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Author: Raine    Date: 07/23/2012 12:54:20

Still trying to come up with some words this morning.

It's strange waking up knowing that it is only me and Bobber in the house. First time in a long time that has happened.

Waiting for the NCAA announcement regarding the Penn State scandal. Carry on, I shall return.
 

61 comments (Latest Comment: 07/24/2012 05:11:18 by clintster)
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Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 13:04:53
Morning

Do you have empty nest syndrome this morning

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 13:15:01
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

Do you have empty nest syndrome this morning
A little bit.

Niece messaged me and said it was weird not talking to me and Bobber.


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 13:17:09
Morning!

Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 13:18:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

Do you have empty nest syndrome this morning
A little bit.

Niece messaged me and said it was weird not talking to me and Bobber.



aww - too bad she wasn't able to stay a little longer



Comment by TriSec on 07/23/2012 13:18:52
Morning, folks.

I must be getting soft. My right-wing friend brought up Chappaquiddick on Facebook, and instead of immediately washing my hands of him and de-friending (as is my usual policy), I have given him a pass.

I did get a chance to meet Joe Kennedy yesterday at a local campaign event, so he had to make a snide comment about it.

*sigh*



Comment by clintster on 07/23/2012 13:26:37
Well, it's come down from the NCAA:

$60 million in fines
NO post-season appearances for the next four years
Every PSU win 1998-2011 vacated

It's not a "death penalty" but it's pretty damn close.

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 13:32:50
Quote by clintster:
Well, it's come down from the NCAA:

$60 million in fines
NO post-season appearances for the next four years
Every PSU win 1998-2011 vacated

It's not a "death penalty" but it's pretty damn close.
I think this is appropriate. 5 year probation, possible formal charges for individuals, the NCAA is going to appoint a monitor.

Also, players can transfer without penalty.


Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 13:33:53
Quote by clintster:
Well, it's come down from the NCAA:

$60 million in fines
NO post-season appearances for the next four years
Every PSU win 1998-2011 vacated

It's not a "death penalty" but it's pretty damn close.


admittedly I know nothing of the NCAA or college football or football in general - so I have questions - what are "post-season appearances"? How can the NCAA fine a school when they didn't break any actual rules? And doesn't this really punish the students who played and won those games?


Comment by clintster on 07/23/2012 13:37:19
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by clintster:
Well, it's come down from the NCAA:

$60 million in fines
NO post-season appearances for the next four years
Every PSU win 1998-2011 vacated

It's not a "death penalty" but it's pretty damn close.


admittedly I know nothing of the NCAA or college football or football in general - so I have questions - what are "post-season appearances"? How can the NCAA fine a school when they didn't break any actual rules? And doesn't this really punish the students who played and won those games?


Well, post-season appearances refers to the bowl games that are played in December and January ie the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, etc.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 13:39:09
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by clintster:
Well, it's come down from the NCAA:

$60 million in fines
NO post-season appearances for the next four years
Every PSU win 1998-2011 vacated

It's not a "death penalty" but it's pretty damn close.



admittedly I know nothing of the NCAA or college football or football in general - so I have questions - what are "post-season appearances"? How can the NCAA fine a school when they didn't break any actual rules? And doesn't this really punish the students who played and won those games?



Bowl games.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 13:40:42
Quote by clintster:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by clintster:
Well, it's come down from the NCAA:

$60 million in fines
NO post-season appearances for the next four years
Every PSU win 1998-2011 vacated

It's not a "death penalty" but it's pretty damn close.


admittedly I know nothing of the NCAA or college football or football in general - so I have questions - what are "post-season appearances"? How can the NCAA fine a school when they didn't break any actual rules? And doesn't this really punish the students who played and won those games?


Well, post-season appearances refers to the bowl games that are played in December and January ie the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, etc.


but doesn't that then punish players who aren't even at the school yet?

Don't get me wrong I'm no advocate for college sports, in fact I think there is too much attention paid to them, but I worry about students who get there on sports scholarship who wouldn't otherwise be able to go to a college like PS being punished for things that weren't their fault.

Does that make sense or am I over thinking this?


Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 13:46:50
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by clintster:
Well, it's come down from the NCAA:

$60 million in fines
NO post-season appearances for the next four years
Every PSU win 1998-2011 vacated

It's not a "death penalty" but it's pretty damn close.


admittedly I know nothing of the NCAA or college football or football in general - so I have questions - what are "post-season appearances"? How can the NCAA fine a school when they didn't break any actual rules? And doesn't this really punish the students who played and won those games?
the NCAA is an association that colleges can be a part of. Therefore those schools need to follow guidelines set by the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

Post season are Bowl games. The NCAA can fine the school for not adhering to said guidelines.

I feel badly for the kids, I do, but I think this was appropriate in light of what the officials covered up at the school. Kids still at the school can play, those that graduated already did play.



Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 13:49:15
Quote by wickedpam:

but doesn't that then punish players who aren't even at the school yet?

Don't get me wrong I'm no advocate for college sports, in fact I think there is too much attention paid to them, but I worry about students who get there on sports scholarship who wouldn't otherwise be able to go to a college like PS being punished for things that weren't their fault.

Does that make sense or am I over thinking this?
Yes, it does. It takes away the Glory of Penn State. I believe rightfully so. What happened there might not have been the fault of the students, but it was the culture of the administration and therfore the school that allowed this to happen.

That is why players can transfer without penalty.


Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 13:51:03
There are still scholarships, and kids can still play -- so basically -- what this does is neuter their stronghold in the NCAA. They aren't competitive like they were, but kids can still get a good education.



Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 13:58:16
ok, I see what you saying, I just didn't want kids (well young adults) to get penalized for something they that they didn't even know was going on

Comment by clintster on 07/23/2012 13:59:26
Listening to Cordele talking about his inability to post something about gun control on FB without being attacked. I had a somewhat similar situation Friday. A friend of mine posted some boilerplate about how no-gun zones didn't work at Virginia Tech, Appalachian Law School, etc. I reacted and basically read him the riot act about posting something like that while people were still cleaning blood from the theater. He responded by criticizing me for using the Lord's name in vain and saying "we'll just have to agree to disagree".



Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 14:03:20
Quote by clintster:
Listening to Cordele talking about his inability to post something about gun control on FB without being attacked. I had a somewhat similar situation Friday. A friend of mine posted some boilerplate about how no-gun zones didn't work at Virginia Tech, Appalachian Law School, etc. I reacted and basically read him the riot act about posting something like that while people were still cleaning blood from the theater. He responded by criticizing me for using the Lord's name in vain and saying "we'll just have to agree to disagree".



I hate that cop out phrase as much as I hate "it is what it is"


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 14:07:35
re:

Sinus headache.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 14:16:36
Yes, that happens in VA gun shows

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 14:21:09
Quote by clintster:
Listening to Cordele talking about his inability to post something about gun control on FB without being attacked. I had a somewhat similar situation Friday. A friend of mine posted some boilerplate about how no-gun zones didn't work at Virginia Tech, Appalachian Law School, etc. I reacted and basically read him the riot act about posting something like that while people were still cleaning blood from the theater. He responded by criticizing me for using the Lord's name in vain and saying "we'll just have to agree to disagree".

I have been very fortunate wrt to this issue on my FB page.


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 14:29:40
Quote by clintster:
Listening to Cordele talking about his inability to post something about gun control on FB without being attacked. I had a somewhat similar situation Friday. A friend of mine posted some boilerplate about how no-gun zones didn't work at Virginia Tech, Appalachian Law School, etc. I reacted and basically read him the riot act about posting something like that while people were still cleaning blood from the theater. He responded by criticizing me for using the Lord's name in vain and saying "we'll just have to agree to disagree".




I hate to say it, but what a douche.

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 14:41:49
Comment by TriSec on 07/23/2012 14:45:19
Quote by Raine:
Tri: No Chik Fil A for you


I knew this. I have never tasted any of their products, nor do I have any desire to. We have also stopped calling Domino's for pretty much the same reasons. (Never mined that it tastes like ass-wiped cardboard.) There's much better local chicken and pizza, anyway.




Comment by Scoopster on 07/23/2012 14:45:20
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee..

Well, it was bound to happen eventually. I've known for a while I suffer from sleep apnea and have been meaning to get it professionaly diagnosed & treated, but I have this nasty habit of procrastinating. Anyways, in combination with the allergy meds I've been taking in abundance lately it's starting to affect my work. My boss has caught me narcoleptic at my desk several times. Thankfully he's the most awesome boss ever and my work ethic is really good, so his only reprimand was to demand that I see a doctor ASAP.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 14:50:39
Quote by Raine:
Tri: No Chik Fil A for you



I was willing to overlook the policy of Chik Fil A, I liked a Jesus chicken sammich from time to time. Now, not so much. Off my list.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 14:51:46
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Raine:
Tri: No Chik Fil A for you


I knew this. I have never tasted any of their products, nor do I have any desire to. We have also stopped calling Domino's for pretty much the same reasons. (Never mined that it tastes like ass-wiped cardboard.) There's much better local chicken and pizza, anyway.




As the loconic Down Easterns would say, a-yup.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 15:00:25
The thing to remember is that Tom Monahan no longer owns the company for years. When he did own it, we stopped ordering from them for the same reasons as clan TriSec. Now the only reason not order from them is the ass-wiped cardboard one. I likee that phrase, Mr Sec.

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 15:10:52
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee..

Well, it was bound to happen eventually. I've known for a while I suffer from sleep apnea and have been meaning to get it professionaly diagnosed & treated, but I have this nasty habit of procrastinating. Anyways, in combination with the allergy meds I've been taking in abundance lately it's starting to affect my work. My boss has caught me narcoleptic at my desk several times. Thankfully he's the most awesome boss ever and my work ethic is really good, so his only reprimand was to demand that I see a doctor ASAP.
Oh, you do have a wonderful employer, Scoop.

I am glad that you are going to take care of this.


Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 15:19:04
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 15:19:36
It should be noted that the whole of NYS has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 15:32:00
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Raine:
Tri: No Chik Fil A for you


I knew this. I have never tasted any of their products, nor do I have any desire to. We have also stopped calling Domino's for pretty much the same reasons. (Never mined that it tastes like ass-wiped cardboard.) There's much better local chicken and pizza, anyway.





Good morning, bloggers!

I much prefer local food to the major chains. I can't recall if I ate anything from Chick-Fil-A when I was in Phoenix.

I am starting late today as my niece and her kids are over. So, I had breakfast dishes.

In the job hunt news, no word form Massachusetts but there are several weeks before the start of school out there. If I have to move quickly, I can.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 15:45:30
BREAKING NEWS ON PENN STATE from the Huffington Post:

NCAA Hits Penn State With $60 Million Fine, Postseason Ban, Loss Of Scholarships And Wins

AP/The Huffington Post | Posted: 07/23/2012 9:18 am Updated: 07/23/2012 11:35 am
One day after the statue of Joe Paterno was removed from outside of Beaver Stadium on the Penn State campus, NCAA President Mark Emmert announced sanctions resulting from the football program's role in the sexual abuse scandal involving former defensive coach Jerry Sandusky. On Sunday, the NCAA announced its intention to implement "corrective and punitive measures" against Penn State.

On Monday, Emmert presided over a press conference in Indianapolis and revealed sanctions, including a hefty fine, a postseason ban, and loss of scholarships and previous wins.

"Football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people," Emmert said during a press conference that lasted approximately 45 minutes.

Penn State Punishments:

$60 million fine, representing approximately one year of football revenues. These funds will go to child sex abuse awareness programs.

4-year bowl game ban.

Scholarship reduction, cap lasting four years.

Any entering, returning football student athlete can transfer immediately. Presuming academic requirements are met, these potential transfers can play immediately.

PSU vacates all wins from 1998-2011. The loss of 111 career wins drops Joe Paterno from atop the all-time wins list to 12th.

PSU begins a five-year probationary period, with the NCAA reserving the right to implement further punishments.




Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 15:54:47
Quote by Raine:
It should be noted that the whole of NYS has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation.



Like!

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 15:56:45



Boo friggin hoo.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 16:12:12
Mike Papantonio is in for Ed Schultz today.

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 16:13:53
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Mike Papantonio is in for Ed Schultz today.

Does anyone know what is going on with Ed's wife?

Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 16:21:06
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Mike Papantonio is in for Ed Schultz today.

Does anyone know what is going on with Ed's wife?



not sure, all I heard Friday was family emergency. Hope she's okay

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 17:10:27
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Mike Papantonio is in for Ed Schultz today.

Does anyone know what is going on with Ed's wife?



not sure, all I heard Friday was family emergency. Hope she's okay



I had not heard anything. I hope that all will be well.


Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2012 17:32:59
Good day, folks. Day off but I might have to run out to try and find something in storage (and there's a lot of crap in storage) so wish me luck. I have been hitting the wall with my expenses this month. The 4-year long money situation has now reached the point that I had to cash in a pension plan (and take the early penalties as well) in order to finally declare bankruptcy so that I can finally get everything behind me. I kept hoping I would come up with the money to finally do it but it seemed like I just squeaked by the last few years but this year, it has gotten worse due to the loss of overtime and the creditor suits against me piling up that I am not able to even make my bills again. I should be getting my money in early August but I have to figure out what to do until then since I am tapped out until that date and when I get paid, I will be lucky just to get what I need done.

Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2012 17:50:23
I just heard Pap say he is filling in the whole week. Ed must have a real emergency situation which means Michael Eric Dyson will probably be doing the TV show for the duration.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 18:05:48
Quote by livingonli:
I just heard Pap say he is filling in the whole week. Ed must have a real emergency situation which means Michael Eric Dyson will probably be doing the TV show for the duration.



This is not good news for Wendy Schultz, Ed's wife. I met them once at a WCPT event -- nice couple.

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 18:13:52
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by livingonli:
I just heard Pap say he is filling in the whole week. Ed must have a real emergency situation which means Michael Eric Dyson will probably be doing the TV show for the duration.



This is not good news for Wendy Schultz, Ed's wife. I met them once at a WCPT event -- nice couple.
I am thinking the same thing, Will. I haven't heard any news on them.


Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 18:32:14
As we could use some good news, Kenny Pick just posted this on Facebook:

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: The Friday edition of Turn Up The Night with Kenny Pick will be rebroadcast on WVKO 1580 AM in Columbus, OH every Sunday from 5-8PM ET. We're truly excited to join the WVKO family & extend our gratitude to Michael Alwood and the rest of the staff at Columbus' Progressive Talk! Huzzah! http://www.wvko1580.com/
Home

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 18:50:56
Current customer is religous

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 19:02:12
Listen to what I am telling you, Jesus freak. Follow each step.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 19:06:54
Quote by Mondobubba:
Listen to what I am telling you, Jesus freak. Follow each step.


um - is she like preaching at you or something?


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 19:07:46
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Listen to what I am telling you, Jesus freak. Follow each step.


um - is she like preaching at you or something?



No, just not listening

Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 19:17:20
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Listen to what I am telling you, Jesus freak. Follow each step.


um - is she like preaching at you or something?



No, just not listening


so why "Jesus-freak"? I can see deaf harpy or listening impaired shrew. Cause you know I would be a kinda low key Jesus freak too


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 19:54:13
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Listen to what I am telling you, Jesus freak. Follow each step.


um - is she like preaching at you or something?


No, just not listening


so why "Jesus-freak"? I can see deaf harpy or listening impaired shrew. Cause you know I would be a kinda low key Jesus freak too



Biblical prophecy website than I MUST VISIT.

Comment by BobR on 07/23/2012 20:05:04
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Day off but I might have to run out to try and find something in storage (and there's a lot of crap in storage) so wish me luck. I have been hitting the wall with my expenses this month. The 4-year long money situation has now reached the point that I had to cash in a pension plan (and take the early penalties as well) in order to finally declare bankruptcy so that I can finally get everything behind me. I kept hoping I would come up with the money to finally do it but it seemed like I just squeaked by the last few years but this year, it has gotten worse due to the loss of overtime and the creditor suits against me piling up that I am not able to even make my bills again. I should be getting my money in early August but I have to figure out what to do until then since I am tapped out until that date and when I get paid, I will be lucky just to get what I need done.

So sorry to hear about this Livin... I hope this gets you past your problems and back on track.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/23/2012 20:08:29
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Listen to what I am telling you, Jesus freak. Follow each step.


um - is she like preaching at you or something?


No, just not listening


so why "Jesus-freak"? I can see deaf harpy or listening impaired shrew. Cause you know I would be a kinda low key Jesus freak too



Biblical prophecy website than I MUST VISIT.



ah

Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 21:07:59
Quote by BobR:
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Day off but I might have to run out to try and find something in storage (and there's a lot of crap in storage) so wish me luck. I have been hitting the wall with my expenses this month. The 4-year long money situation has now reached the point that I had to cash in a pension plan (and take the early penalties as well) in order to finally declare bankruptcy so that I can finally get everything behind me. I kept hoping I would come up with the money to finally do it but it seemed like I just squeaked by the last few years but this year, it has gotten worse due to the loss of overtime and the creditor suits against me piling up that I am not able to even make my bills again. I should be getting my money in early August but I have to figure out what to do until then since I am tapped out until that date and when I get paid, I will be lucky just to get what I need done.

So sorry to hear about this Livin... I hope this gets you past your problems and back on track.
Same here, Liv. I think this might give you a good reset to get things moving again.






Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 21:21:53
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Day off but I might have to run out to try and find something in storage (and there's a lot of crap in storage) so wish me luck. I have been hitting the wall with my expenses this month. The 4-year long money situation has now reached the point that I had to cash in a pension plan (and take the early penalties as well) in order to finally declare bankruptcy so that I can finally get everything behind me. I kept hoping I would come up with the money to finally do it but it seemed like I just squeaked by the last few years but this year, it has gotten worse due to the loss of overtime and the creditor suits against me piling up that I am not able to even make my bills again. I should be getting my money in early August but I have to figure out what to do until then since I am tapped out until that date and when I get paid, I will be lucky just to get what I need done.



Hang in there, Liv! We all have times when things are rough.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 21:27:46
Well, in the news, it turns out that the austerity policies favored by conservatives are helping some people -- the very wealthy. Here are some details from the Huffington Post.

Austerity's Big Winners Prove To Be Wall Street And The Wealthy
Zach Carter

ASHINGTON -- The poor and middle classes have shouldered by far the heaviest burdens of the global political obsession with austerity policies over the past three years. In the United States, budget cuts have forced states to reduce education, public transportation, affordable housing and other social services. In Europe, welfare cuts have driven some severely disabled individuals to fear for their lives.

But the austerity game also has winners. Cutting or eliminating government programs that benefit the less advantaged has long been an ideological goal of conservatives. Doing so also generates a tidy windfall for the corporate class, as government services are privatized and savings from austerity pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest citizens.

U.S. financial interests that stand to gain from Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security cutbacks "have been the core of the big con," the "propaganda," that those programs are in crisis and must be slashed, said James Galbraith, an economist at the University of Texas.


Comment by Raine on 07/23/2012 22:00:25
RIP Sally Ride.

The first woman and the youngest American to enter space.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/23/2012 22:07:52
Here is the ABC News story on the passing of America's first female astronaut, Sally Ride. May her life continue to inspire others. Ad astra per aspera.

Sally Ride Dead; First American Woman in Space Was 61




Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2012 22:19:21
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Here is the ABC News story on the passing of America's first female astronaut, Sally Ride. May her life continue to inspire others. Ad astra per aspera.

Sally Ride Dead; First American Woman in Space Was 61







Comment by TriSec on 07/23/2012 22:24:16
Jeez, I go offline all afternoon and this happens.

And aboard Challenger, no less.



Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2012 23:53:43
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Day off but I might have to run out to try and find something in storage (and there's a lot of crap in storage) so wish me luck. I have been hitting the wall with my expenses this month. The 4-year long money situation has now reached the point that I had to cash in a pension plan (and take the early penalties as well) in order to finally declare bankruptcy so that I can finally get everything behind me. I kept hoping I would come up with the money to finally do it but it seemed like I just squeaked by the last few years but this year, it has gotten worse due to the loss of overtime and the creditor suits against me piling up that I am not able to even make my bills again. I should be getting my money in early August but I have to figure out what to do until then since I am tapped out until that date and when I get paid, I will be lucky just to get what I need done.

So sorry to hear about this Livin... I hope this gets you past your problems and back on track.
Same here, Liv. I think this might give you a good reset to get things moving again.





Thanks for the vibe folks. I hope once I get this money (and it's an early pension withdrawal so I also have the tax penalty to face when I file next year although I think I have some of it coming out upfront which will help) and can get the bankruptcy filing done and some of the penalties I'm already facing withdrawn then at least I will be able to live on what I make and have some extra money in case of an emergency.

Comment by clintster on 07/24/2012 05:11:18
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Here is the ABC News story on the passing of America's first female astronaut, Sally Ride. May her life continue to inspire others. Ad astra per aspera.

Sally Ride Dead; First American Woman in Space Was 61



I was there at the Cape in '83 when she rode on STS-7. It was a dream come true for me, because I had never seen a shuttle launch live before. The noise of it was something you had to experience for yourself, but it was exhilarating. I never knew about her partnerr until today (I suspect most didn't), but I can say in full geeky awareness that I once wanted to be Mr. Dr. Sally Ride.