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Author: TriSec    Date: 03/08/2011 11:43:26

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,911th day in Iraq and our 3,439th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4439
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4300
Since Handover (6/29/04): 350
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 211
Since Operation New Dawn: 21

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,488
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 865
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,487
Journalists - Iraq : 348
Academics Killed - Iraq: 448

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 1, 162, 471, 750, 000. 00




We all saw the news recently about the national unemployment rate...with a slight decrease under the psychological barrier of 9%, it would seem to be good news for all. All except veterans of Afghanistan and Iraq, unfortunately. I can remember when having "veteran" on your resume was a good thing, and almost guaranteed at least a call back and an interview. These days, however....that status seems to be more of a hindrance than a help. Veteran's unemployment is still running
far higher than the national average...but fortunately IAVA has some ideas about what still needs to be done.


The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) released unemployment data for February today. The unemployment rate decreased slightly to 8.9 percent for the general population. Meanwhile, the rate for Iraq and Afghanistan-era veterans decreased to 12.5 percent, down from a staggering 15.2 percent in January. Nevertheless, in real numbers, 239,000 Iraq and Afghanistan-era veterans were still unemployed in February.

Today’s newest veterans have faced rising unemployment rates for over two years and as the recession lingers, there is no relief in sight. In 2010, the average unemployment rate of Iraq- and Afghanistan-era veterans was a staggering 11.5 percent —nearly twice the 6.1 percent unemployment rate in 2007.

Despite a decrease, the OEF/OIF monthly unemployment rate for February is still one of the highest ever recorded since the BLS began tracking data for OEF/OIF veterans in 2006. This is troubling given the rate is still higher than the general population by 3.6 percent, and the winter weather—a contributor to last month’s record-high OEF/OIF unemployment rate—improved last month.

In the current economic environment, job creation is an important issue for all Americans, but especially for new veterans. Last week, President Obama challenged business and labor leaders on his newly formed President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness to create jobs. “The economy is now growing,” he said, but the unemployment rate “is still way too high all across the country.” The challenge to create jobs is explicit in the numbers released by the government today.

That’s why IAVA will be focused all year on creating jobs for OEF/OIF veterans. Our new 2011 Policy Agenda is a roadmap of specific proposals for the Administration, Congress, state and local governments, and the private and nonprofit sectors to address the main challenges faced by today’s veterans. Our priority is to secure jobs for our nation’s heroes. One way to do this is to incentivize the hiring of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans through tax credits and tax relief for employers and employees. Another is to connect veterans with corporate leaders and the non-profit sector.

Not only must we create jobs for new veterans, we must also protect the jobs of our citizen soldiers. Earlier this week, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of a U.S. Army reservist who claimed he was fired because of his civilian employer’s bias against his military service. This was the first Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployments Rights Act (USERRA) case heard by the Supreme Court since the law was enacted in 1994. The court ruling is a step in the right direction, but unfortunately, this case is not isolated. There are currently approximately 89,044 reservists and guardsmen serving on active duty. Many have already expressed facing job discrimination from their civilian employers when they return home.

Until now, USERRA has not been well enforced, and it must be strengthened and expanded to provide real job protection. That means creating standard civil and criminal penalties for employers who violate USERRA. It also means preventing employers from firing an employee while a USERRA claim is being processed. Additionally, USERRA must be expanded to protect reservists and guardsmen who are also serving their country through domestic response operations such as Hurricane Katrina or the Gulf oil spill.


It's probably completely unrelated to the jobless story (or perhaps not, as mental health issues are one of the challenges faced by returning veterans that tend to make them "unhireable"), but I can't let this one go. Paul Rieckhoff has reported via FB of a soldier who has died in Alaska after playing a game of Russian Roulette.


An Army soldier died early Sunday morning and his friend was arrested after a game of Russian roulette. At about 2 a.m. Anchorage police were called to an Eagle River home, where 26-year-old Matthew McCloskey had been shot in the abdomen.

McCloskey, originally from Beverly, New Jersey, was taken to Providence Hospital, where he was later pronounced dead. He belonged to the 3rd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson.

McCloskey was at the home of his friend, 25-year-old Jacob Brouch, on the 11600 block of Dawn Street. Police say the weekend started with drinking, then turned to posing for photos with a revolver that belonged to Brouch, and ended with the deadly game.

According to APD, Brouch's wife and children were home at the time but no one else was injured.

“Detectives determined that the victim was holding the gun to his stomach when he fired his weapon, which had a round in his chamber, and resulted in his death,” said APD spokesperson Anita Shell. “It's a very, very, dangerous game, one that should never be played. Weapons are not to be pointed, and unfortunately he destroyed his own life by pulling the trigger.”

Brouch is charged with second-degree murder for knowingly providing the weapon which resulted in McCloskey's death. He is also charged with weapons misconduct.


Finally this morning, there's a growing call for some kind of action or intervention in Libya...unfortunately seemingly led by my own Senator Kerry (who really should know better.) While I am loathe to quote anything by Pat Buchanan....like that proverbial clock, he's probably right about this.


Before the United States plunges into a third war in the Middle East, let us think this one through, as we did not the last two.

What would be the purpose of establishing a no-fly zone over Libya? According to advocates, to keep Moammar Gadhafi from using his air force to attack civilians.

But if Gadhafi uses tanks to crush the rebellion, as Nikita Khrushchev did in Hungary and the Chinese did in Tiananmen Square, would that be OK?

What is the moral distinction between using planes to kill rebels and running over them with tanks? Do we Americans just want to see a fair fight?

To establish a secure no-fly zone, we would have to bomb radar installations, anti-aircraft batteries, missile sites, and airfields, and destroy the Libyan air force on the ground, to keep the skies secure for U.S. pilots.

These would be acts of war against a nation that has not attacked us.

Where do we get the legal and moral right to do this? Has Congress, which alone has the power to declare war, authorized Barack Obama to attack Libya?

The president may respond to an attack on American territory or U.S. citizens, but Libya has not done that since Lockerbie, more than two decades ago.

Since that atrocity, George W. Bush and Condi Rice welcomed Gadhafi in from the cold, after he paid $10 million in blood money to the families of each of the Lockerbie victims.

What, then, is our present justification for attacking Libya?


It is interesting, though, us contemplating Libya on military terms again. As a WWII geek, it's been a bit unusual seeing those placenames in the news again. On November 8, 1942...US forces led "Operation Torch" and landed in Morocco to drive west and prevent Rommel from capturing the vital oil fields in the Middle East. It seems to me like we've been trying to capture them ourselves ever since.




 

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Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 13:39:40
Morning

Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/08/2011 13:53:07
Morning!

Mama's pumped up on DayQuil this morning. She should have just kept to her drunk persona and chugged some NyQuil once she arrived at the studio.

Looks like Buchanan is right there. The fact that there's a D in the White House makes this really interesting, because I'm sure there'd be drumbeats for war if Palin (McCain would be dead by now) were calling the shots and the House would be falling over itself to do the same.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/08/2011 14:22:06
Cleo's got a "mouse" toy in her mouth and she's howling. She does this quite often. I wonder if she's calling her "kittens", though I don't think she ever had any. Or is she just nuts?

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 14:28:26
good morning!

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 14:41:09
You know, regarding Buchanan and the story of the No-Fly Zone, I think it would be prudent for people to know that he is not the first one to say that. The commander of CentCom told that to a senate panel march 1.

Gates has said the same thing.

This ultimately is up to the UN. While Pat may be corrrect, this is not just his thought, so don;t feel too bad about quoting him, he is merely saying what the administration has been. Any talk of it is really posturing.



Comment by BobR on 03/08/2011 14:43:42
Buchanan is right, but for the wrong reasons. He asks "What is the moral distinction between using planes to kill rebels and running over them with tanks?". The question should be "What is the strategic advantage of imposing a no-fly zone?". Considering that Libya's air force has had a negligible effect on this civil war, the benefit is grossly overshadowed by the risks...

not to mention the illegality of us doing so.

Comment by BobR on 03/08/2011 14:44:45
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Cleo's got a "mouse" toy in her mouth and she's howling. She does this quite often. I wonder if she's calling her "kittens", though I don't think she ever had any. Or is she just nuts?

Perhaps this is some sort of feral celebration?

Comment by Scoopster on 03/08/2011 14:56:51
Mornin' all! Back in the office, back in the swing!
*swings an air bat, throws out back.*

An update from the heartland of America.. The recall efforts in WI are moving forward quickly - while the crowds may have gotten a little smaller those who left are now on the ground across the state gathering petitions to recall state senators, a brutal yet necessary reality in this state and this situation to end the Imperial Walker's reign of tyrrany!

And now a musical interlude.




Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 14:59:17
Quote by BobR:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Cleo's got a "mouse" toy in her mouth and she's howling. She does this quite often. I wonder if she's calling her "kittens", though I don't think she ever had any. Or is she just nuts?

Perhaps this is some sort of feral celebration?

She's celebrating Mardi Gras!

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 15:04:14
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all! Back in the office, back in the swing!
*swings an air bat, throws out back.*

An update from the heartland of America.. The recall efforts in WI are moving forward quickly - while the crowds may have gotten a little smaller those who left are now on the ground across the state gathering petitions to recall state senators, a brutal yet necessary reality in this state and this situation to end the Imperial Walker's reign of tyrrany!

And now a musical interlude.


I nearly stopped listening after he went on about Hotlanta... Glad I stuck around. I really like Ben Folds!

Glad you are feeling better , Scoop


Comment by Scoopster on 03/08/2011 15:14:49
Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 15:16:38



Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/08/2011 15:19:54
Now she's sleeping beside me. All tuckered out from terrorizing Sophie.

Comment by livingonli on 03/08/2011 16:12:10
Good morning everyone.

Kitty likes to keep me company in the morning and really likes to nuzzle up when I pet her although she's now moved to the floor since she's found some sunlight to lay on.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 16:40:05
REally, seriously have ever met someone you want to drive a car over repeatedly?

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 16:40:36
Serious WaPo photo fail: This sorta pisses me off. This is how the photo looks online.

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2011/03/07/PH2011030704407.jpg


Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 16:42:03
Quote by wickedpam:
REally, seriously have ever met someone you want to drive a car over repeatedly?
Oh dear.

I have, but I have a far lower tolerance for Bull shit than you. What's going on?


Comment by livingonli on 03/08/2011 16:48:41
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
REally, seriously have ever met someone you want to drive a car over repeatedly?
Oh dear.

I have, but I have a far lower tolerance for Bull shit than you. What's going on?

Sounds like someone needs to be taught a lesson.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 16:57:33
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
REally, seriously have ever met someone you want to drive a car over repeatedly?
Oh dear.

I have, but I have a far lower tolerance for Bull shit than you. What's going on?

Sounds like someone needs to be taught a lesson.



HOA teabagger again.

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:07:14
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
REally, seriously have ever met someone you want to drive a car over repeatedly?
Oh dear.

I have, but I have a far lower tolerance for Bull shit than you. What's going on?

Sounds like someone needs to be taught a lesson.



HOA teabagger again.


I had a feeling.




Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:09:56
WAIT.


Did I just hear that right? Ed admitted to paying callers? He HAD people call in?

Comment by livingonli on 03/08/2011 17:12:46
Since Randi's show is now distributed by Clear Channel, there is a possibility that she may have had some of those.

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:12:53
Quote by Raine:
WAIT.


Did I just hear that right? Ed admitted to paying callers? He HAD people call in?


He Just admitted to having staged callers. (not necessarily paid ) but STAGED. This makes me sick to my stomach.


Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:15:44
Quote by livingonli:
Since Randi's show is now distributed by Clear Channel, there is a possibility that she may have had some of those.
I doubt it, but I knew someone might say that. Do you really think she would do that, Liv?


This is REALLY bad, what Ed is admitting to. I EFFING knew that this would come down on prog radio, Ed admitting it is a punch in the gut.


Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 17:16:43
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
REally, seriously have ever met someone you want to drive a car over repeatedly?
Oh dear.

I have, but I have a far lower tolerance for Bull shit than you. What's going on?

Sounds like someone needs to be taught a lesson.



HOA teabagger again.


I had a feeling.




I've just never in my life met 2 people who have gone out to try and be so ugly. And I know I sound like a whiner but seriously, there are things I value like my word and reputation and I really think they are out to ruin both of them by things they want to put in our minutes and by actions they are taking in our comminity.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 17:18:54
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
WAIT.


Did I just hear that right? Ed admitted to paying callers? He HAD people call in?


He Just admitted to having staged callers. (not necessarily paid ) but STAGED. This makes me sick to my stomach.


years of listening to all sorts of talk radio has prepared me for the fact that there are "staged" calls. When I listened to Don and Mike (back when they were on) they would tell about all the behind the scenes stuff


Comment by BobR on 03/08/2011 17:20:19
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Since Randi's show is now distributed by Clear Channel, there is a possibility that she may have had some of those.
I doubt it, but I knew someone might say that. Do you really think she would do that, Liv?


This is REALLY bad, what Ed is admitting to. I EFFING knew that this would come down on prog radio, Ed admitting it is a punch in the gut.

Ed is criticizing Right Wing radio for paying people to to do the exact same thing he admitted he is doing? Pot - meet kettle...

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:25:38
Quote by wickedpam:
I've just never in my life met 2 people how have go out to try and be so ugly. And I know I sound like a whiner but seriously, there are things I value like my word and reputation and I really thing they are out to ruin both of them by things they want to put in our minutes and by action they are taking in our comminity.


Oy.

You stand by your reputation and your word. People like this are bullies. Bullies don't care about success, they only care about winning a battle. They are not in this for the long haul.

They are not trying to create a better community -- as you and others are. Stick to the purpose of what you are doing. In the end, you will have your word and reputation.

They will have to answer to their deeds.


Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:29:35
Ed has never heard of Mark Levin? Keerist.

Now he just called Hannity a slanthead? HOW DAMN OFFENSIVE is that?

Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 17:30:35
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
I've just never in my life met 2 people how have go out to try and be so ugly. And I know I sound like a whiner but seriously, there are things I value like my word and reputation and I really thing they are out to ruin both of them by things they want to put in our minutes and by action they are taking in our comminity.


Oy.

You stand by your reputation and your word. People like this are bullies. Bullies don't care about success, they only care about winning a battle. They are not in this for the long haul.

They are not trying to create a better community -- as you and others are. Stick to the purpose of what you are doing. In the end, you will have your word and reputation.

They will have to answer to their deeds.



I'm trying, I really am. But I've never been so PO'd over the reckless way they want to spend that associations money but they put on a 3 page agenda how they want to cut spend!!!!!!!!!! Sound familar.

We don't pay for that many things now - lights, landscaping and a property manager - the one luxurary was our fall fest which we did with another communtity. THis year I know they aren't going to authorize the money so I'm saving to pay for it myself - I can't let the kids just sit and watch while our neighboring comminty kids have a moonbounce, facepainter other stuff in a field that it right next to our street!

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:34:59
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
I've just never in my life met 2 people how have go out to try and be so ugly. And I know I sound like a whiner but seriously, there are things I value like my word and reputation and I really thing they are out to ruin both of them by things they want to put in our minutes and by action they are taking in our comminity.


Oy.

You stand by your reputation and your word. People like this are bullies. Bullies don't care about success, they only care about winning a battle. They are not in this for the long haul.

They are not trying to create a better community -- as you and others are. Stick to the purpose of what you are doing. In the end, you will have your word and reputation.

They will have to answer to their deeds.



I'm trying, I really am. But I've never been so PO'd over the reckless way they want to spend that associations money but they put on a 3 page agenda how they want to cut spend!!!!!!!!!! Sound familar.

We don't pay for that many things now - lights, landscaping and a property manager - the one luxurary was our fall fest which we did with another communtity. THis year I know they aren't going to authorize the money so I'm saving to pay for it myself - I can't let the kids just sit and watch while our neighboring comminty kids have a moonbounce, facepainter other stuff in a field that it right next to our street!
Sounds like you have a response to these people.

Go line by line, and respond. AND vent here, and vent often.


Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 17:41:47
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
I've just never in my life met 2 people how have go out to try and be so ugly. And I know I sound like a whiner but seriously, there are things I value like my word and reputation and I really thing they are out to ruin both of them by things they want to put in our minutes and by action they are taking in our comminity.


Oy.

You stand by your reputation and your word. People like this are bullies. Bullies don't care about success, they only care about winning a battle. They are not in this for the long haul.

They are not trying to create a better community -- as you and others are. Stick to the purpose of what you are doing. In the end, you will have your word and reputation.

They will have to answer to their deeds.



I'm trying, I really am. But I've never been so PO'd over the reckless way they want to spend that associations money but they put on a 3 page agenda how they want to cut spend!!!!!!!!!! Sound familar.

We don't pay for that many things now - lights, landscaping and a property manager - the one luxurary was our fall fest which we did with another communtity. THis year I know they aren't going to authorize the money so I'm saving to pay for it myself - I can't let the kids just sit and watch while our neighboring comminty kids have a moonbounce, facepainter other stuff in a field that it right next to our street!
Sounds like you have a response to these people.

Go line by line, and respond. AND vent here, and vent often.




awwww Thank ya'll for putting up with my hijacking the blog with this crazy hoa stuff WHat would I do without you guys?

Comment by Scoopster on 03/08/2011 17:46:52
More petty antics from Wisconsin's GOP scumbags!

Whatever douchebags.. You can keep people out of the building all you want but who cares 'cuz they'll just sit on your lawn instead. Or better yet, gather signatures to recall your loser asses.

Comment by livingonli on 03/08/2011 17:48:38
Quote by Raine:
Ed has never heard of Mark Levin? Keerist.

Now he just called Hannity a slanthead? HOW DAMN OFFENSIVE is that?

Remember, both Mike Malloy and Randi have had issues with Ed and have otten (especially Mike) have doubted his conversion to the progressive cause and his sincerity.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 17:50:05
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Ed has never heard of Mark Levin? Keerist.

Now he just called Hannity a slanthead? HOW DAMN OFFENSIVE is that?

Remember, both Mike Malloy and Randi have had issues with Ed and have otten (especially Mike) have doubted his conversion to the progressive cause and his sincerity.



personally I've never really cared for Ed

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 17:53:36
Quote by wickedpam:]
awwww Thank ya'll for putting up with my hijacking the blog with this crazy hoa stuff WHat would I do without you guys?

I don't think it's like that at all. There is no hijacking at all.


EVERYTHING begins on a local level. What you are going thru is very important.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 17:59:17
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:]
awwww Thank ya'll for putting up with my hijacking the blog with this crazy hoa stuff WHat would I do without you guys?

I don't think it's like that at all. There is no hijacking at all.


EVERYTHING begins on a local level. What you are going thru is very important.



on the grand scheme of things hoa stuff not really that important really, I know this - and I've gotten myself too personally involved in working on this - so an attack on what at least 4 of us have been working toward feels like a personal attack

But I get what your saying about local level stuff - I swear it does feel like a mini version of what the nation is going through

Comment by livingonli on 03/08/2011 18:01:38
I think the teabaggers are just committed to effing up the country as long as the wealthy have their safe enclaves which they think will protect them when the inevitable shit hits the fan.

Comment by TriSec on 03/08/2011 18:03:43
Hey folks...I'm going to show off my elitist, northeast, liberal upbringing.

Anyone here speak German? I have an interest in listening to certain orchetral and chorale works in their original language...I may investigate learning a few phrases, at least.

(Papageno ring a bell for anyone?)



Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 18:07:26
not me, I've forgotten 98% of the German I learned in HS

Comment by Raine on 03/08/2011 18:18:13
Quote by wickedpam:
on the grand scheme of things hoa stuff not really that important really, I know this - and I've gotten myself too personally involved in working on this - so an attack on what at least 4 of us have been working toward feels like a personal attack

But I get what your saying about local level stuff - I swear it does feel like a mini version of what the nation is going through
Getting personally involved is the very thing that makes a difference.

It's ok to get emotional. It's important to get emotional. Emotions are what spur people to get involved, as you did, and are still doing, Mala. Anything less, we might as well be a corporation just looking out for thier own as opposed to making a community a better place. That is what the baggers don't seem to get.

Community makes a nation great.






Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 18:46:03
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
on the grand scheme of things hoa stuff not really that important really, I know this - and I've gotten myself too personally involved in working on this - so an attack on what at least 4 of us have been working toward feels like a personal attack

But I get what your saying about local level stuff - I swear it does feel like a mini version of what the nation is going through
Getting personally involved is the very thing that makes a difference.

It's ok to get emotional. It's important to get emotional. Emotions are what spur people to get involved, as you did, and are still doing, Mala. Anything less, we might as well be a corporation just looking out for thier own as opposed to making a community a better place. That is what the baggers don't seem to get.

Community makes a nation great.



aawww thanks

Comment by TriSec on 03/08/2011 18:52:35
Quote by wickedpam:
not me, I've forgotten 98% of the German I learned in HS


*chortle*

There's a repeated line in this work that clearly sounds like "Is it fucked?"

But given the historical record of Herr Mozart, that's probably what it means in English, too.



Comment by wickedpam on 03/08/2011 19:00:12
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by wickedpam:
not me, I've forgotten 98% of the German I learned in HS


*chortle*

There's a repeated line in this work that clearly sounds like "Is it fucked?"

But given the historical record of Herr Mozart, that's probably what it means in English, too.




probably

maybe Ich bin ......


Comment by BobR on 03/08/2011 19:53:31
Quote by TriSec:
Hey folks...I'm going to show off my elitist, northeast, liberal upbringing.

Anyone here speak German? I have an interest in listening to certain orchetral and chorale works in their original language...I may investigate learning a few phrases, at least.

(Papageno ring a bell for anyone?)


I speak some. I took 2 yrs in High School, then relearned some back in the late 90s when I had to go to Germany and Austria several times on business.

Comment by BobR on 03/08/2011 19:57:16
Quote by TriSec:
Hey folks...I'm going to show off my elitist, northeast, liberal upbringing.

Anyone here speak German? I have an interest in listening to certain orchetral and chorale works in their original language...I may investigate learning a few phrases, at least.

(Papageno ring a bell for anyone?)


Is this for the Magic Flute? If you're interested, here are opera librettos in their native languages, with some in English:

Opera Guide

Comment by Scoopster on 03/08/2011 20:38:09
SC inmate rolls a joint using a page from the Bible..
Well, I suppose it's better than using some of the things some of my smoking buddies and I have used over the years!

Comment by BobR on 03/08/2011 20:39:46
Quote by Scoopster:
SC inmate rolls a joint using a page from the Bible..
Well, I suppose it's better than using some of the things some of my smoking buddies and I have used over the years!

Holy smoke, Batman!