Some of the activities of the self-styled "kill team" are already public, with 12 men currently on trial in Seattle for their role in the killing of three civilians.
Five of the soldiers are on trial for pre-meditated murder, after they staged killings to make it look like they were defending themselves from Taliban attacks.
Other charges include the mutilation of corpses, the possession of images of human casualties and drug abuse.
All of the soldiers have denied the charges. They face the death penalty or life in prison if convicted.
The case has already created shock around the world, particularly with the revelations that the men cut "trophies" from the bodies of the people they killed.
An investigation by Der Spiegel has unearthed approximately 4,000 photos and videos taken by the men.
The magazine, which is planning to publish only three images, said that in addition to the crimes the men were on trial for there are "also entire collections of pictures of other victims that some of the defendants were keeping".
New documents released by the US Army paint a disturbing picture of depravity, deceit and savage internal discipline involving at least 12 Stryker soldiers from Washington during their recent deployment to Afghanistan.
The soldiers, all from the same company in the 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, are charged with a total of 76 crimes, including the premeditated murders of three Afghan civilians and the beating of one or more fellow soldiers.
One soldier is alleged to have stabbed a corpse last December.
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Gibbs also was allegedly one of the seven soldiers who participated in the May 5 beating of a fellow soldier. He threatened "to kill him if he spoke about hashish use within the platoon,'' according to charging documents.
On another occasion, the records allege Gibbs threatened to injure Winfield by saying: "I'm going to send you home by dropping a tow bar on you.'' He allegedly urged Winfield to lie to investigators about the civilian killings and drug use in the platoon, according to the documents.
Specialist Jeremy M. Morlock and four other American soldiers are accused in the killings of three Afghan civilians. Specialist Morlock could face a court-martial and a possible death sentence.
The solider was allegedly among the members of an American Army unit who, consumed with drug use, randomly chose Afghan civilians to kill and then failed to report the abuses out of fear they would suffer retaliation from their commander, according to testimony in a military court at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash., on Sept. 27, 2010. Specialist Morlock, who grew up in Wasilla, Alaska, appeared in court but did not testify.
On the same day, a videotape in the case was leaked showing Specialist Morlock talking to investigators about the killings in gruesome detail with no apparent emotion..
At first blush, officers in the death-squad’s brigade may have been similarly lax. According to a detailed report on the brigade in December — shortly before the first killing — by Army Times‘ Sean Naylor, its commander, Colonel Harry Tunnell adopted the motto “Strike — Destroy” after his soldiers encountered heavier fighting than expected. It’s a long way from General Stanley McChrystal’s orders to protect Afghan civilians from harm.
Naylor reports that some of Tunnell’s frontline units were even more focused on killing perceived enemy than he was. “There’s definitely a disconnect between the platoon and company level and the battalion and brigade level,” an anonymous Charlie Company soldier told Naylor. That was not uniformly the case: Charlie Company’s commander, Captain Joel Kassulke, wanted to conduct more of a classic counterinsurgency mission. Tunnell yanked away Kassulke’s command after the company took heavy casualties. (Apparently this is a story that escaped the attention of marquee journalists who visited the brigade.)
The Monitor interviewed a dozen officers and officials who have served with Tunnell or who witnessed him leading troops in recent years. As active-duty members of the military, they could speak only on condition of anonymity because of Pentagon strictures against talking to the press without official clearance.
Some sources suggest that Tunnell set a tone that was not only out of line with Pentagon doctrine, but was inflammatory and potentially dangerous.
“When you feel violent intent coming down from the command and into the culture of the brigade, that’s when you end up with things like the rogue platoon,” says a senior US military official who worked with the brigade in early 2009 at the National Training Center before it deployed to Afghanistan. “He established a culture that allowed that kind of mindset to percolate. And there are second- and third-order effects that come with that. Clearly, the guys who were pulling the trigger are the proximate cause of the crime, but the culture itself is the enabler.”
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Calling all bloggers - I have two days to give up in the next few weeks.
Saturday, April 9
Saturady, May 14
I'm taking woodbadge training and will be in the field both weekends, no contact.
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hmm - May 14 is my 1 By Youth community marathon and April 9 is a fundraising day - the 9th is possible if I post the night before - let me get back to ya on that one
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And nobody missed the irony of starting ANOTHER war in the Middle East on the anniversary of the ongoing one, right?
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hmm - May 14 is my 1 By Youth community marathon and April 9 is a fundraising day - the 9th is possible if I post the night before - let me get back to ya on that one
You can post the night before and set it up to auto post the next morning!
okay - I'll give it a try but if I break the blog trying to autopost I'm saying I'm sorry now
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oh btw...HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIVIN' !!!
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hmm - May 14 is my 1 By Youth community marathon and April 9 is a fundraising day - the 9th is possible if I post the night before - let me get back to ya on that one
You can post the night before and set it up to auto post the next morning!
okay - I'll give it a try but if I break the blog trying to autopost I'm saying I'm sorry now
Just set the "do not display before" date to the next morning. That's why sometimes my blogs show up with dates of the night before
The building is located in Bab al-Azizia, a sprawling compound that Gaddafi has often used as a backdrop for television addresses, and which was also bombed by the United States in 1986.
It was unclear if the missile strike led to any casualties and it is also unknown if Gaddafi was at the location or not.
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Hal is doing a great job today.
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If I remember correctly from 1986 (when Reagan tried to take him out), Khadafi is quite paranoid; he never sleeps in the same place on two consecutive nights.
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Hal is doing a great job today.
I like it when Hal subs
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I like it when Hal subs
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HERe is a little more information.The building is located in Bab al-Azizia, a sprawling compound that Gaddafi has often used as a backdrop for television addresses, and which was also bombed by the United States in 1986.
It was unclear if the missile strike led to any casualties and it is also unknown if Gaddafi was at the location or not.
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Hal is doing a great job today.
I like it when Hal subs
who was it before Frangela? I can't remember - you definatly have to have humor and facts to do this show
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HERe is a little more information.The building is located in Bab al-Azizia, a sprawling compound that Gaddafi has often used as a backdrop for television addresses, and which was also bombed by the United States in 1986.
It was unclear if the missile strike led to any casualties and it is also unknown if Gaddafi was at the location or not.
Hmmm... I thought the justification was to enforce the UN no-fly zone resolution. This seems to be overstepping that.
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I like it when Hal subs
who was it before Frangela? I can't remember - you definatly have to have humor and facts to do this show
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Changing gears, did anyone go out and look at the Supermoon the other night?
I did, and while I didn't notice any naked-eye differences in apparent size, I noted that ol' Apollo was shining with a bright white light (rather like Venus). On a regular night, it's got a far more yellowish tinge to it.
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I like it when Hal subs
who was it before Frangela? I can't remember - you definatly have to have humor and facts to do this show
wow I didn't even remember that
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Changing gears, did anyone go out and look at the Supermoon the other night?
I did, and while I didn't notice any naked-eye differences in apparent size, I noted that ol' Apollo was shining with a bright white light (rather like Venus). On a regular night, it's got a far more yellowish tinge to it.
We missed moonrise, but we did see it. The moon seemed very bright, but obviously, naked eye comparisons are worthless.
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Well, I suspect the haters needed a diversion from Obama hate. Nancy Pelosi has been hospitalized with a minor ailment in Rome
I GUARANTEE the RWNJs in Freeperville are already all over this with hate and swill
Nancy Pelosi is out of an Italian hospital, a source familiar with the matter confirms for @thefix.
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Well, I suspect the haters needed a diversion from Obama hate. Nancy Pelosi has been hospitalized with a minor ailment in Rome
I GUARANTEE the RWNJs in Freeperville are already all over this with hate and swill
The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C. 1541–1548) was a United States Congress joint resolution providing that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or if the United States is already under attack or serious threat. The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war. The resolution was passed by two-thirds of Congress, overriding a presidential veto.
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I want to highlight something. The other day, the President invoked the War Powers Resolution 1973. I think this is important (and I may very well be mistaken) regarding people saying that what Obama did was unconstitutional. I hated it when Bush did it, and I am not happy with it now. From WiKi:This goes back to Korea. I think it is disingenuous to say that Obama is like Bush... I want to make it clear that I am not justifying what is happening in Libya, nor am I unjustifying it (does that make sense? )The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C. 1541–1548) was a United States Congress joint resolution providing that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or if the United States is already under attack or serious threat. The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war. The resolution was passed by two-thirds of Congress, overriding a presidential veto.
The very very important point (I think) is this: The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war. Congress now has the responsibility to do something about this.
I have been been reading and it appears Obama is NOT willing to let our support of this action to continue on for weeks. I read one report that it is for DAYS at best.
Congress just happens to be on one those Constituent Work Week's The point is, when they return, they will probably have to vote on this issue.
I have to wonder how they will vote. I hope they won't have to at all. Just a thought.
I am still wondering if military force is ever justified. I remember our old friend Grumpyman once said, I am for peace, but I am not a pacifist. That stayed with me all these many years. I don't believe this is as black & white as some may think.