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Is it Just Us?
Author: BobR
Date: 06/18/2008 12:04:09
Is it justice?... or is it just us that think the Justice Department under the Bush Administration is becoming another one of those antonymously named entities that they love to use, like the "Clean Air Initiative" or the "Healthy Forests Initiative" or "No Child Left Behind"...?
Every time we turn around there are more details about how the Justice Department was being used like a mafia enforcer. By now, the story of Don Siegelman is well known. He is the Democratic governor that was railroaded into a 30 year prison sentence. The latest twist tying the Administration to the JD is - once again - Karl Rove:
Perhaps the Senate Judiciary Committee that has subpoenaed Rove to ask about the fired U.S. Attorneys can ask him about this while they're at it...
There's also the political hiring going on there. This is the case that is making "Bradley Schlozman" a household name (at least in some households):
Another two-fer - preferential hiring AND perjury!
But hey - if politically motivated prosecutions and hiring aren't enough, how about making deals with Republican-friendly companies to avoid prosecution?
Isn't this the perfect example of a protection racket? "Hey - you know: accidents happen... It would be a shame if someone got hurt. You pay us and we make sure no one gets hurt"
But who am I to criticize? David Iglesias - one of 7 attorneys fired for NOT being enforcers - describes the atmosphere at the JD in an interview on The Daily Show:
Best line: "I thought I was working with the Jedi Knights and I was working for the Sith Lords"
Apparently it's not just us...
Every time we turn around there are more details about how the Justice Department was being used like a mafia enforcer. By now, the story of Don Siegelman is well known. He is the Democratic governor that was railroaded into a 30 year prison sentence. The latest twist tying the Administration to the JD is - once again - Karl Rove:
...Siegelman has long claimed that his prosecution was driven by politically motivated, Republican-appointed U.S. attorneys.
...
Now Karl Rove, the President's top political strategist, has been implicated in the controversy. A longtime Republican lawyer in Alabama swears she heard a top G.O.P. operative in the state say that Rove "had spoken with the Department of Justice" about "pursuing" Siegelman, with help from two of Alabama's U.S. attorneys.
The allegation was made by Dana Jill Simpson, a lifelong Republican and lawyer who practices in Alabama.
...
According to Simpson's statement, William Canary, a senior G.O.P. political operative and Riley adviser who was on the conference call, said "not to worry about Don Siegelman" because "'his girls' would take care of" the governor. Canary then made clear that "his girls" was a reference to his wife, Leura Canary, the U.S. attorney for the Middle District of Alabama, and Alice Martin, the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Alabama.
Canary reassured others on the conference call — who also included Riley's son, Rob, and Terry Butts, another Riley lawyer and former justice of the Alabama supreme court — that he had the help of a powerful pal in Washington. Canary said "not to worry — that he had already gotten it worked out with Karl and Karl had spoken with the Department of Justice and the Department of Justice was already pursuing Don Siegelman"...
Perhaps the Senate Judiciary Committee that has subpoenaed Rove to ask about the fired U.S. Attorneys can ask him about this while they're at it...
There's also the political hiring going on there. This is the case that is making "Bradley Schlozman" a household name (at least in some households):
The Justice Department is considering launching a grand jury investigation into whether one of its former leaders misled Congress about playing politics with civil rights issues, a government official said Monday.
The move amounts to a first step from an internal inquiry toward possible criminal charges in the scandal that helped force the resignation of former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
At issue is whether Bradley Schlozman intentionally misled senators during a June 2007 hearing when he gave conflicting statements about his role in an election-eve filing of a voter fraud lawsuit in Missouri while serving, a year earlier, as a U.S. attorney based in Kansas City, Mo.
He also angered Democrats at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing when he admitted to boasting about hiring conservative loyalists over better-qualified lawyers in 2005 when he served as acting assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's civil rights division.
The department's inspector general has been investigating Schlozman's statements to the Senate Judiciary Committee in an internal inquiry over the last year...
Another two-fer - preferential hiring AND perjury!
But hey - if politically motivated prosecutions and hiring aren't enough, how about making deals with Republican-friendly companies to avoid prosecution?
...John Ashcroft’s entrée into the world of private enterprise was announced in January 2008. It was then we learned of the procedure that the Justice Department adopted when dealing with corporations that in a perfect world might be charged with criminal conduct but in a Bush world are permitted to avoid prosecution. Culpable corporations enter into deferred prosecution agreements pursuant to which they are not criminally indicted but instead agree to have their conduct monitored for a set period by the Justice Department or someone hired by the Justice Department. Corporations like this arrangement since they avoid trial on criminal charges and the Justice Department likes it because it is full of Bush appointees who like corporations and know that they are run by good people, many of whom paid good money to help Mr. Bush get elected and don’t deserve to have their reputations sullied by criminal charges. The price corporations pay for not being prosecuted (which is not the same thing as a bribe) is that the corporation that is not being prosecuted pays a fine and has to also pay the cost of the monitor...
Isn't this the perfect example of a protection racket? "Hey - you know: accidents happen... It would be a shame if someone got hurt. You pay us and we make sure no one gets hurt"
But who am I to criticize? David Iglesias - one of 7 attorneys fired for NOT being enforcers - describes the atmosphere at the JD in an interview on The Daily Show:
Best line: "I thought I was working with the Jedi Knights and I was working for the Sith Lords"
Apparently it's not just us...
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Comment by 
starling310 on 06/18/2008 12:59:54
starling310 on 06/18/2008 12:59:54
:scratchhead: First? Really?
:banana:
Waiting for the plumber. . .
"The Sith Lords!!!" :rofl:
:banana:
Waiting for the plumber. . .
"The Sith Lords!!!" :rofl:
Comment by 
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 13:00:33
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 13:00:33
I say BobR should sit in on the questioning/depos - nice post. Gotta love any post that uses the phrase "antonymously named." So true - and well said. I might have to steal that one ;)
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/18/2008 13:10:39
TriSec on 06/18/2008 13:10:39
Morning, Folks!
(oops, where did that come from?)
I've got 3 corporate tours in rapid succession this morning, so I'll be a bit scarce for the first hour or so.
(oops, where did that come from?)
I've got 3 corporate tours in rapid succession this morning, so I'll be a bit scarce for the first hour or so.
Comment by 
Random on 06/18/2008 13:15:01
Random on 06/18/2008 13:15:01
O.o This computer is letting me on 4F today. YAY!
Comment by 
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 13:17:34
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 13:17:34
Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:
Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!
Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)
Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!
Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:19:57
starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:19:57
Maybe because most gay couples, waiting to be married, have been together FOR DECADES....they don't really need honeymoons.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:31:04
I'm hurt.
*sulks*
*melo-drama*
Random on 06/18/2008 13:31:04
Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:
Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!
Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)
I'm hurt.
*sulks*
*melo-drama*
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:32:27
I'd also hope that the gays have better class then to waste money and go three blocks to a hotel to have a honeymoon.
Random on 06/18/2008 13:32:27
Quote by starling310:
Maybe because most gay couples, waiting to be married, have been together FOR DECADES....they don't really need honeymoons.
I'd also hope that the gays have better class then to waste money and go three blocks to a hotel to have a honeymoon.
Comment by 
Raine on 06/18/2008 13:34:01
Raine on 06/18/2008 13:34:01
:coffee: Good morning!
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:36:15
Random on 06/18/2008 13:36:15
Gay M&M's?
Aren't those Skittles?
Taste the Rainbow!
Aren't those Skittles?
Taste the Rainbow!
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:37:48
starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:37:48
Quote by Random:
Gay M&M's?
Aren't those Skittles?
Taste the Rainbow!
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:42:00
Random on 06/18/2008 13:42:00
I've heard a few of those clips of O'Reilly's book. Is that really an erotic book?
I mean, if it is so. He takes more time describing that ratty couch then he does the point of the book...
Just Random being clips
Edit: I don't think i'll change that...i'm not sure what i was trying to say. Just further proof that Random brain no work good.
I mean, if it is so. He takes more time describing that ratty couch then he does the point of the book...
Just Random being clips
Edit: I don't think i'll change that...i'm not sure what i was trying to say. Just further proof that Random brain no work good.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:44:45
starling310 on 06/18/2008 13:44:45
Random, you must stop sniffing aerosal!
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 13:49:47
Yesh I know.
...but know the answer?
Random on 06/18/2008 13:49:47
Quote by starling310:
Random, you must stop sniffing aerosal!
Yesh I know.
...but know the answer?
Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 13:54:01
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 13:54:01
Morning :hug:
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:01:12
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:01:12
Ah, the fresh young faces of PSS have passed through...I'm back in the race!
Oh, and....
Two out of Three ain't bad, hmm? Frickin' FAILtriots...
Oh, and....
Two out of Three ain't bad, hmm? Frickin' FAILtriots...
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:01:45
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:01:45
Good morning everyone. 
:coffee2:
Congrats to the Celtics. Which probably means my poor co-workers who were doing CSN New England probably had a 2 to 2 1/2 hour postgame show last night.
:coffee2:Congrats to the Celtics. Which probably means my poor co-workers who were doing CSN New England probably had a 2 to 2 1/2 hour postgame show last night.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:02:16
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:02:16
Hi Missed seeing you around the last few days.
Missed seeing you around the last few days.
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:02:37
Random?
We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....
Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:02:37
Quote by Random:Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:
Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!
Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)
I'm hurt.
*sulks*
*melo-drama*
Random?
We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....
Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:05:52
Hm...rightie then.
*pause*
Squirrel!
*runs after squirrel*
Random on 06/18/2008 14:05:52
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:
Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!
Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)
I'm hurt.
*sulks*
*melo-drama*
Random?
We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....
Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...
Hm...rightie then.
*pause*
Squirrel!
*runs after squirrel*
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:06:18
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:06:18
Keerist, listening to the NovaM stream with the KPHX forecast...
I'm really glad we didn't like Phoenix when we were there in '99. There was an opportunity to relocate at the time....
I'm really glad we didn't like Phoenix when we were there in '99. There was an opportunity to relocate at the time....
Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:06:51
I was thinking a chaise lounge, a peekapoo, and bon bons might be more appropriate - just kidding, Random - lighten up :P
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:06:51
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:
Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!
Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)
I'm hurt.
*sulks*
*melo-drama*
Random?
We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....
Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...
I was thinking a chaise lounge, a peekapoo, and bon bons might be more appropriate - just kidding, Random - lighten up :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:07:18
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:07:18
Oh, BTW, it looks like the Knicks will continue to both suck and blow.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:08:15
But it's a dry heat.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:08:15
Quote by TriSec:
Keerist, listening to the NovaM stream with the KPHX forecast...
I'm really glad we didn't like Phoenix when we were there in '99. There was an opportunity to relocate at the time....
But it's a dry heat.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:09:10
Aw, shucks miss faye. Random was just being Random and playing along.
Random on 06/18/2008 14:09:10
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Everybody (BobR, Tri , Shane-O, and Starling) :coffee:
Go Celtics (I am am old Larry Bird Hoosier), but I'm really glad that they beat LA!
Hope you all have a great day - waiting for the plumber, eh, Star? Happy waiting :P
Cheers,
mfaye :heart:
PS Didn't mean to leave out Random (I know how senstive he is :D)
I'm hurt.
*sulks*
*melo-drama*
Random?
We have a row of fainting couches in the back, complete with Bakelite phones and linoleum to go click-clacking across....
Then our Southern Gentleman will tend to your wounded pride with a fan and a bracing brandy and soda...
I was thinking a chaise lounge, a peekapoo, and bon bons might be more appropriate - just kidding, Random - lighten up :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Aw, shucks miss faye. Random was just being Random and playing along.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:10:19
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:10:19
Sounds like momma did great on Larry last night!
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:10:43
WALTER!
Random on 06/18/2008 14:10:43
Quote by livingonli:Quote by TriSec:
Keerist, listening to the NovaM stream with the KPHX forecast...
I'm really glad we didn't like Phoenix when we were there in '99. There was an opportunity to relocate at the time....
But it's a dry heat.
WALTER!
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:11:05
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:11:05
Congratulations to Boston!!!
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:13:12
:nana:
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:13:12
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the fresh young faces of PSS have passed through...I'm back in the race!
Oh, and....
Two out of Three ain't bad, hmm? Frickin' FAILtriots...
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:14:21
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:14:21
Hi Raine. How's the ATL today?
Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:15:35
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:15:35
New movie title - "American Brie"
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:16:04
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:16:04
That is just wrong. Cheet-O's are just for eating. I think that Cheezus would be pissed.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:16:39
HELLO!
Yes, been busy. . .
<------ sweat
starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:16:39
Quote by livingonli:
Hi
HELLO!
Yes, been busy. . .
<------ sweat
Comment by 
BobR on 06/18/2008 14:16:52
Brokeback Cheddar
BobR on 06/18/2008 14:16:52
Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:17:19
You DO realize that the Giants were the only team that could beat us that I wouldn't be
too upset about...
My grandpa was a Giants fan (from before we ever had the Pats...), and he loved the Braves, too.
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:17:19
Quote by Raine::nana:Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the fresh young faces of PSS have passed through...I'm back in the race!
Oh, and....
Two out of Three ain't bad, hmm? Frickin' FAILtriots...
You DO realize that the Giants were the only team that could beat us that I wouldn't be
too upset about...
My grandpa was a Giants fan (from before we ever had the Pats...), and he loved the Braves, too.
Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:21:59
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:21:59
Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:27:06
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a largeSkittle Gay M&M.
Random on 06/18/2008 14:27:06
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a large
Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:28:33
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:28:33
"A Camembert To Remember" ???
Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:31:05
All this cheese talk has me thinking about Velveeta - hope she is staying dry :P
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:31:05
Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a largeSkittleGay M&M.
All this cheese talk has me thinking about Velveeta - hope she is staying dry :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:34:53
starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:34:53
"Was it Gouda for you?"
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:35:58
They don't stick together so someone has to make one.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:35:58
Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a largeSkittleGay M&M.
They don't stick together so someone has to make one.
Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:36:57
How rude of me! - Yes: "My Fair Velveeta" !!!
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:36:57
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a largeSkittleGay M&M.
All this cheese talk has me thinking about Velveeta - hope she is staying dry :P
Cheers,
mfaye
How rude of me! - Yes: "My Fair Velveeta" !!!
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:39:25
True, you'd have to actually be impressed if they make penetration, without use of other tools.
Random on 06/18/2008 14:39:25
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a largeSkittleGay M&M.
They don't stick together so someone has to make one.
True, you'd have to actually be impressed if they make penetration, without use of other tools.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:39:28
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:39:28
I walk away for a few minutes and I see we are in a cheeze ditch! 
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 14:40:33
BobR on 06/18/2008 14:40:33
Frankenstein's Muenster
Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:40:47
Melts in your mouth... ???
Ok - penalty box for me...
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:40:47
Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a largeSkittleGay M&M.
Ok - penalty box for me...
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:41:27
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:41:27
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:42:32
Did you hear the story on the Stephanie Miller newscast?
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:42:32
Quote by Raine:
I walk away for a few minutes and I see we are in a cheeze ditch!
Did you hear the story on the Stephanie Miller newscast?
Comment by Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:43:26
Oh - a lactophobe? :)
Shane-O on 06/18/2008 14:43:26
Quote by Raine:
I walk away for a few minutes and I see we are in a cheeze ditch!
Oh - a lactophobe? :)
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 14:43:44
"monitoring" is Dubya code-word for "my advisors will tell me if there's anything I need to do for political expediency".
BobR on 06/18/2008 14:43:44
Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
"monitoring" is Dubya code-word for "my advisors will tell me if there's anything I need to do for political expediency".
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:44:24
You know. If actually kind of sticks to this issue, and "Monitors" it. then you've got to give him credit. Our lil Georgie is growing up and becoming a man with responiblities. Now if only we didn't drink and smoke pot when we were pregnant.
Random on 06/18/2008 14:44:24
Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
You know. If actually kind of sticks to this issue, and "Monitors" it. then you've got to give him credit. Our lil Georgie is growing up and becoming a man with responiblities. Now if only we didn't drink and smoke pot when we were pregnant.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:44:41
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:44:41
Everytime Momma meets a winger sound tool, she always says they are very nice in real life... I kinda don't like that.
Fist it was hannity, then ingraham and now larry elder...
NO ONE is nice when they spew hate for a living, and to tell you the truth, if they don't believe the crap they swill on the air, then they are even worse than those that really do.
What next? if she meets mAnn, will she invite her on the show too?
Fist it was hannity, then ingraham and now larry elder...
NO ONE is nice when they spew hate for a living, and to tell you the truth, if they don't believe the crap they swill on the air, then they are even worse than those that really do.
What next? if she meets mAnn, will she invite her on the show too?
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:44:55
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:44:55
Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:46:41
Yes. People do indeed have the strangest fettish-es
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:46:41
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
I walk away for a few minutes and I see we are in a cheeze ditch!
Did you hear the story on the Stephanie Miller newscast?
Yes. People do indeed have the strangest fettish-es
Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:46:59
Velveeta - Yellow/orange pasturized processed cheese food, but it makes wonderful chile con queso - ummmm :P
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:46:59
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Random:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
New movie title - "American Brie"
Brokeback Cheddar
Betty Bleu Cheese (with subtitles, of course)
I'll be more impressed when someone has sex with a largeSkittleGay M&M.
All this cheese talk has me thinking about Velveeta - hope she is staying dry :P
Cheers,
mfaye
How rude of me! - Yes: "My Fair Velveeta" !!!
Velveeta - Yellow/orange pasturized processed cheese food, but it makes wonderful chile con queso - ummmm :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:47:28
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:47:28
Raine, I noticed you haven't come back to the SMS Live blog. I've been representing all by my lonesome not counting the people who started there and came here.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:47:32
Yeah, Momma needs to summon her "Inner Malloy."
starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:47:32
Quote by Raine:
Everytime Momma meets a winger sound tool, she always says they are very nice in real life... I kinda don't like that.
Fist it was hannity, then ingraham and now larry elder...
NO ONE is nice when they spew hate for a living, and to tell you the truth, if they don't believe the crap they swill on the air, then they are even worse than those that really do.
What next? if she meets mAnn, will she invite her on the show too?
Yeah, Momma needs to summon her "Inner Malloy."
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:47:41
That was the most awesome thing I have seen in a long time.
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:47:41
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 14:47:44
Makes a man proud to be gay for Obama.
Random on 06/18/2008 14:47:44
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
Makes a man proud to be gay for Obama.
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:48:07
Yeah, I'm waiting for footage of Air Force One flying low over the disaster zone, with GW peering out the window with his "concerned" look on....
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:48:07
Quote by starling310:
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
Yeah, I'm waiting for footage of Air Force One flying low over the disaster zone, with GW peering out the window with his "concerned" look on....
Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:48:33
No kidding, Star,
I'd share my cheetos with him anytime :P
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 14:48:33
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
No kidding, Star,
I'd share my cheetos with him anytime :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:49:22
I want a president who shovels dirt in his jeans and pats his wife on the a**
starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:49:22
Quote by Raine:That was the most awesome thing I have seen in a long time.Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
I want a president who shovels dirt in his jeans and pats his wife on the a**
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:49:44
I will get back there... I have been pretty busy trying to get the word out for Four Freedoms in a few other places lately.
I will get back. I must say the whole troll thing soured me very much over there. Plus, I like the toys we have here.
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:49:44
Quote by livingonli:
Raine, I noticed you haven't come back to the SMS Live blog. I've been representing all by my lonesome not counting the people who started there and came here.
I will get back. I must say the whole troll thing soured me very much over there. Plus, I like the toys we have here.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:50:09
I totally have a big Lesbian "Man Crush" on him.
starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:50:09
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Say, if GW is 'monitoring' the gay marriage situation in California at least as well as he's been 'monitoring' the flooding in Iowa, I don't think we have anything to worry about...
All I could think when I saw the video of Obama shoveling dirt in the flood area, in his jeans, chewing gum, was "SWOON!" That's my kind'a president.
No kidding, Star,
I'd share my cheetos with him anytime :P
Cheers,
mfaye
I totally have a big Lesbian "Man Crush" on him.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:51:41
At our dinner Monday night when we were swapping stories someone mentioned that a friend of theirs has Hannity as a customer at the restuarant he waiters at and apparently he's a very big tipper and usually a friendly person. It seems like I know a few cons who while nice people personally espouse these really evil policies.
On the other hand, apparently even at Fox, no one likes Bill -O. He seems to have his goal to piss off as many people as possible and that he's a real asshole.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:51:41
Quote by Raine:
Everytime Momma meets a winger sound tool, she always says they are very nice in real life... I kinda don't like that.
Fist it was hannity, then ingraham and now larry elder...
NO ONE is nice when they spew hate for a living, and to tell you the truth, if they don't believe the crap they swill on the air, then they are even worse than those that really do.
What next? if she meets mAnn, will she invite her on the show too?
At our dinner Monday night when we were swapping stories someone mentioned that a friend of theirs has Hannity as a customer at the restuarant he waiters at and apparently he's a very big tipper and usually a friendly person. It seems like I know a few cons who while nice people personally espouse these really evil policies.
On the other hand, apparently even at Fox, no one likes Bill -O. He seems to have his goal to piss off as many people as possible and that he's a real asshole.
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:52:21
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:52:21
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:53:05
They definitely need more emoticons and make it a little more user-friendly. The code the tech monkeys use there is very limited.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:53:05
Quote by Raine:I will get back there... I have been pretty busy trying to get the word out for Four Freedoms in a few other places lately.Quote by livingonli:
Raine, I noticed you haven't come back to the SMS Live blog. I've been representing all by my lonesome not counting the people who started there and came here.
I will get back. I must say the whole troll thing soured me very much over there. Plus, I like the toys we have here.
They definitely need more emoticons and make it a little more user-friendly. The code the tech monkeys use there is very limited.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:53:30
:spit: Inner Malloy --- I like that!
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:53:30
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Everytime Momma meets a winger sound tool, she always says they are very nice in real life... I kinda don't like that.
Fist it was hannity, then ingraham and now larry elder...
NO ONE is nice when they spew hate for a living, and to tell you the truth, if they don't believe the crap they swill on the air, then they are even worse than those that really do.
What next? if she meets mAnn, will she invite her on the show too?
Yeah, Momma needs to summon her "Inner Malloy."
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:53:30
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:53:30
Chris - I believe there are 2 Mayflower hotels - one in NY and one in DC
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:54:14
:sprint:
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:54:14
Quote by TriSec:
:sprint:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:55:26
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:55:26
How do we know that Adam and Eve weren't people but single cell critters without a sex?
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:56:43
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:56:43
OMG... caller doesn't get it at all.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:56:47
starling310 on 06/18/2008 14:56:47
How many kids have been adopted by a loving gay couple who would have otherwise ended up "in the system" for the rest of their lives?
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:56:47
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:56:47
brainwashed wingnut caller...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:57:06
Pander Bear
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 14:57:06
Pander Bear
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:57:25
Sometimes when I stumble on the right wing shows and hear a piece of idiocy especialy those people Thom Hartmann calls up, I summon my inner Malloy.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:57:25
Quote by Raine::spit: Inner Malloy --- I like that!Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Everytime Momma meets a winger sound tool, she always says they are very nice in real life... I kinda don't like that.
Fist it was hannity, then ingraham and now larry elder...
NO ONE is nice when they spew hate for a living, and to tell you the truth, if they don't believe the crap they swill on the air, then they are even worse than those that really do.
What next? if she meets mAnn, will she invite her on the show too?
Yeah, Momma needs to summon her "Inner Malloy."
Sometimes when I stumble on the right wing shows and hear a piece of idiocy especialy those people Thom Hartmann calls up, I summon my inner Malloy.
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:57:27
TriSec on 06/18/2008 14:57:27
Say caller, my parents divorced. All I had was a dad.
What about that?
What about that?
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 14:57:42
BobR on 06/18/2008 14:57:42
This woman doesn't seem to realize her bigotry has no rational basis, despite her attempts to do so.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:57:44
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:57:44
So caller doesn't want gay people to have the same legal rights as hetrosexuals...
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:58:49
This is true. Better a loving gay couple then being bounced from foster home to foster home, especially when some don't have the best living conditions or treat their children well.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 14:58:49
Quote by starling310:
How many kids have been adopted by a loving gay couple who would have otherwise ended up "in the system" for the rest of their lives?
This is true. Better a loving gay couple then being bounced from foster home to foster home, especially when some don't have the best living conditions or treat their children well.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 14:59:14
well, At least those kids would be in a system longing for a mom and a dad 
What an ignant woman.
Raine on 06/18/2008 14:59:14
Quote by starling310:
How many kids have been adopted by a loving gay couple who would have otherwise ended up "in the system" for the rest of their lives?
What an ignant woman.
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:00:44
ok - that's a little scary looking!
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:00:44
Quote by wickedpam:
Pander Bear
ok - that's a little scary looking!
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:01:35
starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:01:35
I love the "If God wanted. . . " arguement.
If God wanted WAR we'd all have been born with a gun in our hand.
If God wanted addiction, we'd all have been born holding a bottle.
If God wanted hate, we wouldn't have the capacity to love...
Oh wait! Love....Hm....that is what this is about. Right?
I have the capacity to love, so "God" must have meant for that to happen.
If God wanted WAR we'd all have been born with a gun in our hand.
If God wanted addiction, we'd all have been born holding a bottle.
If God wanted hate, we wouldn't have the capacity to love...
Oh wait! Love....Hm....that is what this is about. Right?
I have the capacity to love, so "God" must have meant for that to happen.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:02:36
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:02:36
Michelle Obama on the VIEW! Now!!
Whoopi introduced her, and Michelle says "wait, I have to be introduced Properly... FIST BUMP"
Whoopi introduced her, and Michelle says "wait, I have to be introduced Properly... FIST BUMP"
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:04:07
:clap:
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:04:07
Quote by starling310:
I love the "If God wanted. . . " arguement.
If God wanted WAR we'd all have been born with a gun in our hand.
If God wanted addiction, we'd all have been born holding a bottle.
If God wanted hate, we wouldn't have the capacity to love...
Oh wait! Love....Hm....that is what this is about. Right?
I have the capacity to love, so "God" must have meant for that to happen.
:clap:
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:04:18
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:04:18
Did you know that Michelle Brother is the coach of the Oregon state BEAVERS?!?! :D
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:04:21
Jesus was saying "Love Thy Neighbor" not "Hate the Gay".
livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:04:21
Quote by starling310:
I love the "If God wanted. . . " arguement.
If God wanted WAR we'd all have been born with a gun in our hand.
If God wanted addiction, we'd all have been born holding a bottle.
If God wanted hate, we wouldn't have the capacity to love...
Oh wait! Love....Hm....that is what this is about. Right?
I have the capacity to love, so "God" must have meant for that to happen.
Jesus was saying "Love Thy Neighbor" not "Hate the Gay".
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:04:50
She just said "Go beavers!"....
uh-huh-huh-huh-huh... :: beavis & butthead ::
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:04:50
Quote by Raine:
Michelle Obama on the VIEW! Now!!
Whoopi introduced her, and Michelle says "wait, I have to be introduced Properly... FIST BUMP"
She just said "Go beavers!"....
uh-huh-huh-huh-huh... :: beavis & butthead ::
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:05:31
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:05:31
OK, I have decided to DVR the view and return to Momma, but let me tell you, Ms. Michelle looks beautiful!
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:05:38
starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:05:38
Is it wrong to want a 3some with the next president and his baby momma?
I'll be in the Penalty Box.
I'll be in the Penalty Box.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:06:31
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:06:31
OMG, she did... that is an awesome drop to make! Michelle Obama yelling GO BEAVERS!!! 
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:07:28
I'll be there too...
... with a video camera.... :rofl:
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:07:28
Quote by starling310:
Is it wrong to want a 3some with the next president and his baby momma?
I'll be in the Penalty Box.
I'll be there too...
... with a video camera.... :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:07:30
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:07:30
Quote by starling310:
Is it wrong to want a 3some with the next president and his baby momma?
I'll be in the Penalty Box.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:08:17
starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:08:17
Wow...Elizabeth Hasselback is super annoying. 
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:09:00
TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:09:00
I've forgotten who said it way back on AAP...
"I fell in love with a person, not their anatomy"
The Struggle Continues...
"I fell in love with a person, not their anatomy"
The Struggle Continues...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 15:10:43
I know - I'm still perfecting my use of paint shop
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 15:10:43
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Pander Bear
ok - that's a little scary looking!
I know - I'm still perfecting my use of paint shop
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:11:04
starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:11:04
Yeah, Amy and Senator Clinton didn't get the nomination, DID SHE!?!?!
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:17:35
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:17:35
I am NOT looking forward to that little bucket of extra crispy Elizabeth. Is she messing with Michelle?
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:19:56
livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:19:56
Paris Hilton is the Malibu Stacy Doll.
"Thinking gives you wrinkles."
"Thinking gives you wrinkles."
Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 15:21:54
Thank you Army Corps of Engineers for your careful and complete planning - NOT :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 15:21:54
Quote by Raine:
Mississippi goes over 11 more levees.
Thank you Army Corps of Engineers for your careful and complete planning - NOT :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:28:36
:lol:
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:28:36
Quote by livingonli:
Paris Hilton is the Malibu Stacy Doll.
"Thinking gives you wrinkles."
:lol:
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:28:38
livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:28:38
eharmony.com doesn't allow gay people. They get filtered out in the personality profile along with non-conformists and those of us who are just out of the norm (such as most liberals).
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:29:15
starling310 on 06/18/2008 15:29:15
Did Jim just tell Stephanie she has an Elektra complex!?!? 
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:29:33
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:29:33
4 HElicopter engines have gone missing...
Can someone get KBR on the line?!?!?!
(edited to correctly represent the story)
Can someone get KBR on the line?!?!?!
(edited to correctly represent the story)
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:36:13
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:36:13
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:40:27
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:40:27
:thud:
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:40:50
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:40:50
I LOVE Sir Mix-a-little! :rofl:
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:45:58
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:45:58
Yet another fine presidential portrait:
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:49:29
Dr. Neil Clark Warren is in bed with James Dobson, don't ya know?
TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:49:29
Quote by livingonli:
eharmony.com doesn't allow gay people. They get filtered out in the personality profile along with non-conformists and those of us who are just out of the norm (such as most liberals).
Dr. Neil Clark Warren is in bed with James Dobson, don't ya know?
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:51:20
I heard about that. Has anyone seen the ads for chemistry.com which are showing people who were rejected by eHarmony?
livingonli on 06/18/2008 15:51:20
Quote by TriSec:Quote by livingonli:
eharmony.com doesn't allow gay people. They get filtered out in the personality profile along with non-conformists and those of us who are just out of the norm (such as most liberals).
Dr. Neil Clark Warren is in bed with James Dobson, don't ya know?
I heard about that. Has anyone seen the ads for chemistry.com which are showing people who were rejected by eHarmony?
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:52:35
"The U.S. is not disclosing what kind of engines they were to prevent any criminals or insurgents from getting additional information."
Gee, that's not hard.
Blackhawk helos fly with General Electric T700-GE-701C free-turbine turboshafts, 1,800 hp (1,340 kW) each...
It's all right there on the
internets...
{ahem, my brother builds that engine!}
TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:52:35
Quote by Raine:
4 HElicopter engines have gone missing...
Can someone get KBR on the line?!?!?!
(edited to correctly represent the story)
"The U.S. is not disclosing what kind of engines they were to prevent any criminals or insurgents from getting additional information."
Gee, that's not hard.
Blackhawk helos fly with General Electric T700-GE-701C free-turbine turboshafts, 1,800 hp (1,340 kW) each...
It's all right there on the
internets...
{ahem, my brother builds that engine!}
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 15:53:36
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 15:53:36
I thought it was a rather classy ad if you ask me.
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 15:54:04
liberal confession: I used to build the Hellfire missiles that they carry...
BobR on 06/18/2008 15:54:04
Quote by TriSec:
"The U.S. is not disclosing what kind of engines they were to prevent any criminals or insurgents from getting additional information."
Gee, that's not hard.
Blackhawk helos fly with General Electric T700-GE-701C free-turbine turboshafts, 1,800 hp (1,340 kW) each...
It's all right there on the
internets...
{ahem, my brother builds that engine!}
liberal confession: I used to build the Hellfire missiles that they carry...
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 15:55:25
Raine on 06/18/2008 15:55:25
OMG... CALLER! you did not have to go there!
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:56:12
TriSec on 06/18/2008 15:56:12
Ah yes, those chemistry.com ads are in heavy rotation in the Boston area...maybe because we're all liberals and can't meet Dr. Warren's high standards...
But then again, as I have stated more than once, it would be interesting for Mrs. TriSec and I to fill out one of those compatibility surveys and see how many 'red flags' we got.
But then again, as I have stated more than once, it would be interesting for Mrs. TriSec and I to fill out one of those compatibility surveys and see how many 'red flags' we got.
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 16:00:01
Aw, that's OK. My brother broke into the business with a Raytheon subcontractor, he used to make the seeker heads for the Sidewinder missile...he's got a few "rejects" in his cellar, I've been bugging him to give me one.
TriSec on 06/18/2008 16:00:01
Quote by BobR:
liberal confession: I used to build the Hellfire missiles that they carry...
Aw, that's OK. My brother broke into the business with a Raytheon subcontractor, he used to make the seeker heads for the Sidewinder missile...he's got a few "rejects" in his cellar, I've been bugging him to give me one.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 16:00:55
Raine on 06/18/2008 16:00:55
If you want to meet a good liberal online, I say, join a liberal message board! :D
It worked for me!
It worked for me!
Comment by m-hadley on 06/18/2008 16:01:24
Didya watch the clip - he couldn't even make a lay-up Can we just ignore him now and pretend that we don't have a president? (position is temporarily vacant - no duh :P)
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/18/2008 16:01:24
Quote by BobR:
Yet another fine presidential portrait:
Didya watch the clip - he couldn't even make a lay-up
Can we just ignore him now and pretend that we don't have a president? (position is temporarily vacant - no duh :P)Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:02:30
livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:02:30
Has anyone actually checked out Democraticmatch.com? I know NovaM has been running those ads a lot lately.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 16:23:50
Raine on 06/18/2008 16:23:50
Thom! Playing Randy NEwman!
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 16:26:43
Random on 06/18/2008 16:26:43
*grumbles into 4F*
Damn college parking BS
*grumbles out of 4F*
Damn college parking BS
*grumbles out of 4F*
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:27:09
starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:27:09
Well the plumber was way cheaper than I thought. . . only 95 bucks ( i was expecting about 250 or something.)
BUT, then I took my car for an oil change. "Um, yeah Terri...you've got a couple things here that need attention. See that axle boot? Ripped in half? Yeah, that needs to be replaced. That's about $250 parts and labor. And, see there? You've got liquid on your timing cover, so I have to take that off and see what it's leaking. So, that's a new timing belt, water pump. . . . All in all you're looking at about $1000."
:thud:
BUT, then I took my car for an oil change. "Um, yeah Terri...you've got a couple things here that need attention. See that axle boot? Ripped in half? Yeah, that needs to be replaced. That's about $250 parts and labor. And, see there? You've got liquid on your timing cover, so I have to take that off and see what it's leaking. So, that's a new timing belt, water pump. . . . All in all you're looking at about $1000."
:thud:
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:37:40
I've had those days.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:37:40
Quote by starling310:
Well the plumber was way cheaper than I thought. . . only 95 bucks ( i was expecting about 250 or something.)
BUT, then I took my car for an oil change. "Um, yeah Terri...you've got a couple things here that need attention. See that axle boot? Ripped in half? Yeah, that needs to be replaced. That's about $250 parts and labor. And, see there? You've got liquid on your timing cover, so I have to take that off and see what it's leaking. So, that's a new timing belt, water pump. . . . All in all you're looking at about $1000."
:thud:
I've had those days.
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 16:42:23
The axle boot isn't critical. In fact - it might be cheaper to replace the entire axle than to have the boot replaced (at least you'd have new CV joints). The leak in the water pump might not be critical either if you keep an eye on your water level. The timing belt doesn't need replacement unless it's actually damaged. If your car is working fine, then it's probably not damaged.
Is this a mechanic you trust? Unless this is someone you've had a good working relationship with in the past, you should get a second opinion. Discount oil change places are notorious for finding other things that "need" immediate attention.
BobR on 06/18/2008 16:42:23
Quote by starling310:
Well the plumber was way cheaper than I thought. . . only 95 bucks ( i was expecting about 250 or something.)
BUT, then I took my car for an oil change. "Um, yeah Terri...you've got a couple things here that need attention. See that axle boot? Ripped in half? Yeah, that needs to be replaced. That's about $250 parts and labor. And, see there? You've got liquid on your timing cover, so I have to take that off and see what it's leaking. So, that's a new timing belt, water pump. . . . All in all you're looking at about $1000."
:thud:
The axle boot isn't critical. In fact - it might be cheaper to replace the entire axle than to have the boot replaced (at least you'd have new CV joints). The leak in the water pump might not be critical either if you keep an eye on your water level. The timing belt doesn't need replacement unless it's actually damaged. If your car is working fine, then it's probably not damaged.
Is this a mechanic you trust? Unless this is someone you've had a good working relationship with in the past, you should get a second opinion. Discount oil change places are notorious for finding other things that "need" immediate attention.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:51:51
Yeah, this place did my brakes, but I am absolutely going to bring it in to my regular mechanic ( near work ) that I trust more and have him take a look at it and see what he thinks. He's definitely not one to fix things that aren't broken!
starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:51:51
Quote by BobR:
The axle boot isn't critical. In fact - it might be cheaper to replace the entire axle than to have the boot replaced (at least you'd have new CV joints). The leak in the water pump might not be critical either if you keep an eye on your water level. The timing belt doesn't need replacement unless it's actually damaged. If your car is working fine, then it's probably not damaged.
Is this a mechanic you trust? Unless this is someone you've had a good working relationship with in the past, you should get a second opinion. Discount oil change places are notorious for finding other things that "need" immediate attention.
Yeah, this place did my brakes, but I am absolutely going to bring it in to my regular mechanic ( near work ) that I trust more and have him take a look at it and see what he thinks. He's definitely not one to fix things that aren't broken!
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:52:00
livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:52:00
I actually still go to my dealer for my car work. Although as the car gets older it's been needing more work. Well, until I have the money for another car it will have to stay that way.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 16:53:15
Raine on 06/18/2008 16:53:15
Velveeta just called! She says Hi and she misses everyone a lot!
They have moved her from Iowa to Madison Wisconsin, where she is awaiting further instruction. She is drinking Skanky coffee, but is doing fine otherwise.
Wisconsin got hit pretty hard by the floods as well, and it seems as tho the media is kinda not reporting about it. Last year was thier turn for floods evidently, and even tho this year was even worse, they have decided to focus on Missouri, Iowa and Illinois. :grumble:
She will touch base on the blog as soon as she can, they are still awaiting supplies, like cars and phones and laptops.
They have moved her from Iowa to Madison Wisconsin, where she is awaiting further instruction. She is drinking Skanky coffee, but is doing fine otherwise.
Wisconsin got hit pretty hard by the floods as well, and it seems as tho the media is kinda not reporting about it. Last year was thier turn for floods evidently, and even tho this year was even worse, they have decided to focus on Missouri, Iowa and Illinois. :grumble:
She will touch base on the blog as soon as she can, they are still awaiting supplies, like cars and phones and laptops.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:53:25
starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:53:25
Plus, my regular mechanic gives me a 10% discount because I work for a local company. So, that will save me money anyway. And, if he feels the work is needed and is going to charge less, or the same amount, I would still rather have him do the work because I know he's good.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:54:19
Oy....that puts my day into perspective.
Poor Velveeta.
starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:54:19
Quote by Raine:
Velveeta just called! She says Hi and she misses everyone a lot!
They have moved her from Iowa to Madison Wisconsin, where she is awaiting further instruction. She is drinking Skanky coffee, but is doing fine otherwise.
Wisconsin got hit pretty hard by the floods as well, and it seems as tho the media is kinda not reporting about it. Last year was thier turn for floods evidently, and even tho this year was even worse, they have decided to focus on Missouri, Iowa and Illinois. :grumble:
She will touch base on the blog as soon as she can, they are still awaiting supplies, like cars and phones and laptops.
Oy....that puts my day into perspective.
Poor Velveeta.
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 16:55:01
I've been taking my car to the place I get my tires for years. They won me over when I went to Brake-O, and they insisted I needed >$1000 in work to get my brakes in shape (why do they always want to replace the calipers?), and my tire place said, "naw - you only need new pads".
BobR on 06/18/2008 16:55:01
Quote by livingonli:
I actually still go to my dealer for my car work. Although as the car gets older it's been needing more work. Well, until I have the money for another car it will have to stay that way.
I've been taking my car to the place I get my tires for years. They won me over when I went to Brake-O, and they insisted I needed >$1000 in work to get my brakes in shape (why do they always want to replace the calipers?), and my tire place said, "naw - you only need new pads".
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:57:54
This is for you Velveeta. We miss you too.
Just stay safe out there.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:57:54
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
Velveeta just called! She says Hi and she misses everyone a lot!
They have moved her from Iowa to Madison Wisconsin, where she is awaiting further instruction. She is drinking Skanky coffee, but is doing fine otherwise.
Wisconsin got hit pretty hard by the floods as well, and it seems as tho the media is kinda not reporting about it. Last year was thier turn for floods evidently, and even tho this year was even worse, they have decided to focus on Missouri, Iowa and Illinois. :grumble:
She will touch base on the blog as soon as she can, they are still awaiting supplies, like cars and phones and laptops.
Oy....that puts my day into perspective.
Poor Velveeta.
This is for you Velveeta. We miss you too.
Just stay safe out there.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:59:13
starling310 on 06/18/2008 16:59:13
Terry Jeffries coming up on Thom. . . I have to say, Thom has changed my opinion of him. Yeah, he's still a tool, but he and Thom have had some really good, fair discussions.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:59:26
It seems that both Wisconsin and Illinois have also been affected by this. I only saw the Illinois coverage on WGN's newscast. It hasn't been on any of the national networks.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 16:59:26
Quote by Raine:
Velveeta just called! She says Hi and she misses everyone a lot!
They have moved her from Iowa to Madison Wisconsin, where she is awaiting further instruction. She is drinking Skanky coffee, but is doing fine otherwise.
Wisconsin got hit pretty hard by the floods as well, and it seems as tho the media is kinda not reporting about it. Last year was thier turn for floods evidently, and even tho this year was even worse, they have decided to focus on Missouri, Iowa and Illinois. :grumble:
She will touch base on the blog as soon as she can, they are still awaiting supplies, like cars and phones and laptops.
It seems that both Wisconsin and Illinois have also been affected by this. I only saw the Illinois coverage on WGN's newscast. It hasn't been on any of the national networks.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:00:27
I still want to make fun of his squeaky voice.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:00:27
Quote by starling310:
Terry Jeffries coming up on Thom. . . I have to say, Thom has changed my opinion of him. Yeah, he's still a tool, but he and Thom have had some really good, fair discussions.
I still want to make fun of his squeaky voice.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 17:03:09
That goes without saying.
starling310 on 06/18/2008 17:03:09
Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310:
Terry Jeffries coming up on Thom. . . I have to say, Thom has changed my opinion of him. Yeah, he's still a tool, but he and Thom have had some really good, fair discussions.
I still want to make fun of his squeaky voice.
That goes without saying.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:10:46
livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:10:46
Now playing: Black-Pearl Jam live from MSG.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:22:39
livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:22:39
Amy Goodman will be on Shoot the Messenger July 14th and I will be working that night.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 17:33:58
Random on 06/18/2008 17:33:58
Random missed something...why has Velveeta left?
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:36:59
Velveeta does volunteer work for American Red Cross. She was called out to the Midwest floods. That's why she went to Iowa and now Wisconsin.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:36:59
Quote by Random:
Random missed something...why has Velveeta left?
Velveeta does volunteer work for American Red Cross. She was called out to the Midwest floods. That's why she went to Iowa and now Wisconsin.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:37:41
livingonli on 06/18/2008 17:37:41
So Thom Hartmann is watching The View right now. :D
This is the time it would be on the West Coast ABC affiliates.
This is the time it would be on the West Coast ABC affiliates.
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 17:41:21
wow, that's cool.
Random on 06/18/2008 17:41:21
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
Random missed something...why has Velveeta left?
Velveeta does volunteer work for American Red Cross. She was called out to the Midwest floods. That's why she went to Iowa and now Wisconsin.
wow, that's cool.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 18:03:19
starling310 on 06/18/2008 18:03:19
Just watched The View for the first Evah to see the lovely Michelle Obama. Wow, is that show annoying??? Oofda.
Comment by AuntAzalea on 06/18/2008 18:10:10
Velveeta just called me and she wanted you to know she was just transfered to Fond du Lac, which apparently is parallel to Sheybogan Ms. Velveeta thought you all would find that amusing.
Great blog by the way- BobR
Ms. Velveeta thought you all would find that amusing.Great blog by the way- BobR
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 18:32:46
TriSec on 06/18/2008 18:32:46
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 18:33:21
Random on 06/18/2008 18:33:21
WOOT!
Random finally WINS!
Random finally WINS!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 18:37:53
So she's up the transit? :D
Good to hear from her AA!
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 18:37:53
Quote by AuntAzalea:
Velveeta just called me and she wanted you to know she was just transfered to Fond du Lac, which apparently is parallel to Sheybogan
Great blog by the way- BobR
So she's up the transit? :D
Good to hear from her AA!
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 18:40:19
What did you win?
livingonli on 06/18/2008 18:40:19
Quote by Random:
WOOT!
Random finally WINS!
What did you win?
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 18:49:29
Random on 06/18/2008 18:49:29
Oh...Random has to show this off...just for the constant use of the a bad word he won't say here.
[Note from the staff: NOT work safe]
Comment by Random on 06/18/2008 19:03:18
Wells, random has this really cool game for the DS that he got two years ago when he got the DS. and he just finally beat it.
IT was really hard, but really fun, and now he has to go wonder why it took him two years.
Random on 06/18/2008 19:03:18
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
WOOT!
Random finally WINS!
What did you win?
Wells, random has this really cool game for the DS that he got two years ago when he got the DS. and he just finally beat it.
IT was really hard, but really fun, and now he has to go wonder why it took him two years.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 19:19:52
livingonli on 06/18/2008 19:19:52
Randi's in one of her "it's all about me" moments.
Comment by starling310 on 06/18/2008 19:20:56
starling310 on 06/18/2008 19:20:56
Umm....Randi....she wasn't singing to you....it was a concert.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 19:21:52
livingonli on 06/18/2008 19:21:52
Since I have to get a new badge since mine broke I'm heading out a little early.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/18/2008 19:23:38
This is one of the main reasons I'm finding I have to take an extended vacation from Randi. The "all about me" stuff is annoying.
wickedpam on 06/18/2008 19:23:38
Quote by starling310:
Umm....Randi....she wasn't singing to you....it was a concert.
This is one of the main reasons I'm finding I have to take an extended vacation from Randi. The "all about me" stuff is annoying.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 19:25:40
Raine on 06/18/2008 19:25:40
Massive pot of *gravy* (sorry Tri, I still call it sawce) is now cooking away at casa de Raine and Bob. Homegrown oregano, thyme and Basil... fresh Rosemary, garlic, onions
Slurp! dinner at 730!
Homegrown oregano, thyme and Basil... fresh Rosemary, garlic, onions Slurp! dinner at 730!
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 19:30:19
I don't know what I find more Funny... Fond du Lac (is that some kinda cheese dish?) or Sheboygan!
BarkPark!
Raine on 06/18/2008 19:30:19
Quote by AuntAzalea:
Velveeta just called me and she wanted you to know she was just transfered to Fond du Lac, which apparently is parallel to Sheybogan
Great blog by the way- BobR
BarkPark!
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 19:31:56
Raine on 06/18/2008 19:31:56
ok, listening to the news... Mario Lopez is looking for a Woman?? 
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 19:38:45
I didn't realize she was lost. :huh:
BobR on 06/18/2008 19:38:45
Quote by Raine:
ok, listening to the news... Mario Lopez is looking for a Woman??
I didn't realize she was lost. :huh:
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 19:40:14
Raine on 06/18/2008 19:40:14
yeah, I can hear the horsey in Randi's voice. I missed her *all about Me* moments at the beginning of the show. But I like what she is saying about the leaders who did NOT show up to help with the floods.
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 19:54:55
meanwhile, in Brooklyn they're serving deep-fried pizza.
Wow - something deep-fried that's NOT from GA...
BobR on 06/18/2008 19:54:55
Quote by BobR:
The best pizza in the U.S. is in ....
Phoenix?
meanwhile, in Brooklyn they're serving deep-fried pizza.
Wow - something deep-fried that's NOT from GA...
Comment by TriSec on 06/18/2008 19:59:15
TriSec on 06/18/2008 19:59:15
Sauce v. Gravy....is there meat in it? If you start with the pan drippings, it's gravy. If it's strictly vegetarian, it's still sauce.
Best pizza in the US is at the original Pizzeria Regina in the North End, don't waste your time with those mall knockoffs...
Best pizza in the US is at the original Pizzeria Regina in the North End, don't waste your time with those mall knockoffs...
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 20:07:34
Raine on 06/18/2008 20:07:34
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 20:07:41
What if it has meat and you didn't start with the pan drippings?
BobR on 06/18/2008 20:07:41
Quote by TriSec:
Sauce v. Gravy....is there meat in it? If you start with the pan drippings, it's gravy. If it's strictly vegetarian, it's still sauce.
Best pizza in the US is at the original Pizzeria Regina in the North End, don't waste your time with those mall knockoffs...
What if it has meat and you didn't start with the pan drippings?
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 20:09:19
WTF?!?! Oh brooklyn, you break my heart.
Raine on 06/18/2008 20:09:19
Quote by BobR:Quote by BobR:
The best pizza in the U.S. is in ....
Phoenix?
meanwhile, in Brooklyn they're serving deep-fried pizza.
Wow - something deep-fried that's NOT from GA...
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 20:13:30
it does not have drippings.
Raine on 06/18/2008 20:13:30
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Sauce v. Gravy....is there meat in it? If you start with the pan drippings, it's gravy. If it's strictly vegetarian, it's still sauce.
Best pizza in the US is at the original Pizzeria Regina in the North End, don't waste your time with those mall knockoffs...
What if it has meat and you didn't start with the pan drippings?
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 20:15:14
Raine on 06/18/2008 20:15:14
Wow... SO the money is in the disaster relief funds even tho the resident says we don't have enough for another disaster, when he doesn't even know how much this one will cost?
F*cker.
F*cker.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 20:17:08
Raine on 06/18/2008 20:17:08
Anyone listening to Randi? Did I misunderstand something?
She is saying that he doesn't want to use the disaster relief fund? I may have to go back and reread the statement made by *ush.
She is saying that he doesn't want to use the disaster relief fund? I may have to go back and reread the statement made by *ush.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 20:27:53
Raine on 06/18/2008 20:27:53
I am almost tempted to call Randi. EVERYONE seems to be missing a really important point. Read this again, from *ush, yesterday:
Bush doesn't have a clue about how much these floods are going to cost. NOONE knows yet, so he cannot possibly know if there is going to be enough money, so when he says he wants it attached to the UPCOMING supplemental, he wants it attached to the WAR funding vote.
Congress needs to wake the hell up... NOW.
And finally, Director Nussle is here from the Budget Office. We've got what we called a Disaster Relief Fund. There's enough money in that fund to take care of this disaster. But what we're concerned about is future disasters this year. And therefore, we're going to work with the Congress. Jim Nussle is going to go up to work with Congress to get enough money in the upcoming supplemental to make sure that fund is -- has got enough money to deal with a potential disaster, another disaster this year.
Congress doesn't need to worry about working with the White House on this, because we think the supplemental is the way to go. What they do need to worry about is making sure that there is enough but not too much money in the fund, so we can say we have done our job.
Bush doesn't have a clue about how much these floods are going to cost. NOONE knows yet, so he cannot possibly know if there is going to be enough money, so when he says he wants it attached to the UPCOMING supplemental, he wants it attached to the WAR funding vote.
Congress needs to wake the hell up... NOW.
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 21:01:05
BobR on 06/18/2008 21:01:05
FYI: Raine on hold with Randi...
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 21:12:51
This place is been listed as the best pizza in US a buncha times. It is friggin yuppie pizza as far as I can make out. All artisinal n such like. Blah blah blah.
The two nights of no sleep are starting to take their toll. :wacko:
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 21:12:51
Quote by BobR:
The best pizza in the U.S. is in ....
Phoenix?
This place is been listed as the best pizza in US a buncha times. It is friggin yuppie pizza as far as I can make out. All artisinal n such like. Blah blah blah.
The two nights of no sleep are starting to take their toll. :wacko:
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 21:30:03
Raine on 06/18/2008 21:30:03
Interesting listening to the local news in florida... Still on hold...
Comment by BobR on 06/18/2008 21:36:31
oh god forbid that they actually take pride in using the best ingredients available.
at least it isn't a square lump of dough with ketchup and cheese and cut into squares... :rolleyes2:
BobR on 06/18/2008 21:36:31
Quote by Mondobubba:
This place is been listed as the best pizza in US a buncha times. It is friggin yuppie pizza as far as I can make out. All artisinal n such like. Blah blah blah.
The two nights of no sleep are starting to take their toll. :wacko:
oh god forbid that they actually take pride in using the best ingredients available.
at least it isn't a square lump of dough with ketchup and cheese and cut into squares... :rolleyes2:
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 21:43:12
There is a certain type of foodie behavior which make the most mundane of foods into an exotic dining experience. I'm sure this guy's pizza is amazing, the gormentization of everything just make my hackles rise a little bit.
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 21:43:12
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
This place is been listed as the best pizza in US a buncha times. It is friggin yuppie pizza as far as I can make out. All artisinal n such like. Blah blah blah.
The two nights of no sleep are starting to take their toll. :wacko:
oh god forbid that they actually take pride in using the best ingredients available.
at least it isn't a square lump of dough with ketchup and cheese and cut into squares... :rolleyes2:
There is a certain type of foodie behavior which make the most mundane of foods into an exotic dining experience. I'm sure this guy's pizza is amazing, the gormentization of everything just make my hackles rise a little bit.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 21:54:44
Raine on 06/18/2008 21:54:44
this ain't gonna happen... :(
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 22:10:11
At least you get on with Momma.
I would have loved to have heard it though.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 22:10:11
Quote by Raine:
this ain't gonna happen... :(
At least you get on with Momma.
I would have loved to have heard it though.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 22:22:17
Raine on 06/18/2008 22:22:17
Oh well. I gotta give myself props for trying. 
I still contend that the media is missing a very important issue regardign the things that *ush said.
On the other side, yes, it good that we are talking about torture. :peace:
I still contend that the media is missing a very important issue regardign the things that *ush said. On the other side, yes, it good that we are talking about torture. :peace:
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 22:24:33
I may call tomorrow and say something. Momma doesn't usually deal with issues this deep. Altho, I know chris would appreciate it.
Raine on 06/18/2008 22:24:33
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
this ain't gonna happen... :(
At least you get on with Momma.
I would have loved to have heard it though.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 22:35:23
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 22:35:23
I am so friggin tired. :thud:
:thud:
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 22:37:14
That seems to be going around.
livingonli on 06/18/2008 22:37:14
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so friggin tired.
That seems to be going around.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 23:01:21
livingonli on 06/18/2008 23:01:21
The Atlanta WNBA team is 0-10.
Comment by Raine on 06/18/2008 23:25:35
you sound like you need a little pill and a nice glass of wine dahlink.
Raine on 06/18/2008 23:25:35
Quote by Mondobubba:
I am so friggin tired.
you sound like you need a little pill and a nice glass of wine dahlink.
Comment by livingonli on 06/18/2008 23:49:44
livingonli on 06/18/2008 23:49:44
Any love for livin' ? Livin just wants attention.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 23:59:08
Mondobubba on 06/18/2008 23:59:08
Wow! I wish I could get Springsteen to be at my memorial service like Tim Russerts. Doing "Thunder Road," which seems wildly inappropriate, but hey that is just me.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:01:20
There's always "Cadillac Ranch".
livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:01:20
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow! I wish I could get Springsteen to be at my memorial service like Tim Russerts. Doing "Thunder Road," which seems wildly inappropriate, but hey that is just me.
There's always "Cadillac Ranch".
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 00:06:19
capt on 06/19/2008 00:06:19
Born in the USA would be too much?
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:20:12
livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:20:12
Hi capt. Welcome to the blog.
Comment by velveeta jones on 06/19/2008 00:22:42
velveeta jones on 06/19/2008 00:22:42
Evening folks!
Great post BobR! :clap:
So much going on here and I only have a short time on this computer. First, Aunt Azalea missed the best part of my being right up the tranist from Sheybogan........ I will drive through........... Beaver Dam!
Now. I really don't know what'll be happening tomorrow, or were exactly I'll be. Currently I'm in a "hotel" a step up from the shit-hole hotel that I was in last night (I'd rather be in a shelter). I'll be sleeping on the floor and trying not to think about what is on the carpet *shudder*. Beds already filled. One of the workers that is housing me, told me a story:
Yesterday she drove to Janesville WI but had heard about the sandbagging efforts in Newville, just down the road. Her group drove there to check it out and she found an RV park that was completely underwater. The residents too afraid to go to a shelter. They currently have no service (though now the ARC has sent a truck to give them meals and clean water). Stories like this seem all too common.
Its all very sad and confusing.
Tomorrow I will be somewhere else, rumors abound that some of us may be sent to Mo. So who knows?
Just glad I got to drop in.
Peace!
Great post BobR! :clap:
So much going on here and I only have a short time on this computer. First, Aunt Azalea missed the best part of my being right up the tranist from Sheybogan........ I will drive through........... Beaver Dam!
Now. I really don't know what'll be happening tomorrow, or were exactly I'll be. Currently I'm in a "hotel" a step up from the shit-hole hotel that I was in last night (I'd rather be in a shelter). I'll be sleeping on the floor and trying not to think about what is on the carpet *shudder*. Beds already filled. One of the workers that is housing me, told me a story:
Yesterday she drove to Janesville WI but had heard about the sandbagging efforts in Newville, just down the road. Her group drove there to check it out and she found an RV park that was completely underwater. The residents too afraid to go to a shelter. They currently have no service (though now the ARC has sent a truck to give them meals and clean water). Stories like this seem all too common.
Its all very sad and confusing.
Tomorrow I will be somewhere else, rumors abound that some of us may be sent to Mo. So who knows?
Just glad I got to drop in.
Peace!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:27:30
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:27:30
Great job opening, but its in the
Marshall Islands
Specifically, Kwajalein didn't we invade it during WWII?
Specifically, Kwajalein didn't we invade it during WWII?
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:30:04
Were there chalk outlines on the carpet VJ? Was there a kid on skateboard unlocking the door to the room? I've never had the murder room, but the kid on the skateboard is true. The Imperial in Florence, SC. :shudder:
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:30:04
Quote by velveeta jones:
Evening folks!
Great post BobR! :clap:
So much going on here and I only have a short time on this computer. First, Aunt Azalea missed the best part of my being right up the tranist from Sheybogan........ I will drive through........... Beaver Dam!
Now. I really don't know what'll be happening tomorrow, or were exactly I'll be. Currently I'm in a "hotel" a step up from the shit-hole hotel that I was in last night (I'd rather be in a shelter). I'll be sleeping on the floor and trying not to think about what is on the carpet *shudder*. Beds already filled. One of the workers that is housing me, told me a story:
Yesterday she drove to Janesville WI but had heard about the sandbagging efforts in Newville, just down the road. Her group drove there to check it out and she found an RV park that was completely underwater. The residents too afraid to go to a shelter. They currently have no service (though now the ARC has sent a truck to give them meals and clean water). Stories like this seem all too common.
Its all very sad and confusing.
Tomorrow I will be somewhere else, rumors abound that some of us may be sent to Mo. So who knows?
Just glad I got to drop in.
Peace!
Were there chalk outlines on the carpet VJ? Was there a kid on skateboard unlocking the door to the room? I've never had the murder room, but the kid on the skateboard is true. The Imperial in Florence, SC. :shudder:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:32:09
livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:32:09
Thanks for the update, Velveeta. I guess Randi said it best today and said that George Bush doesn't care about anyone. You would think that the Red Cross could at least spring for a Motel 6 or something like that.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:38:27
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:38:27
I love when I am right. I've been saying for about a month or so now that about 25-30 percent of the price of barrel of oil is speculation. Now they got a report on KO that says just that. Why don't I have a job as a analyst of some kind? :shrug:
Comment by velveeta jones on 06/19/2008 00:39:48
Liv, the RC is trying to save $. Hey, its okay, normally we stay in a shelter. In a big room with 100-300 other people, all on cots. At least we have a toilet nearby!
I'm off. See ya'll soon!
velveeta jones on 06/19/2008 00:39:48
Quote by livingonli:
Thanks for the update, Velveeta. I guess Randi said it best today and said that George Bush doesn't care about anyone. You would think that the Red Cross could at least spring for a Motel 6 or something like that.
Liv, the RC is trying to save $. Hey, its okay, normally we stay in a shelter. In a big room with 100-300 other people, all on cots. At least we have a toilet nearby!
I'm off. See ya'll soon!
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:43:26
livingonli on 06/19/2008 00:43:26
Take care. Chat with you when you get back or the next time you have a computer.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:52:12
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 00:52:12
I love when I am right. I've been saying for about a month or so now that about 25-30 percent of the price of barrel of oil is speculation. Now they got a report on KO that says just that. Why don't I have a job as a analyst of some kind? :shrug:
Comment by 
MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:07:25
okay, I had to STOP watching KO on that story, with the connections to Enron and Phil Gramm I was ready to scream and kill somethin. F*CKERS.
Peace and love to VJ, who is not too far up the road from us here, bout 6 hours or so. Janesville is a lovely place, as is much of WI (tho I ain't been to Sheboygan!)
I think we just missed the flooding here by that much this year. This is as bad as when I moved out here and you had to be rerouted around the Mississippi.
MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:07:25
Quote by Mondobubba:
I love when I am right. I've been saying for about a month or so now that about 25-30 percent of the price of barrel of oil is speculation. Now they got a report on KO that says just that. Why don't I have a job as a analyst of some kind? :shrug:
okay, I had to STOP watching KO on that story, with the connections to Enron and Phil Gramm I was ready to scream and kill somethin. F*CKERS.
Peace and love to VJ, who is not too far up the road from us here, bout 6 hours or so. Janesville is a lovely place, as is much of WI (tho I ain't been to Sheboygan!)
I think we just missed the flooding here by that much this year. This is as bad as when I moved out here and you had to be rerouted around the Mississippi.
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 01:12:00
TriSec on 06/19/2008 01:12:00
Evening, comrades.
Los Busteros son una ripetamente, or something like that.
Los Busteros son una ripetamente, or something like that.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 01:14:10
Raine on 06/19/2008 01:14:10
Welcome capt! Yes, Bornm in the USA may have been a touch too much!
Hola MNRN, so nice to see you! I told Velveeta that I thought she was pretty close to your neck of the woods.
And VELVEETA! glad you could drop in, sorry I missed you. We were busy partaking in dinner festivities.
Liv, you have attention. you should take a pill and a glass of Wine as well...
Hola MNRN, so nice to see you! I told Velveeta that I thought she was pretty close to your neck of the woods.
And VELVEETA! glad you could drop in, sorry I missed you. We were busy partaking in dinner festivities.
Liv, you have attention. you should take a pill and a glass of Wine as well...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:18:35
I was listening to the fabu Terry Gross about month and half ago and she had one of the guys who was testifying on the shew. He was the one who hipped me to the evil that is Phil Gramm. Said dude (name is escaping me) has written a book about the shadow trading economy. It just ain't oil trading, it is all kinds of weird derivatives like umm mortgage backed securities that were deregulated. You would think that after Orange County, CA went bankrupt in the early 90s there would have been more calls for transparency and regulation of the financial items, but noooooo! Thanks Phil you massive, anal fissure.
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:18:35
Quote by MNRN:Quote by Mondobubba:
I love when I am right. I've been saying for about a month or so now that about 25-30 percent of the price of barrel of oil is speculation. Now they got a report on KO that says just that. Why don't I have a job as a analyst of some kind? :shrug:
okay, I had to STOP watching KO on that story, with the connections to Enron and Phil Gramm I was ready to scream and kill somethin. F*CKERS.
Peace and love to VJ, who is not too far up the road from us here, bout 6 hours or so. Janesville is a lovely place, as is much of WI (tho I ain't been to Sheboygan!)
I think we just missed the flooding here by that much this year. This is as bad as when I moved out here and you had to be rerouted around the Mississippi.
I was listening to the fabu Terry Gross about month and half ago and she had one of the guys who was testifying on the shew. He was the one who hipped me to the evil that is Phil Gramm. Said dude (name is escaping me) has written a book about the shadow trading economy. It just ain't oil trading, it is all kinds of weird derivatives like umm mortgage backed securities that were deregulated. You would think that after Orange County, CA went bankrupt in the early 90s there would have been more calls for transparency and regulation of the financial items, but noooooo! Thanks Phil you massive, anal fissure.
Comment by MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:18:48
MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:18:48
I have had my glass of the wine. Dats it, cause 5 a-m comes awfully quick...The summer slog has hit the hospital for small sick people very hard and the days are 10 hours long if ya want. Other wise is 10 hours for someone else. Needless to say, I put in for an early out tomorrow. HA! Lets see if I get it.
Tri so nice to read you.
Tri
so nice to read you.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 01:19:34
You and me both...
BobR on 06/19/2008 01:19:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
I love when I am right. I've been saying for about a month or so now that about 25-30 percent of the price of barrel of oil is speculation. Now they got a report on KO that says just that. Why don't I have a job as a analyst of some kind? :shrug:
You and me both...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:20:03
New to me! Plus it is chance to look at :sigh: Kari Byron. :scribbles her name all over my notebook cover:
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:20:03
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, comrades.
Los Busteros son una ripetamente, or something like that.
New to me! Plus it is chance to look at :sigh: Kari Byron. :scribbles her name all over my notebook cover:
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 01:20:29
BobR on 06/19/2008 01:20:29
Wine and pills for everyone!!
Comment by MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:20:56
MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:20:56
oh and Mondo, don't forget to thank the lovely Mrs. Wendy Gramm. OOOOHHH I just HATE her.
sigh.
you know your nurse is really usually full of love and light and peace and healing, but these people make me just awful.
sigh.
you know your nurse is really usually full of love and light and peace and healing, but these people make me just awful.
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 01:21:49
Larry Sinclair was Arrested by Metro DC police at the PRess Club!
Raine on 06/19/2008 01:21:49
Quote by BobR:
I signed this petition, for whatever that was worth...
Larry Sinclair was Arrested by Metro DC police at the PRess Club!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:22:25
I like "no-value-added greed" can I use that?
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:22:25
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
I love when I am right. I've been saying for about a month or so now that about 25-30 percent of the price of barrel of oil is speculation. Now they got a report on KO that says just that. Why don't I have a job as a analyst of some kind? :shrug:
You and me both...
I like "no-value-added greed" can I use that?
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 01:22:56
:D
Welcome to the blog... how did you happen to find us?
BobR on 06/19/2008 01:22:56
Quote by capt:
Born in the USA would be too much?
:D
Welcome to the blog... how did you happen to find us?
Comment by MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:23:19
and now, BobR is a nurse too!!!
MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:23:19
Quote by BobR:
Wine and pills for everyone!!
and now, BobR is a nurse too!!!
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 01:24:20
Sure! - I know you only steal from the best... :P
BobR on 06/19/2008 01:24:20
Quote by Mondobubba:
I like "no-value-added greed" can I use that?
Sure! - I know you only steal from the best... :P
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 01:25:08
Raine on 06/19/2008 01:25:08
OMG, This is amazing... regarding LArry Sinclair, the man who claimed to have information on Barack obama (see the previous story I linked)
From a Kos Diary:
From a Kos Diary:
I attended Larry Sinclair's press conference today and was confused when he concluded by rushing out of the room, taking no more questions. The reason? He was arrested by the D.C. metropolitan police. I called the First District station where he was being held and confirmed that Lawrence Wayne Sinclair was charged as a fugitive from justice based on an outstanding warrant.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:30:56
She looks like about 5'4" of pure evil! :evil:
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:30:56
Quote by MNRN:
oh and Mondo, don't forget to thank the lovely Mrs. Wendy Gramm. OOOOHHH I just HATE her.
sigh.
you know your nurse is really usually full of love and light and peace and healing, but these people make me just awful.
She looks like about 5'4" of pure evil! :evil:
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 01:31:01
AND ther eis more... from that same article:
So McCain is gonna try to make hay of this I suspect.
Raine on 06/19/2008 01:31:01
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:
I signed this petition, for whatever that was worth...
Larry Sinclair was Arrested by Metro DC police at the PRess Club!
At the Press Club, Avi also ran into Will Bower, a sometimes-Huffington Post blogger who founded “Party Unity, My Ass” – a group for die-hard Clinton supporters that are now backing McCain – and was invited by the McCain campaign last weekend to meet with the presumptive Republican nominee, and called Sinclair's story "worth exploring."
“I don’t think he should be written off without consideration,” he said when asked about Sinclair. “I think its worth exploring.”
So McCain is gonna try to make hay of this I suspect.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 01:31:22
capt on 06/19/2008 01:31:22
Quote]Welcome to the blog... how did you happen to find us?
I think I heard of the place on the SMS liveblog or maybe I was on the USS Lollipop, my memory being what it isn't.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 01:33:17
Hi. My name is Larry Sinclair and I'm a crooked scumbag.
Hi, Larry.
Let him rot while his lawyer worries about what parts are under his kilt.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 01:33:17
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:
I signed this petition, for whatever that was worth...
Larry Sinclair was Arrested by Metro DC police at the PRess Club!
Hi. My name is Larry Sinclair and I'm a crooked scumbag.
Hi, Larry.
Let him rot while his lawyer worries about what parts are under his kilt.
Comment by BobR on 06/19/2008 01:34:34
cool!
we've got lots of toys here to play with...
BobR on 06/19/2008 01:34:34
Quote by capt:
I think I heard of the place on the SMS liveblog or maybe I was on the USS Lollipop, my memory being what it isn't.
cool!
we've got lots of toys here to play with...
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 01:38:02
I think I heard of the place on the SMS liveblog or maybe I was on the USS Lollipop, my memory being what it isn't.
oooOOOooo the best night I never remembered was on the USS Lollipop. I think it was a bunch of suckers! Raine on 06/19/2008 01:38:02
Quote by capt:
Quote]Welcome to the blog... how did you happen to find us?
I think I heard of the place on the SMS liveblog or maybe I was on the USS Lollipop, my memory being what it isn't.
Welcome aboard!
I am off to watch the View from this afternoon (with Ms. Obama) be back later!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:41:57
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:41:57
Tri, you are the blog pyromaniac, ever put bullets in a campfire?
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 01:51:16
Sounds like something G. Gordon Liddy would do.
livingonli on 06/19/2008 01:51:16
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, you are the blog pyromaniac, ever put bullets in a campfire?
Sounds like something G. Gordon Liddy would do.
Comment by MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:55:26
MNRN on 06/19/2008 01:55:26
wow, Mondo you ARE sleep deprived.
now to switch off my brain, the Top Chef Reunion show! Night friends....
now to switch off my brain, the Top Chef Reunion show! Night friends....
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:59:13
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 01:59:13
Blowing up beer kegs. I want the Mythbusters job. Blowing shit up and getting paid for it!
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 01:59:18
capt on 06/19/2008 01:59:18
Thanks for the gracious welcome!
I will be stopping by often, I love most of what I have read here, especially the humor and whatnot - I LOVE to laugh and I always crack myself up! I try to post funny or informative stuff and never mean any ill will to anybody. My humor can fall very flat but seldom offends, it always sounds WAY funnier inside my head but everything does so that is not a fair measure.
I will be stopping by often, I love most of what I have read here, especially the humor and whatnot - I LOVE to laugh and I always crack myself up! I try to post funny or informative stuff and never mean any ill will to anybody. My humor can fall very flat but seldom offends, it always sounds WAY funnier inside my head but everything does so that is not a fair measure.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 01:59:39
livingonli on 06/19/2008 01:59:39
Good night, MNRN. Sweet dreams. Give our regards to SSG.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:00:26
Mythbusters get to do it!
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:00:26
Quote by MNRN:
wow, Mondo you ARE sleep deprived.
now to switch off my brain, the Top Chef Reunion show! Night friends....
Mythbusters get to do it!
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 02:01:06
capt on 06/19/2008 02:01:06
Blowing up beer kegs - that happened to a group when I lived in NC. Some knucklehead threw a keg on a bon fire - you know the rest . . .
Darwin awards all around, eh?
Darwin awards all around, eh?
Comment by TriSec on 06/19/2008 02:03:13
No, but we have done Bic lighters and aerosol bug spray. The lighter gave us a big fireball, but the bug spray went off like a fragmentation grenade. Luckily, there were no injuries, mostly because we were all in a full-bore linear panic by the time it went off.
TriSec on 06/19/2008 02:03:13
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, you are the blog pyromaniac, ever put bullets in a campfire?
No, but we have done Bic lighters and aerosol bug spray. The lighter gave us a big fireball, but the bug spray went off like a fragmentation grenade. Luckily, there were no injuries, mostly because we were all in a full-bore linear panic by the time it went off.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:07:37
The Boy Scouts doing dangerous things with fire for over 100 years! I've not met somebody serously in Scouting who hasn't done something incredibly dangerous with fire.
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:07:37
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, you are the blog pyromaniac, ever put bullets in a campfire?
No, but we have done Bic lighters and aerosol bug spray. The lighter gave us a big fireball, but the bug spray went off like a fragmentation grenade. Luckily, there were no injuries, mostly because we were all in a full-bore linear panic by the time it went off.
The Boy Scouts doing dangerous things with fire for over 100 years!
I've not met somebody serously in Scouting who hasn't done something incredibly dangerous with fire.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:08:39
Oh dear :Mrs Miller:
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:08:39
Quote by capt:
Blowing up beer kegs - that happened to a group when I lived in NC. Some knucklehead threw a keg on a bon fire - you know the rest . . .
Darwin awards all around, eh?
Oh dear :Mrs Miller:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:08:53
livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:08:53
I guess we're moving way beyond the Pop Rocks and Coke phase or as a recent Simpsons episode showed Mentos and Pepsi. (I don't think they used Buzz Cola).
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 02:10:22
We used zippo's and aqua-net hairspray. Never blew up a can - made quite a flame thrower. I'm pretty sure someone lost an eyebrow or two.
Good times. .
capt on 06/19/2008 02:10:22
Bic lighters and aerosol bug spray
We used zippo's and aqua-net hairspray. Never blew up a can - made quite a flame thrower. I'm pretty sure someone lost an eyebrow or two.
Good times. .
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:10:22
livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:10:22
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
Blowing up beer kegs - that happened to a group when I lived in NC. Some knucklehead threw a keg on a bon fire - you know the rest . . .
Darwin awards all around, eh?
Oh dear :Mrs Miller:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:14:58
livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:14:58
Hey, where's Random been? He hasn't posted since early afternoon.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:16:22
Mondobubba on 06/19/2008 02:16:22
:rofl: Rio just woke up stretched hugely hopped out of his chair got about ten steps and had to sit back down and yawn. Lazy slug.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 02:18:38
Random on 06/19/2008 02:18:38
Capt!
Wow...Capt is here.
Wow...Capt is here.
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 02:19:49
That explains the burning in my ear.
So could you stop, please? the burning hurts Random.
Random on 06/19/2008 02:19:49
Quote by livingonli:
Hey, where's Random been? He hasn't posted since early afternoon.
That explains the burning in my ear.
So could you stop, please? the burning hurts Random.
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:25:44
livingonli on 06/19/2008 02:25:44
Party on the blog. 
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 02:34:51
capt on 06/19/2008 02:34:51
I'm barely learned how to get here - I did lurk for a few. Took FOREVER to register and post something.
Speaking of something have you'all seen this? From kos
George W. Bush Blames Torture Policy on U.S. Troops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcbEuHGsQI4
It only takes a couple of minutes for Bush to blame the troops for his own incompetence
Speaking of something have you'all seen this? From kos
George W. Bush Blames Torture Policy on U.S. Troops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcbEuHGsQI4
It only takes a couple of minutes for Bush to blame the troops for his own incompetence
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 02:38:18
Random on 06/19/2008 02:38:18
See, that's real Commanderish and Leader guy stuff right there. I'm not responsible for what the people i'm in charge of are doing.
What's the proverb, "the chain is only as strong as the weakest link"
What's the proverb, "the chain is only as strong as the weakest link"
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 02:42:47
capt on 06/19/2008 02:42:47
Bush still makes my blood boil. AAARRRGGGHHH
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 02:47:18
capt on 06/19/2008 02:47:18
If you don't accept responsibility for your own actions, then you are forever chained to a position of defense.
Holly Lisle, Fire In The Mist, 1992
Holly Lisle, Fire In The Mist, 1992
Comment by Random on 06/19/2008 02:51:38
Cool, we're getting quotes here too.
Random on 06/19/2008 02:51:38
Quote by capt:
If you don't accept responsibility for your own actions, then you are forever chained to a position of defense.
Holly Lisle, Fire In The Mist, 1992
Cool, we're getting quotes here too.
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 02:55:50
capt on 06/19/2008 02:55:50
Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and quoted.
~ Fred Allen (1894 - 1956)
~ Fred Allen (1894 - 1956)
Comment by capt on 06/19/2008 03:17:03
capt on 06/19/2008 03:17:03
Cafferty File: McCain is liable to break a hip with all his flip-flops
Jack Cafferty’s 4 o’clock question Wednesday dealt with the interesting position John McCain finds himself in while he tries to play both sides of the fence on literally every issue in an attempt to secure the support of the dwindling GOP base, while at the same time trying to maintain his moderate, maverick image.
“If John McCain doesn’t stop changing his position on the issues, he threatens to make John Kerry look like an amateur. [..]
“So here’s the question. How clear is it where John McCain stands on the issues?”
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: When the history of the 2008 election is written, the main theme will be the tragic fall of John “Maverick” McCain who sacrificed every honorable principle he ever had at the altar of rabid and unappreciative Republican base,alienating everyone outside of that shrinking group in the process. Oh yea, that and America electing it’s first African-American President.
(C&L)
http://tinyurl.com/5wmaat
****
G'nite!
Jack Cafferty’s 4 o’clock question Wednesday dealt with the interesting position John McCain finds himself in while he tries to play both sides of the fence on literally every issue in an attempt to secure the support of the dwindling GOP base, while at the same time trying to maintain his moderate, maverick image.
“If John McCain doesn’t stop changing his position on the issues, he threatens to make John Kerry look like an amateur. [..]
“So here’s the question. How clear is it where John McCain stands on the issues?”
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: When the history of the 2008 election is written, the main theme will be the tragic fall of John “Maverick” McCain who sacrificed every honorable principle he ever had at the altar of rabid and unappreciative Republican base,alienating everyone outside of that shrinking group in the process. Oh yea, that and America electing it’s first African-American President.
(C&L)
http://tinyurl.com/5wmaat
****
G'nite!
Comment by Raine on 06/19/2008 03:24:24
Raine on 06/19/2008 03:24:24
I came, I read I must go. I have a bloggy to write for the morning.
c you all in the AM! (capt: nice links btw... ) ]
Good nite loverlies!
(carry on, all the girls seem to be out of the room now )
:boobs2:
c you all in the AM!
(capt: nice links btw... ) ]Good nite loverlies!
(carry on, all the girls seem to be out of the room now
) :boobs2:
Comment by livingonli on 06/19/2008 03:25:10
livingonli on 06/19/2008 03:25:10
Good nite capt. See you at Steph time.