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The Road Less Traveled
Author: BobR
Date: 01/16/2013 03:42:01
I had a blog planned for Wednesday. It was to be yet another screed on something or other political. That all went into the dumpster when I found out that a friend is succumbing to cancer, and Raine and I will not get the opportunity to see him again.
Some of you may know John - he went by "Bounced Granola" at the old AAP board. He was a good activist liberal. We got to meet him the first time at a protest march in DC back when no one knew Raine and I were having an online "relationship". We all had a blast. We thought for certain he had figured it out, but - he hadn't.
It was later when Raine and I finally let others know about "us" that he was very supportive. Raine was unsure about selling her house in NY and moving to Atlanta to be with me when my divorce was not yet complete. John encouraged her to make the leap. I don't know the details of those conversations they had, but I suspect it was something along the lines of "sometimes in life you have to follow your heart and say 'fuck it' and take that chance...". Raine and I severed the ties with our individual pasts and made a future together. Were it not for John's support and encouragement, that may not have happened.
We did get to see John again one more time. It was the summer of 2006, and AAP decided to have a meetup in DC. I don't remember if it was for a protest... I actually don't remember too much at all. I know we had cocktails and made a video:
What I do remember is John's easygoing calm approach to everything. No stress, no worries, just enjoying the moment. He exuded an essence of being at peace with the world as we walked to an old-school Italian restaurant and had a blast. Sadly, that restaurant no longer exists, the building sacrificed upon the alter of progress. The bar at the Holiday Inn is still there, though, and everytime we happen into it, we look at the table where we sat so many years ago and drank and laughed and acted as silly as kids. It may seem odd that we feel this deep connection with someone we only met twice in person, but we have a long online history, and his gentle soul was a catalyst that led to our marriage.
If I recall correctly, John didn't find out about his cancer until it was the size of a grapefruit. He went through the operation and the usual treatments, and seemed to be getting better, but he had relapses. This latest one a few weeks ago seemed like it would be another he would fight off, or perhaps he only let us all believe that. We found out otherwise last night.
It's moments like this we are reminded of our own mortality. Death is the final disease which ails us all - none are immune. There's no going back and redoing your mistakes, there's no dress rehearsals or do-overs. Time - and life - moves in one direction only. Time is without end. Lives, however, always have a starting point and an ending point. Though we celebrate birthdays, and mourn those who preceed us in leaving this life, what is most important is what occurs between those two bookending milestones. We cannot take our riches to the grave; nor should we take any regrets.
Life is meant to be lived, to be enjoyed, to be cherished, and to be shared. We should love freely and never sit on the sidelines when we want to play the game. It was a bit of serendipity that this news item (written by Tina Fey) came across my feed about the same time as I got the news about John:
Self-doubt is natural, as is the tendency to take the safe route through life. That safe route, however, is paved with regrets. As the old Schlitz commercial used to say "You only go 'round once in life - grab for the gusto". Tina Fey said yes to the unknown and had a wonderful career making people laugh. John got Raine and I to say yes and we've built a wonderful life together.
To quote Robert Frost:
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference"
We'll meet you on that road again someday, John...
Some of you may know John - he went by "Bounced Granola" at the old AAP board. He was a good activist liberal. We got to meet him the first time at a protest march in DC back when no one knew Raine and I were having an online "relationship". We all had a blast. We thought for certain he had figured it out, but - he hadn't.
It was later when Raine and I finally let others know about "us" that he was very supportive. Raine was unsure about selling her house in NY and moving to Atlanta to be with me when my divorce was not yet complete. John encouraged her to make the leap. I don't know the details of those conversations they had, but I suspect it was something along the lines of "sometimes in life you have to follow your heart and say 'fuck it' and take that chance...". Raine and I severed the ties with our individual pasts and made a future together. Were it not for John's support and encouragement, that may not have happened.
We did get to see John again one more time. It was the summer of 2006, and AAP decided to have a meetup in DC. I don't remember if it was for a protest... I actually don't remember too much at all. I know we had cocktails and made a video:
What I do remember is John's easygoing calm approach to everything. No stress, no worries, just enjoying the moment. He exuded an essence of being at peace with the world as we walked to an old-school Italian restaurant and had a blast. Sadly, that restaurant no longer exists, the building sacrificed upon the alter of progress. The bar at the Holiday Inn is still there, though, and everytime we happen into it, we look at the table where we sat so many years ago and drank and laughed and acted as silly as kids. It may seem odd that we feel this deep connection with someone we only met twice in person, but we have a long online history, and his gentle soul was a catalyst that led to our marriage.
If I recall correctly, John didn't find out about his cancer until it was the size of a grapefruit. He went through the operation and the usual treatments, and seemed to be getting better, but he had relapses. This latest one a few weeks ago seemed like it would be another he would fight off, or perhaps he only let us all believe that. We found out otherwise last night.
It's moments like this we are reminded of our own mortality. Death is the final disease which ails us all - none are immune. There's no going back and redoing your mistakes, there's no dress rehearsals or do-overs. Time - and life - moves in one direction only. Time is without end. Lives, however, always have a starting point and an ending point. Though we celebrate birthdays, and mourn those who preceed us in leaving this life, what is most important is what occurs between those two bookending milestones. We cannot take our riches to the grave; nor should we take any regrets.
Life is meant to be lived, to be enjoyed, to be cherished, and to be shared. We should love freely and never sit on the sidelines when we want to play the game. It was a bit of serendipity that this news item (written by Tina Fey) came across my feed about the same time as I got the news about John:
[In 1997], I moved from Chicago to New York to work at "Saturday Night Live." I packed up and was going through my things to see what I would take with me and what I'd leave behind. I found an orange folder -- a regular school folder -- in a bookshelf. As soon as I saw it, I knew what it was. There were quotes written all over the front of it. Some of them were: "Greet everything with 'Yes, and....'" "Make statements instead of putting the burden on others with questions." "Stay in the present, as opposed to focusing on the past or future." "The fun is always on the other side of a yes."
[..]
The things I learned in that class became part of the way I live my life. A couple of times I've been called on to do things -- jobs or whatever -- where I've felt, Maybe I'm not quite ready. Maybe it's a little early for this to happen to me. But the rules are so ingrained. "Say yes, and you'll figure it out afterward" has helped me to be more adventurous. It has definitely helped me be less afraid.
"We're offering you a job here at 'Saturday Night Live' -- can you move here within a week?"
"Ummm, yes I can."
"You know, you haven't been here that long, but do you want to move up and try to be one of the head writers?"
Feeling completely terrified inside, but saying, "Uhhh, yes, okay, yes, for sure."
"Do you wanna do 'Weekend Update' with Jimmy?"
Petrified. "Yes, thank you, of course!"
Self-doubt is natural, as is the tendency to take the safe route through life. That safe route, however, is paved with regrets. As the old Schlitz commercial used to say "You only go 'round once in life - grab for the gusto". Tina Fey said yes to the unknown and had a wonderful career making people laugh. John got Raine and I to say yes and we've built a wonderful life together.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference"
We'll meet you on that road again someday, John...
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Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 04:23:05
Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 04:23:05
BobR and Raine, till you and John meet again in a place where no shadows fall, keep him close to your heart. I will remember him, and be glad that I knew him from a distance and that he was a great support to the two of you. Remember, love endures all things. May the love for John and his memory always be for a blessing. Shalom.
Comment by 
Raine on 01/16/2013 04:54:44
Raine on 01/16/2013 04:54:44
Many of us Knew Bounced from the AAP days..
CRT
Zowie
Raine1967
BobR
Trisec
PeteMoon
GoUnion
LSD
Lanee
Turtlegirl
Scheusslich
These are the Moderators that I remember. We all adored him.
CRT
Zowie
Raine1967
BobR
Trisec
PeteMoon
GoUnion
LSD
Lanee
Turtlegirl
Scheusslich
These are the Moderators that I remember. We all adored him.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 13:34:24
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 13:34:24
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/16/2013 13:36:06
TriSec on 01/16/2013 13:36:06
Well, damn. I saw the update on the book of face...curious that I only know some folks by online handle.
BG....go easily into the next phase, strong and faithful warrior.
Just thinking of poor old Dill, too.
Awfully close to home. The scouting community lost not one, but two parents this week (Council folks, nobody local) and the store has another new diagnosis in-hand.
What the hell is going on around here?
BG....go easily into the next phase, strong and faithful warrior.
Just thinking of poor old Dill, too.
Awfully close to home. The scouting community lost not one, but two parents this week (Council folks, nobody local) and the store has another new diagnosis in-hand.
What the hell is going on around here?
Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2013 14:12:08
TriSec on 01/16/2013 14:12:08
Well, at least when I stay home I can listen to Momma on Current. For now. It's not Al-Jazeera yet.
(Snowing here, which is no big deal to me...but there was a truck accident on the Mass Pike westbound this am - road has been closed for hours, with a 25+ mile backup. So a commute wasn't an option today.)
(Snowing here, which is no big deal to me...but there was a truck accident on the Mass Pike westbound this am - road has been closed for hours, with a 25+ mile backup. So a commute wasn't an option today.)
Comment by 
BobR on 01/16/2013 14:15:16
I think science has gotten good at eliminating (or at least severely weakening) some of the tools of the grim reaper. The Big C, however, still holds power. That, and the dark side of scientific advancements that make our environment more toxic and prone to cause problems.
BobR on 01/16/2013 14:15:16
Quote by TriSec:
Well, damn. I saw the update on the book of face...curious that I only know some folks by online handle.
BG....go easily into the next phase, strong and faithful warrior.
Just thinking of poor old Dill, too.
Awfully close to home. The scouting community lost not one, but two parents this week (Council folks, nobody local) and the store has another new diagnosis in-hand.
What the hell is going on around here?
I think science has gotten good at eliminating (or at least severely weakening) some of the tools of the grim reaper. The Big C, however, still holds power. That, and the dark side of scientific advancements that make our environment more toxic and prone to cause problems.
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 14:22:39
Raine on 01/16/2013 14:22:39
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 14:28:34
Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 14:28:34
Comment by 
Scoopster on 01/16/2013 14:49:13
Scoopster on 01/16/2013 14:49:13
Mornin' all..
I didn't really get a chance to know BG, but I do remember him from the early AAP days.
Hasn't been much reason to smile this week all around, but that's all the more reason to do it.
I didn't really get a chance to know BG, but I do remember him from the early AAP days.
Hasn't been much reason to smile this week all around, but that's all the more reason to do it.
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 14:57:14
That is so very True, Scoop.
Raine on 01/16/2013 14:57:14
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..
I didn't really get a chance to know BG, but I do remember him from the early AAP days.
Hasn't been much reason to smile this week all around, but that's all the more reason to do it.
That is so very True, Scoop.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 14:57:26
Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 14:57:26
Bobber asked me to pass the news about BG on to some of the AAP bloggers, CRT told me that Lower Slower Delaware's husband had passed away on Monday of a heart attack. After he had angioplasty. It has not been a good few days for the AAP?4F family.
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 14:58:53
Bobber told me last night, that was shocking. bad night last night was.
Raine on 01/16/2013 14:58:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bobber asked me to pass the news about BG on to some of the AAP bloggers, CRT told me that Lower Slower Delaware's husband had passed away on Monday of a heart attack. After he had angioplasty. It has not been a good few days for the AAP?4F family.
Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2013 15:07:08
TriSec on 01/16/2013 15:07:08
* feather knocks TriSec over *
I stayed in touch occasionally (and increasingly rarely) with LSD after the schism.
This just ain't right.
I stayed in touch occasionally (and increasingly rarely) with LSD after the schism.
This just ain't right.
O Allah! Forgive him and have Mercy on him and give him strength and pardon him. Be generous to him and cause his entrace to be wide and wash him with water and snow and hail.
Cleanse him of his transgressions as white cloth is cleansed of stains. Give him an abode better than his home, and a family better than his family and a wife better than his wife. Take him into Paradise and protect him from the punishment of the grave (and of the fire)
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 15:09:02
Raine, some of these names are on RadioFreeLiberal.com. I will go there today and let people know.. Is it okay if I mention his full name from Facebook?
Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 15:09:02
Quote by Raine:
Many of us Knew Bounced from the AAP days..
CRT
Zowie
Raine1967
BobR
Trisec
PeteMoon
GoUnion
LSD
Lanee
Turtlegirl
Scheusslich
These are the Moderators that I remember. We all adored him.
Raine, some of these names are on RadioFreeLiberal.com. I will go there today and let people know.. Is it okay if I mention his full name from Facebook?
Comment by BobR on 01/16/2013 15:10:19
I think at this point, being "outed" is the last of his worries
BobR on 01/16/2013 15:10:19
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:
Many of us Knew Bounced from the AAP days..
CRT
Zowie
Raine1967
BobR
Trisec
PeteMoon
GoUnion
LSD
Lanee
Turtlegirl
Scheusslich
These are the Moderators that I remember. We all adored him.
Raine, some of these names are on RadioFreeLiberal.com. I will go there today and let people know.. Is it okay if I mention his full name from Facebook?
I think at this point, being "outed" is the last of his worries
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 15:11:32
I would just give them the link to the blog, Will.
Raine on 01/16/2013 15:11:32
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:
Many of us Knew Bounced from the AAP days..
CRT
Zowie
Raine1967
BobR
Trisec
PeteMoon
GoUnion
LSD
Lanee
Turtlegirl
Scheusslich
These are the Moderators that I remember. We all adored him.
Raine, some of these names are on RadioFreeLiberal.com. I will go there today and let people know.. Is it okay if I mention his full name from Facebook?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 15:16:24
Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 15:16:24
This is indeed a sad week for the AAP/Four Freedoms family. May Lower Slower Delaware's husband rest in peace.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 15:31:43
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 15:31:43
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 15:35:17
Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 15:35:17
This is getting a little heavy, check out Google's doodle today 
Zambonis rule! Raine, don't you have a picture of yourself riding one?
Zambonis rule! Raine, don't you have a picture of yourself riding one?
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 01/16/2013 15:40:57
velveeta jones on 01/16/2013 15:40:57
So sorry to hear this news. I remember John from AAP, though I did not know his real name. :(
Comment by Scoopster on 01/16/2013 15:43:59
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
Scoopster on 01/16/2013 15:43:59
Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 15:48:46
I do! I;'m having tons of issues with my FB exporter for iPhoto -- I'll find that picture-- I think it's over at the old Photobucket account.
Raine on 01/16/2013 15:48:46
Quote by Mondobubba:
This is getting a little heavy, check out Google's doodle today
I do! I;'m having tons of issues with my FB exporter for iPhoto -- I'll find that picture-- I think it's over at the old Photobucket account.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 15:52:45
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 15:52:45
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 15:58:59
Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 15:58:59
I've taken my first oral cipro tablet. So far my tendons aren't exploding.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 16:00:00
I hope that she surfaces soon.
Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 16:00:00
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
I hope that she surfaces soon.
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 16:03:50
Raine on 01/16/2013 16:03:50
Finally! something to celebrate!
My neighbors -- Mala I believe you met Justine, she is australian, at our party -- She has given birth to a baby boy!
My neighbors -- Mala I believe you met Justine, she is australian, at our party -- She has given birth to a baby boy!
Comment by BobR on 01/16/2013 16:06:33
ooOOoo - it's a zamboni game!
BobR on 01/16/2013 16:06:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
This is getting a little heavy, check out Google's doodle today
ooOOoo - it's a zamboni game!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 16:06:50
Mazel tov!! May he live a long, happy and healthy life.
I posted at Radio Free Liberal, so we may have some people checking the blog out today. Meanwhile, I am waiting to hear on one position today or tomorrow.
Will in Chicago on 01/16/2013 16:06:50
Quote by Raine:
Finally! something to celebrate!
My neighbors -- Mala I believe you met Justine, she is australian, at our party -- She has given birth to a baby boy!
Mazel tov!! May he live a long, happy and healthy life.
I posted at Radio Free Liberal, so we may have some people checking the blog out today. Meanwhile, I am waiting to hear on one position today or tomorrow.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/16/2013 16:14:58
Unfortunately that's a problem too cuz she's burned bridges all over the place throughout the years. I don't know what kind of people she's been hanging out with anymore.
Scoopster on 01/16/2013 16:14:58
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately that's a problem too cuz she's burned bridges all over the place throughout the years. I don't know what kind of people she's been hanging out with anymore.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:15:57
Yay new baby boy
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:15:57
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:
Finally! something to celebrate!
My neighbors -- Mala I believe you met Justine, she is australian, at our party -- She has given birth to a baby boy!
Mazel tov!! May he live a long, happy and healthy life.
I posted at Radio Free Liberal, so we may have some people checking the blog out today. Meanwhile, I am waiting to hear on one position today or tomorrow.
Yay new baby boy
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:17:24
hmmm - what about here work? does she have a FB page or Twitter? I'd use every way imaginable to reach out to her or her other friends.
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:17:24
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately that's a problem too cuz she's burned bridges all over the place throughout the years. I don't know what kind of people she's been hanging out with anymore.
hmmm - what about here work? does she have a FB page or Twitter? I'd use every way imaginable to reach out to her or her other friends.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:18:35
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:18:35
what is Steph happy for Hal about?
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 16:19:13
Scoop, do you have a recent photo of her?
At a certain point, she can be considered a missing person. This is just terrible.
Raine on 01/16/2013 16:19:13
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately that's a problem too cuz she's burned bridges all over the place throughout the years. I don't know what kind of people she's been hanging out with anymore.
hmmm - what about here work? does she have a FB page or Twitter? I'd use every way imaginable to reach out to her or her other friends.
At a certain point, she can be considered a missing person. This is just terrible.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/16/2013 16:19:41
Heh.. I had been helping her look for a job along with the apartment hunt before this whole thing.. and she took all her social media offline because she had a REALLY abusive stalker asshole ex tracking her down (dude was so rotten he drove her to attempt suicide).
Scoopster on 01/16/2013 16:19:41
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately that's a problem too cuz she's burned bridges all over the place throughout the years. I don't know what kind of people she's been hanging out with anymore.
hmmm - what about here work? does she have a FB page or Twitter? I'd use every way imaginable to reach out to her or her other friends.
Heh.. I had been helping her look for a job along with the apartment hunt before this whole thing.. and she took all her social media offline because she had a REALLY abusive stalker asshole ex tracking her down (dude was so rotten he drove her to attempt suicide).
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 16:28:09
OK... this is a serious reason to call the police, Scoop. Was the stalker local?
Raine on 01/16/2013 16:28:09
Quote by Scoopster:
Heh.. I had been helping her look for a job along with the apartment hunt before this whole thing.. and she took all her social media offline because she had a REALLY abusive stalker asshole ex tracking her down (dude was so rotten he drove her to attempt suicide).
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:28:44
you don't think the ex found her do you?
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:28:44
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:
I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately that's a problem too cuz she's burned bridges all over the place throughout the years. I don't know what kind of people she's been hanging out with anymore.
hmmm - what about here work? does she have a FB page or Twitter? I'd use every way imaginable to reach out to her or her other friends.
Heh.. I had been helping her look for a job along with the apartment hunt before this whole thing.. and she took all her social media offline because she had a REALLY abusive stalker asshole ex tracking her down (dude was so rotten he drove her to attempt suicide).
you don't think the ex found her do you?
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 16:45:20
Raine on 01/16/2013 16:45:20
Hail Mary -- full of hate.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/16/2013 16:47:37
Nah I'm pretty sure he got put away in jail for a long time (got busted for dealing). My guess is she just fell off the wagon and/or is avoiding contact with anyone so she doesn't have to deal with it. Heh it's weird I'm starting to hear from the rest of her family & common friends I haven't talked to in a while cuz they've heard from her dad & stepmom.
Scoopster on 01/16/2013 16:47:37
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I just have no words today, don't like this losing people - so stop it out there. Buddy system everyone - no more losing friends and family
Speaking of friends, I talked to my friend's dad a few times yesterday. He's gonna reimburse the money she took from what he's holding for her. But the problem now is she's missing - neither of us have heard from her since Sunday, and he's gotten no answer at her apartment several times since then.
oh no, I hope she's okay. Any of her other friends hear from her?
~~~~~~~~~ positives vibes ya'll's way~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately that's a problem too cuz she's burned bridges all over the place throughout the years. I don't know what kind of people she's been hanging out with anymore.
hmmm - what about here work? does she have a FB page or Twitter? I'd use every way imaginable to reach out to her or her other friends.
Heh.. I had been helping her look for a job along with the apartment hunt before this whole thing.. and she took all her social media offline because she had a REALLY abusive stalker asshole ex tracking her down (dude was so rotten he drove her to attempt suicide).
you don't think the ex found her do you?
Nah I'm pretty sure he got put away in jail for a long time (got busted for dealing). My guess is she just fell off the wagon and/or is avoiding contact with anyone so she doesn't have to deal with it. Heh it's weird I'm starting to hear from the rest of her family & common friends I haven't talked to in a while cuz they've heard from her dad & stepmom.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:50:34
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 16:50:34
Scoop - glad to hear more of her old friends are coming out to support and find her. Hope she's found soon and safe.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 16:54:20
Mondobubba on 01/16/2013 16:54:20
Powerful antibiotics suck. I feel oogy. Certainly not like I have been pumped full of Satan's Drool or anything.
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 17:02:43
Raine on 01/16/2013 17:02:43
Holy Moly.
Thank You President Obama.
Thank You President Obama.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 17:03:59
ugh, never did Cipro but have to do clindamycin when I got root canal's - it real hit or miss on how it makes me feel. can't do the penicillin it makes my skin itch
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 17:03:59
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Powerful antibiotics suck. I feel oogy. Certainly not like I have been pumped full of Satan's Drool or anything.
ugh, never did Cipro but have to do clindamycin when I got root canal's - it real hit or miss on how it makes me feel. can't do the penicillin it makes my skin itch
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/16/2013 17:09:33
livingonli on 01/16/2013 17:09:33
Good day, folks. I remember BG from the '06 meetup. There wasn't a protest when we went down in '06 (unlike '05) I think we just wanted to get together. I don't think I had heard from him since then since he was only at AAP intermittently and then I really stopped frequenting the message boards but I can't forget that video (I think I did help out a bit). I pretty much associate with the AAPers on facebook since I wasn't part of the blowup. Although there are a few people who seem to have drifted away .
I still wonder what happened to PeteMoon since he used to be so prolific.
I still wonder what happened to PeteMoon since he used to be so prolific.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/16/2013 17:22:41
She just texted me.
Scoopster on 01/16/2013 17:22:41
She just texted me.
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2013 17:25:14
Thank goodness! 
Raine on 01/16/2013 17:25:14
Quote by Scoopster:
She just texted me.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 17:29:15
Ditto that Thank Goodness!
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 17:29:15
Quote by Raine:Thank goodness!Quote by Scoopster:
She just texted me.
Ditto that Thank Goodness!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2013 17:33:44
wickedpam on 01/16/2013 17:33:44
I'm sorry, did a caller on Ed just say we were being invade my Mexico? 
Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2013 17:35:45
TriSec on 01/16/2013 17:35:45
Another WWII tidbit I didn't know....Orde Wingate is buried at Arlington!
(British General, in charge of the Chindit ops in C-B-I...killed in a plane crash in '44.)
Apparently, 8 of the 10 persons on board the plane were Americans....they had no way to ID shattered remains in those days, so the whole lot of them were exhumed from their wartime grave and transported to Virginia...
Who knew?
(British General, in charge of the Chindit ops in C-B-I...killed in a plane crash in '44.)
Apparently, 8 of the 10 persons on board the plane were Americans....they had no way to ID shattered remains in those days, so the whole lot of them were exhumed from their wartime grave and transported to Virginia...
Who knew?