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No friend of Progressives.
Author: Raine    Date: 01/05/2012 13:48:46

I am still crafting a blog for you this morning. Until then, I bring to you attention a very good blog written by Bob Cesca

This is a perfect article to reference when you come across a self proclaimed that touts Ron Paul as a more progressive choice for POTUS. Specifically this:
Along the way, progressives have taken notice of Ron Paul's positions on civil liberties and foreign policy. He's a non-interventionist, he's opposed to indefinite detention, he's opposed to the use of predator drones, he voted against the PATRIOT Act, he's against the war in Afghanistan, he's opposed to wiretaps without warrants, and so forth. All are positions that progressives rightfully hold dear, including me. Therefore, Paul appears to be "to the left" of President Obama in these specific areas, and so, consequently, progressives have been abandoning support for the president (many of them were never supporters in the first place, going back to the chaotic 2008 primaries) and shifting their support to Ron Paul.

Unfortunately, Paul's progressive supporters might not grasp that Paul's libertarianism, while informing some of his seemingly progressive views on foreign policy and the like, carries with it a significant load of horrendous and unacceptable baggage. Before I proceed further, let me be clear: I'm not pushing for some kind of ideological purity test, but Paul's views on a spectrum of other issues are so completely off the rails, especially relative to progressivism, that any progressive who's supporting Paul is basically forsaking his or her values in lieu of a sliver of overlap on a liberal/libertarian Venn diagram. Paul is a physician, so I'll employ a medical metaphor to explain. Imagine a surgeon attacking a cancerous tumor by firing a bazooka point-blank at the tumor. The surgeon might nail the tumor, but he's going to blast away everything around it, killing the patient.
I will be back shortly.
 

19 comments (Latest Comment: 01/05/2012 16:32:04 by Mondobubba)
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Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 14:01:28
I've never understood the political man-crush that some progessives/liberals have on the Congressman. He's a loon.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/05/2012 14:04:34
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 01/05/2012 14:08:40
Yeah like I"ll ever get to a Silver Spring meet up

Comment by Scoopster on 01/05/2012 14:09:06
Mornin' all..

He's very appealing on the surface. It's what you find when you really dig into the meanings behind what he believes that you find the veiled bigotry, beliefs based in greed and selfishness, and borderline conspiracy nuttiness. I won't say I don't disagree with him on some issues, however I do disagree on the reasoning he used to arrive at many of those positions.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/05/2012 14:25:42
Comment by TriSec on 01/05/2012 14:32:45
Morning, comrades!

Finally...Scouts get a celebrity endorser!


Kate, who was a Brownie as a child, will volunteer with younger members of the Scout Association primarily at groups based around her home but also in other areas when opportunities arise.

UK chief scout Bear Grylls said: "The duchess has an incredibly busy life, which makes it all the more inspiring that she has chosen to volunteer alongside us."


(side note - Bear Grylls is Chief Scout UK right now...but it's not always a celebrity. I was extraordinarily fortunate to have a Chief Scout UK visit my Cub Scout Pack a few years ago...through a family connection. His grandson was a member for 2 years whilst a family member lived in the area working on his doctorate.)

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 14:53:33
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

He's very appealing on the surface. It's what you find when you really dig into the meanings behind what he believes that you find the veiled bigotry, beliefs based in greed and selfishness, and borderline conspiracy nuttiness. I won't say I don't disagree with him on some issues, however I do disagree on the reasoning he used to arrive at many of those positions.



Maybe because I'm old and cranky, maybe becuase I find libertariamism in its broad array of froms to be a total pant-load on such a wide range of issues, I am just not a fan of the Congressman.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 15:04:08
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!

Finally...Scouts get a celebrity endorser!


Kate, who was a Brownie as a child, will volunteer with younger members of the Scout Association primarily at groups based around her home but also in other areas when opportunities arise.

UK chief scout Bear Grylls said: "The duchess has an incredibly busy life, which makes it all the more inspiring that she has chosen to volunteer alongside us."


(side note - Bear Grylls is Chief Scout UK right now...but it's not always a celebrity. I was extraordinarily fortunate to have a Chief Scout UK visit my Cub Scout Pack a few years ago...through a family connection. His grandson was a member for 2 years whilst a family member lived in the area working on his doctorate.)





Comment by TriSec on 01/05/2012 15:16:26
I'd like to know who fed HRH the line...

"Yes your Highness, it's only two hours a week. You'll also need to buy a shirt."



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 15:27:29
:mutter: Frickin Man City :mutter: :mutter: handed Liverpool its collective ass :mutter:

Comment by TriSec on 01/05/2012 15:48:05
Rachel's new buddy Mr. Steele is skittering across the ice here. *tapdance*


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 15:50:25
Quote by TriSec:
Rachel's new buddy Mr. Steele is skittering across the ice here. *tapdance*



Which Mr. Steele would that be?

Comment by TriSec on 01/05/2012 15:53:27
Michael Steele, the GOP guy. Talking about Santorum vs. Paul vs. Romney. He was all scrambly like a egg.


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 15:59:15
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/05/2012 15:59:35
Good morning, bloggers!!

In some respects, I think that we can find common ground with Ron Paul, but it is almost coincidence. He may arrive at some of the same positions as liberals, but it is from a very different process. I think that he is occasionally right, but there is a cliche about a broken clock that comes to mind.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 15:59:42
Quote by TriSec:
Michael Steele, the GOP guy. Talking about Santorum vs. Paul vs. Romney. He was all scrambly like a egg.



Like a dog on ice?

Comment by Raine on 01/05/2012 16:18:21
New Blog is up.

And as a result, I am exhausted. Please do take a read. I won't delete this blog, but I hope to see you over in Recess!

Comment by Scoopster on 01/05/2012 16:28:43
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Comment by Mondobubba on 01/05/2012 16:32:04
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