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The Two Obamas
Author: BobR
Date: 07/09/2008 05:17:32
If you bounce around the internets and the news, it seems like there are two Obamas out there. One is way too liberal; one is way too "centrist". One is staying true to his message; one is flip-flopping. How can he be both of these things? Perhaps this should be a clue as to the right-wing's tactics for this campaign.
I found it odd that there were so many contradictory news reports about Obama. These aren't opinions (per se) - they are actual news items that seem almost contradictory. Here is a prime example:
Obama courts conservatives with new faith program:
Obama to scrap Bush's faith-based office:
Careful reading will show that the two stories are essentially the same. So what's going on? The story being told to the right-leaning moderates is "Obama is scrapping the faith-based initiatives". The story being told to the left-leaning Democrats is "Obama wants to steer money towards religious groups". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the strategy. If they can disillusion the left enough to not show up, and scare the middle-right enough to vote for McCain, they might be able to win this fall.
The same thing is going on with Obama's position in the political spectrum. He is getting tagged with the same label as Al Gore: "The Most Liberal Member of the Senate". Naturally, this will cause concern among certain people, despite the fact that it isn't true. At the same time, the meme that Obama is "tacking toward the center" is being used to alienate him from the left. The term "tacking right" is being used everywhere, including news stories. I wonder who first put that phrase out there and leaned on it hard enough for it to become part of the zeitgeist?
The most insidious thing is: the idea of Obama "tacking right" cuts two ways - it makes the left feel used, and it makes the right consider him to be a flip-flopper without specifically saying so. It's subtle, it's deadly, it's an idea we need to quit perpetuating.
We all need to look beyond the story headlines, beyond the pundits' interpretations, and actually read the words coming from his mouth - in context - and see what he's saying. It's time we all take a few minutes to actually read his platform, and then we may not be as surprised when a story floats by describing how he has once again left those who brung him to the dance sitting on the bleachers while he dances off with the popular girl.
It's time to stop letting the right-wing define who he is. When we buy into their spin, they win.
I found it odd that there were so many contradictory news reports about Obama. These aren't opinions (per se) - they are actual news items that seem almost contradictory. Here is a prime example:
Obama courts conservatives with new faith program:
Taking a page from President Bush, Democrat Barack Obama said Tuesday he wants to expand White House efforts to steer social service dollars to religious groups, risking protests in his own party with his latest aggressive reach for voters who usually vote Republican.
Obama to scrap Bush's faith-based office:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) plans to slam President Bush’s faith-based program as “a photo op” and a failure on Tuesday, and says he would scrap the office and create a new Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships that would be a “critical” part of his administration.
Obama, unveiling a plan to overhaul and expand Bush’s faith-based program during remarks at a community ministry in Zanesville, Ohio, said the White House Office of Community and Faith-Based Initiatives — which Bush founded during his second week in office — “never fulfilled its promise.”
“Support for social services to the poor and the needy have been consistently underfunded,” Obama says in prepared remarks. “Rather than promoting the cause of all faith-based organizations, former officials in the Office have described how it was used to promote partisan interests. As a result, the smaller congregations and community groups that were supposed to be empowered ended up getting short-changed.”
Careful reading will show that the two stories are essentially the same. So what's going on? The story being told to the right-leaning moderates is "Obama is scrapping the faith-based initiatives". The story being told to the left-leaning Democrats is "Obama wants to steer money towards religious groups". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand the strategy. If they can disillusion the left enough to not show up, and scare the middle-right enough to vote for McCain, they might be able to win this fall.
The same thing is going on with Obama's position in the political spectrum. He is getting tagged with the same label as Al Gore: "The Most Liberal Member of the Senate". Naturally, this will cause concern among certain people, despite the fact that it isn't true. At the same time, the meme that Obama is "tacking toward the center" is being used to alienate him from the left. The term "tacking right" is being used everywhere, including news stories. I wonder who first put that phrase out there and leaned on it hard enough for it to become part of the zeitgeist?
The most insidious thing is: the idea of Obama "tacking right" cuts two ways - it makes the left feel used, and it makes the right consider him to be a flip-flopper without specifically saying so. It's subtle, it's deadly, it's an idea we need to quit perpetuating.
We all need to look beyond the story headlines, beyond the pundits' interpretations, and actually read the words coming from his mouth - in context - and see what he's saying. It's time we all take a few minutes to actually read his platform, and then we may not be as surprised when a story floats by describing how he has once again left those who brung him to the dance sitting on the bleachers while he dances off with the popular girl.
It's time to stop letting the right-wing define who he is. When we buy into their spin, they win.
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Comment by 
BobR on 07/09/2008 05:18:18
BobR on 07/09/2008 05:18:18
Yes, I am posting this in the wee hours... I don't feel like getting up early...
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/09/2008 07:24:33
livingonli on 07/09/2008 07:24:33
I can relate to that. Then again I didn't get home until after 2 AM tonight. It was a little crazy tonight. I'm watching Countdown on the DVR and then turning in.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 09:09:46
trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 09:09:46
I don't feel like getting up early, but I have to anyway.
Oh --- Larry King, Peter Cook and Christie Brinkley --- rot in hell for getting in the way of my Stephanie fix.
:rolleyes: :)
Oh --- Larry King, Peter Cook and Christie Brinkley --- rot in hell for getting in the way of my Stephanie fix.
:rolleyes: :)
Comment by 
Random on 07/09/2008 10:52:08
Random on 07/09/2008 10:52:08
wow...i actually read the blog post...
no offense to anyone else...i have an attention span of a gnat...
What was i writing about?
no offense to anyone else...i have an attention span of a gnat...
What was i writing about?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 11:38:06
trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 11:38:06
There's an open box of donuts next to my desk.
Must.....resist.......donuts......
I had a good blood sugar reading this morning, can't screw it up.
Must.....resist.......donuts......
I had a good blood sugar reading this morning, can't screw it up.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 12:09:24
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 12:09:24
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/09/2008 12:15:32
TriSec on 07/09/2008 12:15:32
Morning, folks!
Bob...I wouldn't worry too much about our side, I think we're smart enough to realize what the right is trying.
What worries me is those "centrists" and the loyal, brain-dead,Bush McCain supporters that lick this stuff up.
Mrs. TriSec has started receiving the usual barrage of lies from her right-wing relatives in Miami. It consistently amazes me that these people are even able to walk upright and use their opposable thumbs, never mind a computer...
Bob...I wouldn't worry too much about our side, I think we're smart enough to realize what the right is trying.
What worries me is those "centrists" and the loyal, brain-dead,
Mrs. TriSec has started receiving the usual barrage of lies from her right-wing relatives in Miami. It consistently amazes me that these people are even able to walk upright and use their opposable thumbs, never mind a computer...
Comment by 
capt on 07/09/2008 12:39:14
capt on 07/09/2008 12:39:14
Good Morning all!
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 12:51:42
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 12:51:42
Is it morning already? 
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 12:52:16
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 12:52:16
Morning all.
Excellent and timely post BobR. I was just saying to the lovely Aunt Azalea this am, that above all we need to trust Obama.
I certainly trust him more than I did John Kerry, who I worked for and voted for. I am not about to abandon him. And for who? Nader?
PuLEEEZE!!
Excellent and timely post BobR. I was just saying to the lovely Aunt Azalea this am, that above all we need to trust Obama.
I certainly trust him more than I did John Kerry, who I worked for and voted for. I am not about to abandon him. And for who? Nader?
PuLEEEZE!!
Comment by 
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:11:19
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:11:19
If Mama does do the Miss Teen SC speech in London, she should really wear a tiara. Maybe she can ask the Queen for a spare.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:11:42
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:11:42
London Calling is a great song - I would have used On the BBC though - I like the tempo better.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:13:36
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:13:36
I love that montage! :rofl:
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 13:13:55
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:13:55
MRS. CHOCULA! I think she needs to get into a steel cage match with Harriet. Just as long as Sasha Baron Cohen doesn't run it, I think it would rock.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:19:47
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:19:47
Yes, I vote that Steph do bits of McCains speeches. And stand all stiff and blinky-eyed like him, saying things like: "We need to deliver hot bottled water to dehydrated babies...."
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 13:20:01
TriSec on 07/09/2008 13:20:01
Oh yes, that reminds me....I saw a new RW bumper sticker this morning:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:20:49
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:20:49
"Gay marrying caribu commies" 
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 13:21:45
capt on 07/09/2008 13:21:45
BobR,
Great post - touches a nerve.
The M$M has not only failed us - the are culpable.
UGH@!
Great post - touches a nerve.
The M$M has not only failed us - the are culpable.
UGH@!
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:23:16
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:23:16
Funny Obama/McCain story:
My friend's cat has a bum leg and therefore was given the name "BumLeg." Our mutual friend, who tends to lean MUCH more right than we do was visiting last night, so to annoy her I started calling "BumLeg" "ObamaLeg!" And, she followed up with "Have you seen my McCain, I've got ObamaLeg!"
yaaaa prooobably had ta be there.
My friend's cat has a bum leg and therefore was given the name "BumLeg." Our mutual friend, who tends to lean MUCH more right than we do was visiting last night, so to annoy her I started calling "BumLeg" "ObamaLeg!" And, she followed up with "Have you seen my McCain, I've got ObamaLeg!"
yaaaa prooobably had ta be there.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:25:33
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:25:33
:dance: "check it out"
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 13:31:25
BobR on 07/09/2008 13:31:25
It's alive!....
barely... :coffee2:
barely... :coffee2:
Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 13:31:59
capt on 07/09/2008 13:31:59
Barack's hair is turning gray and I know why . . .
McCain is soooo melanin challenged he is actually a "White hole" (opposite of a black hole). The white hole is sucking Barack's color out of his hair as they approach the event horizon.
McCain is soooo melanin challenged he is actually a "White hole" (opposite of a black hole). The white hole is sucking Barack's color out of his hair as they approach the event horizon.
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 13:32:31
It's not the obvious lies targeted at the right that worry me - it's the subtle spin targeted at the left.
BobR on 07/09/2008 13:32:31
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, folks!
Bob...I wouldn't worry too much about our side, I think we're smart enough to realize what the right is trying.
What worries me is those "centrists" and the loyal, brain-dead,BushMcCain supporters that lick this stuff up.
Mrs. TriSec has started receiving the usual barrage of lies from her right-wing relatives in Miami. It consistently amazes me that these people are even able to walk upright and use their opposable thumbs, never mind a computer...
It's not the obvious lies targeted at the right that worry me - it's the subtle spin targeted at the left.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:37:12
velveeta jones on 07/09/2008 13:37:12
EW!!! EW!!! Even Velveeta is blushing and puking over that disgusting audio! Perhaps its because BillO is doing the reading. Ug. *shudder*
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:39:48
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:39:48
When did Barack Obama EVER say Iran was not a serious threat? Never. He NEVER said that. I recall him say, he would want to talk to them ( Iran ) about their threateningyness!! ( Yes, that's a word. You can look it up. )
Comment by 
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:40:08
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:40:08
Good morning!
Excellent Essay this morning Bobber. :clap:
Excellent Essay this morning Bobber. :clap:
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 13:40:35
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:40:35
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:43:06
Did he use a ?
:thud:
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:43:06
Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:47:57
FIGHTER!
Sing it Christina!
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:47:57
FIGHTER!Sing it Christina!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:50:17
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 13:50:17
Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:52:57
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:52:57
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 13:54:02
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
clintster on 07/09/2008 13:54:02
Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 13:54:50
I think she has an amazing voice.
She was in the Rolling Stones Documentary and sang with them. She belted it out like no one's business.
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:54:50
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
She was in the Rolling Stones Documentary and sang with them. She belted it out like no one's business.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:56:04
I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . .
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:56:04
Quote by clintster:Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . .
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:57:06
Oh! And, Pink. Justin, Christine and Pink...I am okay with saying that I like them all and have full albums of their music on the 'ole iPod.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 13:57:06
Quote by Raine:I think she has an amazing voice.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
She was in the Rolling Stones Documentary and sang with them. She belted it out like no one's business.
Oh! And, Pink. Justin, Christine and Pink...I am okay with saying that I like them all and have full albums of their music on the 'ole iPod.
Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 13:57:41
Raine on 07/09/2008 13:57:41
Oh dear. Another Georgia story...
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 14:01:36
NOOOOOOO! Why, God? Whyhyhyyyyyyyyyyy???!?!?!?
clintster on 07/09/2008 14:01:36
Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:Quote by starling310:Quote by clintster:
I was listening to Hannity yesterday while picking up my son from daycare, and he had the nerve to say that he was having to "Alert" the public to the fact that Barack uses TELEPROMPTERS to give speeches.
Did he use a ?
:thud:
Naaah, it was the radio, but he was going on about how Americans were being "Hypnotized" by Obama and it was his sacred duty to wake them up to his "radical" ways. I just had to laugh at Listy at that point. THIS is the best they can come up with to smear him? Using a device that politicians have used to make speeches since the 60s?
I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . I cannot hear you. . . must vote for Obama. . . .
NOOOOOOO! Why, God? Whyhyhyyyyyyyyyyy???!?!?!?
Comment by BobR on 07/09/2008 14:02:50
BobR on 07/09/2008 14:02:50
Email I got from a co-worker:
Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
The United States should get out of the United Nations, and
our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body,
but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.
The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.
Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.
You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.
What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
The United States should get out of the United Nations, and
our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body,
but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.
The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.
Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.
You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.
What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:05:31
This is gonna be a biggee!
Great email. I may have to pass that on to a few folks.
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:05:31
Quote by BobR:
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
This is gonna be a biggee!
Great email. I may have to pass that on to a few folks.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:09:28
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:09:28
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:11:11
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:11:11
Oh and Pink just rocks. How can you not love someone who has a song called "Cuz I Can"
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:12:59
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:12:59
She sounds like a munchkin! :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:13:26
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:13:26
OMG JIM!!!
Jim "be still my :heart:" Ward
Jim "be still my :heart:" Ward
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:14:34
Meh!? MEH!?!
:thud:
( psst...justin is awesome )
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:14:34
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
Meh!? MEH!?!
:thud:
( psst...justin is awesome )
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 14:14:50
clintster on 07/09/2008 14:14:50
Oh... my... God! I could listen to Steph's 80's DJ voice all day. And I've a feeling I will!
Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 14:17:20
Shane-O on 07/09/2008 14:17:20
SMS Budget endorsement ...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:18:30
Ya - just not a boy band fan :shrug:
wickedpam on 07/09/2008 14:18:30
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
Sing it Christina!
Liberal confession - that is one of the 3 Christina songs in my iPod along with Dirty and Ain't no other man
No confession necessary....that girl can sing! And, she has come out on top, in my opinion. She took time to grow up and stay out of the Bubble Gum Pop Downfall Drama and came back with a kick a** look and album.
She and Justin Timberlake...they are truly talented and managed to keep :: olympia dukakis :: "their lives from going down the toilet!"
Interesting thing is I like Brittany when she first came out. It was cute and poppy and no thinking was required, good sing along car music and all. And Christina got on my nerves, now it's completely switched around.
As for Justin - meh
Meh!? MEH!?!
:thud:
( psst...justin is awesome )
Ya - just not a boy band fan :shrug:
Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 14:19:53
clintster on 07/09/2008 14:19:53
I can't believe that Jim did his Dick Vader impression on taking the science out of that report without adding this line:
"I have altered the report. Pray I don't alter it any further."
"I have altered the report. Pray I don't alter it any further."
Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:21:02
livingonli on 07/09/2008 14:21:02
Good morning everyone. 
Must...get....up. :staggers: Resist...urge....to...sleep.
:Thud:
:coffee: <---- need more caffeine.
Must...get....up. :staggers: Resist...urge....to...sleep.
:Thud:
:coffee: <---- need more caffeine.
Comment by starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:21:07
starling310 on 07/09/2008 14:21:07
"What do you know about Pressure?!"
"Well, I have kissed a man!"
"Well, I have kissed a man!"