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Author: TriSec    Date: 10/13/2009 10:45:43

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,400th day in Iraq.

We'll do things a little differently this morning.

Do you think President Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize?

Matthew Rothschild of "The Progressive" doesn't think so.


I’m sorry, there’s a lot I admire about Barack Obama, but he doesn’t deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.

Not while he’s waging a war in Afghanistan, which he’s already escalated, and may be about to escalate again.

Not while he still hasn’t pulled U.S. troops out of Iraq, nor while he’s going to keep tens of thousands of private military contractors there indefinitely.

Not while he endorses Bush’s heinous policy of “extraordinary renditions.”

Not while asserts the right to indefinitely detain people without habeas corpus rights at Bagram Air Base.

Not while he fails to successfully prod Israel to give up the Occupied Territories.

And not while he keeps our nuclear arsenal on hair-trigger alert.

The Nobel committee actually praised him for his position on nuclear weapons, but he hasn’t taken this first, crucial step toward making the world a safer place.

The Nobel committee rewarded Obama’s rhetoric.

I love Obama’s rhetoric, too.

I loved his speech on the nuclear issue.

I loved his speech where he unambiguously renounced torture.

I loved his speech in Cairo, which marked a huge break from George Bush, by showing respect to the Muslim world and owning up to some of the past crimes of U.S. foreign policy.

And I loved his speech at the Summit of the Americas, which promised a noninterventionist approach to this hemisphere. That would be quite a departure from 100 years of U.S. imperial policy.

But he doesn’t deserve the Nobel Peace Prize just because he isn’t George Bush.

And he doesn’t deserve the Nobel Peace Prize just on the basis of rhetoric.

No, the Nobel Peace Prize should reward a career of bold peace activism.

And, to say the least, the jury is still out on Obama on that one.




That's not all. A sampling of some headlines from Antiwar.com shows that there's plenty more to be done.

US still not planning major Iraq troop cuts

Pakistan kills 15 in "Taliban-Free" area

North Korea fires 5 short-range missiles


Perhaps the Nobel Prize Committee was issuing a slap at former President George Bush. While I'll agree that Mr. Bush was quite possibly the worst 'diplomat' of them all, and did virtually nothing to foster any type of peace at all, giving the Prize to Mr. Obama simply because he isn't George Bush is wrong. The President, perhaps, should not have accepted.


How we laughed when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel peace prize. It was like giving a man a gong for helping to put out a fire that he himself had been stoking up.

It was almost as funny as the news in 2007 that Tony Blair had been appointed a special peace envoy to the Middle East — yes, the Middle East — on behalf not just of the United States and Russia but also of the United Nations and the European Union. For those who enjoy gallows humour, the regular appointment of mass murderers and kleptocrats to the UN’s human rights commission is also quite amusing.

How do all these circles get squared? What makes these international bigwigs put together all these preposterous deals? One thing is reasonably clear, through the fog of war and diplomacy, and it is that there is nothing reliably noble about the Nobel prize. Many of the people who ought to have won it didn’t. Several who certainly shouldn’t have won it did, such as Yasser Arafat and Le Duc Tho of communist North Vietnam.

So I should not have been surprised to hear that Barack Obama has been offered the prize. What does surprise and sadden me is that he has accepted it. Like millions of other people, I admire Obama. I, too, was caught up in the general elation that a country with a shameful history of racism, my father’s country, could find a clever, well qualified, eloquent and charismatic candidate who was also black and then vote him into the White House. I thought then, and I still hope, that he may achieve great things.

However, the glaringly obvious point is that Obama hasn’t achieved anything very much yet. As his Texan predecessor might have said, so far he has been all hat and no cattle. That is hardly surprising as he has been in office for less than 10 months, but it is both foolish and wrong of him to accept a prize for something he has not achieved. Perhaps he wanted it because two eminent fellow Democrats, Al Gore and Jimmy Carter, have got one too.

As an American commentator said, it is like accepting an Oscar now for being likely to make an Oscar-winning movie next year. It casts great doubt on Obama’s judgment and integrity — can’t he see the Nobel nonsense for what it is? — and gives comfort to his critics. It makes this apparently decent man complicit in the sentimental ruthlessness and meaningless verbiage of most international bodies.

But perhaps, for all Obama’s appearance of being better than them, he is really one of them, not one of us.

It is anyone’s guess what the Nobel peace prize people are really up to. If it is odd to give out the prize before the winner has reached the goal, it is odder still to nominate him when he has barely crossed the starting line: the committee’s nominations for the Nobel peace prize this year had to be sent in by February 1, only 12 days after Obama had become president. Obama did almost nothing of any importance during those 12 days at the tail end of the Nobel nomination period.

This is very Alice in Wonderland — all prizes to be declared before the start. It is also the way of the wicked old world and for that reason it is something a good man should be seen to avoid. Can it be that Obama is already intoxicated with the exuberance of his own celebrity? For that is all he is so far — a well-meaning super-celebrity.

The Nobel people claim they are trying to promote what Obama stands for; they want to endorse his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy” and to encourage people to “go along with his concept of zero nuclear power”. They also claim there’s nothing new about awarding the prize for good intentions; that’s why Willy Brandt got it and Mikhail Gorbachev.

One of their number said the committee wanted to encourage Obama, another said his win would help Africa. One can only feel grateful that they did not offer it to encourage Tony Blair for his high-flown rhetoric in his early days about healing the scar that is Africa and generally speaking about saving the world.



As for us here at "Ask a Vet", I'll now enumerate the reasons why President Obama should not have won.

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4348
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4209
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3885
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3489
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 120

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 325
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 871
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 581
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,395
Journalists - Iraq: 335
Academics Killed - Iraq: 431


 

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Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/13/2009 11:45:33
Morning all.



Thanks for all the hugs yesterday. Good news on the kitty front. Lucky had a urinary blockage that's freed up now. He had crystals in his urine, so it looks like a diet change is in the offing for the old boy. We should have him home tonight, we're getting the "private" room ready (wil probably need to keep him away from Cleo for a few days). If we had waited until morning there was a good chance he wouldn't be with us now.....

Comment by wickedpam on 10/13/2009 12:30:11
Morning



Glad to hear about Lucky, Rabbit!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/13/2009 12:41:57
Thanks, Mala

Comment by wickedpam on 10/13/2009 13:09:22
REBECCA!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/13/2009 13:23:13
Mornin' all.. I put on my glasses this morning only to feel them shifting in a very strange direction.. that could only mean that they're about to break and I need new frames.



No big deal though, they had a good three year run. The least I could expect for having gotten expensive flexible frames.

Comment by Random on 10/13/2009 13:43:56
hm...well.

Comment by m-hadley on 10/13/2009 13:51:51
Hiya 4Fers

I just spoke to our dear Rebekah nee Baker now Taylor and she is indeed hitched. The lucky young man is her roommate and her best friend. They drove to Vegas on a whim, stayed at the Mandalay and were wed in one of Vegas's many chapels. That's all I've got so far. My heart is broken, needless to say, but I am happy for her and she really does sound thrilled Guess I'm gonna get drunk tonight

Laters,

mfaye

Comment by Scoopster on 10/13/2009 13:56:45
Ack.. the frames are bending in towards my face! It feels like I'm friggin' crosseyed!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/13/2009 13:57:48
Am I the only one who is truly disliking the annoying-ness of Lady Gaga?

Comment by Random on 10/13/2009 14:05:50
Quote by wickedpam:

Am I the only one who is truly disliking the annoying-ness of Lady Gaga?


depends on what you are in particular refering to. her music or her in general?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/13/2009 14:31:28
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Am I the only one who is truly disliking the annoying-ness of Lady Gaga?


depends on what you are in particular refering to. her music or her in general?






both - she has just become the essence of annoying to me

Comment by Scoopster on 10/13/2009 14:39:38
aaaaaand there they go! Split right down the middle.

Comment by Random on 10/13/2009 14:46:36
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Am I the only one who is truly disliking the annoying-ness of Lady Gaga?


depends on what you are in particular refering to. her music or her in general?






both - she has just become the essence of annoying to me


ahh...a new Britney Spears.



Well...I feel neither way about her, just ignoring pop culture.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/13/2009 15:28:22
Yeah, I saw the "change in status" on Rebeka's Facebook page when she was on vacation. Great for her.



Complications on the cat front, they want to keep Lucky another day to make sure his kidneys are functioning OK. They're not that worried though. My wife says he looks much better.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/13/2009 15:30:07
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Morning all.



Thanks for all the hugs yesterday. Good news on the kitty front. Lucky had a urinary blockage that's freed up now. He had crystals in his urine, so it looks like a diet change is in the offing for the old boy. We should have him home tonight, we're getting the "private" room ready (wil probably need to keep him away from Cleo for a few days). If we had waited until morning there was a good chance he wouldn't be with us now.....






Morning all. Good news about kitteh, Trojan. Hill's Science Diet C/D?

Comment by livingonli on 10/13/2009 15:31:37
Good morning everyone.



A day off and I felt like sleeping in especially with the hours that I put in this weekend.



:sleeping:

Comment by livingonli on 10/13/2009 15:33:01
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Yeah, I saw the "change in status" on Rebeka's Facebook page when she was on vacation. Great for her.



Complications on the cat front, they want to keep Lucky another day to make sure his kidneys are functioning OK. They're not that worried though. My wife says he looks much better.


Hope so. At least that's good news about Lucky.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/13/2009 15:38:55
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Morning all.



Thanks for all the hugs yesterday. Good news on the kitty front. Lucky had a urinary blockage that's freed up now. He had crystals in his urine, so it looks like a diet change is in the offing for the old boy. We should have him home tonight, we're getting the "private" room ready (wil probably need to keep him away from Cleo for a few days). If we had waited until morning there was a good chance he wouldn't be with us now.....






Morning all. Good news about kitteh, Trojan. Hill's Science Diet C/D?




Not sure yet, gotta get the little bugger home first. Hopefully it's something that our female cat can eat, because I'd hate to have to change their feeding habits too much. They don't get the concept of "her food/his food".



He needs to lose a bit of weight, too.



Comment by livingonli on 10/13/2009 15:44:24
Mama's in New York and we still only get an hour on local radio.

Comment by TriSec on 10/13/2009 15:49:59
Howdy, folks. Jest passin' through.



Closing tonight....heading for the store at 2. The "Big Bean" ( CEO Chris McCormick) is scheduled to visit our humble retail shop today....I hope I get a chance to meet him, since it's not clear what time he may come by. Dedham and Mansfield are also on his agenda today.



In any case...





Comment by livingonli on 10/13/2009 15:53:35
Have a fun day, Tri.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/13/2009 16:00:32
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Morning all.



Thanks for all the hugs yesterday. Good news on the kitty front. Lucky had a urinary blockage that's freed up now. He had crystals in his urine, so it looks like a diet change is in the offing for the old boy. We should have him home tonight, we're getting the "private" room ready (wil probably need to keep him away from Cleo for a few days). If we had waited until morning there was a good chance he wouldn't be with us now.....






Morning all. Good news about kitteh, Trojan. Hill's Science Diet C/D?




Not sure yet, gotta get the little bugger home first. Hopefully it's something that our female cat can eat, because I'd hate to have to change their feeding habits too much. They don't get the concept of "her food/his food".



He needs to lose a bit of weight, too.





If it is something like C/d both of them can eat it. I've been feeding the fellas and girls the same thing for years. They love it. Once you get over the sticker shock of the price per bag/flat of cans so will you, since there will be no more urinary issues.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/13/2009 16:03:59
Comment by Scoopster on 10/13/2009 16:07:18


It's just not enough. This idiot needs to get hit with fines in the millions to drain her well-funded backers.

Comment by starling310 on 10/13/2009 16:41:46
Rebekah married a man?!



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/13/2009 16:43:03
Comment by wickedpam on 10/13/2009 16:47:25
You guys wanna freep a poll?



scroll down a little to



Should the NFL allow Rush to own a team?

Comment by Scoopster on 10/13/2009 16:57:14
Quote by wickedpam:

You guys wanna freep a poll?



scroll down a little to



Should the NFL allow Rush to own a team?


Done! Only 146 votes with mine so far, should be easy to push.

Comment by Random on 10/13/2009 20:39:02
boo

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/14/2009 02:50:20
Comment by BobR on 10/14/2009 04:23:03
back at home after a LONG day of travelling.



I disagree that Obama should have turned it down. He's been pushing for peace and diplomacy around the world since before he was president. Some people think it's premature, but it's what you do, not what you manage to accomplish that the basis of the award...