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What would Jesus Do
Author: Raine    Date: 11/29/2007 13:23:13

I watched the debate last night, Wine and Nyquil and homeade chocolate chunk cookies make it all do able. I think Jesus would have had some wine and cookies with me.

I woke up this morning with a fresher set of eyes about what happened and what was said, and you know what? Nothing was said! Instead of addressing the serious questions, they all tried to out do each other, almost as if this race was between themselves, and not for the most important position a person can hold. It was mean, contentiuos and lacking substance.

There were some great questions. One of my faves was in regards to the Death penalty, and whether Jesus would have supported it. Huckabee, after not answering the question was cornered by Anderon Cooper about that finally said: Jesus was too smart to run for office".

Fred Thomson will only make a pledge to the American people in regards to taxes. (to which I ask, how about the United States of America there Fred, or maybe a pledge to uphold the Consitution?)They all barely touched on the economic agenda instead either saying that they would cut taxes or make a pledgee to Grover -- no one mentioned the deficit or how we got to 9 trillion dollars in debt. There was no economic plan at all. Everyone wanted to out untax each other.

Immigration was the big topic. HUGE. Some people had answers. Tancredo was happy to be out Tancredo'd. (How nice it must be to see people trying to look even more intolerant than you Tom...) Being a liberal type of person, I was not real fond of too many of them. I heard the word Sanctuary City, a rather new word for me in this lexicon of catch phrases. (perhaps that should be added to the debate drinking games!) And Rudy took a beating for this issue, saying that NYC was not, and that under certain circumstances, which he laid out, undocumented immigrants were reported to the federal government. I don't think the undocumented immigrants of NYC would say they felt any sanctuary under the Giuliani...

When the issue of hiring undocumented immigrants came up, Rudy said Mitt should better vet his employees I got a nice chuckle out of that one. (hello pot, meet Bernie Kettle)

I must say I was rather disgusted by Mitt Romney's response to a wonderful question regarding "Black -on-Black" Crime. And the question was great. A father and a son from Atlanta, Georgia wanted to know what the candidates would do about it because, as the child said 'it feels like the Taliban is right outside my door'. Mitt, he dropped the ball big time, instead saying how nice it was to see a man with his son. We heard nothing from the candidates about what they would do to help the people in THIS country. Mitt's answer was simply to say that we need to stop single parenthood. This was an opening to talk about crime in our nation, as well as the racial tensions that exist. This was a chance to talk about civil rights, a chance to address people of color.

McCain and Romney argued about torture. And I must say McCain came out looking alright. Mitt, well, he would say if Waterboarding is torture, he only said that he would listen to Cofer Black and what his recommendations on torture would be. I was surprised he mentioned Cofer's name at all. But Mitt is glad that Gitmo is still opened and he doesn't want *those* people in OUR justice sytsem. How very constitutional of you Mitt.

The rest was very typical fear mongering and 911™ branding. Ron Paul said he would like to get rid of the department of education, among other things, when asked. Most people wanted to cut SS or over haul, but in all reality no one knew what programs they would cut. (once again no economic plans there) It was brutal, it was mean and it was a rather depressing look at the upcoming election cycle. I found myself missing Bob Dole last night, dammit!

2 important things to note: Fred didn't fall asleep. although he was caught fidgeting. Mitt seems to have dyed his hair again...

Alrighty then..... Fair Coffee and Tea are over at the caffeine bar. Fresh Bagels have been brought in from Murray's in NYC. Donuts are from Tim Horton's today.... I will see you inside.
 

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Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 13:35:49
Rudy is in HOT water. They asked him about this last night and he denied it all... Should be interesting to watch!

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:11:40
:rofl: Neil Boortz. Pride of the south...

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:12:32
The tide is turning?!?!?!

Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:13:47
I found it interesting that Mitt thought Roe V. Wade would be the biggest issue on his agenda.



:star: --------> Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh..........wha wha what?

Comment by BobR on 11/29/2007 14:15:30
FOR EVERYONE NOT ABLE TO LOGIN:



Please click on "Change Password" and set your password again.

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:19:34
I think I am all by myself this morning.

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:21:56
Quote by starling310: I found it interesting that Mitt thought Roe V. Wade would be the biggest issue on his agenda. :star: --------> Uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh..........wha wha what?
You know, they are still trying to make abortion an issue... it cracks me up that Mitt said he was wrong before he was right about the issue. I was for it before I was against it! :rolleyes:

Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:24:52
Good morning everyone.



Who saw the stuff about Guiliani last night on Countdown. They talked about his relationship with certain sheiks who are tied to terrorists through his little firm. Here's the story in the Village Voice.

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:31:31
Quote by livingonli: Good morning everyone. Who saw the stuff about Guiliani last night on Countdown. They talked about his relationship with certain sheiks who are tied to terrorists through his little firm. Here's the story in the Village Voice.
WOWZER! Wayne Barret has always had the goods on Rudy. I hope you are gonna post this one Liv.

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:32:17
Great... 4$ dollars a gallon. snap just like that. I was reading the 3 of 4 pipe fires are now out.

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 14:33:57
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:34:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Good morning everyone.



Who saw the stuff about Guiliani last night on Countdown. They talked about his relationship with certain sheiks who are tied to terrorists through his little firm. Here's the story in the Village Voice.


WOWZER! Wayne Barret has always had the goods on Rudy. I hope you are gonna post this one Liv.


Did you read his book on Rudy and the whole 9-11 crap? Since it did have all the stuff about the radios, the command center in 7 WTC, and how he has been using 9-11 to make a ton of money.

Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:38:28
Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:39:59
Shelagh!

Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:41:18
Hi folks...finally made it in after some password problems.



This one's for Bob:

Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:44:37
Gas across the street is still $2.99 for regular. Hitest is $3.21, and diesel is $3.45



Most of our local product comes from the big Irving refineries in St. John, NB via barge.





Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:44:42
Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.

Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:50:42
I would call Guilani a scumbag.



Mgm with the Dennis Miller joke generator.

Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:54:03
Saying "The Troops" is their Freebird!

Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:54:33
MGM is Chris in Yankton?



NICE!

:clap:

Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:55:56
Momma and I with the mindmeld.

Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:56:29
Exactly....every ? was about guns or abortion.

Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 14:57:36
AthenaHealth in the news!



And a photo of the first cousin:



http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/includes/global2/cms/pph/071128/photos/1103977-l.jpg




I talked to the reporters yesterday too, but they didn't use any of my material in the story.

Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 14:57:46
Quote by starling310: Exactly....every ? was about guns or abortion.


What about trying to lock up/deport all those brown immigants.

Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 14:59:26
You're right Living....Brown people were a hot topic too.

Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy.



:thud:

Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:01:17
Headline News is re-running the Republican debate from last night

:waits for the Mitt/Rudy catfight:

Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:02:57
Morning! :hug:





Yeah I was able to login normal! Good Work!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:04:03
HAd a little internet burp. I hate when that happens.

Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:04:54
Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:07:23
Quote by starling310: You're right Living....Brown people were a hot topic too. Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy. :thud:
that pissed me off to know end!

Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:07:55
Good morning Mala.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:09:29
Heyya Liv and all!

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:11:08
Quote by livingonli: Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.
well at least he got his presidential MEdal of Freedom.... FOR WHAT exactly?

Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:11:20
amoreto

Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:15:27
The 3rd(?) Annual Blogger Joe!!!!!!





BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa)



It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP!



If you would like to participate just...



1) Email me ([email protected]) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.).



2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift.



3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift.



4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24.



5) Enjoy and have fun!



Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:15:40
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.


well at least he got his presidential MEdal of Freedom.... FOR WHAT exactly?




I'm sure he did a heckuva job with something.



Either that, or he has a really wide stance.





Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:17:01
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Headline News is saying Henry Hyde is dead.


well at least he got his presidential MEdal of Freedom.... FOR WHAT exactly?


Probably for trying to impeach Bill Clinton while carrying on his own extra maritial affair. Then again Newt Gingrich could also win for that.

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:18:52
Quote by wickedpam: The 3rd(?) Annual Blogger Joe!!!!!! BLOGGER JOE ( aka Secret Santa) It’s that time of year again, this time I thought we could do a Cross Blog Blogger Joe with our friends at AAP! If you would like to participate just... 1) Email me ([email protected]) by Friday, December 7th, with your Name and the Address were you would like to have something sent. Also include a list of items that you do not wish to receive for reasons of allergies or ethics (i.e. leather, alcohol, etc.). 2) On Monday, December 10th I will draw names and PM or email you back with the Name and Address of the Blogger Joe you are to gift. 3) Shop or create something for your Blogger Joe, but spend no more then $10 on that gift. 4) Send your gift to you Blogger Joe so that they will receive it during the week of December 19th, so we call open them together on either 12/21 or 12/24. 5) Enjoy and have fun!
Ms Mala... Might I suggest that you also make this a spearate Blog entry? It is entirely up to you, but then it would not get lost in rthe shuffle! :peace:

Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:19:08
Re: Blogger Joe...



WP, do you have the power? Why not create a blog entry for this?

Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:20:59
Good Idea you two! I totally forgot I can do that!

Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:21:58
on TRMS...



Why the hell are corporate entities sponsoring the debates?



Anyone?





Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:21:59
The PRess release for Hyde's medal said:
"A veteran, a lawyer, and a public servant, Henry Hyde has served his country with honor and dedication. During his 32-year career in the House of Representatives, he was a powerful defender of life, a leading advocate for a strong national defense, and an unwavering voice for liberty, democracy, and free enterprise around the world. A true gentleman of the House, he advanced his principles without rancor and earned the respect of friends and adversaries alike. The United States honors Henry Hyde for his distinguished record of service to America."
I am sure MRs. Snodgrass would agree....

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:23:28
Tri and myself with the mindmeld... :foil:

Comment by TriSec on 11/29/2007 15:24:21
So when my house catches fire, do I succumb, Branch-Davidian style, or let the firemen in without a warrant?





Comment by starling310 on 11/29/2007 15:28:11
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: You're right Living....Brown people were a hot topic too.

Luckily that Brown kid asking about violence had a nice brown daddy because that is what will make gun violence go down; give everyone a gun and a nice mommy and daddy.



:thud:
that pissed me off to know end!





Oh. Me too! Totally.

And, being the Anal Literal thinker that I am; I was thinking "Hm. I only saw a dad in that video. Could be, he was a single Dad. Is that okay Mitt? As long as it isn't a single Mom, or a *gasp* GAY COUPLE???" : drama sting :

Comment by Raine on 11/29/2007 15:28:16
I think I am gonna go back to sleep after the show. I still feel pretty sick.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/29/2007 15:29:01
Done and Done!



Blogger Joe

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Comment by livingonli on 11/29/2007 15:31:53
Quote by Raine:


It's Wabbit Season.