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Let Them Eat Cayman
Author: Raine    Date: 07/19/2012 13:14:32

This morning, wife of Presidential Nominee Mitt Romney appeared on Good Morning America. She was asked about the couples tax and promptly told the interviewer:
“We’ve given all you people need to know and understand about our financial situation and how we live our life,”

You People.

I guess we shouldn't be too surprised. This is the same woman who said earlier this year: “It’s Mitt’s time. It’s our turn now.”

You will recall I wrote a post regarding Romneys appearance and attitude at the NAACP convention. I stated:
Instead of trying to connect with the people of the organization and the civil rights work they do, he treated them like others. He talked down to the attendees. He wasn't building bridges - he wasn't trying to understand why people still are struggling for equality. He didn't even try to identify... He walked in that room and told them how it is going to be. It was incredibly arrogant, completely out of touch.
We see his wife has the same sort of condescending aura. That was one week ago - almost a lifetime in politics. Since that post, there has been mounting pressure on the candidate to release his tax returns. It's getting quite intense with even republican pundits and politicians calling for Mitt Romney to release these returns. Candidate Romney is doubling down on his refusal to release them.

Ryan Grim, reporter for the Huffington Post writes:
Mitt Romney has been determined to resist releasing his tax returns at least since his bid for Massachusetts governor in 2002 and has been confident that he will never be forced to do so, several current and former Bain executives tell The Huffington Post. Had he thought otherwise, say the sources based on their longtime understanding of Romney, he never would have gone forward with his run for president.
So if this report is indeed true, he would not have run. That is a stunning position. Think about this for a moment: We have a man, President Obama, currently in office who not only has made public his tax returns but he has been forced to prove to the country that he is indeed a citizen. On the other side of things we have Mitt Romney who is rather 'unenthusiastic' about releasing his tax returns. We have been told that we have all we need to know. It's quite a double-standard we have between President Obama and Mitt Romney, no? And then there is this doozy. Romney sat down for an interview with the National Review. He was asked a question about his Cayman Island businesses.
From a political perspective, a lot of pundits wonder why you haven’t gotten rid of your offshore accounts. Can you explain why you have not done that?

Well, first of all, all of my investments are managed in a blind trust. By virtue of that, the decisions made by the trustee are the decisions that determine where the investments are. Secondly, the so-called offshore account in the Cayman Islands, for instance, is an account established by a U.S. firm to allow foreign investors to invest in U.S. enterprises and not be subject to taxes outside of their own jurisdiction. So in many instances, the investments in something of that nature are brought back into the United States. The world of finance is not as simple as some would have you believe. Sometimes a foreign entity is formed to allow foreign investors to invest in the United States, which may well be the case with the entities that Democrats are describing as foreign accounts.
Read that over. First he says it's a blind trust, and then he tells us what is going on in those accounts. THEN he says that he's allowing foreign companies not to pay American taxes. Here's a better explanation:
"He's basically admitting here that the Bain funds are set up in the Cayman Islands to help people avoid tax," said Rebecca Wilkins, senior counsel for federal tax policy at Citizens for Tax Justice, a nonprofit tax reform group. "If you want to cheat on your taxes, boy, they're making it really easy."

Since the Cayman Islands do not report information on their investors' accounts to other nations, however, such sub-companies don't merely help foreign investors avoid U.S. taxes, they help investors avoid paying taxes in other nations, as well. The ploy can even help American taxpayers invest in U.S. companies without accruing a tax bill with the IRS. By establishing personal offshore entities, Americans can pose as foreign investors and avoid paying U.S. taxes on investments in American firms.

"Even a U.S. investor pretending to be a foreign investor, by using a Bermuda or Cayman Islands shell entity, can avoid U.S. tax this way," Wilkins told HuffPost. "And we know that's going on. We know that U.S. investors are evading taxes by pretending to be foreigners."
As far as his previous tax returns, that's all you people need to know, according to the Romneys.

Or is it? The article also states this: The ploy can even help American taxpayers invest in U.S. companies without accruing a tax bill with the IRS. By establishing personal offshore entities, Americans can pose as foreign investors and avoid paying U.S. taxes on investments in American firms.

No Ms. Romney, "US People" do not have all we need to know. Americans don't like being spoken down to and they don't really like to be deceived. Mitt and Ann Romney are doing both. Romney is on record saying "In the political environment that exists today, the opposition research of the Obama campaign is looking for anything they can use to distract from the failure of the president to reignite our economy. And I’m simply not enthusiastic about giving them hundreds or thousands of more pages to pick through, distort, and lie about." I'm not enthusiastic about it either, but it is becoming more and more clear that he and his wife need to release them. The longer they don't, the more out of touch and delusional they appear.

Unless they really ARE hiding some bad stuff -- perhaps a Swiss bank account with UBS? Well funny that.
Although Romney's campaign declined to comment for this article, in January, Brad Malt, the manager of Ann Romney's blind trust, told reporters the Romneys had an account with Swiss bank UBS worth about $3 million, which generated roughly $1,700 in interest. Malt said the account was set up for "diversification" in 2003 -- a claim that puzzles tax and investment experts, who note that all of the investment options available in Switzerland are available in American accounts. Malt said the account was closed in 2010.

But Romney would only have had to report offshore bank accounts that generated interest on his tax returns. Other accounts that simply executed transactions and forwarded the money along to U.S. accounts would not have to be reported on the tax return. They would, however, have to be listed on the FBAR form Romney has not released to the public.

That Romney's disclosed account was with Swiss bank UBS has also raised eyebrows. In 2008, a whistleblower at the bank informed the IRS of thousands of accounts being operated by American clients to avoid paying U.S. taxes. For Americans, the coveted Swiss secrecy suddenly became a legal liability.

So much information was turned over to the IRS that it would have been extremely difficult for the agency to pursue cases against every offender. So the IRS established a special tax amnesty program, which allowed those who voluntarily turned themselves in to remain anonymous and pay limited penalties. Thousands of citizens have since come forward.

No, they haven't given ANYONE all we need to know. I want to know if Mitt Romney avoided paying taxes to the country he claims to love. He loves his money more than his country -- and I would be fine with that if he went back to the private sector. That entitlement is welcome in their circle of the private sector. As long as he wants to run for the highest office in the land Americans have a right to know. The American electorate has a right to know if they are paying more in taxes so Mitt Romney can pay less -- if any at all.

and
Raine
 

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Comment by BobR on 07/19/2012 12:30:28
btw - this is another crazy conspiracy theory I wanted to put in yesterday's blog, but couldn't seem to find it when I was writing it.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/19/2012 12:37:59
Morning


You all know how much the term "you people" sets my teeth on edge. lord she's a bitch

Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2012 12:47:53
Good Morning.

You people is good eggs.



Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 12:55:33
"You people?" Does she even realize what a condesending, loaded term that is?

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 12:57:17
Comment by wickedpam on 07/19/2012 13:04:57
Quote by Mondobubba:
"You people?" Does she even realize what a condesending, loaded term that is?



this is the same woman who said "its our turn now", so I doubt very much she understands.

Comment by BobR on 07/19/2012 13:09:29

don't use "insert" and "force" in the same sentence please

Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2012 13:14:03
Just saw this today:


“Several current and former Bain executives” told them that Romney wouldn’t have run for president if he thought it meant releasing his tax returns, and that his personal preference, should doing so become politically necessary, might be to drop out.


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 13:21:46
Keeping in the Scifi/Comicbook theme, Rush has done it again. According to the bloated one, the villian in "The Dark Knight Rises," Bane is clearly an attack on Mitt Romney.

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 13:26:49
Please do take a look at a fuller more thought provoking Blog on the YOU PEOPLE comment.

I am really livid.

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 13:27:32
Quote by TriSec:
Good Morning.

You people is good eggs.


SEe, I like it when it's put like that.

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 13:28:07
Quote by TriSec:
Just saw this today:


“Several current and former Bain executives” told them that Romney wouldn’t have run for president if he thought it meant releasing his tax returns, and that his personal preference, should doing so become politically necessary, might be to drop out.
I used that link it today's blog....





Comment by wickedpam on 07/19/2012 13:35:27
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Good Morning.

You people is good eggs.


SEe, I like it when it's put like that.



a much nicer use of the "you people"

Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2012 13:37:15
Quote by Mondobubba:
Keeping in the Scifi/Comicbook theme, Rush has done it again. According to the bloated one, the villian in "The Dark Knight Rises," Bane is clearly an attack on Mitt Romney.


I saw that....there's also a "Cad Bane" (bounty hunter) in the Star Wars: The Clone Wars cannon. I don't think I ever made the connection that Rush did, but perhaps I'll watch next season with new eyes.
http://www.htmlforums.com/images/smilies/lightsabre.gif


Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2012 13:40:24
Oh, and can we get that emoticon on the list?

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 13:53:22
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, and can we get that emoticon on the list?
Sure!


Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 13:59:18
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Comment by BobR on 07/19/2012 14:05:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
Keeping in the Scifi/Comicbook theme, Rush has done it again. According to the bloated one, the villian in "The Dark Knight Rises," Bane is clearly an attack on Mitt Romney.



Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 14:26:46
Batman killed the blog? Schweet!

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 14:37:46
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Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 14:50:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Batman killed the blog? Schweet!
It seems like my blog killed the blog.




Comment by wickedpam on 07/19/2012 14:56:12
oh wow - Inside Nova - Zimmerman thread It looks like bullies have taken over the thread

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/19/2012 15:11:12
Good morning, bloggers!! Thanks for a great blog!

I think that Mitt Romney has a sense of entitlement. The irony is that he has not done much to build our economy. He is widely considered to have been a poor governor in Massachusetts who was mostly there so he could claim political credentials for a presidential run. (Note that Mister Romney does not ofter refer to his time as a governor.)

As for the character of Bane, he was created in 1993. The current film began production some years back. So, if the people involved in the Batman movies are this accurate at making predictions, people should invest money with them instead of Bain Capital.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 16:00:37
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Batman killed the blog? Schweet!
It seems like my blog killed the blog.





Not everybody reads as fast as I do. Pretty dense stuff, I am gonna have to read it again.

Comment by BobR on 07/19/2012 16:01:41
Quote by wickedpam:
oh wow - Inside Nova - Zimmerman thread It looks like bullies have taken over the thread

Put in my 2 cents.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 16:03:32
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Good morning, bloggers!! Thanks for a great blog!

I think that Mitt Romney has a sense of entitlement. The irony is that he has not done much to build our economy. He is widely considered to have been a poor governor in Massachusetts who was mostly there so he could claim political credentials for a presidential run. (Note that Mister Romney does not ofter refer to his time as a governor.)

As for the character of Bane, he was created in 1993. The current film began production some years back. So, if the people involved in the Batman movies are this accurate at making predictions, people should invest money with them instead of Bain Capital.



About the Bane thing. It is that wily Obama using his time travel ability to go back to 1993 and influence the fine folks at DC Comics to insert a character called Bane to influence voters in 2012. He used the same time travel ability to plant that fake birth certificate in the database of birth records in Hawai'i.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/19/2012 16:09:13
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh wow - Inside Nova - Zimmerman thread It looks like bullies have taken over the thread

Put in my 2 cents.



thanks - feels like 3 or 4 people were shoving everyone else around in the mosh pit

Comment by TriSec on 07/19/2012 16:40:39
Just passing through again....we're headed out to Worcester in a few, going to visit my comrades at Fallon. There's likely some ice cream in our future, too.

TTFN!


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 17:04:12
Newt's deleted Tweet about Snooki


You read that right. Stop blinking.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/19/2012 17:32:56
oh - just heard Dot Marie got an Emmy nod this morning! Ya Coach!

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 18:05:24
Quote by wickedpam:
oh - just heard Dot Marie got an Emmy nod this morning! Ya Coach!
YAY!


Comment by wickedpam on 07/19/2012 18:06:03
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh wow - Inside Nova - Zimmerman thread It looks like bullies have taken over the thread

Put in my 2 cents.



thanks - feels like 3 or 4 people were shoving everyone else around in the mosh pit



btw that brad guy - kinda of a dick

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 18:06:11
Quote by Mondobubba:
Newt's deleted Tweet about Snooki


You read that right. Stop blinking.
That isall kinds of awesome.



Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 18:13:04
BTW R&B looks like y'all had a fab time at da Bay.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 18:22:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Newt's deleted Tweet about Snooki


You read that right. Stop blinking.
That isall kinds of awesome.




Isn't it?! Newt getting all excited about Snooki and zoos and animals.

Comment by Raine on 07/19/2012 18:36:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
BTW R&B looks like y'all had a fab time at da Bay.
We did! Afterwards we took LaNiece to Annapolis. She liked the Navy boys, fersure...


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 18:41:03
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
BTW R&B looks like y'all had a fab time at da Bay.
We did! Afterwards we took LaNiece to Annapolis. She liked the Navy boys, fersure...



Oh who doesn't? They are so cute.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/19/2012 18:56:02
Hmm I missed this. Yesterday was the 149th anniversary of the Battle of Fort Wagner. You know you've seen the movie...

Comment by clintster on 07/20/2012 01:07:41
So I've been without internet for most of the day, and when I come back on, I see this:

Tom Davis, Al Franken's partner on SNL, has passed away.

Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2012 02:17:46
Finally could pop on the blog today. I actually had a day shift today since I came in at 11:30 AM to do the O's-Twins game on MASN2. At least it only went a half-hour over, but we did have a visit from the head honcho at MASN who was observing the activity in our rooms which also kept me largely off line which meant I couldn't be here and you may have also noticed my absence from the facecrack most of the day as well.