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The Ugliness of the McCampaign
Author: BobR
Date: 06/25/2008 12:19:39
With the conventions still two months away, the campaign season is already in full swing. Both candidates have vowed to run a clean campaign. Whether they will remains to be seen; whether they have is open for interpretation. For the groups and high-profile individuals who support the candidates, it's business as usual. Here's a sampling of some of the less savory items out there...
First up we have Laura Ingraham on FAUX News. I was at a place that had the TV tuned to that wretched station and the sound turned down. I saw this graphic on the screen:
I didn't need to hear the audio to know what she was trying to do. Actually, that may be the intent of those that design the graphics for FAUX News. They know that their show may be on TVs and bars and gyms where the sound is not turned up. A patron's quick glance would capture the picture of Kim Jong Il and the words "Obama Supporter", and that would be imprinted on their subconscious.
Next up we have our favorite religious nutjob the Rev. Dobson, saying that Obama is distorting the Bible and pushing a "fruitcake interpretation" of the Constitution:
So the Old Testament doesn't apply anymore, Mr. Dobson? Does that include what the Old Testament says about gays? I don't remember Jesus saying anything about dietary codes, but I do remember him saying things about helping those less fortunate and not being judgemental. Frederick Clarkson has a very good take on Dobson's credibility, re: religious and Constitutional interpretation.
Moving on, author David Freddoso - responsible for the smearboat book "Unfit for Command" which attacked John Kerry - is releasing a book with a similar intention aimed at Obama called "The Case Against Barack Obama":
As I questioned previously on the 4F message forum, will he be doing a book providing similar scrutiny of McCain?... Don't we deserve the same "clear and honest view" of him as well?... I'm not holding my breath for that.
So let us compare and contrast... In the news yesterday was Tran Trong Duyet, the man who actually held John McCain captive during the Viet Nam war. He claims that McCain wasn't tortured while under his care, and that he actually liked McCain, they struck up a friendship, and he supports McCain for president. Will we see that splashed in a graphic in the MSM? I doubt it.
His comments raise the question was John McCain really tortured (beyond the initial 3 or 4 days)? If not, why did he release so many tapes critical of the west? That question has been asked in an online column by Douglas Valentine:
This column raises some questions and makes some pointed commentary. Those that support McCain would have a fair argument that it's a smear because there is little hard evidence. The comments by Mr. Duyet, however would certainly seem to corroborate some of it, if you think he's believable. Still - this isn't coming from a major religious leader, a major news network, or a best-selling author.
That - I think - makes all the difference.
First up we have Laura Ingraham on FAUX News. I was at a place that had the TV tuned to that wretched station and the sound turned down. I saw this graphic on the screen:
I didn't need to hear the audio to know what she was trying to do. Actually, that may be the intent of those that design the graphics for FAUX News. They know that their show may be on TVs and bars and gyms where the sound is not turned up. A patron's quick glance would capture the picture of Kim Jong Il and the words "Obama Supporter", and that would be imprinted on their subconscious.
Next up we have our favorite religious nutjob the Rev. Dobson, saying that Obama is distorting the Bible and pushing a "fruitcake interpretation" of the Constitution:
"Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools?" Obama said. "Would we go with James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's?" referring to the civil rights leader.
Dobson took aim at examples Obama cited in asking which Biblical passages should guide public policy — chapters like Leviticus, which Obama said suggests slavery is OK and eating shellfish is an abomination, or Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, "a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application."
"Folks haven't been reading their Bibles," Obama said.
Dobson and Minnery accused Obama of wrongly equating Old Testament texts and dietary codes that no longer apply to Jesus' teachings in the New Testament.
So the Old Testament doesn't apply anymore, Mr. Dobson? Does that include what the Old Testament says about gays? I don't remember Jesus saying anything about dietary codes, but I do remember him saying things about helping those less fortunate and not being judgemental. Frederick Clarkson has a very good take on Dobson's credibility, re: religious and Constitutional interpretation.
Moving on, author David Freddoso - responsible for the smearboat book "Unfit for Command" which attacked John Kerry - is releasing a book with a similar intention aimed at Obama called "The Case Against Barack Obama":
Conservative journalist David Freddoso’s “The Case Against Barack Obama” will offer “a comprehensive, factual look at Obama,” according to Regnery Publishing president and publisher Marjory Ross.
But the book’s subtitle makes clear its perspective: “The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate.”
Ross contends that the mainstream media has offered insufficient scrutiny of Obama and likens the goal of Freddoso’s book to that of “Unfit for Command,” the scathing assessment of Kerry’s war record that rocketed to No. 1 on The New York Times best-seller list.
By highlighting negative aspects of Obama’s record and background, Ross says, Freddoso may compel others to offer more critical coverage of the Democratic nominee.
“I think it’s critically important that the country gets a clear and honest view of who is running and what they stand for — warts and all,” Ross says. “With ‘Unfit for Command,’ like ‘The Case against Barack Obama,’ we believe the media has whitewashed the candidate.”
As I questioned previously on the 4F message forum, will he be doing a book providing similar scrutiny of McCain?... Don't we deserve the same "clear and honest view" of him as well?... I'm not holding my breath for that.
So let us compare and contrast... In the news yesterday was Tran Trong Duyet, the man who actually held John McCain captive during the Viet Nam war. He claims that McCain wasn't tortured while under his care, and that he actually liked McCain, they struck up a friendship, and he supports McCain for president. Will we see that splashed in a graphic in the MSM? I doubt it.
His comments raise the question was John McCain really tortured (beyond the initial 3 or 4 days)? If not, why did he release so many tapes critical of the west? That question has been asked in an online column by Douglas Valentine:
McCain, in his carefully prepared statements, claims he was tortured while in solitary confinement, and that is why he signed a confession saying, “I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the doctors.”
However, on March 25, 1999, two of his fellow POWs, Ted Guy and Gordon "Swede" Larson told the Phoenix New Times that, while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it.
As Larson said, "My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted's knowledge, he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the camp that people were released from."
This column raises some questions and makes some pointed commentary. Those that support McCain would have a fair argument that it's a smear because there is little hard evidence. The comments by Mr. Duyet, however would certainly seem to corroborate some of it, if you think he's believable. Still - this isn't coming from a major religious leader, a major news network, or a best-selling author.
That - I think - makes all the difference.
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Comment by 
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 12:37:01
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 12:37:01
Excellent Post BobR,
I think that McSame's campaign will be about as clean as a fast food dumpster at closing time (groooosssss :P). I just wish the MSM would tackle a few of these descrepencies that you've pointed out and investigate them with the same vigor they have reserved for the Obama/Muslim/Madrasa stories. BTB, I added a new post over on my blog talking abit about the politicization of the DOJ. More fun and games :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
I think that McSame's campaign will be about as clean as a fast food dumpster at closing time (groooosssss :P). I just wish the MSM would tackle a few of these descrepencies that you've pointed out and investigate them with the same vigor they have reserved for the Obama/Muslim/Madrasa stories. BTB, I added a new post over on my blog talking abit about the politicization of the DOJ. More fun and games :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 12:40:45
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 12:40:45
I don't usually wish physical harm on another person.. but there are a few exceptions to the rule. I've now added Laura Ingraham to the list - If I ever meet her, imma punch her right in her grill.
But I digress.. hey look storm pics from yesterday!
And a bonus prize goes to the person who can name this historical baseball field:
But I digress.. hey look storm pics from yesterday!
And a bonus prize goes to the person who can name this historical baseball field:
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:20:41
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:20:41
Someone get the bloggie some coffee STAT! :coffee:
Comment by 
BobR on 06/25/2008 13:21:50
BobR on 06/25/2008 13:21:50
woah Scoop - that second picture has "tornado" written all over it...
Comment by 
Raine on 06/25/2008 13:26:08
Raine on 06/25/2008 13:26:08
Good morning.
Wow, scoop. those pictures are stunning.
Wow, scoop. those pictures are stunning.
Comment by 
Random on 06/25/2008 13:27:04
Random on 06/25/2008 13:27:04
Random has returned.
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/25/2008 13:29:28
TriSec on 06/25/2008 13:29:28
Morning, folks! Your Loyal TriSec got some of the same weather as Scoop yesterday. (no photos, though.) Fenway Park, too...they showed some footage later in the game.
I was standing outside watching the squall line come up....it was actually stunning to see how quickly it was moving. Had to run around and close all the windows, too...at one point it was almost like a hose was squirting through the windows. Yeesh.
I was standing outside watching the squall line come up....it was actually stunning to see how quickly it was moving. Had to run around and close all the windows, too...at one point it was almost like a hose was squirting through the windows. Yeesh.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:37:39
I seriously thought we were gonna get some twisting action from the last set of storms that came through about 6-6:30 last night.. I had a good view of 'em 'cause I went with the folks from work to a social function in Providence - had 18th floor view of the clouds and it was a-mazing. Wish I had a camera with me so I coulda taken some shots of my own. (these are from the local news channel's blog)
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:37:39
Quote by BobR:
woah Scoop - that second picture has "tornado" written all over it...
I seriously thought we were gonna get some twisting action from the last set of storms that came through about 6-6:30 last night.. I had a good view of 'em 'cause I went with the folks from work to a social function in Providence - had 18th floor view of the clouds and it was a-mazing. Wish I had a camera with me so I coulda taken some shots of my own. (these are from the local news channel's blog)
Comment by 
starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:38:06
starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:38:06
Morning Y'all!
Scoop! Those pictures are insane!
My cat, Farley, has developed a stank eye ------->
Not sure what that's aboot! :shrug:
Scoop! Those pictures are insane!
My cat, Farley, has developed a stank eye ------->
Not sure what that's aboot! :shrug:
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:38:59
Wait Scoop! Are you still in CT?
starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:38:59
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:
woah Scoop - that second picture has "tornado" written all over it...
I seriously thought we were gonna get some twisting action from the last set of storms that came through about 6-6:30 last night.. I had a good view of 'em 'cause I went with the folks from work to a social function in Providence - had 18th floor view of the clouds and it was a-mazing. Wish I had a camera with me so I coulda taken some shots of my own. (these are from the local news channel's blog)
Wait Scoop! Are you still in CT?
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:43:27
Nope I'm back in RI.. was just visiting mom in Hartford this past weekend.
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:43:27
Quote by starling310:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:
woah Scoop - that second picture has "tornado" written all over it...
I seriously thought we were gonna get some twisting action from the last set of storms that came through about 6-6:30 last night.. I had a good view of 'em 'cause I went with the folks from work to a social function in Providence - had 18th floor view of the clouds and it was a-mazing. Wish I had a camera with me so I coulda taken some shots of my own. (these are from the local news channel's blog)
Wait Scoop! Are you still in CT?
Nope I'm back in RI.. was just visiting mom in Hartford this past weekend.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 13:45:51
Raine on 06/25/2008 13:45:51
Uh oh. BobDylan is one of Obama's fave musician's, whatever will Momma do!
ME, I swooning over the fact that he has Blood on the tracks in his Ipod! Obama has great taste in Music! :clap:
ME, I swooning over the fact that he has Blood on the tracks in his Ipod! Obama has great taste in Music! :clap:
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 13:47:56
I didn't realize how nasty those storms were. I am glad you and scoop were alright! whew.
Raine on 06/25/2008 13:47:56
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, folks! Your Loyal TriSec got some of the same weather as Scoop yesterday. (no photos, though.) Fenway Park, too...they showed some footage later in the game.
I was standing outside watching the squall line come up....it was actually stunning to see how quickly it was moving. Had to run around and close all the windows, too...at one point it was almost like a hose was squirting through the windows. Yeesh.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 13:48:43
Welcome back Random!
Raine on 06/25/2008 13:48:43
Quote by Random:
Random has returned.
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:48:43
starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:48:43
Speaking of taking something awful and turning it into something positive. . .
This show, The Exonerated just came to my area. I missed the opportunity to see it, but a good friend went and said it was amazing!!
It's about people that were mistakenly committed of crimes and spent time in prison for it. . . one guy was in prison 18 years based on an Eyewitness account. Scary stuff.
They had talk backs after the show and statistics were given that the United States believes 5% of people in Prison are innocent. The woman said it probably was more around 10%, because of course the Government would down play it, and that equates to about 50,000 people. . . innocently convicted and serving time.
This show, The Exonerated just came to my area. I missed the opportunity to see it, but a good friend went and said it was amazing!!
It's about people that were mistakenly committed of crimes and spent time in prison for it. . . one guy was in prison 18 years based on an Eyewitness account. Scary stuff.
They had talk backs after the show and statistics were given that the United States believes 5% of people in Prison are innocent. The woman said it probably was more around 10%, because of course the Government would down play it, and that equates to about 50,000 people. . . innocently convicted and serving time.
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:50:40
I was a'wonderin' because i didn't see any storms close to that!
starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:50:40
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by starling310:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by BobR:
woah Scoop - that second picture has "tornado" written all over it...
I seriously thought we were gonna get some twisting action from the last set of storms that came through about 6-6:30 last night.. I had a good view of 'em 'cause I went with the folks from work to a social function in Providence - had 18th floor view of the clouds and it was a-mazing. Wish I had a camera with me so I coulda taken some shots of my own. (these are from the local news channel's blog)
Wait Scoop! Are you still in CT?
Nope I'm back in RI.. was just visiting mom in Hartford this past weekend.
I was a'wonderin' because i didn't see any storms close to that!
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:51:24
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 13:51:24
Heh.. this stuff had the native Rhodies running for cover!
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 13:53:26
TriSec on 06/25/2008 13:53:26
Regarding the Sermon on the Mount, do you think Sen. Obama might be referring to the passage noted in Matthew 7:1-6?
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 13:54:14
Random on 06/25/2008 13:54:14
I like Dr. Who...
(This is a Random Comment)
(This is a Random Comment)
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:58:25
You hear that?
It's Harry Reid's back bone growing.
starling310 on 06/25/2008 13:58:25
Quote by Raine:
Now this is strange. Harry Reid will not support FISA.
You hear that?
It's Harry Reid's back bone growing.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 14:07:10
Mornin' Starling,
Last year we had an exonerated ex-death row inmate come to talk to the law school where I work - it was a powerful presentation. I hope it inspired at least a few law students to plan to work for inmates' rights when they finish school. Not much money in that type of work, but the rewards of giving somebody their life back has got to be tremendous :)
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 14:07:10
Quote by starling310:
Speaking of taking something awful and turning it into something positive. . .
This show, The Exonerated just came to my area. I missed the opportunity to see it, but a good friend went and said it was amazing!!
It's about people that were mistakenly committed of crimes and spent time in prison for it. . . one guy was in prison 18 years based on an Eyewitness account. Scary stuff.
They had talk backs after the show and statistics were given that the United States believes 5% of people in Prison are innocent. The woman said it probably was more around 10%, because of course the Government would down play it, and that equates to about 50,000 people. . . innocently convicted and serving time.
Mornin' Starling,
Last year we had an exonerated ex-death row inmate come to talk to the law school where I work - it was a powerful presentation. I hope it inspired at least a few law students to plan to work for inmates' rights when they finish school. Not much money in that type of work, but the rewards of giving somebody their life back has got to be tremendous :)
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:07:19
Me too - even though I've only see the 9th and 10th Doctors.
Morning all :hug:
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:07:19
Quote by Random:
I like Dr. Who...
(This is a Random Comment)
Me too - even though I've only see the 9th and 10th Doctors.
Morning all :hug:
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:09:07
Yes, one of the actual people, whose story you hear in the show, was there. It was amazing how positive he was.
starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:09:07
Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Starling,
Last year we had an exonerated ex-death row inmate come to talk to the law school where I work - it was a powerful presentation. I hope it inspired at least a few law students to plan to work for inmates' rights when they finish school. Not much money in that type of work, but the rewards of giving somebody their life back has got to be tremendous :)
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Yes, one of the actual people, whose story you hear in the show, was there. It was amazing how positive he was.
Comment by 
clintster on 06/25/2008 14:10:06
clintster on 06/25/2008 14:10:06
A few corrections to the Fox Noise "K-to-tha-J" fact board up there. As we all know, his favorite food is a Zagnut bar, and the fun fact should probably reflect his love for the AMC Pacer or his pride in his Taipodong.
Oh, and I don't think he really gives a rat fart who is elected president.
Oh, and I don't think he really gives a rat fart who is elected president.
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 14:10:56
Tennant is great (Random love 10th doctor)
That beside, i listen to an audio book. The doctor telling Rose not to pay attention to the Ontological paradox...
Random on 06/25/2008 14:10:56
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
I like Dr. Who...
(This is a Random Comment)
Me too - even though I've only see the 9th and 10th Doctors.
Morning all :hug:
Tennant is great (Random love 10th doctor)
That beside, i listen to an audio book. The doctor telling Rose not to pay attention to the Ontological paradox...
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:13:01
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:13:01
The senate confirms FEC nominees.
Mason, the recess appointment by B*sh, the one who warned McCain for breaking FEC laws was removed by the pResident. Interestiing, huh?
Mason, the recess appointment by B*sh, the one who warned McCain for breaking FEC laws was removed by the pResident. Interestiing, huh?
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 14:17:16
wow.
There's an office of The Innocence Project just down the street from us...
BobR on 06/25/2008 14:17:16
Quote by starling310:
Speaking of taking something awful and turning it into something positive. . .
This show, The Exonerated just came to my area. I missed the opportunity to see it, but a good friend went and said it was amazing!!
It's about people that were mistakenly committed of crimes and spent time in prison for it. . . one guy was in prison 18 years based on an Eyewitness account. Scary stuff.
They had talk backs after the show and statistics were given that the United States believes 5% of people in Prison are innocent. The woman said it probably was more around 10%, because of course the Government would down play it, and that equates to about 50,000 people. . . innocently convicted and serving time.
wow.
There's an office of The Innocence Project just down the street from us...
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:19:54
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:19:54
Breaking news: The supreme court rejected the Death Penalty for Child Rape.
5-4
Waiting for the ruling on the Valdeze/Exxon case.
5-4
Waiting for the ruling on the Valdeze/Exxon case.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:20:24
I like Tennet but I really liked Eccelston he had a good snarky and dark attitude.
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:20:24
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
I like Dr. Who...
(This is a Random Comment)
Me too - even though I've only see the 9th and 10th Doctors.
Morning all :hug:
Tennant is great (Random love 10th doctor)
That beside, i listen to an audio book. The doctor telling Rose not to pay attention to the Ontological paradox...
I like Tennet but I really liked Eccelston he had a good snarky and dark attitude.
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:20:26
I hope you never need to go see them!!!
They started as 2 lawyers, working out of a shoebox, in their spare time. But, they got so many letters from people saying they were innocent, that they eventually got sponsors and were able to quit their jobs and work on the cases full time. . . pretty amazing.
starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:20:26
Quote by BobR:
wow.
There's an office of The Innocence Project just down the street from us...
I hope you never need to go see them!!!
They started as 2 lawyers, working out of a shoebox, in their spare time. But, they got so many letters from people saying they were innocent, that they eventually got sponsors and were able to quit their jobs and work on the cases full time. . . pretty amazing.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 14:20:41
Either that or he doesn't want to go against the REAL power base in the Senate...
BobR on 06/25/2008 14:20:41
Quote by starling310:
You hear that?
It's Harry Reid's back bone growing.
Either that or he doesn't want to go against the REAL power base in the Senate...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:22:15
Have they ruled on the DC Hand gun case yet?
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:22:15
Quote by Raine:
Breaking news: The supreme court rejected the Death Penalty for Child Rape.
5-4
Waiting for the ruling on the Valdeze/Exxon case.
Have they ruled on the DC Hand gun case yet?
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/25/2008 14:22:28
livingonli on 06/25/2008 14:22:28
Good morning all.
I had a really rough night last night. On the way home from work, I am heading on the parkway and I see two lights barreling at such speed that I thought I was going to get rear-ended. I go to the right lane to avoid the oncoming vehicle and the next thing I hear is a thud on the passenger side of my car and I see a motorcycle flying off onto the grass. I pull over, call 911 and someone else must have called also because the police, fire and ambulances came pretty fast. They took the two people on the motorcycle to the hospital for injuries. While talking to the police and state troopers apparently the two lights I saw behind me were motorcycles and one of them was the one that sideswiped my car after I changed lanes to avoid the two motorcycles. And after all that I had to have the tow truck jump my car battery since I left my car lights on while I had been pulled over.
I finally got home at 2:30 and just felt really bummed out and I'm supposed to be in at noon today to do overtime. It just feels like my luck continues to suck. I just hope the two people are OK but the police say based on witness reports that the accident is their fault for going too fast.
I had a really rough night last night. On the way home from work, I am heading on the parkway and I see two lights barreling at such speed that I thought I was going to get rear-ended. I go to the right lane to avoid the oncoming vehicle and the next thing I hear is a thud on the passenger side of my car and I see a motorcycle flying off onto the grass. I pull over, call 911 and someone else must have called also because the police, fire and ambulances came pretty fast. They took the two people on the motorcycle to the hospital for injuries. While talking to the police and state troopers apparently the two lights I saw behind me were motorcycles and one of them was the one that sideswiped my car after I changed lanes to avoid the two motorcycles. And after all that I had to have the tow truck jump my car battery since I left my car lights on while I had been pulled over.
I finally got home at 2:30 and just felt really bummed out and I'm supposed to be in at noon today to do overtime. It just feels like my luck continues to suck. I just hope the two people are OK but the police say based on witness reports that the accident is their fault for going too fast.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 14:25:43
oh man, that's tough. I agree with the cops that the motorcyclists were going too fast and shouldn't have passed you on the right without giving you a chance to move over. Don't beat yourself up over this. :hug:
Sorry about your car too. I hope there wasn't much damage. I'm guessing the motorcyclists don't carry collision insurance...
BobR on 06/25/2008 14:25:43
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning all.
I had a really rough night last night. On the way home from work, I am heading on the parkway and I see two lights barreling at such speed that I thought I was going to get rear-ended. I go to the right lane to avoid the oncoming vehicle and the next thing I hear is a thud on the passenger side of my car and I see a motorcycle flying off onto the grass. I pull over, call 911 and someone else must have called also because the police, fire and ambulances came pretty fast. They took the two people on the motorcycle to the hospital for injuries. While talking to the police and state troopers apparently the two lights I saw behind me were motorcycles and one of them was the one that sideswiped my car after I changed lanes to avoid the two motorcycles. And after all that I had to have the tow truck jump my car battery since I left my car lights on while I had been pulled over.
I finally got home at 2:30 and just felt really bummed out and I'm supposed to be in at noon today to do overtime. It just feels like my luck continues to suck. I just hope the two people are OK but the police say based on witness reports that the accident is their fault for going too fast.
oh man, that's tough. I agree with the cops that the motorcyclists were going too fast and shouldn't have passed you on the right without giving you a chance to move over. Don't beat yourself up over this. :hug:
Sorry about your car too. I hope there wasn't much damage. I'm guessing the motorcyclists don't carry collision insurance...
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 14:26:40
I like Tennant Better. It helps that he's had three series to work out a character better. Eccelston was good.
I just like Tennant better because of...well his attitude and nature.
Random on 06/25/2008 14:26:40
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
I like Dr. Who...
(This is a Random Comment)
Me too - even though I've only see the 9th and 10th Doctors.
Morning all :hug:
Tennant is great (Random love 10th doctor)
That beside, i listen to an audio book. The doctor telling Rose not to pay attention to the Ontological paradox...
I like Tennet but I really liked Eccelston he had a good snarky and dark attitude.
I like Tennant Better. It helps that he's had three series to work out a character better. Eccelston was good.
I just like Tennant better because of...well his attitude and nature.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:26:41
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:26:41
From Scotusblog:
The Court has released the opinion in Exxon v. Baker (07-219), on the validity of the $2.5 billion punitive damages award to victims of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. The ruling below, which upheld the award, is vacated and remanded.
Justice Souter wrote the opinion. All Justices concurred in the judgment, except Justice Alito, who took no part. We will provide a link to the decision as soon as it is available.
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Also: In Exxon, the Court holds that the punitives are limited to $507.5 million.
In Exxon, the punitive damage ruling is 5-3.
The Court has released the opinion in Exxon v. Baker (07-219), on the validity of the $2.5 billion punitive damages award to victims of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. The ruling below, which upheld the award, is vacated and remanded.
Justice Souter wrote the opinion. All Justices concurred in the judgment, except Justice Alito, who took no part. We will provide a link to the decision as soon as it is available.
======================================================
Also: In Exxon, the Court holds that the punitives are limited to $507.5 million.
In Exxon, the punitive damage ruling is 5-3.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:32:03
From Scotus Blog: "The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that it is unconstitutional to impose the death penalty for the crime of raping a child, when the victim does not die and death was not intended. The ruling split the Court 5-4. The decision nullified a Louisiana law that provided capital punishment for raping a child under age 12. The law was since amended to apply to raping a child under age 13."
Looking for the DC handgun case. More to come on the Exxon case.
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:32:03
Quote by Raine:
Breaking news: The supreme court rejected the Death Penalty for Child Rape.
5-4
Waiting for the ruling on the Valdeze/Exxon case.
From Scotus Blog: "The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that it is unconstitutional to impose the death penalty for the crime of raping a child, when the victim does not die and death was not intended. The ruling split the Court 5-4. The decision nullified a Louisiana law that provided capital punishment for raping a child under age 12. The law was since amended to apply to raping a child under age 13."
Looking for the DC handgun case. More to come on the Exxon case.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 14:33:12
BobR on 06/25/2008 14:33:12
PETA upset because pigeons were shot at Wimbledon
Really?.... pigeons??...
This is why PETA has a hard time being taken seriously...
Really?.... pigeons??...
This is why PETA has a hard time being taken seriously...
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:33:22
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:33:22
From the AP:
The Supreme Court on Wednesday cut the $2.5 billion punitive damages award in the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster to $500 million.
The court ruled that victims of the worst oil spill in U.S. history may collect punitive damages from Exxon Mobil Corp., but not as much as a federal appeals court determined.
Justice David Souter wrote for the court that punitive damages may not exceed what the company already paid to compensate victims for economic losses, about $500 million compensation.
Exxon asked the high court to reject the punitive damages judgment, saying it already has spent $3.4 billion in response to the accident that fouled 1,200 miles of Alaska coastline.
A jury decided Exxon should pay $5 billion in punitive damages. A federal appeals court cut that verdict in half.
The Supreme Court on Wednesday cut the $2.5 billion punitive damages award in the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster to $500 million.
The court ruled that victims of the worst oil spill in U.S. history may collect punitive damages from Exxon Mobil Corp., but not as much as a federal appeals court determined.
Justice David Souter wrote for the court that punitive damages may not exceed what the company already paid to compensate victims for economic losses, about $500 million compensation.
Exxon asked the high court to reject the punitive damages judgment, saying it already has spent $3.4 billion in response to the accident that fouled 1,200 miles of Alaska coastline.
A jury decided Exxon should pay $5 billion in punitive damages. A federal appeals court cut that verdict in half.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 14:35:52
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 14:35:52
Ya know.. given the pro-corporate bend that both parties have had for many, many years now I'm not surprised by that ruling.
I am quite appaled though. :boom:
I am quite appaled though. :boom:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:36:23
Oh my God Liv!
:hug:
The police and Bob are right, it sounds like the people who were passing on the right were at fault.
There is no such thing as good or bad luck, darling, sometimes life just sucks it happens to everyone so you're no alone. You have to get through the down times and that makes the goods so much more special.
*picks Liv up from his spot on the dirt road of life and dusts the dirt off*
Your okay. You have no control of what those people did, you can miss them the best of health but do not beat yourself up over it. Get out of the house, garden, mow the lawn, read, go to the movies, keep yourself busy. It's going to be fine. :hug:
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:36:23
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning all.
I had a really rough night last night. On the way home from work, I am heading on the parkway and I see two lights barreling at such speed that I thought I was going to get rear-ended. I go to the right lane to avoid the oncoming vehicle and the next thing I hear is a thud on the passenger side of my car and I see a motorcycle flying off onto the grass. I pull over, call 911 and someone else must have called also because the police, fire and ambulances came pretty fast. They took the two people on the motorcycle to the hospital for injuries. While talking to the police and state troopers apparently the two lights I saw behind me were motorcycles and one of them was the one that sideswiped my car after I changed lanes to avoid the two motorcycles. And after all that I had to have the tow truck jump my car battery since I left my car lights on while I had been pulled over.
I finally got home at 2:30 and just felt really bummed out and I'm supposed to be in at noon today to do overtime. It just feels like my luck continues to suck. I just hope the two people are OK but the police say based on witness reports that the accident is their fault for going too fast.
Oh my God Liv!
:hug:The police and Bob are right, it sounds like the people who were passing on the right were at fault.
There is no such thing as good or bad luck, darling, sometimes life just sucks it happens to everyone so you're no alone. You have to get through the down times and that makes the goods so much more special.
*picks Liv up from his spot on the dirt road of life and dusts the dirt off*
Your okay. You have no control of what those people did, you can miss them the best of health but do not beat yourself up over it. Get out of the house, garden, mow the lawn, read, go to the movies, keep yourself busy. It's going to be fine. :hug:
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:38:51
Holy crap, Liv. What Bob said.
you must have been terrified.
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:38:51
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning all.
I had a really rough night last night. On the way home from work, I am heading on the parkway and I see two lights barreling at such speed that I thought I was going to get rear-ended. I go to the right lane to avoid the oncoming vehicle and the next thing I hear is a thud on the passenger side of my car and I see a motorcycle flying off onto the grass. I pull over, call 911 and someone else must have called also because the police, fire and ambulances came pretty fast. They took the two people on the motorcycle to the hospital for injuries. While talking to the police and state troopers apparently the two lights I saw behind me were motorcycles and one of them was the one that sideswiped my car after I changed lanes to avoid the two motorcycles. And after all that I had to have the tow truck jump my car battery since I left my car lights on while I had been pulled over.
I finally got home at 2:30 and just felt really bummed out and I'm supposed to be in at noon today to do overtime. It just feels like my luck continues to suck. I just hope the two people are OK but the police say based on witness reports that the accident is their fault for going too fast.
oh man, that's tough. I agree with the cops that the motorcyclists were going too fast and shouldn't have passed you on the right without giving you a chance to move over. Don't beat yourself up over this. :hug:
Sorry about your car too. I hope there wasn't much damage. I'm guessing the motorcyclists don't carry collision insurance...
you must have been terrified.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 14:42:03
huh?? :huh:
If I thought that's what actual damages were for. Punitive damages are supposed to be like fines - a monetary penalty in leiu of locking the entire company up in jail.
BobR on 06/25/2008 14:42:03
Quote by Raine:
From the AP:
Justice David Souter wrote for the court that punitive damages may not exceed what the company already paid to compensate victims for economic losses, about $500 million compensation.
huh?? :huh:
If I thought that's what actual damages were for. Punitive damages are supposed to be like fines - a monetary penalty in leiu of locking the entire company up in jail.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:42:15
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:42:15
It looks like SCOTUS will be giving the ruling on the Gun case tomorrow.
Tomorrow, the Court will issue its remaining three decisions: Heller (DC Guns), Davis v. FEC (campaign finance), and American Electric Power (energy contracts).
===================
As Tom previously mentioned, it is quite likely that Justice Scalia is writing the majority opinion in the Guns case and that Justice Alito is writing the opinion in the election case, Davis v. FEC. The author of American Electric Power is harder to predict.
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Clarification: while it appears that Justice Scalia has the principle opinion in the Guns case, it is not necessarily a majority opinion. It could be a plurality opinion.
Tomorrow, the Court will issue its remaining three decisions: Heller (DC Guns), Davis v. FEC (campaign finance), and American Electric Power (energy contracts).
===================
As Tom previously mentioned, it is quite likely that Justice Scalia is writing the majority opinion in the Guns case and that Justice Alito is writing the opinion in the election case, Davis v. FEC. The author of American Electric Power is harder to predict.
==========-========
Clarification: while it appears that Justice Scalia has the principle opinion in the Guns case, it is not necessarily a majority opinion. It could be a plurality opinion.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 14:42:48
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 14:42:48
Holy shit livin.. here's hoping those folks weren't seriously injured, and that they smarten up a bit speed-wise.
Back around 2000 I had a short stint as a taxi driver - and I had two incidents with people on bicycles running into my cab.....deliberately, for insurance money. Even knowing that fact I didn't feel very good after either incident.. bit of a shell shock. Hang in there man.
Back around 2000 I had a short stint as a taxi driver - and I had two incidents with people on bicycles running into my cab.....deliberately, for insurance money. Even knowing that fact I didn't feel very good after either incident.. bit of a shell shock. Hang in there man.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 14:43:57
BobR on 06/25/2008 14:43:57
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 14:45:23
Gosh Livin,
I'm glad that you are okay - how's your car? Don't beat yourself up over this - IT WAS NOT YOUR FAULT - it seems that the motorcylclist were asking for an accident as they were clearly speeding. Take good care today - you are a hero in my book :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: :heart:
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 14:45:23
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning all.
I had a really rough night last night. On the way home from work, I am heading on the parkway and I see two lights barreling at such speed that I thought I was going to get rear-ended. I go to the right lane to avoid the oncoming vehicle and the next thing I hear is a thud on the passenger side of my car and I see a motorcycle flying off onto the grass. I pull over, call 911 and someone else must have called also because the police, fire and ambulances came pretty fast. They took the two people on the motorcycle to the hospital for injuries. While talking to the police and state troopers apparently the two lights I saw behind me were motorcycles and one of them was the one that sideswiped my car after I changed lanes to avoid the two motorcycles. And after all that I had to have the tow truck jump my car battery since I left my car lights on while I had been pulled over.
I finally got home at 2:30 and just felt really bummed out and I'm supposed to be in at noon today to do overtime. It just feels like my luck continues to suck. I just hope the two people are OK but the police say based on witness reports that the accident is their fault for going too fast.
Gosh Livin,
I'm glad that you are okay - how's your car? Don't beat yourself up over this - IT WAS NOT YOUR FAULT - it seems that the motorcylclist were asking for an accident as they were clearly speeding. Take good care today - you are a hero in my book :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: :heart:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:47:12
Why do I get the sinking feeling that they are gonna let handguns back onto DC streets?
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:47:12
Quote by Raine:
It looks like SCOTUS will be giving the ruling on the Gun case tomorrow.
Tomorrow, the Court will issue its remaining three decisions: Heller (DC Guns), Davis v. FEC (campaign finance), and American Electric Power (energy contracts).
===================
As Tom previously mentioned, it is quite likely that Justice Scalia is writing the majority opinion in the Guns case and that Justice Alito is writing the opinion in the election case, Davis v. FEC. The author of American Electric Power is harder to predict.
==========-========
Clarification: while it appears that Justice Scalia has the principle opinion in the Guns case, it is not necessarily a majority opinion. It could be a plurality opinion.
Why do I get the sinking feeling that they are gonna let handguns back onto DC streets?
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:47:19
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:47:19
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 14:48:05
BobR on 06/25/2008 14:48:05
These Tanya Roberts / Tahiti Village commercials annoy me to no end. First of all, Tanya Roberts is a "designer" for the resort? In what way? What did she "design"?
Second - this is a timeshare "resort", and if they're giving away a free weekend, it comes with strings attached, namely - you'll have to sit through at least one very hard-sell presentation.
Third - I looked at the location of the place on a map. It's at the very end of strip next to the interstate. Woo-freakin'-hoo...
Second - this is a timeshare "resort", and if they're giving away a free weekend, it comes with strings attached, namely - you'll have to sit through at least one very hard-sell presentation.
Third - I looked at the location of the place on a map. It's at the very end of strip next to the interstate. Woo-freakin'-hoo...
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:48:20
Pigeons aren't animals? :shrug:
starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:48:20
Quote by BobR:
PETA upset because pigeons were shot at Wimbledon
Really?.... pigeons??...
This is why PETA has a hard time being taken seriously...
Pigeons aren't animals? :shrug:
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:49:08
HA! I was just thinking that!!! Tonya Roberts.
starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:49:08
Quote by BobR:
These Tanya Roberts / Tahiti Village commercials annoy me to no end. First of all, Tanya Roberts is a "designer" for the resort? In what way? What did she "design"?
Second - this is a timeshare "resort", and if they're giving away a free weekend, it comes with strings attached, namely - you'll have to sit through at least one very hard-sell presentation.
Third - I looked at the location of the place on a map. It's at the very end of strip next to the interstate. Woo-freakin'-hoo...
HA! I was just thinking that!!! Tonya Roberts.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 14:49:45
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 14:49:45
:banana: Wooo 
1club.fm's new wave channel! 
Now Playing The Safety Dance! :banana:
1club.fm's new wave channel! Now Playing The Safety Dance! :banana:
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 14:51:06
Random on 06/25/2008 14:51:06
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 14:55:07
It's right up there with Infomercials where washed up performers go to salvage what's left of their careers.
And at the far end of the strip. Not the most convenient place, probably can't even get to the monorail to get around unlike places located more closely on the strip.
livingonli on 06/25/2008 14:55:07
Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:
These Tanya Roberts / Tahiti Village commercials annoy me to no end. First of all, Tanya Roberts is a "designer" for the resort? In what way? What did she "design"?
Second - this is a timeshare "resort", and if they're giving away a free weekend, it comes with strings attached, namely - you'll have to sit through at least one very hard-sell presentation.
Third - I looked at the location of the place on a map. It's at the very end of strip next to the interstate. Woo-freakin'-hoo...
HA! I was just thinking that!!! Tonya Roberts.
It's right up there with Infomercials where washed up performers go to salvage what's left of their careers.
And at the far end of the strip. Not the most convenient place, probably can't even get to the monorail to get around unlike places located more closely on the strip.
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:56:44
starling310 on 06/25/2008 14:56:44
Oh Faye...you better make up the guest bedroom.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 14:56:48
Raine on 06/25/2008 14:56:48
Shout out for FAYE!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:56:52
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 14:56:52
Faye shout out!
It's 3.91 here.
It's 3.91 here.
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 14:57:38
TriSec on 06/25/2008 14:57:38
Damn, I go to a meeting and hell breaks loose!
Easy, Liv. Take one of these. :martini:
You were doing the right thing, and the fact that the cops told you at the scene that it wasn't your fault will exonerate you. Just breathe deep, and go do something in NYC that makes you happy. But take the subway!
Easy, Liv. Take one of these. :martini:
You were doing the right thing, and the fact that the cops told you at the scene that it wasn't your fault will exonerate you. Just breathe deep, and go do something in NYC that makes you happy. But take the subway!
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 14:58:48
livingonli on 06/25/2008 14:58:48
BTW, thanks for the wishes everyone.
I do feel bad about the injuries I think it's just the way I am.
The car has side damage. Some of the exterior tore off on the passenger side and I lost my passenger side rear-view mirror . It will be interesting to see what the insurance company says when they look at it. Considering the age of my car, I wonder if they will rule it out as a total loss. The only consolation for that is it would give me a down payment on another car although the best I could afford possibly is another used car.
I do feel bad about the injuries I think it's just the way I am.
The car has side damage. Some of the exterior tore off on the passenger side and I lost my passenger side rear-view mirror . It will be interesting to see what the insurance company says when they look at it. Considering the age of my car, I wonder if they will rule it out as a total loss. The only consolation for that is it would give me a down payment on another car although the best I could afford possibly is another used car.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 14:58:50
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 14:58:50
Come on over ya'll and buy some cheap gas - I saw gas for $3.69 on my way to work this morning. I've got a guest room :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 15:00:50
If Momma and the mooks come to visit, we want pictures.
livingonli on 06/25/2008 15:00:50
Quote by m-hadley:
Come on over ya'll and buy some cheap gas - I saw gas for $3.69 on my way to work this morning. I've got a guest room :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
If Momma and the mooks come to visit, we want pictures.
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:04:12
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:04:12
*snort*
Has everyone else been seeing those "Optic 1050" binocular ads around? I'm wondering who the shill is there; he sure does look familiar to me.
In any case, I peeked online...they're ordinary 10x50 binoculars, and at least one purchaser called them "crap with plastic lenses". Of course they're only $29.99...
And I wonder where they get that "1,000% magnification" out of a 10x binoc.
Has everyone else been seeing those "Optic 1050" binocular ads around? I'm wondering who the shill is there; he sure does look familiar to me.
In any case, I peeked online...they're ordinary 10x50 binoculars, and at least one purchaser called them "crap with plastic lenses". Of course they're only $29.99...
And I wonder where they get that "1,000% magnification" out of a 10x binoc.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:08:30
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:08:30
A**wipes. all of them.
The White House in December refused to accept the Environmental Protection Agency’s conclusion that greenhouse gases are pollutants that must be controlled, telling agency officials that an e-mail message containing the document would not be opened, senior E.P.A. officials said last week.
The document, which ended up in e-mail limbo, without official status, was the E.P.A.’s answer to a 2007 Supreme Court ruling that required it to determine whether greenhouse gases represent a danger to health or the environment, the officials said.
The White House in December refused to accept the Environmental Protection Agency’s conclusion that greenhouse gases are pollutants that must be controlled, telling agency officials that an e-mail message containing the document would not be opened, senior E.P.A. officials said last week.
The document, which ended up in e-mail limbo, without official status, was the E.P.A.’s answer to a 2007 Supreme Court ruling that required it to determine whether greenhouse gases represent a danger to health or the environment, the officials said.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:08:37
Well if that does happen look as an opportunity to get another fuel effiecnt vehicle that's only a couple of years old. Ya know the great thing about used cars - it doesn't deprciate as soon as you drive it off the lot.
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:08:37
Quote by livingonli:
BTW, thanks for the wishes everyone.
I do feel bad about the injuries I think it's just the way I am.
The car has side damage. Some of the exterior tore off on the passenger side and I lost my passenger side rear-view mirror . It will be interesting to see what the insurance company says when they look at it. Considering the age of my car, I wonder if they will rule it out as a total loss. The only consolation for that is it would give me a down payment on another car although the best I could afford possibly is another used car.
Well if that does happen look as an opportunity to get another fuel effiecnt vehicle that's only a couple of years old. Ya know the great thing about used cars - it doesn't deprciate as soon as you drive it off the lot.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:09:40
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:09:40
Very cute DJ
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:10:10
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:10:10
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:11:42
Come on out ya'll...
My guest room is the one room in my house that is always ready and waiting for company - it is so nicely appointed in screamin' seventies pastel floral wallpaper and grandiose drapes, but is has a bunk bed with the lower bunk a double and the upper bunk a twin size bed and there is a pull out twin matress under the lower bunk. So I figure there's room for four (but no sex sitting up on the lower bunk
).
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:11:42
Quote by starling310:
Oh Faye...you better make up the guest bedroom.
Come on out ya'll...
My guest room is the one room in my house that is always ready and waiting for company - it is so nicely appointed in screamin' seventies pastel floral wallpaper and grandiose drapes, but is has a bunk bed with the lower bunk a double and the upper bunk a twin size bed and there is a pull out twin matress under the lower bunk. So I figure there's room for four (but no sex sitting up on the lower bunk
).Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:11:43
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:11:43
Nap-oleon 
:p
:p
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:16:56
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:16:56
And in light of the fact that the WH isn't even bothering to read emails, it makes this prospect all the more frightening.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 06/25/2008 15:17:49
Will in Chicago on 06/25/2008 15:17:49
Good morning, bloggers!!
Livingonli, I am glad that you are okay. Just try to relax.
I will be here for a while, and I will be offline until Thursday afternoon/evening.
The early edition of the UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Livingonli, I am glad that you are okay. Just try to relax.
I will be here for a while, and I will be offline until Thursday afternoon/evening.
The early edition of the UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/25/2008 15:18:48
Will in Chicago on 06/25/2008 15:18:48
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:18:59
the lower bunk is ok tho??? :D
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:18:59
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:
Oh Faye...you better make up the guest bedroom.
Come on out ya'll...
My guest room is the one room in my house that is always ready and waiting for company - it is so nicely appointed in screamin' seventies pastel floral wallpaper and grandiose drapes, but is has a bunk bed with the lower bunk a double and the upper bunk a twin size bed and there is a pull out twin matress under the lower bunk. So I figure there's room for four (but no sex sitting up on the lower bunk
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:19:30
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:19:30
The legendary (now defunct) gay bar in this city was called the "Boston RamRod"
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:20:50
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:20:50
We have a a gay country music club right down the road that used to be called *HoeDowns* it went under a management change and it's now called... *Three Legged Cowboy*
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 15:21:09
That's an old photo, still elicits a smile...
BobR on 06/25/2008 15:21:09
Quote by Random:
Haven't read the story...but the picute...The picture...alone
That's an old photo, still elicits a smile...
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:21:38
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:21:38
I used to love Fire Island. it is total hedonism.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:24:24
Mala is right. There is no need to buy a new car these days...
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:24:24
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
BTW, thanks for the wishes everyone.
I do feel bad about the injuries I think it's just the way I am.
The car has side damage. Some of the exterior tore off on the passenger side and I lost my passenger side rear-view mirror . It will be interesting to see what the insurance company says when they look at it. Considering the age of my car, I wonder if they will rule it out as a total loss. The only consolation for that is it would give me a down payment on another car although the best I could afford possibly is another used car.
Well if that does happen look as an opportunity to get another fuel effiecnt vehicle that's only a couple of years old. Ya know the great thing about used cars - it doesn't deprciate as soon as you drive it off the lot.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 15:24:31
of course they are... but who cares?
They are essentially rats with wings... we eat their cousins the chickens. Hunting squab and quail is an "honored" tradition.
No one cares if a couple pigeons get clipped.
BobR on 06/25/2008 15:24:31
Quote by starling310:
Pigeons aren't animals? :shrug:
of course they are... but who cares?
They are essentially rats with wings... we eat their cousins the chickens. Hunting squab and quail is an "honored" tradition.
No one cares if a couple pigeons get clipped.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:26:20
to the best of my knowledge that photo has not been debunked as a photoshop fun.
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:26:20
Quote by Random:
Haven't read the story...but the picute...The picture...alone
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:27:04
Raine,
What you do on the top bunk or on the mattress on the floor is restricted only by your imagination There are no hidden cameras, either, just in case you were wondering... :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: :airhump:
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:27:04
Quote by Raine:the lower bunk is ok tho??? :DQuote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:
Oh Faye...you better make up the guest bedroom.
Come on out ya'll...
My guest room is the one room in my house that is always ready and waiting for company - it is so nicely appointed in screamin' seventies pastel floral wallpaper and grandiose drapes, but is has a bunk bed with the lower bunk a double and the upper bunk a twin size bed and there is a pull out twin matress under the lower bunk. So I figure there's room for four (but no sex sitting up on the lower bunk
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Raine,
What you do on the top bunk or on the mattress on the floor is restricted only by your imagination
There are no hidden cameras, either, just in case you were wondering... :DCheers,
mfaye
:hug: :airhump:
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 15:27:14
10 x 100% = 1000%
BobR on 06/25/2008 15:27:14
Quote by TriSec:
*snort*
Has everyone else been seeing those "Optic 1050" binocular ads around? I'm wondering who the shill is there; he sure does look familiar to me.
In any case, I peeked online...they're ordinary 10x50 binoculars, and at least one purchaser called them "crap with plastic lenses". Of course they're only $29.99...
And I wonder where they get that "1,000% magnification" out of a 10x binoc.
10 x 100% = 1000%
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:28:17
I have spent much time and effort chasing Mourning Doves away from my feeder...they are the epitome of a "large, gluttonous bird". Not to mention they are the dumbest birds alive.
I don't mind the Jays or the squirrels...
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:28:17
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
Pigeons aren't animals? :shrug:
of course they are... but who cares?
They are essentially rats with wings... we eat their cousins the chickens. Hunting squab and quail is an "honored" tradition.
No one cares if a couple pigeons get clipped.
I have spent much time and effort chasing Mourning Doves away from my feeder...they are the epitome of a "large, gluttonous bird". Not to mention they are the dumbest birds alive.
I don't mind the Jays or the squirrels...
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:29:41
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:29:41
HOLY crap! they ALL just threw momma under the bus!!! :rofl:
they ALL just threw momma under the bus!!! :rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 15:29:43
livingonli on 06/25/2008 15:29:43
Time to head off to the salt mine. Luckily with Progressive I can file my claim on-line and I gave them my cell number as the best to reach me at. Talk to y'all later. I don't even know if I'll have time to catch up with the Stephcast later.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:30:30
Speaking of things that give a smile - did anyone watch Wipeout last night? Am I the only one who was laughing like a 6 year old?
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:30:30
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Haven't read the story...but the picute...The picture...alone
That's an old photo, still elicits a smile...
Speaking of things that give a smile - did anyone watch Wipeout last night? Am I the only one who was laughing like a 6 year old?
Comment by starling310 on 06/25/2008 15:30:53
I kind of care.
But, that's just me.
starling310 on 06/25/2008 15:30:53
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
Pigeons aren't animals? :shrug:
of course they are... but who cares?
They are essentially rats with wings... we eat their cousins the chickens. Hunting squab and quail is an "honored" tradition.
No one cares if a couple pigeons get clipped.
I kind of care.
But, that's just me.
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:32:01
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:32:01
Ya know, Mrs. TriSec has a Master's Degree in Criminal Science....
You don't need the death penalty for a child rapist. Just put them in the general population in any penal facility, and that will take care of said rapist.
You don't need the death penalty for a child rapist. Just put them in the general population in any penal facility, and that will take care of said rapist.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:32:13
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:32:13
Note to Producer Chris -
By Stephanie's own admission, she doesn't have the good sense that God gave a raisin. Please act accordingly...
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
By Stephanie's own admission, she doesn't have the good sense that God gave a raisin. Please act accordingly...
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:32:38
No camera's? WEll forget it then...
:rofl:
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:32:38
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:the lower bunk is ok tho??? :DQuote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:
Oh Faye...you better make up the guest bedroom.
Come on out ya'll...
My guest room is the one room in my house that is always ready and waiting for company - it is so nicely appointed in screamin' seventies pastel floral wallpaper and grandiose drapes, but is has a bunk bed with the lower bunk a double and the upper bunk a twin size bed and there is a pull out twin matress under the lower bunk. So I figure there's room for four (but no sex sitting up on the lower bunk
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Raine,
What you do on the top bunk or on the mattress on the floor is restricted only by your imagination
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: :airhump:
:rofl:
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:33:20
I kind of wanted to see that, but it's on while I'm out playing music. Sounds like fun, then. I suppose if the ratings are any good, we'll see it 24/7 before too long...
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:33:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Speaking of things that give a smile - did anyone watch Wipeout last night? Am I the only one who was laughing like a 6 year old?
I kind of wanted to see that, but it's on while I'm out playing music. Sounds like fun, then. I suppose if the ratings are any good, we'll see it 24/7 before too long...
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:34:20
Bomar.
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:34:20
Quote by BobR:
10 x 100% = 1000%
Bomar.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 15:35:00
well - you and PETA...
I remember seeing pigeon on the menu at a Paris luncheonette. We joked with the guy that had the 'nads to order it that they were out front catching his lunch.
Sorry Miz Starling - the world is not going to miss a couple of nasty annoying pigeons.
BobR on 06/25/2008 15:35:00
Quote by starling310:
I kind of care.
But, that's just me.
well - you and PETA...
I remember seeing pigeon on the menu at a Paris luncheonette. We joked with the guy that had the 'nads to order it that they were out front catching his lunch.
Sorry Miz Starling - the world is not going to miss a couple of nasty annoying pigeons.
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:35:53
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:35:53
Caller....do you think that Bush, Dobson, evangelists, etc. are followers of Baal?
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:36:10
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:36:10
Can Ralph Nader PLEASE STFU???? Accuses Obama of *Talking White* and appealing to *White Guilt*
EH really needs to shut up. Enough. close the Pie Hole. he looks like a bitter nasty tweedy rumpled crazy old man.
EH really needs to shut up. Enough. close the Pie Hole. he looks like a bitter nasty tweedy rumpled crazy old man.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 15:36:13
???
BobR on 06/25/2008 15:36:13
Quote by TriSec:
Bomar.
???
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/25/2008 15:39:41
Will in Chicago on 06/25/2008 15:39:41
Hmm, so God talks to Bush every day. Based on Bush policies that have destabilized the world and brought suffering to humanity , perhaps the god that Bush talks to is .....
CTHULHU!!!
Remember, Cthulhu for President, why vote for the lesser of two evils?
CTHULHU!!!
Remember, Cthulhu for President, why vote for the lesser of two evils?
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:39:56
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:39:56
I suspect the BeeGee are hated as much as ABBA by half of this blog...
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:41:36
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:41:36
I like this This version if ICE ICE baby!
I do however see we have entered the songs sung in the wrong style ditch again...
I do however see we have entered the songs sung in the wrong style ditch again...
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:44:50
Raine,
You are welcome to bring your own cameras, whips, handcuffs, whipped cream, whatever you are into :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:44:50
Quote by Raine:No camera's? WEll forget it then...Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:the lower bunk is ok tho??? :DQuote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:
Oh Faye...you better make up the guest bedroom.
Come on out ya'll...
My guest room is the one room in my house that is always ready and waiting for company - it is so nicely appointed in screamin' seventies pastel floral wallpaper and grandiose drapes, but is has a bunk bed with the lower bunk a double and the upper bunk a twin size bed and there is a pull out twin matress under the lower bunk. So I figure there's room for four (but no sex sitting up on the lower bunk
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Raine,
What you do on the top bunk or on the mattress on the floor is restricted only by your imagination
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: :airhump:
:rofl:
Raine,
You are welcome to bring your own cameras, whips, handcuffs, whipped cream, whatever you are into :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:46:23
It's one of those shows where you know you shouldn't laugh but you do anyway. I swear I could not help myself when they spun these people around on something that looked like the old playground merry-go-round and they made them race across tipping platforms.
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:46:23
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
Speaking of things that give a smile - did anyone watch Wipeout last night? Am I the only one who was laughing like a 6 year old?
I kind of wanted to see that, but it's on while I'm out playing music. Sounds like fun, then. I suppose if the ratings are any good, we'll see it 24/7 before too long...
It's one of those shows where you know you shouldn't laugh but you do anyway. I swear I could not help myself when they spun these people around on something that looked like the old playground merry-go-round and they made them race across tipping platforms.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:47:16
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:47:16
Celine Covers AC/DC:
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:47:21
OMG, I hope not - the last episode of "Songs Done in the Wrong Style" almost keeeled my grrrl Rebekah - and I don't like one bit :bad:
Cheers,
mfaye
:D
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 15:47:21
Quote by Raine:
I like this This version if ICE ICE baby!
I do however see we have entered the songs sung in the wrong style ditch again...
OMG, I hope not - the last episode of "Songs Done in the Wrong Style" almost keeeled my grrrl Rebekah - and I don't like one bit :bad:
Cheers,
mfaye
:D
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:48:22
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:48:22
From Boston Online:
Bomah
Somebody who's wicked smaht; a Brain. At least in Saugus, that is. From the Bomar Brain, one of the first affordable calculators, which was made in Acton.
Bomah
Somebody who's wicked smaht; a Brain. At least in Saugus, that is. From the Bomar Brain, one of the first affordable calculators, which was made in Acton.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:48:56
Just be careful out there. :hug:
wickedpam on 06/25/2008 15:48:56
Quote by livingonli:
Time to head off to the salt mine. Luckily with Progressive I can file my claim on-line and I gave them my cell number as the best to reach me at. Talk to y'all later. I don't even know if I'll have time to catch up with the Stephcast later.
Just be careful out there. :hug:
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 15:51:53
You already know my opinion... :puke:
BobR on 06/25/2008 15:51:53
Quote by Raine:
I suspect the BeeGee are hated as much as ABBA by half of this blog...
You already know my opinion... :puke:
Comment by 
MMB on 06/25/2008 15:52:22
MMB on 06/25/2008 15:52:22
Livin, I am glad you were not hurt to badly. Everyone is right it's not your fault.Last July when Mondo and me were broadsided by a lady in a SUV his car was totaled but it all worked out of course this happened just before the Fl. meetup when we met Tri his wife and son and of course BobR and Raine i looked like someone had run over me where the seat belt yanked me back. Just watch for any unusual pains and stuff like that. The main thing is all things can be replaced but people can't so heres a good vibe for you. As well as the other people. 
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 15:52:35
B)
BobR on 06/25/2008 15:52:35
Quote by TriSec:
From Boston Online:
Bomah
Somebody who's wicked smaht; a Brain. At least in Saugus, that is. From the Bomar Brain, one of the first affordable calculators, which was made in Acton.
B)
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:55:48
TriSec on 06/25/2008 15:55:48
I find the B-Gs more tolerable that ABBA. I was disappointed that there was no mini Bee Gees, but I suppose that's only a matter of time.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 15:58:46
NOW it is!
Raine on 06/25/2008 15:58:46
Quote by TriSec:
I find the B-Gs more tolerable that ABBA. I was disappointed that there was no mini Bee Gees, but I suppose that's only a matter of time.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 16:00:34
I have to say that didn't suck. The band kept true to the music. Celine essentially sang it straight.
But who was the co-vocalist? That kind of pushed it over into cheese territory.
BobR on 06/25/2008 16:00:34
Quote by Raine:
Celine Covers AC/DC:
I have to say that didn't suck. The band kept true to the music. Celine essentially sang it straight.
But who was the co-vocalist? That kind of pushed it over into cheese territory.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 16:03:07
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 16:03:07
I thought that they did those mini-bands by just speeding up the recording ?!?!!??
Enlighten me, please. :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Enlighten me, please. :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 16:03:50
TriSec on 06/25/2008 16:03:50
Hmm, story on KPHX on oil futures dropping sharply today...
Has anyone else noticed that prices seem to have peaked for the moment? I have two stations around me with regular at $3.99, and the Hess in Watertown square has been selling it at $4.05 for the past 10 days or so...
Has anyone else noticed that prices seem to have peaked for the moment? I have two stations around me with regular at $3.99, and the Hess in Watertown square has been selling it at $4.05 for the past 10 days or so...
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 16:04:20
BobR on 06/25/2008 16:04:20
Jedi of the Caribbean:
(Thanks to Bob Harris...)
(Thanks to Bob Harris...)
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 16:05:40
I like the original Japanese version better.. but that's just me.
And wtf @ Celine Dion.. can we shoot her NOW?!!!!
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 16:05:40
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
Speaking of things that give a smile - did anyone watch Wipeout last night? Am I the only one who was laughing like a 6 year old?
I kind of wanted to see that, but it's on while I'm out playing music. Sounds like fun, then. I suppose if the ratings are any good, we'll see it 24/7 before too long...
I like the original Japanese version better.. but that's just me.
And wtf @ Celine Dion.. can we shoot her NOW?!!!!
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 16:07:54
They do.
However, there IS an actual tribute band called "Mini-KISS" that is comprised of midgets (or dwarves) and wear the makeup and costumes.
BobR on 06/25/2008 16:07:54
Quote by m-hadley:
I thought that they did those mini-bands by just speeding up the recording ?!?!!??
Enlighten me, please. :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
They do.
However, there IS an actual tribute band called "Mini-KISS" that is comprised of midgets (or dwarves) and wear the makeup and costumes.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 16:10:35
BobR on 06/25/2008 16:10:35
This is a hilarious site that will waste lots of your time. It takes a little time for all the graphs to load so be patient.
Here's a sample:
Here's a sample:
Comment by MMB on 06/25/2008 16:13:56
MMB on 06/25/2008 16:13:56
The Supreme Court has by a 5-4 vote decided that a Louisiana law that allows CHILD RAPIST to get the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment. How nice that the child that grows up in hell gets no choice. These scums of society do not care how horrible they leave a child feeling FOREVER we get a life sentence and some take their own life. I am sorry but i have no compassion for these pieces of SH**. Just my humble opinion. 
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 16:20:29
As TriSec mentioned previously, child molesters do not have a long life expectancy in prison, and their demise via "prison justice" will be more gruesome than what they would receive from the state.
BobR on 06/25/2008 16:20:29
Quote by MMB:
The Supreme Court has by a 5-4 vote decided that a Louisiana law that allows CHILD RAPIST to get the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment. How nice that the child that grows up in hell gets no choice. These scums of society do not care how horrible they leave a child feeling FOREVER we get a life sentence and some take their own life. I am sorry but i have no compassion for these pieces of SH**. Just my humble opinion.
As TriSec mentioned previously, child molesters do not have a long life expectancy in prison, and their demise via "prison justice" will be more gruesome than what they would receive from the state.
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 16:25:09
For the majority of inmates, someone who does something to children or is exceptionally cruel with animals is even out of bounds for them and the inmates that will make that person's life very brief if not unpleasant.
livingonli on 06/25/2008 16:25:09
Quote by BobR:Quote by MMB:
The Supreme Court has by a 5-4 vote decided that a Louisiana law that allows CHILD RAPIST to get the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment. How nice that the child that grows up in hell gets no choice. These scums of society do not care how horrible they leave a child feeling FOREVER we get a life sentence and some take their own life. I am sorry but i have no compassion for these pieces of SH**. Just my humble opinion.
As TriSec mentioned previously, child molesters do not have a long life expectancy in prison, and their demise via "prison justice" will be more gruesome than what they would receive from the state.
For the majority of inmates, someone who does something to children or is exceptionally cruel with animals is even out of bounds for them and the inmates that will make that person's life very brief if not unpleasant.
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 16:29:14
By me, regular gas is between $4.19 and $4.25 a gallon. The Citgo station by work dd drop the price of Diesel from $5.09 to $4.99.
livingonli on 06/25/2008 16:29:14
Quote by TriSec:
Hmm, story on KPHX on oil futures dropping sharply today...
Has anyone else noticed that prices seem to have peaked for the moment? I have two stations around me with regular at $3.99, and the Hess in Watertown square has been selling it at $4.05 for the past 10 days or so...
By me, regular gas is between $4.19 and $4.25 a gallon. The Citgo station by work dd drop the price of Diesel from $5.09 to $4.99.
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 16:31:36
capt on 06/25/2008 16:31:36
I quit believing in the death penalty.
One, a long life to regret misdeeds and two, what if? What if it turns out everybody was wrong? It was the wrong guy, everything looked bad, all the witnesses thought it was him. A faultless system would still never sanction institutional murder in any civilzed society.
It costs more than a life term in prison to put a prisoner to death and in the end it is state sponsored murder.
Check the "death cert" for any inmate put to death - it says homicide not "justice"
There is a different justice system inside a prison - most prisoners have wives, G-friends and or kids. They never want a rapist or molestor to get out and that makes some sense.
State sponsored murder should be reserved for only politicians and dictators that start wars.
One, a long life to regret misdeeds and two, what if? What if it turns out everybody was wrong? It was the wrong guy, everything looked bad, all the witnesses thought it was him. A faultless system would still never sanction institutional murder in any civilzed society.
It costs more than a life term in prison to put a prisoner to death and in the end it is state sponsored murder.
Check the "death cert" for any inmate put to death - it says homicide not "justice"
There is a different justice system inside a prison - most prisoners have wives, G-friends and or kids. They never want a rapist or molestor to get out and that makes some sense.
State sponsored murder should be reserved for only politicians and dictators that start wars.
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 16:34:47
capt on 06/25/2008 16:34:47
I wonder if I could keep my principles if I was faced with some criminal that had caused me , my friends or family great harm or death?
I have never been tested on that. Lucky me.
I have never been tested on that. Lucky me.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 16:43:18
Me as well, capt. I ahve come to believe that justice woul be best served in removing someof these people forever from society.
If I do not believe in killing, then that would have to included the death penalty. In the end the financial costs for killing a person have been proven time and time again is more than putting a person in jail for the rest of thier natural life, and like I said what good comes of it? I myself have thankfully never been tested, but I don't like seeing state sanctioned murder. I am against it.
Raine on 06/25/2008 16:43:18
Quote by capt:
I wonder if I could keep my principles if I was faced with some criminal that had caused me , my friends or family great harm or death?
I have never been tested on that. Lucky me.
If I do not believe in killing, then that would have to included the death penalty. In the end the financial costs for killing a person have been proven time and time again is more than putting a person in jail for the rest of thier natural life, and like I said what good comes of it? I myself have thankfully never been tested, but I don't like seeing state sanctioned murder. I am against it.
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 16:58:41
The thing that changed my mind - more than anything else - I watched a show about some murderer A**hole - killed a few people. Long story short, This lady, the mother of her only daughter - murdered. Her husband has passed away too. She made a passionate plea to the judge to SPARE the murderers life!
(it almost makes me well up even now)
She said she didn't want a death to be associated with her or her dead daughter, that she didn't live that way. That she suffered such a great and permanent loss of her only child - she didn't want the mother of the murderer to suffer that way.
OMG - no BS religiosity or some kind of better than thou stuff yet no forgiveness. The strength of this lady and the truth her words spoke was amazing. This lady knew the real value of life and that it really means so much more than revenge even if that revenge is righteous and justified.
That stupid TV show changed the way I think forever.
capt on 06/25/2008 16:58:41
Quote by Raine:Me as well, capt. I ahve come to believe that justice woul be best served in removing someof these people forever from society.Quote by capt:
I wonder if I could keep my principles if I was faced with some criminal that had caused me , my friends or family great harm or death?
I have never been tested on that. Lucky me.
If I do not believe in killing, then that would have to included the death penalty. In the end the financial costs for killing a person have been proven time and time again is more than putting a person in jail for the rest of thier natural life, and like I said what good comes of it? I myself have thankfully never been tested, but I don't like seeing state sanctioned murder. I am against it.
The thing that changed my mind - more than anything else - I watched a show about some murderer A**hole - killed a few people. Long story short, This lady, the mother of her only daughter - murdered. Her husband has passed away too. She made a passionate plea to the judge to SPARE the murderers life!
(it almost makes me well up even now)
She said she didn't want a death to be associated with her or her dead daughter, that she didn't live that way. That she suffered such a great and permanent loss of her only child - she didn't want the mother of the murderer to suffer that way.
OMG - no BS religiosity or some kind of better than thou stuff yet no forgiveness. The strength of this lady and the truth her words spoke was amazing. This lady knew the real value of life and that it really means so much more than revenge even if that revenge is righteous and justified.
That stupid TV show changed the way I think forever.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 17:02:54
Anastacia.
Raine on 06/25/2008 17:02:54
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Celine Covers AC/DC:
I have to say that didn't suck. The band kept true to the music. Celine essentially sang it straight.
But who was the co-vocalist? That kind of pushed it over into cheese territory.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/25/2008 17:13:09
I just hate you and your gas prices. I paid $4.43 the other day, which has been the price for the last week or so. Howevah, prior to this, the price shot up almost $.40 in two weeks, so it's no f-ing honeymoon.
I can't blog with you people, because you're bastard people.
:D
IzzyBitz on 06/25/2008 17:13:09
I just hate you and your gas prices. I paid $4.43 the other day, which has been the price for the last week or so. Howevah, prior to this, the price shot up almost $.40 in two weeks, so it's no f-ing honeymoon.I can't blog with you people, because you're bastard people.
:D
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 17:13:48
capt on 06/25/2008 17:13:48
Check this out:
Barack Obama's Cover on Rolling Stone.
Nice cover shot but scroll down and check out the slide-show
Barack Obama's Cover on Rolling Stone.
Nice cover shot but scroll down and check out the slide-show
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 17:14:54
capt on 06/25/2008 17:14:54
We're locked in at #3.899 for reg. Been there for a time now . .
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 17:22:30
capt on 06/25/2008 17:22:30
McCain says only World War III would justify draft
It seems like he really doesn't want to be president. I think even John McCain will actually end up voting for Barack as the best hope for America?
It seems like he really doesn't want to be president. I think even John McCain will actually end up voting for Barack as the best hope for America?
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/25/2008 17:24:35
IzzyBitz on 06/25/2008 17:24:35
p.s. The Californian view of the United States is quite accurate, although I don't find many of the people in Eastern Canada to be overly awesome. 
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 17:29:44
Like Chimpy, he will probably continue to use Blackwater and mercenaries to do the dirty work.,
livingonli on 06/25/2008 17:29:44
Quote by capt:
McCain says only World War III would justify draft
It seems like he really doesn't want to be president. I think even John McCain will actually end up voting for Barack as the best hope for America?
Like Chimpy, he will probably continue to use Blackwater and mercenaries to do the dirty work.,
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 17:37:58
As in from the good ol' days on Unfiltered with Rachel, Lizz & Chuck?!?!
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 17:37:58
Quote by Raine:Anastacia.Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Celine Covers AC/DC:
I have to say that didn't suck. The band kept true to the music. Celine essentially sang it straight.
But who was the co-vocalist? That kind of pushed it over into cheese territory.
As in from the good ol' days on Unfiltered with Rachel, Lizz & Chuck?!?!
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 17:41:42
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 17:41:42
Gas prices here have dropped a teenie bit.. down in the past week from $4.10 to $4.05 near my house.
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 17:42:24
That was Ambrosia.
livingonli on 06/25/2008 17:42:24
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
Anastacia.
As in from the good ol' days on Unfiltered with Rachel, Lizz & Chuck?!?!
That was Ambrosia.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 17:45:54
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 17:45:54
Comment by m-hadley on 06/25/2008 18:03:51
Izzy,
Where do you live? Not trying to be nosy, I'm just wondering. Cheap gas is one thang, livin' in Oklahoma is another thang altogether :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
m-hadley on 06/25/2008 18:03:51
Quote by IzzyBitz:
I can't blog with you people, because you're bastard people.
:D
Izzy,
Where do you live? Not trying to be nosy, I'm just wondering. Cheap gas is one thang, livin' in Oklahoma is another thang altogether :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 18:15:01
:rofl:
BobR on 06/25/2008 18:15:01
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 18:27:08
:rofl:
Raine on 06/25/2008 18:27:08
Quote by IzzyBitz:
I can't blog with you people, because you're bastard people.
:D
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 18:33:31
TriSec on 06/25/2008 18:33:31
It's crack, I tellya!
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 18:43:22
McCain counts among his luck charms a Hotel room in New hampshire and a penny
Raine on 06/25/2008 18:43:22
Quote by Raine:
This is cool.
McCain counts among his luck charms a Hotel room in New hampshire and a penny
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 18:45:06
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 18:45:06
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 18:47:14
Raine on 06/25/2008 18:47:14
Obama must be hindu... :P
Seriously, this is a very cool story.
Seriously, this is a very cool story.
With Democrat senator Barack Obama busy in the run-up to the US presidential polls, a group of well-wishers in the capital have decided to send him a symbol of his lucky charm, Lord Hanuman, to help him emerge victorious.
Obama's representative Carolyn Sauvage-Mar on Tuesday received a gold-plated two-feet-high idol which she will pass it on to the Obama after it is sanctified.
The idol is being presented to Obama as he is reported to be a Lord Hanuman devotee and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms.
Comment by clintster on 06/25/2008 18:49:16
Bob, could you put my previous lame-o attempt in the memory hole?
clintster on 06/25/2008 18:49:16
Bob, could you put my previous lame-o attempt in the memory hole?
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 18:52:07
Obama carries a monkey god?... don't let the right-wing find out about that!
BobR on 06/25/2008 18:52:07
Quote by Raine:
This is cool.
Obama carries a monkey god?... don't let the right-wing find out about that!
Comment by Scoopster on 06/25/2008 19:00:04
Or Matt Damon for that matter..
Scoopster on 06/25/2008 19:00:04
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
This is cool.
Obama carries a monkey god?... don't let the right-wing find out about that!
Or Matt Damon for that matter..
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 19:08:38
TriSec on 06/25/2008 19:08:38
Hmm....I don't have a good-luck charm per se.
When I can find it, I'll carry my "Do a good turn daily" coin.
When I can find it, I'll carry my "Do a good turn daily" coin.
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 19:10:08
"tiny Madonna and child." Would that be a mini-Madonna (fast and high pitched?)
capt on 06/25/2008 19:10:08
Quote by Raine:
This is cool.
"tiny Madonna and child." Would that be a mini-Madonna (fast and high pitched?)
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 19:13:35
BobR on 06/25/2008 19:13:35
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:16:49
What about his lucky horseshoe and the metal he stole from the Kaiser? He had to chase the Kaiser all the way back to Berlin for it.
livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:16:49
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
This is cool.
What about his lucky horseshoe and the metal he stole from the Kaiser? He had to chase the Kaiser all the way back to Berlin for it.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 19:19:06
Likeavirgin - touchedfortheveryfirsttime.... :: chipmonks ::
BobR on 06/25/2008 19:19:06
Quote by capt:
"tiny Madonna and child." Would that be a mini-Madonna (fast and high pitched?)
Likeavirgin - touchedfortheveryfirsttime.... :: chipmonks ::
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:22:21
livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:22:21
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 19:24:24
Thanks, now I have to find something to get rid of this earworm!
capt on 06/25/2008 19:24:24
Quote by BobR:Quote by capt:
"tiny Madonna and child." Would that be a mini-Madonna (fast and high pitched?)
Likeavirgin - touchedfortheveryfirsttime.... :: chipmonks ::
Thanks, now I have to find something to get rid of this earworm!
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:25:06
livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:25:06
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:26:56
livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:26:56
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:28:50
livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:28:50
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:32:34
livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:32:34
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 19:32:48
Raine on 06/25/2008 19:32:48
the GOP set to scale back aggressive Anti Voter fraud campaigns.
Why you ask? not because it is bad for america, but becuase it was counter productive to the party, politically. How 'effin noble.
Why you ask? not because it is bad for america, but becuase it was counter productive to the party, politically. How 'effin noble.
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:36:41
livingonli on 06/25/2008 19:36:41
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 19:43:55
TriSec on 06/25/2008 19:43:55
Let's give a big blog shout-out to Bob of Atlanta, for singlehandedly affecting the productivity of 4F members this afternoon.
4F Member Productivity:
Before Bob XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
After Bob XXX
:shrug:
4F Member Productivity:
Before Bob XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
After Bob XXX
:shrug:
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 19:50:42
capt on 06/25/2008 19:50:42
The graphs are HIGH-Larry-ous!!!
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 19:50:48
Raine on 06/25/2008 19:50:48
I officially hate you BobR.
:hug:
:hug:
Comment by TriSec on 06/25/2008 20:01:19
TriSec on 06/25/2008 20:01:19
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 20:01:53
capt on 06/25/2008 20:01:53
85-cent E85 coming to Massachussetts on Thursday
I should have started driving there a day or two ago . . .
I should have started driving there a day or two ago . . .
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 20:04:31
:( :kickcan:
BobR on 06/25/2008 20:04:31
Quote by Raine:
I officially hate you BobR.
:hug:
:( :kickcan:
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 20:06:39
BobR on 06/25/2008 20:06:39
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 20:17:50
capt on 06/25/2008 20:17:50
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 20:19:57
BobR on 06/25/2008 20:19:57
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 20:29:09
capt on 06/25/2008 20:29:09
From Juan Cole - Pepe Escobar
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 20:30:09
BobR on 06/25/2008 20:30:09
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 21:12:14
livingonli on 06/25/2008 21:12:14
It looks like Friday is when the insurance company is sending an assessor to look at my car. So, I'll find out then what it costs to fix and whether or not it will be totaled out I'm still kind of mixed about it because of my tight financial situation. Much as I could use a newer car, I have to make sure I can afford the payments.
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 21:17:03
I hope you have as good luck as we did. Joy was hit by a gal running a red light. Took out the front of our Ford. GEICO was our insurance and we have no complaints. I never thought I would have anything good to say about an insurance company. Nobody was hurt so it might have simplified everything. When all was said and done they fixed the car and we only had to pay for one days car rental.
capt on 06/25/2008 21:17:03
Quote by livingonli:
It looks like Friday is when the insurance company is sending an assessor to look at my car. So, I'll find out then what it costs to fix and whether or not it will be totaled out I'm still kind of mixed about it because of my tight financial situation. Much as I could use a newer car, I have to make sure I can afford the payments.
I hope you have as good luck as we did. Joy was hit by a gal running a red light. Took out the front of our Ford. GEICO was our insurance and we have no complaints. I never thought I would have anything good to say about an insurance company. Nobody was hurt so it might have simplified everything. When all was said and done they fixed the car and we only had to pay for one days car rental.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 21:42:03
I still think you can find something liv. I do.
Raine on 06/25/2008 21:42:03
Quote by livingonli:
It looks like Friday is when the insurance company is sending an assessor to look at my car. So, I'll find out then what it costs to fix and whether or not it will be totaled out I'm still kind of mixed about it because of my tight financial situation. Much as I could use a newer car, I have to make sure I can afford the payments.
I still think you can find something liv. I do.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 21:54:26
I just paid off my truck, so I'd be pissed if it got totalled. The car I had before it was an 88 Buick that got totalled when somebody t-boned me running a red light. I didn't want to take on a payment either, but it was kind of nice having a vehicle that wasn't prone to break down, the A/C worked reliably etc.
I suppose you could look at it that way - if they total your vehicle, you might have to take on a car payment, but you might offset some of that by having fewer car repair bills.
BobR on 06/25/2008 21:54:26
Quote by livingonli:
It looks like Friday is when the insurance company is sending an assessor to look at my car. So, I'll find out then what it costs to fix and whether or not it will be totaled out I'm still kind of mixed about it because of my tight financial situation. Much as I could use a newer car, I have to make sure I can afford the payments.
I just paid off my truck, so I'd be pissed if it got totalled. The car I had before it was an 88 Buick that got totalled when somebody t-boned me running a red light. I didn't want to take on a payment either, but it was kind of nice having a vehicle that wasn't prone to break down, the A/C worked reliably etc.
I suppose you could look at it that way - if they total your vehicle, you might have to take on a car payment, but you might offset some of that by having fewer car repair bills.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 21:57:37
Bob, while they do it straight, it is still Celine Dion. Who by virtue of that fact, sucks rhino sack, donkey prong, the big one, etc. I would say that this only sucks a lil bit.
Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 21:57:37
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Celine Covers AC/DC:
I have to say that didn't suck. The band kept true to the music. Celine essentially sang it straight.
But who was the co-vocalist? That kind of pushed it over into cheese territory.
Bob, while they do it straight, it is still Celine Dion. Who by virtue of that fact, sucks rhino sack, donkey prong, the big one, etc. I would say that this only sucks a lil bit.
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 22:02:38
I know it's Celine Dion, but even a broken clock is right twice a day...
... unless it's digital...
BobR on 06/25/2008 22:02:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bob, while they do it straight, it is still Celine Dion. Who by virtue of that fact, sucks rhino sack, donkey prong, the big one, etc. I would say that this only sucks a lil bit.
I know it's Celine Dion, but even a broken clock is right twice a day...
... unless it's digital...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 22:19:46
Well, she is digital clock in my book! :rofl:
Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 22:19:46
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Bob, while they do it straight, it is still Celine Dion. Who by virtue of that fact, sucks rhino sack, donkey prong, the big one, etc. I would say that this only sucks a lil bit.
I know it's Celine Dion, but even a broken clock is right twice a day...
... unless it's digital...
Well, she is digital clock in my book! :rofl:
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 22:34:29
Random on 06/25/2008 22:34:29
*hiding in the shadows waiting for a moment to strike.*
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 22:39:49
Raine on 06/25/2008 22:39:49
random... 
<----that's about as close to a strike as you will get around these parts...
<----that's about as close to a strike as you will get around these parts...
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 22:41:00
Random on 06/25/2008 22:41:00
Quote by Raine:
random...
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 22:43:31
I'm with Mondobubba on this one, it sucks - big time.
capt on 06/25/2008 22:43:31
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Bob, while they do it straight, it is still Celine Dion. Who by virtue of that fact, sucks rhino sack, donkey prong, the big one, etc. I would say that this only sucks a lil bit.
I know it's Celine Dion, but even a broken clock is right twice a day...
... unless it's digital...
I'm with Mondobubba on this one, it sucks - big time.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 22:44:55
:( the news has indeed been cancelled. I sadly can say that these snippets of information are not news to me, but what about all those people who do not have computers?
OR... those that have no idea how to use them???
This is a serious question to me, these days.
Raine on 06/25/2008 22:44:55
Quote by capt:
From Juan Cole - Pepe Escobar
:( the news has indeed been cancelled. I sadly can say that these snippets of information are not news to me, but what about all those people who do not have computers?
OR... those that have no idea how to use them???
This is a serious question to me, these days.
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 22:48:54
HAr HAr.
Do I need to poke harder?
:D
Raine on 06/25/2008 22:48:54
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
random...
Do I need to poke harder?
:D
Comment by Raine on 06/25/2008 22:52:00
Raine on 06/25/2008 22:52:00
Tonite's dinner... baked Talapia, with Old bay, garlic and other various seasonings, asparagus, and summer squash with Rice.
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 22:52:34
Random on 06/25/2008 22:52:34
Quote by Raine:HAr HAr.Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
random...
Do I need to poke harder?
:D
Comment by BobR on 06/25/2008 22:57:45
When I read "Celine Dion does AC/DC", I was ready to be horrified. I wasn't.
BobR on 06/25/2008 22:57:45
Quote by capt:
I'm with Mondobubba on this one, it sucks - big time.
When I read "Celine Dion does AC/DC", I was ready to be horrified. I wasn't.
Comment by Random on 06/25/2008 23:12:41
This is Random...
Random on 06/25/2008 23:12:41
This is Random...
Comment by livingonli on 06/25/2008 23:22:03
I understand perfectly and with everything wrong with my car now, at least if the car is totalled out, that would give me money for a down payment. And it certainly would help to have A/C again with the hot summer approaching. I guess I've just been worried about the financial situation I have been in since I was out of work and the pay cut that I took while all my other expenses keep going up. If I have to get another car, I will find a way to make it work and hopefully I can still get something under $10,000.
livingonli on 06/25/2008 23:22:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
It looks like Friday is when the insurance company is sending an assessor to look at my car. So, I'll find out then what it costs to fix and whether or not it will be totaled out I'm still kind of mixed about it because of my tight financial situation. Much as I could use a newer car, I have to make sure I can afford the payments.
I just paid off my truck, so I'd be pissed if it got totalled. The car I had before it was an 88 Buick that got totalled when somebody t-boned me running a red light. I didn't want to take on a payment either, but it was kind of nice having a vehicle that wasn't prone to break down, the A/C worked reliably etc.
I suppose you could look at it that way - if they total your vehicle, you might have to take on a car payment, but you might offset some of that by having fewer car repair bills.
I understand perfectly and with everything wrong with my car now, at least if the car is totalled out, that would give me money for a down payment. And it certainly would help to have A/C again with the hot summer approaching. I guess I've just been worried about the financial situation I have been in since I was out of work and the pay cut that I took while all my other expenses keep going up. If I have to get another car, I will find a way to make it work and hopefully I can still get something under $10,000.
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 23:25:05
capt on 06/25/2008 23:25:05
Here at rancho ABQ -
Boneless - skinless butterball tukey breast cooked with butter, garlic, onion, poultry seasoning and a little crushed red pepper.
Green leafy salad.
(on the Suzanne Summers diet)
Boneless - skinless butterball tukey breast cooked with butter, garlic, onion, poultry seasoning and a little crushed red pepper.
Green leafy salad.
(on the Suzanne Summers diet)
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 23:39:18
Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 23:39:18
An entire category on Jeopardy about Ipamema!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 23:43:36
Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 23:43:36
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
Great Obama ad on now. Playing up single mom and his student loans. :hisses: Excellent!
Great Obama ad on now. Playing up single mom and his student loans. :hisses: Excellent!
Comment by capt on 06/25/2008 23:48:32
"I'll take "B" for Bossa Nova for $500, Alex?"
capt on 06/25/2008 23:48:32
Quote by Mondobubba:
An entire category on Jeopardy about Ipamema!
"I'll take "B" for Bossa Nova for $500, Alex?"
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 23:51:18
That was the first question in the category! :D
Mondobubba on 06/25/2008 23:51:18
Quote by capt:Quote by Mondobubba:
An entire category on Jeopardy about Ipamema!
"I'll take "B" for Bossa Nova for $500, Alex?"
That was the first question in the category! :D
Comment by Random on 06/26/2008 00:01:03
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Random on 06/26/2008 00:01:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Comment by MNRN on 06/26/2008 00:05:11
MNRN on 06/26/2008 00:05:11
Mondo, NFW! Love it
oh, and Capt. love that ABQ and the towns up 25 a bit north as well. If onlyI could make there what I make here as an RN....sigh.
evening all. Glass of wine. check.
Kids out back. check.
house cleaning goddess visited today (her name is Leslie) check.
:melting in joy:
oh, and Capt. love that ABQ and the towns up 25 a bit north as well. If onlyI could make there what I make here as an RN....sigh.
evening all. Glass of wine. check.
Kids out back. check.
house cleaning goddess visited today (her name is Leslie) check.
:melting in joy:
Comment by capt on 06/26/2008 00:08:38
capt on 06/26/2008 00:08:38
Log Cabin President Patrick Sammon confirmed his meeting with Senator McCain earlier today.
OMG!
McCain must be sweating bullets - the GOP has tried to pretend there are no gays in the party since . . . forever.
OMG!
McCain must be sweating bullets - the GOP has tried to pretend there are no gays in the party since . . . forever.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:10:50
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:10:50
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:21:55
Nope, sorry Celine in all her incarnations, sucks massive four-legged mammalian ungulate danglely bits.
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:21:55
Quote by MNRN:
Mondo, NFW! Love it
oh, and Capt. love that ABQ and the towns up 25 a bit north as well. If onlyI could make there what I make here as an RN....sigh.
evening all. Glass of wine. check.
Kids out back. check.
house cleaning goddess visited today (her name is Leslie) check.
:melting in joy:
Nope, sorry Celine in all her incarnations, sucks massive four-legged mammalian ungulate danglely bits.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:23:31
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:23:31
Random!
Comment by Random on 06/26/2008 00:23:35
Be careful of who you slam "my homie" gamers will rule the world one day.
*evil laugh*
Random on 06/26/2008 00:23:35
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Be careful of who you slam "my homie" gamers will rule the world one day.
*evil laugh*
Comment by capt on 06/26/2008 00:25:50
capt on 06/26/2008 00:25:50
In my best Simon Cowell:
"It was a little pitchy, not great. I could have gotten that performance from a lounge singer"
"It was a little pitchy, not great. I could have gotten that performance from a lounge singer"
Comment by capt on 06/26/2008 00:26:57
capt on 06/26/2008 00:26:57
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 06/26/2008 00:28:29
velveeta jones on 06/26/2008 00:28:29
WOHOOOO! And Helloooooo! :boobs:
I am having me one of them thar days off tomorrow. Approved by my manager!
Woot!
Going to drive to see the lake............ Michigan that is........... I hear its pretty darn big!! I hope to be able to hear SMS for as long as I can!
One small hitch. Last night I was able to snag a car. Kept mouth shut as my manager told me to........... Those darn people in "Transportation". Early this morning she taps me on the shoulder and makes me turn over the keys.
:grumble:
I think I'll be able to acquire it again. These things take certain talents that Velveeta does have! :P
I am having me one of them thar days off tomorrow. Approved by my manager!
Woot!
Going to drive to see the lake............ Michigan that is........... I hear its pretty darn big!! I hope to be able to hear SMS for as long as I can!
One small hitch. Last night I was able to snag a car. Kept mouth shut as my manager told me to........... Those darn people in "Transportation". Early this morning she taps me on the shoulder and makes me turn over the keys.
:grumble:
I think I'll be able to acquire it again. These things take certain talents that Velveeta does have! :P
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:39:41
Will they "smote" me??
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:39:41
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Be careful of who you slam "my homie" gamers will rule the world one day.
*evil laugh*
Will they "smote" me??
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:42:39
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 00:42:39
Velveeta dahlink! Nice to see ya! Say since you are in Wisconsin, are ya gonna by one of those cheese hats? :rofl:
Comment by MNRN on 06/26/2008 01:04:46
MNRN on 06/26/2008 01:04:46
Mondo----I meant nfw for Ipanema.....not Celine...
Comment by TriSec on 06/26/2008 01:17:00
TriSec on 06/26/2008 01:17:00
Evening, folks! :martini:
I was out scrumming in the dirt today...trimmed my tomatoes (several green ones already present), harvested some dill, transplanted a couple of zucchinis and staked the aforementioned tomatoes and the sunflowers. I feel like such a farmer....and I live in the city!
I was out scrumming in the dirt today...trimmed my tomatoes (several green ones already present), harvested some dill, transplanted a couple of zucchinis and staked the aforementioned tomatoes and the sunflowers. I feel like such a farmer....and I live in the city!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 01:20:03
Ohh my bad... : Wayne Campbell: Waaay!
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 01:20:03
Quote by MNRN:
Mondo----I meant nfw for Ipanema.....not Celine...
Ohh my bad... : Wayne Campbell: Waaay!
Comment by Random on 06/26/2008 01:36:54
Something much more evil. They will make your computer crash, and your TV only play Fox News 24/7
Random on 06/26/2008 01:36:54
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Be careful of who you slam "my homie" gamers will rule the world one day.
*evil laugh*
Will they "smote" me??
Something much more evil. They will make your computer crash, and your TV only play Fox News 24/7
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 01:48:39
Only Fox News? : drama sting: That is a type of smiting!
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 01:48:39
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Be careful of who you slam "my homie" gamers will rule the world one day.
*evil laugh*
Will they "smote" me??
Something much more evil. They will make your computer crash, and your TV only play Fox News 24/7
Only Fox News? : drama sting:
That is a type of smiting!
Comment by Random on 06/26/2008 01:50:57
Remember this Warning. Gamers are the types that grow up to be programers, and hackers. Hacking your cable signal is easy to them.
Be nice to your gamer friends. They will rule the world.
Random on 06/26/2008 01:50:57
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Be careful of who you slam "my homie" gamers will rule the world one day.
*evil laugh*
Will they "smote" me??
Something much more evil. They will make your computer crash, and your TV only play Fox News 24/7
Only Fox News? : drama sting:
Remember this Warning. Gamers are the types that grow up to be programers, and hackers. Hacking your cable signal is easy to them.
Be nice to your gamer friends. They will rule the world.
Comment by Random on 06/26/2008 01:51:10
Remember this Warning. Gamers are the types that grow up to be programers, and hackers. Hacking your cable signal is easy to them.
Be nice to your gamer friends. They will rule the world.
Random on 06/26/2008 01:51:10
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:
I hate the new Playstation 3 commercial with the dude reciting some of the Crispan's Day speech from Henry V. Do they think that the oh so erudite well read gamers will make the connection?
I'm sure there was a slam in there, just unsure of gamers were included in it.
Huge slam, Random my homie! All blog gamers excepted.
Be careful of who you slam "my homie" gamers will rule the world one day.
*evil laugh*
Will they "smote" me??
Something much more evil. They will make your computer crash, and your TV only play Fox News 24/7
Only Fox News? : drama sting:
Remember this Warning. Gamers are the types that grow up to be programers, and hackers. Hacking your cable signal is easy to them.
Be nice to your gamer friends. They will rule the world.
Comment by capt on 06/26/2008 01:59:06
capt on 06/26/2008 01:59:06
I fear the electricians - turn off my power and I am sitting in a boring hot stucco box.
Comment by livingonli on 06/26/2008 02:00:34
livingonli on 06/26/2008 02:00:34
This Reds-Blue Jays game is going on forever. It still beats sitting in a romm locked with Fox News on all the time.
Comment by capt on 06/26/2008 02:15:29
capt on 06/26/2008 02:15:29
Have you all seen this?
Comment by clintster on 06/26/2008 02:16:43
Damn right!
clintster on 06/26/2008 02:16:43
Damn right!
Comment by clintster on 06/26/2008 02:30:19
OK, only 27-28 more times and I should get the hang of this.
clintster on 06/26/2008 02:30:19
OK, only 27-28 more times and I should get the hang of this.
Comment by BobR on 06/26/2008 02:33:04
:rofl:
BobR on 06/26/2008 02:33:04
Quote by Random:
:rofl:
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 02:40:32
Mondobubba on 06/26/2008 02:40:32
Bobber, you and Raine needs to watch "Hard Times At Douglass High" on the HBO on demand mosheen. It is freaking AWSOME! : Po, Kung Fu Panda: Skadoosh!
Comment by Raine on 06/26/2008 02:51:55
I watcehd it. I was great and incredibly sad.
I think it should be required viewing for every American. You want to know what is wrong with America today? this is it, right there.
it isn't JUST NCLB, it is the entire system from Parents being too busy, to not there at all to underfunding schools to just plain old kids to need to be sent to Juvie. It is all there.
Just remember, there are no do over's once you get out of school.
Raine on 06/26/2008 02:51:55
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bobber, you and Raine needs to watch "Hard Times At Douglass High" on the HBO on demand mosheen. It is freaking AWSOME! : Po, Kung Fu Panda: Skadoosh!
I think it should be required viewing for every American. You want to know what is wrong with America today? this is it, right there.
it isn't JUST NCLB, it is the entire system from Parents being too busy, to not there at all to underfunding schools to just plain old kids to need to be sent to Juvie. It is all there.
Just remember, there are no do over's once you get out of school.
Comment by livingonli on 06/26/2008 06:20:01
livingonli on 06/26/2008 06:20:01
Tonight's contribution to latenight video theatre;
The original
And the cover;
The original
And the cover;