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Libertarian Saturday
Author: TriSec    Date: 05/10/2008 12:38:14

Good Morning!

We haven't had an honest-to-goodness Libertarian Saturday in a few weeks now....

I'm going to start this morning with a little observation. Given what most people know about Libertarians, and the press' tendency to focus on the soundbite, most Americans think the LP to be a conservative movement. Well....if you know anything about your loyal TriSec, I'm hardly a conservative.

Grover Nordquist's crack about making government so small you can drown it in a bathtub is about the only thing people know about the modern Libertarian movement, but that's not all it's about.

For me...it's the freedom. I find the concepts behind the LP to extraordinarily broad, and instead of the 'bathtub' crack, it might be better to use the Hipporcatic Oath (the one doctors use, not the Hypocratic Oath of the Republicans )

First...do no harm.

What is true liberty? In a Libertarian society, you still wouldn't be able to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater...but if you wanted to stand on a streetcorner and flyer the neighborhood about the government's evils....you wouldn't need a permit. (You do now. Some freedom of speech.)

A lot of folks in the mainstream categorize the LP as the party of drugs and guns....but that's not true either. If you smoke marijuana in the privacy of your own home, who are you hurting? But...you wouldn't be able to smoke and drive a car or work at a job where people would be put in danger, or anything like that.

What I really find attractive about the party is it's foreign policy stance. It's close to the Founding Father's original vision...that the United States should be friendly with all nations, and just stay the heck home and worry about our own people. A tremendously smaller, defensive force for our military would also be the result.

And before anyone jumps on me about being attacked, and having the need to defend our borders....think about this. The US is in just about every country in the world, many of whom want nothing to do with us. We use a tremendous amount of resources that could be used in the native countries, and our treasury is stretched to the limit to support it all.

What benefit to Germany or the United States is there in our being at Ramstein Air Base 63 years after V-E day? If the US wasn't worryng around the globe like Mary Worth, perhaps a lot of the conflicts and death over the past half-century may have been avoided. And don't you think a standing army of 100,000 men, or an air force of 1,000 planes, or just 4 or 5 aircraft carriers would be enough to defend our borders?

Libertarianism is a very large tent. I think it does speak volumes that it attracts all kinds, from super-con Grover to li'l ol socially liberal me. Many of you know that I'm supporting Obama this year in the race (largely on the strength of the endorsement from Bill Richardson), so I think it's important for you all to know that even as a Libertarian, I find his platform attractive enough to actually switch parties this year.

Over my brief April vacation, I did walk down to city hall and change my registration from "unenrolled" (Massachusetts-speak for Independent) to "Democrat".

For me, this is what everyone says...Get Involved! if we truly want our democracy back, if we want our candidates to fight for what we truly want, they're never going to do it unless we tell them to. Democrats aren't Libertarians....but neither ar Republicans. There's room in both parties for some of that old-fashioned Liberty, but it's not going to happen unless we make it happen.

10 comments (Latest Comment: 05/11/2008 05:18:06 by livingonli)

Republican Push Poll
Author: BobR    Date: 05/10/2008 00:14:07

I mentioned this in the comments of the Paint By Numbers blog today...

My brother is a registered independent in a suburb of Atlanta, GA. Yesterday, he received a letter and questionnaire from the Republican party. The letter contained his (independent) registration number, and addressed him as “Fellow Republican”.

The questionnaire was a push poll of the nastiest variety. Sample questions:

“Should Republicans do everything they can to prevent liberal Democrats from repealing the USA Patriot Act and other important laws that help our intelligence agencies protect America?”

“Should we do everything we can to stop Democrats from weakening border security?”

“Should Republicans fight for a balanced budget?” (why start now? :rofl:)

I scanned the letter and the questionnaire. The resultant images are large, so rather than post them here, I uploaded them to the blog’s site, and have provided the links to the images here, so you can see them for yourself:

Push Poll Front
Push Poll Back
Cover Letter page 1
Cover Letter page 2
Cover Letter page 3
Cover Letter page 4

EDIT: I added the images via Photobucket in the comments...

14 comments (Latest Comment: 06/06/2008 05:06:54 by Raine)

Paint By Numbers
Author: BobR    Date: 05/09/2008 12:40:36

The last round of primaries had the effect of crowning Barack Obama the Democratic party nominee. The Clinton camp (and her supporters) are trying against all reality (forget odds) to overcome his lead with only a small handful of primaries left. Her only hope at this point is to convince most of the superdelegates to switch to her side.

To do this she must convince them that Barack Obama cannot beat McCain; she must convince them that only she can. She can cite polls, she can use racist language, she can evoke shadowy issues hiding under the bed that could turn ugly when the harsh spotlight is finally shone beneath the dust ruffle. What she CAN'T do, however, is change the reality of the popular vote.
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245 comments (Latest Comment: 05/10/2008 03:45:00 by livingonli)

Operation General Election
Author: Raine    Date: 05/08/2008 12:24:42

It is time to change how we are seeing things. We need to start acting like the primary is over. We have a presumptive nominee and it is time we as a party start operating as tho we are in General Election mode. We do want to win in November, right? Of course we do!

I know that we still have 2 candidates that are actively seeking the Democratic party nomination. As the grassroots of this party, the donators, the true constituency, it is now our job to start -- REALLY START -- working to defeat John McCain. Until the superdelegates get off their asses and commit, someone has to carry the water for this party.
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200 comments (Latest Comment: 05/09/2008 12:47:04 by right wing hater)

Author: BobR    Date: 05/07/2008 12:28:54

By now, you've seen the results of yesterdays primary. Obama scored a resounding win in NC, and it was essentially a tie in IN. Obama is now within 200 delegates of securing the nomination. Based on the math, even if Clinton somehow manages to pull in her votes from FL and MI (without Obama getting any of the "undecideds"), she still cannot surpass his lead. He can now be declared the "presumptive nominee".

It seems even the candidates knew it last night. Obama's speech had the tinge of an acceptance speech and any comments about "his opponent" were directed at McCain. Clinton's speech was a bit schyzophrenic, with "we're going all the way" comments framing a center core that seemed to be a "thanks for all the hard work" good-bye speech. Edwards' last speeches and comments were laden with "we're going all the way" comments too, right up until he dropped out.

It didn't have to end up like this. It could have been Clinton. It could have gone all the way to the convention.

A funny thing happened on the way to the polling place, however. The voters decided they'd had enough of smear politics. They wanted respect.
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175 comments (Latest Comment: 05/08/2008 12:28:35 by right wing hater)

Open Primary Blog--- Indiana and North Carolina!
Author: Raine    Date: 05/06/2008 22:11:20

OK, the polls JUST closed in parts of Indiana... so we are opening up an open Primary Blog...
NC CLoses at 7:30 EST.

So... if you got news, post it! That includes those that are paying attention to the exit polls.

I will be eagerly awaiting the outcome... ok -- I am nervously awaiting the outcome.

:peace: and

332 comments (Latest Comment: 05/07/2008 05:13:23 by livingonli)

Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec    Date: 05/06/2008 10:45:22

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,875th day in Iraq.

We'll start as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4071
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3932
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3610
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3212
Since Election (1/31/05): 2634

Other Coalition Troops: 309
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 496

We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 517, 247, 975, 000 .00

Here at Ask a Vet, we often overlook Afghanistan in the glare of Iraq...but today we'll take a little closer look at this forgotten front.

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243 comments (Latest Comment: 05/07/2008 02:04:03 by MMB)

Has it already started??? AT&T Blocking e-mails?
Author: right wing hater    Date: 05/05/2008 20:17:16

Hey Everyone...this is really unnerving (to say the least)

I post the Daily Reading every morning to the Forum on this site (and I always send it to my bellsouth account (the 'new AT&T' - ie unstoppable monopolistic juggernaut) as well as to a small mailing list (7 addresses - including Raine's yay!)...

Well, I thought something was up this morning, when I didn't see that it went through (from bellsouth to bellsouth) so I sent it to my AOL account from bellsouth and vice versa...to see if it will send it....Nada. Corrupt text/code...nope created brand new e-mails...same thing 3x.

I remember reading a couple of months back that AT&T would become a 'filter police' filtering/monitoring packets etc...under the cloak of 'piracy prevention'. Now for those of you who get into torrents, etc....you know that means you.

We already knew these (insert words here) were illegally accumulating data for the Bush crime family (ala San Francisco whistleblower who has made the rounds)...

Well...I look at their 'new guidelines' and apparently they are content filtering now....

Now...if an e-mail advocates for an illegal action, ok I'll bite...but the thought police enter into the equation here, which I am 100% against.
I can understand them filtering for 'profanity', 'inappropriate content' yada yada yada...but this seriously infringes upon freedom of speech. Once again, I'm an adult (at least in age, maybe not in practice 24-7, 365...) and there was none of the above, in fact you can go to the Forum and see exactly what I cut & paste everday....tell me if that violates any 'terms of use' you've ever seen....

Now...how many of those of you remember "NET NEUTRALITY" and the amazing grass roots stir & headlines it garnered during the run up to the 2006 election, it became a hot button issue and for all intensive purposes we 'won' and it became taken for granted. So when you see those petitions...please take those 10 seconds to do them.

I just got off the phone with them (supervisor) who wanted me to forward the message to their server team, ok, I'll play ball for now...but if by the end of this week this isn't resolved (he stated 48 hours - and yes he asked for a summary of the 'content'), then AT&T can kiss this customer good bye.

And HughesNet (satellite DSL) will have a new customer...

Talk about a Police State, hopefully this is an isolated incident, if not....I may take this and run a campaign against them...

Feel free to offer any suggestions or add anything

BTW: Raine...did you receive my daily in your comcast inbox today?
72 comments (Latest Comment: 05/06/2008 02:27:17 by livingonli)

Feliz Cinco de Mayo
Author: m-hadley    Date: 05/05/2008 11:49:49


Top Five Ways the Stephanie Miller Show Crew can Celebrate Cinco de Mayo

5. Stephania invites her yard guys in for a !siesta fiesta!

4. Momma supplies margaritas and chips and salsa for breakfast para todos (gratis!).

3. Steph wears a sombrero while appearing on Larry King tonight.

2. Do a shot of tequila every time Steph (or Jim or Chris) says "bark park."

1. And the number one way that Momma and the mooks can celebrate Cinco de Mayo - All Sanchez (from Montebello) in Hora Tres (Hour 3)!


Sorry gang,
I am not computer savvy enough to figure out how to post my machete-done photoshop fun, so I will just send you to my blog for my Monday morning greeting to all of mi amigos. [Ed Note: It wasn't your problem - it's the blog software. I uploaded your pictures to the FourFreedoms photobucket so they could be displayed!]
!Feliz Cinco de Mayo!


125 comments (Latest Comment: 05/05/2008 20:27:12 by Raine)

About that bar..........
Author: velveeta jones    Date: 05/04/2008 12:45:01

Reporting from NC: Where Velveeta went to hear our next first lady, Ms Michelle Obama, speak at a rally on Friday evening.

Coincidentally, Hillary Clinton spoke just hours earlier and a few miles down the road. Had I wanted to, I could easily fit both into my day - I chose to see "Iron Man" instead. I point this out as somewhat of a "nudge-nudge" poke. On Friday our local TV "News at Noon" broadcast live at the Hillary event and proudly speculated a crowd of 2000! Not bad for a small town. This was later downplayed on the Saturday morning local newscast, as they were forced to report a crowd of around 3500 at the Michelle Obama rally. Instead, our local news turned Ms Clinton's rally into "thousands showed up...." (Reminder: Ms Obama is not running for any office, Ms Clinton is).

Now, in defense of Ms Clinton, her rally was at Noon on a workday, while Ms Obama's was around dinner time. But still. Mark my words: I will call in sick to work on the day our next President, Barack Obama, comes to town (rumored that he is). Gosh I hope no one at work is reading this.

The rally was held outside on a beautiful, clear, crisp day. A day that started out painfully hot, in the 70’s, the wind was blowing nicely and the temperature was dropping to a much more pleasant low 60’s as the sun slowly set. Perfect for Rallies, Bluegrass music or Baseball!
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