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Yes, We Can't (even)
Author: Raine
Date: 09/17/2015 13:12:50
Yes, we watched the 'debate' last night. I made an early prediction stating that the most substantial portion of the evening would be the Junior Varsity team that consisted of Governor Bobby Jindal, Senator Lyndsey Graham, Former Governor George Pataki and former Senator Rick Santorum.
Watching the alleged main event was like something out of a dystopian novel.
One of these people we watched last night will eventually be the Republican nominee. One of those people could potentially become president.
Watching the debate last night I was struck at the amount of xenophobia that oozed from the second debate. The amount of half truths and lies were difficult to digest.
Each one of the people on that stage last night believes that this country is so bad off that only they can save it.
It was full of negativity and distress, and I can't even. I just can't even imagine any of those 11 people on the prime time stage as President.
Raine
Watching the alleged main event was like something out of a dystopian novel.
One of these people we watched last night will eventually be the Republican nominee. One of those people could potentially become president.
Watching the debate last night I was struck at the amount of xenophobia that oozed from the second debate. The amount of half truths and lies were difficult to digest.
Each one of the people on that stage last night believes that this country is so bad off that only they can save it.
It was full of negativity and distress, and I can't even. I just can't even imagine any of those 11 people on the prime time stage as President.
Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/17/2015 13:19:58
wickedpam on 09/17/2015 13:19:58
Morning 
You guys watched so we didn't have too - thanks cause I can't stomach it at all any more.
You guys watched so we didn't have too - thanks cause I can't stomach it at all any more.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 13:24:17
Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 13:24:17
Morning all.
Comment by 
BobR on 09/17/2015 13:53:34
BobR on 09/17/2015 13:53:34
The biggest disappointment with the debates last night was that there was no fact checking. The moderators didn't challenge the candidates at all on the bullshit they were spewing.
And of course - Trump spoke in grandiose generalities.
And of course - Trump spoke in grandiose generalities.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 14:09:04
The particular howler from Trump was, after being dinged by Bush about being special interest lobbying for casino gambling in Florida, Trump flat out lied and said it never happened. Following on that, was Trump saying if he had done that he would have gotten casinos. Politfact says nooe.
Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 14:09:04
Quote by BobR:
The biggest disappointment with the debates last night was that there was no fact checking. The moderators didn't challenge the candidates at all on the bullshit they were spewing.
And of course - Trump spoke in grandiose generalities.
The particular howler from Trump was, after being dinged by Bush about being special interest lobbying for casino gambling in Florida, Trump flat out lied and said it never happened. Following on that, was Trump saying if he had done that he would have gotten casinos. Politfact says nooe.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/17/2015 14:12:12
Raine on 09/17/2015 14:12:12
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/17/2015 14:14:29
Scoopster on 09/17/2015 14:14:29
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 14:19:53
Margaret thatcher, dear effin lawd.
Raine on 09/17/2015 14:19:53
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..
I'm amazed Walker had a legit answer to this.
Margaret thatcher, dear effin lawd.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 14:31:38
Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 14:31:38
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/17/2015 14:32:50
Will in Chicago on 09/17/2015 14:32:50
I missed the debate as I was at the shiva for a cousin's husband. I wonder if the GOP can produce a single candidate who will not be a disaster like George W. Bush.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/17/2015 14:51:57
Will in Chicago on 09/17/2015 14:51:57
Jon Stewart lobbied Congress on behalf of 9/11 emergency responders. In a better world, there would be no question of making sure that these men and women have the benefits that they need.
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/17/2015 15:58:14
TriSec on 09/17/2015 15:58:14
I plunged a dagger into my own eye last night rather than watch the debacle. Clearly, I had more fun.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 16:16:31
Raine on 09/17/2015 16:16:31
Noon time and another three hour campaign ad for Bernie Sanders. *click*
I like Bernie — but this is getting ridiculous. Thom is acting like Sanders ws the only one with smarts tweets last night.
I like Bernie — but this is getting ridiculous. Thom is acting like Sanders ws the only one with smarts tweets last night.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/17/2015 16:31:45
trojanrabbit on 09/17/2015 16:31:45
The Reagan Library stage last night was as close as any of those clowns should come to any Air Force One.
I had better things to do last night, like finalize the playlist for tonight's Paul's Memory Bank.
It was amusing to see Fiorina answer Trump's sexist remark and Trump's subsequent flip-flop. While she did spearhead the destruction of two tech companies, I have to wonder where my career would be if she didn't fail so spectacularly at HP. Would HP still have spun off their medical division as part of Agilient? Would Philips have been in the position to purchase that medical division, particularly the Andover facility? If those things didn't happen, I would not be where I am now. So I'm just a little mixed where Fiorina is concerned.
I had better things to do last night, like finalize the playlist for tonight's Paul's Memory Bank.
It was amusing to see Fiorina answer Trump's sexist remark and Trump's subsequent flip-flop. While she did spearhead the destruction of two tech companies, I have to wonder where my career would be if she didn't fail so spectacularly at HP. Would HP still have spun off their medical division as part of Agilient? Would Philips have been in the position to purchase that medical division, particularly the Andover facility? If those things didn't happen, I would not be where I am now. So I'm just a little mixed where Fiorina is concerned.
Comment by TriSec on 09/17/2015 18:08:47
TriSec on 09/17/2015 18:08:47
BTW, don't hate Tom Brady because he cheats; hate Tom Brady because he supports Donald Trump.
I do.
I do.
Comment by BobR on 09/17/2015 18:21:31
I can multi-task hate
BobR on 09/17/2015 18:21:31
Quote by TriSec:
BTW, don't hate Tom Brady because he cheats; hate Tom Brady because he supports Donald Trump.
I do.
I can multi-task hate
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/17/2015 18:28:58
livingonli on 09/17/2015 18:28:58
I'm glad work kept me from having to watch that freak show last night because I don't have the patience to deal with the bullshit. Debates need to be fact-checked as they air live because it seems like the bullshit isn't called out until after and not everyone sees it.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 18:54:06
Raine on 09/17/2015 18:54:06
Comment by livingonli on 09/17/2015 18:56:00
Joining the private prison industry so that brutality and Fascism can be handled by the private sector.
livingonli on 09/17/2015 18:56:00
Quote by Raine:This is frightening.Quote by Scoopster:
Sigh.. this is the last thing Missouri needs.
Joining the private prison industry so that brutality and Fascism can be handled by the private sector.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 18:56:02
HE forget to mention his mom is Irish-Italian and AMERKN!
That would have got applause.
Raine on 09/17/2015 18:56:02
Quote by BobR:
Poor Ted...
That would have got applause.
Comment by BobR on 09/17/2015 19:04:57
Yet another state to avoid.
BobR on 09/17/2015 19:04:57
Quote by Raine:This is frightening.Quote by Scoopster:
Sigh.. this is the last thing Missouri needs.
Yet another state to avoid.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 19:18:00
I hate it, but I have to agree.
Raine on 09/17/2015 19:18:00
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:This is frightening.Quote by Scoopster:
Sigh.. this is the last thing Missouri needs.
Yet another state to avoid.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 19:25:04
Raine on 09/17/2015 19:25:04
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 19:51:00
I could have sworn the peanut head one was Trump.
Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 19:51:00
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Trump or President Camacho
brlliant and terrifying….
I could have sworn the peanut head one was Trump.
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 19:57:48
The only one I was sure about was the last one.
Dog damn you kim davis!
Raine on 09/17/2015 19:57:48
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Trump or President Camacho
brlliant and terrifying….
I could have sworn the peanut head one was Trump.
Dog damn you kim davis!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 19:59:04
Thanks, OBAMA!
Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 19:59:04
Quote by Raine:The only one I was sure about was the last one.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Trump or President Camacho
brlliant and terrifying….
I could have sworn the peanut head one was Trump.
Dog damn you kim davis!
Thanks, OBAMA!
Comment by BobR on 09/17/2015 20:18:19
I've seen "Idiocracy" enough to know which are which
BobR on 09/17/2015 20:18:19
Quote by Raine:The only one I was sure about was the last one.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Trump or President Camacho
brlliant and terrifying….
I could have sworn the peanut head one was Trump.
Dog damn you kim davis!
I've seen "Idiocracy" enough to know which are which
Comment by Raine on 09/17/2015 20:27:24
Raine on 09/17/2015 20:27:24
When you lose the Nation, that says a lot.
24M watched 1st R debate.
23M watched 2nd R debate.
Viewership of D debates so far: 0.
@MartinOMalley is right: This is a major DNC fail.
— John Nichols (@NicholsUprising) September 17, 2015
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 20:48:43
Mondobubba on 09/17/2015 20:48:43
I will not be around tomorrow. I gots WFTDA R1 Regionals! Three days of world class roller derby action! It will be hot! The home team is playing! New Jax rules! DUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
904! 904!
904! 904!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/17/2015 21:03:38
I have to agree. Some of the debates are on the weekend.
I think that the Democratic Party leadership needs a change, and that Debbie Wasserman Schultz should listen to those calling for more debates.
Will in Chicago on 09/17/2015 21:03:38
Quote by Raine:
When you lose the Nation, that says a lot.24M watched 1st R debate. 23M watched 2nd R debate. Viewership of D debates so far: 0. @MartinOMalley is right: This is a major DNC fail.
— John Nichols (@NicholsUprising) September 17, 2015
I have to agree. Some of the debates are on the weekend.
I think that the Democratic Party leadership needs a change, and that Debbie Wasserman Schultz should listen to those calling for more debates.
Comment by TriSec on 09/18/2015 00:35:41
TriSec on 09/18/2015 00:35:41
You know folks...in Boston's Museum of Science there is a mechanical calculator built entirely out of Tinkertoys.
It's true that college kids built it (MIT) a lifetime ago (circa 1980), but one could only imagine what a public school in Texas might have done had such a contraption been presented in the classroom by a student?
It's true that college kids built it (MIT) a lifetime ago (circa 1980), but one could only imagine what a public school in Texas might have done had such a contraption been presented in the classroom by a student?