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Author: TriSec    Date: 02/04/2014 11:14:41

Good Morning.

Today is our 4,503rd day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,307
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,108

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 1, 510, 948, 950, 000 .00


So, continuing on with the AAV dump from Saturday, we'll dive right in. 2014 is the year we're supposed to get out of Afghanistan, so naturally our leadership is already scrumming around looking for the next war. This is in a place where we actually have little experience, so it's anyone's guess how this might turn out.



STUTTGART, Germany — The U.S. should send a 5,000-strong security assistance brigade to the Democratic Republic of the Congo to help stabilize a country ravaged by more than a decade of war, a prominent U.S. military analyst recommends.

In a “memorandum” to President Barack Obama, Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution also urges the White House to send several hundred military advisers to Libya to help train that country’s fledgling armed forces.

“The United States should, with a focused effort and in partnership with other states, make a significant push to improve security in Africa,” O’Hanlon wrote in his Jan. 23 memo, which was posted on the Brookings website. “No massive deployments of U.S. troops would be needed, and in fact no role for American main combat units is required. But we should step up our game from the current very modest training efforts coordinated through Africa Command (AFRICOM).”

The recommendation comes at a time of increased concern about instability in certain parts of Africa. The list of hotspots is long: Mali, Somalia and across ungoverned spaces in the Sahel region of western and north-central Africa, where extremists have taken root, armed in large part with weapons looted from Libyan armories during NATO’s air assault on Moammer Gadhafi’s regime in 2011.

In addition, ethnic divisions have exploded into bloody violence in South Sudan, the Central African Republic and the DRC.

AFRICOM has engaged in many of those hotspots, though U.S. military action generally takes the form of modestly sized training missions, intelligence gathering operations and logistical support to French forces on the ground in places like Mali.

It seems unlikely that the Obama administration would follow O’Hanlon’s recommendation.

In his State of the Union speech Tuesday, Obama emphasized that as the war in Afghanistan winds down, he would send U.S. forces into conflict zones only as a last resort.

“I will not send our troops into harm’s way unless it’s truly necessary. Nor will I allow our sons and daughters to be mired in open-ended conflicts,” Obama said.


But this isn't the only place we're going. You may remember that a few months back, much fanfare was made about the last of our armoured divisions coming home from Germany. After all, that only took 68 years. But of course, the military abhors a vacuum....we're ba-aaack!


GRAFENWÖHR, Germany — Less than a year after they left European soil, American tanks have returned to military bases in Germany where they had been a heavy presence since World War II.

In April last year, the last Abrams tanks left Germany, coinciding with a drawdown of U.S. forces that saw the inactivation of two infantry brigades — the 170th and 172nd.

When the 22 M1A1 Abrams departed the continent it was seen as the end of an era, as tanks had been a fixture on American bases in Europe since landing at Omaha Beach in 1944.

Now, it appears that chapter of history may have been closed a bit prematurely.

On Friday, the last of 29 M1A2 SEPv2 Abrams tanks were offloaded at the railhead at the Grafenwöhr training facilities. These heavily armored vehicles are upgraded versions of the older Abrams that left 10 months ago and will become part of what the Joint Multinational Training Command at Grafenwöhr is calling the European Activity Set.

“The EAS is a pre-positioned, battalion-plus-size equipment set with headquarters pieces and command-and-control elements,” said Col. Thomas Matsel, operations officer with the JMTC. “Units that utilize the EAS will have access to the entire breadth of military operations they may have to conduct.”

The Abrams tanks will join 33 M2A3 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and dozens of other heavy support vehicles that will be positioned at Grafenwöhr to be used at the training facilities there, at the Joint Multinational Readiness Center at Hohenfels and at other training areas across Europe.


But of course overlooked in all this is the fact that wars and overseas deployments create veterans. While away at war, we may disagree with the methods of support via outside vendors, shady no-bid contracts, and other mercenary groups, but for the most part our troops have food, shelter, and other such basic necessities. All of which generally changes once they get home and take off the uniform. Our constant state of war means we have a constant flow of veterans back and forth from our shores. Not all of them are doing well.


Retired Air Force Col. Robert Freniere unintentionally became the public face for homeless veterans after a Philadelphia newspaper wrote about his struggle to find work.

Freniere spent just over 30 years in the military, and after he was medically retired in 2006 at age 51 he landed a job with a defense contractor in Afghanistan earning $150,000 per year.

But he returned to the U.S. in 2012 to a weak economy, sequestration and the winding down of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And few job opportunities.

Soon, Freniere became one of an estimated 57,000 homeless veterans in 2013, an estimate drawn from the U.S. government’s Point in Time Count, which is meant to provide a snapshot of how many veterans are homeless on a given night. The 2013 figure shows a 24 percent decline since 2010, according to the Veterans Affairs Department.

But Freniere’s situation is complex, and contributing to his homelessness are family issues, financial obligations and other unique circumstances.

The frequent separations from family during deployments, the transition from the military to civilian life and the mental and physical impacts of service can amplify the factors that lead to homelessness, said Kelly Caffarelli, president of the Home Depot Foundation, which helps veterans and their families get the housing they need.

“Historically, veterans are twice as likely to be homeless as their civilian counterparts,” Caffarelli said in a Jan. 23 interview.


Finally this morning...the last two decades of sacrifice in blood and treasure might have been worth it had we actually done something. I'm pretty sure about what the general consensus is among the participants here. It looks like the national polling data is reflecting the same thing - none of this was worth it.


WASHINGTON — As two of the nation's longest wars finally end, most Americans have concluded that neither achieved its goals.

Those grim assessments in a USA TODAY/Pew Research Center poll underscore the erosion in support for the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and the loss of faith in the outcome of the wars, both launched in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. The public's soured attitudes may make it harder the next time a president tries to persuade Americans of the value of military action when it involves putting thousands of U.S. troops in harm's way.

In the survey:

• On Iraq, Americans by 52%-37% say the United States mostly failed to achieve its goals. That is a decidedly more negative view than in November 2011, when U.S. combat troops withdrew. Then, by 56%-33%, those surveyed said the U.S. had mostly succeeded.

• On Afghanistan, Americans by a nearly identical 52%-38% say the U.S. has mostly failed to achieve its goals. In 2011, a month after Osama bin Laden was killed, a majority predicted the war would succeed.

"What is especially interesting about these responses is that the public has continued to update its views on Iraq and Afghanistan despite the fact that these wars have received virtually no attention at all from our politicians over the past couple of years," said Christopher Gelpi, a political scientist at Ohio State University who has studied attitudes toward the conflicts. "This shows that the public is more attentive to costly wars than we might expect, even when politicians try to ignore the conflicts."

In recent months, news reports from Iraq have centered on renewed fighting with al-Qaeda fighters and a government riven along sectarian lines. In Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai has resisted American demands to sign a security agreement setting out the U.S. role once combat forces are withdrawn by the end of the year.

Americans continue to distinguish between the two conflicts when it comes to the justification made for using military force.

By 10 percentage points, 51%-41%, Americans say the U.S. made the right decision in using military force in Afghanistan, where the Taliban had provided safe haven for the al-Qaeda terrorists who planned the 9/11 attacks. Still, that narrow majority does reflect a significant shift in views. In 2006, two-thirds of Americans said invading Afghanistan was the right decision.

But when it comes to Iraq, support for the decision to go to war has crashed. The invasion was launched in March 2003 with Bush administration officials asserting President Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, though they were never found. At the beginning, Americans by 3-1 called it the right decision.

Now, by 50%-38%, they call it the wrong one.

The poll of 1,504 adults taken Jan. 15-19 has a margin of error of +/-3 percentage points.


Things are sure feeling a little Orwellian these days, aren't they?
 

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Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 13:58:36
Couple of things, first; a single battalion of tanks whoopee! We do have NATO commitments. Second; wars don't create vets, being in the military creates vets.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2014 14:00:18
Mornin' all.. Monthly meeting day, huzzah!

So um what the hell?!

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 14:05:49
Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2014 14:06:19
Oh hey.. Sandra Fluke is running to fill Waxman's seat in Congress!

<-- Rushbo's head

Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2014 14:07:06
Morning

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 14:22:05
So, about that bridge closure story....
Gov. Chris Christie said Monday that he may have heard about congestion on the George Washington Bridge last fall – but that it did not register as anything more than regular traffic jams because he was not aware his aides had ordered lanes blocked, apparently for political retribution. He called the recurring questions about what he knew and when "a game of gotcha."

(snip)

Christie, 51, reiterated during the radio show that he did not know about the planning or execution of the lane closings near the bridge in Fort Lee. He disputed the account of a former loyalist, who said Friday there was evidence the governor knew about the closings while they were happening over four days in September, which is earlier than Christie has acknowledged.



Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 14:30:51
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh hey.. Sandra Fluke is running to fill Waxman's seat in Congress!

<-- Rushbo's head
You think Williamson is going to step aside? I really hope she does.


Comment by BobR on 02/04/2014 14:31:57

This deserves a political cartoon of Christie and other "fat cats" sitting around a table eating poor children.

Comment by velveeta jones on 02/04/2014 14:39:48
Heartwarming story here!

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 14:47:38
Quote by velveeta jones:
Heartwarming story here!
Oh, yes. The world needs more of this!


Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 15:34:38
Quote by velveeta jones:
Heartwarming story here!



:thumbs up:

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 15:37:42
Dear Salon.com.

Please cut your ties with the dumb-fuckery that that Alternet.

Thanks!



Comment by TriSec on 02/04/2014 15:50:38
Rachel is right. The Speaker is really bad at his job.

This:


House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, says House Republicans are aiming for deficit-reduction steps as part of any deal to raise debt limit - @Reuters


But earlier this morning, the CBO said this:


US budget deficit to drop to $514 billion this year, lowest of Obama's tenure, Congressional Budget Office says - @AP


When does "Conservative" become "Reactionary"?




Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 16:04:30
Quote by TriSec:
Rachel is right. The Speaker is really bad at his job.

This:


House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, says House Republicans are aiming for deficit-reduction steps as part of any deal to raise debt limit - @Reuters


But earlier this morning, the CBO said this:


US budget deficit to drop to $514 billion this year, lowest of Obama's tenure, Congressional Budget Office says - @AP


When does "Conservative" become "Reactionary"?





Um about 15-20 years ago.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/04/2014 16:24:51
Quote by Raine:
So, about that bridge closure story....
Gov. Chris Christie said Monday that he may have heard about congestion on the George Washington Bridge last fall – but that it did not register as anything more than regular traffic jams because he was not aware his aides had ordered lanes blocked, apparently for political retribution. He called the recurring questions about what he knew and when "a game of gotcha."

(snip)

Christie, 51, reiterated during the radio show that he did not know about the planning or execution of the lane closings near the bridge in Fort Lee. He disputed the account of a former loyalist, who said Friday there was evidence the governor knew about the closings while they were happening over four days in September, which is earlier than Christie has acknowledged.



What's his age got to do with it? Are they going for an early senility excuse? Harbinger of a stroke?

Comment by BobR on 02/04/2014 17:05:48
Comment by BobR on 02/04/2014 17:23:17
Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 18:00:10
Very interesting....
Among the groups that were allegedly overgenerous to Boehner were Coalpac and Minepac, which represent the mining industry, as well as political committees representing the Exelon, Constellation and Luminant power companies, and the Ceasars and Penn National gambling enterprises.

"Although the commission may take further legal action concerning the acceptance of excessive contributions, your prompt action to refund the excessive amount will be taken into consideration," the letters say.




Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 18:09:57
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/04/2014 18:13:42
Hello, bloggers!! I hope that everyone is doing well.

I am likely going to get my old car towed away today. As soon as I get one more tax document, I intend to file for 2013 and see what I can do in regards to a car. Here, in NW Indiana, public transit is almost an illusion -- save for rail lines into Chicago.

While I could not post my home photos of snow here yesterday, I found a story on WGN about an 18 foot tall ready snowman in Indianapolis.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 18:17:59



Why do we care? It is the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They haven't been interesting in what, 20 years?

Comment by livingonli on 02/04/2014 18:29:30
Good day, folks. Slept late today so I must have been more tired than I thought. Just would like a night or morning where my sleep does not get interrupted.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2014 18:41:45
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.



His whole thing seems to be cause we can control the safety of refining oil that comes out of our ground. Maybe I don't understand this correctly but wasn't the whole point of Keystone to move Canadian oil from Canada to the ports in the south?

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 19:03:14
Scotland just legalized same sex marriage!

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 19:03:46
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.



His whole thing seems to be cause we can control the safety of refining oil that comes out of our ground. Maybe I don't understand this correctly but wasn't the whole point of Keystone to move Canadian oil from Canada to the ports in the south?
That was my impression as well.


Comment by Scoopster on 02/04/2014 19:15:15
Quote by Mondobubba:

Why do we care? It is the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They haven't been interesting in what, 20 years?



Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/04/2014 19:17:59
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.



His whole thing seems to be cause we can control the safety of refining oil that comes out of our ground. Maybe I don't understand this correctly but wasn't the whole point of Keystone to move Canadian oil from Canada to the ports in the south?
That was my impression as well.



The pipeline likely will be prone to leaks as the tar sands slurry is somewhat acidic. I think that Ed is wrong on this issue.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2014 19:27:34
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.



His whole thing seems to be cause we can control the safety of refining oil that comes out of our ground. Maybe I don't understand this correctly but wasn't the whole point of Keystone to move Canadian oil from Canada to the ports in the south?
That was my impression as well.



The pipeline likely will be prone to leaks as the tar sands slurry is somewhat acidic. I think that Ed is wrong on this issue.



I think he is too. He's saying that its safer then moving it by rail.

Comment by BobR on 02/04/2014 19:35:40
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.



His whole thing seems to be cause we can control the safety of refining oil that comes out of our ground. Maybe I don't understand this correctly but wasn't the whole point of Keystone to move Canadian oil from Canada to the ports in the south?
That was my impression as well.

The pipeline likely will be prone to leaks as the tar sands slurry is somewhat acidic. I think that Ed is wrong on this issue.

I think he is too. He's saying that its safer then moving it by rail.

How about they move that nasty shit to their own shore lines, and ship it out from there?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/04/2014 19:58:55
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.



His whole thing seems to be cause we can control the safety of refining oil that comes out of our ground. Maybe I don't understand this correctly but wasn't the whole point of Keystone to move Canadian oil from Canada to the ports in the south?
That was my impression as well.

The pipeline likely will be prone to leaks as the tar sands slurry is somewhat acidic. I think that Ed is wrong on this issue.

I think he is too. He's saying that its safer then moving it by rail.

How about they move that nasty shit to their own shore lines, and ship it out from there?


Construct sprinkler systems in the Canadian PM's home and all the homes of people involved in this to and connect them to an oil pipeline. If a leak is detected anywhere, turn on the sprinklers.

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 20:05:54
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe my ears.

Ed is actually supporting the Keystone Pipeline.



His whole thing seems to be cause we can control the safety of refining oil that comes out of our ground. Maybe I don't understand this correctly but wasn't the whole point of Keystone to move Canadian oil from Canada to the ports in the south?
That was my impression as well.

The pipeline likely will be prone to leaks as the tar sands slurry is somewhat acidic. I think that Ed is wrong on this issue.

I think he is too. He's saying that its safer then moving it by rail.

How about they move that nasty shit to their own shore lines, and ship it out from there?
I actually heard him say that it will only be about 500 barrels a year that would leak. :shock:

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 20:21:19
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 20:39:33
Comment by wickedpam on 02/04/2014 20:41:58



very cool

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 20:42:01



There is a beverage involved, man! I could watch that all damn day!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/04/2014 20:46:30
Grrrrr

Mrs Rabbit called. She said she went to the bank. And got lost on the way home.

Home is within sight of the bank, though probably not hers any more.

(no she can't drive, though maybe I should disable her car, just in case)

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 21:17:49
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Grrrrr

Mrs Rabbit called. She said she went to the bank. And got lost on the way home.

Home is within sight of the bank, though probably not hers any more.

(no she can't drive, though maybe I should disable her car, just in case)
Oh, how scary!


Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 21:18:05
WTF, BYU???

Friends don’t let friends masturbate to pornography in their dorm rooms at Brigham Young University-Idaho.


Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 21:18:46
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Grrrrr

Mrs Rabbit called. She said she went to the bank. And got lost on the way home.

Home is within sight of the bank, though probably not hers any more.

(no she can't drive, though maybe I should disable her car, just in case)



Two steps forward, and then a step back. Hang tough, Rabbit.

Comment by TriSec on 02/04/2014 21:25:58
Quote by Mondobubba:
Friends don’t let friends masturbate to pornography in their dorm rooms at Brigham Young University-Idaho.


Erm, they do it in groups???



Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/04/2014 21:26:52
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Grrrrr

Mrs Rabbit called. She said she went to the bank. And got lost on the way home.

Home is within sight of the bank, though probably not hers any more.

(no she can't drive, though maybe I should disable her car, just in case)



Trojanrabbit, it might be wise to do so.

I will keep her in my thoughts and prayers, and you as well.


Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 21:27:57
Quote by Mondobubba:
WTF, BYU???

Friends don’t let friends masturbate to pornography in their dorm rooms at Brigham Young University-Idaho.
Sperm, the casualty of the war on masterbation.


Comment by BobR on 02/04/2014 21:32:52
Quote by wickedpam:



very cool

LEGOs! now your talking MY geek language...

Comment by Raine on 02/04/2014 21:37:22
o.O that was quite the caller on Randi.

Comment by BobR on 02/04/2014 21:43:32
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Friends don’t let friends masturbate to pornography in their dorm rooms at Brigham Young University-Idaho.


Erm, they do it in groups???


sperm-formance art?

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 22:30:47
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
WTF, BYU???

Friends don’t let friends masturbate to pornography in their dorm rooms at Brigham Young University-Idaho.
Sperm, the casualty of the war on masterbation.




Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 22:47:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
WTF, BYU???

Friends don’t let friends masturbate to pornography in their dorm rooms at Brigham Young University-Idaho.


Let's parse this out a little shall we?

Is it okay masturbate in your dorm room and BYU if it is without porn?
Would it be okay to fantasize about Marie Osmond while you are masturbating in your dorm room at BYU?

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 22:48:26
I am stopping now.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/04/2014 22:56:09
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:



very cool

LEGOs! now your talking MY geek language...



We geeks do love the LEGO don't we?