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Author: TriSec    Date: 03/09/2010 11:20:21

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,547th day in Iraq and our 3,075th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from Iraq and Afghanistan, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

Since war began (3/19/03): 4380
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4241
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3917
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3521
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 152

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,014
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 664
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,457
Journalists - Iraq: 338
Academics Killed - Iraq: 437

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$969, 215, 350, 000 .00


So, did you all watch the Oscars?

I've been hearing about the Hurt Locker since it came out; it's been a huge story throughout the veteran's community and online, and it rightly won for Best Picture and Best Director....(and you had to love James Cameron's ex snatching the award right from under his nose.)

Of course...it is only 'just a movie'. How does it jibe with real life?




NASIRIYAH, Iraq — American bomb disposal experts in Iraq say few people understood what they did.

Not any more.

Now, the U.S. military's explosive experts are basking in their job's newfound fame after the Iraq war drama "The Hurt Locker" took home the best picture prize at Sunday's Academy Awards in Hollywood.

But the specialists still have to explain they are not all like the film's arrogant, adrenaline-junkie hero.

Set in the summer of 2004, the movie tells the fictional story of an elite U.S. Army bomb squad that has 38 days to go before its members can leave Baghdad. Under enormous pressure, since one false move can kill them and everyone around them, they are itching to get the job done and head home.

Enter Staff Sgt. William James, who's either a swaggering, brilliant, bomb disposal expert, or an egomaniacal showoff — perhaps a bit of both. The character and the screenplay were inspired by the screenwriter's own experience while he was embedded with such a squad in 2004.

But James' character earned mixed reviews from bomb experts in Iraq attached to the 4th Brigade, 1st Armored Division.

"That guy was more of a run and gun cowboy type, and that is exactly the kind of person that we're not looking for," said Tech. Sgt. Jeremy Phillips, a team leader in Iraq's eastern Maysan province.

Phillips, 30, from Fayetteville, North Carolina, called the movie's portrayal of a bomb expert "grossly exaggerated and not appropriate."

Airman 1st class Stephen Dobbins said such swagger would put a whole team at risk.

"Our team leaders don't have that kind of invincibility complex, and if they do, they aren't allowed to operate," said Dobbins, 22, of Paulden, Arizona, one of many Air Force experts who have been flown in to back up Army explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) team operations. "A team leader's first priority is getting his team home in one piece."

But that doesn't mean the movie doesn't have its fans among bomb disposal experts serving in Iraq.

"While it was sexed up quite a bit, I really enjoyed it," said Tech Sgt. William Adomeit, 31, of Las Vegas, Nevada. Adomeit saw the movie for the first time at his base in the southern Iraqi town of Nasiriyah.

Other than the best picture prize, the movie earned five more Oscars, including best director honors for Kathryn Bigelow — the first woman in the 82-year history of the Academy Awards to earn Hollywood's top prize for filmmakers.

The movie's title can mean different things — from GI slang for severe injury to a place no one wants to go, to a tricky, locked-in space a bomb expert finds himself in when a blast goes off.

Most bomb technicians accuse the movie of taking cinematic liberties that would never occur in a war zone, such as hunting bomb-makers down dark alleys alone, or riding around Baghdad unescorted by U.S. Army vehicles.

"The one vehicle going out by itself, that would not be realistic at all," said Senior Airman Katie Hamm, 23, of Raleigh, North Carolina.

Six years after the film takes place, bombings remain the primary threat to Iraqis. Bomb disposal teams are still finding weapons caches and responding to rocket attacks, but the nature of their mission has changed dramatically since 2004, when the film takes place.

With the U.S. military preparing to withdraw all combat troops from Iraq by September, American EOD teams are teaching Iraqis to do a job American technicians usually spend years training for.

This new task moves American bomb technicians from the field into the classroom, where they pass on their knowledge to Iraqis who will take over the high-risk job.

"We weren't really trained to be teachers necessarily, or advisers," said Staff Sgt. Andrew Krueger, 24, of Greeley, Colorado. "It's something you kind of have to learn how to do as you go."

Collecting intelligence on bomb-makers is one duty of explosive experts' that hasn't ebbed over the years — but trophies from disposed bombs are not exactly souvenirs you can take home.

The movie's lead character, played by actor Jeremy Renner, keeps bomb parts under his bed as keepsakes of the bombs that nearly killed him. In the real world, he would be accused of withholding evidence.

American bombs technicians take care to preserve pieces of bombs so they can use that intelligence to track down and identify bomb-makers.

"Each bomb maker has his own way of doing things, it's like a hard-wired routine — they all have a signature, they all use a certain kind of tape, or they use a certain kind of battery," said Phillips.

Reality is at odds with the movie when it comes to the film's iconic bomb suit. Most of the time, it sits unused on a shelf in the teams' vehicles. Even the robots — the workhorses of bomb-disposal teams — rarely see action nowadays in Iraq since the Americans use them only when called in for a response to a planted bomb.

The explosives experts say they never go for the suit first but use it as a last resort, preferring to do everything as remotely and safely as possible. So the movie's idea that they show up every day and throw on the suit first thing is unusual, they said.

But one thing the movie got down pat, the experts in Iraq say, is a bomb disposal expert's love for the adrenaline rush of a job well done. Now, with improved security across Iraq, their missions are rare.

"If we're slow, and nothing's going on, it means something is going right," said Dobbins.


Of course...you can't have success without controversy. Even on a subject as intimate and personal as war. There have been well over 100,000 soldiers in combat in Iraq; each one has a different opinion and point of view. So how likely is it that two will have the same story? Naturally, there's a lawsuit.


An Army sergeant filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the makers of The Hurt Locker, alleging that the main character is based on him.

In the suit, filed Tuesday in federal court in New Jersey, Master Sgt. Jeffrey S. Sarver claims that screenwriter/producer Mark Boal borrowed details from Sarver's life to tell the story of rash Army Staff Sgt. William James, played by Jeremy Renner.

Director Kathryn Bigelow, film distributor Summit Entertainment, producer Voltage Pictures and Playboy magazine, where Boal published the article that inspired the film, were among those named as defendants.

Sarver's lawyer, Geoffrey Fieger, says Boal was embedded in Sarver's unit and that "virtually all of the situations portrayed in the film were, in fact, occurrences involving Master Sgt. Sarver" that Boal documented. The suit further alleges that the film's title came from a phrase Sarver coined.

Summit Entertainment denies that the Oscar-nominated film is based on an actual person. "We have no doubt that Master Sgt. Sarver served his country with honor and commitment risking his life for a greater good, but we distributed the film based on a fictional screenplay written by Mark Boal," Summit said in a statement.

The lawsuit alleges that Boal breached a contract with the U.S. Defense Department by using more than a soldier's name and hometown for purposes beyond writing his magazine article.

It further maintains that "scenes and information" about Sarver embarrass him and family members, including the character's depiction as someone who loved war more than his son and as a "messed-up" soldier who took "reckless and uncalculated risks."

Such a portrayal would cause Sarver to lose respect among others in the military, possibly damaging his career and even endangering his life, the suit says.


So....from all of us at "Ask a Vet" we thank not Hollywood....not Kathryn Bigelow, but the real-life soldiers that are still out there every day risking their lives. Here's to hoping that they all get to come home and sit in a darkened movie theater with their families one day soon.


 

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Comment by TriSec on 03/09/2010 11:31:14
Oh, a not quite a bonus click...more like a moment of movie geek.



I was skimming around my Netflix queue last night. (something I rarely do; I have literally hundreds of movies listed, I just let it do its thing.)



Imagine my surprise to see "The African Queen" at the bottom of the list!



This was one of the few classic movies that had never been released on DVD; four years ago now there was a movement to have everyone add it to their queue so the demand would be artificially high so they might release it. Looks like it finally worked!



Going to have to bump it up some now...



Comment by BobR on 03/09/2010 13:30:49
Interesting sideshow on the movie... I can see the lawsuit for the article, regarding using his name and hometown, but when an author crafts a fictional story, I think trying to claim it is about you for financial gain is ludicrious.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 13:35:05
Morning





Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 14:10:28
G'morn!



Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/09/2010 14:13:22
Good morning, bloggers! Excellent post, TriSec!



The lawsuit does seem a bit odd. I am not sure how it will do in court, but it will be embarrassing for Sarver if it fails.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/09/2010 14:14:42
I have some sad news.



I got a phone call yesterday from my cousin George, whom my brother, my sister and I call uncle as he is only 5 years younger than my Dad would be. (He is the oldest son of my late aunt Katie, who practically raised my Dad who was an unexpected late addition to his family.)



George's son Kevin on Thursday was in a car near Waukegan. Supposedly, he was arguing with a woman in the car and according to George she was supposed to have said, fine we will take this to the police. Then, Kevin reportedly stepped out of the car -- which was moving at 35 mph.



Kevin was brought to an ICU unit, and a priest who performed the confirmation for Kevin gave him the last rites. Fortunately, he survived. However, he is on a breathing machine. Kevin also has received the same drug that killed Michael Jackson to keep him in an induced coma to reduce brain swelling. A hole has been drilled in his head and he has fluid draining from his ear. He also has a broken clavicle and his neck has been immobilized with a brace.



George said that Kevin was taken out of the coma briefly today. He did turn to where his doctor was talking, and was able to use his right hand to squeeze the hand of his Dad and his wife. However, he was not able to do so with the left hand.



So, if you are so moved, say a prayer for my second cousin. It is a rough time for him and my family.

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 14:19:54
Oh Will... I am so so very sorry.





Yes, I will say prayers for your family. A candle is lit.

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 14:22:19
Are you doing ok, Will?

Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 14:33:28
Oh no! positive thoughts and prayers on there way ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 14:43:44
Why does everyone think Massa was a progressive? He campaigned as an FDR Conservative -- after he switched to the Democratic Party (he was a Republican)





Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/09/2010 14:49:21
I am okay, but a bit worn out. This takes me back to a Memorial Day, several years ago, when my second cousins on my Mom's side Danielle, Stacy, Sherry and Sherry's fiance were on the road between Nashville and Clarksville. A driver who was on the wrong side of the road struck them, and Danielle and Sherry's fiance died, while Stacy and Sherry had serious injuries. So, I now have mixed feelings on Memorial Day.



A friend who just moved to California sent me this article, so I will pass it on.





I Am Angry

By John Cory, Reader Supported News



am angry.



I'm tired of pundits and know-nothing media gasbags. I'm tired of snarky "inside politics" programming. I am sick of the bigotry and hatred of "birthers" and faux patriotic cranks and their GOP puppet masters. And I'm really pissed at the Democratic Party that confuses having a plate of limp noodles with having a spine.



I'm going to vomit if I hear the word "bipartisanship" one more time.



It was "bipartisanship" that gave us this activist conservative Supreme Court. A Supreme Court that says money is free speech and corporations are persons except when real people try to hold them accountable for their greed and poisonous ways.

06 March 2010




It seems that President Obama is now back in campaign mode, which he should have done months back to counter the tea baggers. I am not certain what can be done to turn things around, but I hope that it is not too late.

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 14:51:08
Also, how come no one is talking about NAthan Deal ® said he was going to resign, then reneged because he wanted to vote no on HCR?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/09/2010 15:11:51
Quote by Raine:

Also, how come no one is talking about NAthan Deal ® said he was going to resign, then reneged because he wanted to vote no on HCR?




It is not as glamorous a story, and Massa is portraying himself as the victim of a conspiracy. Mind you, I do not put much past Rahm Emanuel, but I think he would be a bit more subtle if he was going to force someone out of Congress.



Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 15:14:33
ok Massa is getting a little weird with the nakedness and stuff...

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 15:16:30
Quote by Will in Chicago:

Quote by Raine:

Also, how come no one is talking about NAthan Deal ® said he was going to resign, then reneged because he wanted to vote no on HCR?




It is not as glamorous a story, and Massa is portraying himself as the victim of a conspiracy. Mind you, I do not put much past Rahm Emanuel, but I think he would be a bit more subtle if he was going to force someone out of Congress.

I agree will. I simply don;t know if I believe the story. Did you see this video from 2006? I post it becuase as much as Rham has a reputation for being quite the potty mouth... This is quite the opposite.









Comment by BobR on 03/09/2010 15:22:24
So sorry about that Will...



Healing vibes going out...

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 15:53:50
I need some help -- A long time ago, Bill Clinton said something about the primaries and the General election, and that when we got to the general, Dems needed to get in line... Does anyone remember that quote?

Comment by Scoopster on 03/09/2010 15:56:27
Morning all..

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/09/2010 15:59:22
Thanks for the support everyone. I am heading out to my sub assignment and will check in later.

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 15:59:35
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all..
Scoop! I missed you yesterday. Everything alright?



Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 16:00:08
Quote by Raine:

I need some help -- A long time ago, Bill Clinton said something about the primaries and the General election, and that when we got to the general, Dems needed to get in line... Does anyone remember that quote?






Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 16:00:10
Quote by Will in Chicago:

Thanks for the support everyone. I am heading out to my sub assignment and will check in later.


Hang in there Will. Tell us if there is anything we can do, ok?

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 16:01:31
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

I need some help -- A long time ago, Bill Clinton said something about the primaries and the General election, and that when we got to the general, Dems needed to get in line... Does anyone remember that quote?






Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line
Was that the one?



For some reason I thought he (or maybe someone else) made a clarion call for people to get behind the nominee. I thought it was a little different.



hmmmm



Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 16:02:05
Or I think with was what you wanted



"Folks, go ahead and fall in love, be for somebody," Clinton urged the crowd at the rain-soaked Balloon Grounds east of Indianola. "But when the primaries are over, let's fall in line."



"fall in line"

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 16:08:59
Quote by wickedpam:

Or I think with was what you wanted



"Folks, go ahead and fall in love, be for somebody," Clinton urged the crowd at the rain-soaked Balloon Grounds east of Indianola. "But when the primaries are over, let's fall in line."



"fall in line"
THANK YOU!







Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 16:10:58
Not a prob

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 16:15:12
I was looking for that quote, because I am feeling like Dennis Kucinich needs to be reminded that it is time to fall in line regarding Health Care Reform.



I am damn pissed that he isn't going to vote for it.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 16:25:02
so anyone thing Toyota is going to go the way of the Pinto?

Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 16:25:54
Quote by Raine:

I was looking for that quote, because I am feeling like Dennis Kucinich needs to be reminded that it is time to fall in line regarding Health Care Reform.



I am damn pissed that he isn't going to vote for it.




Has he ever done a "fall in line" vote? He doesn't strike me as a person who has

Comment by Scoopster on 03/09/2010 16:27:29
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all..
Scoop! I missed you yesterday. Everything alright?


I'm tired... and a lil bored too tbh.



Plus I'm mulling over different options available for my tax refund..



Oh yea ~~~~ ~~~~~~~Healin vibes for Will's cousin!~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~

Comment by livingonli on 03/09/2010 16:35:24
Good morning everyone.



Feeling a little tired this morning. At least I am off today.



Hang in there Will. So sorry about the misfortunes.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/09/2010 16:43:35
Great, now that song is going to be stuck in my head

Comment by BobR on 03/09/2010 16:52:31


LOL - I saw that last week in the print edition. That's one of the bennies of living in DC: we can pick up The Onion in the street side paper boxes!

Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 16:56:38
Anarchists Unite!

Comment by livingonli on 03/09/2010 17:14:28
Quote by BobR:



LOL - I saw that last week in the print edition. That's one of the bennies of living in DC: we can pick up The Onion in the street side paper boxes!


I can only do that when I go into Manhattan. It's also free in some stores next to the Voice and the New York Press.

Comment by TriSec on 03/09/2010 17:27:45
Quote by wickedpam:

so anyone thing Toyota is going to go the way of the Pinto?




Heh.



I had a thought about that this morning, listening to the whole "mechanical vs. electronic" debate going on now.



Was there ever any information gathered about how many automatic vs. manual transmission cars have been affected? Because in a stick, all you need to do is step on the clutch if the car runs away, and problem solved.



Auto-trannys have a viscous coupling with no true 'neutral' gear. Although in a pinch, you could theoretically throw it into reverse and the drag should instantly stall the engine.



Anyway, I digress.





Comment by Mondobubba on 03/09/2010 19:09:26
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by wickedpam:

so anyone thing Toyota is going to go the way of the Pinto?




Heh.



I had a thought about that this morning, listening to the whole "mechanical vs. electronic" debate going on now.



Was there ever any information gathered about how many automatic vs. manual transmission cars have been affected? Because in a stick, all you need to do is step on the clutch if the car runs away, and problem solved.



Auto-trannys have a viscous coupling with no true 'neutral' gear. Although in a pinch, you could theoretically throw it into reverse and the drag should instantly stall the engine.



Anyway, I digress.







The WaPo has a great article on this issue on Sundee. Ignore the funky mobile web formatting. One thing which is at the very end of the article points up, there are people who have committed user error and have stepped on the gas when they thought they had stepped on the break. Back in the 80s when the Audi 5000 was everywhere as the yuppie car of choice, there was a "problem" with the car going into reverse on its own. In that case it turned out to be not electronic or mechanical, it was pure user error: people who had thought they had put the car in drive, not reverse. It almost killed Audi.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/09/2010 19:33:24
Comment by TriSec on 03/09/2010 19:52:29
Oog, I've had "operator error" myself...usually after switching to an automatic-transmission car after driving a manual. I'm forever stomping on the brake and reaching for a non-existant stick.



Could be plausible.





Comment by Raine on 03/09/2010 21:55:30
I went to clean the kitchen and made a bigger mess. Broke a glass in the Dishwasher. Tried to emty ouut the deep fryer, made a mess. Oil ended up on the floor, went to clean THAT up and the bottle of de greaser fell -- so I had 1/3 a bottle of the stuff on the floor.





I tried.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/09/2010 22:14:28
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Will in Chicago:

Thanks for the support everyone. I am heading out to my sub assignment and will check in later.


Hang in there Will. Tell us if there is anything we can do, ok?




Thanks. Your thoughts and prayers are welcome.



Subbing went well. Now, it is time for some dinner and then listening in to the Jeff Farias Show at 6 PM EST. (There are two active chat rooms affiliated with the show -- Nova Exile and Democracy Interactive .

Comment by BobR on 03/09/2010 23:07:09
Quote by Raine:

I went to clean the kitchen and made a bigger mess. Broke a glass in the Dishwasher. Tried to emty ouut the deep fryer, made a mess. Oil ended up on the floor, went to clean THAT up and the bottle of de greaser fell -- so I had 1/3 a bottle of the stuff on the floor.





I tried.


Here you go:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/ribbon-1.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 03/09/2010 23:33:17
Comment by TriSec on 03/09/2010 23:36:07
You can't be having as bad a day as these folks. Trust me.





Comment by livingonli on 03/10/2010 02:51:22
Apparently, Massa punked Glenn Beck when he went on his show and really disrupted Beck's world of crazy.