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Is it Just Us?
Author: BobR    Date: 06/18/2008 12:04:09

Is it justice?... or is it just us that think the Justice Department under the Bush Administration is becoming another one of those antonymously named entities that they love to use, like the "Clean Air Initiative" or the "Healthy Forests Initiative" or "No Child Left Behind"...?

Every time we turn around there are more details about how the Justice Department was being used like a mafia enforcer. By now, the story of Don Siegelman is well known. He is the Democratic governor that was railroaded into a 30 year prison sentence. The latest twist tying the Administration to the JD is - once again - Karl Rove:
...Siegelman has long claimed that his prosecution was driven by politically motivated, Republican-appointed U.S. attorneys.
...
Now Karl Rove, the President's top political strategist, has been implicated in the controversy. A longtime Republican lawyer in Alabama swears she heard a top G.O.P. operative in the state say that Rove "had spoken with the Department of Justice" about "pursuing" Siegelman, with help from two of Alabama's U.S. attorneys.

The allegation was made by Dana Jill Simpson, a lifelong Republican and lawyer who practices in Alabama.
...
According to Simpson's statement, William Canary, a senior G.O.P. political operative and Riley adviser who was on the conference call, said "not to worry about Don Siegelman" because "'his girls' would take care of" the governor. Canary then made clear that "his girls" was a reference to his wife, Leura Canary, the U.S. attorney for the Middle District of Alabama, and Alice Martin, the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Alabama.

Canary reassured others on the conference call — who also included Riley's son, Rob, and Terry Butts, another Riley lawyer and former justice of the Alabama supreme court — that he had the help of a powerful pal in Washington. Canary said "not to worry — that he had already gotten it worked out with Karl and Karl had spoken with the Department of Justice and the Department of Justice was already pursuing Don Siegelman"...

Perhaps the Senate Judiciary Committee that has subpoenaed Rove to ask about the fired U.S. Attorneys can ask him about this while they're at it...

There's also the political hiring going on there. This is the case that is making "Bradley Schlozman" a household name (at least in some households):
The Justice Department is considering launching a grand jury investigation into whether one of its former leaders misled Congress about playing politics with civil rights issues, a government official said Monday.

The move amounts to a first step from an internal inquiry toward possible criminal charges in the scandal that helped force the resignation of former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

At issue is whether Bradley Schlozman intentionally misled senators during a June 2007 hearing when he gave conflicting statements about his role in an election-eve filing of a voter fraud lawsuit in Missouri while serving, a year earlier, as a U.S. attorney based in Kansas City, Mo.

He also angered Democrats at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing when he admitted to boasting about hiring conservative loyalists over better-qualified lawyers in 2005 when he served as acting assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's civil rights division.

The department's inspector general has been investigating Schlozman's statements to the Senate Judiciary Committee in an internal inquiry over the last year...

Another two-fer - preferential hiring AND perjury!

But hey - if politically motivated prosecutions and hiring aren't enough, how about making deals with Republican-friendly companies to avoid prosecution?
...John Ashcroft’s entrée into the world of private enterprise was announced in January 2008. It was then we learned of the procedure that the Justice Department adopted when dealing with corporations that in a perfect world might be charged with criminal conduct but in a Bush world are permitted to avoid prosecution. Culpable corporations enter into deferred prosecution agreements pursuant to which they are not criminally indicted but instead agree to have their conduct monitored for a set period by the Justice Department or someone hired by the Justice Department. Corporations like this arrangement since they avoid trial on criminal charges and the Justice Department likes it because it is full of Bush appointees who like corporations and know that they are run by good people, many of whom paid good money to help Mr. Bush get elected and don’t deserve to have their reputations sullied by criminal charges. The price corporations pay for not being prosecuted (which is not the same thing as a bribe) is that the corporation that is not being prosecuted pays a fine and has to also pay the cost of the monitor...

Isn't this the perfect example of a protection racket? "Hey - you know: accidents happen... It would be a shame if someone got hurt. You pay us and we make sure no one gets hurt"

But who am I to criticize? David Iglesias - one of 7 attorneys fired for NOT being enforcers - describes the atmosphere at the JD in an interview on The Daily Show:



Best line: "I thought I was working with the Jedi Knights and I was working for the Sith Lords"

Apparently it's not just us...


 

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Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 12:59:54
:scratchhead: First? Really?



:banana:



Waiting for the plumber. . .



"The Sith Lords!!!" :rofl:

Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 13:00:33
I say BobR should sit in on the questioning/depos - nice post. Gotta love any post that uses the phrase "antonymously named." So true - and well said. I might have to steal that one ;)

Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 13:10:39
Morning, Folks!



http://www.jasontimms.com/images/trophy.gif




(oops, where did that come from?)



I've got 3 corporate tours in rapid succession this morning, so I'll be a bit scarce for the first hour or so.





Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:15:01
O.o This computer is letting me on 4F today. YAY!

Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 13:17:34
Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:

Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!

Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:

PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)

Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:19:57
Maybe because most gay couples, waiting to be married, have been together FOR DECADES....they don't really need honeymoons.



Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:31:04
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:

Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!

Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:

PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)


I'm hurt.

*sulks*

*melo-drama*

Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:32:27
Quote by starling310:

Maybe because most gay couples, waiting to be married, have been together FOR DECADES....they don't really need honeymoons.



I'd also hope that the gays have better class then to waste money and go three blocks to a hotel to have a honeymoon.



Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 13:34:01
:coffee: Good morning!

Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:36:15
Gay M&M's?

Aren't those Skittles?

Taste the Rainbow!

Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:37:48
Quote by Random:

Gay M&M's?

Aren't those Skittles?

Taste the Rainbow!






Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:42:00
I've heard a few of those clips of O'Reilly's book. Is that really an erotic book?



I mean, if it is so. He takes more time describing that ratty couch then he does the point of the book...



Just Random being clips



Edit: I don't think i'll change that...i'm not sure what i was trying to say. Just further proof that Random brain no work good.

Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:44:45
Random, you must stop sniffing aerosal!





Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:49:47
Quote by starling310:

Random, you must stop sniffing aerosal!





Yesh I know.

...but know the answer?

Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 13:54:01
Morning :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:01:12
Ah, the fresh young faces of PSS have passed through...I'm back in the race!



Oh, and....



Two out of Three ain't bad, hmm? Frickin' FAILtriots...





Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:01:45
Good morning everyone. :coffee2:



Congrats to the Celtics. Which probably means my poor co-workers who were doing CSN New England probably had a 2 to 2 1/2 hour postgame show last night.

Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:02:16
Hi Missed seeing you around the last few days.

Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:02:37
Quote by Random:

Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:

Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!

Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:

PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)


I'm hurt.

*sulks*

*melo-drama*




Random?



We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....



Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...







Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:05:52
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Random:

Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:

Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!

Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:

PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)


I'm hurt.

*sulks*

*melo-drama*




Random?



We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....



Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...







Hm...rightie then.

*pause*

Squirrel!

*runs after squirrel*



Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:06:18
Keerist, listening to the NovaM stream with the KPHX forecast...



I'm really glad we didn't like Phoenix when we were there in '99. There was an opportunity to relocate at the time....

Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:06:51
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Random:

Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:

Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!

Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:

PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)


I'm hurt.

*sulks*

*melo-drama*




Random?



We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....



Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...









I was thinking a chaise lounge, a peekapoo, and bon bons might be more appropriate - just kidding, Random - lighten up :P

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:07:18
Oh, BTW, it looks like the Knicks will continue to both suck and blow.

Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:08:15
Quote by TriSec:

Keerist, listening to the NovaM stream with the KPHX forecast...



I'm really glad we didn't like Phoenix when we were there in '99. There was an opportunity to relocate at the time....


But it's a dry heat.

Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:09:10
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Random:

Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:

Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!

Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:

PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)


I'm hurt.

*sulks*

*melo-drama*




Random?



We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....



Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...









I was thinking a chaise lounge, a peekapoo, and bon bons might be more appropriate - just kidding, Random - lighten up :P

Cheers,

mfaye





Aw, shucks miss faye. Random was just being Random and playing along.

Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:10:19
Sounds like momma did great on Larry last night!

Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:10:43
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by TriSec:

Keerist, listening to the NovaM stream with the KPHX forecast...



I'm really glad we didn't like Phoenix when we were there in '99. There was an opportunity to relocate at the time....


But it's a dry heat.


WALTER!

Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:11:05
Congratulations to Boston!!!

Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:13:12
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, the fresh young faces of PSS have passed through...I'm back in the race!



Oh, and....



Two out of Three ain't bad, hmm? Frickin' FAILtriots...



:nana:



Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:14:21
Hi Raine. How's the ATL today?

Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:15:35
New movie title - "American Brie"

Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:16:04
That is just wrong. Cheet-O's are just for eating. I think that Cheezus would be pissed.

Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:16:39
Quote by livingonli:

Hi Missed seeing you around the last few days.




HELLO!



Yes, been busy. . . <------ sweat

Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 14:16:52
Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar

Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:17:19
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Ah, the fresh young faces of PSS have passed through...I'm back in the race!



Oh, and....



Two out of Three ain't bad, hmm? Frickin' FAILtriots...



:nana:





You DO realize that the Giants were the only team that could beat us that I wouldn't be

too upset about...



My grandpa was a Giants fan (from before we ever had the Pats...), and he loved the Braves, too.





Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:21:59
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar


Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)



Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:27:06
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar


Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)



I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a large Skittle Gay M&M.



Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:28:33
"A Camembert To Remember" ???

Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:31:05
Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar


Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)



I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a large Skittle Gay M&M.





All this cheese talk has me thinking about Velveeta - hope she is staying dry :P

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:34:53
"Was it Gouda for you?"

Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:35:58
Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar


Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)



I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a large Skittle Gay M&M.



They don't stick together so someone has to make one.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:36:57
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar


Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)



I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a large Skittle Gay M&M.





All this cheese talk has me thinking about Velveeta - hope she is staying dry :P

Cheers,

mfaye



How rude of me! - Yes: "My Fair Velveeta" !!!



Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:39:25
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar


Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)



I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a large Skittle Gay M&M.



They don't stick together so someone has to make one.


True, you'd have to actually be impressed if they make penetration, without use of other tools.



Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:39:28
I walk away for a few minutes and I see we are in a cheeze ditch!

Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 14:40:33
Frankenstein's Muenster

Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:40:47
Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Shane-O:

New movie title - "American Brie"


Brokeback Cheddar


Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)



I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a large Skittle Gay M&M.

Melts in your mouth... ???



Ok - penalty box for me...

Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:41:27
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...





Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:42:32
Quote by Raine:

I walk away for a few minutes and I see we are in a cheeze ditch!


Did you hear the story on the Stephanie Miller newscast?

Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:43:26
Quote by Raine:

I walk away for a few minutes and I see we are in a cheeze ditch!


Oh - a lactophobe? :)

Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 14:43:44
Quote by TriSec:

Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...





"monitoring" is Dubya code-word for "my advisors will tell me if there's anything I need to do for political expediency".