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The media is to blame.
Author: Raine    Date: 10/29/2015 13:07:10

I would like to tell you I watched the debate last night.

No, actually I would like to tell you that the 15 or so short minutes that I decided to watch was more than enough to say that this was a debacle. It was a lot of poo-flinging and no policy discussion, regardless of the questions that were asked.

According to the people on stage, though, and the people running the party it wasn't the fault of the candidates:
After the debate, Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus criticized CNBC, saying it “should be ashamed of how this debate was handled.”

In a statement, he said the moderators were “extremely disappointing and did a disservice to their network, our candidates, and voters.”

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who got less screen time than many of the other candidates, also went after the network.

“They didn’t control the debate, plain and simple. It was not a fair debate in that regard,” he said in an interview on CNN afterward.

Bush campaign manager Danny Diaz said he spoke with CNBC during the debate and expressed dissatisfaction with the amount of time Bush got.

"We know we can't do debates with MSNBC. Now we can't do anything with CNBC. So I think NBC News has a problem on their hands," said Mike Shields, a former top aide at the RNC.
Well with gems like these, who would't blame CNBC for the way the alleged responsible, mature and skilled politicians answered?



In the debate transcript, the word (crosstalk) appears 53 times.

Truthfully. I think every one of those people wanted to go after the media because none of them have anything truly substantial to talk about. And let me make something really clear: when they talk about the Mainstream Media not being fair, they are talking about how it isn't conservative enough for them

It's really sad.

Raine

30 comments (Latest Comment: 10/29/2015 21:02:21 by Will in Chicago)
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Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 13:08:14
Holy shit! Chris is leaving radio altogether!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2015 13:14:01
Morning

Don't think I say this enough but all of you guys are so amazing and awesome.

Comment by BobR on 10/29/2015 13:23:03
This is what should have been played after every response at the Republican debate:

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/29/2015 13:38:46
What the FUCK???!!!

I just came here to talk about the debate, now I hear CHRIS is leaving???? WTF????

Where, how, why, what, who, whom????????

I NEED DETAILS PEOPLE!!

Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 13:42:56
Quote by velveeta jones:
What the FUCK???!!!

I just came here to talk about the debate, now I hear CHRIS is leaving???? WTF????

Where, how, why, what, who, whom????????

I NEED DETAILS PEOPLE!!
He got a job at a palm Spring Casino as a PR guy.

I am really sad about this. last day November 13.


Comment by velveeta jones on 10/29/2015 14:03:13
Quote by Raine:
Quote by velveeta jones:
What the FUCK???!!!

I just came here to talk about the debate, now I hear CHRIS is leaving???? WTF????

Where, how, why, what, who, whom????????

I NEED DETAILS PEOPLE!!
He got a job at a palm Spring Casino as a PR guy.

I am really sad about this. last day November 13.


TRAITOR!!

Imma send Ben Carson to stab him!

Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 14:25:21
I kinda hope they reach out to try and Hire Randi Rhodes for producer…


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2015 14:29:25
Quote by Raine:
Quote by velveeta jones:
What the FUCK???!!!

I just came here to talk about the debate, now I hear CHRIS is leaving???? WTF????

Where, how, why, what, who, whom????????

I NEED DETAILS PEOPLE!!
He got a job at a palm Spring Casino as a PR guy.

I am really sad about this. last day November 13.


Can you blame the guy? Maybe he wants to be able to sleep past insane o'clock. :shurg: Maybe he's giving radio up for love? Who knows.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2015 14:44:54
Quote by Raine:
I kinda hope they reach out to try and Hire Randi Rhodes for producer…


Now that would be big.

I skipped the debate last night. I donated blood and already felt a bit worn out, so I did not need the GOP debate.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/29/2015 14:56:32
Mornin' all..

Do any of you guys think it's strange that there was a lot of media stuff tearing down Rubio in the 2-3 days before this debate, and then he goes out and kills it? Seems like there was a set-up going to make him look good.

Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 14:59:06
Ryan is now speaker of the house.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2015 15:01:23
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Do any of you guys think it's strange that there was a lot of media stuff tearing down Rubio in the 2-3 days before this debate, and then he goes out and kills it? Seems like there was a set-up going to make him look good.

http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/9/1/0/7/foil-fedora.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2015 15:46:25


Really do think he planned for this all along. He's a pint sized troll.


Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 16:45:02
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.






Comment by TriSec on 10/29/2015 17:11:02
Grunt. The Trib did not endorse the TriSec. Looks like I'm a victim of the media conspiracy, just like the GOP.




Comment by Scoopster on 10/29/2015 17:20:42
Quote by Raine:
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.


For a Princeton grad, he really doesn't know jack shit about world history. The diff between those two is closer to the difference between 'mainstream' Repubs and the Tea Party Caucus. It's all about the purity of the party.

Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 17:32:07
Quote by TriSec:
Grunt. The Trib did not endorse the TriSec. Looks like I'm a victim of the media conspiracy, just like the GOP.


BOO.

I thought you letter was great as was the video.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/29/2015 17:55:24
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Grunt. The Trib did not endorse the TriSec. Looks like I'm a victim of the media conspiracy, just like the GOP.


BOO.

I thought you letter was great as was the video.




They lack taste and sense if they didn't endorse you.

Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2015 18:43:30
This GOP debate was apparently watched in 10 million fewer homes than the first two.

Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 18:59:14
Quote by livingonli:
This GOP debate was apparently watched in 10 million fewer homes than the first two.
it was really horrible, Liv.




Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2015 19:00:03
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
This GOP debate was apparently watched in 10 million fewer homes than the first two.
it was really horrible, Liv.



I was at work and streaming game 2 of the World Series even with the Mets getting a horrible shellacking.

Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 19:00:21
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.


For a Princeton grad, he really doesn't know jack shit about world history. The diff between those two is closer to the difference between 'mainstream' Repubs and the Tea Party Caucus. It's all about the purity of the party.
I think he knows exactly what he did.

You're right regarding the history, I will grant that, but I think it was dog whistle BS to low information voters.


Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 19:01:26
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
This GOP debate was apparently watched in 10 million fewer homes than the first two.
it was really horrible, Liv.



I was at work and streaming game 2 of the World Series even with the Mets getting a horrible shellacking.
That was probably more fun.

Seriously, this was REALLY difficult to watch, and we ended up turning it off.

Comment by Raine on 10/29/2015 19:02:01
WOOT — my friend Imani is going to be on Democracy Now!


Comment by BobR on 10/29/2015 19:02:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.


For a Princeton grad, he really doesn't know jack shit about world history. The diff between those two is closer to the difference between 'mainstream' Repubs and the Tea Party Caucus. It's all about the purity of the party.
I think he knows exactly what he did.

You're right regarding the history, I will grant that, but I think it was dog whistle BS to low information voters.



Comment by livingonli on 10/29/2015 19:03:36
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.


For a Princeton grad, he really doesn't know jack shit about world history. The diff between those two is closer to the difference between 'mainstream' Repubs and the Tea Party Caucus. It's all about the purity of the party.
I think he knows exactly what he did.

You're right regarding the history, I will grant that, but I think it was dog whistle BS to low information voters.

It was indeed a dog whistle. So many righties seem to love lumping anyone even slightly left-of-center as a Commie as the GOP seems to be increasingly embracing Fascism.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2015 19:49:55
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.


For a Princeton grad, he really doesn't know jack shit about world history. The diff between those two is closer to the difference between 'mainstream' Repubs and the Tea Party Caucus. It's all about the purity of the party.
I think he knows exactly what he did.

You're right regarding the history, I will grant that, but I think it was dog whistle BS to low information voters.

It was indeed a dog whistle. So many righties seem to love lumping anyone even slightly left-of-center as a Commie as the GOP seems to be increasingly embracing Fascism.



I have to agree that this wasa dog whistle, appealing to conservative voters by using antiSemitism and the old 'liberals are communists' trope.

As for the GOP, I feel that their candidates pretty much want to just let the corporations to run everything.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/29/2015 20:28:48
Quote by Raine:
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.







Oh Teddy with the history references. Look at him being all smart n' shit.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/29/2015 21:02:21
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
A caller on Thom Hartmann just put to words about my feeling on something Ted Crus said at the debate. When he said it, Bob and I were kinda like 'WTF"

… she thought what he said was antisemetic. I think Cruise was hoping to dog whistle antisemistism myself.
QUINTANILLA: So, this is a question about (inaudible), which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.

CRUZ: Let me be clear. The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Mensheviks

Bolsheviks

Because it is just a incidence that Sanders is jewish.







Oh Teddy with the history references. Look at him being all smart n' shit.




Did Teddy consider this line of attack while separating his white sheets from his brown shirts?