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Confederate Flag: buh-bye
Author: BobR    Date: 06/24/2015 13:23:14

It's amazing how quickly public opinion can turn on a topic and result in sweeping change. It wasn't that long ago that "Don't Ask - Don't Tell" was the law of the land. Once that and DOMA got repealed, we saw gay marriage become legal across many states in the country, due to laws falling by court order. Once Americans saw that Armageddon wasn't unleashed, they said "Hey - I'm okay with this". We went from hush-hush to ho-hum in just a few years.

It seems that now the Confederate flag teeters in the same balance.

After the horrific massacre at a historic Charleston church, it became clear that the murderer was driven by hatred for anyone who wasn't white. The confederate flag featured prominently in photos of the psycho, and was clear in video taken at the SC state capitol, where it still flies. Knowing that gun control and reducing gun violence is next to impossible, our need to do something focused on addressing the hate and all it's symbols. The confederate flag fits that bill, like the swastika represents Nazism.

Historically,The flag was only used by the Army of northern VA in the Civil War; it was not used elsewhere. It wasn't until the civil rights era where (once again) defiant southerners began adopting it as a way to flip their collective middle finger at a federal government they felt were interfering with the Jim Crow laws the whites enjoyed. It is probably this - more than the Civil War connection - that gives the flag its reputation.

But since those who embrace the flag claim it's all about "southern pride" - let's examine that quickly. What's to be proud about? Are you proud your ancestors were traitors to the country? Are you proud they lost? Are you proud they fought to ensure "their way of life" (i.e.: slavery)?

I was brought up to treat the Civil War as a black mark on American history, where several states tried to leave the union, causing horrendous bloodshed and destruction. It is a shame of the nation, not something to remember fondly. Our country has healed the wounds with Germany and Japan, and that was after major destruction in WWII. Why can't certain southerners just let this one go?

Nonetheless - the flag appears to be fighting its last battles. South Carolina has agreed to debate this summer whether to remove it from the state capitol grounds. For SC - that's progress. This has spurred other states to act as well, including Mississippi. Virginia is going to banish it from license plates (and recall those already out there). Even NASCAR has its detractors, including the Earnhardts.

Many stores, like Wal-Mart, Sears, and eBay will no longer sell the flag, and Valley Forge Flag is going to stop making them. This has all happened in less than a week.

Naturally, the dying gasp of a bygone era has it's heroes trying to hold on. Stores that are still selling the flag are seeing a booming business, as buyers either want to "stock up" or display their support (i.e.: ignorance) of what will surely become a relic in our time. It will soon be rightly seen as a symbol of stupid white pride by everyone, not just those who aren't white or holding on to some fantasy of the Old South.

Leave it to RushBo, then, to rile up the idiots even more:
Conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh warned on Tuesday that if liberals were allowed to banish the Confederate flag from the South Carolina statehouse grounds then traditional American symbols like the U.S. flag would be next.

“I have a prediction,” Limbaugh announced. “It’s not going to stop with the Confederate flag because it’s not about the Confederate flag, it’s about destroying the South as a political force.”

According to the conservative talker, liberals had a plan to paint everyone in the entire South as if they were the white supremacist who murdered nine black church members in Charleston.

“Do not doubt me!” Limbaugh insisted. “And I’ll make another prediction to you. The next flag that will come under assault — and it will not be long — is the American flag.”

Funny coming from a person whose shows are slowly disappearing from the airwaves. Apropos, really. Two symbols of an embarrassing fading era.
 

31 comments (Latest Comment: 06/24/2015 19:10:40 by trojanrabbit)
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Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 13:32:56
One more casualty of the confederate flag's pleasing demise: Good bye General Lee.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 13:33:12
good morning!

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 13:44:03
Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2015 13:46:41
Morning


Back at work with a lovely cold - pounding the disgusting Zicam to get ride of it before this weekend - ugh


We have this one lady at bingo who likes to where her "You don't understand" t-shirt with the confederate flag on it - going to guess she's gonna wear it more now cause she doesn't get that she's okay with things that rep being traitors and hate mongers.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 13:55:43
The Pearl Clutchers of Perpetual Persecution say that if the hate flag comes downs should this one.
http://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/imagecache/stories/rainbow-flag-400x300.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 06/24/2015 14:22:02
Mornin' all..

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2015 15:02:44
http://media.salon.com/2015/06/donald_trump4.jpg


Caption time!

Comment by BobR on 06/24/2015 15:13:59
Quote by Mondobubba:
http://media.salon.com/2015/06/donald_trump4.jpg


Caption time!



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2015 15:22:09
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
http://media.salon.com/2015/06/donald_trump4.jpg


Caption time!




Bobber, get out of my brain!

Comment by BobR on 06/24/2015 15:25:37
Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 15:34:00

Wow. That is a serious wow, from me.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 15:36:21

FRom the Al.Com link:

Two workers came out of the Capitol building about 8:20 a.m. and with no fanfare quickly and quietly took the flag down. They declined to answer questions.

Moments later Gov. Bentley emerged from the Capitol on his way to an appearance in Hackleburg. Asked if he had ordered the flag taken down, the governor said, "Yes I did."

Asked his reasons for taking it down and if it included what happened in Charleston last week, the governor said, "Yes, partially this is about that. This is the right thing to do. We are facing some major issues in this state regarding the budget and other matters that we need to deal with. This had the potential to become a major distraction as we go forward. I have taxes to raise, we have work to do. And it was my decision that the flag needed to come down."


Amazing, imo.



Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 17:10:51
Boston peep:

WTF is going on with a guy and a meat cleaver outside the Tsarnov sentencing hearing?

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 17:12:24
Quote by Raine:
Boston peep:

WTF is going on with a guy and a meat cleaver outside the Tsarnov sentencing hearing?

check out the feed.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 17:13:51
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Boston peep:

WTF is going on with a guy and a meat cleaver outside the Tsarnov sentencing hearing?

check out the feed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIR9LLDXAAALuU6.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2015 17:15:46
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Boston peep:

WTF is going on with a guy and a meat cleaver outside the Tsarnov sentencing hearing?

check out the feed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIR9LLDXAAALuU6.jpg



Dude had it stashed in his license plate?

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2015 17:17:07
Meanwhile, in Louisiana. The clown car gets more crowded

Yes, we all missed the big announcement Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 17:28:12
Quote by Mondobubba:
Meanwhile, in Louisiana. The clown car gets more crowded

Yes, we all missed the big announcement Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal.

Bobby brady Jindal! The excitement is almost to much.

OH LOOK!



Comment by Scoopster on 06/24/2015 17:28:23
Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 17:30:08
It really is a shitty chain, isn;t it?


Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2015 17:33:20
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Meanwhile, in Louisiana. The clown car gets more crowded

Yes, we all missed the big announcement Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal.

Bobby brady Jindal! The excitement is almost to much.

OH LOOK!




Don't pick on Kenneth the Page like that.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 17:35:27
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Meanwhile, in Louisiana. The clown car gets more crowded

Yes, we all missed the big announcement Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal.

Bobby brady Jindal! The excitement is almost to much.

OH LOOK!




Don't pick on Kenneth the Page like that.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_toxDcNZARlM/St3qFo_xaOI/AAAAAAAADQk/gAMu7e5zIq8/s400/bobby-jindal-kenneth-parcell.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 06/24/2015 17:38:59
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/24/2015 17:39:17
Quote by Raine:
It really is a shitty chain, isn;t it?

You mean the fact it's referred to as "Whole Paycheck" wasn't a tipoff?

Comment by livingonli on 06/24/2015 17:41:08
Good day, folks. Maybe Miss Opem mouth, insert foot's 15 minutes are finally coming to an end.

Got to do some prep work before I hit the road tomorrow.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/24/2015 17:41:12
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Meanwhile, in Louisiana. The clown car gets more crowded

Yes, we all missed the big announcement Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal.

Bobby brady Jindal! The excitement is almost to much.

OH LOOK!




Don't pick on Kenneth the Page like that.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_toxDcNZARlM/St3qFo_xaOI/AAAAAAAADQk/gAMu7e5zIq8/s400/bobby-jindal-kenneth-parcell.jpg

Well, I suppose that reduces the additional amount of damage Piyush can inflict on LA.

Comment by Raine on 06/24/2015 17:43:38
In other more important news… (that clown car is just silliness)

Former Maryland Gov. O’Malley and Sen. Sanders of Vermont will participate in the Town Hall on Saturday, July 18, at 10:30 a.m. To date, the Clinton campaign has declined our invitation to participate. We are hopeful that as the date approaches the campaign will reconsider addressing this core progressive community who are most eager to hear from her. The Town Hall will include a moderated audience Q&A.





Comment by livingonli on 06/24/2015 17:45:58
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Meanwhile, in Louisiana. The clown car gets more crowded

Yes, we all missed the big announcement Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal.

Bobby brady Jindal! The excitement is almost to much.

OH LOOK!




Don't pick on Kenneth the Page like that.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_toxDcNZARlM/St3qFo_xaOI/AAAAAAAADQk/gAMu7e5zIq8/s400/bobby-jindal-kenneth-parcell.jpg

Well, I suppose that reduces the additional amount of damage Piyush can inflict on LA.

He has the lowest approval rating of any Governor in the Union, he probably couldn't even win his home state primary.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/24/2015 17:46:30
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
It really is a shitty chain, isn;t it?

You mean the fact it's referred to as "Whole Paycheck" wasn't a tipoff?



I always called it Pretentious Foods.

Comment by BobR on 06/24/2015 18:15:12
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
It really is a shitty chain, isn;t it?

You mean the fact it's referred to as "Whole Paycheck" wasn't a tipoff?



I always called it Pretentious Foods.

Inspectors weighed 80 different types of items at Whole Foods' eight locations in the city that were open at the time. They found every label was inaccurate, with many overcharging consumers, agency spokeswoman Abby Lootens told The News.
(bold-face mine)

holy-crap, that is amazing.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/24/2015 19:10:40
Confirmed small tornado in Wrentham, MA yesterday afternoon.

About 5 minutes from Chez Rabbit.