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Author: TriSec    Date: 08/17/2010 10:31:10

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,708th day in Iraq and our 3,236th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4415
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4276
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3954
Since Handover (6/29/04): 556
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 187

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq : 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,227
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 775
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,457
Journalists - Iraq: 338
Academics Killed - Iraq: 437

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 1, 066, 639, 700, 000 .00



Does war have an "owner"? If it does, can that ownership be transferred? Iraq, in many ways, belongs to both Bushes. It was 20 years ago under the term of Bush the Elder, that Saddam invaded Kuwait and started this whole sorry state of affairs.



This October marks 9 years since we put troops on the ground in Afghanistan...under Bush the Younger. But does he still "own" that? An interesting story from Truthout now states the war belongs to President Obama...based on body count.


Five hundred seventy-five: That's how many US soldiers have lost their lives in the Afghanistan war since Barack Obama became president at noon on January 20, 2009, according to the icasualties.org web site, which tracks US soldiers' deaths using reports received from the Department of Defense - and which is widely cited in the media as a source of information on US deaths.

According to the same web site, 575 is also the number of US soldiers who lost their lives in the Afghanistan war during the Presidency of George W. Bush.

Therefore, total US deaths in Afghanistan have doubled in Afghanistan under President Obama, and when the next US soldier is reported dead, the majority of US deaths in Afghanistan will have occurred under President Obama.

This grim landmark should be reported in the media, and White House reporters should ask Robert Gibbs to comment on it. It is quite relevant to Gibbs' implicit attempt to marginalize critics of the war in Afghanistan by claiming that they wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than the abolition of the Pentagon. The majority of Americans - including the overwhelming majority of Democrats and at least 60 percent of House Democrats - are deeply skeptical of the administration's Afghanistan policy not because they are knee-jerk pacifists - obviously they are not - but because the human and financial cost of the war is rising, we have nothing to show for the increased cost and the administration has not articulated a clear plan to reach the endgame; indeed, administration officials, led by General Petraeus, have just launched a public relations campaign to undermine the substantial drawdown in troops next summer that Democratic leaders in Congress, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, have said that they expect.


But we can quibble over who "owns" the war all we want. Perhaps just as important is the question "Who's paying for this, Morris? (Yes...Bonus Points available, even in Ask a Vet.) Every year since 2001, the government has been resorting to various methods of Klingon Math to hide the true cost of war. It's coming to light recently that one of the hidden costs that never seems to see the light of day is veteran's benefits. Boeing, Raytheon, Halliburton, Blackwater...they never have to worry where their next government handout is coming from. But just try standing in line at your local VA Hospital and see what a few extra dollars might be able to do.


Two years after an Army specialist saw half his platoon torn apart in Iraq, he hanged himself in a California backyard. In June, the Army and National Guard recorded 32 suicides, the highest number ever in one month. But his death isn't in any military report, because the specialist was a veteran when he took his life.

The nation needs to recognize that veterans aren't included in direct war expenditures either, including our nation's $700 billion defense budget, which already surpasses that of all other countries combined. While it is fiscally impossible to double this year's defense budget, we are incurring a future war debt of that size with little public debate. I refer to our solemn obligation to provide health care and other benefits to the men and women who have served in the military since 2001.

Eye-opening research by Harvard Professor Linda Bilmes and Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz puts the lifetime cost of benefits for our Iraq and Afghanistan veterans at $663 billion. In fact, a handful of variables could drive these costs up further. When Congress appropriates money for the war, it doesn't include the cost of providing post-military health care and disability payments to the men and women who risk their lives for us. That burden belongs to the Department of Veterans Affairs and its budget, driven by year-to-year needs. I recently voted against the $58 billion supplemental appropriation for the war effort that was approved by the House. These funds will go to war, not to veterans. My vote was in protest of the spiraling costs of the nation's engagement in Afghanistan. Ironically, the additional money for the war is about what the VA will need this year to provide health care to veterans.

I fear we are failing to plan for the future costs and needs of today's military service members. This year the veterans of the six-week Persian Gulf War will receive some $5 billion in disability payments. Our involvement in the region is in its ninth year. I want to be certain that all our veterans will receive the services they deserve this year and 40 years from now.



Hard to say when, or if, the cycle will ever end.





 

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Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 12:07:58
Good Morning.



Truthout may want to call this Obama's war, but I think with all these labels, we risk forgetting the mess that was handed to POTUS.



This war has been going on far longer than our involvement. One could say that the US funding the Mujadeen sets this mess all in motion.





Comment by BobR on 08/17/2010 12:41:18
As much as I am concerned about the price of the war in dollars, I am more concerned about the cost in blood.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 12:43:57
Morning

Comment by TriSec on 08/17/2010 13:11:01
Morning again....



Listening to Keith. What's that Beckian Fantasy he's reporting, about Beck claiming there's no more hotel space left for his hateful rally?



Funny....it was difficult to find a room back on Jan 20, but they could still be found. I really don't think 2 million folks are going to be there. Maybe in total, if it's still school vacation, but how many of them might look curiously upon that slow-motion train wreck?



And the Special Comment...I particularly enjoyed the brief lecture about "Sunni" and "Shia" being in Iraq....I can easily get the impression that GW truly didn't know what that meant.





Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:26:33
Quote by TriSec:

Morning again....



Listening to Keith. What's that Beckian Fantasy he's reporting, about Beck claiming there's no more hotel space left for his hateful rally?



Funny....it was difficult to find a room back on Jan 20, but they could still be found. I really don't think 2 million folks are going to be there. Maybe in total, if it's still school vacation, but how many of them might look curiously upon that slow-motion train wreck?



And the Special Comment...I particularly enjoyed the brief lecture about "Sunni" and "Shia" being in Iraq....I can easily get the impression that GW truly didn't know what that meant.





Beck is REALLY saying that?



I call Bullshit, I bet I can find a hotel right now.



Hell -- we were able to book a hotel the day after the election. Was it easy? no, but like you, Tri -- we found one.

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:28:44
IS this what KO was talking about? Jeebus Easter. This is nutz.





Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:31:10
The baby jesus???



I gotta go check again to see if Biff got his permits.





Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 13:33:14
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Morning again....



Listening to Keith. What's that Beckian Fantasy he's reporting, about Beck claiming there's no more hotel space left for his hateful rally?



Funny....it was difficult to find a room back on Jan 20, but they could still be found. I really don't think 2 million folks are going to be there. Maybe in total, if it's still school vacation, but how many of them might look curiously upon that slow-motion train wreck?



And the Special Comment...I particularly enjoyed the brief lecture about "Sunni" and "Shia" being in Iraq....I can easily get the impression that GW truly didn't know what that meant.





Beck is REALLY saying that?



I call Bullshit, I bet I can find a hotel right now.



Hell -- we were able to book a hotel the day after the election. Was it easy? no, but like you, Tri -- we found one.






And I still think everyone should have stayed out in Manassas and ridden the VRE with ease with me that day



This may be tourist season in DC and that will start to move into school trip season soon but you can still totally get hotel rooms in and around the city at most price points

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:46:51
Yay for the Good Dr. Maddow!!!



Rachel Maddow To Receive Cronkite Faith & Freedom Award



Rachel Maddow will receive an award named after Walter Cronkite.



The Interfaith Alliance announced Monday that it would award its 2010 Walter Cronkite Faith & Freedom award to the MSNBC anchor in honor of her work covering religion and politics. Maddow will receive the award alongside Chautaqua Institution Department of Religion Director Rev. Dr. Joan Brown Campbell.



The award, which will be presented at a gala dinner in New York in October, "recognizes individuals who courageously promote democratic values, defend religious freedom and reinvigorate informed civic participation," according to the announcement. Cronkite served as Honorary Chairman of the Interfaith Alliance until his death last year.


Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:47:38
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Morning again....



Listening to Keith. What's that Beckian Fantasy he's reporting, about Beck claiming there's no more hotel space left for his hateful rally?



Funny....it was difficult to find a room back on Jan 20, but they could still be found. I really don't think 2 million folks are going to be there. Maybe in total, if it's still school vacation, but how many of them might look curiously upon that slow-motion train wreck?



And the Special Comment...I particularly enjoyed the brief lecture about "Sunni" and "Shia" being in Iraq....I can easily get the impression that GW truly didn't know what that meant.





Beck is REALLY saying that?



I call Bullshit, I bet I can find a hotel right now.



Hell -- we were able to book a hotel the day after the election. Was it easy? no, but like you, Tri -- we found one.






And I still think everyone should have stayed out in Manassas and ridden the VRE with ease with me that day



This may be tourist season in DC and that will start to move into school trip season soon but you can still totally get hotel rooms in and around the city at most price points
We had it pretty good by staying out in Vienna.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 13:54:15
What you didn't want to stay in the Redneck part of the xburbs?

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:56:45
OK, I contacted the DC region National Park Service.



(I have the phone numbers now... )



So far the permits have not been issued for the Restoring Honor Event. The lady said most likely they will be issued, but I repeat, as of today, the permit has not been issued.

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:57:36
Quote by wickedpam:

What you didn't want to stay in the Redneck part of the xburbs?
yes, that's EXACTLY it.



Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 13:58:51
The President has one responsibility, to protect and defend the constitution of the United States of America.



I believe he did the right thing.

Comment by BobR on 08/17/2010 14:06:26
The training continues... my brain hurts

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 14:06:46
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

What you didn't want to stay in the Redneck part of the xburbs?
yes, that's EXACTLY it.





You're just jealous cause a like a mile (or 2) from my house they have cows

:NaNa:

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 14:08:45
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

What you didn't want to stay in the Redneck part of the xburbs?
yes, that's EXACTLY it.





You're just jealous cause a like a mile (or 2) from my house they have cows







THAT's it!!!

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 14:19:00
How is this Muslim community center ANY different from say a YMCA?

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 14:20:03
Oh for crying out loud its an Islamic "Y"

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 14:22:06
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

What you didn't want to stay in the Redneck part of the xburbs?
yes, that's EXACTLY it.





You're just jealous cause a like a mile (or 2) from my house they have cows







THAT's it!!!










There really are cows like a mile from my house, and goats, pigs, horses, etc - esp at the fair ground - and I have someone trying to raise and illegally sell bunnies across the street from

Comment by BobR on 08/17/2010 14:22:38
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

What you didn't want to stay in the Redneck part of the xburbs?
yes, that's EXACTLY it.





You're just jealous cause a like a mile (or 2) from my house they have cows



We have a sewage treatment plant about a mile from us, so we get simulated "country air"...

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 14:22:51
Quote by Raine:

How is this Muslim community center ANY different from say a YMCA?






EXACTLY! (I should have refreshed before I posted)

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 14:23:38
Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

What you didn't want to stay in the Redneck part of the xburbs?
yes, that's EXACTLY it.





You're just jealous cause a like a mile (or 2) from my house they have cows



We have a sewage treatment plant about a mile from us, so we get simulated "country air"...






lol - okay we don't even have that

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 14:24:18
Quote by wickedpam:

Oh for crying out loud its an Islamic "Y"




Comment by TriSec on 08/17/2010 14:26:59
Hey now, College Park (MD) did fine by us New Englanders. Hotel was right off I-95, and a mile to the Greenbelt Metro.



'course, we had to deal with staying in enemy territory...(University of Maryland).



Aaand we have a working farm about 5 miles from us, even if it is Audubon. (Drumlin Farm...Lincoln, MA)



Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 14:28:13
Quote by wickedpam:

There really are cows like a mile from my house, and goats, pigs, horses, etc - esp at the fair ground - and I have someone trying to raise and illegally sell bunnies across the street from
Did we miss the fair??



Bunnies? illegally?



Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 14:35:15
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

There really are cows like a mile from my house, and goats, pigs, horses, etc - esp at the fair ground - and I have someone trying to raise and illegally sell bunnies across the street from
Did we miss the fair??



Bunnies? illegally?







Fair goes to the 21st if your interested - we're going to be taking Hannah (my youngest cousin) Sat. She doesn't know it yet. Its going to top off a day of getting our nails done, shopping, cupcakes, swimming and me and mom collapsing from exhaustion(sp?).

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 14:37:35




Charlie Pierce just said it too!!!



It's a Y!!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 14:38:56
Does Charlie Pearce lurk the blog?

Comment by TriSec on 08/17/2010 14:52:59
*snort*



Road trips, people.



The "Big E" out in Springfield is coming up soon....don't know the dates for that one, I've never been.



Northshore folks go to the Topsfield Fair....first week in October. It's America's oldest, dontcha know?



(of course, I saw in the paper the other day that because of the weather, a lot of the fall crops are ready to pick now....so I don't know what things will look like in September an October this year.)



Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 15:21:21
Aisha's a geek girl

Comment by livingonli on 08/17/2010 15:34:17
Good morning everyone.



Figures I would be on staycation and would get depressed. Mostly money matters when I look at how much I went through over the last few days. Must really tighten the belt.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 15:42:43
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



Figures I would be on staycation and would get depressed. Mostly money matters when I look at how much I went through over the last few days. Must really tighten the belt.






Keep busy, it helps. FInd some low cost or free things to do, maybe check out the library or if you have place to trade books or movies

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 16:10:03
love love love that the guy who is filling n for Ed is also saying that this is a muslim version of the YMCA.





Yes, people are starting to get it.

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2010 16:12:56
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



Figures I would be on staycation and would get depressed. Mostly money matters when I look at how much I went through over the last few days. Must really tighten the belt.


Go to the beach!



Find a community pool!





YOU LOVE swimming, Liv, why not find a place to swim? You're on LI. I know the Island, I know you can do something that won't cost a lot of money. Go to the water.



BTW, how was the party this weekend?

Comment by TriSec on 08/17/2010 16:16:20
Happy Birthday to KofB today!



http://grownfolksmusic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/miles-davis.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 08/17/2010 16:30:52
The party wasn't bad. A little smaller crowd than expected but a good time was had by all.

Comment by livingonli on 08/17/2010 16:31:47
I think Eisenhower Park has a pool where you can get a day pass since seasonal prices are too expensive. That might be an option.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2010 16:36:28
Quote by Raine:

love love love that the guy who is filling n for Ed is also saying that this is a muslim version of the YMCA.





Yes, people are starting to get it.






what station?

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/17/2010 17:01:16
Morning! Er.............. um...............



Anyhoo. "Klingon Math" Love it! (The comment, not the fact).

Comment by livingonli on 08/17/2010 19:15:46
Listening to Randi talk about the Seattle trip. Between Thom's books and Steph being a mess with the broken foot, it sounded like a blast.