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Author: Raine    Date: 02/04/2010 14:03:30

Yesterday it was the Democrat's turn to have question time with the President. In what looked more like a panel of people standing up for political campaign ads, Senate Dems stood forth to ask the president questions. Not surprisingly this debate was far more low key and even somewhat genial.

But make no mistake, a message was sent to the majority party. The question is now, did they hear? In one key exchange, Senator Blanche Lincoln asked:
And are we willing as Democrats not only to reach out to Republicans but to push back in our own party for people who want extremes, and look for the common ground that's going to get us the success that we need not only for our constituents but for our country in this global community, in this global economy? Are we willing as Democrats to also push back on our own party and look for that common ground that we need to work with Republicans and to get the answers? And it's really the results that are going to count to our constituents. And we appreciate the hard work that you put into it.

To which The president replied: [...]
"If the price of certainty is essentially for us to adopt the exact same proposals that were in place for eight years leading up to the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression -- we don't tinker with health care, let the insurance companies do what they want, we don't put in place any insurance reforms, we don't mess with the banks, let them keep on doing what they're doing now because we don't want to stir up Wall Street -- the result is going to be the same," he said. "I don't know why we would expect a different outcome pursuing the exact same policy that got us into this fix in the first place."

Middle class Americans, Obama said, "are more and more vulnerable, and they have been for the last decade, treading water. And if our response ends up being, you know, because we don't want to -- we don't want to stir things up here, we're just going to do the same thing that was being done before, then I don't know what differentiates us from the other guys. And I don't know why people would say, boy, we really want to make sure that those Democrats are in Washington fighting for us."
This is what I and many other Democrats have been waiting to hear from this President. One of the biggest problems we have in the Senate is the timidity of those that were elected to enact laws.

They are more concerned with getting re-elected than making the hard choices for the American people, and in turn they do end up looking like Republicans. The problem is, Republicans don't want these conservative Dems either. By and large it is because they simply don't stand for anything but the status quo. and this was the message that Obama was trying to tell them yesterday.

Not one question was asked regarding Health Care reform, but make no mistake, the President mentioned it numerous times, saying that if we don't get it passed, we are just as bad as the other party in regards to obstruction.

Evan Bayh took the cake, asking a question regarding the Economy he actually had the nerve to say the following:
[...] “my question to you, Mr. President, is (in) speaking to independents, conservative Democrats, moderate Republicans – people who know we have to do this – why should the Democratic Party be trusted? And are we willing to make some of the tough decisions to actually head this country in a better direction?”
and here was the most best response I have heard yet:
Well, I'll tell you why the Democratic Party should be trusted -- because the last time this budget was balanced, it was under a Democratic President who made some very tough decisions. (Applause.)

I think this is pretty straightforward. Bill Clinton made some very hard political decisions. Some of you were there in Congress. You know how tough those votes were. You got no help from the other side. But as a consequence, the economy took off and you had a $200 billion surplus at the end of his presidency. So I think he deserves enormous credit for that. Those of you who took those votes deserve enormous credit for that. That's why we've had -- we should have credibility.

But we're still haunted by the debates that took place from the '70s, the '60s, right? And that hasn't completely worked through the political mindset. So we're still saddled with this notion of the tax-and-spend model when, if you actually look at it, we've been very fiscally responsible.
Now it time for Dems to act like Dems and get the legislation we need passed for our nation to go forward. Sometimes it is easier to hear than listen to what's said. Let's hope the latter happened.

and
Raine




 

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Comment by Random on 02/04/2010 14:23:13
mmmm...Donuts.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2010 14:24:23
Morning

Comment by BobR on 02/04/2010 14:25:40
Excellent!

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 14:26:08
Morning!



Hi Random!

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 14:30:21
Obama, at the prayer breakfast (of which I don't think I like) is actually hitting a home run....





"In this tower of babble, we lose the sound of God's voice."



"We need to find our way back to civility."



"Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith...or my citizenship."



"Progress doesn't come when we demonize opponents. It's not born in righteous spite."



And before him Sec Clinton



"Religion is used as a club...to discriminate...even promote the execution of gays and lesbians..."



"We are standing up for gays and lesbians who deserve to be treated as full human beings."



YES!

Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2010 14:31:29
Morning all! Almost to the end of another week...



Here's something to get those morning chuckles flowing:



http://9gag.com/photo/16037_500sq.jpg


Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 14:31:38
He also called the Uganda Kill the Gays bill "odious"

Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2010 14:35:56
Aaaah Random! Sup stranger?

Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2010 14:36:00
Quote by Raine:

Obama, at the prayer breakfast (of which I don't think I like) is actually hitting a home run....





"In this tower of babble, we lose the sound of God's voice."



"We need to find our way back to civility."



"Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith...or my citizenship."



"Progress doesn't come when we demonize opponents. It's not born in righteous spite."



And before him Sec Clinton



"Religion is used as a club...to discriminate...even promote the execution of gays and lesbians..."



"We are standing up for gays and lesbians who deserve to be treated as full human beings."



YES!






wow - didn't the Family try to discourge them from coming this year?

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 14:40:43
Quote by wickedpam:





wow - didn't the Family try to discourge them from coming this year?
I'm not sure. I was under the impression they were invited.





I am very mixed about any president attending this thing, I will admit that. But he went into the den of snakes and not only stood his ground, but he and Hillary called them out.

Comment by Random on 02/04/2010 14:42:53
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all! Almost to the end of another week...



Here's something to get those morning chuckles flowing:



http://9gag.com/photo/16037_500sq.jpg


Ahhh, so funny.

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 14:47:50
TPM says Obama make a birther Joke -- watch:




I don't think he was joking....

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 15:06:55


Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2010 15:09:48
It's Ti Shan's last day too



Bye Bye Butterstick

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 15:13:07
Saxby Chambliss is such an ASS!

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 15:42:54
Well that was no fun. Our power went out for a few minutes there.

Comment by TriSec on 02/04/2010 15:59:59
Morning, folks.



I know I'm a day late here, but speaking as a New Englander...calling someone "retahded" isn't that big a deal in our neck of the woods.



Your mileage may vary, of course.



And to publicly dispute something posted about me yesterday, I'm not that kind of Libertarian. The party has done much to alienate me since 2008, I'll hasten to add. I feel politically homeless these days.



Remember, it was the foreign policy stance that attracted me in the first place, and I always considered myself to be at the "Live and let live, do no harm" end of the tent.





Comment by BobR on 02/04/2010 16:10:04
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, folks.



I know I'm a day late here, but speaking as a New Englander...calling someone "retahded" isn't that big a deal in our neck of the woods.



Your mileage may vary, of course.



And to publicly dispute something posted about me yesterday, I'm not that kind of Libertarian. The party has done much to alienate me since 2008, I'll hasten to add. I feel politically homeless these days.



Remember, it was the foreign policy stance that attracted me in the first place, and I always considered myself to be at the "Live and let live, do no harm" end of the tent.





About 10 years ago, I took one of those "smallest political quizzes", and it declared me a "left-leaning Libertarian". I rather consider myself a "Libertarian-leaning Liberal".

Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2010 16:14:38
From today's NY Times ... Wow this is one damn amazing op-ed..



As a tech junkie it's a real eye opener as well.

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 16:18:55
Tri, I fail to see what was posted about you yesterday. I was talking about one person that I heard on the radio, and I tried to clarify that I was NOT talking about you.



I feel the same way about certain progressive bloggers (outside here) in my party.



I did not mean to offend in any way. It was not a personal swipe.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2010 16:24:50
Quote by Scoopster:

From today's NY Times ... Wow this is one damn amazing op-ed..



As a tech junkie it's a real eye opener as well.






Wow.

Comment by livingonli on 02/04/2010 16:26:44
Good morning everyone.



Damn I wish this arm would heal it feels like it's taking forever. And I have to get that high-speed hookup finally done in my room so I can listen to more than the last hour of Momma on the bad AM signal.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2010 16:52:06
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, folks.



I know I'm a day late here, but speaking as a New Englander...calling someone "retahded" isn't that big a deal in our neck of the woods.



Your mileage may vary, of course.









Tri, it should be, it is a very demeaning and dehumanizing term for somebody with a cognition development disorder. Our friend SSG's eldest who has Asperger syndrome. He is certainly not "retahded" (note used for rhetorical effect). Over the past year or so, I have been engaging in battle with myself to banish "retard" and "retarded" from my vocabulary. It has been a challenge but I have started to turn the corner. Especially when I share my living space with a cat (Rio) who at many times of the day presents himself as challenged.



This moves me to another point. Sarah Palin. Did she rip into Emmanuel for the right reasons when he used the term? In my opinion yes and no. She was right to call him to the carpet for saying it, but her motivation was at the same time typically Palinesque; self-serving and self-centered. It smacked of that whole "look at me, I am such a great mom" schtick she has been trotting out since jump street.



I challenge all of my bloggie pals to do what I've done. Let's make this year the year we stop using the R-word.





Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2010 16:52:30
not all nakedness is about sex

Comment by BobR on 02/04/2010 17:57:31
Quote by Scoopster:

From today's NY Times ... Wow this is one damn amazing op-ed..



As a tech junkie it's a real eye opener as well.


that is amazing all right... although I'm not sure I get the "tech junkie" connection.

Comment by BobR on 02/04/2010 17:59:24
Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2010 18:09:21
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:

From today's NY Times ... Wow this is one damn amazing op-ed..



As a tech junkie it's a real eye opener as well.


that is amazing all right... although I'm not sure I get the "tech junkie" connection.


Oh yeah I should've posted the diary I got the link from huh.. here ya go this will tie it all together.

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 18:13:42
I come back to Thom interviewing Gail Haggard?



Wowser.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2010 18:13:46
This is the Republican "budget plan"?!



Well now allow me to retort.. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH WE DARE YOU TO BRING IT UP!

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 18:19:00
Quote by Scoopster:

This is the Republican "budget plan"?!



Well now allow me to retort.. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH WE DARE YOU TO BRING IT UP!
50 years? Vouchers and privatization? Wow. That so





NOT ORIGINAL



Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 19:08:02
I am sure you have seen it by now, but I think this is the BEST political ad ever!~



DEMON SHEEP!





Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 19:30:25
Woah! Ex Bank of America CEO has been charged with Security fraud.

New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo today announced that his office is filing civil charges against former Bank of America Corp. chief executive Ken Lewis, former chief financial officer Joe Price and the Charlotte bank.



The charges are the latest legal fallout from a long-running investigation of the bank's Jan. 1 acquisition of Merrill Lynch & Co.



In a news conference this morning, Cuomo said his office is charging the bank with securities fraud because it "understated" Merrill fourth-quarter 2008 losses to investors in order to win approval of the deal at a December 5, 2008 shareholder vote. It then turned around and "overstated" its ability to legally escape the deal in order to obtain $20 billion in government bailout funds, Cuomo said. Merrill also paid out $3.6 billion in bonuses to its employees in December of 2008.





Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 19:46:36
Mala are you guys staying home tomorrow?

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 19:48:57
Comment by TriSec on 02/04/2010 19:58:40
Got one of my fav jazz ablums going this afternoon.....Mr. Hancock's Head Hunters.





Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2010 20:09:00
Quote by Raine:

Mala are you guys staying home tomorrow?






nope, we are open, not happy

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2010 20:12:18
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Mala are you guys staying home tomorrow?






nope, we are open, not happy
ACK.



That's crazy.



Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2010 20:14:16
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Mala are you guys staying home tomorrow?






nope, we are open, not happy
ACK.



That's crazy.







tell me about it - everyone's saying "we'll see what its like in the morning" which is dumb becauce I'll have to drive an hour to get into the office and God knows how long it'll take to get home later. And the thing is I can't not go home because I have the HOA thing to deal with

Comment by TriSec on 02/04/2010 21:30:26
Methinks DC needs to buy some snowplows.

Comment by TriSec on 02/04/2010 21:35:36
Alright gang...heading out. My only weekday shift at the store tonight; we've hit the thin post-peak times. Won't pick up again until after April vacation...



I'm picking up my new glasses tonight, too. It'll be good to see again.







Comment by livingonli on 02/04/2010 22:52:20
Quote by TriSec:

Methinks DC needs to buy some snowplows.


Indeed. So far this winter they have gotten more snow than NYC and we're supposed to get snow Saturday but don't know how much yer since we are on the fringe of that storm that's hitting the Mid-Atlantic.

Comment by Raine on 02/05/2010 03:22:33
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by TriSec:

Methinks DC needs to buy some snowplows.


Indeed. So far this winter they have gotten more snow than NYC and we're supposed to get snow Saturday but don't know how much yer since we are on the fringe of that storm that's hitting the Mid-Atlantic.
We are getting anywhere from 16" to 3 feet. depends on how the storm wobbles.



This is madness. I expect this in NY and NE, not here in DC.