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Author: TriSec    Date: 05/20/2008 10:46:56

Good Morning. Today is our 1,889th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the Warron Terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4079
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3940
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3618
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3220
Since Election (1/31/05): 2642

Other Coalition Troops: 312
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 501


We find this morning's cost of war passing through $ 521, 170, 625, 000.00


Not quite a veteran's issue, but I couldn't let this one pass. Much has been made in recent days over Sen. Obama's diplomacy proposals...that is, doing the untinkable thing of actually talking to those in the world that would disagree with us. Of course, other countries in the world agree this is a good thing. France, for example, has been talking to Hamas for months.


PARIS, May 19 -- France has had contacts with the leaders of the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas "for several months," French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said Monday.

"We must be able to talk if we want to play a role," Kouchner said in a radio interview. "These are not relations, they are contacts."

Kouchner's remarks followed the publication Monday of an interview with France's emissary to Hamas -- a former ambassador to Iraq -- in the daily newspaper Le Figaro.

The disclosure of French contacts with Hamas, which the United States and European Union consider a terrorist organization, followed an uproar in the U.S. presidential campaign over the issue of government contacts with sponsors of terrorism.

President Bush, during a Middle East visit last week, told the Israeli parliament, "Some seem to believe we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along." He compared the willingness to meet with "terrorists and radicals" to the pre-World War II "appeasement" of Nazi Germany.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama chastised Bush for what he said was an obvious slap at his comments that the United States should open lines of communication with countries such as Iran and Syria in an effort to advance peace. The senator from Illinois has not advocated negotiating with the Hamas organization.

Hamas defeated the Fatah movement, long dominant in the Palestinian territories, in January 2006 parliamentary elections. After a power-sharing deal failed, Hamas last June forcibly took control of the Gaza Strip, where it is much stronger and more influential than Fatah, which continues to control the Palestinian Authority from its base in the West Bank.

Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter drew criticism from Israel and the Bush administration for meeting with Hamas leaders in Damascus, Syria, last month.

Regarding the French contacts, Israeli officials said they had been assured that France's policy had not changed.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said, "We don't believe it is helpful to the process of bringing peace to the region."

Carter and French emissary Yves Aubin de la Messuzi¿re gave similar accounts of their separate sessions with Hamas, saying its leadership appeared willing to moderate its political positions.

Kouchner, in his interview with Europe 1 radio, said Hamas still does not recognize the state of Israel but is "more flexible than before" on the subject. Historically, Hamas has called for Israel's elimination.

"They assured that they were ready to accept a Palestinian state," de la Messuzi¿re told Le Figaro, adding that the statement "amounts to an indirect recognition of Israel."

"They said they were ready to stop suicide attacks and, what surprised me is that the Islamist leaders recognize the legitimacy of Mahmoud Abbas," said de la Messuzi¿re, referring to the Palestinian Authority president from Fatah.

De la Messuzi¿re said he met with the Hamas prime minister, Ismael Haniyeh, and his Gaza foreign minister, Mahmoud Zahar.

The government announced its contacts with Hamas because "we must do so clearly" and with the full knowledge of France's partners, Kouchner said.




Perhaps you've heard of the story of Matthis Chiroux by now. He served for four years in non-combat areas in the US Army, and was honorably discharged last year. However, he was recently stop-lossed and ordered to report to the war in Iraq. He's not going.
Sgt. Matthis Chiroux, who served in the Army until being honorably discharged last summer after over four years of service in Afghanistan, Japan, Europe and the Phillipines, today publicly announced his intention to refuse orders to deploy to Iraq.

Sgt. Chiroux made made his announcement in the Cannon House Office Building Rotunda after members of Iraq Veterans Against the War testified before the Congressional Progressive Caucus during Winter Soldier on the Hill.

Sgt. Chiroux made the following statement to the press. (Video of his announcement is also available.)

Good afternoon. My name is Sgt. Matthis Chiroux, and I served in the Army as a Photojournalist until being honorably discharged last summer after over four years of service in Afghanistan, Japan, Europe and the Phillipines. As an Army journalist whose job it was to collect and filter servicemember's stories, I heard many stomach-churning testimonies of the horrors and crimes taking place in Iraq. For fear of retaliation from the military, I failed to report these crimes, but never again will I allow fear to silence me. Never again will I fail to stand.

In February, I received a letter from the Army ordering my return to active duty, for the purpose of mobilization for Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Thanks in great part to the truths of war being fearlessly spoken by my fellow IVAW members, I stand before you today with the strength, clarity and resolve to declare to the military and the world that this Soldier will not be deploying to Iraq.

This occupation is unconstitutional and illegal and I hereby lawfully refuse to participate as I will surely be a party to war crimes. Furthermore, deployment in support of illegal war violates all of my core values as a human being, but in keeping with those values, I choose to remain in the United States to defend myself from charges brought by the Army if they so wish to pursue them. I refuse to participate in the occupation of Iraq.



I'm going to leave it at that today....



 

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Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 12:31:43
I heard about this yesterday. Good on him!

Comment by m-hadley on 05/20/2008 13:00:30
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:

Hope you all have a great day. I think that Sgt. Matthis Chiroux is a true hero, like Ehren Watada. Bless all war resisters! :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 13:12:33
Good morning!

Comment by Shane-O on 05/20/2008 13:23:17
Morning all!

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 13:31:43
I posted this yesterday, but with your post it bears repeating.







And there's this one too:





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 13:41:44
For those that missed last nights Photoshop fun...

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/dr_McEvil.jpg




Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 13:46:02
Has the speech from the Obama rally yesterday been posted anywhere?



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 13:50:26
Men are allowed to cry at "Brian's Song" as well...

Comment by Shane-O on 05/20/2008 13:51:22
And "Rudy"!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 13:52:26
I thought that was one of the first "guy" crying movies along with Shane and Old Yeller

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 13:52:52
BTW - Morning :hug:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 13:53:00
Quote by shelaghc:

Has the speech from the Obama rally yesterday been posted anywhere?







Here is a small snippet, I am trying to find a longer version.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/20/2008 13:53:32
Good morning all! Two more days! (I'm not excited or anything..)



Holy shoop Raine.. where did you find that one?!

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 13:56:09
Just a thought - now that Rachel had the highest ratings all newsday last Friday, does this mean no one but Rachel will ever ever fill in for KO?



:pray:

Comment by Shane-O on 05/20/2008 13:57:30
Quote by wickedpam:

I thought that was one of the first "guy" crying movies along with Shane and Old Yeller




Oh dear please don't mention that movie.



I cannot count the number of times been asked to "please come back."

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 13:58:29
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by wickedpam:

I thought that was one of the first "guy" crying movies along with Shane and Old Yeller




Oh dear please don't mention that movie.



I cannot count the number of times been asked to "please come back."






:spit:



Comment by Shane-O on 05/20/2008 14:00:29
Although I do wish that Momma wanted me... ("I know she does")

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:01:04
Quote by Scoopster:

Good morning all! Two more days! (I'm not excited or anything..)



Holy shoop Raine.. where did you find that one?!


Heya Scoop! I made it yesterday!



Today I am gonna try to do one of Dr. Evil and Number 2 (feat. LIEberman.)

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/20/2008 14:10:06
Morning all! Great post, and great video's from the YouTubes.



:D

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:11:19
Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:16:31
It's John McCains Junta: Lobbyists.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:19:59
Wow. Sweden sounds cool!

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 14:20:13
Morning folks... :coffee:



In the office now - what movie was being discussed?



Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 14:21:26
Hey Shelagh - I put the DVDs in the mail yesterday. I'll email you with more details later...

Comment by Scoopster on 05/20/2008 14:21:58
Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 14:24:05


Yikes - I guess it's safe to say that most of us are probably on one of those lists...

Comment by Shane-O on 05/20/2008 14:24:13
Quote by Raine:

Wow. Sweden sounds cool!




Jim's voice reminds me of The Muppets - The Swedish Chef...



Perhaps a bit could be there...



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:26:01
Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 14:26:43




Ooooh! Oooooh! Me! Me! Me!



Oh, wait...it wasn't that kind of question. :kickcan:





I guess we know who our cellmates will be at Gitmo. At least we'll be among friends.





Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 14:28:03
Quote by Scoopster:

Oh yeah.. the Creationists are STILL a problem.


That looks interesting, but I don't have time to read it now (it's very long). Remind me to read it later... :P

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:43:55
Oh caller.



As an aside:



A clinton supporter on the TV machine just said that Barack Obama is scared of Hillary like Michaek Douglas was of Glenn Close in Fatal attraction.



Mika (name? MSNBC) said that was a terrible analogy. The Obama supporter said it was NOT appropriate.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 14:44:32
Did the blog break?......



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 14:44:35
I am sick of hearing that Obama supporters have to be gracious winners (and, yes, it's true), but just have to TAKE whatever Clinton's campaign and supporters decide to pull out. It's BULL.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:45:47
Quote by shelaghc:

Did the blog break?......

It seems like it burped.







Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 14:47:18
Quote by Raine:

Oh caller.



As an aside:



A clinton supporter on the TV machine just said that Barack Obama is scared of Hillary like Michaek Douglas was of Glenn Close in Fatal attraction.



Mika (name? MSNBC) said that was a terrible analogy. The Obama supporter said it was NOT appropriate.


Maybe Hillary should use the Talking Heads "Psycho Killer" as her theme song:

Psycho Killer

Qu'est-ce que c'est

fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better

Run run run run run run run away



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:47:20
Quote by jd_in_ny:

I am sick of hearing that Obama supporters have to be gracious winners (and, yes, it's true), but just have to TAKE whatever Clinton's campaign and supporters decide to pull out. It's BULL.


elitist.























:P

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:49:19
BTW, only about 25% of voters are expected to turn out in Kentucky today. Remember that when the spinmeisers start doing what they do.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:51:56
I love Sanchez. I wish we could get him to blog here.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 14:51:58
News Flash from TriSecLand:



I'm ahead of my podcasts this week....I am actually listening to Momma right now!!



And I'll probably get Thom on later, too!



:party:





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:53:30
You know, Everyone who says that Hillary is the better candidate based upon how states voted in the past don't get something.



This is not a normal election year. ALL the old rules no longer apply. MSNBC just said that GEORGIA may go for Barack.



Georgia.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 14:56:03
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 15:00:21
Quote by Raine:

You know, Everyone who says that Hillary is the better candidate based upon how states voted in the past don't get something.



This is not a normal election year. ALL the old rules no longer apply. MSNBC just said that GEORGIA may go for Barack.



Georgia.


I know! The pollsters don't know what to do with all the new voters coming out this year - how do you calculate "likely voters"? how do you effectively reach people who don't have land lines?

And any argument that posits that Obama won't win CA and NY is just freakin' ridiculous.



Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 15:00:24
Ya know, where is the media coming up with this "bitter democrat" syndrome?



I've had vigorous arguments with both family and friends who support the Senator from New York, but thus far we've always parted with a "no matter what happens, I'm still voting for whoever has the "D" after their name in November..."



I have yet to personally encounter a Hillary or Barack supporter that is not planning on showing up if their candidate loses...





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:01:21
I like this caller.



Sadly, and I am going to say it, hillary IS becoming all the BAD stereotypes of woman. She yells, she nags, and she doesn't know when the fight over. Feminism is about more than just being a tough 'broad'. IT is more than just screaming that you have been treated unfairly. You don't get to claim SEXISM and then say you are a feminist.



And yes, I am a feminist.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/20/2008 15:02:15




Thanks so much for posting this Raine!

I knew that Obama had been to the Crow Agency yesterday, but hadn't seen the video - thanks again :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:03:11
HAs anyone else heard that DAvid PAtterson (Gov. NYS ) was hospitalized? I heard it was for Migraine-like symptoms.







Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:05:43
I despise Geraldine Ferrarro.



ON MSNBC right now she just said that Barack Obama is "terribly Sexist" and she said she doesn't think she would vote for him, ALL the same time as she is saying that it is VERY important to get a dem in office.



I have a few sexist words in my thought bubble right now.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 15:06:20
NovaM....heat advisory in Phoenix, with a high of 109º.



Oh, that sounds nice. (54º in Boston, 4 days before Memorial Day Weekend.)





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:07:27
Faye, you have given me incredible insight to this issue, it was the least I could do. I learn so much from everyone here.



So, my friend, you are welcome!

IT was great, wasn't it?

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/20/2008 15:11:09
Quote by BobR:



Yikes - I guess it's safe to say that most of us are probably on one of those lists...


I think I'm safe. I was "busy" * during the 80's



(*"busy* verb: in a state of non-existence via drugs and alcohol)



:D

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:11:32
Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:12:33
We had Joy we had fun, we had seasons in the sun... <--- oh, wait....

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:14:21
A belated good morning. I had a 9:40 Endocrinologist appointment and it was tough enough for me to get up this morning after being up past 3 AM (these hours are killing me).



Now my next visit is to the nutritionist. I have to eat better which is tough with the schedule and the poor selection of eating places by me.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 15:15:00
Quote by Raine:

I like this caller.



Sadly, and I am going to say it, hillary IS becoming all the BAD stereotypes of woman. She yells, she nags, and she doesn't know when the fight over. Feminism is about more than just being a tough 'broad'. IT is more than just screaming that you have been treated unfairly. You don't get to claim SEXISM and then say you are a feminist.



And yes, I am a feminist.


I always assumed feminism was about being an equal human being and freedom of choice.



It's NOT about bashing men, or using sex as a weapon.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:16:00
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by BobR:



Yikes - I guess it's safe to say that most of us are probably on one of those lists...


I think I'm safe. I was "busy" * during the 80's



(*"busy* verb: in a state of non-existence via drugs and alcohol)



:D
I do not think I am safe. I am pretty sure Raygun got some pics of me in Die-in's around 1985. I was protesting with ACT UP.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/20/2008 15:16:02
Quote by Raine:

I like this caller.



Sadly, and I am going to say it, hillary IS becoming all the BAD stereotypes of woman. She yells, she nags, and she doesn't know when the fight over. Feminism is about more than just being a tough 'broad'. IT is more than just screaming that you have been treated unfairly. You don't get to claim SEXISM and then say you are a feminist.



And yes, I am a feminist.


I agree.

:(



Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 15:17:14
Quote by livingonli:

A belated good morning. I had a 9:40 Endocrinologist appointment and it was tough enough for me to get up this morning after being up past 3 AM (these hours are killing me).



Now my next visit is to the nutritionist. I have to eat better which is tough with the schedule and the poor selection of eating places by me.


You're going to have to start brown-bagging it...

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 15:17:42
Morning all. I couldn't get to sleep last night! I finally bedded down at about four this morning. :wacko:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:19:52
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

I like this caller.



Sadly, and I am going to say it, hillary IS becoming all the BAD stereotypes of woman. She yells, she nags, and she doesn't know when the fight over. Feminism is about more than just being a tough 'broad'. IT is more than just screaming that you have been treated unfairly. You don't get to claim SEXISM and then say you are a feminist.



And yes, I am a feminist.


I always assumed feminism was about being an equal human being and freedom of choice.



It's NOT about bashing men, or using sex as a weapon.
your assumption is correct.









Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 15:24:05
Quote by Raine:



:D
I do not think I am safe. I am pretty sure Raygun got some pics of me in Die-in's around 1985. I was protesting with ACT UP.




Eeep! If we're looking in the rear-view mirror...well....



I uh, belonged to the Communist Club at school in the mid-80s. Never did officially join the American Communist Party, though. Graduated and went to work and kind of moved away from it.



Although I recall a dear friend being worried about my politics in those days. He's a Hilary supporter now.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 15:24:46
Quote by Raine:

Patterson Hospitalized






Geez - with Ted Kennedy that's two! Who's the third going to be?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 15:25:44
: scans blog: Yep Rudy is the number one guy cry movie.



There is a great jazz story about Shane. Billy Crystal's uncle Milt Gabler, owned Commodore Records. One of the artists under contract to the label was Billie Holiday. Billie was given the task of baby sitting young Billy one day. She took him to see Shane, at the end of the movie it is reported that after the last words are uttered Lady Day said, "He ain't commin' back Honey!"

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:27:25
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

I like this caller.



Sadly, and I am going to say it, hillary IS becoming all the BAD stereotypes of woman. She yells, she nags, and she doesn't know when the fight over. Feminism is about more than just being a tough 'broad'. IT is more than just screaming that you have been treated unfairly. You don't get to claim SEXISM and then say you are a feminist.



And yes, I am a feminist.


I agree.

:(

I didn't say this lightly. I think y'all know that.



having breasts and running for president doesn't give you a free pass to being a feminist.



This is politics, it is hard and it's messy, and HRC did an amazing thing ... she is a truly viable candidate for POTUS.



it isn't right to use the feminist card when you are losing. These are the hard breaks. HEr NOT winning this campaign is not about sexism or misogyny. IT is simple, she ran a bad campaign. Taht has nothing to do with sex.



That being said, when you get to the point of losing, PLEASE don't act like the sterotypes that all our foresisters fought so hard to remove.



We don't accept machismo BS from men either for a reason... and that believe it or not is a part of feminsim as well.



There is no crying OR ball grabbing in politcs!

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:27:37
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by BobR:



Yikes - I guess it's safe to say that most of us are probably on one of those lists...


I think I'm safe. I was "busy" * during the 80's



(*"busy* verb: in a state of non-existence via drugs and alcohol)



:D
I do not think I am safe. I am pretty sure Raygun got some pics of me in Die-in's around 1985. I was protesting with ACT UP.


Don't forget anyone who protested Ray-Gun's policies in Central America during that decade.



And as for war resisters, a number of people trying to get out of being shipped to Iraq have tried to seek asylum in Canada. But thanks to the current Tory government of Bush's other butt sniffer, Stephen Harper, they have been less receptive to accepting asylum claims compared to during the war in Vietnam.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:28:16
Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning all. I couldn't get to sleep last night! I finally bedded down at about four this morning. :wacko:
That was me on Sunday nite.







Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:29:44
OK. Grampy on the TV machine, talking about Cuba.



Uhm...



NOT to dismiss the people of Cuba, but he is talking like the castro regime is as dangerous as it was about 40 years ago.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 15:30:48
Quote by livingonli:

A belated good morning. I had a 9:40 Endocrinologist appointment and it was tough enough for me to get up this morning after being up past 3 AM (these hours are killing me).



Now my next visit is to the nutritionist. I have to eat better which is tough with the schedule and the poor selection of eating places by me.




I told you one alternative. Eating out go to Applebees they have very healthy selections and are working with Weight Watchers.



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:31:40
Quote by livingonli:

Don't forget anyone who protested Ray-Gun's policies in Central America during that decade.

Oh, I did that as well.



I am so on that list.



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 15:31:51
I think it's terrible that they're not acknowledging that OBAMA is a feminist, too!

I told my mom about Ferraro and she was terribly disappointed in that mindset

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 15:32:07
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

A belated good morning. I had a 9:40 Endocrinologist appointment and it was tough enough for me to get up this morning after being up past 3 AM (these hours are killing me).



Now my next visit is to the nutritionist. I have to eat better which is tough with the schedule and the poor selection of eating places by me.


You're going to have to start brown-bagging it...






That's what I do. I have a cold pack and I tote in my salad and fruit with my 100 cal packs and an afternoon snack. Saves tons of cash too.



Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 15:32:46
Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning all. I couldn't get to sleep last night! I finally bedded down at about four this morning. :wacko:






something on your mind? :hug:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:33:27
Quote by shelaghc:

Quote by Raine:

Patterson Hospitalized






Geez - with Ted Kennedy that's two! Who's the third going to be?
you just reminded me of something...



Did you know that John McCain has now missed MORE votes in the senate than Tim Johnson?



Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:34:53
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Don't forget anyone who protested Ray-Gun's policies in Central America during that decade.

Oh, I did that as well.



I am so on that list.



I wonder if they will put us all together in the same camp.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 15:35:28
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:



:D
I do not think I am safe. I am pretty sure Raygun got some pics of me in Die-in's around 1985. I was protesting with ACT UP.




Eeep! If we're looking in the rear-view mirror...well....



I uh, belonged to the Communist Club at school in the mid-80s. Never did officially join the American Communist Party, though. Graduated and went to work and kind of moved away from it.



Although I recall a dear friend being worried about my politics in those days. He's a Hilary supporter now.






Lemme see. I'm sure that I was photographed going into the PRC embassy when my entire international relation class was meeting with one of the diplomats. I was protesting in front of the South African embassy in I think it was '84. There was the anti-Regan protest in Baltimore on Columbus Day in 84. The anti Goldie Hawn picket line with AADL about "Protocual." Oh and my uncle, the Indian agent, he was very good friends with Russell Means and other leaders of AIM.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:36:09
Quote by jd_in_ny:

I think it's terrible that they're not acknowledging that OBAMA is a feminist, too!

I told my mom about Ferraro and she was terribly disappointed in that mindset
hello to Momma JD!



Great point. So many people are acting like men can't be feminists as well. I thought we were past that.



I am married to a wonderful feminist. Would not have it any other way. (I had to get that plug in...)







Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:36:33
But does Laura Dern have a dark wig and a pair of fake breasts to convey the craziness that is Katherine Harris.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 15:37:23
My daddy is a feminist!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 15:37:29
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning all. I couldn't get to sleep last night! I finally bedded down at about four this morning. :wacko:






something on your mind? :hug:




Actually I think it was a bad combination of too much diet soda and caffine containing headache meds too late in evening.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 15:37:57
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Morning all. I couldn't get to sleep last night! I finally bedded down at about four this morning. :wacko:






something on your mind? :hug:




Actually I think it was a bad combination of too much diet soda and caffine containing headache meds too late in evening.




That could do it.



Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 15:38:00
Quote by livingonli:

A belated good morning. I had a 9:40 Endocrinologist appointment and it was tough enough for me to get up this morning after being up past 3 AM (these hours are killing me).



Now my next visit is to the nutritionist. I have to eat better which is tough with the schedule and the poor selection of eating places by me.




There are a lot of places nowadays that will make food for you and deliver it weekly. Seattle Sutton is a good one - they even deliver via DHL.



Just do a google search on something like healthy meal delivery and plug in your city and state.





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:38:37
Where is Random to remind us all how old we are?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 15:38:42
Quote by jd_in_ny:

My daddy is a feminist!






Mine's an asshat. (sorry that was stream on conscienceness(sp))

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 15:40:24
Quote by livingonli:



I wonder if they will put us all together in the same camp.


No. To quote the Offspring: "better keep 'em separated!"

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:40:28
Quote by Raine:

OK. Grampy on the TV machine, talking about Cuba.



Uhm...



NOT to dismiss the people of Cuba, but he is talking like the castro regime is as dangerous as it was about 40 years ago.


Grampy wants a war so bad he's creaming in his pants thinking about all these "evil" regimes.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:40:51
Quote by jd_in_ny:

My daddy is a feminist!
you all might not believe this. but so is mine.



Just don't tell him.



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 15:41:04
Quote by livingonli:

But does Laura Dern have a dark wig and a pair of fake breasts to convey the craziness that is Katherine Harris.






Oh yes indeedy! Here's a pic of La Dern as Krazy Katie. Can't tell about the boobs. :shrug:

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 15:42:33
Quote by Raine:

Where is Random to remind us all how old we are?


heh heh heh... I don't think I'm quite as young as Random, but I was born in the 80s (or "the 80")

I just remind myself that Carter was still President at the time

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:42:53
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

My daddy is a feminist!






Mine's an asshat. (sorry that was stream on conscienceness(sp))
Pff...







I am NOT a fan of your dad, Mala.

I think we need a little thought bubble emoticon. ;)





Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 15:45:22
Quote by livingonli:



Grampy wants a war so bad he's creaming in his pants thinking about all these "evil" regimes.


ewww...

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:45:38
Why doesn't Momma just cater her Thanksgiving dinner? It might guarantee that the food will be edible.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:45:47
THANK YOU CALLER! THANK YOU MOMMA!



HEy :clown:, I love you, but I gotchyur Turkey pot pie right here!



:rofl:

Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 15:46:37
:: passing through ::



Regarding talking to your enemy; when I was in the 7th Grade, my family and I moved to a new town. When school started, for some unknown reason, an 8th Grader decided to make me a target of name calling and general shenanigans designed to hurt my feelings. I don't know why. . . probably because I was the new kid. He recruited several other boys at my new school to join in the "fun" and made my life miserable for about 6 months.

One day, I saw him in the hallway. I got up every nerve in my body and walked up to him and said "Steven, why are you mean to me? Did I do something that upset you?

He shrugged sheepishly and mumbled "Mmmm, I dunno."

I responded "Well, it kind of hurts my feelings and it would be really cool if you could not do it anymore."

Another sheepish shrug and more mumbling ensued.

He and I never became friends, but he never said another mean word and nor did his "followers." One time he even mustered up a "Hey Terri" when we passed in the hallway.



And, that is a magical story about how talking can sometimes work.



End scene.



Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:47:17
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:



Grampy wants a war so bad he's creaming in his pants thinking about all these "evil" regimes.


ewww...




Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:47:35
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Where is Random to remind us all how old we are?


heh heh heh... I don't think I'm quite as young as Random, but I was born in the 80s (or "the 80")

I just remind myself that Carter was still President at the time
:thud:



I feel older and older everyday! (and that is ok, I earned every little wrinkle I get)



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:49:50
Quote by starling310:

:: passing through ::



Regarding talking to your enemy; when I was in the 7th Grade, my family and I moved to a new town. When school started, for some unknown reason, an 8th Grader decided to make me a target of name calling and general shenanigans designed to hurt my feelings. I don't know why. . . probably because I was the new kid. He recruited several other boys at my new school to join in the "fun" and made my life miserable for about 6 months.

One day, I saw him in the hallway. I got up every nerve in my body and walked up to him and said "Steven, why are you mean to me? Did I do something that upset you?

He shrugged sheepishly and mumbled "Mmmm, I dunno."

I responded "Well, it kind of hurts my feelings and it would be really cool if you could not do it anymore."

Another sheepish shrug and more mumbling ensued.

He and I never became friends, but he never said another mean word and nor did his "followers." One time he even mustered up a "Hey Terri" when we passed in the hallway.



And, that is a magical story about how talking can sometimes work.



End scene.









Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 15:53:02
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

My daddy is a feminist!






Mine's an asshat. (sorry that was stream on conscienceness(sp))
Pff...







I am NOT a fan of your dad, Mala.

I think we need a little thought bubble emoticon. ;)









That wasn't in my thought bubble.





Sorry just having a day.



Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 15:56:12
So Chimpy thinks being stop-lossed is the same as volunteering. What an idiotic asshat.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 15:58:08
Quote by jd_in_ny:



heh heh heh... I don't think I'm quite as young as Random, but I was born in the 80s (or "the 80")

I just remind myself that Carter was still President at the time


So I'm almost old enough to be your father.



Nice. :kickcan:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 15:58:52
The show went so fast today!

Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 15:59:08
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

:: passing through ::



Regarding talking to your enemy; when I was in the 7th Grade, my family and I moved to a new town. When school started, for some unknown reason, an 8th Grader decided to make me a target of name calling and general shenanigans designed to hurt my feelings. I don't know why. . . probably because I was the new kid. He recruited several other boys at my new school to join in the "fun" and made my life miserable for about 6 months.

One day, I saw him in the hallway. I got up every nerve in my body and walked up to him and said "Steven, why are you mean to me? Did I do something that upset you?

He shrugged sheepishly and mumbled "Mmmm, I dunno."

I responded "Well, it kind of hurts my feelings and it would be really cool if you could not do it anymore."

Another sheepish shrug and more mumbling ensued.

He and I never became friends, but he never said another mean word and nor did his "followers." One time he even mustered up a "Hey Terri" when we passed in the hallway.



And, that is a magical story about how talking can sometimes work.



End scene.











It was one of the few shining moments of my adolescence.

And, I often think about Steven and hope that perhaps it changed his thinking about being kind to others.





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 16:00:03
Quote by BobR:

Quote by jd_in_ny:



heh heh heh... I don't think I'm quite as young as Random, but I was born in the 80s (or "the 80")

I just remind myself that Carter was still President at the time


So I'm almost old enough to be your father.



Nice. :kickcan:
But you aren't, right?







:rofl:



Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 16:00:47
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Where is Random to remind us all how old we are?


heh heh heh... I don't think I'm quite as young as Random, but I was born in the 80s (or "the 80")

I just remind myself that Carter was still President at the time








Comment by velveeta jones on 05/20/2008 16:00:50
Quote by starling310:

:: passing through ::



Regarding talking to your enemy; when I was in the 7th Grade, my family and I moved to a new town. When school started, for some unknown reason, an 8th Grader decided to make me a target of name calling and general shenanigans designed to hurt my feelings. I don't know why. . . probably because I was the new kid. He recruited several other boys at my new school to join in the "fun" and made my life miserable for about 6 months.

One day, I saw him in the hallway. I got up every nerve in my body and walked up to him and said "Steven, why are you mean to me? Did I do something that upset you?

He shrugged sheepishly and mumbled "Mmmm, I dunno."

I responded "Well, it kind of hurts my feelings and it would be really cool if you could not do it anymore."

Another sheepish shrug and more mumbling ensued.

He and I never became friends, but he never said another mean word and nor did his "followers." One time he even mustered up a "Hey Terri" when we passed in the hallway.



And, that is a magical story about how talking can sometimes work.



End scene.





Tsk, tsk, Star. The proper etiquette in dealing with these loathsome baboons, is to find a nice gentlemen friend and have said gentlemen remove the glove from his hand and smack the unruly cad in the cheek, while challenging him to stop verbally assaulting ladies. Then, when the mischievous little punk has his eye on the glove, ........



kick him in the balls and run.







Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 16:00:55
You grew up in the 80s if...



Where's Random now? :modbat:



Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 16:01:37
jd - :hug:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 16:03:11
:star: I am sure it changed Steve. Absolutely.



I bet someday you WILL see him again, and you will know for sure. That story is really wonderful.





Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 16:03:14
Quote by wickedpam:

jd - :hug:


back atcha

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 16:03:29
Quote by TriSec:

You grew up in the 80s if...



Where's Random now? :modbat:





23. You wanted to be a Goonie.




Please - I didn't want to be a Goonie - I was a Goonie

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 16:04:56
Wha??? A supreme court ruling says same size paper money discriminates against Blind people?



Well YEAH!

I can't believe SCOTUS actually says so as well!







Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 16:05:13
Quote by TriSec:

You grew up in the 80s if...



Where's Random now? :modbat:





Is this a threat?



Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 16:07:16


Isn't there a 90's version? That might be more apropos. My growing up years went from the 70's into the 80's. Childhood years in the 70's and teen/college years in the 80's.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 16:07:23
Quote by TriSec:

You grew up in the 80s if...



Where's Random now? :modbat:



too much of that list applies...

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 16:08:18
Quote by livingonli:



Isn't there a 90's version? That might be more apropos. My growing up years went from the 70's into the 80's. Childhood years in the 70's and teen/college years in the 80's.




Growing up in the 90's, I watched a lot of 80's Cartoons.



Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 16:12:37
Then again I still find myself occasionally watching The Superfriends on Boomerang. :D

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 16:13:32
Quote by TriSec:

You grew up in the 80s if...



Where's Random now? :modbat:



A lot of those "You remember..." items could apply to anyone old enough to remember the 80's - you didn't necessarily have to have grown up then...



I do take offense to #10 and 13: The cartoons were better in the 60's and early 70's, and kids have been doing that with their bikes since before I had one.

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 16:14:50
Via the SMS blog via the Rachel Maddow blog according to the Telegraph, the 50 most influential US pundits;



50. RACHEL MADDOW

49. MARY MATALIN

48. PAUL KRUGMAN

47. JC WATTS

46. MARK LEVIN

45. FRED BARNES

44. JEFFREY TOOBIN

43. PAUL BEGALA

42. BILL BENNETT

41. MARK SHIELDS

40. TONY SNOW

39. DEE DEE MYERS

38. MICHAEL BARONE

37. EUGENE ROBINSON

36. NEWT GINGRICH

35. JOE TRIPPI

34. HOWARD KURTZ

33. ROLAND MARTIN

32. WILLIAM KRISTOL

31. JUAN WILLIAMS

30. PEGGY NOONAN

29. RON FOURNIER

28. JAMES CARVILLE

27. PAT BUCHANAN

26. ARIANNA HUFFINGTON

25. MICHAEL SAVAGE

24. LAURA INGRAHAM

23. MIKE ALLEN

22. DICK MORRIS

21. DAVID GERGEN

20. JOE KLEIN

19. DONNA BRAZILE

18. FRANK LUNTZ

17. ANDREW SULLIVAN

16. GLENN BECK

15. BILL MAHER

14. CHUCK TODD

13. KEITH OLBERMANN

12. BILL O’REILLY

11. STEPHEN COLBERT

10. MARK HALPERIN

9. DAVID BROOKS

8. JON STEWART

7. TIM RUSSERT

6. MATT DRUDGE

5. JOHN HARRIS AND JIM VANDEHEI

4. RUSH LIMBAUGH

3. SEAN HANNITY

2. CHRIS MATTHEWS

1. KARL ROVE


Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 16:14:52
Quote by Raine:

Where is Random to remind us all how old we are?




I'm not young...I've got 2 decades under my belt...granted, I have exactly 2 decades...but that's still 2 decades.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 16:16:03
:thud: I just took the "what drink are you" app on Facebook.



How the HELL did I become a mojito?!!?!?



:rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 16:17:49
Quote by Raine:

:thud: I just took the "what drink are you" app on Facebook.



How the HELL did I become a mojito?!!?!?



:rofl:


They don't have Raintini on the list?

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 16:21:21
here it is i show up for what little free time i have...And I'm ignored...Oh woe is me...



well...that was melodramatic.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 16:21:37
Quote by Raine:

Wha??? A supreme court ruling says same size paper money discriminates against Blind people?



Well YEAH!

I can't believe SCOTUS actually says so as well!







It's about damn time. Now how long until this country switches money over to non-discriminatory sizes like most other countries do?

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 16:24:38
Well this is intriguing. I was just setting up to record The Daily Show and the Colbert Report tonight on my Dish system - under "info" both shows are listed as "News/Business" just like Olbermann?.....



Who'da thunk it?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 16:27:59
Oy! 45 friggin' minutes to install Vista service pack one. Memo to Microsoft: try making this stuff work the first time.

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 16:28:02
Quote by Random:

here it is i show up for what little free time i have...And I'm ignored...Oh woe is me...



well...that was melodramatic.


Oh, sometimes we just go off on our own tangents.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 16:33:12
Quote by Raine:

:thud: I just took the "what drink are you" app on Facebook.



How the HELL did I become a mojito?!!?!?



:rofl:






:rofl: Yeah right mojito. :rofl:

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 16:38:36
Quote by Raine:

:thud: I just took the "what drink are you" app on Facebook.



How the HELL did I become a mojito?!!?!?



:rofl:


mojito? If you were a drink, I'd have figured a "screaming orgasm"...



oops - did I say that out loud? :rofl:

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/20/2008 16:39:27
Quote by Random:

here it is i show up for what little free time i have...And I'm ignored...Oh woe is me...



well...that was melodramatic.


Yeah, Random only has a few minutes between lunch and 5th period, ya'll!



:rofl:



;)



Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 16:40:59
Quote by Random:

here it is i show up for what little free time i have...And I'm ignored...Oh woe is me...



well...that was melodramatic.


wow - someone's being a little diva... :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 16:41:28
Quote by Raine:

:thud: I just took the "what drink are you" app on Facebook.



How the HELL did I become a mojito?!!?!?



:rofl:




how the hell am I a friggin Mimosa :scratchhead:



Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 16:42:08
never mind jumped the gun - I'm a Cosmo :D

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 16:43:03
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Random:

here it is i show up for what little free time i have...And I'm ignored...Oh woe is me...



well...that was melodramatic.


Yeah, Random only has a few minutes between lunch and 5th period, ya'll!



:rofl:



;)







:rofl:





Random - we tease because we love :hug:



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 16:45:01
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

:thud: I just took the "what drink are you" app on Facebook.



How the HELL did I become a mojito?!!?!?



:rofl:


mojito? If you were a drink, I'd have figured a "screaming orgasm"...



oops - did I say that out loud? :rofl:
:rofl:



Oh wait...



LaLa LAAAAAAaaa



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 16:46:19
I wanna be a cosmo!!!





:D

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 16:48:10
Quote by Raine:

I wanna be a cosmo!!!





:D


When I think mojito, I think warm sun, beach, and dancing. Not too shabby, huh?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 16:56:35
I'm a gin and tonic.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 17:02:06
Quote by Raine:

I wanna be a cosmo!!!





:D






Such drama over a cocktail!

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 17:03:41
Ah, great. Another application to download over on the faceplant thingy...



I don't do that at work, on purpose; I'll have to catch up to it tonight.



I better damn well be a martini, or I'm going to write a strong letter of protest.



:martini:





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/20/2008 17:04:00
Quote by Raine:

I wanna be a cosmo!!!





:D




I know the woman that invented the Cosmo! In fact, she was, for a short time, my roommate. And, I remember her coming up with the concoction, though admittedly, its a bit hazy.



:wacko:



Anywho.......... off to worky. See ya'll this evening, yes? When Hillary makes her concession speech?



:clap:

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/20/2008 17:11:41
Facebook.



I don't need no stinkin' Facebook. I'm a White Russian. Harumpf.



Oh, and good morning/afternoon!

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 17:23:48
BobR is a mojito too!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 17:24:08
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

I wanna be a cosmo!!!





:D




I know the woman that invented the Cosmo! In fact, she was, for a short time, my roommate. And, I remember her coming up with the concoction, though admittedly, its a bit hazy.



:wacko:



Anywho.......... off to worky. See ya'll this evening, yes? When Hillary makes her concession speech?



:clap:




Would that be

Cheryl Cook?

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 17:26:11
*snort*



This guy on Thom about the Starbucks logo!



How about this: Boycott them because their coffee sucks!





Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 17:26:14
Just another "don't offend the christian" type on with Thom again....:kickcan:

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 17:30:33
I'm a G&T, too

Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/20/2008 17:39:32
Oh, dear. A newspaper ran an article about a sex offender and put a picture of Imus next to it.





Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 17:54:16
Breaking News about Ted Kennedy: Malignant Brain Tumor. :cry:



Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/20/2008 17:55:05
Ted Kennedy has malignant brain tumor.



abcnews.go.com/Politics/ Health/story?id=4894479&page=1





Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 17:56:57
:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 17:58:44
Boston Globe:



Senator Edward Kennedy, the long-serving liberal icon from Massachusetts who was hospitalized this weekend after suffering a seizure, has been diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor, his doctors revealed today.



"Preliminary results from a biopsy of the brain identified the cause of the seizure as a malignant glioma in the left parietal lobe,'' Dr. Lee Schwamm, vice chairman of the neurology department at Massachusetts General Hospital and Dr. Larry Ronan, Kennedy's doctor, said this afternoon in a statement.



The statement said the usual course of treatment includes combinations of various forms of radiation and chemotherapy.



The doctors said decisions regarding the best course of treatment for Senator Kennedy will be determined after further testing and analysis.



"He has had no further seizures, remains in good overall condition, and is up and walking around the hospital. ... Senator Kennedy will remain at Massachusetts General Hospital for the next couple of days according to routine protocol. He remains in good spirits and full of energy," the statement said.



Kennedy's wife and children have been with him each day since he was hospitalized but have made no public statements.



Malignant gliomas are a type of brain cancer diagnosed in about 9,000 Americans a year -- and the most common type among adults. It's a startling diagnosis: How well patients fare depends on what specific tumor type is found.



“This is very sad news,” said Dr. Joseph Madsen, a Children’s Hospital Boston neurosurgeon.



“High-grade glio-malignancies” such as Sen. Kennedy has “are unfortunately the most common kind of brain tumor in this age group, and they have a poor prognosis for long-term survival.”



They can also be very debilitating during treatment, Madsen said, and Kennedy’s tumor is in an area where it may well eventually affect his speech.



Average survival can range from less than a year for very advanced and aggressive types -- such as glioblastomas -- to about five years for different types that are slower-growing.







:feather knocks TriSec over:





Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 17:59:47
Comment by AuntAzalea on 05/20/2008 18:00:07
Hi Guys, just checking in with this sad news. Ted Kennedy has a malignant brain tumor, that was the cause of his seizures.

Ted Kennedy has brain tumor



I really didn't think it would be this serious- VJ says she thought it would be bad.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:00:46
OMg. TEd kennedy has been diagnosed with a malignant Brain tumour.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:01:39
:cry: :cry: :cry:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 18:01:54
Quote by starling310:

:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:






Yay! Rio, Cassie and Missy are very happy. :cat happy dance:

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 18:02:05
I was just at the bank and this was on the CNN. I realized then that he was the last of the brothers.

Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 18:02:07
This is really sad news about Kennedy.



Why is it always the "Good Guys?" :headshake:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 18:02:54
Wow, talk about a blog mind meld.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 18:03:16
Quote by starling310:

:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:






Yeah! ~~~~~ Proof that healy vibes work! :hug: ~~~~~~~~~



Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 18:03:26
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:






Yay! Rio, Cassie and Missy are very happy. :cat happy dance:




Thanks Mondo. Seems trivial on the tail of the news about Ted Kennedy. But, I am breathing a big sigh of relief. I don't know what I'd do without my babies.



Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 18:04:45
Mala! I absolutely believe in the Power of Healy Vibes!



Thanks guys. 's all around.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:05:09
I am in shock.

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 18:05:17
Quote by starling310:

:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:


At least there's some good news there. Glad they're doing well.



And as for Ted Kennedy.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 18:05:45
And you know what makes my blood boil without even looking?



It's all the gleeful posters on the right-wing sites celebrating as if it's some kind of victory.



MAY ALL YOUR MOTHERS AND CHILDREN BE DIAGNOSED WITH THE SAME THING!



Die and burn in hell. All of them.









Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:07:03
Quote by starling310:

:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:
Thank you so much for such wonderful news!







I am so happy for you and your family :star:



Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 18:08:59
Yeah, sorry about the timing of my Kitty Update. I certainly don't mean to take away from the sad news about Ted Kennedy.

It's awful, awful news.



Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 18:09:48
Thom Hartmann is talking about the Family.



*coughHillaryClintoncough*

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 18:11:08
Hillary is in a cult with an awful lot of right-wing wackos like Brownback and Ashcroft.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 18:11:24
Hope no one minds but I made a 4 Freedoms group over on face book.







Four Freedoms Group

Comment by Scoopster on 05/20/2008 18:11:24
Just wow.... I'm completely stupefied by this most recent news about Teddy.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:12:35
This is the truest changing of the guard, I think.



I am so sad for Ted Kennedy and for his family.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 18:12:56
Teddy's going to be fine. They have a treatment and the docs will take care of it. I have faith he won't miss a step in helping out his country.





~~~~~~ healy vibes for the Kennedy fam! ~~~~~~~

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 18:13:48
Quote by wickedpam:

Hope no one minds but I made a 4 Freedoms group over on face book.







Four Freedoms Group


You guys are just trying to make me join facebook, aren't you?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 18:16:01
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

Hope no one minds but I made a 4 Freedoms group over on face book.







Four Freedoms Group


You guys are just trying to make me join facebook, aren't you?




You don't have to if you don't want too - we're gonna go bridge jumping later :p



I swear it's like crack, once you start you can't stop! :lol:



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/20/2008 18:16:08
Quote by TriSec:

And you know what makes my blood boil without even looking?



It's all the gleeful posters on the right-wing sites celebrating as if it's some kind of victory.



MAY ALL YOUR MOTHERS AND CHILDREN BE DIAGNOSED WITH THE SAME THING!



Die and burn in hell. All of them.



No, don't wish it on their mothers or children or anyone they love. Just shake your head and say "how sad it is to be you"

Comment by Scoopster on 05/20/2008 18:17:29
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

Hope no one minds but I made a 4 Freedoms group over on face book.







Four Freedoms Group


You guys are just trying to make me join facebook, aren't you?


I find that website completely unusable. The interface is one of the most user-unfriendly things I've ever seen on the internet.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:18:26
Quote by wickedpam:

Teddy's going to be fine. They have a treatment and the docs will take care of it. I have faith he won't miss a step in helping out his country.





~~~~~~ healy vibes for the Kennedy fam! ~~~~~~~
I hope you are right, Mala.



The malignant part really concerns me.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 18:19:16
And if there are any newbies about, this one is awfully close to home.



Senator Kennedy is my Senator; he's in the hospital about 4 miles from where I'm sitting right now. He's the only Kennedy I have been able to vote for....



I've been very secure and even smug over the past 8 years...all the bills, causes, and positions that the rest of you have had to call and write to your senators, the likelihood is that Kennedy either co-authored or co-sponsored the bill or the position.



What is Massachusetts going to be like in a post-Kennedy era, now that I actually have to ask that question?



Prognosis a year, maybe 5? We just re-elected him; his current term is through 2012. I'm not convinced that Kerry can carry the torch, and of course there is no one in the pipeline that could even succeed him. (No one can replace him.)



Christ, the Senator created the legislation that made my career possible, that's how vital he is to me. (Remember Kennedy-Cassenbaum in the mid-90s? That became the HIPAA legislation that is near and dear to me...and is also responsible for the NPI stuff that I've been whining about in recent weeks.)







Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:19:21
Nanacy pelosi Looks totally stunned. She is speaking now.

Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 18:21:28
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

Hope no one minds but I made a 4 Freedoms group over on face book.







Four Freedoms Group


You guys are just trying to make me join facebook, aren't you?


I find that website completely unusable. The interface is one of the most user-unfriendly things I've ever seen on the internet.




Scoop! I totally agree. I am pretty computer savvy, but that thing makes me crazy and all the requests you get to add applications?!?!? Oy yoy yoy.

I like scrabulous. . . that is about it!



Comment by Scoopster on 05/20/2008 18:23:22
My boss was just mentioning the possibility that Patrick (Teddy's son and my congressman) might move back home from Newport to take over the family legacy..

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:23:41
Quote by TriSec:

And if there are any newbies about, this one is awfully close to home.



Senator Kennedy is my Senator; he's in the hospital about 4 miles from where I'm sitting right now. He's the only Kennedy I have been able to vote for....



I've been very secure and even smug over the past 8 years...all the bills, causes, and positions that the rest of you have had to call and write to your senators, the likelihood is that Kennedy either co-authored or co-sponsored the bill or the position.



What is Massachusetts going to be like in a post-Kennedy era, now that I actually have to ask that question?



Prognosis a year, maybe 5? We just re-elected him; his current term is through 2012. I'm not convinced that Kerry can carry the torch, and of course there is no one in the pipeline that could even succeed him. (No one can replace him.)



Christ, the Senator created the legislation that made my career possible, that's how vital he is to me. (Remember Kennedy-Cassenbaum in the mid-90s? That became the HIPAA legislation that is near and dear to me...and is also responsible for the NPI stuff that I've been whining about in recent weeks.)





Well Said Sir TriSec. This man is a giant and has done o much or this country it is almost unfathomable for people to fully comprehend.



Damn. I am so very very sad.



Comment by wickedpam on 05/20/2008 18:24:26
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Teddy's going to be fine. They have a treatment and the docs will take care of it. I have faith he won't miss a step in helping out his country.





~~~~~~ healy vibes for the Kennedy fam! ~~~~~~~
I hope you are right, Mala.



The malignant part really concerns me.




It worries me to some extent too. But I have to say and someone who was facing surgery at one point for a pituary tumor (not the same I know but it still effects the brain if it gets too large) they turned it around with meds and I think positive thinking on my part.



I think the Kennedy's probably have some of the best docs around, they'll come up with something. Either way I think he will serve his state and the nation until he can't anylonger. That's the way the family is.



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:25:38
John Kerry is speaking. He looks like he is about ready to cry.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 18:29:14
Kennedy is at Mass General Hospital, quite possibly the best hospital in the world.



The delegate from Jacksonville will yield the point...



Everything that you take for granted in your local hospital was invented here, beginning all the way back to anesthesia; without it, modern medicine is impossible.



CAT scans, laboratory tests, therapies, drugs, everything....MIT invents it, Mass General tests it, then the rest of you get it.



He truly couldn't be in better hands, and with his personal wealth and gold-plated US Senate health care plan, any treatment in the world is possible.





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:37:38
I would like to know where this tumor is located. A few years ago, my mom was diagnosed (inncorrectly, thank the goddess) with a brain tumor. I did a lot of research and I have to tell you, I wasn't happy with the things I learned. I kept hoping for a GOOD brain Tumor for my mom.



I wish Velveeta were around right now. Aunt Azalea, if you talk to her, tell her I love her, and would love some of her wise words of wisdom.



I am trying to put on the brave face Mala and TriSec. I am.







Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 18:40:40
I'm having trouble being optimistic about this at all.



The mayor of Pittsburgh (2006) was diagnosed with a brain tumor just six months after taking office. He died within a two months.



One of my agencies has been calling me about a temp assignment but I'm in such shock I don't know that I could talk about it with him intelligibly and have been letting the calls go to voicemail.



Comment by starling310 on 05/20/2008 18:42:10
Waiting for a written statement from the Boy Wonder.





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:45:38
Quote by jd_in_ny:

No, don't wish it on their mothers or children or anyone they love. Just shake your head and say "how sad it is to be you"


It is sad to see those people.



A few weeks ago, Senator Kennedy chaired the hearing on Cancer. His opening statemetns were wonderful... always he has been, on the forefront of the causes that matter.



The president as it has been reported is writing up a press statement.



Int eh meantime, everyone from Brownback to McCain as well as Chriss Dodd, Barney Frank, John Kerry , nancy pelosi have already issued personal statements on camera.



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:48:05
Quote by starling310:

Waiting for a written statement from the Boy Wonder.



Me too. This man should be in front of a podium NOW.





This isn't just ANY senator. this is Ted Kennedy, for gawds sake.



Barack Obama will be speaking in a few moments on the TV.





Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 18:51:14
Quote by shelaghc:

I'm having trouble being optimistic about this at all.



The mayor of Pittsburgh (2006) was diagnosed with a brain tumor just six months after taking office. He died within a two months.



One of my agencies has been calling me about a temp assignment but I'm in such shock I don't know that I could talk about it with him intelligibly and have been letting the calls go to voicemail.







I'm with Shelagh....just shuffling papers around and trying not to be stunned.



Failing miserably, I might add.









Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:52:11
Well, *ush is praying for his full recovery.



His statement said he is a great man and adversary and the pResident is praying.



Once again, I am let down... I expected more.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 18:53:39
Damn - I go to lunch and the world falls apart while I'm gone...



Quote by TriSec:

And if there are any newbies about, this one is awfully close to home.



Senator Kennedy is my Senator; he's in the hospital about 4 miles from where I'm sitting right now. He's the only Kennedy I have been able to vote for....



I've been very secure and even smug over the past 8 years...all the bills, causes, and positions that the rest of you have had to call and write to your senators, the likelihood is that Kennedy either co-authored or co-sponsored the bill or the position.



What is Massachusetts going to be like in a post-Kennedy era, now that I actually have to ask that question?



Prognosis a year, maybe 5? We just re-elected him; his current term is through 2012. I'm not convinced that Kerry can carry the torch, and of course there is no one in the pipeline that could even succeed him. (No one can replace him.)

...


This is why local politics are so vital. They are the training ground for the Ted Kennedy's of tomorrow.



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:53:53
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by shelaghc:

I'm having trouble being optimistic about this at all.



The mayor of Pittsburgh (2006) was diagnosed with a brain tumor just six months after taking office. He died within a two months.



One of my agencies has been calling me about a temp assignment but I'm in such shock I don't know that I could talk about it with him intelligibly and have been letting the calls go to voicemail.







I'm with Shelagh....just shuffling papers around and trying not to be stunned.



Failing miserably, I might add.







me too.



Growing up, I wanted HIM to be my senator.



Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 18:55:34
Quote by Raine:

I would like to know where this tumor is located. A few years ago, my mom was diagnosed (inncorrectly, thank the goddess) with a brain tumor. I did a lot of research and I have to tell you, I wasn't happy with the things I learned. I kept hoping for a GOOD brain Tumor for my mom.



I wish Velveeta were around right now. Aunt Azalea, if you talk to her, tell her I love her, and would love some of her wise words of wisdom.



I am trying to put on the brave face Mala and TriSec. I am.





From TriSec's 1:58 post:

"Preliminary results from a biopsy of the brain identified the cause of the seizure as a malignant glioma in the left parietal lobe,'' Dr. Lee Schwamm, vice chairman of the neurology department at Massachusetts General Hospital and Dr. Larry Ronan, Kennedy's doctor, said this afternoon in a statement


Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 18:56:34
Quote by Raine:

Well, *ush is praying for his full recovery.



His statement said he is a great man and adversary and the pResident is praying.



Once again, I am let down... I expected more.


Sounds like another winner from the King of Eloquence... :rolleyes2:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 18:57:00
I am trying to go to www.tedkennedy.com



Understandably, it is verrrrry slow. The Kennedy family is asking people to go their to pay respects.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:01:10
Senator Obama is speaking directly to MSNBC.

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 19:03:00
This rain is not helping my mood much. It just makes me depressed.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:03:49
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

I would like to know where this tumor is located. A few years ago, my mom was diagnosed (inncorrectly, thank the goddess) with a brain tumor. I did a lot of research and I have to tell you, I wasn't happy with the things I learned. I kept hoping for a GOOD brain Tumor for my mom.



I wish Velveeta were around right now. Aunt Azalea, if you talk to her, tell her I love her, and would love some of her wise words of wisdom.



I am trying to put on the brave face Mala and TriSec. I am.





From TriSec's 1:58 post:

"Preliminary results from a biopsy of the brain identified the cause of the seizure as a malignant glioma in the left parietal lobe,'' Dr. Lee Schwamm, vice chairman of the neurology department at Massachusetts General Hospital and Dr. Larry Ronan, Kennedy's doctor, said this afternoon in a statement


Left parietal lobe.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 19:05:45
Quote by TriSec:

And you know what makes my blood boil without even looking?



It's all the gleeful posters on the right-wing sites celebrating as if it's some kind of victory.



MAY ALL YOUR MOTHERS AND CHILDREN BE DIAGNOSED WITH THE SAME THING!



Die and burn in hell. All of them.





Did you actually go to any right-wing sites? Why on earth would you do that.



If you're just assuming, I would suggest you not bother thinking about the scum of the earth.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:06:16
Brain Tumor At A Glance



Brain tumors can be either malignant or benign.



The causes of brain tumors are not known.



Brain tumors can occur at any age.



Primary brain tumors initially form in the brain tissue.



Secondary brain tumors are cancers that have spread to the brain tissue from tissue elsewhere in the body.



The symptoms of brain tumors depend on their size and their location in the brain.



Brain tumors are diagnosed by the doctor based on the results of a medical history and physical examination and results of a variety of specialized tests of the brain and nervous system.



Treatment of a brain tumor depends on the type, location, and size of the tumor, as well as the age and health of the patient.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:12:19
For once, Dr. Sanjay Gupta can speak about what he knows.



Also, there is this...

Average survival can range from three to five years for moderately severe malignant gliomas to less than a year for very advanced and aggressive types such as glioblastomas.




And here is more about the area where his tumor is located.

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 19:13:01
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Random:

here it is i show up for what little free time i have...And I'm ignored...Oh woe is me...



well...that was melodramatic.


Yeah, Random only has a few minutes between lunch and 5th period, ya'll!



:rofl:



;)







:rofl:





Random - we tease because we love :hug:



Yes....



I will kill you all...MWAHAHAHAH

*cough* what? I didn't say anything.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 19:23:50
Shelagh: You should be getting an email from PayPal...

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:26:42
Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 19:35:53
So...who wants to bet on primary results for tonight?

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 19:36:11
Quote by BobR:

Shelagh: You should be getting an email from PayPal...






Got it. Just sent you the payment - thanks



When did you mail them out?

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:36:26
They have already operated on the senator, according to a Dr. on MSNBC, in order to have this diagnois.



He is saying that it is most likely a stage 4 glioma, and he sadly said we are talking months not years.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:38:21
Quote by Random:

So...who wants to bet on primary results for tonight?
HAH!



I think someome will open up a blog for it.



Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 19:41:10
Quote by BobR:



Did you actually go to any right-wing sites? Why on earth would you do that.



If you're just assuming, I would suggest you not bother thinking about the scum of the earth.




Post #1 in the discussion thread the Globe has open:



May God bless him and heal him. And hopefully this will finally mean that MA can have a new senator. Sorry, but that's how I feel.







Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 19:41:36
Quote by shelaghc:



Got it. Just sent you the payment - thanks



When did you mail them out?


Yesterday. You should be getting them tomorrow or Thurs.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 19:42:13
Where are you getting that info, Raine? Boston.com is only referencing "more tests" at this hour, no word of any such surgery...





Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 19:43:31
Lest we forget, this from the Senator from Illinois:



Barack Obama, whose presidential bid was lifted in late January by Kennedy's enthusiastic endorsement, said he is saddened by the news, but remains optimistic.



"Ted Kennedy is a fighter," the Democratic front-runner said on CNN. "We want to make sure he's fighting this illness....He's not only a great senator, he's a great friend."



Obama said he would not be running for president if not for voting rights and civil rights battles won by Kennedy. "I stand on his shoulders," Obama said.






Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 19:44:44
Quote by Raine:

They have already operated on the senator, according to a Dr. on MSNBC, in order to have this diagnois.



He is saying that it is most likely a stage 4 glioma, and he sadly said we are talking months not years.


:(

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 19:44:45
Quote by Raine:

They have already operated on the senator, according to a Dr. on MSNBC, in order to have this diagnois.



He is saying that it is most likely a stage 4 glioma, and he sadly said we are talking months not years.


ohhh....



We all kind of new this day would come sooner or later. He's lived an amazing life and done great things. We should all be so lucky to have that to reflect on in our waning hours.



Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 19:46:00
Quote by BobR:

Quote by shelaghc:



Got it. Just sent you the payment - thanks



When did you mail them out?


Yesterday. You should be getting them tomorrow or Thurs.


Shoot - well if I don't get them tomorrow, I won't get them till next week. I'm leaving early on Thursday.

Okay - thanks.



Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 19:46:51
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

So...who wants to bet on primary results for tonight?
HAH!



I think someome will open up a blog for it.



...Finally, T-T someone talks to me.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 19:51:13
Random, go by Palm Beach and pay yer respects at the gates of the old Kennedy compound, willya?





Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 19:51:32
Time to go head off to ye olde salt mine since it's raining and I have to stop to get gas on the way.



Talk to y'all later.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:56:50
:thud: Chris Matthews interviewing HUGH CAREY on the phone.



Holy crap.



Hugh Carey. Does anyone besides me remember Hugh?

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 19:58:56
Quote by TriSec:

Random, go by Palm Beach and pay yer respects at the gates of the old Kennedy compound, willya?





How much i would like to...but i have vowed never to go into Palm Beach.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 19:59:06
Senator Chris Dodd is now being interviewed. He looks better than he did earlier, he could not speak before. he yielded the podium to Senator Kerry.











Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 20:03:07
I'll have to check the laws of this Commonwealth....if the Senator were to resign for health reasons, does Deval Patrick (D-MA, thank god for that!) appoint a replacement, or do we have a special election?





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:03:12
Quote by TriSec:

Where are you getting that info, Raine? Boston.com is only referencing "more tests" at this hour, no word of any such surgery...



Watching the news, and doing the research as I go along, Tri. .



They have been interviewing Robert Bezell, and as he says things I google it.



From what he is saying the only way to know WHAT stage the tunor is is by surgery. According to him, he said they did do surgery. This is the only person I see confirming that.







Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:05:56
Quote by TriSec:

I'll have to check the laws of this Commonwealth....if the Senator were to resign for health reasons, does Deval Patrick (D-MA, thank god for that!) appoint a replacement, or do we have a special election?



I have been told that the governor will appoint a replacement.



Comment by Scoopster on 05/20/2008 20:06:07
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by BobR:



Did you actually go to any right-wing sites? Why on earth would you do that.



If you're just assuming, I would suggest you not bother thinking about the scum of the earth.




Post #1 in the discussion thread the Globe has open:



May God bless him and heal him. And hopefully this will finally mean that MA can have a new senator. Sorry, but that's how I feel.


Some folks "feel" awfully damn callous at inapproriate moments.



Edit: btw, thankfully Mitt Romney isn't Gov. of MA anymore.. Sorry, that's just how I feel.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:08:30
:cry:Senator Byrd broke down in tears on the senate floor. :cry:

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 20:14:52
For those not listening to Randi, she is saying that she believes Hillary will run for vice-president at the convention. It's a separate vote, and the delegates don't have to vote for the person that Obama picks.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 20:23:42
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Where are you getting that info, Raine? Boston.com is only referencing "more tests" at this hour, no word of any such surgery...



Watching the news, and doing the research as I go along, Tri. .



They have been interviewing Robert Bezell, and as he says things I google it.



From what he is saying the only way to know WHAT stage the tunor is is by surgery. According to him, he said they did do surgery. This is the only person I see confirming that.











I heard on the NPR mosheen that they did a biopsy. That is the extent of the surgery.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:29:18
Quote by BobR:

For those not listening to Randi, she is saying that she believes Hillary will run for vice-president at the convention. It's a separate vote, and the delegates don't have to vote for the person that Obama picks.
How can that be if Barack Picks a running mate?





OK I am tuning into randi. I am too sad today, i think I would rather be angry.



Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 20:32:06
Quote by BobR:

For those not listening to Randi, she is saying that she believes Hillary will run for vice-president at the convention. It's a separate vote, and the delegates don't have to vote for the person that Obama picks.


Ahh...Still say she runs as an independent

Comment by m-hadley on 05/20/2008 20:32:57
Heya everybody,

Just wanted to let you all know that I'll be blogging with you in spirit tonight, but won't be able to actually be online - I'm going in for a sleep study tonight (the docs' ongoing effort to try figure out why I am such an insomniac). Like I said, I'll be thinking of all of you and hoping for big numbers for Barack. Take care :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye :D

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 20:33:32
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:






Yay! Rio, Cassie and Missy are very happy. :cat happy dance:




Thanks Mondo. Seems trivial on the tail of the news about Ted Kennedy. But, I am breathing a big sigh of relief. I don't know what I'd do without my babies.





:hug: No, Star your kitties are not trivial at all! They bring you happiness and joy. They are your family.



Ted Kennedy is another thing entirely. I'm at a loss for words. But one thing I do know I will not be speculatating about his prognosis. I am just wishing him and his family, including the governor of California well.



I grew up not far from the Schriver estate. Ground Zero for the Special Olympics ya know.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:34:36
A brain Biopsy still is surgery, and fairly serious surgery at that.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 20:41:04
Former Atlanta mayor (and MLK cohort) Andrew Young saying that Bill Clinton has probably dated more black women than Obama:







I shit you not.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/20/2008 20:42:15
Quote by starling310:

:kitty:

KITTY UPDATE




The Kitties du Star are home and well. All their bloodwork looked normal this morning, so they seem to be in the clear.

They are funny animals; it was almost like they knew last night that they weren't in the clear yet and had to go back to the Vet this morning. They just couldn't get comfortable. But, today they got home and immediately went to their favorite chairs, etc and began an elaborate grooming process to get the vet "off."



They are such loves. :hug:






Star,

Even though I am a die-hard doggie grrrl, I am so relieved and happy to hear that your kitties are doing well and are back home. We all love our pets - they are indeed our family - I am really glad to hear the news that your kids are home and are okay :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 20:45:44
Quote by Raine:

How can that be if Barack Picks a running mate?





OK I am tuning into randi. I am too sad today, i think I would rather be angry.



Still looking for a definitive description of the veep vote. Along the way I found this: Atlanta mayor Shirley Franklin to be nominated as permanent co-chair for the DNC

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:48:18
WTF?!?! Did Andrew Young have a Senior moment?







Faye, I hope you have a good nite's sleep tonite! :hug:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 20:48:58
Quote by BobR:

Former Atlanta mayor (and MLK cohort) Andrew Young saying that Bill Clinton has probably dated more black women than Obama:







I shit you not.






Two things, :RMS: Nice! I hate the phrase "I shit you not." Dunno why, just do.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/20/2008 20:49:27
Quote by BobR:

Former Atlanta mayor (and MLK cohort) Andrew Young saying that Bill Clinton has probably dated more black women than Obama:







I shit you not.




BobR,

Whoooaaa! Where and when in the hell did this come from? Talk about a non-sequitur

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:52:24
Interesting Diary from Markos.



I looked at the NY blog site... it seamed rather strange to me... Guess I wasn't the only one.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:54:21
I love when Randi says Frogmarched.



Faye, Randi was talking about this (the Andrew Young thang) on her show.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 20:54:38
Quote by m-hadley:





BobR,

Whoooaaa! Where and when in the hell did this come from? Talk about a non-sequitur

Cheers,

mfaye


I was listening to Randi and a caller mentioned it

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 20:54:43
I hate reading comments...

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 20:55:38
Quote by Raine:

A brain Biopsy still is surgery, and fairly serious surgery at that.




I guess there are biopsies and then there biopsies. Mine was no big deal. But there is big difference between a brain tumor and malignant mole.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 20:58:38
Someone FINALLY brought up the Bush-Nazi Ties on network TV!!!





Are you ready for it... IT WAS THE VIEW!!!



Holy crap. I actually wish I had seen that one!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 21:01:42
Bobber, is the signal to noise ratio really high for your FreeCycle group? There is a lot crap on mine. Sonic coupons, McDonald's coupons. Very little in the way of hard goods.

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 21:01:58
I just reliesed i know nothing of betting or how to make a spread O.o

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 21:09:25
Quote by Mondobubba:

Bobber, is the signal to noise ratio really high for your FreeCycle group? There is a lot crap on mine. Sonic coupons, McDonald's coupons. Very little in the way of hard goods.




Check for other freecycle groups in your area. I'm signed up for about three or four near to me. Only one has a fairly steady flow of offers - the ratio of "wanted" to "offer" tends to be rather high on the rest of them.

Comment by BobR on 05/20/2008 21:15:25
Quote by Mondobubba:

Bobber, is the signal to noise ratio really high for your FreeCycle group? There is a lot crap on mine. Sonic coupons, McDonald's coupons. Very little in the way of hard goods.


I never see offers for coupons. I would say that the person administering your group is very slack - they should weed those out so they never show up on the site.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 21:16:19
On the mundane side (and taking nothing away from the Kennedys and their troubles), I have to wonder why those jobs which I *want* I don't get but the ones that I know I'd hate always seem to want me.....



I was offered a two to three month temp assignment for $20 an hour - almost unheard of in Pittsburgh - for a financial company that seems to think a loosening of dress code means letting women wear pantsuits... I took one look at the place and knew I'd be going nuts in a week.



But I figured it would be a help towards getting on my feet financially after several weeks of no work. However, since I had already made travel plans that include Thursday and Friday, it's looking like I won't be getting that one anyway.





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 21:59:23
OK, Randi is giving the paid HRC caller to plunk the Talking points. Caller. SHUT THE HELL UP.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 22:03:37
I thought I broke the blog....



Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 22:05:53
This is odd - Rachel's blog says she's live for all three hours, but she was also introduced as being on MSNBC for the primary.



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 22:15:57
Quote by shelaghc:

This is odd - Rachel's blog says she's live for all three hours, but she was also introduced as being on MSNBC for the primary.

Hmm... Are they going to air MSNBC on her show? I do not see her on the TV mosheen



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 22:17:46
Jeez... the polls aren't even closed in KY and they are showing projections? That is WRONG. Shame on MSNBC.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/20/2008 22:20:48
Quote by Raine:

Jeez... the polls aren't even closed in KY and they are showing projections? That is WRONG. Shame on MSNBC.


That is kinda odd.. Even if they were reporting the Eastern Time parts of the state and waiting on Central Time, I don't think the polls would close at 6PM anywhere in the country.



Edit: Keith just verified the polls closed that early. Very odd, but I suppose it's true.

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 22:37:41
Random to say something stupid...

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 22:43:56
New blog is up!

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