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Accounting the Count: The Va. AG race is still in play
Author: Raine
Date: 11/08/2013 14:07:39
While a recount would certainly be expected anyway, it appears as tho we have a case of missing votes in Fairfax County, Virginia. This is a rather big deal.
Brad Friedman took note of this article as well and has more information: Here is a link to the spreadsheet that Dave Wasserman is crowd sourcing. Those numbers may change through out the day. [Update: About 9 o'clock this morning Wasserman tweeted: Herring likely will take 500-1,000 vote lead soon. He's coined this the #7CornersSurprise.
I for one am very glad we have optical scanners in this area of the state. There are still concerns, to be sure but this is heading in the right direction. AccuVote™ is the approved optical voting machine in Fairfax county. Let's hope that every ballot is found and accounted for. Right now, I hold out hope that they will. Mr. Schoeneman was up late last dealing with this. That he is communicating with Democratic strategist Benjamin Tribbet and Cook Political Report Editor David Wasserman is a very good thing.
and 
Raine
The county keeps track of how many voters request absentee ballots as well as the number who actually turn them in. In the 10th District, 88 percent of voters who requested a ballot actually voted, while 86 percent did so in the 11th District.
But in the 8th District, the state board shows that only 50 percent of those who requested ballots — 4,168 out of 8,363 requests — actually cast ballots, a response rate not only lower than the other portions of Fairfax County, but lower than any other congressional district in the state, according to the Connolly campaign. (snip)
It’s unclear why those two numbers are different, or whether a recording error occurred when Fairfax reported its numbers or when the state board recorded them. The discrepancy in those two numbers was first pointed out on Twitter late Thursday by Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report.
"The more I look at the data, the totality of the evidence points towards the likelihood that there are [approximately] 3,000 untallied Fairfax Co. votes," tweeted Dave Wasserman, political analyst at the Cook Political Report, tonight. He's been going over the state's reported numbers with a fine tooth comb --- and a publicly crowd-sourced Google spreadsheet --- since Election Night.
"And if there are indeed [approximately] 3,000 missing Fairfax #VA08 absentee votes, that'd almost certainly be the miracle Herring (D) needs to pull ahead," he continued. "What a complete reversal of fortune in #VAAG race in just the last few hours."
"The 2,500-3,000 missing votes happen to be from some of the most Democratic precincts in Fairfax County. Big margin for Herring," tweeted Ben Tribbett tonight, who Wasserman lauded on Twitter. "No one knows Fairfax politics more intimately than" him, he said.
"It appears to me there is solid evidence of missing votes," Tribbet observed, before later adding that he spoke tonight to the Republican election board member Schoeneman "and explained the issue to him." Tribbet added: "Glad to have a Republican on Elec-Board making sure every vote counts."
I for one am very glad we have optical scanners in this area of the state. There are still concerns, to be sure but this is heading in the right direction. AccuVote™ is the approved optical voting machine in Fairfax county. Let's hope that every ballot is found and accounted for. Right now, I hold out hope that they will. Mr. Schoeneman was up late last dealing with this. That he is communicating with Democratic strategist Benjamin Tribbet and Cook Political Report Editor David Wasserman is a very good thing.
and Raine
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Comment by 
BobR on 11/08/2013 14:20:08
BobR on 11/08/2013 14:20:08
waiting for the Republicans to cry "cheating" and "stuffing the ballot box"
Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:20:38
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:20:38
Morning 
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:22:41
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:22:41
Opitical scanner, not so much for the PW area - I voted on a touch screen.
Comment by 
Raine on 11/08/2013 14:30:37
Every polling place is required to have at least one optical scanner to comply with this: We have one at our polling place. That change happened during the 2011 primaries, I believe.
I wonder if your county might move to change from the touch screen to optical --
Raine on 11/08/2013 14:30:37
Quote by wickedpam:
Opitical scanner, not so much for the PW area - I voted on a touch screen.
The Office of Elections will continue to deploy the existing WINvote touch screen machines to all precincts. These machines comply with the federal Help America Vote Act of 2002, Public Law 107-252 (HAVA), which mandates accessible voting devices for blind and visually impaired voters.
I wonder if your county might move to change from the touch screen to optical --
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 14:31:19
Raine on 11/08/2013 14:31:19
When we walk in they ask us if we want a paper ballot.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:34:55
Must just be a Fairfax/Alexandria County thing cause we don't have one that I've seen.
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:34:55
Quote by Raine:Every polling place is required to have at least one optical scanner to comply with this:Quote by wickedpam:
Opitical scanner, not so much for the PW area - I voted on a touch screen.We have one at our polling place. That change happened during the 2011 primaries, I believe.The Office of Elections will continue to deploy the existing WINvote touch screen machines to all precincts. These machines comply with the federal Help America Vote Act of 2002, Public Law 107-252 (HAVA), which mandates accessible voting devices for blind and visually impaired voters.
I wonder if your county might move to change from the touch screen to optical --
Must just be a Fairfax/Alexandria County thing cause we don't have one that I've seen.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 14:42:18
Raine on 11/08/2013 14:42:18
Follow @Redistrict on twitter -- that's Dave Wasserman
Follow @notlarrysabato That's Ben Tribbet
About an hour ago this came into the feed:
Follow @notlarrysabato That's Ben Tribbet
About an hour ago this came into the feed:
Jane Sprague to @Redistrict What's happening with the error in D-5, Mont. Co.?
â€@Redistrict to @JaneSprague1 That has been fixed & is built into Obenshain's 777 vote lead at SBE. So Herring likely will take 500-1,000 vote lead soon.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 11/08/2013 14:52:01
Scoopster on 11/08/2013 14:52:01
Mornin' all.. 
aaaand happy Fridee! 
aaaand happy Fridee!
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:54:35
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 14:54:35
I actually know someone who goes to that Creationism "museum".
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 14:59:48
I added this update to the blog.
Raine on 11/08/2013 14:59:48
Quote by Raine:
Follow @Redistrict on twitter -- that's Dave Wasserman
Follow @notlarrysabato That's Ben Tribbet
About an hour ago this came into the feed:Jane Sprague to @Redistrict What's happening with the error in D-5, Mont. Co.?
â€@Redistrict to @JaneSprague1 That has been fixed & is built into Obenshain's 777 vote lead at SBE. So Herring likely will take 500-1,000 vote lead soon.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 15:13:15
Glad you found that story!
That guy has been dogged in his determination. Romney/Baine offered him a significant amount of money to settle the case -- and he said no. (do we have a flipping the bird emoticon?)
Raine on 11/08/2013 15:13:15
Quote by Scoopster:
Mitt Romney - Racketeering Boss?!
That guy has been dogged in his determination. Romney/Baine offered him a significant amount of money to settle the case -- and he said no. (do we have a flipping the bird emoticon?)
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 15:15:53
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 15:15:53
Allo my peeples. Feeling much better today. All chipper and right as rain.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 15:31:35
Glad to 'ear that mate.
Raine on 11/08/2013 15:31:35
Quote by Mondobubba:
Allo my peeples. Feeling much better today. All chipper and right as rain.
Glad to 'ear that mate.
Comment by BobR on 11/08/2013 15:33:27
This is close enough =>
BobR on 11/08/2013 15:33:27
Quote by Raine:Glad you found that story!Quote by Scoopster:
Mitt Romney - Racketeering Boss?!
That guy has been dogged in his determination. Romney/Baine offered him a significant amount of money to settle the case -- and he said no. (do we have a flipping the bird emoticon?)
This is close enough =>
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 15:49:55
Raine on 11/08/2013 15:49:55
testing: 
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 15:57:12
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 15:57:12
yes
Comment by 
clintster on 11/08/2013 15:57:17
clintster on 11/08/2013 15:57:17
Creationists...
Comment by clintster on 11/08/2013 15:59:10
clintster on 11/08/2013 15:59:10
BTW, not for nothin', but I think this is still relevant.
Relinked for jpggy goodness.
Relinked for jpggy goodness.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 16:03:55
and you are not friends with either fellows in the picture? I want to know if I can repost their pictures. (Chris and Donnie)
Raine on 11/08/2013 16:03:55
Quote by wickedpam:
yes
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 16:04:33
Works for me. Danke Bobber.
Raine on 11/08/2013 16:04:33
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:Glad you found that story!Quote by Scoopster:
Mitt Romney - Racketeering Boss?!
That guy has been dogged in his determination. Romney/Baine offered him a significant amount of money to settle the case -- and he said no. (do we have a flipping the bird emoticon?)
This is close enough =>
Comment by clintster on 11/08/2013 16:04:34
clintster on 11/08/2013 16:04:34
And as I'm listening to the Asheville station on iHeart, they play a commercial for a "Biblical money code". Sometimes, I am really, really, REALLY embarrassed by the practitioners of my faith.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 16:07:13
huh? I mean I see it here - are you talking about FB? and nope don't know either of them
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 16:07:13
Quote by Raine:and you are not friends with either fellows in the picture? I want to know if I can repost their pictures. (Chris and Donnie)Quote by wickedpam:
yes
huh? I mean I see it here - are you talking about FB? and nope don't know either of them
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 16:16:20
I wanted to know if you can see it here and I assumed that aside from Bob and I you guys aren't friends with them on FB. if you can see it, that means I can repost this picture for my friends to see that aren't friends of Donnie and Chris.
Does that make sense?
Raine on 11/08/2013 16:16:20
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:and you are not friends with either fellows in the picture? I want to know if I can repost their pictures. (Chris and Donnie)Quote by wickedpam:
yes
huh? I mean I see it here - are you talking about FB? and nope don't know either of them
Does that make sense?
Comment by clintster on 11/08/2013 16:18:20
clintster on 11/08/2013 16:18:20
And now I see this story in my FB feed. Maybe I need to look into Buddhism.
*note, "Temple of the High Country" is a synagogue in Boone NC. The congregation used to share space with the UU congregation I go to when I am there.
*note, "Temple of the High Country" is a synagogue in Boone NC. The congregation used to share space with the UU congregation I go to when I am there.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 16:23:33
uummmm
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 16:23:33
Quote by Raine:I wanted to know if you can see it here and I assumed that aside from Bob and I you guys aren't friends with them on FB. if you can see it, that means I can repost this picture for my friends to see that aren't friends of Donnie and Chris.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:and you are not friends with either fellows in the picture? I want to know if I can repost their pictures. (Chris and Donnie)Quote by wickedpam:
yes
huh? I mean I see it here - are you talking about FB? and nope don't know either of them
Does that make sense?
uummmm
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/08/2013 16:26:18
livingonli on 11/08/2013 16:26:18
Good morning, folks. I'm wondering how many votes were flipped in the governor's race to turn McAuliffe's win into such a squeaker. The GOP was trying to purge the voter rolls before the elections since they already knew it wasn't looking good for the Cooch.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 16:32:44
We have those not a sermon just a thought commercials.
We do -- and they are just sad. It's a jews4Jesus church. They don't make that clear at all.
Raine on 11/08/2013 16:32:44
Quote by clintster:
And as I'm listening to the Asheville station on iHeart, they play a commercial for a "Biblical money code". Sometimes, I am really, really, REALLY embarrassed by the practitioners of my faith.
We do -- and they are just sad. It's a jews4Jesus church. They don't make that clear at all.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 16:36:17
In this particular case, I don't think it was vote flipping. I think we have optical scanning machines that didn't read the paper ballots correctly. (there is a paper back up)
That, combined with provisionals and absentee -- it could turn the race around.
I'm not trying to negate the touch screen voting machine issues, but at this point -- we are talking about Fairfax county.
Raine on 11/08/2013 16:36:17
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm wondering how many votes were flipped in the governor's race to turn McAuliffe's win into such a squeaker. The GOP was trying to purge the voter rolls before the elections since they already knew it wasn't looking good for the Cooch.
That, combined with provisionals and absentee -- it could turn the race around.
I'm not trying to negate the touch screen voting machine issues, but at this point -- we are talking about Fairfax county.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 16:38:09
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 16:38:09
Have we all figured out our redneck elf names yet?
Howdy Ahm Jimbo the sugar-plumed Hoarder.
Howdy Ahm Jimbo the sugar-plumed Hoarder.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/08/2013 16:42:04
Will in Chicago on 11/08/2013 16:42:04
Good morning, bloggers!! I hope that everyone is well.
I am going to be out most of the day as I have to take a relative to the VA and check in on a friend in his 90s. I find my thoughts going to the Philippines, where Super Typhoon Haiyan has had sustained winds of 195 mph and wind bursts to 235 mph. Let us keep the people of that nation in our thoughts and prayers and consider what can be done to limit the damage of global climate change.
I am going to be out most of the day as I have to take a relative to the VA and check in on a friend in his 90s. I find my thoughts going to the Philippines, where Super Typhoon Haiyan has had sustained winds of 195 mph and wind bursts to 235 mph. Let us keep the people of that nation in our thoughts and prayers and consider what can be done to limit the damage of global climate change.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 16:42:12
There is a joke here somewhere.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 16:42:12
Poland double-books climate conference with coal summit
There is a joke here somewhere.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 16:43:15
I believe mine was Noelle the sparkle Crack-whore
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 16:43:15
Quote by Mondobubba:
Have we all figured out our redneck elf names yet?
Howdy Ahm Jimbo the sugar-plumed Hoarder.
I believe mine was Noelle the sparkle Crack-whore
Comment by 
TriSec on 11/08/2013 16:43:57
TriSec on 11/08/2013 16:43:57
Meh.
Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2013 16:44:47
The purging of the voter rolls is more the Jeb Bush-Katherine Harris 2000 tactic of keeping people from voting in Florida.
livingonli on 11/08/2013 16:44:47
Quote by Raine:In this particular case, I don't think it was vote flipping. I think we have optical scanning machines that didn't read the paper ballots correctly. (there is a paper back up)Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm wondering how many votes were flipped in the governor's race to turn McAuliffe's win into such a squeaker. The GOP was trying to purge the voter rolls before the elections since they already knew it wasn't looking good for the Cooch.
That, combined with provisionals and absentee -- it could turn the race around.
I'm not trying to negate the touch screen voting machine issues, but at this point -- we are talking about Fairfax county.
The purging of the voter rolls is more the Jeb Bush-Katherine Harris 2000 tactic of keeping people from voting in Florida.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 16:46:37
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 16:46:37
So yestereve since I was feeling better I went suit shopping. The Avenues Mall was already playing Christmas carols. Simon Properties, send the fat guy home until the day after Thanksgiving for fuck's sake. Please.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2013 16:48:47
TriSec on 11/08/2013 16:48:47
My campaign for City Council starts this weekend. I'm looking into fundraising sites and investigating setting up a campaign website and/or blog.
Of course, I'll need all of you to move to Waltham's Ward 6, Precinct 2 and inflate the voter rolls for me. I'll also peddle influece if I think it will help me win.
Of course, I'll need all of you to move to Waltham's Ward 6, Precinct 2 and inflate the voter rolls for me. I'll also peddle influece if I think it will help me win.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2013 16:49:44
The house down the street from me already has their big inflatable Santa out. I asked Mrs. TriSec if we owned any BB guns.
TriSec on 11/08/2013 16:49:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
So yestereve since I was feeling better I went suit shopping. The Avenues Mall was already playing Christmas carols. Simon Properties, send the fat guy home until the day after Thanksgiving for fuck's sake. Please.
The house down the street from me already has their big inflatable Santa out. I asked Mrs. TriSec if we owned any BB guns.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 11/08/2013 16:55:53
trojanrabbit on 11/08/2013 16:55:53
"Romanes eunt domus" - Rand Paul
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 17:08:20
I'd like to further esplain, but I've gotta herd cats.
Raine on 11/08/2013 17:08:20
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I wanted to know if you can see it here and I assumed that aside from Bob and I you guys aren't friends with them on FB. if you can see it, that means I can repost this picture for my friends to see that aren't friends of Donnie and Chris.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:and you are not friends with either fellows in the picture? I want to know if I can repost their pictures. (Chris and Donnie)Quote by wickedpam:
yes
huh? I mean I see it here - are you talking about FB? and nope don't know either of them
Does that make sense?
uummmm
I'd like to further esplain, but I've gotta herd cats.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:13:59
Don't use BB guns, those holes can be patched. Attack it with a cordless soldering iron so you can make a huge gaping hole!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:13:59
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
So yestereve since I was feeling better I went suit shopping. The Avenues Mall was already playing Christmas carols. Simon Properties, send the fat guy home until the day after Thanksgiving for fuck's sake. Please.
The house down the street from me already has their big inflatable Santa out. I asked Mrs. TriSec if we owned any BB guns.
Don't use BB guns, those holes can be patched. Attack it with a cordless soldering iron so you can make a huge gaping hole!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 17:14:05
I'm not negating the voter purge. That may play a part on this. That's why we have provisional ballots.
I don't think this is about purging the rolls. This is more about scanning machines not reading the scans. They are still asking to count provisionals. they are still looking at absentee voting -- and early voting.
I'm not ready to believe this is like 2000.
Florida used touch screens. Fairfax County uses optical scanning of paper ballots.
Raine on 11/08/2013 17:14:05
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:In this particular case, I don't think it was vote flipping. I think we have optical scanning machines that didn't read the paper ballots correctly. (there is a paper back up)Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm wondering how many votes were flipped in the governor's race to turn McAuliffe's win into such a squeaker. The GOP was trying to purge the voter rolls before the elections since they already knew it wasn't looking good for the Cooch.
That, combined with provisionals and absentee -- it could turn the race around.
I'm not trying to negate the touch screen voting machine issues, but at this point -- we are talking about Fairfax county.
The purging of the voter rolls is more the Jeb Bush-Katherine Harris 2000 tactic of keeping people from voting in Florida.
I don't think this is about purging the rolls. This is more about scanning machines not reading the scans. They are still asking to count provisionals. they are still looking at absentee voting -- and early voting.
I'm not ready to believe this is like 2000.
Florida used touch screens. Fairfax County uses optical scanning of paper ballots.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2013 17:14:58
wickedpam on 11/08/2013 17:14:58
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I wanted to know if you can see it here and I assumed that aside from Bob and I you guys aren't friends with them on FB. if you can see it, that means I can repost this picture for my friends to see that aren't friends of Donnie and Chris.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:and you are not friends with either fellows in the picture? I want to know if I can repost their pictures. (Chris and Donnie)Quote by wickedpam:
yes
huh? I mean I see it here - are you talking about FB? and nope don't know either of them
Does that make sense?
uummmm
I'd like to further esplain, but I've gotta herd cats.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:15:39
Ahem. We don't use touch screens here. We have optical scanners, thank you.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:15:39
Quote by Raine:I'm not negating the voter purge. That may play a part on this. That's why we have provisional ballots.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:In this particular case, I don't think it was vote flipping. I think we have optical scanning machines that didn't read the paper ballots correctly. (there is a paper back up)Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm wondering how many votes were flipped in the governor's race to turn McAuliffe's win into such a squeaker. The GOP was trying to purge the voter rolls before the elections since they already knew it wasn't looking good for the Cooch.
That, combined with provisionals and absentee -- it could turn the race around.
I'm not trying to negate the touch screen voting machine issues, but at this point -- we are talking about Fairfax county.
The purging of the voter rolls is more the Jeb Bush-Katherine Harris 2000 tactic of keeping people from voting in Florida.
I don't think this is about purging the rolls. This is more about scanning machines not reading the scans. They are still asking to count provisionals. they are still looking at absentee voting -- and early voting.
I'm not ready to believe this is like 2000.
Florida used touch screens. Fairfax County uses optical scanning of paper ballots.
Ahem. We don't use touch screens here. We have optical scanners, thank you.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2013 17:19:03
Romans eat donuts??? What????
TriSec on 11/08/2013 17:19:03
Quote by trojanrabbit:
"Romanes eunt domus" - Rand Paul
Romans eat donuts??? What????
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2013 17:21:05
Did you in 2000? I recall, they were butterfly ballots back then.
My point stands. In Virginia, this isn't about vote flipping -- not this time.
Raine on 11/08/2013 17:21:05
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I'm not negating the voter purge. That may play a part on this. That's why we have provisional ballots.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:In this particular case, I don't think it was vote flipping. I think we have optical scanning machines that didn't read the paper ballots correctly. (there is a paper back up)Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm wondering how many votes were flipped in the governor's race to turn McAuliffe's win into such a squeaker. The GOP was trying to purge the voter rolls before the elections since they already knew it wasn't looking good for the Cooch.
That, combined with provisionals and absentee -- it could turn the race around.
I'm not trying to negate the touch screen voting machine issues, but at this point -- we are talking about Fairfax county.
The purging of the voter rolls is more the Jeb Bush-Katherine Harris 2000 tactic of keeping people from voting in Florida.
I don't think this is about purging the rolls. This is more about scanning machines not reading the scans. They are still asking to count provisionals. they are still looking at absentee voting -- and early voting.
I'm not ready to believe this is like 2000.
Florida used touch screens. Fairfax County uses optical scanning of paper ballots.
Ahem. We don't use touch screens here. We have optical scanners, thank you.
My point stands. In Virginia, this isn't about vote flipping -- not this time.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2013 17:25:43
TriSec on 11/08/2013 17:25:43
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:26:09
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:26:09
Livin, did you see that Netflix is going to be doing Marvel heroes programs? Starting with Daredevil, We're So Sorry About Afleck.
Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2013 17:28:24
I did hear about that, I may have to breakdown and get a Netflix subscription since I figured with the TV and my schedule I wouldn't have time for it.
livingonli on 11/08/2013 17:28:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
Livin, did you see that Netflix is going to be doing Marvel heroes programs? Starting with Daredevil, We're So Sorry About Afleck.
I did hear about that, I may have to breakdown and get a Netflix subscription since I figured with the TV and my schedule I wouldn't have time for it.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:35:40
2000 was the year of both the infamous Palm Beach County butterfly ballot and the hanging chad. It wasn't until after thenational embarrassment election was over that we discussed changing to the mosheens.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2013 17:35:40
Quote by Raine:Did you in 2000? I recall, they were butterfly ballots back then.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I'm not negating the voter purge. That may play a part on this. That's why we have provisional ballots.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:In this particular case, I don't think it was vote flipping. I think we have optical scanning machines that didn't read the paper ballots correctly. (there is a paper back up)Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm wondering how many votes were flipped in the governor's race to turn McAuliffe's win into such a squeaker. The GOP was trying to purge the voter rolls before the elections since they already knew it wasn't looking good for the Cooch.
That, combined with provisionals and absentee -- it could turn the race around.
I'm not trying to negate the touch screen voting machine issues, but at this point -- we are talking about Fairfax county.
The purging of the voter rolls is more the Jeb Bush-Katherine Harris 2000 tactic of keeping people from voting in Florida.
I don't think this is about purging the rolls. This is more about scanning machines not reading the scans. They are still asking to count provisionals. they are still looking at absentee voting -- and early voting.
I'm not ready to believe this is like 2000.
Florida used touch screens. Fairfax County uses optical scanning of paper ballots.
Ahem. We don't use touch screens here. We have optical scanners, thank you.
My point stands. In Virginia, this isn't about vote flipping -- not this time.
2000 was the year of both the infamous Palm Beach County butterfly ballot and the hanging chad. It wasn't until after the