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The Common Good
Author: BobR
Date: 01/09/2013 13:54:18
We face a lot of problems in our country. There's poverty, gun violence, racism, a dysfunctional Congress... and a media that breathlessly keeps the pot stirred up. There's a lot of fear because fear sells. Fear of not having enough money, of the shame of not being able to keep up with the neighbors, fear of "the others" with different skin tones or fashion choices or accents, fear of not getting reelected...
As Americans, we (and I am using "we" loosely here) balk at the changes that would help us. The Cold War has so ingrained a distrust of a powerful government, we label anything that helps us which is government-based as "socialism". We want government to leave us alone to live our lives. We value our freedoms to the point of detriment, to the point of nose-spiting-face. We point to the first Amendment to allow verbal bullying, we point to the 10th amendment to disallow federal programs.
And there are some among us that point to the 2nd Amendment to justify possessing as many weapons and of any variety as they desire. As was said on TV last night, they want it, they can afford it, so the government better not keep them from getting it.
The Constitution is an amazing document in its simplicity. It lays down a framework for how the government should operate, and - for the most part - leaves the specific laws to be created later, outside of the document itself. It has been amended over time, but even with it's amendments, it is still wonderfully concise.
What's interesting is that it's the amendments that are so oft-quoted. Rarely do we hear those seeking to justify their actions or self-interests quote the body of the document. Of particular note is the "mission statement" of the document, that which describes the very reason for creating the Constitution in the first place. I am speaking of course of the Preamble:
There are certain factions among us who always seem focused on the "justics" and "common defense", and seem to be almost antagonistic towards the "domestic tranquility" and "general welfare". They invoke the names of Stalin and Marx and the "nanny state" as if a totalitarian dictatorship is the only possible outcome when the government actually does provide for the common welfare of its people, while conveniently ignoring the successes of the rest of the civilized world. They promote more guns as the solution to gun violence, ignoring the evidence to the contrary.
It was our most famous nanny-stater of all President Franklin D. Roosevelt who distilled the goals of the Constitution (and - yes - the amendments) down to an essential Four Freedoms (and which was eloquently paraphrased by our own TriSec as our Mission Statement) in his 1941 State of the Union speech:
We understand the Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion. But it's the Freedom from Want and Freedom from Fear with which we struggle. Ideology often trumps practicality and - in some cases - common sense. Poor people rail against taxes on the rich. Are they hoping to be rich some day? Do they think the rich will smile down on them and bequeath a shiny coin? This strikes at both of these freedoms. Gun advocates and media and terrorist-spotters use fear to push their ideas and make money. It is selfish and detrimental to the country. It is self-destructive to create fear to promote a system which perpetuates want.
Sadly, our country has bought its own hype, and put personal liberty (and the fear of losing it) ahead of the Common Good. We are not the loose collection of states, we are not the aggregation of individuals, we are the United States of America. We were created to ensure we were all watching each other's backs (per Franklin's "Join or Die" snake illustration). Our very Constitution advocates Freedom from Fear and Freedom from Want ("domestic tranquility" and "general welfare"), yet there are those who consider these notions unAmerican. What is it going to take to get the collective citizenry to care as much about the country as a whole as they do about themselves?
As Americans, we (and I am using "we" loosely here) balk at the changes that would help us. The Cold War has so ingrained a distrust of a powerful government, we label anything that helps us which is government-based as "socialism". We want government to leave us alone to live our lives. We value our freedoms to the point of detriment, to the point of nose-spiting-face. We point to the first Amendment to allow verbal bullying, we point to the 10th amendment to disallow federal programs.
And there are some among us that point to the 2nd Amendment to justify possessing as many weapons and of any variety as they desire. As was said on TV last night, they want it, they can afford it, so the government better not keep them from getting it.
The Constitution is an amazing document in its simplicity. It lays down a framework for how the government should operate, and - for the most part - leaves the specific laws to be created later, outside of the document itself. It has been amended over time, but even with it's amendments, it is still wonderfully concise.
What's interesting is that it's the amendments that are so oft-quoted. Rarely do we hear those seeking to justify their actions or self-interests quote the body of the document. Of particular note is the "mission statement" of the document, that which describes the very reason for creating the Constitution in the first place. I am speaking of course of the Preamble:
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
There are certain factions among us who always seem focused on the "justics" and "common defense", and seem to be almost antagonistic towards the "domestic tranquility" and "general welfare". They invoke the names of Stalin and Marx and the "nanny state" as if a totalitarian dictatorship is the only possible outcome when the government actually does provide for the common welfare of its people, while conveniently ignoring the successes of the rest of the civilized world. They promote more guns as the solution to gun violence, ignoring the evidence to the contrary.
It was our most famous nanny-stater of all President Franklin D. Roosevelt who distilled the goals of the Constitution (and - yes - the amendments) down to an essential Four Freedoms (and which was eloquently paraphrased by our own TriSec as our Mission Statement) in his 1941 State of the Union speech:
In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms. The first is freedom of speech and expression—everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way—everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want—which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants—everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear—which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor—anywhere in the world. That is no vision of a distant millennium. It is a definite basis for a kind of world attainable in our own time and generation. That kind of world is the very antithesis of the so-called new order of tyranny which the dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb...
We understand the Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion. But it's the Freedom from Want and Freedom from Fear with which we struggle. Ideology often trumps practicality and - in some cases - common sense. Poor people rail against taxes on the rich. Are they hoping to be rich some day? Do they think the rich will smile down on them and bequeath a shiny coin? This strikes at both of these freedoms. Gun advocates and media and terrorist-spotters use fear to push their ideas and make money. It is selfish and detrimental to the country. It is self-destructive to create fear to promote a system which perpetuates want.
Sadly, our country has bought its own hype, and put personal liberty (and the fear of losing it) ahead of the Common Good. We are not the loose collection of states, we are not the aggregation of individuals, we are the United States of America. We were created to ensure we were all watching each other's backs (per Franklin's "Join or Die" snake illustration). Our very Constitution advocates Freedom from Fear and Freedom from Want ("domestic tranquility" and "general welfare"), yet there are those who consider these notions unAmerican. What is it going to take to get the collective citizenry to care as much about the country as a whole as they do about themselves?
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Comment by 
Scoopster on 01/09/2013 14:08:01
Scoopster on 01/09/2013 14:08:01
First! 
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/09/2013 14:09:08
TriSec on 01/09/2013 14:09:08
The Late Shelby Foote distilled it down to the United States "are" vs. the United States "Is".
It took a civil war to forge that final union and change of attitude...we are a diverse collection of states, but the United States "is" allegedly a unified nation.
Under the now-discredited Articles of Federation, The United States "Are" a loose confederation of semi-autonomous states.
I wrote about this before myself...I think this is what the Tea Party wants to "take America back" to.
(I'll have to find that blog.)
It took a civil war to forge that final union and change of attitude...we are a diverse collection of states, but the United States "is" allegedly a unified nation.
Under the now-discredited Articles of Federation, The United States "Are" a loose confederation of semi-autonomous states.
I wrote about this before myself...I think this is what the Tea Party wants to "take America back" to.
(I'll have to find that blog.)
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 14:12:13
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 14:12:13
Morning 
Comment by 
Raine on 01/09/2013 14:21:16
Raine on 01/09/2013 14:21:16
Really well stated BobR.
Good Morning
Good Morning
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 14:53:29
Raine on 01/09/2013 14:53:29
and now for some levity:
A woman walks into a bank in New York City and asks for the Loan officer. She says she's going to Europe on business for two weeks and Needs to borrow $5,000.
The bank officer says the bank will need some kind of security for the loan, so the she hands over the keys to a new Mercedes Benz SL 500.
The car is parked on the street in front of the bank, she has the title and everything checks out. The bank agrees to accept the car collateral for the loan.
The bank's president and its officers all enjoy a good laugh at the blond for using a $110,000 Benz as collateral against a $5,000 loan. An employee of the bank then proceeds to drive the Benz into the bank's underground garage and parks it there. Two weeks later, the woman returns, repays the $5,000 and the interest, which comes to $15.41.
The loan officer says, "Miss, we are very happy to have had your business, and this transaction has worked out very nicely, but we are a little puzzled. While you were away, we checked you out and found that you are a multimillionaire.
What puzzles us is, why would you bother to borrow $5,000?"
The woman replies, "Where else in New York City can I park my Car for two weeks for only $15.41 and expect it to be there when I return?"
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 14:53:52
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 14:53:52
Noisy frakkin housemate banging around and leaving lights on that shine under my door in the middle of the frakkin' night! 
He almost got the Wrath of Mondo!
He almost got the Wrath of Mondo!
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 14:57:50
See? That's why you need an assault rifle....
TriSec on 01/09/2013 14:57:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
Noisy frakkin housemate banging around and leaving lights on that shine under my door in the middle of the frakkin' night!
He almost got the Wrath of Mondo!
See? That's why you need an assault rifle....
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:03:30
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:03:30
Quote by Raine:
and now for some levity:A woman walks into a bank in New York City and asks for the Loan officer. She says she's going to Europe on business for two weeks and Needs to borrow $5,000.
The bank officer says the bank will need some kind of security for the loan, so the she hands over the keys to a new Mercedes Benz SL 500.
The car is parked on the street in front of the bank, she has the title and everything checks out. The bank agrees to accept the car collateral for the loan.
The bank's president and its officers all enjoy a good laugh at the blond for using a $110,000 Benz as collateral against a $5,000 loan. An employee of the bank then proceeds to drive the Benz into the bank's underground garage and parks it there. Two weeks later, the woman returns, repays the $5,000 and the interest, which comes to $15.41.
The loan officer says, "Miss, we are very happy to have had your business, and this transaction has worked out very nicely, but we are a little puzzled. While you were away, we checked you out and found that you are a multimillionaire.
What puzzles us is, why would you bother to borrow $5,000?"
The woman replies, "Where else in New York City can I park my Car for two weeks for only $15.41 and expect it to be there when I return?"
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 15:03:56
TriSec on 01/09/2013 15:03:56
Ah, Salada Green Tea this morning.
Only I can't tell if this is "before" (bright green leaves) or "after" (bright green mold).
Only I can't tell if this is "before" (bright green leaves) or "after" (bright green mold).
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 15:11:46
trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 15:11:46
There was a party here last night. The fridge was full of Italian dishes.
Didn't need to bring a lunch. Guess I can bring it back tonight.
Didn't need to bring a lunch. Guess I can bring it back tonight.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:14:00
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:14:00
Lady, I know you a minister and all, but a for fuck's sake with you stop being an asshole? Please.
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 15:16:52
TriSec on 01/09/2013 15:16:52
Watch out - I have all the "MLB Drugs" in me today. I'm completely wired.
Won't have Roid Rage, at least until I get behind the wheel, but you may want to consider hiding the children, small dogs, and kittehs, looking pretty tasty right now.
Won't have Roid Rage, at least until I get behind the wheel, but you may want to consider hiding the children, small dogs, and kittehs, looking pretty tasty right now.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:27:31
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:27:31
shut up shane 
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:29:20
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:29:20
Our IT department is a mess! This is the 2nd time in month that virus has infected the network. Same virus at that. Hello, server level anti-virus software? Heard of it?
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 15:29:35
TriSec on 01/09/2013 15:29:35
Oh, my train of thought has derailed in spectacular fashion today. Think I took out a freakin' bridge.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:33:37
Alrighty then, Rogance Clemstrong.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:33:37
Quote by TriSec:
Watch out - I have all the "MLB Drugs" in me today. I'm completely wired.
Won't have Roid Rage, at least until I get behind the wheel, but you may want to consider hiding the children, small dogs, and kittehs, looking pretty tasty right now.
Alrighty then, Rogance Clemstrong.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:35:27
I feel your pain good sir. I am working on about half normal amount of sleep. I am very foggy.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:35:27
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, my train of thought has derailed in spectacular fashion today. Think I took out a freakin' bridge.
I feel your pain good sir. I am working on about half normal amount of sleep. I am very foggy.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 15:36:26
was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?
Raine on 01/09/2013 15:36:26
Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:39:35
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:39:35
Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:39:38
Is he spending his honeymoon in a ditch, on fire?
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:39:38
Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
Is he spending his honeymoon in a ditch, on fire?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:40:31
What about the title character in the classic western?
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:40:31
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
What about the title character in the classic western?
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:44:35
I vaguely remember the book - wasn't really one I paid that close attention to. I think about the time we read Shane I was reading Trixie Belden books
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:44:35
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
What about the title character in the classic western?
I vaguely remember the book - wasn't really one I paid that close attention to. I think about the time we read Shane I was reading Trixie Belden books
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 15:48:16
Raine on 01/09/2013 15:48:16
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 15:51:15
Who do you mean? Shame? The guy who tied Batman and Robin to the ground to be stampeded by a herd of cattle?
trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 15:51:15
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
What about the title character in the classic western?
Who do you mean? Shame? The guy who tied Batman and Robin to the ground to be stampeded by a herd of cattle?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:53:45
Shane
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 15:53:45
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
What about the title character in the classic western?
I vaguely remember the book - wasn't really one I paid that close attention to. I think about the time we read Shane I was reading Trixie Belden books
Shane
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 15:56:34
Raine on 01/09/2013 15:56:34
Birthers want to impeach Chief Justice Roberts...
I say go for it! Would love for Obama to pick a new justice!
I say go for it! Would love for Obama to pick a new justice!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:58:31
yeah, westerns not my thing - not even a fan of Oklahoma
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 15:58:31
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
What about the title character in the classic western?
I vaguely remember the book - wasn't really one I paid that close attention to. I think about the time we read Shane I was reading Trixie Belden books
Shane
yeah, westerns not my thing - not even a fan of Oklahoma
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 16:01:40
TriSec on 01/09/2013 16:01:40
Westerns, thpthp. ( no offence intended for fans here, just not for me. Think the last one I saw was "Unforgiven", which was actually alright.)
Don't like the "classic" Westerns...it's kinda like country music to me. Very formulaic - seen one, you've seen 'em all.
*doges tumbleweeds*
Don't like the "classic" Westerns...it's kinda like country music to me. Very formulaic - seen one, you've seen 'em all.
*doges tumbleweeds*
Comment by 
clintster on 01/09/2013 16:04:40
WHAT? That musical is a cultural touchstone. It established the modern Broadway musical style. It... it... it is such a... omigod Pammer. I... I need a drink.
(sitting in a corner with a bottle of Two Buck Chuck rocking slowly and crying)
clintster on 01/09/2013 16:04:40
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
What about the title character in the classic western?
I vaguely remember the book - wasn't really one I paid that close attention to. I think about the time we read Shane I was reading Trixie Belden books
Shane
yeah, westerns not my thing - not even a fan of Oklahoma
WHAT? That musical is a cultural touchstone. It established the modern Broadway musical style. It... it... it is such a... omigod Pammer. I... I need a drink.(sitting in a corner with a bottle of Two Buck Chuck rocking slowly and crying)
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:10:00
I so prefer Chorus Line, Chicago and Into the Woods.
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:10:00
Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:was that the rambly guy who went out in blaze of Hitler glory?Quote by wickedpam:
shut up shane
yep
side note - every Shane I've ever known, heard, met, seen on TV, read about in books - kind of a dick
What about the title character in the classic western?
I vaguely remember the book - wasn't really one I paid that close attention to. I think about the time we read Shane I was reading Trixie Belden books
Shane
yeah, westerns not my thing - not even a fan of Oklahoma
(sitting in a corner with a bottle of Two Buck Chuck rocking slowly and crying)
I so prefer Chorus Line, Chicago and Into the Woods.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:10:09
trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:10:09
The WB cartoons in the tunnel area have been replaced by bRuins highlights.....meh.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:12:46
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:12:46
If anyone is interested I think there are tickets available for the 47% Ball - it's out in Chantilly and only $150 a ticket which includes a dinner.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:12:59
trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:12:59
Listening to Alex Jones' meltdown suggests to me we may have another Breitbart in the making.
Comment by clintster on 01/09/2013 16:17:01
Oh he's taken it one step beyond; Jones was convinced Michael Bloomberg was planning to murder him Monday after the show.
clintster on 01/09/2013 16:17:01
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Listening to Alex Jones' meltdown suggests to me we may have another Breitbart in the making.
Oh he's taken it one step beyond; Jones was convinced Michael Bloomberg was planning to murder him Monday after the show.
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 16:19:06
TriSec on 01/09/2013 16:19:06
Listening to TRMS...seems like the rape thing has bubbled up again.
Ya know, I looked at "Rape" on wikipedia recently. While there are many different kinds of assault listed, "Legitimate Rape" didn't seem to be out there.
Ya know, I looked at "Rape" on wikipedia recently. While there are many different kinds of assault listed, "Legitimate Rape" didn't seem to be out there.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 16:34:19
Bring it, wingnuts! Bring it!
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 16:34:19
Quote by Raine:
Birthers want to impeach Chief Justice Roberts...
I say go for it! Would love for Obama to pick a new justice!
Bring it, wingnuts! Bring it!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:34:38
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:34:38
So about alex jones....
he dissects an episode of the Squidbillies... starts about 4:50
well that settles it!
he dissects an episode of the Squidbillies... starts about 4:50
well that settles it!
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/09/2013 16:37:37
livingonli on 01/09/2013 16:37:37
Good morning, folks. In order to watch or listen to Alex Jones, a tinfoil hat is a prerequisite. At least I was able to get up for the last hour of Momma today unlike yesterday when I crashed.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:40:38
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:40:38
oh lawd not Mary
Comment by clintster on 01/09/2013 16:40:55
MY... BRAIN... HURTS.
Seriously, I made it through about 4 minutes about that before I had to shut it off. Headed for the decontamination shower.
clintster on 01/09/2013 16:40:55
Quote by Raine:
So about alex jones....
he dissects an episode of the Squidbillies... starts about 4:50
MY... BRAIN... HURTS.
Seriously, I made it through about 4 minutes about that before I had to shut it off. Headed for the decontamination shower.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:42:04
That's why I said it started at 4:50... but I do understand.
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:42:04
Quote by clintster:
MY... BRAIN... HURTS.
Seriously, I made it through about 4 minutes about that before I had to shut it off. Headed for the decontamination shower.
Comment by clintster on 01/09/2013 16:43:17
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
clintster on 01/09/2013 16:43:17
Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:43:27
She's such a joyful inspiring human being.
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:43:27
Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
She's such a joyful inspiring human being.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:44:12
I don't know. I know there was a guy from Texas ...
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:44:12
Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
I don't know. I know there was a guy from Texas ...
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:45:06
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:45:06
Well, we have entered the racist frittata trifecta. Holy moly this woman is the most negative person I have ever heard.
Comment by clintster on 01/09/2013 16:45:06
clintster on 01/09/2013 16:45:06
"Show me a poor Jew"? Jumpin' Jeebus, Mary, your Nazi armband is slipping out from under your housecoat.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:45:17
Billy was from Texas and isn't it John from Mass?
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 16:45:17
Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
I don't know. I know there was a guy from Texas ...
Billy was from Texas and isn't it John from Mass?
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2013 16:46:57
I forgot his name but I remember who you were talking about. Like Mary, he was worried about the fate of the poor Aryan race. I'm surprised these people don't slip up and utter "Seig, Heil!" when they call in.
livingonli on 01/09/2013 16:46:57
Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
I forgot his name but I remember who you were talking about. Like Mary, he was worried about the fate of the poor Aryan race. I'm surprised these people don't slip up and utter "Seig, Heil!" when they call in.
Comment by clintster on 01/09/2013 16:46:58
Jahn From Amherst (whew! Finally got it.). He was a deelight compared to RFM.
clintster on 01/09/2013 16:46:58
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
I don't know. I know there was a guy from Texas ...
Billy was from Texas and isn't it John from Mass?
Jahn From Amherst (whew! Finally got it.). He was a deelight compared to RFM.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:47:45
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:47:45
Well this is for Mary
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:48:05
His name escapes me now. Unfortunately the other local show he called in to (Steve LeVeille) is no longer on the air as LeVeille has retired.
Scott, maybe?
trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:48:05
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
I don't know. I know there was a guy from Texas ...
Billy was from Texas and isn't it John from Mass?
His name escapes me now. Unfortunately the other local show he called in to (Steve LeVeille) is no longer on the air as LeVeille has retired.
Scott, maybe?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:49:02
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:49:02
We need Art from Chicago back.
and Billy from Texas calls Randi and Ed -- and Thom.
and Billy from Texas calls Randi and Ed -- and Thom.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:49:27
Don't think it was him. He was semi-sane. "Scott" was in full-on Jew bashing mode.
trojanrabbit on 01/09/2013 16:49:27
Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:Quote by wickedpam:
oh lawd not Mary
Who was the guy from Massachusetts who used to troll Steph, Randi and a few other progressive shows? Whatever happened to him?
I don't know. I know there was a guy from Texas ...
Billy was from Texas and isn't it John from Mass?
Jahn From Amherst (whew! Finally got it.). He was a deelight compared to RFM.
Don't think it was him. He was semi-sane. "Scott" was in full-on Jew bashing mode.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 16:52:53
Yes -- it was Scott and I believe they stopped putting him on air because he was that bad.
Raine on 01/09/2013 16:52:53
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Don't think it was him. He was semi-sane. "Scott" was in full-on Jew bashing mode.
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 16:54:27
Maybe it was Scott Brown under an assumed name. (Yeah, Republicans are that original.)
TriSec on 01/09/2013 16:54:27
Quote by Raine:
Yes -- it was Scott and I believe they stopped putting him on air because he was that bad.
Maybe it was Scott Brown under an assumed name. (Yeah, Republicans are that original.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:01:45
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:01:45
Well that last segment of Steph sounds like it was tons o' fun. Sorry I missed it.
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2013 17:03:58
livingonli on 01/09/2013 17:03:58
AP radio news just announced that Washington Cathedral will be performing same-sex marriages.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:06:13
AWESOME!
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:06:13
Quote by livingonli:
AP radio news just announced that Washington Cathedral will be performing same-sex marriages.
AWESOME!
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 17:21:09
TriSec on 01/09/2013 17:21:09
Husband throws wife under bus in state lab scandal (MA)
WOBURN, Mass. —As a former Massachusetts chemist is arraigned on obstruction of justice charges, text messages sent by her husband in which he calls her a "liar" have been revealed.
Annie Dookhan was indicted last month on 27 counts, including obstruction, perjury and evidence tampering. She previously pleaded not guilty to 15 counts during an arraignment in Suffolk Superior Court in Boston, but still faces a series of arraignments in other counties
*snip*
State police documents show George Papachristos got a text that read in part:
"This is Annie's husband. Do not believe her, she's a liar, she's always lying."
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:27:03
You might want to check that link, Tri.
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:27:03
Quote by TriSec:
Husband throws wife under bus in state lab scandal (MA)
WOBURN, Mass. —As a former Massachusetts chemist is arraigned on obstruction of justice charges, text messages sent by her husband in which he calls her a "liar" have been revealed.
Annie Dookhan was indicted last month on 27 counts, including obstruction, perjury and evidence tampering. She previously pleaded not guilty to 15 counts during an arraignment in Suffolk Superior Court in Boston, but still faces a series of arraignments in other counties
*snip*
State police documents show George Papachristos got a text that read in part:
"This is Annie's husband. Do not believe her, she's a liar, she's always lying."
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 17:28:17
TriSec on 01/09/2013 17:28:17
Flu spike in Boston
Nobody cough on me, mmmkay?
Nobody cough on me, mmmkay?
BOSTON —The day after announcing four Boston residents have died of the flu and there were 700 other reported cases of the virus, the city has declared a state of emergency.
With the declaration, health care centers across the city will be offering free vaccines to anyone who hasn’t yet been immunized.
The Massachusetts Department of Public Health said it has seen 18 flu-related deaths in the state this season, and described cases of the virus as severe.
Kevin Cranston from the Massachusetts Bureau of Infectious Diseases said there was no real concentration in any one part of the state, but the cases they were seeing are severe.
"What we are hearing from clinicians from across the state is that the strains of flu people are presenting with is quite severe," he said. "We are seeing rates of hospitalization certainly higher than the last two years, which is enough to give us all concern about the seriously of the season."
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 17:29:32
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 17:29:32
I see the gun crazies got the talking points to call all the shows
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:30:10
No, I'll just fly to Logan, break into the Casa De Trisec and lick all the doorknobs, counter top and the keyboard for your computer.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:30:10
Quote by TriSec:
Flu spike in Boston
Nobody cough on me, mmmkay?
BOSTON —The day after announcing four Boston residents have died of the flu and there were 700 other reported cases of the virus, the city has declared a state of emergency.
With the declaration, health care centers across the city will be offering free vaccines to anyone who hasn’t yet been immunized.
The Massachusetts Department of Public Health said it has seen 18 flu-related deaths in the state this season, and described cases of the virus as severe.
Kevin Cranston from the Massachusetts Bureau of Infectious Diseases said there was no real concentration in any one part of the state, but the cases they were seeing are severe.
"What we are hearing from clinicians from across the state is that the strains of flu people are presenting with is quite severe," he said. "We are seeing rates of hospitalization certainly higher than the last two years, which is enough to give us all concern about the seriously of the season."
No, I'll just fly to Logan, break into the Casa De Trisec and lick all the doorknobs, counter top and the keyboard for your computer.
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 17:30:21
Fixxxity!
TriSec on 01/09/2013 17:30:21
Quote by Raine:
You might want to check that link, Tri.
Fixxxity!
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2013 17:31:32
I had The Weather Channel on before I went to bed and Stephanie Abrams was coughing on air. I think she lost her voice for awhile last week so I was surprised that she was back on if she was still coughing.
livingonli on 01/09/2013 17:31:32
Quote by TriSec:
Flu spike in Boston
Nobody cough on me, mmmkay?
BOSTON —The day after announcing four Boston residents have died of the flu and there were 700 other reported cases of the virus, the city has declared a state of emergency.
With the declaration, health care centers across the city will be offering free vaccines to anyone who hasn’t yet been immunized.
The Massachusetts Department of Public Health said it has seen 18 flu-related deaths in the state this season, and described cases of the virus as severe.
Kevin Cranston from the Massachusetts Bureau of Infectious Diseases said there was no real concentration in any one part of the state, but the cases they were seeing are severe.
"What we are hearing from clinicians from across the state is that the strains of flu people are presenting with is quite severe," he said. "We are seeing rates of hospitalization certainly higher than the last two years, which is enough to give us all concern about the seriously of the season."
I had The Weather Channel on before I went to bed and Stephanie Abrams was coughing on air. I think she lost her voice for awhile last week so I was surprised that she was back on if she was still coughing.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:34:29
I'm shocked I tell you!
I had the feeling that was gonna happen after the news about Biden. I decided to be proactive and turned off Ed before he started yelling.
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:34:29
Quote by wickedpam:
I see the gun crazies got the talking points to call all the shows
I had the feeling that was gonna happen after the news about Biden. I decided to be proactive and turned off Ed before he started yelling.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:39:53
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:39:53
Liv, I'm getting email from Sirius saying they need to confirm my email address. My new car has Sirius installed, is this bullshite? Am I opening myself to world of pain if try Sirius for the 30, 60, 90 or whatever period? How much a month is it? Is Sirius worth it?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:43:33
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:43:33
Comment by wickedpam on 01/09/2013 17:43:52
wickedpam on 01/09/2013 17:43:52
I love that I could be getting a Government Shut down for my birthday - it'll make my commute a breeze
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:45:45
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:45:45
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:47:15
Cool pictures. Not cool, the GIANT POPEYE'S AD THAT IS ON THE PAGE. Yikes!
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:47:15
Cool pictures. Not cool, the GIANT POPEYE'S AD THAT IS ON THE PAGE. Yikes!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:47:19
hah!
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:47:19
Quote by wickedpam:
I love that I could be getting a Government Shut down for my birthday - it'll make my commute a breeze
hah!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:48:06
that rollover thing is annoying, I know.
Lotsa cool stuff from Tri's neck of the woods.
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:48:06
Quote by Mondobubba:
Cool pictures. Not cool, the GIANT POPEYE'S AD THAT IS ON THE PAGE. Yikes!
Lotsa cool stuff from Tri's neck of the woods.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:50:09
Some of the color saturation on the pictures is as intense as Technicolor.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 17:50:09
Quote by Raine:that rollover thing is annoying, I know.Quote by Mondobubba:
Cool pictures. Not cool, the GIANT POPEYE'S AD THAT IS ON THE PAGE. Yikes!
Lotsa cool stuff from Tri's neck of the woods.
Some of the color saturation on the pictures is as intense as Technicolor.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:51:56
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:51:56
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:56:35
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:56:35
RGIII is said to be out of surgery and it appears he had a total knee reconstruction.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/09/2013 17:56:47
Scoopster on 01/09/2013 17:56:47
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 17:58:50
Raine on 01/09/2013 17:58:50
Pretty sure they aren't messing around this time.
Biden: Executive orders regarding gun legislation is on the table.
Biden: Executive orders regarding gun legislation is on the table.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 18:00:51
Yeah great false equivalencies there wingnuts. Try again mooks.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 18:00:51
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:
Sandy Hook truthers?
Heh.. that's not all look at this stupidity:
Yeah great false equivalencies there wingnuts. Try again mooks.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 18:02:17
From the one picture I saw, I would think so! Your knee is not designed to move 45 degrees laterally. Yikes!
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 18:02:17
Quote by Raine:
RGIII is said to be out of surgery and it appears he had a total knee reconstruction.
From the one picture I saw, I would think so! Your knee is not designed to move 45 degrees laterally. Yikes!
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2013 18:12:50
Since they send e-mail to your account and I do have auto bill-pay on the XM side your account access on the web site uses your e-mail address. With satellite radio, your mileage may vary, I believe it is still $12.99 a month for just a straight Sirius package which is discounted on an annual plan. Sirius-XM combo packages are a little higher but that would only be if you want Oprah radio, Opie and Anthony and some sports options. Take advantage of the freebie time and decide for yourself, they do have a channel devoted to soccer on channel 92.
livingonli on 01/09/2013 18:12:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
Liv, I'm getting email from Sirius saying they need to confirm my email address. My new car has Sirius installed, is this bullshite? Am I opening myself to world of pain if try Sirius for the 30, 60, 90 or whatever period? How much a month is it? Is Sirius worth it?
Since they send e-mail to your account and I do have auto bill-pay on the XM side your account access on the web site uses your e-mail address. With satellite radio, your mileage may vary, I believe it is still $12.99 a month for just a straight Sirius package which is discounted on an annual plan. Sirius-XM combo packages are a little higher but that would only be if you want Oprah radio, Opie and Anthony and some sports options. Take advantage of the freebie time and decide for yourself, they do have a channel devoted to soccer on channel 92.
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:17:17
Fuel venting is fairly common....at high altitudes and high temperatures, due to pressure changes, mostly. It's usually a few gallons in vapour form.
40 gallons on the tarmac? Methinks it drank too much and needed to take a leak.
Ooh, the 787 is designed for only RR Trents or GE Genx engines. Can't blame P&W for this one...
TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:17:17
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, how long until an engine falls of a Nightmare Liner? The latest on doomed Flight 16.
Fuel venting is fairly common....at high altitudes and high temperatures, due to pressure changes, mostly. It's usually a few gallons in vapour form.
40 gallons on the tarmac? Methinks it drank too much and needed to take a leak.
Ooh, the 787 is designed for only RR Trents or GE Genx engines. Can't blame P&W for this one...
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:25:24
TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:25:24
Mayday, mayday, mayday!
Center, this is Yankee 486-heavy. We are in decline and require immediate infusion of caffeine.
Is a tanker available for rendezvous?
(Heh, I wonder if I can figure out how to pour a cuppa mudd into my bag of fun here so I can just infuse it directly?)
Center, this is Yankee 486-heavy. We are in decline and require immediate infusion of caffeine.
Is a tanker available for rendezvous?
(Heh, I wonder if I can figure out how to pour a cuppa mudd into my bag of fun here so I can just infuse it directly?)
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:30:16
TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:30:16
ATTENTION PEOPLE OF THE WORLD:
WHOEVER DECIDED THAT THE COMPUTER KEYPAD AND THE PHONE KEYPAD SHOULD BE IN OPPOSING ORDER NEEDS TO BURN IN HELL FOR EVER AND EVER, AMEN!
WHOEVER DECIDED THAT THE COMPUTER KEYPAD AND THE PHONE KEYPAD SHOULD BE IN OPPOSING ORDER NEEDS TO BURN IN HELL FOR EVER AND EVER, AMEN!
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:56:18
TriSec on 01/09/2013 18:56:18
Anyone want to drive to Worcester and give me a ride home?
I've messed up so many things today, I'm not convinced I am capable of driving a car this afternoon.
I've messed up so many things today, I'm not convinced I am capable of driving a car this afternoon.
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 19:02:33
TriSec on 01/09/2013 19:02:33
An interesting discussion on TRMS today. Maybe gun control should move to a regional definition.
I've posted here before...I probably don't need a gun in downtown Waltham. You might probably want one in Montana or Alaska.
Can't we have even a lick of common sense about this?
I've posted here before...I probably don't need a gun in downtown Waltham. You might probably want one in Montana or Alaska.
Can't we have even a lick of common sense about this?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 19:07:11
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 19:07:11
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 20:14:45
TriSec on 01/09/2013 20:14:45
Good news for your Loyal Trisec...
Fewer Americans are dying from cancer.
This is one main take-away from the latest report on cancer death rates and new diagnoses of cancer in the U.S. This decline is seen among men and women across all major racial and ethnic groups, and for 17 of the most common types of cancer including lung, colon, breast, and prostate cancers.
Still, not all of the news from the new report is positive.
Rates of death are on the rise from the potentially fatal form of skin cancer, melanoma, in men; uterine cancer in women; and liver and pancreatic cancer in both sexes. What’s more, the data show a rise in cancers related to human papillomavirus (HPV) infection, and that too few at-risk people are getting the vaccine that can help prevent these cancers.
“There is substantial good news in this report,†says researcher Edgar P. Simard, PhD, MPH. He is a senior epidemiologist in the Surveillance Research Program at the American Cancer Society (ACS) in Atlanta.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:20:21
Congrats on that 1.8% less chance of dying!
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:20:21
Quote by TriSec:
Good news for your Loyal Trisec...
Fewer Americans are dying from cancer.
This is one main take-away from the latest report on cancer death rates and new diagnoses of cancer in the U.S. This decline is seen among men and women across all major racial and ethnic groups, and for 17 of the most common types of cancer including lung, colon, breast, and prostate cancers.
Still, not all of the news from the new report is positive.
Rates of death are on the rise from the potentially fatal form of skin cancer, melanoma, in men; uterine cancer in women; and liver and pancreatic cancer in both sexes. What’s more, the data show a rise in cancers related to human papillomavirus (HPV) infection, and that too few at-risk people are getting the vaccine that can help prevent these cancers.
“There is substantial good news in this report,†says researcher Edgar P. Simard, PhD, MPH. He is a senior epidemiologist in the Surveillance Research Program at the American Cancer Society (ACS) in Atlanta.
Congrats on that 1.8% less chance of dying!
Comment by TriSec on 01/09/2013 20:21:51
TriSec on 01/09/2013 20:21:51
Hey, anybody remember the DC-10-10?
After a number of crashes from Emmondville, France (1974) to Chicago, Ill (1979) the public shunned the plane to such an extent that McDonnell Douglas had to re-design and re-designate it (MD-11) just to get people to fly on it again.
I did one flight on an MD-11 (BOS-SFO) and it was a competent, but not comfortable, ride. (I preferred the Lockheed Tristar for a trike.)
After a number of crashes from Emmondville, France (1974) to Chicago, Ill (1979) the public shunned the plane to such an extent that McDonnell Douglas had to re-design and re-designate it (MD-11) just to get people to fly on it again.
I did one flight on an MD-11 (BOS-SFO) and it was a competent, but not comfortable, ride. (I preferred the Lockheed Tristar for a trike.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:23:31
Yeah I've been on MD-11 Chicago to LAX of SFO if memory services.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:23:31
Quote by TriSec:
Hey, anybody remember the DC-10-10?
After a number of crashes from Emmondville, France (1974) to Chicago, Ill (1979) the public shunned the plane to such an extent that McDonnell Douglas had to re-design and re-designate it (MD-11) just to get people to fly on it again.
I did one flight on an MD-11 (BOS-SFO) and it was a competent, but not comfortable, ride. (I preferred the Lockheed Tristar for a trike.)
Yeah I've been on MD-11 Chicago to LAX of SFO if memory services.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 20:28:37
Raine on 01/09/2013 20:28:37
OOfda, another gun loving caller on Randi.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:30:45
Speaking of the 787, did you read Patrick Smith's review?
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:30:45
Quote by TriSec:
Hey, anybody remember the DC-10-10?
After a number of crashes from Emmondville, France (1974) to Chicago, Ill (1979) the public shunned the plane to such an extent that McDonnell Douglas had to re-design and re-designate it (MD-11) just to get people to fly on it again.
I did one flight on an MD-11 (BOS-SFO) and it was a competent, but not comfortable, ride. (I preferred the Lockheed Tristar for a trike.)
Speaking of the 787, did you read Patrick Smith's review?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 20:31:11
bI've been following this story since this morning. Glad to report that none of my friends were on board.
Local reports are that upwards of 57 injured, at least 2 critical.
Raine on 01/09/2013 20:31:11
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donde los yikes! Commuter ferry crash in NYC.
Local reports are that upwards of 57 injured, at least 2 critical.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:36:38
Good to know. The critical injuries, not so much.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 20:36:38
Quote by Raine:bI've been following this story since this morning. Glad to report that none of my friends were on board.Quote by Mondobubba:
Donde los yikes! Commuter ferry crash in NYC.
Local reports are that upwards of 57 injured, at least 2 critical.
Good to know. The critical injuries, not so much.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 20:55:00
Raine on 01/09/2013 20:55:00
So no one got into the Baseball hall of fame this year.
No one!
No one!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 20:57:25
Raine on 01/09/2013 20:57:25
Seriously, what is wrong with Fire arm insurance?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 21:01:19
Raine on 01/09/2013 21:01:19
Thank you Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 21:21:08
Raine on 01/09/2013 21:21:08
OK... EVERY damn guns rights person needs to see this story:
Gun rights activist killed by
Gunshot to his head.
Gun rights activist killed by
Gunshot to his head.
Comment by clintster on 01/09/2013 21:27:14
And this was the last year of Dale Murphy's eligibility.
clintster on 01/09/2013 21:27:14
Quote by Raine:
So no one got into the Baseball hall of fame this year.
No one!
And this was the last year of Dale Murphy's eligibility.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 21:31:45
So ripe with irony! It's like O Henry and Allanis Morrisette had a baby and named it this situation.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 21:31:45
Quote by Raine:
OK... EVERY damn guns rights person needs to see this story:
Gun rights activist killed by
Gunshot to his head.
So ripe with irony! It's like O Henry and Allanis Morrisette had a baby and named it this situation.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2013 21:40:14
Why do they have an expiration date of eligibility?
Raine on 01/09/2013 21:40:14
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
So no one got into the Baseball hall of fame this year.
No one!
And this was the last year of Dale Murphy's eligibility.
Why do they have an expiration date of eligibility?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 21:41:54
he still can get via the old timer's committee.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 21:41:54
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
So no one got into the Baseball hall of fame this year.
No one!
And this was the last year of Dale Murphy's eligibility.
he still can get via the old timer's committee.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 21:59:09
Mondobubba on 01/09/2013 21:59:09
1768 – In London, England, Great Britain, Philip Astley stages the first modern circus.
Could this be first Rick Roll in the Astley family line?
Could this be first Rick Roll in the Astley family line?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/10/2013 05:07:57
I remember the Chicago crash, as the news made me sad. The Chicago Sun-Times also had a lot of bad news that day, including a story on what pollution was doing to frogs. However, I did get to see Superman the Movie that day, so that helped a lot.
Will in Chicago on 01/10/2013 05:07:57
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Hey, anybody remember the DC-10-10?
After a number of crashes from Emmondville, France (1974) to Chicago, Ill (1979) the public shunned the plane to such an extent that McDonnell Douglas had to re-design and re-designate it (MD-11) just to get people to fly on it again.
I did one flight on an MD-11 (BOS-SFO) and it was a competent, but not comfortable, ride. (I preferred the Lockheed Tristar for a trike.)
Yeah I've been on MD-11 Chicago to LAX of SFO if memory services.
I remember the Chicago crash, as the news made me sad. The Chicago Sun-Times also had a lot of bad news that day, including a story on what pollution was doing to frogs. However, I did get to see Superman the Movie that day, so that helped a lot.