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It's not hypocrisy.
Author: Raine
Date: 11/30/2009 13:31:09
Tomorrow, The President is scheduled to make a major announcement regarding troops levels and strategy regarding Afghanistan in a speech at West Point. It is expected that there will be an announcement of an increase of 30,000 American troops with NATO picking up the rest for support.
While I feel it is important to debate the validity of this move by the current president, I think it is equally important to remember who opened up this pandora's box. I would love for us to get out of there right now, but as I have mentioned before that region is even more fragile than it was when we went there. Imagine my surprise this morning when I read the MSM reporting something that many of us on the left were called crazy for saying: BushCo. Let Bin Laden go. According to a Senate report: Not conclusive. Yes you read that correctly. Since that time, we have captured thousands of people and held them in prisons, both secret and not on the basis of heresay. I wish they were just as concerned with "conclusive evidence" before we went to Iraq for those WMD's. The irony would be delicious if it all were not so tragic. Forgetten over the years is another thorny little fact: The Taliban offered to turn Bin Laden over, and BushCo declined the offer. I recalled that during one of the debates in 2004, candidate Senator John Kerry mentioned Tora Bora, and the MSM media chose to ignore that fact. It was more important at the time for them to focus on something he said about Mary Cheney-- the story went down the rabbit hole.
The cold hard facts are that the previous administration knowingly let the face of 911™ walk away and left our country mired in an unwinnable war. I hope tomorrow night, our President announces alongside this troop increase, an exit strategy for this tragic disaster.
Have no fear tho, the warmongering right represented by John Kyl is hoping for no exit strategy at all. There goes the GOP, again, The party of "No" willing to watch people die for a war based truly, on lies. They lie and people die. While they scream about costs for Health Care Reform, the Stimulous, the deficit, they are more than willing to continue pouring billions of dollars into this war with no objective. It is no longer hypocrisy with the GOP, they are warmongers, pure and simple. There is no nuance to it anymore. They aren't hiding with a flag wrapped around them showing 'patriotism'. They simply want war. It started with the previous administration who lied just to shed the blood of our citizens and it continues with the minority party.
Let's hope the President does the right thing and tells us we are getting the hell out of there as soon as possible.
and 
Raine
While I feel it is important to debate the validity of this move by the current president, I think it is equally important to remember who opened up this pandora's box. I would love for us to get out of there right now, but as I have mentioned before that region is even more fragile than it was when we went there. Imagine my surprise this morning when I read the MSM reporting something that many of us on the left were called crazy for saying: BushCo. Let Bin Laden go. According to a Senate report:
On or about Dec. 16, 2001, bin Laden and bodyguards "walked unmolested out of Tora Bora and disappeared into Pakistan's unregulated tribal area," where he is still believed to be based, the report says.
Instead of a massive attack, fewer than 100 U.S. commandos, working with Afghan militias, tried to capitalize on air strikes and track down their prey.
"The vast array of American military power, from sniper teams to the most mobile divisions of the Marine Corps and the Army, was kept on the sidelines," the report said.
At the time, Rumsfeld expressed concern that a large U.S. troop presence might fuel a backlash and he and some others said the evidence was not conclusive about bin Laden's location.
The cold hard facts are that the previous administration knowingly let the face of 911™ walk away and left our country mired in an unwinnable war. I hope tomorrow night, our President announces alongside this troop increase, an exit strategy for this tragic disaster.
Have no fear tho, the warmongering right represented by John Kyl is hoping for no exit strategy at all.
"Talk of an exit strategy is exactly the wrong way to go," Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) told Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday. The Senate's second-most powerful Republican wants President Barack Obama to defer to the generals' wishes in Afghanistan without announcing a strategy to end the war.
Let's hope the President does the right thing and tells us we are getting the hell out of there as soon as possible.
and Raine
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Comment by 
BobR on 11/30/2009 13:58:58
BobR on 11/30/2009 13:58:58
Morning, folks... 
I think the crux of the argument is that they scream about tax money being spent to save people's lives (health care), and screan for MORE tax money being spent to kill people (war).
It's amazing...
I think the crux of the argument is that they scream about tax money being spent to save people's lives (health care), and screan for MORE tax money being spent to kill people (war).
It's amazing...
Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/30/2009 14:07:59
wickedpam on 11/30/2009 14:07:59
Morning 
Comment by 
Raine on 11/30/2009 14:16:55
Raine on 11/30/2009 14:16:55
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza.. 
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 14:47:19
Raine on 11/30/2009 14:47:19
Rays pizza kilt the blog... 
can't say I blame it....
can't say I blame it....
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 14:56:20
Raine on 11/30/2009 14:56:20
Chris is a simply awesome friend for doing all that he is doing for Momma.
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 14:58:59
Raine on 11/30/2009 14:58:59
2 things: Many liquor Stores deliver in NYC
and
Momma needs to get thee to Astor Liquors-- best place in the city for all things...
and
Momma needs to get thee to Astor Liquors-- best place in the city for all things...
Comment by wickedpam on 11/30/2009 15:06:06
I know not this Rays you speak off
wickedpam on 11/30/2009 15:06:06
Quote by Raine:
Rays pizza kilt the blog...
I know not this Rays you speak off
Comment by BobR on 11/30/2009 15:38:24
BobR on 11/30/2009 15:38:24
Momma & the Mooks talking about what Raine wrote about this morning
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 15:57:21
Raine on 11/30/2009 15:57:21
Quote by BobR:
Momma & the Mooks talking about what Raine wrote about this morning
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:28:14
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:28:14
Quote by Raine:
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza..
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 16:39:14
For me -- that is honestly the BEST pizza SLice I have ever had in my life. I am now craving it.
Raine on 11/30/2009 16:39:14
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza..
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
For me -- that is honestly the BEST pizza SLice I have ever had in my life. I am now craving it.
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 16:40:46
Raine on 11/30/2009 16:40:46
I think I have momma beat in the Dog pampering thing -- our neighborhood has a store called *Natures Kibbles* -- it is a health food store for Dogs... 
They love the pooches here!
They love the pooches here!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:48:04
It is a close to the Platonic ideal of pizza as you are gonna find. Since you are now close I recommend that you get yourselves to Mario's in Arlington. You have had it, remember. What is this? The Google Map location? Thanks, Mondo!
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:48:04
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza..
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
For me -- that is honestly the BEST pizza SLice I have ever had in my life. I am now craving it.
It is a close to the Platonic ideal of pizza as you are gonna find. Since you are now close I recommend that you get yourselves to Mario's in Arlington. You have had it, remember. What is this? The Google Map location? Thanks, Mondo!
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/30/2009 16:49:21
livingonli on 11/30/2009 16:49:21
Good morning everyone, 
:sleeeping:
Me very sleepy this morning, I have never found that Ray's on 6th and 11th. I will have to make note of it next time I am in Manhattan. I do hope Lizz gets Momma as her guest for the next Wake Up World show in a couple of weeks than I know I couldn't miss that one.
:sleeeping: Me very sleepy this morning, I have never found that Ray's on 6th and 11th. I will have to make note of it next time I am in Manhattan. I do hope Lizz gets Momma as her guest for the next Wake Up World show in a couple of weeks than I know I couldn't miss that one.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:50:37
The stinky health food store/post office substation near me has some stuff for dogs, not much, but some. I don't think the concept of holistic pet health has permeated the consciousness of the average Jaxon yet. Heck we just got Whole Foods a little over a year ago. Give it time.
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:50:37
Quote by Raine:
I think I have momma beat in the Dog pampering thing -- our neighborhood has a store called *Natures Kibbles* -- it is a health food store for Dogs...
They love the pooches here!
The stinky health food store/post office substation near me has some stuff for dogs, not much, but some. I don't think the concept of holistic pet health has permeated the consciousness of the average Jaxon yet. Heck we just got Whole Foods a little over a year ago. Give it time.
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 16:53:51
Raine on 11/30/2009 16:53:51
Thanks for that Mondo! I have been so busy, I have not had time to check out anything.... hopefully in a week or 2.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2009 16:54:02
Wasn't that the pizza we had at the meet-up last time?
livingonli on 11/30/2009 16:54:02
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza..
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
For me -- that is honestly the BEST pizza SLice I have ever had in my life. I am now craving it.
It is a close to the Platonic ideal of pizza as you are gonna find. Since you are now close I recommend that you get yourselves to Mario's in Arlington. You have had it, remember. What is this? The Google Map location? Thanks, Mondo!
Wasn't that the pizza we had at the meet-up last time?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:59:56
Why yes, Livin.
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 16:59:56
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza..
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
For me -- that is honestly the BEST pizza SLice I have ever had in my life. I am now craving it.
It is a close to the Platonic ideal of pizza as you are gonna find. Since you are now close I recommend that you get yourselves to Mario's in Arlington. You have had it, remember. What is this? The Google Map location? Thanks, Mondo!
Wasn't that the pizza we had at the meet-up last time?
Why yes, Livin.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 17:00:19
How goes the unpacking?
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 17:00:19
Quote by Raine:
Thanks for that Mondo! I have been so busy, I have not had time to check out anything.... hopefully in a week or 2.
How goes the unpacking?
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2009 17:06:47
You have to come up to New York some time.
livingonli on 11/30/2009 17:06:47
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Rays pizza kilt the blog...
I know not this Rays you speak off
You have to come up to New York some time.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/30/2009 17:11:15
You never know
wickedpam on 11/30/2009 17:11:15
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Rays pizza kilt the blog...
I know not this Rays you speak off
You have to come up to New York some time.
You never know
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 17:16:07
Oh poor Mala. The minute Original Ray's pizza hits your tongue, it is like sublime caress of you first love. The cheese, the sauce, the crust! The crispy yeasty-ness of the crust. It melts in your mouth.
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 17:16:07
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Rays pizza kilt the blog...
I know not this Rays you speak off
Oh poor Mala. The minute Original Ray's pizza hits your tongue, it is like sublime caress of you first love. The cheese, the sauce, the crust! The crispy yeasty-ness of the crust. It melts in your mouth.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2009 17:22:31
livingonli on 11/30/2009 17:22:31
There is a poser Ray's on the Island in a food court with a Nathan's near the Roosevelt Field-Source Mall area. It's not bad but it only matches the Manhattan pizzerias in price.
Comment by 
TriSec on 11/30/2009 17:41:34
TriSec on 11/30/2009 17:41:34
Howdy folks! Daily drive-through...
I note that today is Sir Winston Churchill's birthday. Something I read in the History Channel bio is worth noting:
Ah, would that everyone in the Bush administration would go overseas. Maybe that's Obama's announcement....all the warmongers will be required to serve six months in the morass they created. Wouldn't that be nice?
And Pizza. While most experts agree that the so-called "Pizza Belt" extends only as far north as Connecticut, we do have the locally treasuredPizzaria Regina. Don't bother with the mall chain stores, which amounts to poop on a cardbard disk; the only one worth a damn is in the North End on Thacher street.
Raine...I too read the Tora Bora story without a hint of irony this morning. Funny how that all worked out, isn't it?
So....that's it from Boston. I'm at the store tonight, but be sure to tune in for a tasty and nutritious "Ask a Vet" tomorrow!
I note that today is Sir Winston Churchill's birthday. Something I read in the History Channel bio is worth noting:
In 1915, in the second year of World War I, Churchill was held responsible for the disastrous Dardanelles and Gallipoli campaigns, and he was excluded from the war coalition government. He resigned and volunteered to command an infantry battalion in France.
Ah, would that everyone in the Bush administration would go overseas. Maybe that's Obama's announcement....all the warmongers will be required to serve six months in the morass they created. Wouldn't that be nice?
And Pizza. While most experts agree that the so-called "Pizza Belt" extends only as far north as Connecticut, we do have the locally treasuredPizzaria Regina. Don't bother with the mall chain stores, which amounts to poop on a cardbard disk; the only one worth a damn is in the North End on Thacher street.
Raine...I too read the Tora Bora story without a hint of irony this morning. Funny how that all worked out, isn't it?
So....that's it from Boston. I'm at the store tonight, but be sure to tune in for a tasty and nutritious "Ask a Vet" tomorrow!
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 18:17:38
Slow-- I am busy repackaging shleves and stuff to put things ON them... I may die before this is over...
Raine on 11/30/2009 18:17:38
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Thanks for that Mondo! I have been so busy, I have not had time to check out anything.... hopefully in a week or 2.
How goes the unpacking?
Slow-- I am busy repackaging shleves and stuff to put things ON them... I may die before this is over...
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 18:28:42
Sounds like a ton o' fun! It really is time for a pizza break. Or, a delicious burger from Five Guys. You and Bob can split an order of fries, trust me.
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 18:28:42
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Thanks for that Mondo! I have been so busy, I have not had time to check out anything.... hopefully in a week or 2.
How goes the unpacking?
Slow-- I am busy repackaging shleves and stuff to put things ON them... I may die before this is over...
Sounds like a ton o' fun! It really is time for a pizza break. Or, a delicious burger from Five Guys. You and Bob can split an order of fries, trust me.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 18:34:42
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 18:34:42
Raine, you and Bobber are not far from the famous intersection of Glebe, Glebe and Glebe. It's no Peachtree Rd/St/Dr/Prkwy etc, but close.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/30/2009 18:35:56
mmmmmmm Five Guys
wickedpam on 11/30/2009 18:35:56
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Thanks for that Mondo! I have been so busy, I have not had time to check out anything.... hopefully in a week or 2.
How goes the unpacking?
Slow-- I am busy repackaging shleves and stuff to put things ON them... I may die before this is over...
Sounds like a ton o' fun! It really is time for a pizza break. Or, a delicious burger from Five Guys. You and Bob can split an order of fries, trust me.
mmmmmmm Five Guys
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 18:50:39
I just wished they had more than American as far cheese is concerned. Cheddar would be nice.
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 18:50:39
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Thanks for that Mondo! I have been so busy, I have not had time to check out anything.... hopefully in a week or 2.
How goes the unpacking?
Slow-- I am busy repackaging shleves and stuff to put things ON them... I may die before this is over...
Sounds like a ton o' fun! It really is time for a pizza break. Or, a delicious burger from Five Guys. You and Bob can split an order of fries, trust me.
mmmmmmm Five Guys
I just wished they had more than American as far cheese is concerned. Cheddar would be nice.
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 19:44:12
Raine on 11/30/2009 19:44:12
Oh dear -- Thom just called Osama, Obama. 
Comment by Raine on 11/30/2009 19:45:22
We are close to Mt Vernon and Glebe... I am getting ready to walk up there now.
Raine on 11/30/2009 19:45:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
Raine, you and Bobber are not far from the famous intersection of Glebe, Glebe and Glebe. It's no Peachtree Rd/St/Dr/Prkwy etc, but close.
We are close to Mt Vernon and Glebe... I am getting ready to walk up there now.
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2009 20:30:17
True Dat I can get the cheddar when I go to Johnny Rockets but there is a Five Guys right near work in Levittown.
livingonli on 11/30/2009 20:30:17
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Thanks for that Mondo! I have been so busy, I have not had time to check out anything.... hopefully in a week or 2.
How goes the unpacking?
Slow-- I am busy repackaging shleves and stuff to put things ON them... I may die before this is over...
Sounds like a ton o' fun! It really is time for a pizza break. Or, a delicious burger from Five Guys. You and Bob can split an order of fries, trust me.
mmmmmmm Five Guys
I just wished they had more than American as far cheese is concerned. Cheddar would be nice.
True Dat I can get the cheddar when I go to Johnny Rockets but there is a Five Guys right near work in Levittown.
Comment by BobR on 11/30/2009 20:36:36
You mean the thick bready stuff with sauce that tasted like ketchup, except more bland? I'll pass...
I have yet to find good pizza here in DC. There's a place in Alexandria that's pretty good (Bugsy's), but even they seem to have an aversion to oregano, garlic, and basil. How hard is it to put some seasonings in the sauce?
BobR on 11/30/2009 20:36:36
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza..
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
For me -- that is honestly the BEST pizza SLice I have ever had in my life. I am now craving it.
It is a close to the Platonic ideal of pizza as you are gonna find. Since you are now close I recommend that you get yourselves to Mario's in Arlington. You have had it, remember. What is this? The Google Map location? Thanks, Mondo!
Wasn't that the pizza we had at the meet-up last time?
Why yes, Livin.
You mean the thick bready stuff with sauce that tasted like ketchup, except more bland? I'll pass...
I have yet to find good pizza here in DC. There's a place in Alexandria that's pretty good (Bugsy's), but even they seem to have an aversion to oregano, garlic, and basil. How hard is it to put some seasonings in the sauce?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 21:02:35
Were you eating pizza from a different place?
Mondobubba on 11/30/2009 21:02:35
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
It's true Rays on 6th Ave and 11 is the ONLY real Rays Pizza..
I've been there. Very late at night, after I saw ART and PiL at Roseland in '82 we were on the way home to DC. It was a couple slices of heaven.
For me -- that is honestly the BEST pizza SLice I have ever had in my life. I am now craving it.
It is a close to the Platonic ideal of pizza as you are gonna find. Since you are now close I recommend that you get yourselves to Mario's in Arlington. You have had it, remember. What is this? The Google Map location? Thanks, Mondo!
Wasn't that the pizza we had at the meet-up last time?
Why yes, Livin.
You mean the thick bready stuff with sauce that tasted like ketchup, except more bland? I'll pass...
I have yet to find good pizza here in DC. There's a place in Alexandria that's pretty good (Bugsy's), but even they seem to have an aversion to oregano, garlic, and basil. How hard is it to put some seasonings in the sauce?
Were you eating pizza from a different place?
Comment by livingonli on 11/30/2009 21:59:36
livingonli on 11/30/2009 21:59:36
I've been trying to post today;'s blog on my facebook page but it is only set up to link to the main page instead of to today's blog. Usually, if that happens it's fixed by now but it's still off.