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Author: Raine    Date: 03/02/2015 14:10:14

I support Israel, I do not support its Prime Minister. I support my country, I do not support the leader of the House.

Going behind the administration the way the Speaker did is unconscionable. I have no problem with any Prime Minister of a country in good standing with the United states addressing Congress. That includes Israel.

I have a problem with using our electoral body to try to influence another country's elections. This has nothing to do with our relationship with Israel and everything to do with politics.

Having said that, take a look at this.
“Susan Rice has a blind spot: Genocide,” said the ad appearing in Saturday’s New York Times, touting a talk on Iran this week in Washington hosted by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, the New Jersey-based author and pro-Israel advocate.

As soon as the Sabbath ended, Jewish groups rushed to condemn the ad. The American Jewish Committee called it “revolting,” the Anti-Defamation League called it “spurious and perverse”, the Jewish Federations of North America called it “outrageous” and Josh Block, the president of The Israel Project, said it was “entirely inappropriate.”

Marshall Wittmann, the spokesman for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which will host Rice on Monday at its annual conference, said, “Ad hominem attacks should have no place in our discourse.”
The image of the ad is at the link.

The politics of this are horrendous. The organization that put this ad out is lead by Shmuley Boteach. This article is from 2012.
And now he’s a Republican congressional candidate who will soon reap the gains from a $500,000 Super PAC donation from Sheldon and Miriam Adelson. He tells me that lessons learned in a country that survived genocide work both “microcosmically” and “macrocosmically.”

“When you live for yourself,” he says, “I think your economy corrodes. When you live with a greater sense of purpose, I think you do really well. The United States when it had far higher defense expenditures, during the Cold War, had a far more robust economy for the most part. It stood for something. I think we need to regain that. That’s why I went to Rwanda.”

This is all about not just politics but about pushing forward a right wing agenda. In 2013 Addelson and Mr. Boteach called for the United States to drop a nuclear weapon on Iran if they didn't comply with "western demands".
Adelson is also the publisher of Israel’s widest-read newspaper, the free Israel Hayom daily, which critics say takes a blatantly pro-Netanyahu line.

When it came to Israel, Adelson, a personal friend of the prime minister, and Stephens deviated slightly. While Adelson said Netanyahu “would not live without taking some kind of action under the threat of harm to the Jewish people or the State of Israel,” Stephens claimed he is “all hat and no cattle.”

Negotiators from Iran and six world powers, known as the P5+1, are due to meet in Geneva for a round of talks on November 7-8, the second round of talks in as many months.
Has it finally reached a head? I sadly don't believe so, but many people are speaking out against the ad:
A senior administration official at the White House cited criticism from a number of Jewish advocacy groups in reaction to the ad, saying it has been met with "revulsion."

"This ad is being widely met with the revulsion that it deserves. Frankly, the ad says more about those who supported it than it says about Susan Rice," the official told CNN.

The administration official declined to elaborate on those comments or to provide an on-the-record defense of Rice.

The Anti-Defamation League called the ad "perverse and incendiary."

"Has Boteach helped the pro-Israel community, which, presumably, was the object of the exercise? Absolutely not. To the contrary, he has made our collective task more difficult," the American Jewish Committee said.


I find it all quite repulsive.
 

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Comment by wickedpam on 03/02/2015 14:27:06
Morning

How's Oma doing?

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 14:28:54
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

How's Oma doing?

She maintaining. I have been given the ok to not be ready to jump in the truck at a moments notice.

She's still very sick, but her blood pressure has risen slightly (it was REALLY REALLY low) and she has started speaking in German here and there.



Comment by wickedpam on 03/02/2015 14:30:48
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

How's Oma doing?

She maintaining. I have been given the ok to not be ready to jump in the truck at a moments notice.

She's still very sick, but her blood pressure has risen slightly (it was REALLY REALLY low) and she has started speaking in German here and there.




Good to here

Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/02/2015 14:32:50
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

How's Oma doing?

She maintaining. I have been given the ok to not be ready to jump in the truck at a moments notice.

She's still very sick, but her blood pressure has risen slightly (it was REALLY REALLY low) and she has started speaking in German here and there.




Good to here



Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/02/2015 14:34:47
I'm really hoping for a massive walkout during Bibi's war chant.

Though I fear too many Democrats don't have the spine for it.

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 14:48:01
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I'm really hoping for a massive walkout during Bibi's war chant.

Though I fear too many Democrats don't have the spine for it.

Senator Tim Kaine will not be attending.

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 14:51:59
Sounds like Senator Barbara Mikulski will be announcing her retirement.

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 14:59:10
Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/02/2015 15:12:31
Quote by Raine:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I'm really hoping for a massive walkout during Bibi's war chant.

Though I fear too many Democrats don't have the spine for it.

Senator Tim Kaine will not be attending.

I heard rumors that if seats were not filled that "friendlies" would be brought in by GOP/AIPAC to occupy the seats. Any truth to that?


Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/02/2015 15:23:29
Why am I not surprised.

Lumber Liquidators sourcing flooring from China with formaldehyde levels above limits.

The flooring of the Board of Directors homes should be ripped out and replaced with this crap. Maybe a couple of huge piles of ground up flooring in the corners of each room for good measure.

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 15:26:41
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I'm really hoping for a massive walkout during Bibi's war chant.

Though I fear too many Democrats don't have the spine for it.

Senator Tim Kaine will not be attending.

I heard rumors that if seats were not filled that "friendlies" would be brought in by GOP/AIPAC to occupy the seats. Any truth to that?
Today Boehner said that there is overwhelming requests to fill those seats, I;m going to go with yes.

This entire thing is just disgusting.. Did anyone bother to see the actual add that was placed in the NYT?




Comment by Scoopster on 03/02/2015 15:28:49
Mornin all...

Was up until after 1AM watching House of Cards, and I still didn't finish.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/02/2015 15:31:13
Quote by Raine:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I'm really hoping for a massive walkout during Bibi's war chant.

Though I fear too many Democrats don't have the spine for it.

Senator Tim Kaine will not be attending.

I heard rumors that if seats were not filled that "friendlies" would be brought in by GOP/AIPAC to occupy the seats. Any truth to that?
Today Boehner said that there is overwhelming requests to fill those seats, I;m going to go with yes.

This entire thing is just disgusting.. Did anyone bother to see the actual add that was placed in the NYT?



Haven't seen the ad.

So it sounds like not attending really won't help much. There needs to be a walkout.

Or lots of shouts of "You Lie"

That would be acceptable.

Comment by BobR on 03/02/2015 15:42:34
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin all...

Was up until after 1AM watching House of Cards, and I still didn't finish.

I can only watch so much of that in one sitting - it is a very dark show with no sympathetic characters - other than the bit players that get trampled underfoot

Comment by Scoopster on 03/02/2015 15:45:37
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin all...

Was up until after 1AM watching House of Cards, and I still didn't finish.

I can only watch so much of that in one sitting - it is a very dark show with no sympathetic characters - other than the bit players that get trampled underfoot

I dunno, I have to say this season was quite different. I felt like all of the darker characters (yes, even Frank) deserved some sympathy in these new eps. That's all I'm gonna say, cuz if I say more it'll spoil stuff.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/02/2015 15:49:55
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Why am I not surprised.

Lumber Liquidators sourcing flooring from China with formaldehyde levels above limits.

The flooring of the Board of Directors homes should be ripped out and replaced with this crap. Maybe a couple of huge piles of ground up flooring in the corners of each room for good measure.



People still watch "60 Minutes?"

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 16:01:57
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin all...

Was up until after 1AM watching House of Cards, and I still didn't finish.

I can only watch so much of that in one sitting - it is a very dark show with no sympathetic characters - other than the bit players that get trampled underfoot

I dunno, I have to say this season was quite different. I felt like all of the darker characters (yes, even Frank) deserved some sympathy in these new eps. That's all I'm gonna say, cuz if I say more it'll spoil stuff.
That's good to know. We watched two eps, and as good as the show is, my soul was totally drained.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/02/2015 16:07:53
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin all...

Was up until after 1AM watching House of Cards, and I still didn't finish.

I can only watch so much of that in one sitting - it is a very dark show with no sympathetic characters - other than the bit players that get trampled underfoot

I dunno, I have to say this season was quite different. I felt like all of the darker characters (yes, even Frank) deserved some sympathy in these new eps. That's all I'm gonna say, cuz if I say more it'll spoil stuff.
That's good to know. We watched two eps, and as good as the show is, my soul was totally drained.



I was kind of waiting for everyone to binge before I jumped in. Even then at most I can do is 3 epis at a time then I have to walk away.

Comment by TriSec on 03/02/2015 16:51:47
Yeah, well, we found out who River Song was last night. And I still don't like Matt Smith.



Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 16:58:15
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin all...

Was up until after 1AM watching House of Cards, and I still didn't finish.

I can only watch so much of that in one sitting - it is a very dark show with no sympathetic characters - other than the bit players that get trampled underfoot

I dunno, I have to say this season was quite different. I felt like all of the darker characters (yes, even Frank) deserved some sympathy in these new eps. That's all I'm gonna say, cuz if I say more it'll spoil stuff.
That's good to know. We watched two eps, and as good as the show is, my soul was totally drained.



I was kind of waiting for everyone to binge before I jumped in. Even then at most I can do is 3 epis at a time then I have to walk away.
I really like the show, I just can't binge it.



Comment by wickedpam on 03/02/2015 16:59:47
Quote by TriSec:
Yeah, well, we found out who River Song was last night. And I still don't like Matt Smith.



You didn't know who River Song was?

Matt Smith is not my fave but I kinda like him better then Capaldi.


Comment by TriSec on 03/02/2015 17:59:21
No spoilers- haven't been reading too much of the backstory, intentionally.

Comment by livingonli on 03/02/2015 18:00:04
Good day, folks. I guess we won't see any Code Pinkers going in when Bibi speaks and accusing him of genocide. Although, Palestine is proceeding to go through the International Court to investigate war crimes during the Gaza attacks last year.

Comment by BobR on 03/02/2015 18:31:17
I decided to take a walk around the Capitol building at lunch. There was a woman there struggling with some sort of protest display - she had an Israeli flag, a Gadsden flag, and an upside-down American flag. The wind was creating havoc with them.

Oh yeah - she was also wearing an Uncle Sam hat.

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 18:55:40
Quote by BobR:
I decided to take a walk around the Capitol building at lunch. There was a woman there struggling with some sort of protest display - she had an Israeli flag, a Gadsden flag, and an upside-down American flag. The wind was creating havoc with them.

Oh yeah - she was also wearing an Uncle Sam hat.

I wish you had gotten a picture.


Comment by Scoopster on 03/02/2015 19:29:48

As if there weren't already myriad reasons to avoid this drivel.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/02/2015 20:05:37



Now they're just driving a fun thing into the ground.

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 20:09:50
Quote by wickedpam:



Now they're just driving a fun thing into the ground.
I think they are seriously trolling RWNJ's at thins point.

Just watch the outrage!


Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 20:36:20
EXCELLENT OMA NEWS!!!!


She has opened her eyes and was brought to the dining room to eat today! Her blood sugar is a little Low ( which is fine as it is easier to raise it than lower it.) Her BP is a little bit higher (not continuously dropping and not back to normal, it may never be)

She is taking her meds easily and is breathing more and more on her own. They are using the Oxygen less and less. She's even back to speaking a little english here and there.

My mom (remember we all have dark humor running thru our veins) asked her: Mom, Are you you dead? and

Oma replied:

Yes, liebchen. and a smal smile from Oma. That's a good sign that her humor is coming back.

One day at a time, but it appears Oma isn't leaving us just quite yet.

Thank you all so much for you prayers and good thoughts.

Comment by Raine on 03/02/2015 20:58:14
Quote by Scoopster:

As if there weren't already myriad reasons to avoid this drivel.

Aww, come on, take a look at more of the cast!
Joining the ranks of Bill Pullman, Jeff Bridges, Michael Douglas, Kevin Kline, Harrison Ford, and more as great movie Presidents is a dude from that show Shark Tank, who happens to own the Dallas Mavericks. His Veep will be that conservative commentator who really hates soccer.

Other recently announced casting, first reported by The Hollywood Reporter, includes: Bo Derek as star Tara Reid's mother; Jerry Springer as a "manic tourist;" 'N SYNC's Chris Kirkpatrick as a lifeguard; and finally, wrestler Chris Jericho as a roller coaster ride operator. OK, then.


Comment by Mondobubba on 03/02/2015 21:32:29
Quote by Raine:
EXCELLENT OMA NEWS!!!!


She has opened her eyes and was brought to the dining room to eat today! Her blood sugar is a little Low ( which is fine as it is easier to raise it than lower it.) Her BP is a little bit higher (not continuously dropping and not back to normal, it may never be)

She is taking her meds easily and is breathing more and more on her own. They are using the Oxygen less and less. She's even back to speaking a little english here and there.

My mom (remember we all have dark humor running thru our veins) asked her: Mom, Are you you dead? and

Oma replied:

Yes, liebchen. and a smal smile from Oma. That's a good sign that her humor is coming back.

One day at a time, but it appears Oma isn't leaving us just quite yet.

Thank you all so much for you prayers and good thoughts.



Oma rocks!

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/02/2015 21:34:17
Comment by BobR on 03/02/2015 21:38:21

and of course - the comments are great.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/02/2015 22:22:04
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
EXCELLENT OMA NEWS!!!!


She has opened her eyes and was brought to the dining room to eat today! Her blood sugar is a little Low ( which is fine as it is easier to raise it than lower it.) Her BP is a little bit higher (not continuously dropping and not back to normal, it may never be)

She is taking her meds easily and is breathing more and more on her own. They are using the Oxygen less and less. She's even back to speaking a little english here and there.

My mom (remember we all have dark humor running thru our veins) asked her: Mom, Are you you dead? and

Oma replied:

Yes, liebchen. and a smal smile from Oma. That's a good sign that her humor is coming back.

One day at a time, but it appears Oma isn't leaving us just quite yet.

Thank you all so much for you prayers and good thoughts.



Oma rocks!


woohoo


Comment by livingonli on 03/02/2015 23:31:07
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
EXCELLENT OMA NEWS!!!!


She has opened her eyes and was brought to the dining room to eat today! Her blood sugar is a little Low ( which is fine as it is easier to raise it than lower it.) Her BP is a little bit higher (not continuously dropping and not back to normal, it may never be)

She is taking her meds easily and is breathing more and more on her own. They are using the Oxygen less and less. She's even back to speaking a little english here and there.

My mom (remember we all have dark humor running thru our veins) asked her: Mom, Are you you dead? and

Oma replied:

Yes, liebchen. and a smal smile from Oma. That's a good sign that her humor is coming back.

One day at a time, but it appears Oma isn't leaving us just quite yet.

Thank you all so much for you prayers and good thoughts.



Oma rocks!


woohoo

At least there's some good news.