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Watch a right wing meme born, right before your eyes.
Author: Raine    Date: 03/02/2011 18:29:54

This is the kind of misinformation that frustrates the hell out of me. Blogs like this are a scourge upon all the decent and good ones out there.

The blog, Gateway Pundit, made the following claim:
Breaking Report: Wisconsin Republican Glenn Grothman was just mobbed by a group of union thugs.

Republican youth leader Josiah Cantrall reported that the Republican Senator was mobbed by union thugs as he approached the capitol today. He was held for several minutes and was forced to call for assistance. The whole incident was captured on camera – Am waiting for updates.
To be honest, I can only base the date of said blog post from the date of its responses. There is no date there. It is confirmed however that Senator Gothman was indeed on "The Last Word" on March 1. This makes the timing consistent with the claims the GatewayPundit is making. Let me repeat one thing it stated:
Republican youth leader Josiah Cantrall reported that the Republican Senator was mobbed by union thugs as he approached the capitol today. He was held for several minutes and was forced to call for assistance.
So, I decided to watch the video. Yes, it was loud; yes it was angry - that's the nature of protests; people are expressing anger. It was, however, non-violent. There were no visible "union thugs" (I may have missed that...). Senator Grothmann was NOT held (to imply, 'detained'). He did make a call. Rep. Brett Hulsey, D-Madison came out. What is important and what is not mentioned, is what Rep. Hulsey said. (Go to the 6-6:30 mark.)

I guarantee FAUX News will use this as alleged proof of mob mentality. The biggest problem? There is NO report on this. This was someone reporting something they found on the YouTube. To make a point: I am not disputing the video -- only the editorializing of it. PLUS, the credit that the Gateway Pundit is giving to Josiah Cantrall is total BS. He has been in NYC since Monday. Since the original blog post linked to his FB page, I went to take a look. There is NO mention of this incident on his page.
From his page, and twitter:
Josiah Cantrall
In NYC! Just did a segment with S.E. Cupp for GlennBeck.Com!
22 hours ago via Twitter @JosiahCantrall on Twitter

Josiah Cantrall
Hello New York City!! Just landed
Monday at 5:53pm via Twitter


let's go back....
Here is the YouTube description:
Wisconsin State Senator Glenn Grothman is chased and trapped by hecklers outside of the Wisconsin State Capitol in Madison, Wis. on Mar. 1, 2011. Thousands of protestors had gathered as Gov. Scott Walker delivered his budget address to the state legislature, capping off two weeks of continuous protests and demonstrations against provisions which would strip public employees of their collective bargaining rights.


So. there is no way this claim is true:
Republican youth leader Josiah Cantrall reported that the Republican Senator was mobbed by union thugs as he approached the capitol today. He was held for several minutes and was forced to call for assistance. The whole incident was captured on camera. Am waiting for updates.

Little Joshy wasn't there, the Senator was not held. Mobbed is a heavy-handed term, especially if you watch the video. BUT WAIT!!! There's more!

I am trying to find the original source of the video, and to be honest, so far I can't confirm it. It seems to be from this fellow on YouTube which leads to 2 places. A photography business (very good stuff) and this: http://www.dane101.com/. Lot of good information there. In particular, this article.
Dozens of protesters, some shouting "Shame! Shame! Shame," chased Sen. Glenn Grothman, R-West Bend, around the Capitol Tuesday evening as he banged in vain on closed windows and locked entrances trying to get in.

Eventually the crowd, by then numbering close to 200, cornered him in front of the closed West Washington entrance, and Rep. Brett Hulsey, D-Madison, came to the rescue with a bullhorn.

Or "kind of" came to the rescue, Grothman said when contacted at his home in West Bend later that night. Grothman says Hulsey did help him escape the crowd but he was never that worried. "I really think if I had had to, I could have walked through the crowd and it would have been okay," he said. "They're loud, they'll give you the finger, and they yell at you, but I really think deep down inside they're just mostly college kids having fun, just like they're having fun sleeping with their girfriends on air mattresses. That's the guts of that crowd."

Hulsey, who had been addressing the hundreds of people locked out of the building during Gov. Scott Walker's budget address, stepped between protesters and his Republican colleague, known around the state for his conservative views and quirky ways.

"This guy and I disagree on everything, but we're friends," Hulsey told the angry demonstrators. "This is a peaceful protest. You need to back away."
Perhaps this would not have been an issue had the building not been locked? I don't know. What I do know is that the Gateway Pundit and the right wing are creating a false meme here based on heresay and very little fact. I don't think the YouTube poster had intended for this to be manipulated and attributed to the Young Republican Midwest Regional Director who is in NYC attending S.E.Cupp meeting for and GOP fundraisers. There is no proof.

No Senator was held. There were no Union thugs. Josiah Cantrall CERTAINLY reported NOTHING, he is enjoying a trip to NYC, and as of the writing of this blog, standing outside the NY Stock exchange. Pretty good for a kid who's a 'descendant of Titanic survivor' and is a Homeschool graduate.

Don't just follow the money-- follow the meme. Before you know it, the Gateway Pundit or some other site will be saying that Madison has the New Black panthers attacking the Capitol.

and
Raine


 

26 comments (Latest Comment: 03/03/2011 16:19:45 by Raine)
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Comment by TriSec on 03/02/2011 18:40:42
I wonder what they consider a "union thug"?

When I went with brother TriSec to stand with his union boys in NH during the healthcare protest cycle, we were all called union thugs by the folks across the street.

Just by showing up, holding signs, and shouting down their lies....that makes us thugs, I guess.



Comment by BobR on 03/02/2011 19:08:04
It fits the meme with this bogus video where FAUX News spliced unrelated footage into the discussion of Wisconsin.

Comment by livingonli on 03/02/2011 19:48:50
Nothing like the palm trees of Wisconsin. In GOP-Teabagger world anyone who belongs in a union is a thug.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 01:42:05


Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 13:49:35
For now, let's roll with this sucker.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2011 13:59:28
Morning

Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2011 14:09:52
Nice investigative work Raine!!

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 14:11:26
Quote by Scoopster:
Nice investigative work Raine!!

Why thank you! That says a lot coming from you Scoop!




Comment by BobR on 03/03/2011 14:23:36
wow - so it seems that focusing on abortion instead of jobs really IS creating more jobs.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 14:29:30
Quote by BobR:
wow - so it seems that focusing on abortion instead of jobs really IS creating more jobs.

and the GOP plan is going to be SO helpful

Federal Reserve Chair Ben Bernanke said Wednesday that House GOP’s 2011 spending plan would likely cost “a couple hundred thousand jobs,” a number he called “not trivial.”

{snip}

Moody’s economist Mark Zandi said the bill would slash 700,000 jobs, while Goldman Sachs estimated it would cut GDP by 2 percent




Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 14:32:07
I'm a little nervous, I've had the same thoughts as Rick Santorum. Now I feel dirty. Icky dirty.

Santorum: 'Don't know why' Fox didn't suspend contributors Palin, Huckabee


Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2011 14:42:25
Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 14:44:32
Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 14:45:43



Slowly they turned...

Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2011 14:52:59



you know I've never been to the building museum looks kinda cool

Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/03/2011 14:57:47


Of course it is. We're supposed to subsidize them.


Comment by TriSec on 03/03/2011 14:58:39
Uh-oh.

Speaking of which, it didn't get much coverage on this side of the pond, but did you hear about the "raid" the Brits did last weekend?

With fighter cover, they penetrated the Libyan desert with 3 C-130s, and rescued several hundred nationals that were stranded in a transit camp.

In ordinary times...that's an act of war.


And an idle thought...somewhere on the USS Enterprise there's got to be at least one sailor shaking his head thinking "My grandad fought here..."




Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2011 15:10:40
Warning: Big image!

That is one hell of a quote though.

Comment by BobR on 03/03/2011 15:25:04
Quote by Scoopster:
Warning: Big image!

That is one hell of a quote though.

*Like*

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/03/2011 15:26:36
Good morning, bloggers!

Sadly, the level of hatred in America is rising. I am listening to Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center on the Nicole Sandler show. Here is an excerpt from their report, The Year in Hate 2010.


The Year in Hate 2010

By Mark Potok
Illustration by Sean McCabe
For the second year in a row, the radical right in America expanded explosively in 2010, driven by resentment over the changing racial demographics of the country, frustration over the government’s handling of the economy, and the mainstreaming of conspiracy theories and other demonizing propaganda aimed at various minorities. For many on the radical right, anger is focusing on President Obama, who is seen as embodying everything that’s wrong with the country.

Hate groups topped 1,000 for the first time since the Southern Poverty Law Center began counting such groups in the 1980s. Anti-immigrant vigilante groups, despite having some of the political wind taken out of their sails by the adoption of hard-line anti-immigration laws around the country, continued to rise slowly. But by far the most dramatic growth came in the antigovernment “Patriot” movement — conspiracy-minded organizations that see the federal government as their primary enemy — which gained more than 300 new groups, a jump of over 60%.

Taken together, these three strands of the radical right — the hatemongers, the nativists and the antigovernment zealots — increased from 1,753 groups in 2009 to 2,145 in 2010, a 22% rise. That followed a 2008-2009 increase of 40%.

What may be most remarkable is that this growth of right-wing extremism came even as politicians around the country, blown by gusts from the Tea Parties and other conservative formations, tacked hard to the right, co-opting many of the issues important to extremists. Last April, for instance, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed S.B. 1070, the harshest anti-immigrant law in memory, setting off a tsunami of proposals for similar laws across the country. Continuing growth of the radical right could be curtailed as a result of this shift, especially since Republicans, many of them highly conservative, recaptured the U.S. House last fall.




Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/03/2011 15:33:33
The level of hate is rising as the level of education drops.

Seems about right.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2011 15:54:06
back from a conference call - what I miss?

Comment by BobR on 03/03/2011 16:08:37
Raine finally posted today's blog

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2011 16:19:45
Please take a read and migrate over? A proper blog has been posted.