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My mom shared this on FB. and uhm....
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Me after listening
oh dear.
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we are getting robo-called like crazy! Family Research robopolled on Sat asking if we thought our religious freedom was being taken away cause of marriage equality.
Quote by Raine:Is it true that one can't robocall a cell phone?Quote by wickedpam:
we are getting robo-called like crazy! Family Research robopolled on Sat asking if we thought our religious freedom was being taken away cause of marriage equality.
I got a Romney MAiler the other day, I was like how did they get my address and why in the name of all things would they think for one minute that I would EVER consider voting for him?
I know that wehad a romney canvasser show up a few weeks ago, and Bob told them he would not in any shape or form support Romney -- and they asked about me, he said the same -- so maybe they decided not to listen to him and mailed me this anyway.
It's really annoying.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Is it true that one can't robocall a cell phone?Quote by wickedpam:
we are getting robo-called like crazy! Family Research robopolled on Sat asking if we thought our religious freedom was being taken away cause of marriage equality.
I got a Romney MAiler the other day, I was like how did they get my address and why in the name of all things would they think for one minute that I would EVER consider voting for him?
I know that wehad a romney canvasser show up a few weeks ago, and Bob told them he would not in any shape or form support Romney -- and they asked about me, he said the same -- so maybe they decided not to listen to him and mailed me this anyway.
It's really annoying.
not sure about that when it comes to Celly's. I know on a land line they can cause its not a technical sales call.
We're getting flooded with mailers - all in mom's name which is weird cause she's a registered Dem and voted for Obama AND keeps telling them when they call that she's voting for Obama. Our speculation is its because she's over 65.
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Is it true that one can't robocall a cell phone?Quote by wickedpam:
we are getting robo-called like crazy! Family Research robopolled on Sat asking if we thought our religious freedom was being taken away cause of marriage equality.
I got a Romney MAiler the other day, I was like how did they get my address and why in the name of all things would they think for one minute that I would EVER consider voting for him?
I know that wehad a romney canvasser show up a few weeks ago, and Bob told them he would not in any shape or form support Romney -- and they asked about me, he said the same -- so maybe they decided not to listen to him and mailed me this anyway.
It's really annoying.
not sure about that when it comes to Celly's. I know on a land line they can cause its not a technical sales call.
We're getting flooded with mailers - all in mom's name which is weird cause she's a registered Dem and voted for Obama AND keeps telling them when they call that she's voting for Obama. Our speculation is its because she's over 65.
BTW, Strategic Allied consulting is the ONLY new voter and absentee ballot registration firm that the GOP of Virginia has used.
So....
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the Morgan Freeman ad is just wonderful!
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the Morgan Freeman ad is just wonderful!
Well, he's God after all
Dear Mr. Eaton:
I am writing to you today to relate a disturbing occurrence during a recent Troop popcorn Show & Sell.
On Sunday, October 14, my troop set up our table and popcorn display at the Shaw’s Supermarket at 535 Trapelo Road in Belmont, MA. Sales were admittedly slow, but I attribute that more to the rain that morning and lack of foot traffic at our particular location.
Unfortunately, during the sale, I had several refusals from potential customers, and when asked, they pointedly made reference to our national membership policy and stated point-blank that they could no longer support Scouting because of this.
I do know that we have a non-discrimination policy dating to 2001, and that we were one of the first four councils nationwide to do so, but I don’t believe that is enough anymore. There needs to be publicity and outreach, no matter what the risk to our local program.
At this time, by the mere act of wearing the uniform, it would seem that it identifies us as members of a hate group that are fostering intolerance and discrimination, no matter what our local policies are. It is regrettable, but National has so poisoned the scouting program with their position, that it is starting to affect our recruiting and fundraising efforts. Two years ago, I had a genuine shouting match with a prospective parent over National Policy at a public school recruiting event while in full uniform, which I admit was not my proudest moment as a Scouter.
I am particularly dismayed that I had to have a talk with my young scouts yesterday (aged 11-13) about gays, atheists, national policy, and what to do if anyone refuses on these grounds. I was fully prepared to respectfully confront any balked sale on these grounds, but once they refused, any potential customer was no longer interested in discussing the matter.
I know you told us at the Scout Summit back in August that National was “not interested†in listening to our position. This too is unfortunate, and further illustrates the disconnect that the policy makers have with the folks in the trenches.
Simply put, discussions about sexual orientation and religious intolerance have no place in a Scouting program. They never have, and never should be. Unfortunately, because of national policy, I am now forced to have discussions about these things with underage boys, something I am very uncomfortable about doing. Is this the kind of Scouting program National Leadership wants us to administer?
I am now considering whether or not my Pack should participate in any further Council fundraising events, if this is the kind of public reaction we are going to face. I am not in this program to support this policy; in fact, it runs counter to everything that I have learned and known as a scout and scouter. I simply do not want my Cub Scouts to have to face this kind of rejection and stigma because of what National is doing.
But isn’t that what it comes down to? It would seem to be all about the money. While I have no information on how much money National receives from our council popcorn sale, this could possibly be used to leverage our position. I know it would hurt the council, but what would the repercussions be if Boston Minuteman chose not to participate in Popcorn Sales next year? There must be other ways to raise funds that would not expose the boys to all the things I have listed in this letter. I know we can make this up with local fundraisers for the Pack and Troop, but bleeding council dry won’t help us in the long run.
Finally, I’d like to tell you just a little bit about my Scouting background. I’ve been involved with my local unit for fifteen years now, which is an unusually long length of time for anyone to stay in a Cub Scout program. My son has just graduated to the Troop after earning his Arrrow of Light last year. But this is a second Scouting life for me. I became a member of this organization in the fall of 1974 at the age of eight. I have never been out of uniform.
What National is doing is killing me; their policy runs counter to everything I have tried to impart to the youth I have had the privilege of training over the last quarter-century. If this is the direction that National leadership wants for the Boy Scouts, I have to seriously question how long I can remain involved. This is simply not who I am, and not what I teach to my Scouts. I cannot in clear conscience continue to do this, if this is what we are to become.
Finally, I wonder if anyone has ever asked National Leadership how the current membership policy is in compliance with the Scout Law? I’m not even worried about the more obvious points like Kind, Friendly, or Loyal. If our organization is no longer Trustworthy with potential members and supporters, then all is lost.
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Presented in its entirety. Mr. Chuck Eaton is our Council President and CEO.
Dear Mr. Eaton:
I am writing to you today to relate a disturbing occurrence during a recent Troop popcorn Show & Sell.
On Sunday, October 14, my troop set up our table and popcorn display at the Shaw’s Supermarket at 535 Trapelo Road in Belmont, MA. Sales were admittedly slow, but I attribute that more to the rain that morning and lack of foot traffic at our particular location.
Unfortunately, during the sale, I had several refusals from potential customers, and when asked, they pointedly made reference to our national membership policy and stated point-blank that they could no longer support Scouting because of this.
I do know that we have a non-discrimination policy dating to 2001, and that we were one of the first four councils nationwide to do so, but I don’t believe that is enough anymore. There needs to be publicity and outreach, no matter what the risk to our local program.
At this time, by the mere act of wearing the uniform, it would seem that it identifies us as members of a hate group that are fostering intolerance and discrimination, no matter what our local policies are. It is regrettable, but National has so poisoned the scouting program with their position, that it is starting to affect our recruiting and fundraising efforts. Two years ago, I had a genuine shouting match with a prospective parent over National Policy at a public school recruiting event while in full uniform, which I admit was not my proudest moment as a Scouter.
I am particularly dismayed that I had to have a talk with my young scouts yesterday (aged 11-13) about gays, atheists, national policy, and what to do if anyone refuses on these grounds. I was fully prepared to respectfully confront any balked sale on these grounds, but once they refused, any potential customer was no longer interested in discussing the matter.
I know you told us at the Scout Summit back in August that National was “not interested†in listening to our position. This too is unfortunate, and further illustrates the disconnect that the policy makers have with the folks in the trenches.
Simply put, discussions about sexual orientation and religious intolerance have no place in a Scouting program. They never have, and never should be. Unfortunately, because of national policy, I am now forced to have discussions about these things with underage boys, something I am very uncomfortable about doing. Is this the kind of Scouting program National Leadership wants us to administer?
I am now considering whether or not my Pack should participate in any further Council fundraising events, if this is the kind of public reaction we are going to face. I am not in this program to support this policy; in fact, it runs counter to everything that I have learned and known as a scout and scouter. I simply do not want my Cub Scouts to have to face this kind of rejection and stigma because of what National is doing.
But isn’t that what it comes down to? It would seem to be all about the money. While I have no information on how much money National receives from our council popcorn sale, this could possibly be used to leverage our position. I know it would hurt the council, but what would the repercussions be if Boston Minuteman chose not to participate in Popcorn Sales next year? There must be other ways to raise funds that would not expose the boys to all the things I have listed in this letter. I know we can make this up with local fundraisers for the Pack and Troop, but bleeding council dry won’t help us in the long run.
Finally, I’d like to tell you just a little bit about my Scouting background. I’ve been involved with my local unit for fifteen years now, which is an unusually long length of time for anyone to stay in a Cub Scout program. My son has just graduated to the Troop after earning his Arrrow of Light last year. But this is a second Scouting life for me. I became a member of this organization in the fall of 1974 at the age of eight. I have never been out of uniform.
What National is doing is killing me; their policy runs counter to everything I have tried to impart to the youth I have had the privilege of training over the last quarter-century. If this is the direction that National leadership wants for the Boy Scouts, I have to seriously question how long I can remain involved. This is simply not who I am, and not what I teach to my Scouts. I cannot in clear conscience continue to do this, if this is what we are to become.
Finally, I wonder if anyone has ever asked National Leadership how the current membership policy is in compliance with the Scout Law? I’m not even worried about the more obvious points like Kind, Friendly, or Loyal. If our organization is no longer Trustworthy with potential members and supporters, then all is lost.
I would urge all of you to seek out your local Boy Scout Council and start peppering the executive emails with similar letters of support for overturning the policy. (I can help put you in touch with the right people, if anyone wants to.)
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Mondo, I'll tolerate a lot of things in Scouting, but when you start affecting my Scouts, then all bets are off.
This is wrong. Always has been wrong. Always will be wrong. I can't support this anymore if people are looking at 8-year-olds in a Cub Scout uniform and are thinking "Homophobes-in-training".
Quote by TriSec:
Mondo, I'll tolerate a lot of things in Scouting, but when you start affecting my Scouts, then all bets are off.
This is wrong. Always has been wrong. Always will be wrong. I can't support this anymore if people are looking at 8-year-olds in a Cub Scout uniform and are thinking "Homophobes-in-training".
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I am amazed at the difficulty she had to go thru to get a drivers license RENEWED. When I moved here to Virginia I had no ID whatsover. (My wallet was lost just a few weeks after moving here) I had to provide my BC, proof of residency (a bill) and my Social Sec card. I brought my Marriage license just in case, but they told me it wasn't needed.
It does raise serious question as to how difficult state governments are making it just for a BASIC identification -- voting not withstanding.
Thanks for a great blog today, Clint.
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I am amazed at the difficulty she had to go thru to get a drivers license RENEWED. When I moved here to Virginia I had no ID whatsover. (My wallet was lost just a few weeks after moving here) I had to provide my BC, proof of residency (a bill) and my Social Sec card. I brought my Marriage license just in case, but they told me it wasn't needed.
It does raise serious question as to how difficult state governments are making it just for a BASIC identification -- voting not withstanding.
Thanks for a great blog today, Clint.
That's because you kept your maiden name.
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I am amazed at the difficulty she had to go thru to get a drivers license RENEWED. When I moved here to Virginia I had no ID whatsover. (My wallet was lost just a few weeks after moving here) I had to provide my BC, proof of residency (a bill) and my Social Sec card. I brought my Marriage license just in case, but they told me it wasn't needed.
It does raise serious question as to how difficult state governments are making it just for a BASIC identification -- voting not withstanding.
Thanks for a great blog today, Clint.
That's because you kept your maiden name.
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its so sketchy - even if its technically legal
Quote by Raine:You have no idea...Quote by wickedpam:
its so sketchy - even if its technically legal
well, I think you do, but take a read here.
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I have good news!! I have a job interview for an English teacher position tomorrow at a Chicago Public High School tomorrow at 9 AM my time. It is not the best school in the city, but I think that I can make a difference.
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I have good news!! I have a job interview for an English teacher position tomorrow at a Chicago Public High School tomorrow at 9 AM my time. It is not the best school in the city, but I think that I can make a difference.
Congrats Will! I'm hoping to hear back today about a teaching position in Georgia.
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by clintster:Quote by Will in Chicago:
I have good news!! I have a job interview for an English teacher position tomorrow at a Chicago Public High School tomorrow at 9 AM my time. It is not the best school in the city, but I think that I can make a difference.
Congrats Will! I'm hoping to hear back today about a teaching position in Georgia.
It may mean that we both end up not being here much in the morning, but jobs for both of us would be great news.
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by clintster:Quote by Will in Chicago:
I have good news!! I have a job interview for an English teacher position tomorrow at a Chicago Public High School tomorrow at 9 AM my time. It is not the best school in the city, but I think that I can make a difference.
Congrats Will! I'm hoping to hear back today about a teaching position in Georgia.
It may mean that we both end up not being here much in the morning, but jobs for both of us would be great news.
Quote by BobR:Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by clintster:Quote by Will in Chicago:
I have good news!! I have a job interview for an English teacher position tomorrow at a Chicago Public High School tomorrow at 9 AM my time. It is not the best school in the city, but I think that I can make a difference.
Congrats Will! I'm hoping to hear back today about a teaching position in Georgia.
It may mean that we both end up not being here much in the morning, but jobs for both of us would be great news.
I think I speak for all of us when I say we would much rather you have jobs than have you posting here in the morning unemployed.
Quote by Raine:I would be willing to not see you two wonderful men if it meant you both doing what you are meant to do: TEACH!Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by clintster:Quote by Will in Chicago:
I have good news!! I have a job interview for an English teacher position tomorrow at a Chicago Public High School tomorrow at 9 AM my time. It is not the best school in the city, but I think that I can make a difference.
Congrats Will! I'm hoping to hear back today about a teaching position in Georgia.
It may mean that we both end up not being here much in the morning, but jobs for both of us would be great news.
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Ouch.
The non snark version is even worse, IMO.
All I Really Need to Know About Paul Ryan I Learned from this Soup Kitchen Photo Op
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Ouch.
The non snark version is even worse, IMO.
All I Really Need to Know About Paul Ryan I Learned from this Soup Kitchen Photo Op
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Ouch.
The non snark version is even worse, IMO.
All I Really Need to Know About Paul Ryan I Learned from this Soup Kitchen Photo Op
read the comments - hysterical
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Ouch.
The non snark version is even worse, IMO.
All I Really Need to Know About Paul Ryan I Learned from this Soup Kitchen Photo Op
read the comments - hysterical
This is pretty damning. I think that Ryan and Romney have a grave authenticity problem.
Quote by wickedpam:
Anyone who's ever worked in any kind of commercial kitchen knows that when washing dishes -
1) you don't wear jewelry or watches
2) you don't wear nice clothes (we used to have to add bleach to the wash water)
3) you don't wear anything with long sleeve cause they'll get soaked