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On the Right Track to Justice
Author: BobR    Date: 08/28/2009 12:21:28

As we've seen in the past, sometimes justice takes the slow train to its destination. Sometimes it requires enough heat coming from several sources to get up a big enough head of steam to leave the station. With regards to the U.S. involvement in torture, and the previous administration's complicity, that steam is building quickly.

It's pretty much common knowledge now that the CIA Inspector General recently released a heavily redacted report on the CIA's use of torture during the 2001-2003 time period. The report was disturbing enough to prompt Attorney General Holder to task a special prosecutor to investigate further. The first to get snared may likely be Tenet and Mueller, in both cases for perjury and conspiracy. Indictments for those crimes will likely get tongues moving for a plea bargain.

Add to this the revelation that the Bush Administration was using sleep deprivation as recently as 2007:
A year after the Bush administration abandoned its harshest interrogation methods, CIA operatives used severe sleep deprivation tactics against a terror detainee in late 2007, keeping him awake for six straight days with permission from government lawyers.

Interrogators kept the unidentified detainee awake by chaining him to the walls and floor of a cell, according to government officials and memos issued with an internal CIA report. The Obama administration released the internal report this week.

This is all too disturbing to ignore. It certainly hasn't been ignored outside of our borders. There is also pressure coming from the UN's High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay:
The former United Nations war crimes judge, who marks her first year in office next Tuesday, said she has used an "instinctive" blend of quiet diplomacy and public condemnation to highlight violations worldwide.

The U.S. Justice Department named a special prosecutor this week to investigate CIA interrogation techniques used on terrorism suspects after the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States under then-President George W. Bush.

"Whenever people come under the jurisdiction of the United States, the United States has to be seen to be upholding the very high standards that they claim for their own citizens," Pillay told Reuters in her office overlooking Lake Geneva.

Any torture or death inflicted on suspects held by U.S. authorities in places including Bagram detention centre in Afghanistan should be part of this investigation, she said.

Asked whether it should go beyond establishing the criminal liability of CIA interrogators, Pillay replied: "That is international law on accountability -- that you do not stop at the foot soldiers, you go right up to the ultimate authority that is legally responsible."

"And these would include those who devised the policy, those who ordered it," said Pillay, a Tamil from South Africa.

Even if the U.S. stops short of prosecutions, the evidence will be there for international organizations to prosecute their own war crime tribunals. Perhaps they will be talking to Mohammed Jawad, who is suing the U.S. because he was 12 YEARS OLD when he was picked up and held by us for 7 years:
Montalvo, a US military lawyer, maintained Jawad was between 12 and 15 years old when he was detained. The Pentagon says he was 16 or 17 when arrested in Afghanistan on charges of throwing a grenade at a US convoy.

The lawyer said Afghan Defence Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak had pledged to assist Jawad but stressed that does not mean "we will not pursue the US government to assist him in his transition".

Jawad's legal advisors would pursue punitive procedures in the US federal courts but were also pressing for his immediate food and housing expenses to be taken care of, given his lack of education, poor family and widowed mother.
[...]
In a convoluted case, a military judge tossed out most of the evidence against Jawad towards the end of 2008 and a federal prosecutor quit the case, saying the young Afghan's statements had been obtained through torture.


Perhaps I've missed it, but Cheney seems to be strangely quiet lately, I'm guessing that it's starting to dawn on him that - not unlike his policies for Iraq - his preemptive strikes were badly thought out. Will we see prosecutions for Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Tenet, Mueller, Yoo, and Gonzales?

It's possible if the Justice Train doesn't get derailed before it ever leaves the station.

 

57 comments (Latest Comment: 08/28/2009 23:23:36 by livingonli)
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Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 13:24:26
Good Morning everyone!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 13:26:31
Morning

Comment by Scoopster on 08/28/2009 13:35:41
Morning all..



http://i44.tinypic.com/2hgtksl.jpg


Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 13:40:28
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all..



http://i44.tinypic.com/2hgtksl.jpg


Hypnotic!

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 13:43:57
Things that make you go hmmm...



The elder President George Bush will not be attending Sen. Edward Kennedy's funeral.



A spokesman for Bush said Friday that he and his wife, Barbara, decided not to attend Kennedy's funeral after learning their son, former President George W. Bush, would attend.



Jim McGrath says the 85-year-old Bush feels his son's presence would "amply and well represent" the family Saturday.





Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 13:46:10


Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 13:47:34
Quote by Raine:

Things that make you go hmmm...



The elder President George Bush will not be attending Sen. Edward Kennedy's funeral.



A spokesman for Bush said Friday that he and his wife, Barbara, decided not to attend Kennedy's funeral after learning their son, former President George W. Bush, would attend.



Jim McGrath says the 85-year-old Bush feels his son's presence would "amply and well represent" the family Saturday.









I actually find that kinda rude on the former presidents part

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 13:50:55
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Things that make you go hmmm...



The elder President George Bush will not be attending Sen. Edward Kennedy's funeral.



A spokesman for Bush said Friday that he and his wife, Barbara, decided not to attend Kennedy's funeral after learning their son, former President George W. Bush, would attend.



Jim McGrath says the 85-year-old Bush feels his son's presence would "amply and well represent" the family Saturday.









I actually find that kinda rude on the former presidents part
It is rude. Incredibly disrespectful. But I have to wonder if the relations are a bit strained between poppy and Boy blunder.



Comment by Scoopster on 08/28/2009 13:52:16
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Things that make you go hmmm...



The elder President George Bush will not be attending Sen. Edward Kennedy's funeral.



A spokesman for Bush said Friday that he and his wife, Barbara, decided not to attend Kennedy's funeral after learning their son, former President George W. Bush, would attend.



Jim McGrath says the 85-year-old Bush feels his son's presence would "amply and well represent" the family Saturday.





I actually find that kinda rude on the former presidents part


Why the hell should it matter whether or not his son is going? He's a former president as well so he should be in attendance.



That is, of course, ol' HW is in poor health and unable to attend.

Comment by starling310 on 08/28/2009 13:55:08
Me thinks Right Wing Scott doth protest too much.



Comment by starling310 on 08/28/2009 13:59:13
It's kind of strange how all people who kidnap girls and keep them for 18 years, look like this:



http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/101237/thumbs/r-JAYCEE-LEE-DUGARD-mediumvariable.jpg




Cops do racial profiling all the time.

Why not "People who look like this" profiling?

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:00:38
Quote by starling310:

Me thinks Right Wing Scott doth protest too much.



Oh what a bummer we had a short power outage and I missed the loon.



Hello

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:01:39
Quote by starling310:

It's kind of strange how all people who kidnap girls and keep them for 18 years, look like this:



http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/101237/thumbs/r-JAYCEE-LEE-DUGARD-mediumvariable.jpg




Cops do racial profiling all the time.

Why not "People who look like this" profiling?
They give the the heebs.



Comment by starling310 on 08/28/2009 14:04:46
Quote by Raine:



Oh what a bummer we had a short power outage and I missed the loon.



Hello




Hello m'dear.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 14:08:26
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Me thinks Right Wing Scott doth protest too much.



Oh what a bummer we had a short power outage and I missed the loon.



Hello




It was just crazy hateful scott, you didn't miss much

Comment by starling310 on 08/28/2009 14:10:35
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Me thinks Right Wing Scott doth protest too much.



Oh what a bummer we had a short power outage and I missed the loon.



Hello




It was just crazy hateful scott, you didn't miss much




indeed. he is just so inexplicably obsessed with the GAYS!



Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 14:18:02
Hope David Tennet was on that list

Comment by Scoopster on 08/28/2009 14:24:02
Wheeee busy today! End of the month crrrap...

Comment by m-hadley on 08/28/2009 14:25:24
Morning 4Fers

Nice to bump into you on the bloggie this morning Star-shine. How's it going? Are you in another theater production? Wish I could come out and see you live and in-person. Happee Fridee everybodee!

Cheers,

mfaye &

Comment by Scoopster on 08/28/2009 14:26:37
But.. what the... hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



How can ANYONE be this fucking stupid.

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:29:49
I follow her on Twitter -- Lauren is HILARIOUS!

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:33:01
Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 14:35:00






Finally he got his ass off the fence and made a fist.

Comment by AuntAzalea on 08/28/2009 14:36:59
Thanks for the post Bob R - it is so true suddenly we hear from Cheney not so much. I hope we do see Bush, Cheney and gang in striped pajamas soon.

Happy Fridee everyone.

At 85 I will give Papa Bush a break and figure he may not be feeling well enough, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they just don't want to be near "blunder boy" (love that).

Comment by Scoopster on 08/28/2009 14:37:27
http://i29.tinypic.com/2czamo1.jpg




I'm with this guy.. let's go back to bed!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 14:42:33
Scoop that is frickin' adorable!

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:43:42
Quote by Scoopster:

But.. what the... hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



How can ANYONE be this fucking stupid.








Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:45:21
Quote by AuntAzalea:

Thanks for the post Bob R - it is so true suddenly we hear from Cheney not so much. I hope we do see Bush, Cheney and gang in striped pajamas soon.

Happy Fridee everyone.

At 85 I will give Papa Bush a break and figure he may not be feeling well enough, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they just don't want to be near "blunder boy" (love that).
Good morning auntie!







Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:46:27
Scoop wins the way cute award for the day.

Comment by m-hadley on 08/28/2009 14:52:10
Quote by Scoopster:

http://i29.tinypic.com/2czamo1.jpg




I'm with this guy.. let's go back to bed!




Scoop, This is adorable and captures exactly how I feel today. Thanks mucho !!!



Cheers,

mfaye &

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 14:58:34
I heard this guy on Randi --

Comment by livingonli on 08/28/2009 15:27:57
Good morning everyone.



Like the cat there.

Comment by livingonli on 08/28/2009 15:30:59
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Me thinks Right Wing Scott doth protest too much.



Oh what a bummer we had a short power outage and I missed the loon.



Hello




It was just crazy hateful scott, you didn't miss much




indeed. he is just so inexplicably obsessed with the GAYS!



Not to mention the Jews. I don't want to know what he does on Hitler's birthday.

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 15:32:14
Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 15:55:17
Comment by livingonli on 08/28/2009 16:03:53


And the right wing trolls who respond are such idiots.

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 16:34:58
Comment by wickedpam on 08/28/2009 16:37:23






He's a coward.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/28/2009 17:01:17
Quote by wickedpam:







He's a coward.




I guess it's the same twisted Rethug logic that allows them to draw up the Clear Skies Initiative.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/28/2009 17:44:34
Good morning, bloggers! Excellent post, BobR!



I am busy getting ready to take Sarge to fill in for Jeff Farias on his morning show and later for the afternoon show. So, feel free to call in to the afternoon show which you can stream at The Jeff Farias Show or on Roots Up Radio.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/28/2009 17:51:09
I swear.. I don't know if these folks in the middle on the health care debate are confused or just plain lazy when it comes to doing research.

Comment by livingonli on 08/28/2009 18:39:23
Time to head off to the salt mine and watch the Liberty lose again.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/28/2009 19:05:32
Oh frabjous day! I have wireless internets again! ALL HAIL SEAN THE COMCAST DUDE! He stuck with the problem until it was fixed!

Comment by Scoopster on 08/28/2009 19:09:37
Wooohoooo Mondo's back! And just in time, because...



IT'S FRIDEEEEEE YAH BASTIDS!!!











Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 19:39:07
Quote by Scoopster:

Wooohoooo Mondo's back! And just in time, because...



IT'S FRIDEEEEEE YAH BASTIDS!!!

















Now I am off to bottle a most AWESOME double oatmeal stout.



Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 20:10:35
Ok -- I love this dude on twitter: http://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/28/2009 20:46:23
Quote by starling310:

It's kind of strange how all people who kidnap girls and keep them for 18 years, look like this:



http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/101237/thumbs/r-JAYCEE-LEE-DUGARD-mediumvariable.jpg




Cops do racial profiling all the time.

Why not "People who look like this" profiling?




:scans blog: Creepy Mofo profiling, well hm Mark Sanford...John Bhoener...Charlie Crist...

Comment by Raine on 08/28/2009 20:46:28