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Let the problem solve the problem!
Author: Raine    Date: 10/26/2009 12:47:56

Amid the chaos of our crappy economy it might be easy to forget that there are still thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of homes that are still empty due to the mortgage crisis. Reuters reported that Detroit tried to auction off "9,000 homes and lots in various states of abandonment and decay from the tidy owner-occupied to the burned-out shell claimed by squatters." Only 1/5 of them sold. The starting bid was $500.

Location, they say, is everything, and a town like Detroit, devastated by Auto industry layoffs, is no exception. Even one house left empty in a neighborhood drives down prices, but 9000 in a city? That would fill up Central Park. Detroit - like other cities - has chosen to look at these empty homes and lots as a potential source of revenue.

The biggest problem with this situation, is that there are people expecting to make money off this total disaster area. The housing crash in this nation is a disaster of Katrina-like proportions. Instead of nature, it was caused by greed and unregulated capitalism. City and state governments trying to solve the problem with the same thing that caused the disaster seems not only counterproductive, but insane.

I have long wondered why, when a home is foreclosed, the bank that reclaims the mortgage is not held responsible for it's upkeep. Aren't they the ones taking it back? Doesn't that make it their investment as well? At what point do the people who helped create this crisis become responsible for it? Cities like Detroit are trying to replenish the tax revenue they lost from the housing crash -- shouldn't banks bear some of that responsibility? They are making money, and they still own these houses; they are not paying taxes on those houses, and they are not maintaining those houses -- driving the values down.

Maybe that is what the banks and investors wanted all along.
Many potential homeowners that Detroit desperately needs said they felt penalized by the auction process.

They mostly found themselves outbid by deeper-pocketed investors from California and New York who were in a race to claim the auction book's relatively few livable properties.

Dozens of potential bidders, mostly local residents, were turned away on the first day of the auction by deputies after they failed to meet the morning deadline for registration.

Ross Wallace, a lieutenant in the U.S. Army, turned in his check for $500 and waited on the auction floor in full dress uniform for a chance to buy a Detroit house on the cheap.

Wallace, 27, said he did not want to leave his fiancée and two children with a mortgage before shipping out to Iraq later this year.

"I still have student loans and I'm trying to be responsible. I don't want to leave debt," he said.
Wallace waited for the auction to roll around to Detroit's Boston-Edison district, a once stately area that was home to boxing legend Joe Louis and Motown founder Berry Gordy.

But he was quickly outbid. An unidentified investor at the front of the room who had scooped up several dozen properties took the home Wallace wanted for about $15,000.

"Why am I competing against a bank?" he said later. "It would be common sense to have a separate process for people who want to move back to the city or it's going to stay empty."
A soldier can't even get a home for his family and yet investors can blind bid from California. Detroit and other cities need to start taking care of their own communities by allowing locals to buy these properties. Capitalism is not going to save this city and others like it. To expect the very people who caused this problem to come in, purchase these properties and pay off the $300 million budget deficit is irresponsible and foolish. Those houses are being bought to sit there empty and in the same state if disrepair, until the very people who drove the market down decide that Detroit is worthy again of their money. In the meantime, the city is still paying for the cost of 'cutting the weeds and responding to fire calls for thousands more abandoned lots.'

It's a scam -- and Detroit has fallen for it.

I don't have a lot of experience with rebuilding a community or economics, but there seems to be a few smart things the city could do here. Perhaps by cutting red tape and letting local residents have priority to these home may make for an easier transition -- the properties would be occupied. Let that be a requirement. Allow non-profits to buy these houses,and resell them to low income families. How about partnering with a land trust group? Then tear down the houses that are lost, and make a park. In the meantime, the families that do move in can keep what little money they have in their own communities. There is great potential here, and it isn't going to happen overnight, but it is better to include actual residents into the process, instead of bending to a million dollar investor in a state thousands of miles away.

There are no easy answers, but allowing real estate speculation seems to me to be the wrong one. You simply don't solve a problem with what caused the problem in the first place.

&
Raine

 

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Comment by BobR on 10/26/2009 13:04:03
So the banks are buying and selling the properties from/to each other? That makes a lot of sense :rolleyes2:



The city needs to fine the owners (banks) for not keeping them in livable condition, for not mowing the grass, etc. THEN see how quick they are to play this game...

Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 13:07:25
Quote by BobR:

So the banks are buying and selling the properties from/to each other? That makes a lot of sense



The city needs to fine the owners (banks) for not keeping them in livable condition, for not mowing the grass, etc. THEN see how quick they are to play this game...




The only people who suffer are the residents of the city-- It's so infuriating.



Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 13:12:00
Happy Monday everyone!

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/26/2009 13:12:27
Great post!



Morning all.

Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 13:24:01
gmorning ms jones!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/26/2009 13:29:40
Morning



I can tell you that in our HOA we do hold the bank responsible for the upkeep of the property and for the most part they have been doing it. If they don't we take care of it through some volunteer services of a local church and our HOA and then bill the home.



And if anyone's interested here are some pictures of our first combined community Fall Fest

Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 13:47:30
Quote by wickedpam:

Morning



I can tell you that in our HOA we do hold the bank responsible for the upkeep of the property and for the most part they have been doing it. If they don't we take care of it through some volunteer services of a local church and our HOA and then bill the home.



And if anyone's interested here are some pictures of our first combined community Fall Fest
Those are great pictures! What a nice thing for the kids.



Comment by velveeta jones on 10/26/2009 14:00:08
Quote by wickedpam:

Morning



I can tell you that in our HOA we do hold the bank responsible for the upkeep of the property and for the most part they have been doing it. If they don't we take care of it through some volunteer services of a local church and our HOA and then bill the home.



And if anyone's interested here are some pictures of our first combined community Fall Fest




Looks like FUN!!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 14:14:34
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee!



This doesn't surprise me.. Then again, they'll just replace her with some twit who will do the bidding of Roger Ailes.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/26/2009 14:15:23
We're gonna expand on it next year too so it includes people who don't have kids. We had to cancel our haunted trail for lack of volunteers and the fact that we were exhausted by 5pm yesterday and could barely move. We are planning to do it next year though

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/26/2009 14:21:03
Quote by Scoopster:

Mornin' all & Happy Mondee!



This doesn't surprise me.. Then again, they'll just replace her with some twit who will do the bidding of Roger Ailes.


Well that might have been their one token person with ethics! Guess there is no one left at Faux "News".

Comment by TriSec on 10/26/2009 14:26:43
Ya know, if a house is vacant for 6 months, the city ought to take the property by eminent domain and drive a bulldozer through it, then plant trees.



When the economy gets better, people can buy the house lots back from the city and rebuild.





Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 14:30:16
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Scoopster:

Mornin' all & Happy Mondee!



This doesn't surprise me.. Then again, they'll just replace her with some twit who will do the bidding of Roger Ailes.


Well that might have been their one token person with ethics! Guess there is no one left at Faux "News".


The only obvious one I can think of who's left is Shep Smith... but didn't they give his time slot to the Vaporub Tear Jerk?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/26/2009 14:35:20
Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 15:00:24
Quote by wickedpam:

Raine


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Comment by BobR on 10/26/2009 15:04:50
Comment by TriSec on 10/26/2009 15:24:35
I've been listening to the scanner most of the morning....there's a bit of a manhunt going on in neighboring Belmont (MA).



Apparently, a 16-year-old was po'd at his parents and decided to run away.



They think he might be hiding out in an Audubon sanctuary; there are dogs and now a helo involved in the search.





Comment by TriSec on 10/26/2009 16:20:00
I feel like blowin'. I'm going downstairs to practice a bit.



Haven't touched the horn in a while, but I just ordered a repair kit so I can fix some known issues. Getting ready for some holiday tunes!



[ducks incoming bricks and tomatoes]





Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 16:38:04
Brewser is now tube free!!!!!


Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 16:56:48
Quote by Raine:

Brewser is now tube free!!!!!




Comment by wickedpam on 10/26/2009 16:58:09
Quote by Raine:

Brewser is now tube free!!!!!






Yeah Brewser!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 17:07:36
Watched Milk last night.. it's made me want to go do some research on this Anita Bryant character. Figured she'd be dead by now, but nope she's done what all gay-hating morons do and open her own ministry. Apparently she's been bankrupted several times over, but has had her fancy lifestyle and funding for her ministry "gifted" by several "friends" of her and her husband..

Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 17:44:24
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Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 18:15:13
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Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 18:17:41
Comment by livingonli on 10/26/2009 18:47:02
Hi everyone.



I was up this morning but I had to get gas, drive back to the old town and see my doctor and get anti-freeze for the old jalopy and then shower. Now I have a little down time before work. I gained two numbers but my blood sugar numbers are much numbers since I haven't been having the lows and other than a few spikes from indulging I haven't had the highs either.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/26/2009 19:33:29
Comment by TriSec on 10/26/2009 19:39:41
Alrighty gang....heading out for the evening.



I'm wearing a brace tonight, let's see how far my back goes before it gives up. (And yes, I'll be glad to have a desk job again next week. I love the store, but my back sure doesn't.)





Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 19:48:55
Mala -- are you here?can you tell me who is the cable internet service providers in your neck of the woods?



we have Comcast right now for both...

Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 19:49:30
Quote by TriSec:

Alrighty gang....heading out for the evening.



I'm wearing a brace tonight, let's see how far my back goes before it gives up. (And yes, I'll be glad to have a desk job again next week. I love the store, but my back sure doesn't.)



have a great night Tri!



Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 19:50:49
Quote by Scoopster:

Here we go again..


I posted this on FB a few days ago -- I am still wondering how it isn't illegal to impersonate or intimate that you are a federal worker or office.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/26/2009 19:55:06
Quote by Raine:

Mala -- are you here?can you tell me who is the cable internet service providers in your neck of the woods?



we have Comcast right now for both...




My neck of the woods? Manassas? Cable is Comcast - actually I think most of this area is either Comcast or Cox depends on the county.



But Verizon is everywhere and there's also Dish and Direct.

Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 20:07:54
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Mala -- are you here?can you tell me who is the cable internet service providers in your neck of the woods?



we have Comcast right now for both...




My neck of the woods? Manassas? Cable is Comcast - actually I think most of this area is either Comcast or Cox depends on the county.



But Verizon is everywhere and there's also Dish and Direct.
ok I am kinda hoping it is comcast-- then I can just transfer the bill to the new address.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/26/2009 20:10:41
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Mala -- are you here?can you tell me who is the cable internet service providers in your neck of the woods?



we have Comcast right now for both...




My neck of the woods? Manassas? Cable is Comcast - actually I think most of this area is either Comcast or Cox depends on the county.



But Verizon is everywhere and there's also Dish and Direct.
ok I am kinda hoping it is comcast-- then I can just transfer the bill to the new address.







that would definatly be easier then setting up new service!

Comment by livingonli on 10/26/2009 20:46:58
Comcast has bought up most of the systems in the DC area. I think there are just the parts of Fairfax County and Fredericksburg that have Cox.





If I was moving to DC, I would probably go with Verizon because talks about how Comcast sucks.

Comment by Raine on 10/26/2009 20:52:30
Quote by livingonli:

Comcast has bought up most of the systems in the DC area. I think there are just the parts of Fairfax County and Fredericksburg that have Cox.





If I was moving to DC, I would probably go with Verizon because talks about how Comcast sucks.
I really have not had a problem with them personally. If I can transfer my service without having to repay a deposit, I will stick with them.



I would really rather not have to change my email address either.



Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/26/2009 21:29:11
Not a fun day at work today.



It doesn't really smell any better than it did Thursday, there's a definite plasticky smell. Thought I was going to get away from it when I went out to the Fortress of Solitude, but they're in the process of removing all the drywall inside to fix a mold problem. So there's no room to move around inside. Who knows how long THAT will take to finish.



At least when I got home there was a little box waiting for me with the parts I ordered for my antique TV repair project. So I feel a bit better.



Got really sick to my stomach all day Saturday, and still feel a bit ugh, so I'm lying down to rest a bit and Lucky is right by my side. He must understand and is returning the love. Buddy was that way too when he had some major dental surgery and I spent a couple of days alone with him in our "guest room" while he recovered. I never heard a cat purr so loud. But after that, he never let me out of his sight and he always wanted to curl up with me.

Comment by livingonli on 10/26/2009 22:01:39
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Comcast has bought up most of the systems in the DC area. I think there are just the parts of Fairfax County and Fredericksburg that have Cox.





If I was moving to DC, I would probably go with Verizon because talks about how Comcast sucks.
I really have not had a problem with them personally. If I can transfer my service without having to repay a deposit, I will stick with them.



I would really rather not have to change my email address either.



That's understandable since I have my Optimum Online e-mail address which I do the bulk of my activity on. I just got my confirm that I finally am getting my cable installed on Wednesday. My housemate currently has Verizon but she's complaining about the billing so she's willing to switch over. And I do get the employee benefit the only thing that Cablevision sucks about not carrying certain channels like BBC America and NFL Network (and I still would like WGN), but Verizon can't carry MSNBC in our area becase Cablevision cut an exclusive deal with them. In all other areas, MSNBC is on Verizion or AT&T but not where they compete with Cablevision.