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Water Wars
Author: BobR
Date: 02/08/2008 13:24:56
The water crisis in the southeast (and Atlanta in particular) was in the news last year when it was announced that Atlanta had less than 3 months of water left. The 30 year growth boom had bumped up against Mother Nature, and Mother Nature wasn't budging. The skimpy system of man-made lakes that Atlanta uses for water was tapped out (sorry 
), and the drought had not refilled them.
Pictures like these really tell the story:
(note: That tree stump used to be under water)
So in typical GA government fashion, a band-aid approach was applied: water restrictions. Non-essential water use was restricted, then prohibited. The selfish were the first to cry "but my lawn!!". Then the businesses that use water started trying to lay claim to what was left. Something had to be done. So our governer did what any true leader would do.
He prayed...
On the statehouse steps, of all places.
An lo and behold, it DID rain. It was a skimpy little bit, but it rained. Of course, the weather report said it was going to rain before the prayor vigil, so Sonny timed that one right (with a little help from the meteorologist).
Over the last month or two, we've gotten even more rain, enough to forestall the crisis for a while. Does that mean the reservoirs are full? No. Does that mean we are out of the woods? No. Does that mean people think we can go back to the "old ways" of selfish water usage?
Of course.
Sonny wants to relax the water restrictions
How responsible is it to ease restrictions when the reservoirs are still at a critically low level? Where is that water going to come from?
From TN of course. If you can't make it rain at home, you can steal the water from the neighbors. GA lawmakers want to redraw the state lines to make part of the TN river part of GA:
Why do I have visions of the Hatfields and the McCoys?... Armed rednecks jealously guarding their water with muskets and flintlocks... It's the north -vs- the south in a whole new civil war!
Meanwhile, I keep watching the faucet, waiting for the day when nothing but air and rusty mud sputters out. That's leadership - Republican style...
), and the drought had not refilled them.Pictures like these really tell the story:
(note: That tree stump used to be under water)
So in typical GA government fashion, a band-aid approach was applied: water restrictions. Non-essential water use was restricted, then prohibited. The selfish were the first to cry "but my lawn!!". Then the businesses that use water started trying to lay claim to what was left. Something had to be done. So our governer did what any true leader would do.
He prayed...
On the statehouse steps, of all places.
An lo and behold, it DID rain. It was a skimpy little bit, but it rained. Of course, the weather report said it was going to rain before the prayor vigil, so Sonny timed that one right (with a little help from the meteorologist).
Over the last month or two, we've gotten even more rain, enough to forestall the crisis for a while. Does that mean the reservoirs are full? No. Does that mean we are out of the woods? No. Does that mean people think we can go back to the "old ways" of selfish water usage?
Of course.
Sonny wants to relax the water restrictions
Summer's not sunk after all. The governor wants to give swimmers and backyard gardeners water.
Gov. Sonny Perdue on Wednesday offered a reprieve from the near-total ban on outdoor watering to the landscape industry, gardeners and thousands of neighborhood swimming pool associations, swim teams and private pool owners.
"Swim, kids, swim," Perdue exhorted at an afternoon news conference in his office.
If local governments agree, pool-filling will be allowed and home and business owners will be able to hand-water landscaping and flower gardens for 25 minutes a day, between midnight and 10 a.m., on a three-day-a-week schedule. Watering with sprinklers would still be banned, except for watering newly installed landscapes.
How responsible is it to ease restrictions when the reservoirs are still at a critically low level? Where is that water going to come from?
From TN of course. If you can't make it rain at home, you can steal the water from the neighbors. GA lawmakers want to redraw the state lines to make part of the TN river part of GA:
Desperate for water amid a historic drought, some Georgia lawmakers are trying to reopen an 1818 border dispute with Tennessee.
They have set their sights on a stretch of the 652-mile long Tennessee River that flows tantalizingly close to the Georgia line — and by some historic accounts, should be within Georgia's borders.
"It's never too late to right a wrong," said Georgia state Sen. David Shafer, R-Duluth.
Shafer's Senate resolution says a flawed survey in 1818 mistakenly marked Georgia's border one mile south of the 35th parallel — and thus excluded the Tennessee River from Georgia's reach.
There is a reason thirsty lawmakers are eyeing the river: It has a flow about 15 times greater than the river feeding Atlanta.
Why do I have visions of the Hatfields and the McCoys?... Armed rednecks jealously guarding their water with muskets and flintlocks... It's the north -vs- the south in a whole new civil war!
Meanwhile, I keep watching the faucet, waiting for the day when nothing but air and rusty mud sputters out. That's leadership - Republican style...
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Comment by 
Raine on 02/08/2008 14:17:21
Raine on 02/08/2008 14:17:21
Good morning! ALL Your waters belong to us!
Comment by 
shelaghc on 02/08/2008 14:18:31
shelaghc on 02/08/2008 14:18:31
'Tis a pity we can't redirect water from Pittsburgh to Georgia. The rain's been coming down steadily almost since I got back here and there have been minor flood warnings.
Now we have snow predicted for the next few days, but the temp isn't going to be low enough to keep the snow from melting.
Now we have snow predicted for the next few days, but the temp isn't going to be low enough to keep the snow from melting.
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 14:18:51
Raine on 02/08/2008 14:18:51
*sigh* no liberal will EVER be attracted to John McCain
Comment by 
TriSec on 02/08/2008 14:28:14
TriSec on 02/08/2008 14:28:14
Morning, folks!
I was looking at the Google Earth last night after the border dispute story got posted...is it that tiny little patch of river at the far Northwestern corner of Georgia? According to Google at least, the border is in the middle of said river, but I could be mistaken.
And this liberal did find McCain interesting once. In the 2000 primary when I felt it was important enough to cross the lines and cast a vote AGAINST ol' GW. Hell, I even thought about doing it again this time, but Romney had Mass well in hand and the gesture would have been wasted.
I was looking at the Google Earth last night after the border dispute story got posted...is it that tiny little patch of river at the far Northwestern corner of Georgia? According to Google at least, the border is in the middle of said river, but I could be mistaken.
And this liberal did find McCain interesting once. In the 2000 primary when I felt it was important enough to cross the lines and cast a vote AGAINST ol' GW. Hell, I even thought about doing it again this time, but Romney had Mass well in hand and the gesture would have been wasted.
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 14:42:42
Raine on 02/08/2008 14:42:42
US loses a years worth of prison Records for OBL driver...
Did the dog eat the homework? I think not, check the year that is missing...
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 14:50:30
:rofl: Huckabee Girl! 
Raine on 02/08/2008 14:50:30
Comment by 
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 14:55:38
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 14:55:38
Morning! :hug:
Strangely I find those pictures beautiful and sad. Our resivoirs almost back to normal - wish I could send ya'll some!
Strangely I find those pictures beautiful and sad. Our resivoirs almost back to normal - wish I could send ya'll some!
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:02:04
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:02:04
Dobson Endorses Huckabee.
KEeping the Dream alive, now that it is practically all but done for the GOP... Oh Dobson, you are so ahead of the times!!!
KEeping the Dream alive, now that it is practically all but done for the GOP... Oh Dobson, you are so ahead of the times!!!
Comment by 
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:03:56
My favorite part (other than the gratuituous T&A) is refering to the dinosaur as a "Jesus horse" :rofl:
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:03:56
Quote by Raine::rofl: Huckabee Girl!
My favorite part (other than the gratuituous T&A) is refering to the dinosaur as a "Jesus horse" :rofl:
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:04:32
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:04:32
Oh, and Morning folks.... :coffee:
Comment by 
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:11:48
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:11:48
Good morning all. 
I really didn't sleep well last night. My sleeping habits are starting to get as bad as Momma's.
BTW, how does anyone feel about this place especially Mala? I saw at orbitz.com the Holiday Inn in Rosslyn, VA near the Francis Scott Key bridge is available for any weekend we pick (even the infamous April 11th) for only $84 a night. This looks like it might be the best deal.
I really didn't sleep well last night. My sleeping habits are starting to get as bad as Momma's.
BTW, how does anyone feel about this place especially Mala? I saw at orbitz.com the Holiday Inn in Rosslyn, VA near the Francis Scott Key bridge is available for any weekend we pick (even the infamous April 11th) for only $84 a night. This looks like it might be the best deal.
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:14:27
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:14:27
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:15:56
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:15:56
Is that McCain and Lieberman's failed audiition for Brokeback Mountain II.
I know, I know.
I know, I know.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:16:47
Do you have a link?
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:16:47
Quote by livingonli: Good morning all.
I really didn't sleep well last night. My sleeping habits are starting to get as bad as Momma's.
BTW, how does anyone feel about this place especially Mala? I saw at orbitz.com the Holiday Inn in Rosslyn, VA near the Francis Scott Key bridge is available for any weekend we pick (even the infamous April 11th) for only $84 a night. This looks like it might be the best deal.
Do you have a link?
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:20:21
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:20:21
Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Is this Producer Chris??
After some research, I'd say no... sorry... :shrug:
Comment by wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:21:38
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:21:38
Oh BTW - Raine, Bob, Star! OMIFREAKINGGAWD! Did you watch last night???!!!!! 
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:21:57
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:21:57
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:22:24
yes.
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:22:24
Quote by wickedpam: Oh BTW - Raine, Bob, Star! OMIFREAKINGGAWD! Did you watch last night???!!!!!
yes.
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:24:06
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:24:06
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:24:08
They charge much more than Orbitz is charging.
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:24:08
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli: Holiday Inn-Rosslyn at Key Bridge
This might be a better link...
They charge much more than Orbitz is charging.
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:29:28
I know, but they have more photos and information about the hotel, I thought.
so we can look at the direct link , and then order thru orbitz.
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:29:28
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli: Holiday Inn-Rosslyn at Key Bridge
This might be a better link...
They charge much more than Orbitz is charging.
I know, but they have more photos and information about the hotel, I thought.
so we can look at the direct link , and then order thru orbitz.
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:30:03
yes, but your link brought up an empty Orbitz page, which doesn't help when deciding if this is the place we want to stay.
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:30:03
Quote by livingonli:
They charge much more than Orbitz is charging.
yes, but your link brought up an empty Orbitz page, which doesn't help when deciding if this is the place we want to stay.
Comment by ProducerChris on 02/08/2008 15:30:26
Sorry... not me. Wish it were, though! :)
Good morning, everyone! :waves eastward:
ProducerChris
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Is this Producer Chris??
After some research, I'd say no... sorry... :shrug:
Sorry... not me. Wish it were, though! :)
Good morning, everyone! :waves eastward:
ProducerChris
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:32:35
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:32:35
Also, MAla, the weekends were the 4-7, and then the last weekend in April, Right?
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:33:32
That will work. I guess the links for Orbitz must be specific. Good for when you're searching on your own but not good when trying to show it to someone else.
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:33:32
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli: Holiday Inn-Rosslyn at Key Bridge
This might be a better link...
They charge much more than Orbitz is charging.
I know, but they have more photos and information about the hotel, I thought.
so we can look at the direct link , and then order thru orbitz.
That will work. I guess the links for Orbitz must be specific. Good for when you're searching on your own but not good when trying to show it to someone else.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:33:35
Thoughts, comments, opinions?
Polar bears in the desert? The HeliPeople want Ben? How does Ben know all that stuff? Plane on the bottom of the ocean!
Next week we see person #4 of the Oceanic 6!
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:33:35
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam: Oh BTW - Raine, Bob, Star! OMIFREAKINGGAWD! Did you watch last night???!!!!!
yes.
Thoughts, comments, opinions?
Polar bears in the desert? The HeliPeople want Ben? How does Ben know all that stuff? Plane on the bottom of the ocean!
Next week we see person #4 of the Oceanic 6!
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:33:50
HEya Chris! Nice to see you.
Not too shabby to be confuzled with that guy tho...
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:33:50
Quote by producerchris2:Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Is this Producer Chris??
After some research, I'd say no... sorry... :shrug:
Sorry... not me. Wish it were, though! :)
Good morning, everyone! :waves eastward:
ProducerChris
Not too shabby to be confuzled with that guy tho...
Comment by wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:34:45
Think the ones suggested were -
April 4-6
April 25-27
May 3-5
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:34:45
Quote by Raine: Also, MAla, the weekends were the 4-7, and then the last weekend in April, Right?
Think the ones suggested were -
April 4-6
April 25-27
May 3-5
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:35:12
I am so confused with all of it! I am really thinking that we are going backward and foward in time.
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:35:12
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam: Oh BTW - Raine, Bob, Star! OMIFREAKINGGAWD! Did you watch last night???!!!!!
yes.
Thoughts, comments, opinions?
Polar bears in the desert? The HeliPeople want Ben? How does Ben know all that stuff? Plane on the bottom of the ocean!
Next week we see person #4 of the Oceanic 6!
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:35:20
Hi Chris. :waves southwestward: You can add the symbol and set it as your user icon like how we each have one. 
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:35:20
Quote by producerchris2:Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR: Is this Producer Chris??
After some research, I'd say no... sorry... :shrug:
Sorry... not me. Wish it were, though! :)
Good morning, everyone! :waves eastward:
ProducerChris
Hi Chris. :waves southwestward: You can add the
symbol and set it as your user icon like how we each have one.
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:35:21
Oh hey - I guess we're not blowing up your browser anymore... :D
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:35:21
Quote by producerchris2:
Sorry... not me. Wish it were, though! :)
Good morning, everyone! :waves eastward:
ProducerChris
Oh hey - I guess we're not blowing up your browser anymore... :D
Comment by wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:35:48
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:35:48
HEY CHRIS! 
(I think the caffine is kicking in!)
(I think the caffine is kicking in!)
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:37:11
well the hotel looks fine to me, if it looks good to you and Shelagh.
the 4-6 is still in time for part of the festival, right?
SO what do we think?
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:37:11
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: Also, MAla, the weekends were the 4-7, and then the last weekend in April, Right?
Think the ones suggested were -
April 4-6
April 25-27
May 3-5
the 4-6 is still in time for part of the festival, right?
SO what do we think?
Comment by wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:37:12
Flash Fowards are the new black.
Although I those were flash backs last night.
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:37:12
Quote by Raine:I am so confused with all of it! I am really thinking that we are going backward and foward in time.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam: Oh BTW - Raine, Bob, Star! OMIFREAKINGGAWD! Did you watch last night???!!!!!
yes.
Thoughts, comments, opinions?
Polar bears in the desert? The HeliPeople want Ben? How does Ben know all that stuff? Plane on the bottom of the ocean!
Next week we see person #4 of the Oceanic 6!
Flash Fowards are the new black.
Although I those were flash backs last night.
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:37:22
If we go with that Holdiay Inn, we could even do April 11th because I saw the same rate with Orbitz for that weekend.
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:37:22
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine: Also, MAla, the weekends were the 4-7, and then the last weekend in April, Right?
Think the ones suggested were -
April 4-6
April 25-27
May 3-5
If we go with that Holdiay Inn, we could even do April 11th because I saw the same rate with Orbitz for that weekend.
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:38:08
Besides BobR, you have better things to blow...
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:38:08
Quote by BobR:Quote by producerchris2:
Sorry... not me. Wish it were, though! :)
Good morning, everyone! :waves eastward:
ProducerChris
Oh hey - I guess we're not blowing up your browser anymore... :D
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:38:18
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:38:18
I guess if 
wants to join us that may determine the weekend since she has the least flexibility.
wants to join us that may determine the weekend since she has the least flexibility.
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:39:35
I think would rather us plan, and then if she can work it, she will.
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:39:35
Quote by livingonli: I guess if
I think
would rather us plan, and then if she can work it, she will.
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:40:20
Polar Bear: It was wearing a Dharma initiative collar, or something similar. The age of the bones wasn't clear. If they were older, then perhaps the Dharma group is much older than initial appearances.
HeliPeople: He was responsible for the deaths of all the people that were originally at the outpost.
Ben: He said he had someone on the ship feeding him info.
Plane: I think it was faked footage by the same folks that want to keep the island a secret.
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:40:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Thoughts, comments, opinions?
Polar bears in the desert? The HeliPeople want Ben? How does Ben know all that stuff? Plane on the bottom of the ocean!
Next week we see person #4 of the Oceanic 6!
Polar Bear: It was wearing a Dharma initiative collar, or something similar. The age of the bones wasn't clear. If they were older, then perhaps the Dharma group is much older than initial appearances.
HeliPeople: He was responsible for the deaths of all the people that were originally at the outpost.
Ben: He said he had someone on the ship feeding him info.
Plane: I think it was faked footage by the same folks that want to keep the island a secret.
Comment by BobR on 02/08/2008 15:42:15
Now don't be giving Chris the wrong idea!
BobR on 02/08/2008 15:42:15
Quote by Raine: Besides BobR, you have better things to blow...
Now don't be giving Chris the wrong idea!
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:42:37
I hope so. Let's see if we can get a big group.
I looked on the Holiday Inn and there are plenty of eating places in walking distance plus the Subway so at least we can find enough places to eat at night which was the one drawback of the Capitol location.
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:42:37
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli: I guess if
I think
I hope so. Let's see if we can get a big group.
I looked on the Holiday Inn and there are plenty of eating places in walking distance plus the Subway so at least we can find enough places to eat at night which was the one drawback of the Capitol location.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/08/2008 15:43:28
shelaghc on 02/08/2008 15:43:28
I just saw some fantastic news!
Rachel is going to *three* hours nightly starting sometime next month!
:party: 
Now if she could only get Kent Jones back, everything would be perfectamento!
Of course, this probably puts the kibbosh on her having a show on MSNBC anytime soon.
:(
Rachel is going to *three* hours nightly starting sometime next month!
Of course, this probably puts the kibbosh on her having a show on MSNBC anytime soon.
:(
Comment by livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:44:22
livingonli on 02/08/2008 15:44:22
Are these the same right-wing tools who don't like McCain and ignore when Romney said that he would be more pro-gay rights than Ted Kennedy. :rolleyes2:
It seems like the hard-core right-wing has the collective IQ of a spitball.
It seems like the hard-core right-wing has the collective IQ of a spitball.
Comment by shelaghc on 02/08/2008 15:44:56
Do folks still want me to look into AARP rates once a specific date/hotel/etc has all been worked out?
shelaghc on 02/08/2008 15:44:56
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli: I guess if
I think
I hope so. Let's see if we can get a big group.
I looked on the Holiday Inn and there are plenty of eating places in walking distance plus the Subway so at least we can find enough places to eat at night which was the one drawback of the Capitol location.
Do folks still want me to look into AARP rates once a specific date/hotel/etc has all been worked out?
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:47:12
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:47:12
Comment by Raine on 02/08/2008 15:50:13
Link from CNN.
Raine on 02/08/2008 15:50:13
The House voted 380-34 to accept the Senate's $170 billion measure, just a few hours after Democratic and Republican senators reached accord and ended a days-long stalemate over the bill.
The deal, passed in the Senate on a 81-16 vote, includes rebate check amounts of $300 to $600 for people who have an income between $3,000 and $75,000, plus $300 per child.
Couples earning up to $150,000 would get $1,200.
But the plan also gives checks to more than 20 million Social Security beneficiaries and 250,000 handicapped veterans and their widows.
Two White House officials said President Bush will probably sign the bill next week.
Comment by wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:50:16
Bear - Yep it had a Hydra station collar - so what the hell is/was Dharma doing with Polar Bears?
Heli's - It was pointed out to me that Dan, the nervous guy Jack and Kate first meet, shares the same last name of Faraday with the scientiest that discovered light is effected by magnetism. Dan even commented on how the light looked different on the island. So was does a Phyisist(sp), an Archeologist, a Paranormal investigator and the guy who was suppose to pilot 815 have in common? And why was the guy who visited Hurley in the crazy hospital putting the team together, with Naomi, insist there were no survivors?
Boat/Ben - How is he always one step ahead of everyone?
Plane - I was thinking it was fake too.
wickedpam on 02/08/2008 15:50:16
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Thoughts, comments, opinions?
Polar bears in the desert? The HeliPeople want Ben? How does Ben know all that stuff? Plane on the bottom of the ocean!
Next week we see person #4 of the Oceanic 6!
Polar Bear: It was wearing a Dharma initiative collar, or something similar. The age of the bones wasn't clear. If they were older, then perhaps the Dharma group is much older than initial appearances.
HeliPeople: He was responsible for the deaths of all the people that were originally at the outpost.
Ben: He said he had someone on the ship feeding him info.
Plane: I think it was faked footage by the same folks that want to keep the island a secret.
Bear - Yep it had a Hydra station collar - so what the hell is/was Dharma doing with Polar Bears?
Heli's - It was pointed out to me that Dan, the nervous guy Jack and Kate first meet, shares the same last name of Faraday with the scientiest that discovered light is effected by magnetism. Dan even commented on how the light looked different on the island. So was does a Phyisist(sp), an Archeologist, a Paranormal investigator and the guy who was suppose to pilot 815 have in common? And why was the guy who visited Hurley in the crazy hospital putting the team together, with Naomi, insist there were no survivors?
Boat/Ben - How is he always one step ahead of everyone?
Plane - I was thinking it was fake too.