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Not really the same old same old.
Author: Raine    Date: 11/12/2009 15:55:03

Last night on Rachel Maddow, we heard some breaking news:

Obama wants his war options changed
President Barack Obama does not plan to accept any of the Afghanistan war options presented by his national security team, pushing instead for revisions to clarify how and when U.S. troops would turn over responsibility to the Afghan government, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

That stance comes in the midst of forceful reservations about a possible troop buildup from the U.S. ambassador in Afghanistan, Karl Eikenberry, according to a second top administration official.

In strongly worded classified cables to Washington, Eikenberry said he had misgivings about sending in new troops while there are still so many questions about the leadership of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.
Obama is still close to announcing his revamped war strategy — most likely shortly after he returns from a trip to Asia that ends on Nov. 19.
What is most interesting about this is that it directly contradicts a report earlier this week from CBS news who reported that the President was sending 40,000 new troops to Afghanistan. Specifically, it was General Stanley McChrystal who was alleged to to have asked for these troops. When I heard about about McChrystal's request, as reported by CBS, I held out judgement. I was dismayed --but I held out before judgement. It wasn't easy. We have already increased troop level there and 40 thousand is a terribly high number -- I want to know what we are doing at this point.

I was delighted to hear this news last night, not because it means an end to this theater, but because we have a President that is taking all of this quite seriously. What I find curious tho is why CBS ran that story. There are rumors that there is an internal struggle between the pentagon and the White house -- if that is the case then this was a power play -- one that the White House won. That is as it should be. Yesterday Political Wire reported that Colin Powell advised the President to take his time:
"This is a very difficult one for him. And it isn't just a one-time decision. This is the decision that will have consequences for the better part of his administration. So Mr. President, don't get pushed by the left to do nothing; don't get pushed by the right to do everything. You take your time and you figure it out. You're the commander-in-chief and this is what you were elected for."
We are at a critical moment regarding Afghanistan. Where we go now is anyones guess, but I believe that we have a leader who is willing to take his time and make the best possible decision for a terrible terrible situation. It is a bright contrast to the administration that sent us there with no plan whatsoever. We have been calling this the forgotten war for a good many years -- with good reason.

I agree with my friend Karoli when she states her dilemma. I highly recommend the whole post be read as this is just the last portion:
About Afghanistan…
[...]
Leaving Afghanistan means leaving a country with a weak government which will likely topple just as it has in the past. Only this time, a government overthrow could easily place the Taliban back in power like a bacteria that has mutated from abortive antibiotic treatment. It comes back stronger and harder to eradicate the second time around, with the possibility of a more lethal result.

Leaving Afghanistan means sanctioning a thriving illegal opium market as the primary economic driver in their country.

Leaving Afghanistan means leaving men, women and children in extreme poverty with no real defense against those who exploit them.

Leaving Afghanistan means abandoning all hope of the possibility of helping to build a nation that can actually survive the regional and internal conflicts that have torn it apart in the past.

Leaving Afghanistan means breaking promises we made when we sent our troops there.

I’m sure my fellow progressives and Democrats will demand my card at the door for the conflict I’m feeling over this. From everything I read, their answer is to get out and stay out, that it’s a losing proposition and we’re better off cutting our losses and moving on.

The problem I have? Accepting the idea that while it’s fine to pay verbal service to the poverty and genocide in the world, we’re unwilling to make a sacrifice to actually help end it. Our fight in Afghanistan doesn’t seem to be a fight for domination of their country, but for stabilization and a pathway to a self-sufficient, self-governing Afghan state.

Mostly, though, I just have questions and more questions, with very little in the way of an absolute sense of what the best way to proceed really is.
I could be an eternal optimist, but I believe that the President is asking those very same things. If that means I have to turn in my progressive card at the door too, then please tell me.

and
Raine


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 11/12/2009 14:18:13
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 11/12/2009 14:52:52
*wanders around straightening the blog manor up*

Comment by Scoopster on 11/12/2009 15:13:04
Mornin' all.. ok enough of that back to bed

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 15:14:23
zOMG -- Mala thank you for the stub.



I wrote the bloggie last night -- and then totally overslept this morning. my goodness -- I hate packing up this house. Today I woke up with A VERY SOUR TUMMY. :(

Comment by wickedpam on 11/12/2009 15:28:39
No prob - Know ya'll have a lot to juggle right now



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~positive feel better vibies your way ~~~~~~~~~~~

Comment by Scoopster on 11/12/2009 15:32:21
Comment by Scoopster on 11/12/2009 15:35:59
Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 15:40:10
I don't even know if I should bother with a blog today. :(

Comment by wickedpam on 11/12/2009 15:45:29
If your not feeling well, don't worry about it - just use it for tomorrow

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 16:02:31
New blog is up! I managed to find some of what I wrote last night.

Comment by livingonli on 11/12/2009 16:16:40
Good morning everyone. Looks like I missed the blog struggle last night.



Kittie's been laying beside me and now she's cleaning herself.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/12/2009 16:20:24
There was a stuggle on the blog?

Comment by livingonli on 11/12/2009 16:32:40
Quote by wickedpam:

There was a stuggle on the blog?


I guess we could just call it the struggle to get something posted. Nothing major like that. I guess preparing the move to DC is keeping Raine so busy.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/12/2009 16:36:31
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

There was a stuggle on the blog?


I guess we could just call it the struggle to get something posted. Nothing major like that. I guess preparing the move to DC is keeping Raine so busy.








aaahhhh



Yeah, moving from one state to another can be rather time consuming

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 16:42:32
what? Did Momma just say she is going to live part time in NY?

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 16:43:22
Quote by wickedpam:

There was a stuggle on the blog?




Comment by starling310 on 11/12/2009 16:50:09
Quote by Raine:

what? Did Momma just say she is going to live part time in NY?




I heard that TOO!

I was gonna ask you guys if I had missed something.

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 16:50:13
Comment by wickedpam on 11/12/2009 16:51:02
Quote by Raine:

what? Did Momma just say she is going to live part time in NY?






I thought she said her nephew lived PT in NY

Comment by livingonli on 11/12/2009 16:55:29
Quote by Raine:

what? Did Momma just say she is going to live part time in NY?


I couldn't tell. It's hard when trying to listen to Momma on a crappy AM station which is now cutting out while my housemate vacuums.

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 17:36:17
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

what? Did Momma just say she is going to live part time in NY?




I heard that TOO!

I was gonna ask you guys if I had missed something.
I could swear she said that she and her nephew would be in NY part time.



Comment by TriSec on 11/12/2009 17:36:45
Howdy folks!



Yes, I'm blogging from work today.



Company actually does a cool thing....they know they aren't going to control internet access entirely, so we all go to lunch at the same time. During the prescribed lunch hour, it's pretty much anything goes online.



Then after lunch, we all go back to work until the end of the day.



In any case, just passing through. I can't stream, so no Momma for me anymore. But I am listening to Keith and Rachel again!







Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 18:44:47
Hi Tri! Nice to see you!!!

Comment by BobR on 11/12/2009 18:51:25
I had 4 hrs of intensive training this morning. This afternoon, I'll be trying to put it into use, sorting out documents, verifying my remote connections work, etc.



While I'm enjoying being back at work and the company I work for and the people I work with, it's a little jarring coming back into it after 8 months out, and having all the heavy training to boot...





Comment by Scoopster on 11/12/2009 19:31:23
Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 20:01:56
That was incredible.



Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 20:10:20
I think that Lou Dobbs is going to run for office...

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 20:15:31
there were 15-20 videos that Carrie made????



That kinda makes her a porn star, no?

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 20:43:56
omg --- I can't believe that I missed this last nite. Carrie Prejean is batshit CCCRAZY!

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 20:48:46
if you are around -- please touch base -- I just heard there was a bomb threat in Hartford, near city Hall.

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 20:53:29




Larry King rox.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/12/2009 21:05:21
Quote by Raine:

if you are around -- please touch base -- I just heard there was a bomb threat in Hartford, near city Hall.






wait.. why would someone wanna bomb Hartford?!

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 21:19:40
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

if you are around -- please touch base -- I just heard there was a bomb threat in Hartford, near city Hall.






wait.. why would someone wanna bomb Hartford?!




I am still trying to get details...



Just wanted to know you were ok, even tho this is prolly nothing.



Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 21:28:20
Comment by Raine on 11/12/2009 21:30:40
also this:
Main Street in Hartford is shut down because of a suspicious package found at City Hall = Traffic Alert for CT folks






Comment by livingonli on 11/12/2009 21:32:40
Hope is OK. We'll have to check her facebook page.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/13/2009 01:53:26
Quote by Raine:

what? Did Momma just say she is going to live part time in NY?




Yes, she said she was going to relocate to NY part-time. Had to play it back 3 times to make sure.

Comment by BobR on 11/13/2009 03:14:05


Prolly someone's dirty laundry

Comment by livingonli on 11/13/2009 04:28:05
Back from boys night out at the Roosevelt Field food court.

Comment by BobR on 11/13/2009 04:53:52
Quote by livingonli:

Back from boys night out at the Roosevelt Field food court.


Livin large! (no pun intended)

Comment by Scoopster on 11/13/2009 11:21:38
Quote by BobR:



Prolly someone's dirty laundry


Given how unfortunately destitute Hartford is, that wouldn't surprise me.