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Petty, Unimaginative, Misguided Apostates
Author: velveeta jones
Date: 07/20/2008 12:33:08
PUMA. Haven't heard of them? Not really surprised, though they claim to have 18,000,000 of them in their group. No, Velveeta did not make a typo, that's 18 million. And, depending on who you talk to the letters stand either for: Party Unity My Ass or Party United Means Action. What they claim are 18,000,000 voters who plan to get Hillary Clinton elected one way or another. What they really are, may depend from one "PUMA cub” to the next. (Oh, did I forget to mention that they use words like cub, paws, growl, prowl and other “cat” type references throughout their blogs, emails, radio shows and merchandise). My goodness, it doesn't even sound like they are of voting age with all this jargon! The only thing missing is Hello Kitty! cartoons!
Velveeta was alerted to the PUMA phenomenon by Miss Raine's video post and then, using that ingenious "google", found reference to them from this blog. If you go read this blog, you'll see why I just had to run over and see what all the fuss was about. And also why I spent two nights lurking on a silly blog, compromising valuable time which could otherwise be spent on soiree's or relaxing rose petal baths, but I digress.
Yet on and on I read their babble; they claim to be Hillary supporters whose aim is to get their Goddess Hillary into the seat of power, at times becoming so redundant and overbearing that even Velveeta becomes overwhelmed and begins to walk lock-step with the drones of Hill-bots. There are daily mailings and phone calls to super-delegates and to other PUMA's, there are meet-ups and Television interviews (on their station of choice, FOX) and preparations for rallies and preparations for Denver and trying to get Donna Brazile to resign and smearing Howard Dean and ...........whew! When does a girl have time for sipping tea on the veranda!
(Thankfully, Velveeta is snapped back to reality by something that PUMA is sorely lacking: facts). Don’t get me wrong. I have a great respect for Hillary Clinton and I would not have hesitated to vote for her had she been the nominee. So why are these supporters so damn rabid? Should we, the Edwards supporters, feel obligated to remind John that he only “suspended” his run, and form some sort of PAC to raise money, we’d be called “bad sports” or worse.
Well, these PUMA’s are a PAC now, raising money for some purpose or another, again, it seems their goals may differ. Some want Hillary to be the nominee, others just want to screw the DNC and still others are, dare I say it: Wolves in PUMA clothing. You won’t have to look far to find a Republican.
Lets take a look-see into the world of PUMA. This is from the PUMA Blog run by Republican Darragh Murphy (will get back to her ‘R’ problem) whose “cubs”/acolytes refer to her solely as Murphy.
Does this not sound a tad threatening? I thought the Democratic party was more about the individual than the group? This is what has made us so welcoming and diverse. (And consequently the harder to agree with each other on where and what to focus our energies on). This sounds more like, well, um, Republicans! “Until the voices of Pumas are once again listened to by the leadership of the Democratic party, we will be guided by that defiance.” Excuse me? There are only 18 Million of you (allegedly) and the rest of us, the majority, are supposed to let you railroad us into selecting your choice?
The outset of the problem here is they have divided the Democratic Party in half. Those that support(ed) Hillary and those that support Obama. They ignore those, including myself, that supported Edwards, Richardson, Kucinich, Dodd, Biden, and yes, even those two that supported Gravel.
Hillary was treated unfairly? Ask Dennis Kucinich if he thinks Hillary got the shaft! My God, they wouldn’t even ask him serious questions in the debates, unless you’re counting those UFO questions as “serious”.
Obama was not my choice. Kerry was not my choice in 2004. Gore was not my choice in 2000. But I stuck with my party because I believed in their basic principles and I voted for (or tried to vote for) Gore and Kerry.
On the other hand, political contribution records show that “Murphy” supported John McCain in 2000, so we’ll assume that she stayed with her party and in 2000 voted for..........well, quite the opposite of Hillary Clinton!
But lets hear from some of the cubs and what they have to say on their blog. I’ll leave out any personal references even though they are anonymous - despite the fact that the PUMA group would not give the same courtesy. On the blog anyone who crosses them is promptly outed and slimed. Velveeta awaits the same fate.
Are they Republicans, expanding Rush's "Operation Chaos" to new extremes? You be the Judge. Here's a sampler of some of the milder postings:
The “left”? Whoops, your “right” is showing!
Um, okay. A “Democrat”, a progressive, is going to tune into FOX news to hear them talk about “biased media coverage”. Someone please alert Velveeta when that actually happens. I‘ll be checking to see if there‘s ice skating in Hell when it does.
And you casting your anonymous ballot for John McCain is going to teach the DNC a lesson, how?
Sigh. I could go on and on, but why?
My take on this group is that they are a combination of operatives, nuts and naiveté’s who don’t let small details like facts stand in the way of their mission. For some its the love of Hillary. (I tread into dangerous territory here, but I can’t stop the feeling that some of them like Hillary a tad too much, if you get what I’m saying). For others its sheer racism. And for others its simply love of their party: Republican.
Are there some genuine disenfranchised Hillary supporters? Absolutely, yes! And they have every right to be angry for their votes not counting in Florida and Michigan.
But again, those pesky “facts” keep popping up. Did Hillary say that she would abide by the rules set by the DNC? Yep. So, be mad that Hillary changed her mind (dare I say flip flopped) about it. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and screw-over the entire country, just because your state tried to circumvent the rules!
Here’s a few other facts which I have not heard one peep out of PUMA PAC (apologies to them if I missed it, but I don’t believe I have):
Nowhere have I seen anyone get upset over John McCain’s joke about a woman being raped by an ape. What kind of feminist would not be angered over that?
Never have I heard one mention of the fear that Roe v. Wade could be overturned by one single McCain SCOTUS appointment. What kind of mother would want that for her daughter?
Never once have I seen them concerned about remaining in this illegal occupation in Iraq for, as McCain once implied “100 years or more”. Where is the anger?
They are angry that Obama voted for FISA, yet fail to mention that he voted to strip the immunity as he’d promised (The Dodd Amendment). A vote that Clinton didn’t even bother to show up for! (Ted Kennedy, on the other hand, did manage to show up and vote for it, post brain surgery).
And one fact that seems overlooked. If these are indeed 18 Million HRC supporters, couldn’t they easily retire Hillary’s debt by only each donating a mere $1.25 or so? Seems like a small amount, the cost of a New York Times, for an out of state progressive. Ahem.
And as for those legitimate Hillary supporters who’ve joined this PAC because they sincerely want to see Clinton become the nominee? Well, it seems they have found true “pumas”, Rove-like predators, that have them in their teeth and claws and gotten them to do their bidding: GETTING A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
Velveeta was alerted to the PUMA phenomenon by Miss Raine's video post and then, using that ingenious "google", found reference to them from this blog. If you go read this blog, you'll see why I just had to run over and see what all the fuss was about. And also why I spent two nights lurking on a silly blog, compromising valuable time which could otherwise be spent on soiree's or relaxing rose petal baths, but I digress.
Yet on and on I read their babble; they claim to be Hillary supporters whose aim is to get their Goddess Hillary into the seat of power, at times becoming so redundant and overbearing that even Velveeta becomes overwhelmed and begins to walk lock-step with the drones of Hill-bots. There are daily mailings and phone calls to super-delegates and to other PUMA's, there are meet-ups and Television interviews (on their station of choice, FOX) and preparations for rallies and preparations for Denver and trying to get Donna Brazile to resign and smearing Howard Dean and ...........whew! When does a girl have time for sipping tea on the veranda!
(Thankfully, Velveeta is snapped back to reality by something that PUMA is sorely lacking: facts). Don’t get me wrong. I have a great respect for Hillary Clinton and I would not have hesitated to vote for her had she been the nominee. So why are these supporters so damn rabid? Should we, the Edwards supporters, feel obligated to remind John that he only “suspended” his run, and form some sort of PAC to raise money, we’d be called “bad sports” or worse.
Well, these PUMA’s are a PAC now, raising money for some purpose or another, again, it seems their goals may differ. Some want Hillary to be the nominee, others just want to screw the DNC and still others are, dare I say it: Wolves in PUMA clothing. You won’t have to look far to find a Republican.
Lets take a look-see into the world of PUMA. This is from the PUMA Blog run by Republican Darragh Murphy (will get back to her ‘R’ problem) whose “cubs”/acolytes refer to her solely as Murphy.
Puma PAC is a political action committee organized in June 2008. We are registered as a non-affiliated Political Action Committee (PAC) with the Federal Election Commission and have organized as a 527 Organization with the Internal Revenue Service. This is our official website and blog. You may know that there is another, more defiant meaning for the acronym P.U.M.A. and that many of us are motivated by a deep disgust with and distrust of the DNC leadership. There will be no unity in the Democratic party until the voices of the 18 million voters who support Hillary Clinton are heard and heeded. Until the voices of Pumas are once again listened to by the leadership of the Democratic party, we will be guided by that defiance. We will treat insult with uprightness and will meet disdain with disdain. We will not be bullied, brainwashed, or bossed into falling in line.
Does this not sound a tad threatening? I thought the Democratic party was more about the individual than the group? This is what has made us so welcoming and diverse. (And consequently the harder to agree with each other on where and what to focus our energies on). This sounds more like, well, um, Republicans! “Until the voices of Pumas are once again listened to by the leadership of the Democratic party, we will be guided by that defiance.” Excuse me? There are only 18 Million of you (allegedly) and the rest of us, the majority, are supposed to let you railroad us into selecting your choice?
The outset of the problem here is they have divided the Democratic Party in half. Those that support(ed) Hillary and those that support Obama. They ignore those, including myself, that supported Edwards, Richardson, Kucinich, Dodd, Biden, and yes, even those two that supported Gravel.
Hillary was treated unfairly? Ask Dennis Kucinich if he thinks Hillary got the shaft! My God, they wouldn’t even ask him serious questions in the debates, unless you’re counting those UFO questions as “serious”.
Obama was not my choice. Kerry was not my choice in 2004. Gore was not my choice in 2000. But I stuck with my party because I believed in their basic principles and I voted for (or tried to vote for) Gore and Kerry.
On the other hand, political contribution records show that “Murphy” supported John McCain in 2000, so we’ll assume that she stayed with her party and in 2000 voted for..........well, quite the opposite of Hillary Clinton!
But lets hear from some of the cubs and what they have to say on their blog. I’ll leave out any personal references even though they are anonymous - despite the fact that the PUMA group would not give the same courtesy. On the blog anyone who crosses them is promptly outed and slimed. Velveeta awaits the same fate.
Are they Republicans, expanding Rush's "Operation Chaos" to new extremes? You be the Judge. Here's a sampler of some of the milder postings:
Do you know where I can get a bumper sticker that says Dem’s for McCain, or Hillary for McCain, or something like that? I forget where I saw them.
The left is going nuclear over the New Yorker cover! HILLarious!
The “left”? Whoops, your “right” is showing!
Gonna sign off now and listen to fox talk about the biased media coverage. Hope that they mention that it started with HRC long before McCain. Oooh…[FOXnews saying] “there’s no question that the networks are compeltely in Barack Obama’s camp.” I’m liking it! [sic]
Um, okay. A “Democrat”, a progressive, is going to tune into FOX news to hear them talk about “biased media coverage”. Someone please alert Velveeta when that actually happens. I‘ll be checking to see if there‘s ice skating in Hell when it does.
We are just sick with the disgusting bias of our current democratic party…WHAT A JOKE!!!!!! WE WILL NEVER, NEVER, NEVER VOTE FOR BO…..Not a chance in Hell……If Hillary is not the one running against McCain then I and my family and friends will be voting for McCain… for the primary reason to prevent BO from ever becomming President…That’s a Joke in itself [sic]
I’m an Independent as well and would rather vote for him [McCain] than Obama just to teach the DNC a lesson in true democracy. We The People rule, not them.
And you casting your anonymous ballot for John McCain is going to teach the DNC a lesson, how?
Sigh. I could go on and on, but why?
My take on this group is that they are a combination of operatives, nuts and naiveté’s who don’t let small details like facts stand in the way of their mission. For some its the love of Hillary. (I tread into dangerous territory here, but I can’t stop the feeling that some of them like Hillary a tad too much, if you get what I’m saying). For others its sheer racism. And for others its simply love of their party: Republican.
Are there some genuine disenfranchised Hillary supporters? Absolutely, yes! And they have every right to be angry for their votes not counting in Florida and Michigan.
But again, those pesky “facts” keep popping up. Did Hillary say that she would abide by the rules set by the DNC? Yep. So, be mad that Hillary changed her mind (dare I say flip flopped) about it. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and screw-over the entire country, just because your state tried to circumvent the rules!
Here’s a few other facts which I have not heard one peep out of PUMA PAC (apologies to them if I missed it, but I don’t believe I have):
Nowhere have I seen anyone get upset over John McCain’s joke about a woman being raped by an ape. What kind of feminist would not be angered over that?
Never have I heard one mention of the fear that Roe v. Wade could be overturned by one single McCain SCOTUS appointment. What kind of mother would want that for her daughter?
Never once have I seen them concerned about remaining in this illegal occupation in Iraq for, as McCain once implied “100 years or more”. Where is the anger?
They are angry that Obama voted for FISA, yet fail to mention that he voted to strip the immunity as he’d promised (The Dodd Amendment). A vote that Clinton didn’t even bother to show up for! (Ted Kennedy, on the other hand, did manage to show up and vote for it, post brain surgery).
And one fact that seems overlooked. If these are indeed 18 Million HRC supporters, couldn’t they easily retire Hillary’s debt by only each donating a mere $1.25 or so? Seems like a small amount, the cost of a New York Times, for an out of state progressive. Ahem.
And as for those legitimate Hillary supporters who’ve joined this PAC because they sincerely want to see Clinton become the nominee? Well, it seems they have found true “pumas”, Rove-like predators, that have them in their teeth and claws and gotten them to do their bidding: GETTING A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
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Comment by 
capt on 07/20/2008 12:39:20
capt on 07/20/2008 12:39:20
Good Morning!
(Let her in is on the last thread)
Great post, I can't take the PUMA's and DINOS seriously.
Anger on left: Obama shifts to the center
I say let the hill shills, PUMA's and whomsoever vote for McCain - They are not democrats or progresssives.
(Let her in is on the last thread)
Great post, I can't take the PUMA's and DINOS seriously.
Anger on left: Obama shifts to the center
Activists' choices
Barbara O'Connor, a longtime observer of California politics and a Democrat, said Democratic groups are coming around to Obama, including feminist activists who backed Hillary Clinton.
"All those bloggers from California - where are they going to go, vote for McCain?" asked O'Connor, who heads the Institute for the Study of Politics and the Media at California State University-Sacramento.
O'Connor points to a Field Poll, released Wednesday, that shows Obama with a 24-point lead in the state, and the backing of 80 percent of Clinton supporters (8 percent favored McCain). Three times as many Obama voters (51 percent) as McCain voters (17 percent) said they were "very enthusiastic" about their candidate.
As of June, there has been no drop-off in donations. The Obama campaign took in $52 million last month.
I say let the hill shills, PUMA's and whomsoever vote for McCain - They are not democrats or progresssives.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 12:42:57
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 12:42:57
Good morning velveeta!
As far as the only PUMA I've heard, on Stephanie's show (Adela?, or something like that) the first time I heard her I thought "Operation Chaos" and when she started spewing the PUMA crap I felt that my first impression was correct.
Yup, even with the $ as worthless as it is - just $1 from each of those 18 MILLION would retire a significant amount of Hillary's debt.
They've got about as much brains as Peter Puma - "oh give me a whole lotta lumps"
As far as the only PUMA I've heard, on Stephanie's show (Adela?, or something like that) the first time I heard her I thought "Operation Chaos" and when she started spewing the PUMA crap I felt that my first impression was correct.
Yup, even with the $ as worthless as it is - just $1 from each of those 18 MILLION would retire a significant amount of Hillary's debt.
They've got about as much brains as Peter Puma - "oh give me a whole lotta lumps"
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 12:50:51
Too funny!
capt on 07/20/2008 12:50:51
They've got about as much brains as Peter Puma - "oh give me a whole lotta lumps"
Too funny!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:03:10
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:03:10
Morning capt
Another day at work, another waiting 10 minutes to get 3 good pieces of paper out of the printer after clearing 3 paper jams.
Wife went to "Despison Tireless" (thanks Mama) yesterday under the guise of getting ME a new phone, well of course it was to get HER a new phone and oh by the way I got one as well. Dunno if I like it yet, the new LG does have a better camera, it handles voice commands better and the internal keyboard will make texting easier, but it won't work as a handsfree with my TomTom like my old Motorola phone did. I did figure out last night how to get my own ringtones into it so it now has the Pink Panther theme. I'll be working on finding a proper LSoC ringtone maybe tonight. ;)
Miserably humid outside today - 65 degrees 40% humidity inside
Another day at work, another waiting 10 minutes to get 3 good pieces of paper out of the printer after clearing 3 paper jams.
Wife went to "Despison Tireless" (thanks Mama) yesterday under the guise of getting ME a new phone, well of course it was to get HER a new phone and oh by the way I got one as well. Dunno if I like it yet, the new LG does have a better camera, it handles voice commands better and the internal keyboard will make texting easier, but it won't work as a handsfree with my TomTom like my old Motorola phone did. I did figure out last night how to get my own ringtones into it so it now has the Pink Panther theme. I'll be working on finding a proper LSoC ringtone maybe tonight. ;)
Miserably humid outside today - 65 degrees 40% humidity inside
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 13:14:04
capt on 07/20/2008 13:14:04
I have never had a cell phone - we have T-Mobile for Joy.
I always thought T-mobile should have an "A" named service so we could get T&A!
I always thought T-mobile should have an "A" named service so we could get T&A!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:19:05
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:19:05
Have had a cell phone since the old RadioShack bag phone days, before that wife and I used to talk to each other via ham radio in the cars - of course that was nowhere near as private, but in other ways it was better because friends would join in and it became a daily thing for the commute to have a group chatting. The coming of the cell phone has pretty much killed that. :(
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 13:30:19
Working on Sunday? Bummer!
capt on 07/20/2008 13:30:19
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Have had a cell phone since the old RadioShack bag phone days, before that wife and I used to talk to each other via ham radio in the cars - of course that was nowhere near as private, but in other ways it was better because friends would join in and it became a daily thing for the commute to have a group chatting. The coming of the cell phone has pretty much killed that. :(
Working on Sunday? Bummer!
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 13:33:15
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 13:33:15
Thanks ya'll. I await the scourge of the Puma Pac(k) to attack me! They are like the Klan and Scientologists in that respect. 
Watching the *real* #43 - Al Gore - on MTP. He sounds so good!!
Watching the *real* #43 - Al Gore - on MTP. He sounds so good!!
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 13:37:21
PUMA Pac(k) - there are really only about 12 of them, we'll kick their arse!
capt on 07/20/2008 13:37:21
Quote by velveeta jones:
Thanks ya'll. I await the scourge of the Puma Pac(k) to attack me! They are like the Klan and Scientologists in that respect.
Watching the *real* #43 - Al Gore - on MTP. He sounds so good!!
PUMA Pac(k) - there are really only about 12 of them, we'll kick their arse!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:37:31
Oh, I'll happily take the OT when it's offered. Car needs a new O2 sensor.....
Next week is the annual family "Birthday Bash". Instead of having birthday parties for the family rugrats all year, we all go to an amusement park for a weekend. It's Six Flags New England next week. Since we don't have kids I'm pretty much the videographer. I promise not to get decapitated by the Batman coaster.
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:37:31
Quote by capt:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Have had a cell phone since the old RadioShack bag phone days, before that wife and I used to talk to each other via ham radio in the cars - of course that was nowhere near as private, but in other ways it was better because friends would join in and it became a daily thing for the commute to have a group chatting. The coming of the cell phone has pretty much killed that. :(
Working on Sunday? Bummer!
:kickcan:
Oh, I'll happily take the OT when it's offered. Car needs a new O2 sensor.....
Next week is the annual family "Birthday Bash". Instead of having birthday parties for the family rugrats all year, we all go to an amusement park for a weekend. It's Six Flags New England next week. Since we don't have kids I'm pretty much the videographer. I promise not to get decapitated by the Batman coaster.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:40:54
That many? - I was thinking more on the lines of a 6 pack
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 13:40:54
Quote by capt:Quote by velveeta jones:
Thanks ya'll. I await the scourge of the Puma Pac(k) to attack me! They are like the Klan and Scientologists in that respect.
Watching the *real* #43 - Al Gore - on MTP. He sounds so good!!
PUMA Pac(k) - there are really only about 12 of them, we'll kick their arse!
That many? - I was thinking more on the lines of a 6 pack
Comment by 
clintster on 07/20/2008 13:56:35
clintster on 07/20/2008 13:56:35
Ah yes, the PUMAs. I've checked in and out on the H-is-44 site a few times, and it seems like the breakdown there is about 50% Farkers who are just acting sincere in order to stir the pudding, about 40% who are Republicans still desperately hoping to give Rush his dream of a riot in Denver, and the remaining 10% being true believers who haven't realized that the party's over, the lights are out, the hosts have gone to bed, and Richard Marx is playing on the stereo.
BTW, here's the Pete Puma cartoon; the tea begins about the 3:00 mark.
BTW, here's the Pete Puma cartoon; the tea begins about the 3:00 mark.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 14:05:36
Clintster
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 14:05:36
Clintster
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 14:12:55
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 14:12:55
OMG. I does love me the bunny!! I used to have all of the great old ones on VHS (remember those?). I wish WB would release them, un-edited, on DVD.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 14:16:17
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 14:16:17
btw, one thing that might make some of those legitimate, but naive, Puma's do the right thing will be for Barack Obama to debate John McCain so they can really compare and contrast. I think its time to take on the town hall challenge that McCain was stupid enough to propose!
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 14:18:09
capt on 07/20/2008 14:18:09
And yet nobody was expecting . . .
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 14:22:33
capt on 07/20/2008 14:22:33
I can't wait to see the two on the same stage. No words need to be spoken to provide the contrasts.
I hope McCain gets all red faced in a debate and starts blubbering - or nods off - either one will be stellar!
McCain is 5"7' (or less) . . .
It will be like crypt-keeper versus Samuel L Jackson . . .
Maybe more Denzil Washington versus Orvil Reddenbacher
I hope McCain gets all red faced in a debate and starts blubbering - or nods off - either one will be stellar!
McCain is 5"7' (or less) . . .
It will be like crypt-keeper versus Samuel L Jackson . . .
Maybe more Denzil Washington versus Orvil Reddenbacher
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 14:32:40
Yes. Diabolical laughing and diabolical acting.
Cardinal! The RACK!!!!
Yeah, I know this bit's about the comfy chair, but I like the rack better.
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 14:32:40
Quote by capt:
And yet nobody was expecting . . .
Yes. Diabolical laughing and diabolical acting.
Cardinal! The RACK!!!!
Yeah, I know this bit's about the comfy chair, but I like the rack better.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 15:10:49
capt on 07/20/2008 15:10:49
Catching a little MTP - W/ Gore.
One thing people don't speak of? We could justify deficit spending if it is for infrastructure, solar, wind, getting off oil will PAY a dividend and we have no choice.
The idea that deficit spending for insane military blunders is somehow comparable to lending ourselves money to help our country is like comparing apples to atom bombs.
UGH!
Al sounds good as usual. Better now than when he was a candidate.
One thing people don't speak of? We could justify deficit spending if it is for infrastructure, solar, wind, getting off oil will PAY a dividend and we have no choice.
The idea that deficit spending for insane military blunders is somehow comparable to lending ourselves money to help our country is like comparing apples to atom bombs.
UGH!
Al sounds good as usual. Better now than when he was a candidate.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 15:16:42
capt on 07/20/2008 15:16:42
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 15:21:41
capt on 07/20/2008 15:21:41
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/20/2008 15:30:44
livingonli on 07/20/2008 15:30:44
Good morning everyone. Today starts my vacation and two days until I head for Vegas.
With my new AD duties at work, if it's a busy night I don't get time to blog. The one drawback is when you are doing multiple games you sit in the chair for so many hours and then when you finally get up, you feel like an old man.
With my new AD duties at work, if it's a busy night I don't get time to blog. The one drawback is when you are doing multiple games you sit in the chair for so many hours and then when you finally get up, you feel like an old man.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 15:31:51
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 15:31:51
Cardinal! Give the rack oh dear....Give the rack....a turn.
I...I...I..
I know, I didn't want to say anything. I just wanted to ignore your crass mistake. This all seems so stupid!
Shall I....
OH JUST PRETEND for God's sake!!!
Sorta from memory since I can't YouTube from work.....:(
I...I...I..
I know, I didn't want to say anything. I just wanted to ignore your crass mistake. This all seems so stupid!
Shall I....
OH JUST PRETEND for God's sake!!!
Sorta from memory since I can't YouTube from work.....:(
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 15:37:14
Nailed it - I just watched it and I couldn't recite that!
capt on 07/20/2008 15:37:14
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Cardinal! Give the rack oh dear....Give the rack....a turn.
I...I...I..
I know, I didn't want to say anything. I just wanted to ignore your crass mistake. This all seems so stupid!
Shall I....
OH JUST PRETEND for God's sake!!!
Sorta from memory since I can't YouTube from work.....:(
Nailed it - I just watched it and I couldn't recite that!
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 15:38:36
Actually, they have. There have been several DVD collections released as The Looney Tunes Golden Collection
When Warner Bros. regained the TV rights to all the cartoons, they shifted them from Cartoon Network to Boomerang and now Boomerang doesn't even run them anymore although they run some of the crappy H-B cartoons from the 80's. They had the marathon in June when they used to run nearly every Bugs Bunny cartoon made (they removed the ones with the racial stereotypes).
livingonli on 07/20/2008 15:38:36
Quote by velveeta jones:
OMG. I does love me the bunny!! I used to have all of the great old ones on VHS (remember those?). I wish WB would release them, un-edited, on DVD.
Actually, they have. There have been several DVD collections released as The Looney Tunes Golden Collection
When Warner Bros. regained the TV rights to all the cartoons, they shifted them from Cartoon Network to Boomerang and now Boomerang doesn't even run them anymore although they run some of the crappy H-B cartoons from the 80's. They had the marathon in June when they used to run nearly every Bugs Bunny cartoon made (they removed the ones with the racial stereotypes).
Comment by 
Raine on 07/20/2008 15:56:21
Raine on 07/20/2008 15:56:21
(is it still morning?)
Good Morning Everyone!!!
Excellent Sunday Read, Ms. Jones. Dare I say that was as GOOD as any column I might read in say ... the NYT?
Good Morning Everyone!!!
Excellent Sunday Read, Ms. Jones. Dare I say that was as GOOD as any column I might read in say ... the NYT?
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 15:57:13
capt on 07/20/2008 15:57:13
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 15:58:31
as GOOD ???
Dare I say BETTER! But I might be a little prejudiced.
capt on 07/20/2008 15:58:31
Quote by Raine:
(is it still morning?)
Good Morning Everyone!!!
Excellent Sunday Read, Ms. Jones. Dare I say that was as GOOD as any column I might read in say ... the NYT?
as GOOD ???
Dare I say BETTER! But I might be a little prejudiced.
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 16:03:17
livingonli on 07/20/2008 16:03:17
Good morning Raine. How are things in the ATL this weekend?
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 16:06:29
capt on 07/20/2008 16:06:29
Comment by 
Random on 07/20/2008 16:09:31
Random feel better today.
Random on 07/20/2008 16:09:31
Random feel better today.
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 16:12:04
livingonli on 07/20/2008 16:12:04
All hail Random.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 16:17:05
:bow:
capt on 07/20/2008 16:17:05
Quote by livingonli:
All hail Random.
:bow:
Comment by Random on 07/20/2008 16:18:57
Random on 07/20/2008 16:18:57
Glad to have my subjects at my call...
*throws cookies*
*throws cookies*
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 16:20:14
:bow:
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 16:20:14
Quote by capt:Quote by livingonli:
All hail Random.
:bow:
:bow:
Comment by 
BobR on 07/20/2008 16:24:33
BobR on 07/20/2008 16:24:33
Fabulous blog this morning Velveeta - I will be forwarding links to everyone I know...
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 16:26:21
Raine on 07/20/2008 16:26:21
BTW, for those that have Digg accounts, if you like this blog, digg it!
(same for the farkers and the flaven out there.)
(same for the farkers and the flaven out there.)
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 16:29:01
capt on 07/20/2008 16:29:01
Comment by clintster on 07/20/2008 16:34:11
clintster on 07/20/2008 16:34:11
I think this might be THE definition of schadenfreude: a PUMA protest calling on Donna Brazile to resign from the Obama campaign.
Comment by Random on 07/20/2008 16:34:28
All i see is cemetary...
Random on 07/20/2008 16:34:28
Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
All i see is cemetary...
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 16:37:13
From the article :
capt on 07/20/2008 16:37:13
Quote by Random:Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
All i see is cemetary...
From the article :
al Qaeda Commentary? al Qaeda Cemetary? al Qaeda Documentary? Who knows? But it’s not accidental. In fact, Alex Castellanos is reportedly now working for the McCain campaign.
Comment by Random on 07/20/2008 16:39:03
I read the article...doesn't mean i see it.
Random on 07/20/2008 16:39:03
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
All i see is cemetary...
From the article :al Qaeda Commentary? al Qaeda Cemetary? al Qaeda Documentary? Who knows? But it’s not accidental. In fact, Alex Castellanos is reportedly now working for the McCain campaign.
I read the article...doesn't mean i see it.
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 16:39:47
sonofbiatch....
That is no mistake.
Raine on 07/20/2008 16:39:47
Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
That is no mistake.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 16:42:32
Point is it doesn't matter what you see, whatever is there is no accident. It is more sleazy crud from the Reich-wingnut side if you ask me.
capt on 07/20/2008 16:42:32
Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
All i see is cemetary...
From the article :al Qaeda Commentary? al Qaeda Cemetary? al Qaeda Documentary? Who knows? But it’s not accidental. In fact, Alex Castellanos is reportedly now working for the McCain campaign.
I read the article...doesn't mean i see it.
Point is it doesn't matter what you see, whatever is there is no accident. It is more sleazy crud from the Reich-wingnut side if you ask me.
Comment by Random on 07/20/2008 16:47:19
...If i don't see it, it's just a random selection of letters. Sure it's just not over active imagination?
Random on 07/20/2008 16:47:19
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:Quote by Random:Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
All i see is cemetary...
From the article :al Qaeda Commentary? al Qaeda Cemetary? al Qaeda Documentary? Who knows? But it’s not accidental. In fact, Alex Castellanos is reportedly now working for the McCain campaign.
I read the article...doesn't mean i see it.
Point is it doesn't matter what you see, whatever is there is no accident. It is more sleazy crud from the Reich-wingnut side if you ask me.
...If i don't see it, it's just a random selection of letters. Sure it's just not over active imagination?
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 16:51:19
Yeah, I sure it is that.
capt on 07/20/2008 16:51:19
...If i don't see it, it's just a random selection of letters. Sure it's just not over active imagination?
Yeah, I sure it is that.
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 16:52:02
Raine on 07/20/2008 16:52:02
Not with this guy Random. It's Subliminibinible... 
Subliminal Messaging is a common thing used in all advertising it is done on purpose, and it isn't there to be noticed, usually. It was a good catch by Jed Report.
Subliminal Messaging is a common thing used in all advertising it is done on purpose, and it isn't there to be noticed, usually. It was a good catch by Jed Report.
Comment by clintster on 07/20/2008 16:54:28
Another "loverly" point of contention that I have with this ad is that the first four letters in the still below spell out the name "Ba'al", which was the Old Testament god of the Philistines. A nice little sleazy subliminal message that 1) reminds evangelicals that Obama might do something rash like really work towards a solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and 2) pokes fun at Democrats for their supposed Messiah-worship regarding Barack (as if the last eight years of Bush-fluffing never happened).
clintster on 07/20/2008 16:54:28
Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
Another "loverly" point of contention that I have with this ad is that the first four letters in the still below spell out the name "Ba'al", which was the Old Testament god of the Philistines. A nice little sleazy subliminal message that 1) reminds evangelicals that Obama might do something rash like really work towards a solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and 2) pokes fun at Democrats for their supposed Messiah-worship regarding Barack (as if the last eight years of Bush-fluffing never happened).
Comment by Random on 07/20/2008 16:56:05
I was under the impression that Subliminal messages don't really work.
Random on 07/20/2008 16:56:05
Quote by Raine:
Not with this guy Random. It's Subliminibinible...
Subliminal Messaging is a common thing used in all advertising it is done on purpose, and it isn't there to be noticed, usually. It was a good catch by Jed Report.
I was under the impression that Subliminal messages don't really work.
Comment by BobR on 07/20/2008 17:03:43
BobR on 07/20/2008 17:03:43
Saw this on the Digg labeled "The Worst Batman squirt toy EVER"...
Comment by Random on 07/20/2008 17:08:04
Random on 07/20/2008 17:08:04
Looking at the ad, i'd say it's much worse in the fact that it's distorting Obama's positions, by pulling quotes out of Time and context. The fact is, those letters aren't going to put anything into peoples minds, because it's too abstract, and people may actually get confused because of the extra T B a before what people are seeing as the secret message...
People seem a bit to wound up at nothing.
People seem a bit to wound up at nothing.
Comment by clintster on 07/20/2008 17:08:33
clintster on 07/20/2008 17:08:33
Quote by BobR:
Saw this on the Digg labeled "The Worst Batman squirt toy EVER"...
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 17:12:45
Raine on 07/20/2008 17:12:45
Subliminal Advertising Experiment.
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 17:19:15
Raine on 07/20/2008 17:19:15
Now this IS Coolness...
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 17:22:38
capt on 07/20/2008 17:22:38
What is up on the youtubes?
Been giving me trouble for days. I get the message the video in no longer available then I try again it will play. On some youtubes I get the message that I need to update my flash player even though it is up to date.
Is it just me?
(and what is up with the wide blog? Very Larry Craig like)
Been giving me trouble for days. I get the message the video in no longer available then I try again it will play. On some youtubes I get the message that I need to update my flash player even though it is up to date.
Is it just me?
(and what is up with the wide blog? Very Larry Craig like)
Comment by BobR on 07/20/2008 17:24:57
That. Is. Fucking. AMAZING... :thud:
BobR on 07/20/2008 17:24:57
Quote by Raine:
Subliminal Advertising Experiment.
That. Is. Fucking. AMAZING... :thud:
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 17:34:35
I just noticed where the plug was !!!
Raine on 07/20/2008 17:34:35
Quote by clintster:Quote by BobR:
Saw this on the Digg labeled "The Worst Batman squirt toy EVER"...
Comment by BobR on 07/20/2008 17:35:02
You compare this to Bush meeting with the troops and the difference is striking. With Obama, you get the impression he is genuinely interested in the soldiers; with Bush, you get the impression he feels he is doing the soldiers a favor just by being there.
Obama is there to see the troops, and Bush is there so the troops can see him.
BobR on 07/20/2008 17:35:02
Quote by Raine:
Now this IS Coolness...
You compare this to Bush meeting with the troops and the difference is striking. With Obama, you get the impression he is genuinely interested in the soldiers; with Bush, you get the impression he feels he is doing the soldiers a favor just by being there.
Obama is there to see the troops, and Bush is there so the troops can see him.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 17:37:16
What BobR said!
Amazing stuff!
I wonder if anybody ever thought to do that kind of a thing through the M$M?
I hope not, that would be mass manipulation on a scale that could effect elections and the direction of our country as a whole. It could sell us on poor politicians and unjust and illegal wars? (55 million voted for Bush a second time? really?)
I hope someone is checking for that. The only real problem is if the subliminal message is effectively subliminal no one will ever see it. UGH!
capt on 07/20/2008 17:37:16
Subliminal Advertising Experiment.
What BobR said!
Amazing stuff!
I wonder if anybody ever thought to do that kind of a thing through the M$M?
I hope not, that would be mass manipulation on a scale that could effect elections and the direction of our country as a whole. It could sell us on poor politicians and unjust and illegal wars? (55 million voted for Bush a second time? really?)
I hope someone is checking for that. The only real problem is if the subliminal message is effectively subliminal no one will ever see it. UGH!
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 18:01:19
capt on 07/20/2008 18:01:19
I imagine with a trillion dollar war at stake someone stands to make enough to pour a few hundred million into conditioning the message, using specific images and language to make some people think they are thinking for themselves when they are being lead like a herd of lemmings over a cliff by voting against their own self interests. This is what I think Fox news (and others) have been doing for years.
If a certain outcome can be set up so easily why wouldn't GE, CNN, Fox, etc. pay for it? When the corporate interests are always profits what would stop them from doing so, ethics?
*Back to triple layer tin foil hat*
If a certain outcome can be set up so easily why wouldn't GE, CNN, Fox, etc. pay for it? When the corporate interests are always profits what would stop them from doing so, ethics?
*Back to triple layer tin foil hat*
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 18:13:35
Insert your own bad joke about Batman and Robin here. That's just wrong.
livingonli on 07/20/2008 18:13:35
Quote by Raine:I just noticed where the plug was !!!Quote by clintster:Quote by BobR:
Saw this on the Digg labeled "The Worst Batman squirt toy EVER"...
Insert your own bad joke about Batman and Robin here. That's just wrong.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 18:18:27
capt on 07/20/2008 18:18:27
Those pants make Batman's butt look big!
Squeezing the trigger takes on a whole new meaning with that squirt-gun.
Squeezing the trigger takes on a whole new meaning with that squirt-gun.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 18:19:32
trojanrabbit on 07/20/2008 18:19:32
Where does it say that thing is made in?
The Bat-squirt-toy lost the bat-plug from its bat-butt.
The Bat-squirt-toy lost the bat-plug from its bat-butt.
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 18:21:10
Raine on 07/20/2008 18:21:10
Capt... it's all psychological, you know... It's all in your head... 
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 18:25:25
OMG - OMG - OMG *Spinning around* Get it out! It's making me psycho!
capt on 07/20/2008 18:25:25
Quote by Raine:
Capt... it's all psychological, you know... It's all in your head...
OMG - OMG - OMG *Spinning around* Get it out! It's making me psycho!
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 18:26:10
Thanks, looks like they have some older ones now. For awhile you couldn't find anything older than 1960 or so.
Just in time for Velveeta's Birthday.
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 18:26:10
Quote by livingonli:Quote by velveeta jones:
OMG. I does love me the bunny!! I used to have all of the great old ones on VHS (remember those?). I wish WB would release them, un-edited, on DVD.
Actually, they have. There have been several DVD collections released as The Looney Tunes Golden Collection
When Warner Bros. regained the TV rights to all the cartoons, they shifted them from Cartoon Network to Boomerang and now Boomerang doesn't even run them anymore although they run some of the crappy H-B cartoons from the 80's. They had the marathon in June when they used to run nearly every Bugs Bunny cartoon made (they removed the ones with the racial stereotypes).
Thanks, looks like they have some older ones now. For awhile you couldn't find anything older than 1960 or so.
Just in time for Velveeta's Birthday.
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 18:31:02
Raine on 07/20/2008 18:31:02
OMG, he REALLY IS an elitist!!
[...]
So what's the record? As a high school student, Obama's first job was at a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store. He also has mentioned he worked construction. And we know about the famous summer job between his second and third years of law school at Sidley Austin in Chicago, where he met Michelle, who was already at the firm. The summer before, Obama worked at Hopkins & Sutter, a law firm in Chicago.
Here's what we know for the first time, with information passed on from the Obama campaign in response to my inquiries: As a college student at Occidental in Southern California, Obama returned home to Hawaii the summer after freshman year to sell island trinkets in a gift shop. Obama also had a summertime job at a deli counter in Hawaii -- making sandwiches.
Once in New York to attend Columbia, one summer Obama worked for a private company holding a contract to process health records of either police or firefighters; I'm not sure exactly what he did.
During one school year at Columbia, Obama was a telemarketer in midtown Manhattan selling New York Times subscriptions over the phone, wearing a headset. He did not like the job because "he worried that some of the people he called couldn't really afford the subscription."
[...]
So what's the record? As a high school student, Obama's first job was at a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store. He also has mentioned he worked construction. And we know about the famous summer job between his second and third years of law school at Sidley Austin in Chicago, where he met Michelle, who was already at the firm. The summer before, Obama worked at Hopkins & Sutter, a law firm in Chicago.
Here's what we know for the first time, with information passed on from the Obama campaign in response to my inquiries: As a college student at Occidental in Southern California, Obama returned home to Hawaii the summer after freshman year to sell island trinkets in a gift shop. Obama also had a summertime job at a deli counter in Hawaii -- making sandwiches.
Once in New York to attend Columbia, one summer Obama worked for a private company holding a contract to process health records of either police or firefighters; I'm not sure exactly what he did.
During one school year at Columbia, Obama was a telemarketer in midtown Manhattan selling New York Times subscriptions over the phone, wearing a headset. He did not like the job because "he worried that some of the people he called couldn't really afford the subscription."
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 18:43:44
livingonli on 07/20/2008 18:43:44
How dare that elitist fancy pants actually work menial jobs for a living instead of getting everything handed to him on a silver platter.
Comment by BobR on 07/20/2008 18:52:32
Baskin & Robbins??? That's fancy-pants elitist ice cream!!
BobR on 07/20/2008 18:52:32
Quote by Raine:
OMG, he REALLY IS an elitist!!
[...]
So what's the record? As a high school student, Obama's first job was at a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store. He also has mentioned he worked construction. And we know about the famous summer job between his second and third years of law school at Sidley Austin in Chicago, where he met Michelle, who was already at the firm. The summer before, Obama worked at Hopkins & Sutter, a law firm in Chicago.
Here's what we know for the first time, with information passed on from the Obama campaign in response to my inquiries: As a college student at Occidental in Southern California, Obama returned home to Hawaii the summer after freshman year to sell island trinkets in a gift shop. Obama also had a summertime job at a deli counter in Hawaii -- making sandwiches.
Once in New York to attend Columbia, one summer Obama worked for a private company holding a contract to process health records of either police or firefighters; I'm not sure exactly what he did.
During one school year at Columbia, Obama was a telemarketer in midtown Manhattan selling New York Times subscriptions over the phone, wearing a headset. He did not like the job because "he worried that some of the people he called couldn't really afford the subscription."
Baskin & Robbins??? That's fancy-pants elitist ice cream!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 19:02:20
Um, I don't get it? The right is saying that the filmmaker is making an Al Q commentary? But he's a member of the right!
My God, they are getting harder and harder to follow. Lets see, if a rightwing strategist makes a film, he can say that is own title is really an Obama secret message?
I'm totally confused. :thud:
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 19:02:20
Quote by capt:
Subliminal Message In McCain’s New Ad?
(Did I mention nothing is below these slugs?)
Grrrrrrr
Um, I don't get it? The right is saying that the filmmaker is making an Al Q commentary? But he's a member of the right!
My God, they are getting harder and harder to follow. Lets see, if a rightwing strategist makes a film, he can say that is own title is really an Obama secret message?
I'm totally confused. :thud:
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 19:09:01
livingonli on 07/20/2008 19:09:01
With the Extra Innings Free Preview I have access to both the Nationals and Braves feed of today's game. Me being a channel hopper that I am like to flip through the outer market feeds.
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 19:14:14
Raine on 07/20/2008 19:14:14
Someone figured out the Insurance system...
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/20/2008 19:15:40
Shane-O on 07/20/2008 19:15:40
Shane-O in Right Wing World?
Fools - too bad they didn't include the snarky part
Fools - too bad they didn't include the snarky part
Comment by BobR on 07/20/2008 19:20:38
:clap:
So what was the snarky part? (and are you really surprised they didn't include it?)
BobR on 07/20/2008 19:20:38
Quote by Shane-O:
Shane-O in Right Wing World?
Fools - too bad they didn't include the snarky part
:clap:
So what was the snarky part? (and are you really surprised they didn't include it?)
Comment by Shane-O on 07/20/2008 19:27:08
(not as snarky as many I've sent) but I haven't sent one in quite a while - figured any email from me went straight into their spam folders by now...
Shane-O on 07/20/2008 19:27:08
It is not the responsibility of late night shows to be fair or balanced. They are not journalists. The late-night shows are meant to entertain and as such, whatever their audiences find funny (within the boundaries of pertinent broadcasting laws) is fair game.
As the late night shows, and almost all shows (including Fox News) are based on making money, if people do not like their jokes, they can simply stop watching. As so many pundits on Fox News often suggest: Let the free market decide!
Shane F.
Pittsford, New York
(not as snarky as many I've sent) but I haven't sent one in quite a while - figured any email from me went straight into their spam folders by now...
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 19:49:53
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 19:49:53
the B l o g is s t r e t c h e d !
Comment by clintster on 07/20/2008 20:07:28
For shame! How dare the audience prefer one candidate to another. Why, if it weren't for people's liberal preferences and the late night talk shows' capacity to make jokes based on those preferences, John McCain would be well on his way to Dubya's third term!!! Harumph! HARUMPH I say!!!!!
clintster on 07/20/2008 20:07:28
Quote by Shane-O:
Shane-O in Right Wing World?
Fools - too bad they didn't include the snarky part
For shame! How dare the audience prefer one candidate to another. Why, if it weren't for people's liberal preferences and the late night talk shows' capacity to make jokes based on those preferences, John McCain would be well on his way to Dubya's third term!!! Harumph! HARUMPH I say!!!!!
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 20:34:16
I think it was caught by a non-righty. I think it is intended to associate the image of Barack with Al Q and maybe cemetary? Not likely intended to influence thinkers more to "cement" the association of Barack and Al Q in the heads of that select group that are also unsure of his religion and harbor doubts about his being a secret Muslim or even a terrorist?
But what do I know - for all I know the Democrats are making me like Obama subliminally . . .
(I don't think three layers of foil are enough these days)
capt on 07/20/2008 20:34:16
Quote by velveeta jones:
Um, I don't get it? The right is saying that the filmmaker is making an Al Q commentary? But he's a member of the right!
My God, they are getting harder and harder to follow. Lets see, if a rightwing strategist makes a film, he can say that is own title is really an Obama secret message?
I'm totally confused. :thud:
I think it was caught by a non-righty. I think it is intended to associate the image of Barack with Al Q and maybe cemetary? Not likely intended to influence thinkers more to "cement" the association of Barack and Al Q in the heads of that select group that are also unsure of his religion and harbor doubts about his being a secret Muslim or even a terrorist?
But what do I know - for all I know the Democrats are making me like Obama subliminally . . .
(I don't think three layers of foil are enough these days)
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 20:52:56
velveeta jones on 07/20/2008 20:52:56
You're only wearing 3 layers of tin foil? :blink:
How very 1997 of you!
How very 1997 of you!
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 20:59:03
capt on 07/20/2008 20:59:03
On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets:
Oh dear, these guys say the foil hats amplify the signals! UGH!
Oh dear, these guys say the foil hats amplify the signals! UGH!
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 21:06:48
capt on 07/20/2008 21:06:48
Okay, so this model of tin foil hat clearly doesn't help one bit, I wonder if this lady is better when she isn't wearing it?
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 21:21:54
capt on 07/20/2008 21:21:54
Tin foil hat lady has it all wrong and the guy that wrote the piece that says a foil hat amplifies is likely a NWO plant accordiong to: Lyle Zapato, his site has complete instruction for the correct way to build the hat AND a thickness calculator!
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 21:38:33
Raine on 07/20/2008 21:38:33
Now this is style...
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 21:41:02
Jaunty!
capt on 07/20/2008 21:41:02
Quote by Raine:
Now this is style...
Jaunty!
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 21:48:13
livingonli on 07/20/2008 21:48:13
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 21:49:25
Looks like it might be a little uncomfortable - safe but I always carry a can opener so . . .
capt on 07/20/2008 21:49:25
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Tin foil... well... It's foily.... :P
Now that's a fashion statement.
Looks like it might be a little uncomfortable - safe but I always carry a can opener so . . .
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 21:50:36
capt on 07/20/2008 21:50:36
"Can" opener - totally accidental double entendre' ! :p
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 22:40:20
(we bottled the newest batch of beer... Bobber is brewing a new one, and we are crushing grapes for the next batch of wine...
)
Raine on 07/20/2008 22:40:20
Quote by capt:
"Can" opener - totally accidental double entendre' ! :p
(we bottled the newest batch of beer... Bobber is brewing a new one, and we are crushing grapes for the next batch of wine...
)
Comment by livingonli on 07/20/2008 22:48:23
livingonli on 07/20/2008 22:48:23
How is the wine? If I ever get down to the ATL, I could try some.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 22:51:03
Never brewed any beer myself. Sounds like fun and it will eventually give up a buzz (IAG).
Me, I have to stick to the herbal tea -
I used to drink way too much Wild Turkey - still have a sip or two every now and then.
capt on 07/20/2008 22:51:03
Quote by Raine:Quote by capt:
"Can" opener - totally accidental double entendre' ! :p
(we bottled the newest batch of beer... Bobber is brewing a new one, and we are crushing grapes for the next batch of wine...
Never brewed any beer myself. Sounds like fun and it will eventually give up a buzz (IAG).
Me, I have to stick to the herbal tea -
I used to drink way too much Wild Turkey - still have a sip or two every now and then.
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 23:12:28
capt on 07/20/2008 23:12:28
Zenn and the art of really cutting back on gasoline
I guess we Americans can start smuggling zero emission cars into the country?
No one can claim they don't work or whatever.
I guess we Americans can start smuggling zero emission cars into the country?
No one can claim they don't work or whatever.
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 23:44:54
Raine on 07/20/2008 23:44:54
Naomi Klein Debunks the Offshore Drilling Plan on...
Wait for it...
FauxBidnezz.... (I know, but still... it's a start, right?)
Wait for it...
FauxBidnezz.... (I know, but still... it's a start, right?)
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 23:52:00
:gobama:
Raine on 07/20/2008 23:52:00
:gobama:
Comment by Raine on 07/20/2008 23:53:45
Raine on 07/20/2008 23:53:45
Liv, right now the wine is nothing more than crushed grapes...
It takes a while ya know...
How is work going for you tonite?
It takes a while ya know...
How is work going for you tonite?
Comment by capt on 07/20/2008 23:59:27
capt on 07/20/2008 23:59:27
Naomi ROCKS! She is another brain swoon!
*brain swoon*
Quebec electric-car sales boom
We better get on with the Gore plan!
*brain swoon*
Quebec electric-car sales boom
Manufacturers can't meet demand for the vehicles, which will cost about $16,000
Christopher Maughan , Canwest News Service
Published: Saturday, July 19, 2008
MONTREAL -- Quebec's electric car manufacturers say they can't produce their product fast enough to meet demand and have put clients' names on waiting lists.
We better get on with the Gore plan!
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 00:03:13
Actually, my vacation started today. I ended my week last night with a bang. So, I am off for the next 10 days (6 vacation days + 4 scheduled days off). Today is largely an unwinding day and tomorrow I'll be getting ready for my Vegas trip. Wish me luck, I could use some money to pay the bills (and get a new car).
livingonli on 07/21/2008 00:03:13
Quote by Raine:
Liv, right now the wine is nothing more than crushed grapes...
It takes a while ya know...
How is work going for you tonite?
Actually, my vacation started today. I ended my week last night with a bang. So, I am off for the next 10 days (6 vacation days + 4 scheduled days off). Today is largely an unwinding day and tomorrow I'll be getting ready for my Vegas trip. Wish me luck, I could use some money to pay the bills (and get a new car).
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 00:25:20
WOO HOO! Vacation!
capt on 07/21/2008 00:25:20
WOO HOO! Vacation!
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 00:33:26
capt on 07/21/2008 00:33:26
McCain predicts attacks
It's interesting to read what they think down under.
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
Seems McCain is already as embarrassing as Bush - UGH!
It's interesting to read what they think down under.
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
Seems McCain is already as embarrassing as Bush - UGH!
Comment by clintster on 07/21/2008 01:00:57
I don't know if I said it last week, but Bobber's nut brown ale is some delicious stuff! I'll have to have more when I don't have to drive anywhere soon.
clintster on 07/21/2008 01:00:57
Quote by Raine:Quote by capt:
"Can" opener - totally accidental double entendre' ! :p
(we bottled the newest batch of beer... Bobber is brewing a new one, and we are crushing grapes for the next batch of wine...
I don't know if I said it last week, but Bobber's nut brown ale is some delicious stuff! I'll have to have more when I don't have to drive anywhere soon.
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 01:05:13
capt on 07/21/2008 01:05:13
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/21/2008 01:06:33
TriSec on 07/21/2008 01:06:33
Hours and hours and hours after this comment might have been relevant....
I and the other 17 people in Massachusetts who voted for Bill Richardson are going to form our own PAC!
I'm calling it "Operation Blue"
We're going to hold our breaths until our candidate gets the nomination!
:thud:
I believe it was Lord Robin that mentioned on the message board a while back....President Obama needs to set up a "Truth and Reconciliation Committee" to start getting to the bottom of everything and maybe healing the country a little bit..
I and the other 17 people in Massachusetts who voted for Bill Richardson are going to form our own PAC!
I'm calling it "Operation Blue"
We're going to hold our breaths until our candidate gets the nomination!
:thud:
I believe it was Lord Robin that mentioned on the message board a while back....President Obama needs to set up a "Truth and Reconciliation Committee" to start getting to the bottom of everything and maybe healing the country a little bit..
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 01:08:17
livingonli on 07/21/2008 01:08:17
Who's watching Family Guy right now?
Comment by BobR on 07/21/2008 01:35:29
we're recording Operation Kill; getting ready to watch it as soon as I finish getting the bucket of wine-to-be ready...
BobR on 07/21/2008 01:35:29
Quote by livingonli:
Who's watching Family Guy right now?
we're recording Operation Kill; getting ready to watch it as soon as I finish getting the bucket of wine-to-be ready...
Comment by BobR on 07/21/2008 01:42:41
When are you going to be in Vegas, bro?
BobR on 07/21/2008 01:42:41
Quote by livingonli:
Actually, my vacation started today. I ended my week last night with a bang. So, I am off for the next 10 days (6 vacation days + 4 scheduled days off). Today is largely an unwinding day and tomorrow I'll be getting ready for my Vegas trip. Wish me luck, I could use some money to pay the bills (and get a new car).
When are you going to be in Vegas, bro?
Comment by Raine on 07/21/2008 01:43:53
When we come on out to see you guys, we won't come empty handed!
Raine on 07/21/2008 01:43:53
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:Quote by capt:
"Can" opener - totally accidental double entendre' ! :p
(we bottled the newest batch of beer... Bobber is brewing a new one, and we are crushing grapes for the next batch of wine...
I don't know if I said it last week, but Bobber's nut brown ale is some delicious stuff! I'll have to have more when I don't have to drive anywhere soon.
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 01:44:48
Random on 07/21/2008 01:44:48
Random is a little drunk...
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 01:45:03
Flying out Tuesday morning. Heading back Friday night. I had enough points that I only paid 5 bucks for my flight so I'm only paying for the hotel.
livingonli on 07/21/2008 01:45:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Actually, my vacation started today. I ended my week last night with a bang. So, I am off for the next 10 days (6 vacation days + 4 scheduled days off). Today is largely an unwinding day and tomorrow I'll be getting ready for my Vegas trip. Wish me luck, I could use some money to pay the bills (and get a new car).
When are you going to be in Vegas, bro?
Flying out Tuesday morning. Heading back Friday night. I had enough points that I only paid 5 bucks for my flight so I'm only paying for the hotel.
Comment by Raine on 07/21/2008 01:49:58
:rofl:
Raine on 07/21/2008 01:49:58
:rofl:
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:05:05
Getting frisked at the airport is just a bonus!
capt on 07/21/2008 02:05:05
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Actually, my vacation started today. I ended my week last night with a bang. So, I am off for the next 10 days (6 vacation days + 4 scheduled days off). Today is largely an unwinding day and tomorrow I'll be getting ready for my Vegas trip. Wish me luck, I could use some money to pay the bills (and get a new car).
When are you going to be in Vegas, bro?
Flying out Tuesday morning. Heading back Friday night. I had enough points that I only paid 5 bucks for my flight so I'm only paying for the hotel.
Getting frisked at the airport is just a bonus!
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:07:15
All Hail Drunk Random™
™ ™ ™
capt on 07/21/2008 02:07:15
Quote by Random:
Random is a little drunk...
All Hail Drunk Random™
™ ™ ™
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 02:10:42
livingonli on 07/21/2008 02:10:42
Just got a T-Storm alert in my area.
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:11:06
capt on 07/21/2008 02:11:06
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:11:07
Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:11:07
Why my lil blogger peeps have been like the famous beaver today! Many posts on the PUMAs and such like.
Pfft! I in my recently renewed commitment not to shop at a certain big box retailer who's trade dress includes lots of blue, I risked almost certain infection keloid scaring on my right heel by not stopping there and getting bandages and antibiotic ointment at lunch. I have dressed my fire ant wounds. :heroic, stoic:
Pfft! I in my recently renewed commitment not to shop at a certain big box retailer who's trade dress includes lots of blue, I risked almost certain infection keloid scaring on my right heel by not stopping there and getting bandages and antibiotic ointment at lunch. I have dressed my fire ant wounds. :heroic, stoic:
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:12:58
capt on 07/21/2008 02:12:58
All hail Mondo
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:13:17
Donde los Yikes, Capt. You might want to hit the good old edit button. That picture is UGE! Trump like in it's ugeness!
Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:13:17
Quote by capt:
Obama campaign plane poised to depart from Chicago for Mid-east and Europe
More at the link!
Donde los Yikes, Capt. You might want to hit the good old edit button. That picture is UGE! Trump like in it's ugeness!
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:15:07
capt on 07/21/2008 02:15:07
I yanked it already - yank it from the quoted one too?
I thought it was a little picture . . .
I thought it was a little picture . . .
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:16:34
Yeah my bad!
I fixed it too. I am an eediot! :Ren Hoak:
Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:16:34
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
Obama campaign plane poised to depart from Chicago for Mid-east and Europe
More at the link!
Donde los Yikes, Capt. You might want to hit the good old edit button. That picture is UGE! Trump like in it's ugeness!
Yeah my bad!
I fixed it too. I am an eediot! :Ren Hoak:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:19:21
Oy!
:thud: I hope you don't mind me using the Capt clip, Capt. I just love it!
Mondobubba on 07/21/2008 02:19:21
Quote by capt:
I yanked it already - yank it from the quoted one too?
I thought it was a little picture . . .
Oy!
:thud: I hope you don't mind me using the Capt clip, Capt. I just love it!
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:19:30
capt on 07/21/2008 02:19:30
I pull the addr from properties, I am remisss in not seeing how UGE it was!
The pictures are cool at the link.
The pictures are cool at the link.
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:26:34
Direct from "El Rancho R U Kiddin" I love it, and all honors go to Shane-o so goes without sayin' !!
capt on 07/21/2008 02:26:34
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
I yanked it already - yank it from the quoted one too?
I thought it was a little picture . . .
Oy!
:thud: I hope you don't mind me using the Capt clip, Capt. I just love it!
Direct from "El Rancho R U Kiddin" I love it, and all honors go to Shane-o so goes without sayin' !!
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 02:34:32
capt on 07/21/2008 02:34:32
The new series on USA "In Plain Sight" is all taped here in Albuquerque. The show isn't the worst - it is kinda cool seeing our little city in all of the exteriors and whatnot.
It is part of the business Bill Richardson has brought to the ABQ. We had 100 (I think) film productions here in 2007, I think this is the first series done here.
It is part of the business Bill Richardson has brought to the ABQ. We had 100 (I think) film productions here in 2007, I think this is the first series done here.
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 02:37:43
Random on 07/21/2008 02:37:43
Randomssshhh....Demandsshsh...tributes...
*falls face first on blog*
I'm okayssshh
*falls face first on blog*
I'm okayssshh
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 02:40:13
livingonli on 07/21/2008 02:40:13
All hail Random and get him a refreshing beverage.
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 02:42:14
Some how That show just seems to depressing, from what i understand is every week you have a family (or person...orwhatever) hiding from people that want to kill them, and every week the stars try and stop that family from getting killed. Ultimatly it's a family that's had their lives destroyed, and will get shot at it...
All I'm saying is...the premise is going to wear thing...fast.
Random on 07/21/2008 02:42:14
Quote by capt:
The new series on USA "In Plain Sight" is all taped here in Albuquerque. The show isn't the worst - it is kinda cool seeing our little city in all of the exteriors and whatnot.
It is part of the business Bill Richardson has brought to the ABQ. We had 100 (I think) film productions here in 2007, I think this is the first series done here.
Some how That show just seems to depressing, from what i understand is every week you have a family (or person...orwhatever) hiding from people that want to kill them, and every week the stars try and stop that family from getting killed. Ultimatly it's a family that's had their lives destroyed, and will get shot at it...
All I'm saying is...the premise is going to wear thing...fast.
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 02:44:19
Thank yous...
Random on 07/21/2008 02:44:19
Quote by livingonli:
All hail Random and get him a refreshing beverage.
Thank yous...
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 02:50:26
Random on 07/21/2008 02:50:26
Oh, And speaking of Albuquerque....
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 02:54:59
livingonli on 07/21/2008 02:54:59
Bugs Bunny always has to watch out for that left turn at Albuquerque.
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 02:57:18
Random on 07/21/2008 02:57:18
Because...I'm bored.
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 03:16:31
capt on 07/21/2008 03:16:31
All hail bored™
™
™
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 03:24:49
Random on 07/21/2008 03:24:49
....*smotes Capt*
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 03:28:35
capt on 07/21/2008 03:28:35
Fantastic Planet is a French sci-fi animation (1973) directed by Rene Laloux. Humans are called “Oms” and, newly imported, are kept as pets for giant blue humanoid aliens called “Traags”. I had to watch it twice because it’s short and incredibly beautiful. The sound design is unique and the environment of the film is incredibly imaginative, with a wide array of surreal creatures and plants.
(in eight parts)
We watched this film with a fair dose of psychoactives. It was a trip then, still is.
(in eight parts)
We watched this film with a fair dose of psychoactives. It was a trip then, still is.
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 03:28:41
Random on 07/21/2008 03:28:41
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 03:34:55
livingonli on 07/21/2008 03:34:55
No cookie for capt tonight.
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 03:39:22
And tonight, I made my "Special" cookies.
Random on 07/21/2008 03:39:22
Quote by livingonli:
No cookie for capt tonight.
And tonight, I made my "Special" cookies.
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 03:40:45
capt on 07/21/2008 03:40:45
I do make a left in Albuquerque all the time - if that counts for anything. . .
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 03:42:57
capt on 07/21/2008 03:42:57
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 03:43:19
Random on 07/21/2008 03:43:19
Random love the movie the clips are from...
Comment by Random on 07/21/2008 03:51:10
Random on 07/21/2008 03:51:10
Random geek...he go into corner now.
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 03:56:02
livingonli on 07/21/2008 03:56:02
You're not alone, Random. Many people on this blog are geeks.
Comment by m-hadley on 07/21/2008 04:00:32
m-hadley on 07/21/2008 04:00:32
Excellent Post Velveeta,
I am afraid I know this species of which you speak (i.e. PUMAs). They can be found far and wide all over the Internets, although, like you, I suspect that many of them are nothing more than spoilers from the GOP camp masquerading as true blue Dems. Anyway, I'm back tonight from a fabu trip to Oregon (both Portland & the Coast - from Pacific City to Seaside) and will post photos as soon as they are available. If anyone on this blog has a penchant for vintage clothes - I must recommend "Garbo's" in Wheeler, Oregon. Not merely because my sister is the sole proprietor of the joint, but because she has some amazing SH*T - I am encouraging her to get a web site up and running. There are markets to be tapped. Anyone in the market for a fabulous MuuMuu or a 70s leisure suit?
Hope everybody on the blog is well and here's wishing you all a great week ahead :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
I am afraid I know this species of which you speak (i.e. PUMAs). They can be found far and wide all over the Internets, although, like you, I suspect that many of them are nothing more than spoilers from the GOP camp masquerading as true blue Dems. Anyway, I'm back tonight from a fabu trip to Oregon (both Portland & the Coast - from Pacific City to Seaside) and will post photos as soon as they are available. If anyone on this blog has a penchant for vintage clothes - I must recommend "Garbo's" in Wheeler, Oregon. Not merely because my sister is the sole proprietor of the joint, but because she has some amazing SH*T - I am encouraging her to get a web site up and running. There are markets to be tapped. Anyone in the market for a fabulous MuuMuu or a 70s leisure suit?
Hope everybody on the blog is well and here's wishing you all a great week ahead :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 04:04:46
capt on 07/21/2008 04:04:46
Geek is the new cool so . . .
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 04:08:07
capt on 07/21/2008 04:08:07
http://www.geekologie.com/
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 04:08:53
livingonli on 07/21/2008 04:08:53
Welcome back, mfaye. At least you had a nice trip and now you got the fun of the blog again.
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 04:10:32
capt on 07/21/2008 04:10:32
This was a duplicate post sorry - UGH!
Comment by capt on 07/21/2008 04:10:33
mFaye!
Glad you are back safe and sound.
capt on 07/21/2008 04:10:33
Quote by m-hadley:
Excellent Post Velveeta,
I am afraid I know this species of which you speak (i.e. PUMAs). They can be found far and wide all over the Internets, although, like you, I suspect that many of them are nothing more than spoilers from the GOP camp masquerading as true blue Dems. Anyway, I'm back tonight from a fabu trip to Oregon (both Portland & the Coast - from Pacific City to Seaside) and will post photos as soon as they are available. If anyone on this blog has a penchant for vintage clothes - I must recommend "Garbo's" in Wheeler, Oregon. Not merely because my sister is the sole proprietor of the joint, but because she has some amazing SH*T - I am encouraging her to get a web site up and running. There are markets to be tapped. Anyone in the market for a fabulous MuuMuu or a 70s leisure suit?
Hope everybody on the blog is well and here's wishing you all a great week ahead :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
mFaye!
Glad you are back safe and sound.
Comment by m-hadley on 07/21/2008 04:31:15
m-hadley on 07/21/2008 04:31:15
It is indeed good to be back kids :D
So Livin, when do you head to Vegas, babeee?
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
So Livin, when do you head to Vegas, babeee?
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 04:37:25
livingonli on 07/21/2008 04:37:25
Headin' out Tuesday morning.
Comment by livingonli on 07/21/2008 06:05:43
livingonli on 07/21/2008 06:05:43
For late night video theater tonight, look what I dug up on the You Tubes.