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Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 12/13/2011 11:20:21
Good Morning.
Today is our 3,191st day in Iraq and our 3,719th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4483
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4344
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3624
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 255
Since Operation New Dawn: 55
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 319
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,849
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 974
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,487
Journalists - Iraq : 348
Academics Killed - Iraq: 448
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:
$ 1, 291, 111, 250, 000 .00
Well, for the first time in what seems like months, I don't have anything overly relevant squirreled away. So...we'll turn to our old friends at IAVA and see what's happening in the veteran's community as we near the holidays.
Paul has a rather lengthy post about the families of our servicemen...as the saying goes, Service member enlist...their families are drafted.
As Congruss winds down for the year, there's little news on the legislative front. But that doesn't stop the goings-on in Washington. With little more than two weeks left in Iraq, the next phase of our involvement is set to begin. With that in mind, the Iraqi Prime Minister was in Washington to meet with President Obama. Although there is some posturing, it might be best if we just forget it and put the entire sorry affair behind us.
Otherwise...it's blessedly quiet this week. I think we'll leave it at that.
Today is our 3,191st day in Iraq and our 3,719th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4483
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4344
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3624
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 255
Since Operation New Dawn: 55
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 319
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,849
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 974
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,487
Journalists - Iraq : 348
Academics Killed - Iraq: 448
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:
Well, for the first time in what seems like months, I don't have anything overly relevant squirreled away. So...we'll turn to our old friends at IAVA and see what's happening in the veteran's community as we near the holidays.
Paul has a rather lengthy post about the families of our servicemen...as the saying goes, Service member enlist...their families are drafted.
“Service members enlist. Their families are drafted.”
That familiar refrain has been uttered time and time again on American military bases across the globe during these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There’s a lot of truth found in it, and such a reality rarely ends when a service member returns home.
Take Marine Sergeant Stephen Inman and his wife Bethany, for example. They’ve both sacrificed proudly for our country through Stephen’s three deployments – two tours in Iraq and his most recent tour to Afghanistan. A month before Stephen left for his last deployment, the Inmans found out they were expecting their first baby. The couple thought Stephen might be able to return early to witness the birth, but deployment needs dictated otherwise. As a result, Bethany gave birth to their daughter, Khloe Rae, without Stephen at her side. Though it had been the circumstances of the situation, not a personal choice, Stephen blamed himself for being away at war when Khloe was born. Meanwhile, back home Bethany dealt with all the labors of new parenthood alone, juggling the mortgage, the car payments and bouts of anxiety and depression.
The Inmans’ are just one couple of millions who have faced the challenges of service. Since 9/11, over 3 million Americans have had a spouse or parent deploy in these wars. As the Iraq war ends, this small minority is exactly why IAVA is launching a new program for military families inspired by the findings in our latest issue report Unsung Heroes: Military Families After Ten Years of War. Be the first to read it online and share it with your own friends and family.
The report findings should be a gut-check for every American heading home to their own families this holiday season. For ten years, through two of the longest wars in American history, military families have braved unique challenges with the same strength and resilience as their loved ones fighting overseas. But the strain of multiple deployments and the economic crisis are taking a heavy toll.
Unlike the World War II generation that rallied around those on the home front, American society nowadays is generally clueless about the sacrifices these families face. Service members of this generation are deploying two, three, even four times, and the abnormal has become normal for their families. As a result, a third of military spouses whose partners deployed were diagnosed with anxiety, depression, sleeping problems and other mental disorders according to a recent study. Meanwhile, their kids are also feeling the pressure of frequent moves and households managed by single parents. A 2009 study found that one-third of children between ages five and twelve who experienced parental deployment had a high likelihood of developing social and psychological problems.
If the emotional toll of war and separation isn’t enough on a family, the economic crisis at home is causing more stress. As the U.S. military surged in Iraq, foreclosures in military communities back home spiked by 32 percent between 2008 and 2010. Over 20,000 service members lost their homes to foreclosure last year alone. And, according to the latest figures, over 26 percent of military spouses were unemployed in June – the national average was 9.2 percent.
As Congruss winds down for the year, there's little news on the legislative front. But that doesn't stop the goings-on in Washington. With little more than two weeks left in Iraq, the next phase of our involvement is set to begin. With that in mind, the Iraqi Prime Minister was in Washington to meet with President Obama. Although there is some posturing, it might be best if we just forget it and put the entire sorry affair behind us.
WASHINGTON -- Eager to put the long and divisive Iraq war to rest, President Barack Obama declared Monday "those days are over" with the last American troops heading home, but he pledged the U.S. would remain committed to the fledgling government they leave behind. He and Iraq's leader somberly saluted America's war dead at Arlington National Cemetery.
"A war is ending," the president said, standing with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki at the White House. U.S. troops are leaving "with honor and with their heads held high," said Obama, who strongly opposed the war as a candidate for the White House.
The last American troops are to be out of Iraq by Dec. 31. Thousands of others are still in Afghanistan.
Just 6,000 remain in Iraq, down from 170,000 at the war's peak in 2007.
The withdrawal will cap a war in which nearly 4,500 Americans were killed, about 32,000 were wounded, hundreds of billions of dollars were spent and the American political debate was consumed until economic woes brought attention back home.
Obama had said weeks ago that he was pulling all troops by year's end, leaving his appearance with al-Maliki to focus instead on what's next -- a relationship both leaders described as rich in shared interests, from education to oil, politics to security.
To the Iraqi people, who still face massive challenges in rebuilding a society ripped apart by nearly nine years of war, Obama said: "You will not stand alone."
The U.S., in fact, needs the help of Iraq in dealing with the volatile Middle East and two of neighbors in particular, Iran and Syria. In getting out of Iraq, Obama emphasized that "our strong presence in the Middle East endures" and the U.S. won't soften in its defense of its interests.
In the midst of a re-election run, Obama is using the war's end to both honor the military's sacrifice and to remind the nation the unpopular war is ending on his watch. He is to deliver his war-is-over message in TV interviews today and then again on Wednesday in remarks to troops at Ft. Bragg, N.C.
Obama opposed the war from the start and eventually rode that stand to the White House.
On Monday, speaking as a commander in chief, Obama put the focus on Iraq's future.
"I think history will judge the original decision to go into Iraq," Obama said. What's clear, he added, is that because of the huge sacrifices by American soldiers and civilians and the courage of the Iraqi people, "we have now achieved an Iraq that is self-governing, that is inclusive and that has enormous potential."
Said al-Maliki: "Anyone who observes the nature of the relationship between the two countries will say that the relationship will not end with the departure of the last American soldier."
Otherwise...it's blessedly quiet this week. I think we'll leave it at that.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 13:50:01
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 13:50:01
Morning 
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 13:53:00
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 13:53:00
Hello!
Comment by 
TriSec on 12/13/2011 14:05:54
TriSec on 12/13/2011 14:05:54
Comment by 
Raine on 12/13/2011 14:24:14
good morning!
Raine on 12/13/2011 14:24:14
good morning!
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 14:36:04
I heard aboot that on the NPR moshine while I was eating my Honey Nut Cheerios this morning.
Aplinekat lays down some funky physics beats.
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 14:36:04
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
Say Mondo.....looky what's breaking news on the BBC today.
I heard aboot that on the NPR moshine while I was eating my Honey Nut Cheerios this morning.
Aplinekat lays down some funky physics beats.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 14:41:30
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 14:41:30
I was telling Mom the other day about how people can't be rejected for insurance because of pre-exisiting conditions now - her response "They probably make everyone pay more now" ugh 
Comment by 
Scoopster on 12/13/2011 14:46:44
Scoopster on 12/13/2011 14:46:44
Mornin' all.. 
I'm sooo tired today - was up late baking the first few batches of cookies.
I'm sooo tired today - was up late baking the first few batches of cookies.
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 14:54:09
Raine on 12/13/2011 14:54:09
This looks like very good news for Homeless vets-- there seems to be 12% less of them!
I'll be on the Nicole Sandler show this morning again. So I will talk to you here and there this morning!
I'll be on the Nicole Sandler show this morning again. So I will talk to you here and there this morning!
Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2011 14:56:57
TriSec on 12/13/2011 14:56:57
Hunting for the Higgs
Colliders fire particles
Einstein watches too.
See? Anything, I tell you!
<< I am the Haiku Bosun >>
Colliders fire particles
Einstein watches too.
See? Anything, I tell you!
<< I am the Haiku Bosun >>
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 15:22:07
Yes, but you have trashed the experiment, quantum physics-wise. Hiesenberg is very upset with you. Not to mention Schroedinger and his cat!
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 15:22:07
Quote by TriSec:
Hunting for the Higgs
Colliders fire particles
Einstein watches too.
See? Anything, I tell you!
<< I am the Haiku Bosun >>
Yes, but you have trashed the experiment, quantum physics-wise. Hiesenberg is very upset with you. Not to mention Schroedinger and his cat!
Comment by 
BobR on 12/13/2011 15:26:27
oh that flirty Higgs boson - always playing coy.
BobR on 12/13/2011 15:26:27
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
Say Mondo.....looky what's breaking news on the BBC today.
oh that flirty Higgs boson - always playing coy.
Comment by BobR on 12/13/2011 15:26:47
BobR on 12/13/2011 15:26:47
Quote by TriSec:
Hunting for the Higgs
Colliders fire particles
Einstein watches too.
See? Anything, I tell you!
<< I am the Haiku Bosun >>
Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2011 15:37:13
Listen, I can't wait for them to figure out the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle so that transporters can be invented. I am so personally coming to Jacksonville with a brick.
TriSec on 12/13/2011 15:37:13
Quote by Mondobubba:
Yes, but you have trashed the experiment, quantum physics-wise. Hiesenberg is very upset with you. Not to mention Schroedinger and his cat!
Listen, I can't wait for them to figure out the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle so that transporters can be invented. I am so personally coming to Jacksonville with a brick.
Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2011 15:39:07
TriSec on 12/13/2011 15:39:07
Besides, we all know the flying spaghetti monster affected the results with the touch of His Noodly Appendage.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 15:45:27
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 15:45:27
This hoo-ha and kurffle over "All-American Muslim" reminds me of something I would think about Islamaphobia when I was working at Merrill. On of my coworker was the nicest, kindest, most helpful person I worked with when I was there. She was also very pretty. So are these Jihadis going to undermind America with kind and pretty young women? Is that our weakness?
Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2011 15:46:57
TriSec on 12/13/2011 15:46:57
Ah, I've had similar experience with Sikhs. There was a guy on the IT staff...turban, beard and all. You would never find a kinder gentleman anywhere.
But because they wear a turban, they all get lumped together and stereotyped.
But because they wear a turban, they all get lumped together and stereotyped.
Comment by Scoopster on 12/13/2011 16:09:41
Scoopster on 12/13/2011 16:09:41
Oooh.. Democratic Underground redesigned their homepage
Comment by BobR on 12/13/2011 16:14:35
wow - welcome to the 21st century...
BobR on 12/13/2011 16:14:35
Quote by Scoopster:
Oooh.. Democratic Underground redesigned their homepage
wow - welcome to the 21st century...
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 16:39:42
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 16:39:42
why would fat people eat rats, Chris? Do you think all fat people eat them or just Rush?
Maybe I'm getting far too touchy about this but I'm really getting tired of the "fat" jokes.
Maybe I'm getting far too touchy about this but I'm really getting tired of the "fat" jokes.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 16:41:27
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 16:41:27
Really Jim? you too?
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 17:00:41
I've long maintained that if you take the rantings of say Michelle Geller and change out "Islam" for "communism," 'muslims" for "soviets/Russsians" you have essentially them same right wing script with different nouns for our "enemies."
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 17:00:41
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, I've had similar experience with Sikhs. There was a guy on the IT staff...turban, beard and all. You would never find a kinder gentleman anywhere.
But because they wear a turban, they all get lumped together and stereotyped.
I've long maintained that if you take the rantings of say Michelle Geller and change out "Islam" for "communism," 'muslims" for "soviets/Russsians" you have essentially them same right wing script with different nouns for our "enemies."
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 17:02:16
But that would just creat an exact copy of you in Jacksonville and anillate the real you in Waltham.
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 17:02:16
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Yes, but you have trashed the experiment, quantum physics-wise. Hiesenberg is very upset with you. Not to mention Schroedinger and his cat!
Listen, I can't wait for them to figure out the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle so that transporters can be invented. I am so personally coming to Jacksonville with a brick.
But that would just creat an exact copy of you in Jacksonville and anillate the real you in Waltham.
Comment by 
livingonli on 12/13/2011 17:06:04
livingonli on 12/13/2011 17:06:04
Good day everyone. Rush is such a miserable person that he deserves every insult hurled at him. If there is Karma payback, he will probably pop and explode from all his vitriol that he directs at people who don't share his backwards world view.
Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2011 17:17:08
livingonli on 12/13/2011 17:17:08
So, thanks to the right-wing blovating fear and hatred, apparently the Muslim reality show on TLC has been canned. At least they still don't want Sarah Palin back.
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 17:28:16
What is this all about?
(I was busy doing my Rick Perry imitation... )
Raine on 12/13/2011 17:28:16
Quote by wickedpam:
Really Jim? you too?
(I was busy doing my Rick Perry imitation... )
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 17:29:33
they redesigned everything -- This is going to take a lot of pains before it settles out.
Raine on 12/13/2011 17:29:33
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Oooh.. Democratic Underground redesigned their homepage
wow - welcome to the 21st century...
they redesigned everything -- This is going to take a lot of pains before it settles out.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 17:35:58
oh it was just the implication of Newt would be boyant cause he's fat
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 17:35:58
Quote by Raine:What is this all about?Quote by wickedpam:
Really Jim? you too?
(I was busy doing my Rick Perry imitation... )
oh it was just the implication of Newt would be boyant cause he's fat
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 17:39:17
IAhh.. It's one of the reasons that I like Hal Sparks -- he tends to have a rule that you don't make comedy out of a person's appearance.
Raine on 12/13/2011 17:39:17
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:What is this all about?Quote by wickedpam:
Really Jim? you too?
(I was busy doing my Rick Perry imitation... )
oh it was just the implication of Newt would be boyant cause he's fat
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 17:53:43
that pisses me off.
The flucking overbreeding Duggars are cool on TLC and not muslims?
Raine on 12/13/2011 17:53:43
Quote by livingonli:
So, thanks to the right-wing blovating fear and hatred, apparently the Muslim reality show on TLC has been canned. At least they still don't want Sarah Palin back.
The flucking overbreeding Duggars are cool on TLC and not muslims?
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 17:57:11
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 17:57:11
According to an exhaustive, 20 second google search, the show's not cancelled.
Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2011 18:09:15
livingonli on 12/13/2011 18:09:15
Looks like Thom better double check that
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 18:16:22
I like that too - sometimes people can't help who they look and its not fair to make then feel worse then they may already
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 18:16:22
Quote by Raine:IAhh.. It's one of the reasons that I like Hal Sparks -- he tends to have a rule that you don't make comedy out of a person's appearance.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:What is this all about?Quote by wickedpam:
Really Jim? you too?
(I was busy doing my Rick Perry imitation... )
oh it was just the implication of Newt would be boyant cause he's fat
I like that too - sometimes people can't help who they look and its not fair to make then feel worse then they may already
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 18:41:50
oooh.
Liv, did you get that from Thom??
Raine on 12/13/2011 18:41:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
According to an exhaustive, 20 second google search, the show's not cancelled.
oooh.
Liv, did you get that from Thom??
Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2011 18:55:19
I heard it on Thom when he was discussing the boycott. It's amazing how sloppy he can be with research sometimes.
livingonli on 12/13/2011 18:55:19
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
According to an exhaustive, 20 second google search, the show's not cancelled.
oooh.
Liv, did you get that from Thom??
I heard it on Thom when he was discussing the boycott. It's amazing how sloppy he can be with research sometimes.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 19:05:13
They aren't hurting for ad revenue. Rusell Simons bought all the ad time that Lowe's etc canceled.
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 19:05:13
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
According to an exhaustive, 20 second google search, the show's not cancelled.
oooh.
Liv, did you get that from Thom??
I heard it on Thom when he was discussing the boycott. It's amazing how sloppy he can be with research sometimes.
They aren't hurting for ad revenue. Rusell Simons bought all the ad time that Lowe's etc canceled.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 19:45:15
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 19:45:15
WTF! DUDE IT'S 2011! I have to explain to you how to use your freakin' Yahoo email?????? Please just kill me NOW!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 19:45:35
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 19:45:35
Stop saying "what not" you slack jawed mouth breather! ARGH!
Comment by Scoopster on 12/13/2011 19:56:40
Scoopster on 12/13/2011 19:56:40
Oh my.. My boss just walked in with a brand new heavy duty stand mixer and said "MERRY CHRISTMAS - NOW MAKE ME MORE COOKIES!" 
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 20:08:51
if its Kitchen Aid I'm jealous
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 20:08:51
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh my.. My boss just walked in with a brand new heavy duty stand mixer and said "MERRY CHRISTMAS - NOW MAKE ME MORE COOKIES!"
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
if its Kitchen Aid I'm jealous
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 20:13:13
me too! WOW!
Raine on 12/13/2011 20:13:13
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh my.. My boss just walked in with a brand new heavy duty stand mixer and said "MERRY CHRISTMAS - NOW MAKE ME MORE COOKIES!"
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
if its Kitchen Aid I'm jealous
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 20:25:10
Raine on 12/13/2011 20:25:10
so it is official... Trump fired himself... will not be moderating the debate! 
Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2011 20:28:02
TriSec on 12/13/2011 20:28:02
Ah, my Kitchen AId awaits the onslaught next week.
My problem is the attrition rate...vast amounts seem to break and fall in my mouth during the cooling process. (Hey, I need to sample each batch. A problem when the pizzele iron only makes two at a time.)
My problem is the attrition rate...vast amounts seem to break and fall in my mouth during the cooling process. (Hey, I need to sample each batch. A problem when the pizzele iron only makes two at a time.)
Comment by Scoopster on 12/13/2011 20:34:18
Yeah it is.. I was literally knocked over surprised when they came in with it. I've been trying to buy a used one off CL for weeks without anyone responding to emails, gave up waiting & started making dough by hand like I did last year!
Scoopster on 12/13/2011 20:34:18
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh my.. My boss just walked in with a brand new heavy duty stand mixer and said "MERRY CHRISTMAS - NOW MAKE ME MORE COOKIES!"
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
if its Kitchen Aid I'm jealous
me too! WOW!
Yeah it is.. I was literally knocked over surprised when they came in with it. I've been trying to buy a used one off CL for weeks without anyone responding to emails, gave up waiting & started making dough by hand like I did last year!
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 20:34:32
Raine on 12/13/2011 20:34:32
BTW, it appears Loews isn't the only group to pull advertisment. I am highly disappointed.
et tu subaru?
3M (Command, Scotchbrand tape)
Airborne Vitamin
Amway
Anheuser Busch Inbev (Select55)
Art Instruction Schools
Bamboozles
Bank of America (Cash Rewards)
Bare Escentuals
Brother International (Ptouch)
Campbell’s Soup
Capital One
Church & Dwight (Oxi Clean, Arm & Hammer)
City Furniture
Conagra (Hunt’s Diced Tomatoes)
Corinthian Colleges (Everest411)
Cotton, Inc.
Cumberland Packing (Sweet’N Low)
Dell Computers
Diamond Foods (Kettlebrand Chips)
Estee Lauder (Clinique)
ET Browe (Palmer’s Cocoa butter)
Gap
General Motors (Chevy Runs Deep)
Good Year
Green Mountain Coffee
Guthy Renker (Proactiv)
Hershey Kisses
Home Depot
Honda North America
HTC Phones
Ikea
JC Penney
JP Morgan Chase (Chase Sapphire)
Kayak.com, Kellogg (Special K)
Koa Brands (John Frieda)
Leapfrog Enterprise (Leapster Explorer)
Lowe’s
Mars (Dove Chocolate)
McDonald’s
Nationwide Insurance
News Corp
Nintendo
Novartis
Old Navy
Pernod Ricard
Petsmart
Pier One
Pfizer
Procter & Gamble
Progressive Insurance
Prudential Financial
Radio Shack
Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse
SC Johnson
Sears
Signet (Kay Jewelers)
Sonic Drive-ins
Subaru
HQ (uDraw)
T-Mobil
Toyota
Volkswagen
Vtech
Wal-Mart
Whirlpool
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 20:37:01
Raine on 12/13/2011 20:37:01
you know, what makes me really sick is that the Duggars are just hokey dokey for many of these advertisers.
It's really nauseating.
It's really nauseating.
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 20:37:56
Sounds like you have a pretty awesome boss, Scoop.
Raine on 12/13/2011 20:37:56
Quote by Scoopster:
Yeah it is.. I was literally knocked over surprised when they came in with it. I've been trying to buy a used one off CL for weeks without anyone responding to emails, gave up waiting & started making dough by hand like I did last year!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 20:39:38
dang and all I ever get is a random gift card - very nice boss, are they looking to open a Virginia office?
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 20:39:38
Quote by Raine:Sounds like you have a pretty awesome boss, Scoop.Quote by Scoopster:
Yeah it is.. I was literally knocked over surprised when they came in with it. I've been trying to buy a used one off CL for weeks without anyone responding to emails, gave up waiting & started making dough by hand like I did last year!
dang and all I ever get is a random gift card - very nice boss, are they looking to open a Virginia office?
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 20:51:46
Pussies!
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 20:51:46
Quote by Raine:
BTW, it appears Loews isn't the only group to pull advertisment. I am highly disappointed.et tu subaru?3M (Command, Scotchbrand tape)
Airborne Vitamin
Amway
Anheuser Busch Inbev (Select55)
Art Instruction Schools
Bamboozles
Bank of America (Cash Rewards)
Bare Escentuals
Brother International (Ptouch)
Campbell’s Soup
Capital One
Church & Dwight (Oxi Clean, Arm & Hammer)
City Furniture
Conagra (Hunt’s Diced Tomatoes)
Corinthian Colleges (Everest411)
Cotton, Inc.
Cumberland Packing (Sweet’N Low)
Dell Computers
Diamond Foods (Kettlebrand Chips)
Estee Lauder (Clinique)
ET Browe (Palmer’s Cocoa butter)
Gap
General Motors (Chevy Runs Deep)
Good Year
Green Mountain Coffee
Guthy Renker (Proactiv)
Hershey Kisses
Home Depot
Honda North America
HTC Phones
Ikea
JC Penney
JP Morgan Chase (Chase Sapphire)
Kayak.com, Kellogg (Special K)
Koa Brands (John Frieda)
Leapfrog Enterprise (Leapster Explorer)
Lowe’s
Mars (Dove Chocolate)
McDonald’s
Nationwide Insurance
News Corp
Nintendo
Novartis
Old Navy
Pernod Ricard
Petsmart
Pier One
Pfizer
Procter & Gamble
Progressive Insurance
Prudential Financial
Radio Shack
Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse
SC Johnson
Sears
Signet (Kay Jewelers)
Sonic Drive-ins
Subaru
HQ (uDraw)
T-Mobil
Toyota
Volkswagen
Vtech
Wal-Mart
Whirlpool
Pussies!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 20:53:54
LA Ink was cancelled. I can't say that I've watched this channel in a long while - heck I was an avid viewer of Trading Spaces back when they would show you how to do home projects on the cheap and fast
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 20:53:54
Quote by Raine:
here is a list of current shows on TLC
LA Ink was cancelled. I can't say that I've watched this channel in a long while - heck I was an avid viewer of Trading Spaces back when they would show you how to do home projects on the cheap and fast
Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2011 20:59:05
TriSec on 12/13/2011 20:59:05
The only one on the list I can *maybe* see pulling out is Anheiser-Busch. (Did we not do our homework about Muslims before the ad buy?)
Otherwise, screw 'em all.
Otherwise, screw 'em all.
Comment by Scoopster on 12/13/2011 21:00:15
Scoopster on 12/13/2011 21:00:15
My question is why would anyone WATCH any of these crap shows?!
(And yes, I automatically assume this new show that's getting all the buzz is CRAP too.)
(And yes, I automatically assume this new show that's getting all the buzz is CRAP too.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 21:12:58
The thing to keep in mind about this list as NPR pointed out this morning in example of Pernod, they didn't any time on this week's episode, which doesn't preclude them from buying ad time in another week.
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 21:12:58
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
BTW, it appears Loews isn't the only group to pull advertisment. I am highly disappointed.et tu subaru?3M (Command, Scotchbrand tape)
Airborne Vitamin
Amway
Anheuser Busch Inbev (Select55)
Art Instruction Schools
Bamboozles
Bank of America (Cash Rewards)
Bare Escentuals
Brother International (Ptouch)
Campbell’s Soup
Capital One
Church & Dwight (Oxi Clean, Arm & Hammer)
City Furniture
Conagra (Hunt’s Diced Tomatoes)
Corinthian Colleges (Everest411)
Cotton, Inc.
Cumberland Packing (Sweet’N Low)
Dell Computers
Diamond Foods (Kettlebrand Chips)
Estee Lauder (Clinique)
ET Browe (Palmer’s Cocoa butter)
Gap
General Motors (Chevy Runs Deep)
Good Year
Green Mountain Coffee
Guthy Renker (Proactiv)
Hershey Kisses
Home Depot
Honda North America
HTC Phones
Ikea
JC Penney
JP Morgan Chase (Chase Sapphire)
Kayak.com, Kellogg (Special K)
Koa Brands (John Frieda)
Leapfrog Enterprise (Leapster Explorer)
Lowe’s
Mars (Dove Chocolate)
McDonald’s
Nationwide Insurance
News Corp
Nintendo
Novartis
Old Navy
Pernod Ricard
Petsmart
Pier One
Pfizer
Procter & Gamble
Progressive Insurance
Prudential Financial
Radio Shack
Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse
SC Johnson
Sears
Signet (Kay Jewelers)
Sonic Drive-ins
Subaru
HQ (uDraw)
T-Mobil
Toyota
Volkswagen
Vtech
Wal-Mart
Whirlpool
Pussies!
The thing to keep in mind about this list as NPR pointed out this morning in example of Pernod, they didn't any time on this week's episode, which doesn't preclude them from buying ad time in another week.
Comment by BobR on 12/13/2011 21:26:48
Me three. One of those has been on my short list for a long time. They're so freakin' expensive.
BobR on 12/13/2011 21:26:48
Quote by Raine:me too! WOW!Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh my.. My boss just walked in with a brand new heavy duty stand mixer and said "MERRY CHRISTMAS - NOW MAKE ME MORE COOKIES!"
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
if its Kitchen Aid I'm jealous
Me three. One of those has been on my short list for a long time. They're so freakin' expensive.
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 21:28:46
I used to really enjoy trading spaces myself.
And to be honest, this show causing all the grief for Loews (or vice verse) actually looked like a good opportunity for some 'low information' Americans to understand that not all muslims are jihaddy terrists.
Raine on 12/13/2011 21:28:46
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
here is a list of current shows on TLC
LA Ink was cancelled. I can't say that I've watched this channel in a long while - heck I was an avid viewer of Trading Spaces back when they would show you how to do home projects on the cheap and fast
And to be honest, this show causing all the grief for Loews (or vice verse) actually looked like a good opportunity for some 'low information' Americans to understand that not all muslims are jihaddy terrists.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2011 21:32:00
cheapest I've seen one is 199 and that's just the mixer itself
wickedpam on 12/13/2011 21:32:00
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:me too! WOW!Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh my.. My boss just walked in with a brand new heavy duty stand mixer and said "MERRY CHRISTMAS - NOW MAKE ME MORE COOKIES!"
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
if its Kitchen Aid I'm jealous
Me three. One of those has been on my short list for a long time. They're so freakin' expensive.
cheapest I've seen one is 199 and that's just the mixer itself
Comment by Raine on 12/13/2011 21:39:36
Raine on 12/13/2011 21:39:36
This is a really messed up picture.
That is Zuccotti park, lit up for christmas... you see anything peculiar there? (besides it being empty.)
That is Zuccotti park, lit up for christmas... you see anything peculiar there? (besides it being empty.)
Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2011 21:44:25
livingonli on 12/13/2011 21:44:25
All those advertisers are a bunch of pussies. Some I am not surprised about and was already boycotting, but obviously American business feel that they have to pander to America's nutjobs.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 22:27:12
Oh those are the folks who were email bombing TLC and Lowe's.
Member my comments about switching commie ./ rooshen for islam / mooslum? Here is a handy dandy press release:
“The Learning Channel’s new show ‘All-American Muslim’ is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law,†stated an article that ran on the group’s web site in advance of the series’ November premiere. “The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish. One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated ‘I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it.’ … The show portrayed a Roman Catholic who converted to Muslim to marry. However, there was no mention of a Muslim who attempted to convert to Christianity which has resulted in a multitude of conflicts in America and abroad. Many woman were shown wearing hijabs and many who were not, but the program did not show what happens if one of the hijab-wearing women decides to take it off. Such conflicts would conflict with The Learning Channel’s agenda to inaccurately portray Muslims in America. There is no mention of the honor killing of Jessica Mokdad who lived not far from where this show was taped in Dearborn. The show fails to mention many Islamic believers’ demeaning treatment of women or great disdain for non-Muslims (infidels).
See what I am talking about?
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 22:27:12
Quote by Raine:I used to really enjoy trading spaces myself.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
here is a list of current shows on TLC
LA Ink was cancelled. I can't say that I've watched this channel in a long while - heck I was an avid viewer of Trading Spaces back when they would show you how to do home projects on the cheap and fast
And to be honest, this show causing all the grief for Loews (or vice verse) actually looked like a good opportunity for some 'low information' Americans to understand that not all muslims are jihaddy terrists.
Oh those are the folks who were email bombing TLC and Lowe's.
Member my comments about switching commie ./ rooshen for islam / mooslum? Here is a handy dandy press release:
“The Learning Channel’s new show ‘All-American Muslim’ is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law,†stated an article that ran on the group’s web site in advance of the series’ November premiere. “The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish. One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated ‘I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it.’ … The show portrayed a Roman Catholic who converted to Muslim to marry. However, there was no mention of a Muslim who attempted to convert to Christianity which has resulted in a multitude of conflicts in America and abroad. Many woman were shown wearing hijabs and many who were not, but the program did not show what happens if one of the hijab-wearing women decides to take it off. Such conflicts would conflict with The Learning Channel’s agenda to inaccurately portray Muslims in America. There is no mention of the honor killing of Jessica Mokdad who lived not far from where this show was taped in Dearborn. The show fails to mention many Islamic believers’ demeaning treatment of women or great disdain for non-Muslims (infidels).
See what I am talking about?
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 22:39:37
I've got one too, but I need to get a new bowl for it. It won't screw into the stand.
Mondobubba on 12/13/2011 22:39:37
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:me too! WOW!Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh my.. My boss just walked in with a brand new heavy duty stand mixer and said "MERRY CHRISTMAS - NOW MAKE ME MORE COOKIES!"
I have no idea how I'm gonna get this thing home.. it weighs a TON!
if its Kitchen Aid I'm jealous
Me three. One of those has been on my short list for a long time. They're so freakin' expensive.
cheapest I've seen one is 199 and that's just the mixer itself
I've got one too, but I need to get a new bowl for it. It won't screw into the stand.
Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2011 22:51:31
Thom Hartmann did suggest that if you replaced Muslim with Jew in the rantings of Peter King, Pamela Geller, etc. that you could get an idea of what it would sound like.
livingonli on 12/13/2011 22:51:31
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I used to really enjoy trading spaces myself.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
here is a list of current shows on TLC
LA Ink was cancelled. I can't say that I've watched this channel in a long while - heck I was an avid viewer of Trading Spaces back when they would show you how to do home projects on the cheap and fast
And to be honest, this show causing all the grief for Loews (or vice verse) actually looked like a good opportunity for some 'low information' Americans to understand that not all muslims are jihaddy terrists.
Oh those are the folks who were email bombing TLC and Lowe's.
Member my comments about switching commie ./ rooshen for islam / mooslum? Here is a handy dandy press release:
“The Learning Channel’s new show ‘All-American Muslim’ is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law,†stated an article that ran on the group’s web site in advance of the series’ November premiere. “The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish. One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated ‘I really am American. No ifs and or buts about it.’ … The show portrayed a Roman Catholic who converted to Muslim to marry. However, there was no mention of a Muslim who attempted to convert to Christianity which has resulted in a multitude of conflicts in America and abroad. Many woman were shown wearing hijabs and many who were not, but the program did not show what happens if one of the hijab-wearing women decides to take it off. Such conflicts would conflict with The Learning Channel’s agenda to inaccurately portray Muslims in America. There is no mention of the honor killing of Jessica Mokdad who lived not far from where this show was taped in Dearborn. The show fails to mention many Islamic believers’ demeaning treatment of women or great disdain for non-Muslims (infidels).
See what I am talking about?
Thom Hartmann did suggest that if you replaced Muslim with Jew in the rantings of Peter King, Pamela Geller, etc. that you could get an idea of what it would sound like.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/14/2011 01:01:56
Will in Chicago on 12/14/2011 01:01:56
Hi, everyone! I hope that everyone is doing well today.
I have been busy with family. My grandniece Emily Rose is still on a ventilator but is stable.
TriSec, thanks for a great blog. It is hard to believe that the war and occupation of Iraq went on for 9 years. So much for the promises of the Bush administration that this would be a cake walk and that Iraqi oil would pay for the expenses.
I have been busy with family. My grandniece Emily Rose is still on a ventilator but is stable.
TriSec, thanks for a great blog. It is hard to believe that the war and occupation of Iraq went on for 9 years. So much for the promises of the Bush administration that this would be a cake walk and that Iraqi oil would pay for the expenses.
Comment by BobR on 12/14/2011 01:38:48
welcome to the park... FROM JAIL!
this should explain the obscure pop-culture reference:
BobR on 12/14/2011 01:38:48
Quote by Raine:
This is a really messed up picture.
That is Zuccotti park, lit up for christmas... you see anything peculiar there? (besides it being empty.)
welcome to the park... FROM JAIL!
this should explain the obscure pop-culture reference: