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Ask A Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 07/22/2008 10:39:18
Good Morning.
Today is our 1,952nd day in Iraq.
We'll start as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra...courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4124
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3985
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3663
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3265
Since Election (1/31/05): 2687
Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 558
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $538, 820, 000, 000.00
We'll be doing something a little different this morning. Among the many podcasts I listen to during the week is a little gem from the CBC called "The Maritimes This Week". It's a collection of the best stories from the Maritime provinces that was broadcast during the week, and it's well worth checking out if you have the slightest interest in Atlantic Canada.
Anyway, last week's podcast featured an extensive segment on a soldier that had been killed in Afghanistan recently. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the story in print....but from Western Canada comes a similar story.
For every one of us, death is something that we all intellectually know is waiting for everyone we care about, including ourselves. For civilians, it's usually tidy and even sometimes it's something you can expect and plan for. Once the inevitable occurs, it's just a phone call or two, and the arrangements are made and the family starts to gather. But did you ever wonder what happens when a soldier is killed...especially in battle? George Bush and his administration have made the death of American soldiers a virtual state secret....there's no public acknowledgement, no press, and aside from the reverent handling by their peers, it's a death without honour and ceremony.
Compare this to the way Canada handles its war dead.
Despite all the talk of the 'special relationship' that exists between the US and England...I daresay that our best and closest ally is Canada. They do the right thing for their soldiers. And we would do well to emulate them.
Today is our 1,952nd day in Iraq.
We'll start as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra...courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4124
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3985
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3663
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3265
Since Election (1/31/05): 2687
Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 558
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $538, 820, 000, 000.00
We'll be doing something a little different this morning. Among the many podcasts I listen to during the week is a little gem from the CBC called "The Maritimes This Week". It's a collection of the best stories from the Maritime provinces that was broadcast during the week, and it's well worth checking out if you have the slightest interest in Atlantic Canada.
Anyway, last week's podcast featured an extensive segment on a soldier that had been killed in Afghanistan recently. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the story in print....but from Western Canada comes a similar story.
The family of Cpl. James Arnal is still trying to come to grips with the death of the Manitoba-based soldier, who was killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan on Friday.
Born in Saskatchewan, Arnal, 25, had lived most of his life in Winnipeg. He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, stationed at Canadian Forces Base Shilo in Manitoba.
His aunt, Donna Kadash, still remembers when he told the family he had decided to follow in the footsteps of his grandfather, who also served in the Canadian military.
"That made my dad so proud," she said. "It was hard to accept, knowing him going over there, what he was getting into."
James arrived home safe from his first tour. During his homecoming in Winnipeg, he told the family he was going back for a second tour.
"It was what he believed in. He wanted to protect his family and the country," she said.
"[We were] proud and terrified at the same time, because he had mentioned that [this time] he was going to be more active and closer to the action, and that kind of scared us all."
The casket of Cpl. James Hayward Arnal, who was killed late Friday, is loaded onto a military plane during a ramp ceremony at Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan on Sunday.The casket of Cpl. James Hayward Arnal, who was killed late Friday, is loaded onto a military plane during a ramp ceremony at Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan on Sunday. Arnal deployed again in February.
He was on an evening foot patrol in the Panjwaii district near Kandahar city on Friday when he was killed, military officials said. Another soldier was wounded in the same blast, but was said to be in good condition and expected to return to duty.
His comrades described him as a leader and a fearless fighter who had left a lucrative career in information technology to join the army.
His family remembers him as a loving, passionate person. Relatives said he had been due to return to Canada in September, but had expressed interest in returning for a third tour of duty in 2009.
Richard Bracken said his close friend loved the soldier's life.
"It gave him the opportunity to travel — I mean, not only to Afghanistan. He travelled to Australia, to Africa, to Europe, to New Zealand, all in his spare time," he said.
"He'd have, like, two-week leaves and he'd go to these places on his own. He'd meet all these people. It's just the way he was. He was a traveller and an adventurer. He loved it so much."
Kadash described her nephew as "just a good guy.
"He always made you laugh, always made you smile. He was the life of the party," she said. "The whole family is so proud of him. And I just hope this ends soon for other family members, not to lose anyone close to them over there."
For every one of us, death is something that we all intellectually know is waiting for everyone we care about, including ourselves. For civilians, it's usually tidy and even sometimes it's something you can expect and plan for. Once the inevitable occurs, it's just a phone call or two, and the arrangements are made and the family starts to gather. But did you ever wonder what happens when a soldier is killed...especially in battle? George Bush and his administration have made the death of American soldiers a virtual state secret....there's no public acknowledgement, no press, and aside from the reverent handling by their peers, it's a death without honour and ceremony.
Compare this to the way Canada handles its war dead.
After an injury is sustained in battle, the soldier is evacuated to a medical facility for treatment. If the injury is fatal, a doctor confirms the death and the soldier's family is notified.
A public announcement follows, then a military ramp ceremony takes place as the soldier's body is loaded into a transport plane for the flight back to Canadian Forces Base Trenton.
Once there, the body is sent to Toronto for examination by a coroner, after which it is released to the family for funeral and burial.
All of a soldier's personal property is returned to next of kin. Military-issued equipment such as combat uniforms, weapons and helmets are returned to the Canadian Forces to be re-used if possible.
While all this is happening, various support groups are made available to the families of the dead soldier.
There is H.O.P.E (Helping Others by Providing Empathy), a joint Canadian Forces-Veterans Affairs Canada initiative founded by a group of Canadian Forces veterans.
It is comprised of volunteer spouses or parents of soldiers killed in action.
The Member Assistance Program provides crisis counselling 24 hours a day from anywhere in the world. Also available is the Canadian Forces' Pastoral Outreach Program, which is staffed by multi-faith chaplains, that can "provide a swift response and high-quality care in various crisis situations."
In addition to these services, an assisting officer is made available to the family 24 hours a day to answer questions about regulations and entitlements, such as how much of the funeral and burial will be paid for by the government.
Currently, this amount stands at $13,005 (not including GST and PST) and is adjusted each April 1 to cover inflation.
The amount covers such things as a casket or urn; funeral director fees and services (i.e. registration and documentation, embalmer's professional services, use of the funeral home); limousine and hearse rental; the rental of a church or different facility, including seating attendants; interment or scattering of ashes.
The cemetery plot and a special casket, if necessary, are paid for as well, as is all transportation of the soldier's remains.
Once the service is over, a temporary wooden burial marker is provided indicating "the service number, rank, initials, surname, branch or regiment, date of death, and age of the deceased member."
If a permanent Department of National Defence headstone is not desired, a maximum of $2,300 will be put toward the creation of a private headstone.
Despite all the talk of the 'special relationship' that exists between the US and England...I daresay that our best and closest ally is Canada. They do the right thing for their soldiers. And we would do well to emulate them.
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Comment by 
capt on 07/22/2008 12:22:46
capt on 07/22/2008 12:22:46
Good morning!
As always a great post and insights.
Even England has a member of the royal family meet and welcome home their dead troops and honors them for their service.
America . . . . not-so-much.
We have to do better by our troops (living and dead). They deserve better than to be treated like carbon based bullet stoppers.
As always a great post and insights.
Even England has a member of the royal family meet and welcome home their dead troops and honors them for their service.
America . . . . not-so-much.
We have to do better by our troops (living and dead). They deserve better than to be treated like carbon based bullet stoppers.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 12:26:06
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 12:26:06
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 12:44:51
velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 12:44:51
Very interesting, though not surprising that Canada treats their soldiers with dignity. They also take care of their civilians with health care as well! Damn, Canada is sounding better and better. Eh.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:08:44
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:08:44
I have a Kodak Easy Share, them make me use the gallery. Other then that the camera's great
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:10:12
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:10:12
Was he calling in from underwater :spit:
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:10:13
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:10:13
Hi everyone. I'm blogging and listening to Steph on the JetBlue Wi-Fi at JFK.
I was amazed that I actually got up. I was worried that I would oversleep since I normally am not up that early because of my work shift.
I was amazed that I actually got up. I was worried that I would oversleep since I normally am not up that early because of my work shift.
Comment by livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:10:57
He's an ancestor to Mr. Spacely.
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:10:57
Quote by wickedpam:
Was he calling in from underwater :spit:
He's an ancestor to Mr. Spacely.
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 13:10:59
velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 13:10:59
OMG! That guy sounds sooooooo "analog". :rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:13:38
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:13:38
wow 
"My TOOLSHED!"
Hey Chris, I love that song too. :p
"My TOOLSHED!"
Hey Chris, I love that song too. :p
Comment by livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:16:22
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:16:22
There's no wildlife in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.
Boner is an appropriate name for him.
Boner is an appropriate name for him.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:18:27
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:18:27
Hey! Aren't you supposed to be playing slots or blackjack or something?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:19:38
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:19:38
:rofl: !
Comment by livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:20:42
I'm at JFK. I'm waiting for my flight. Hopefully a thunderstorm won't delay it. This humid weather has really hit New York and my Air Conditioners have been putting out more water because of it.
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:20:42
Quote by wickedpam:
Hey! Aren't you supposed to be playing slots or blackjack or something?
I'm at JFK. I'm waiting for my flight. Hopefully a thunderstorm won't delay it. This humid weather has really hit New York and my Air Conditioners have been putting out more water because of it.
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/22/2008 13:22:52
TriSec on 07/22/2008 13:22:52
Hey liv, what's your flight number?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:24:00
OOHhhh I thought you left last night.
It's humid here too - I've got AC and fans going at the house. I hate that but everything feels damp and that leads to mold and that's the last thing I need.
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:24:00
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
Hey! Aren't you supposed to be playing slots or blackjack or something?
I'm at JFK. I'm waiting for my flight. Hopefully a thunderstorm won't delay it. This humid weather has really hit New York and my Air Conditioners have been putting out more water because of it.
OOHhhh I thought you left last night.
It's humid here too - I've got AC and fans going at the house. I hate that but everything feels damp and that leads to mold and that's the last thing I need.
Comment by livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:25:36
Jet Blue 197
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:25:36
Quote by TriSec:
Hey liv, what's your flight number?
Jet Blue 197
Comment by livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:28:24
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:28:24
The commercials are moving into the show now.
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 13:29:56
TriSec on 07/22/2008 13:29:56
OK, I make you an Airbus A-320, originating in Buffalo. No news on a scheduled departure time yet. You mentioned some weather enroute, it's probably a ground hold; they won't release the flight until you get a high-altitude clearance.
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/22/2008 13:39:19
<------- This is for Contessa Brewer who confused my beloved, Meryl Streep with, the not so beloved, Glenn Close.
Other than that, Good Morning.
NPR was talking about the GMC Volt this morning. Did you know they are going to cost around 40Grand? Thanks GM. Thanks for making an alternative fuel vehicle that is accessible to the average person.
starling310 on 07/22/2008 13:39:19
<------- This is for Contessa Brewer who confused my beloved, Meryl Streep with, the not so beloved, Glenn Close. Other than that, Good Morning.
NPR was talking about the GMC Volt this morning. Did you know they are going to cost around 40Grand? Thanks GM. Thanks for making an alternative fuel vehicle that is accessible to the average person.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:42:56
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:42:56
Hopfully like VCR's and DVD players the price will come down the more versions that come out.
Comment by livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:44:37
livingonli on 07/22/2008 13:44:37
There was that University study that noted that Fox News viewers are usually the least informed about current events while they claim to be the most informed.
I'm going to be logging off soon since I have to get to my gate. If my flight's delayed, I will probably be back on. Otherwise I will check in once I get to Vegas.
I'm going to be logging off soon since I have to get to my gate. If my flight's delayed, I will probably be back on. Otherwise I will check in once I get to Vegas.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 13:45:56
The idea that they are "well informed" is subliminal.
capt on 07/22/2008 13:45:56
Quote by livingonli:
There was that University study that noted that Fox News viewers are usually the least informed about current events while they claim to be the most informed.
I'm going to be logging off soon since I have to get to my gate. If my flight's delayed, I will probably be back on. Otherwise I will check in once I get to Vegas.
The idea that they are "well informed" is subliminal.
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 13:47:49
TriSec on 07/22/2008 13:47:49
Safe travels, liv. Jet Blue Airbuses almost never suffer nosewheel problems these days, anyway!
We'll be tracking ya.
: av-dork :
We'll be tracking ya.
: av-dork :
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:49:01
Have a safe flight! :hug:
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:49:01
Quote by livingonli:
There was that University study that noted that Fox News viewers are usually the least informed about current events while they claim to be the most informed.
I'm going to be logging off soon since I have to get to my gate. If my flight's delayed, I will probably be back on. Otherwise I will check in once I get to Vegas.
Have a safe flight! :hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:49:52
Don't do that to someone about to fly! 
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:49:52
Quote by TriSec:
Safe travels, liv. Jet Blue Airbuses almost never suffer nosewheel problems these days, anyway!
We'll be tracking ya.
: av-dork :
Don't do that to someone about to fly!
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 13:53:40
capt on 07/22/2008 13:53:40
Did McCain go to Iraq BEFORE he voted to invade?
Comment by 
Raine on 07/22/2008 13:56:11
Raine on 07/22/2008 13:56:11
Good morning.
BYE LIV !!! HAVE FUN!!!!
BYE LIV !!! HAVE FUN!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:56:35
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 13:56:35
Would not the children who are "wilder" be more likely to be classifed with ADD rather then autism?
Comment by 
clintster on 07/22/2008 13:56:36
clintster on 07/22/2008 13:56:36
OK, that's it! One post on Savage and autism coming up.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 13:58:15
starling310 on 07/22/2008 13:58:15
Yeah, there is a big difference between say, Thom Hartmann talking about the over-medication/diagnosing of children and The Weiner doing it.
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:00:36
TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:00:36
Aw, come on WP. Livin was in more danger during his ride to the airport this morning than he will be at any time during his flight today.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:01:27
you want it for this afternoon, or would you like to do the blog tomorrow? (or whenever)
I came to the radio just in time to hear some dope trying to justify Weiner. :grumble:
I already set you up to create blogs, Clint.
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:01:27
Quote by clintster:
OK, that's it! One post on Savage and autism coming up.
you want it for this afternoon, or would you like to do the blog tomorrow? (or whenever)
I came to the radio just in time to hear some dope trying to justify Weiner. :grumble:
I already set you up to create blogs, Clint.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:02:39
capt on 07/22/2008 14:02:39
GOP senators scramble for life boats
So the GOPhers are now "free" to pander for re-election?
Talk about principles - do they know how this sounds?
Republican Senate leaders — terrified by the prospect of losing five or more seats in November — have freed their members to vote however they need to vote to get reelected, even if that means bucking the president or the party’s leadership.
So the GOPhers are now "free" to pander for re-election?
Talk about principles - do they know how this sounds?
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:03:25
TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:03:25
Yo, AP! That wasn't an airplane landing sound, it was a helo.
Come on, at least try!
Come on, at least try!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:10:07
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:10:07
So I got to the radio Mosheen late, has momma mentioned who *ush's new Deputy Chief of staff is yet?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 14:11:42
Logically I know that, but I also now the flying is mostly dangerous during take off and landing. Still just makes me antzy.
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 14:11:42
Quote by TriSec:
Aw, come on WP. Livin was in more danger during his ride to the airport this morning than he will be at any time during his flight today.
Logically I know that, but I also now the flying is mostly dangerous during take off and landing. Still just makes me antzy.
Comment by clintster on 07/22/2008 14:11:50
Thankees, Raine! I think I'd like to post it tomorrow. I am about to head out to a job fair, so this'll give me time to stew and put my thoughts together without writing 1002 words saying "Fark you, Weiner!" over and over and over again.
clintster on 07/22/2008 14:11:50
Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:
OK, that's it! One post on Savage and autism coming up.
you want it for this afternoon, or would you like to do the blog tomorrow? (or whenever)
I came to the radio just in time to hear some dope trying to justify Weiner. :grumble:
I already set you up to create blogs, Clint.
Thankees, Raine! I think I'd like to post it tomorrow. I am about to head out to a job fair, so this'll give me time to stew and put my thoughts together without writing 1002 words saying "Fark you, Weiner!" over and over and over again.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:12:26
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:12:26
:rofl: MGM is getting a MAJOR hit from danny!!! :rofl:
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:13:58
capt on 07/22/2008 14:13:58
I was just thinking about the $2,000.00 McCain gets in Social Security?
He had to APPLY for it, he had to ASK for it, even his disability - he had to FILE for it.
He had to do so AFTER he was a multi-millionaire?
No wonder he thinks the system is broken - he is breaking it as we speak.
Grrrrrr
He had to APPLY for it, he had to ASK for it, even his disability - he had to FILE for it.
He had to do so AFTER he was a multi-millionaire?
No wonder he thinks the system is broken - he is breaking it as we speak.
Grrrrrr
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:16:29
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:16:29
Ewwwww? Why the hell would one WANT a numb penis??? I like mah peni dancing!! :penis:
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 14:17:04
velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 14:17:04
numb the .......................:blink: Wouldn't that make it .......... um, er, not fun?
:blink:
:blink:
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:17:59
OK! So unless you tell me otherwise, we have an 8:30 Hard deck for the morning blogs.
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:17:59
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:
OK, that's it! One post on Savage and autism coming up.
you want it for this afternoon, or would you like to do the blog tomorrow? (or whenever)
I came to the radio just in time to hear some dope trying to justify Weiner. :grumble:
I already set you up to create blogs, Clint.
Thankees, Raine! I think I'd like to post it tomorrow. I am about to head out to a job fair, so this'll give me time to stew and put my thoughts together without writing 1002 words saying "Fark you, Weiner!" over and over and over again.
OK! So unless you tell me otherwise, we have an 8:30 Hard deck for the morning blogs.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:18:31
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:18:31
NO, HE WAS talking about Autism. He likened it to asthma...
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:19:33
capt on 07/22/2008 14:19:33
McCain had to have applied for Social Security about 6 years ago (when he turned 65) so since he ran for president in 2000. Add that the guy has so much money he couldn't count it all in his lifetime and yet he has to ASK the government for $2,000.00 a month because he can?
Is that integrity or good character?
What would the M$M say about Barack if the shoe was on the other foot?
Is that integrity or good character?
What would the M$M say about Barack if the shoe was on the other foot?
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:21:38
In an episode of "Scrubs" they talked about sitting on their hand until it fell asleep so when he touched himself it felt like it was somenody else . . .
capt on 07/22/2008 14:21:38
Quote by velveeta jones:
numb the .......................:blink: Wouldn't that make it .......... um, er, not fun?
:blink:
In an episode of "Scrubs" they talked about sitting on their hand until it fell asleep so when he touched himself it felt like it was somenody else . . .
Comment by clintster on 07/22/2008 14:23:52
Got it. I'll be posting it tomorrow. :D
clintster on 07/22/2008 14:23:52
Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:Quote by clintster:
OK, that's it! One post on Savage and autism coming up.
you want it for this afternoon, or would you like to do the blog tomorrow? (or whenever)
I came to the radio just in time to hear some dope trying to justify Weiner. :grumble:
I already set you up to create blogs, Clint.
Thankees, Raine! I think I'd like to post it tomorrow. I am about to head out to a job fair, so this'll give me time to stew and put my thoughts together without writing 1002 words saying "Fark you, Weiner!" over and over and over again.
OK! So unless you tell me otherwise, we have an 8:30 Hard deck for the morning blogs.
Got it. I'll be posting it tomorrow. :D
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:24:30
capt on 07/22/2008 14:24:30
I used to ride a "cafe" style motorcycle - (rice rocket) and the leaning forward would sometimes make my junk fall asleep (go numb ) - an odd sensation but NOTHING compared to the "pins and needles" when the feeling came back!
(totally true)
(totally true)
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:26:42
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:26:42
HEre is ALL that Savage SAid:
He wasn't mistaken with what he was talking about.
From the July 16 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Savage Nation:
SAVAGE: Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I'm not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing that every minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden -- why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I'll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], "When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], 'I don't know, the dust got me.' " See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.
Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is.
What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."
Autism -- everybody has an illness. If I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, "Don't behave like a fool." The worst thing he said -- "Don't behave like a fool. Don't be anybody's dummy. Don't sound like an idiot. Don't act like a girl. Don't cry." That's what I was raised with. That's what you should raise your children with. Stop with the sensitivity training. You're turning your son into a girl, and you're turning your nation into a nation of losers and beaten men. That's why we have the politicians we have.
He wasn't mistaken with what he was talking about.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:29:38
capt on 07/22/2008 14:29:38
I think Savage did it as a rating stunt.
I bet he has been losing market share . . .
I bet he has been losing market share . . .
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:29:51
They would try to eat him alive. you see capt, like the way he treats women, it's all just part of McCain Authenticity...
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:29:51
Quote by capt:
McCain had to have applied for Social Security about 6 years ago (when he turned 65) so since he ran for president in 2000. Add that the guy has so much money he couldn't count it all in his lifetime and yet he has to ASK the government for $2,000.00 a month because he can?
Is that integrity or good character?
What would the M$M say about Barack if the shoe was on the other foot?
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:31:14
WOw!
Did you ever do that on your rice rocket?
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:31:14
Quote by capt:Quote by velveeta jones:
numb the .......................:blink: Wouldn't that make it .......... um, er, not fun?
:blink:
In an episode of "Scrubs" they talked about sitting on their hand until it fell asleep so when he touched himself it felt like it was somenody else . . .
Did you ever do that on your rice rocket?
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:33:49
See, that is more creative thinking than I ever had . . .
capt on 07/22/2008 14:33:49
Quote by Raine:WOw!Quote by capt:Quote by velveeta jones:
numb the .......................:blink: Wouldn't that make it .......... um, er, not fun?
:blink:
In an episode of "Scrubs" they talked about sitting on their hand until it fell asleep so when he touched himself it felt like it was somenody else . . .
Did you ever do that on your rice rocket?
See, that is more creative thinking than I ever had . . .
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:35:22
capt on 07/22/2008 14:35:22
Did ya hear Glenn Beck subbed for Larry King last night?
??Glenn Beck??
WTF?
??Glenn Beck??
WTF?
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:35:52
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:35:52
Mississippi Station yanks Savage off the air. Actually it's the states largest radio network...
Buh bye...
Buh bye...
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:35:57
TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:35:57
Oh, and telling your kid to 'grow up and stop being a putz' doesn't work with most non-autistic children, either.
Trust me on this one.
Trust me on this one.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 14:37:45
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 14:37:45
That's his whole tag line thing - "Don't hope for it - vote of it". Did no one every tell them not to put a negative in a slug line?
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:38:48
OMG- OMG - OMG *dancing in a cricle*
How effin great is that? One down but it is a start!
Thanks for that - it has made my morning . . .
capt on 07/22/2008 14:38:48
Quote by Raine:
Mississippi Station yanks Savage off the air. Actually it's the states largest radio network...
Buh bye...
OMG- OMG - OMG *dancing in a cricle*
How effin great is that? One down but it is a start!
Thanks for that - it has made my morning . . .
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 14:40:37
Tell someone with chronic depression to cheer up!
Tell a manic person to calm down!
Tell a PTSD sufferer to get over it.
Tell a disabled person to get the heck out of that chair and WALK!
See all better . . .
capt on 07/22/2008 14:40:37
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, and telling your kid to 'grow up and stop being a putz' doesn't work with most non-autistic children, either.
Trust me on this one.
Tell someone with chronic depression to cheer up!
Tell a manic person to calm down!
Tell a PTSD sufferer to get over it.
Tell a disabled person to get the heck out of that chair and WALK!
See all better . . .
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 14:41:19
:blink:
Thats fuct up!
I watched a bit of Beck the other day, just long enough before I threw up. It occurs to me, there's a man that really should not be on the TV. Radio only.
He looks like he's trying to make a mockery of everything he's saying, and since the stuff he's saying ain't funny, its weird to watch.
:wacko:
velveeta jones on 07/22/2008 14:41:19
Quote by capt:
Did ya hear Glenn Beck subbed for Larry King last night?
??Glenn Beck??
WTF?
:blink:
Thats fuct up!
I watched a bit of Beck the other day, just long enough before I threw up. It occurs to me, there's a man that really should not be on the TV. Radio only.
He looks like he's trying to make a mockery of everything he's saying, and since the stuff he's saying ain't funny, its weird to watch.
:wacko:
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:42:44
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:42:44
Was that momma from this morning?
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:45:51
YEAH!
Tell someone who's Moonstruck to ::: Olympia Dukakis::: "Snap OUT of it!"
Never works, ever.
Great point Tri. Underlying all of his assholiness regarding the autism is how badly he thinks ALL children , er... BOYS, should be treated.
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:45:51
Quote by capt:Quote by TriSec:
Oh, and telling your kid to 'grow up and stop being a putz' doesn't work with most non-autistic children, either.
Trust me on this one.
Tell someone with chronic depression to cheer up!
Tell a manic person to calm down!
Tell a PTSD sufferer to get over it.
Tell a disabled person to get the heck out of that chair and WALK!
See all better . . .
Tell someone who's Moonstruck to ::: Olympia Dukakis::: "Snap OUT of it!"
Never works, ever.
Great point Tri. Underlying all of his assholiness regarding the autism is how badly he thinks ALL children , er... BOYS, should be treated.
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/22/2008 14:47:11
On CNN - here:
Took me a while this am - cable modem was out until about 9:50 - grr!
Shane-O on 07/22/2008 14:47:11
Quote by Raine:
Was that momma from this morning?
Took me a while this am - cable modem was out until about 9:50 - grr!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:49:39
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:49:39
Ack! Shane, what was that you tube addee again? I was trying to fix the link... and I seem to have lost a number...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 14:52:49
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 14:52:49
was it him?
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:55:33
TriSec on 07/22/2008 14:55:33
News from JFK:
Livin just got off.
Well, his plane did. Took off, I mean.
Oh, poop.
Livin just got off.
Well, his plane did. Took off, I mean.
Oh, poop.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 14:56:18
Raine on 07/22/2008 14:56:18
John McCain read the book, "how to succeed at success, with out really succeeding"
It was a transcript, like his op ed piece, and was rejected.
It was a transcript, like his op ed piece, and was rejected.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:00:11
:spit:
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:00:11
Quote by TriSec:
News from JFK:
Livin just got off.
Well, his plane did. Took off, I mean.
Oh, poop.
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:01:55
TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:01:55
With all the attention on Autism this week....a question for our bloggers out there.
How much weight does the community at large give to the thimerisol connection (championed by Bobby Kennedy via Ring of Fire)?
How much weight does the community at large give to the thimerisol connection (championed by Bobby Kennedy via Ring of Fire)?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 15:09:11
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 15:09:11
If you don't recall Hanna Barbara, you are NOT Gen X :p
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 15:09:44
I have read a little on the subject and had my eye doctor caution me against ever using contact lens or saline solution with thimerisol - as an adult that is very concerning that they would use it as a preservative in vaccines for infants and children.
If a less questionable preservative can't be found, why not just live with a shorter shelf life?
FWIW
capt on 07/22/2008 15:09:44
Quote by TriSec:
With all the attention on Autism this week....a question for our bloggers out there.
How much weight does the community at large give to the thimerisol connection (championed by Bobby Kennedy via Ring of Fire)?
I have read a little on the subject and had my eye doctor caution me against ever using contact lens or saline solution with thimerisol - as an adult that is very concerning that they would use it as a preservative in vaccines for infants and children.
If a less questionable preservative can't be found, why not just live with a shorter shelf life?
FWIW
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:14:23
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:14:23
Really, They use thimerisol in contact lens stuff?
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 15:14:23
capt on 07/22/2008 15:14:23
The NYT's is one big fart joke if you ask me.
All corporate media smells of stale flatuence - even when they accidentally do a good piece or two.
All corporate media smells of stale flatuence - even when they accidentally do a good piece or two.
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:16:34
TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:16:34
Flight 197 has now reached cruise altitude (FL 32) and is proceeding at 441 KIAS somewhere south of the Finger Lakes.
Comment by Shane-O on 07/22/2008 15:16:38
Maybe we were both trying to fix it simultaneously? -- seems to work now...
Shane-O on 07/22/2008 15:16:38
Quote by Raine:
Ack! Shane, what was that you tube addee again? I was trying to fix the link... and I seem to have lost a number...
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 15:19:53
They did years ago - might still be in the cheap stuff or in other countries.
My eye doctor is a pal too so he might have been extra cautious with us (Joy's eye doctor too). He was unequivical and serious. He specifically warned that the crud would be on the shelves for years because of the long shelf life. UGH
His warnings were about a decade back, yep about 1999 or 1997? So . . .
I still check labels no matter what.
capt on 07/22/2008 15:19:53
Quote by Raine:
Really, They use thimerisol in contact lens stuff?
They did years ago - might still be in the cheap stuff or in other countries.
My eye doctor is a pal too so he might have been extra cautious with us (Joy's eye doctor too). He was unequivical and serious. He specifically warned that the crud would be on the shelves for years because of the long shelf life. UGH
His warnings were about a decade back, yep about 1999 or 1997? So . . .
I still check labels no matter what.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:22:52
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:22:52
From the Manchester Union Leader:
McCain spent most of the day in Maine, where he joined former President George H.W. Bush in Kennebunkport and later campaigned in Portland with the state's two Republican senators.
In Manchester last night, there was just one reporter and one photographer waiting for McCain as his plane -- a white, blue and gold Boeing 737-400 emblazoned with his campaign slogan, "Reform, Prosperity, Peace" -- touched down on the Wiggins Airways tarmac.
The Vietnam War veteran limped as he made his way down the metal stairway, a leather briefcase in one hand and a cell phone in the other, and walked straight into an awaiting Chevy Suburban.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:25:28
eep.
It was my understanding that it was only a few years ago that they stopped using thimerisol in immunization shots in the Untied States.
The pharma companies still put the stuff in for the things they ship overseas. And interestingly, autism is on the rise, worldwide.
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:25:28
Quote by capt:Quote by Raine:
Really, They use thimerisol in contact lens stuff?
They did years ago - might still be in the cheap stuff or in other countries.
My eye doctor is a pal too so he might have been extra cautious with us (Joy's eye doctor too). He was unequivical and serious. He specifically warned that the crud would be on the shelves for years because of the long shelf life. UGH
His warnings were about a decade back, yep about 1999 or 1997? So . . .
I still check labels no matter what.
It was my understanding that it was only a few years ago that they stopped using thimerisol in immunization shots in the Untied States.
The pharma companies still put the stuff in for the things they ship overseas. And interestingly, autism is on the rise, worldwide.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 15:27:27
capt on 07/22/2008 15:27:27
Mama is cracking me up!
Peda-files
Peda-files
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:29:48
starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:29:48
I would put MONEY on Pickles Bush filing on November 5th!
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 15:33:20
capt on 07/22/2008 15:33:20
A bag-o-pretzels would be cheaper, no?
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:34:49
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:34:49
This has been the contract with Leno for a long time.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 15:35:11
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 15:35:11
Cuz he's not funny.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:35:54
Oh yeah.
That is not a happy looking couple AT ALL.
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:35:54
Quote by starling310:
I would put MONEY on Pickles Bush filing on November 5th!
That is not a happy looking couple AT ALL.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:36:46
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:36:46
:bumblebee nickels... oh -- this bit never fails to amuse me...
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:37:51
starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:37:51
Momma's Irish accent!!!!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:38:17
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:38:17
:kickcan: My phone battery is charging this morning, I really wanted to call in and tell momma that Bush's new Deputy Chief of staff is Jenna's exboyfriend.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:39:50
starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:39:50
Dana Perino reminds me of every dumb girl in College, who got good grades strictly by flirting with the Professor.
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:43:03
TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:43:03
I've stood on that tarmac at Manchester Airport....even when there isn't a presidential candidate visiting, there's more activity than that.
Sounds like a snub to me.
In Republican NH, no less.
Sounds like a snub to me.
In Republican NH, no less.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 15:44:54
capt on 07/22/2008 15:44:54
McCain:
"If they want to bring up my age it's okay, why would I . . . er . . .where was I . ."
"If they want to bring up my age it's okay, why would I . . . er . . .where was I . ."
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:46:03
TriSec on 07/22/2008 15:46:03
Savage tries to justify comments
NEW YORK -- Radio talk show host Michael Savage, who described 99 percent of children with autism as brats, said Monday he was trying to "boldly awaken" parents to his view that many people are being wrongly diagnosed.
*snip*
Savage offered no apology in a message posted Monday on his Web site. He said greedy doctors and drug companies were creating a "national panic" by overdiagnosing autism, a mental disorder that inhibits a person's ability to communicate.
NEW YORK -- Radio talk show host Michael Savage, who described 99 percent of children with autism as brats, said Monday he was trying to "boldly awaken" parents to his view that many people are being wrongly diagnosed.
*snip*
Savage offered no apology in a message posted Monday on his Web site. He said greedy doctors and drug companies were creating a "national panic" by overdiagnosing autism, a mental disorder that inhibits a person's ability to communicate.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 15:47:45
The M$M is getting comical - with all the "McCain's strong suit" and "his advantage" WTF? They are more delusional than the effin NH GOP?
If the M$M is propping McCain up the landslide is going to be ugly. I don't think they will steal this one - I hope not.
capt on 07/22/2008 15:47:45
Quote by TriSec:
I've stood on that tarmac at Manchester Airport....even when there isn't a presidential candidate visiting, there's more activity than that.
Sounds like a snub to me.
In Republican NH, no less.
The M$M is getting comical - with all the "McCain's strong suit" and "his advantage" WTF? They are more delusional than the effin NH GOP?
If the M$M is propping McCain up the landslide is going to be ugly. I don't think they will steal this one - I hope not.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:48:01
starling310 on 07/22/2008 15:48:01
The EV-1 eas way cuter than the Chevy Volt! Just sayin. . .
And, why did GM scrap and Electric car just to come out with a new one?
It makes me suspicious. Did they actively plan to wait until people were in "Crisis Mode" so that they can charge double what the car would cost under normal circumstances? Is this another example of Corporate Shock Doctrine?
And, why did GM scrap and Electric car just to come out with a new one?
It makes me suspicious. Did they actively plan to wait until people were in "Crisis Mode" so that they can charge double what the car would cost under normal circumstances? Is this another example of Corporate Shock Doctrine?
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 15:53:02
Hmm.. you know you could possibly maybe be onto an idea , a theory, as it were, there
:P
Raine on 07/22/2008 15:53:02
Quote by starling310:
The EV-1 eas way cuter than the Chevy Volt! Just sayin. . .
And, why did GM scrap and Electric car just to come out with a new one?
It makes me suspicious. Did they actively plan to wait until people were in "Crisis Mode" so that they can charge double what the car would cost under normal circumstances? Is this another example of Corporate Shock Doctrine?
:P
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 15:57:23
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 15:57:23
I see far more Obama stickers here then I do McCain. There is a good chance to carry the state if they don't ignore us as is usually done.
Comment by 
BobR on 07/22/2008 16:00:26
BobR on 07/22/2008 16:00:26
morning, folks... 
:coffee2:
Or should I say: Good afternoon??
:P
:coffee2:Or should I say: Good afternoon??
:P
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 16:01:45
TriSec on 07/22/2008 16:01:45
I have not seen a single McCain bumper sticker, yard sign, or other visible show of support anywhere in this Commonwealth. (not entirely surprising.)
However, I have noticed more and more Obama things springing up around here.
However, I have noticed more and more Obama things springing up around here.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 16:11:46
capt on 07/22/2008 16:11:46
Here in NM more Obama signs - haven't yet seen a McCain sign or sticker. We had a bunch of Bush/Cheney bumperstickers but I never see them anymore.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 16:13:02
capt on 07/22/2008 16:13:02
Good morning Bobr!
Some of the best days start late or slowly.
Some of the best days start late or slowly.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 16:16:12
IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 16:16:12
I don't recall seeing any McCain stickers, but I still see "W" stickers, all faded and tattered, just like George and our rights. I see quite a few Obama stickers though. Most yard signs have been for local elections cuz they're a biggie in these here parts, but I've seen a few Obama signs here and there.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 16:16:32
Raine on 07/22/2008 16:16:32
We have ONE house in the area that has McCain AND Chambliss...
I must say that it is a surprise to see in this area of Atlanta.
I must say that it is a surprise to see in this area of Atlanta.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 16:19:34
Raine on 07/22/2008 16:19:34
I have seen 2 McCain bumper stickers, and I did 
them... but when Tri said he was gonna buy one because of that, I decided it probably wasn't the best use of the :boobs2:.
them... but when Tri said he was gonna buy one because of that, I decided it probably wasn't the best use of the :boobs2:.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 16:26:12
capt on 07/22/2008 16:26:12
With or without money we would have all the same stuff and be doing most of the same things.
I imagine trying to explain to someone from a different planet what money is and why some people have mountains while others starve or live on one dollar a day?
Maybe I watched too much Star Trek. .
I imagine trying to explain to someone from a different planet what money is and why some people have mountains while others starve or live on one dollar a day?
Maybe I watched too much Star Trek. .
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 16:33:09
Raine on 07/22/2008 16:33:09
The preacher said, you know you always have the Lord by your side. And I was so pleased to be informed of this that I ran twenty red-lights in his name. - The Rolling Stones, Far Away Eyes
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 16:36:34
TriSec on 07/22/2008 16:36:34
Liv passing by Kalamazoo, MI... They're fighting a wicked headwind, the flight is only making 381 knots right now.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 16:41:59
Being on top of his location bodes well for my "win some $$" vibes. I know better where to send them.
Not to mention it is just plain cool!
capt on 07/22/2008 16:41:59
Quote by TriSec:
Liv passing by Kalamazoo, MI... They're fighting a wicked headwind, the flight is only making 381 knots right now.
Being on top of his location bodes well for my "win some $$" vibes. I know better where to send them.
Not to mention it is just plain cool!
Comment by m-hadley on 07/22/2008 16:45:06
m-hadley on 07/22/2008 16:45:06
Rather Late Good Day to You All :D
I'm moving kinda sloooowww today :(
Hope you all are having a good one - did anybody catch Momma on the TeeVee this morning? Another excellent post TriSec (and thanks for the Livin updates :P) Did I just hear Thom say that Canada will reopen the 9/11 investigation on behalf of the 24 Canadians who died on that day? Funny, I guess that they found the US 9/11 Report somewhat suspect - imagine that :o
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
I'm moving kinda sloooowww today :(
Hope you all are having a good one - did anybody catch Momma on the TeeVee this morning? Another excellent post TriSec (and thanks for the Livin updates :P) Did I just hear Thom say that Canada will reopen the 9/11 investigation on behalf of the 24 Canadians who died on that day? Funny, I guess that they found the US 9/11 Report somewhat suspect - imagine that :o
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 16:54:55
Hi Faye!
I just posted a story you might enjoy about a certain Senator from Okie-land.
Raine on 07/22/2008 16:54:55
Quote by m-hadley:
Rather Late Good Day to You All :D
I'm moving kinda sloooowww today :(
Hope you all are having a good one - did anybody catch Momma on the TeeVee this morning? Another excellent post TriSec (and thanks for the Livin updates :P) Did I just hear Thom say that Canada will reopen the 9/11 investigation on behalf of the 24 Canadians who died on that day? Funny, I guess that they found the US 9/11 Report somewhat suspect - imagine that :o
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
I just posted a story you might enjoy about a certain Senator from Okie-land.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 16:57:58
capt on 07/22/2008 16:57:58
He had heard people speak contemptuously of money: he wondered if they had ever tried to do without it.
~ W. Somerset Maugham (1874 - 1965), 'Of Human Bondage', 1915
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:00:32
capt on 07/22/2008 17:00:32
Is the "Fed" a cash cartel?
Hmmmm
Hmmmm
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:03:08
capt on 07/22/2008 17:03:08
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:04:38
:: discuss ::
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:04:38
Quote by capt:
Is the "Fed" a cash cartel?
Hmmmm
:: discuss ::
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:07:35
A million people ( potentially ) to see a Foreign Leader!!!
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:07:35
Quote by capt:
A little set of 14 photos to see from Germany!
Photo Gallery: Berlin Prepares for Obama Speech
Attendance estimates range between 10,000 and 1 million.
A million people ( potentially ) to see a Foreign Leader!!!
Comment by m-hadley on 07/22/2008 17:08:54
Thanks mucho, Raine,
I'm not sure which one is worse - Inhofe or Coburn - unfortunately, they are each horrendous in their own unique ways...
I hope that Reid follows through with his plan to push through the blocked legislation.
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
m-hadley on 07/22/2008 17:08:54
Quote by Raine:
Harry Reid Calls Tom Colburn out...
Thanks mucho, Raine,
I'm not sure which one is worse - Inhofe or Coburn - unfortunately, they are each horrendous in their own unique ways...
I hope that Reid follows through with his plan to push through the blocked legislation.Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:09:20
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:09:20
Go Thom! Go Thom! Go Thom!
:: doin' the Cabbage Patch ::
Sit down Seton Modley!
Wooh! Wooh! :: raise the roof ::
:: doin' the Cabbage Patch ::
Sit down Seton Modley!
Wooh! Wooh! :: raise the roof ::
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:09:33
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:09:33
whine, whine, whine ?
?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:10:13
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:10:13
band?
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:10:20
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:10:20
:rofl: Katie Couric is the ANTI RUSH!!! :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:10:41
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:10:41
Rush Limbaugh could've followed Obama on his trip, couldn't he?
Is there a law against that?
Is there a law against that?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:10:47
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:10:47
doofus, they are ALREADY on the air
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:11:11
Stalker laws
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:11:11
Quote by starling310:
Rush Limbaugh could've followed Obama on his trip, couldn't he?
Is there a law against that?
Stalker laws
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:11:37
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:11:37
This guy is REALLY quite illogical... So 75,000 people came to see the *decemberists* and NOT barack obama.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:12:21
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:12:21
SCreechy!
Wow... is there a need to yell at thom, caller?
Wow... is there a need to yell at thom, caller?
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:12:22
He can't travel he has an anal cyst. (from the neck down)
capt on 07/22/2008 17:12:22
Quote by starling310:
Rush Limbaugh could've followed Obama on his trip, couldn't he?
Is there a law against that?
He can't travel he has an anal cyst. (from the neck down)
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:12:48
who are the decemberists?
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:12:48
Quote by Raine:
This guy is REALLY quite illogical... So 75,000 people came to see the *decemberists* and NOT barack obama.
who are the decemberists?
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:13:31
They are good, but seriously. I don't think they are packin' stadiums!
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:13:31
Quote by Raine:
This guy is REALLY quite illogical... So 75,000 people came to see the *decemberists* and NOT barack obama.
They are good, but seriously. I don't think they are packin' stadiums!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:13:44
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:13:44
This caller doesn't even understand what the hell Thom is saying.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:14:30
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:14:30
I found a picture of Seton Motley.
Here ya go:
:cry:
Here ya go:
:cry:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:15:03
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:15:03
Ya know the name calling really needs to stop
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:15:13
capt on 07/22/2008 17:15:13
All stations have to be run by the Reich.
Cheesus - these guys . . .
Cheesus - these guys . . .
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:15:28
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:15:28
Don't be mean to Thom, Seton. It makes angry! 
angry!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:15:38
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:15:38
Oh, man Thom has the patience of a saint.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:15:58
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:15:58
We won the war? 
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:16:41
capt on 07/22/2008 17:16:41
They don't want to report bad news - they are defense contractors.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:16:53
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:16:53
Wow. How insulting.. what an insulting arrogant wretched peice of something.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:17:09
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:17:09
This guy is just rude!
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:17:49
capt on 07/22/2008 17:17:49
When we disbanded the military the "war" was over - we were in charge. Since that day it has been an occupation.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:19:27
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:19:27
Maybe there is "more" coverage of Obama because he is actually doing some newsworthy things. Whereas, McCain is saying the same stuff over and over. With the exception of his Gaffes, there's nothing new to report. And, they do cover those!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:20:46
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:20:46
YEsterday on the LIBERAL media Show Hardball:
Andrea is letting her liberal bias show, for sure.
MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about access to the troops, Andrea. A lot of African-American faces over there, very happy, delighted faces. Is that a representation of the percentage of servicepeople who are African-American, or did they all choose to join someone they like, apparently? What's the story?
MITCHELL: I can't really say that. Being a reporter who was not present in any of those situations, I just cannot report on what was edited out, what was, you know, on the sidelines. That's my issue. We don't know what we are seeing.
Andrea is letting her liberal bias show, for sure.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:20:48
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:20:48
It's amazing what sore losers the wRight are!
We had 2 elections stolen! TWO!!!!
Get the f*ck over it, you douchebag.
F*ckin' Frank!
We had 2 elections stolen! TWO!!!!
Get the f*ck over it, you douchebag.
F*ckin' Frank!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:20:49
That guy was one of those people who just keeps poking ya until ya haul off and hit'em and then they call the police and you get charged with assault
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:20:49
Quote by Raine:
Oh, man Thom has the patience of a saint.
That guy was one of those people who just keeps poking ya until ya haul off and hit'em and then they call the police and you get charged with assault
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:21:46
seriously, who are they?
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:21:46
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
This guy is REALLY quite illogical... So 75,000 people came to see the *decemberists* and NOT barack obama.
who are the decemberists?
seriously, who are they?
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:22:33
THAT DOESN'T COUNT RAINE!
RAINE....
RAINE....
RAINE.....
RAINE, STOP TALKING!
STOP TALKING RAINE!
YOU'RE WRONG!
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
RAINE....
RAINE....
RAINE....
STOP TALKING!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:22:33
Quote by Raine:
YEsterday on the LIBERAL media Show Hardball:MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about access to the troops, Andrea. A lot of African-American faces over there, very happy, delighted faces. Is that a representation of the percentage of servicepeople who are African-American, or did they all choose to join someone they like, apparently? What's the story?
MITCHELL: I can't really say that. Being a reporter who was not present in any of those situations, I just cannot report on what was edited out, what was, you know, on the sidelines. That's my issue. We don't know what we are seeing.
Andrea is letting her liberal bias show, for sure.
THAT DOESN'T COUNT RAINE!
RAINE....
RAINE....
RAINE.....
RAINE, STOP TALKING!
STOP TALKING RAINE!
YOU'RE WRONG!
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
RAINE....
RAINE....
RAINE....
STOP TALKING!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:24:23
The Decemberists
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:24:23
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
This guy is REALLY quite illogical... So 75,000 people came to see the *decemberists* and NOT barack obama.
who are the decemberists?
seriously, who are they?
The Decemberists
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:24:37
capt on 07/22/2008 17:24:37
I couldn't do it. Thom is WAY more balanced than I am.
By staying on the subject and keeping his demeanor he is asserting his authority and leadership.
He also shows his intelligence.
It is impossible to not respect him and when the caller turns disrespectful Thom has won the argument.
By staying on the subject and keeping his demeanor he is asserting his authority and leadership.
He also shows his intelligence.
It is impossible to not respect him and when the caller turns disrespectful Thom has won the argument.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:25:06
:rofl: :rofl:
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:25:06
Quote by starling310:
I found a picture of Seton Motley.
Here ya go:
:cry:
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:25:59
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:25:59
How cool would it be to have Thom as your Dad?
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:26:51
Kee hee hee... :: snicker snicker ::
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:26:51
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
I found a picture of Seton Motley.
Here ya go:
:cry:
:rofl:
Kee hee hee... :: snicker snicker ::
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:26:54
capt on 07/22/2008 17:26:54
Notice the photo's on the Decemberists site? Not one of a 75,000 person crowd, not even one of 1,000 people. Now I'd assume they would hype a huge crowd if it was for them.
Just sayin'
Just sayin'
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:28:07
I'd have been a demon!!! I am oppositionally defiant
capt on 07/22/2008 17:28:07
Quote by starling310:
How cool would it be to have Thom as your Dad?
I'd have been a demon!!! I am oppositionally defiant
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:28:36
that is an understatement.
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:28:36
Quote by wickedpam:
This guy is just rude!
that is an understatement.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:29:15
capt on 07/22/2008 17:29:15
His punishment is easy - he has to share a cell with Bunnypants - for life.
POC
POC
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:30:50
Like I said, their music is good, but they're not The Rolling Stones!
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:30:50
Quote by capt:
Notice the photo's on the Decemberists site? Not one of a 75,000 person crowd, not even one of 1,000 people. Now I'd assume they would hype a huge crowd if it was for them.
Just sayin'
Like I said, their music is good, but they're not The Rolling Stones!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:32:11
Thanks, like the little snips of songs might have to download some. Other then that I have never heard of them. So thanks for the link :D
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:32:11
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
This guy is REALLY quite illogical... So 75,000 people came to see the *decemberists* and NOT barack obama.
who are the decemberists?
seriously, who are they?
The Decemberists
Thanks, like the little snips of songs might have to download some. Other then that I have never heard of them. So thanks for the link :D
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:32:33
BUT... I am trying to... BUT... BUT... What I mean is ... BUT....
BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....
BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....
you are a poopie head. I win.
:rofl:
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:32:33
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
YEsterday on the LIBERAL media Show Hardball:MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about access to the troops, Andrea. A lot of African-American faces over there, very happy, delighted faces. Is that a representation of the percentage of servicepeople who are African-American, or did they all choose to join someone they like, apparently? What's the story?
MITCHELL: I can't really say that. Being a reporter who was not present in any of those situations, I just cannot report on what was edited out, what was, you know, on the sidelines. That's my issue. We don't know what we are seeing.
Andrea is letting her liberal bias show, for sure.
THAT DOESN'T COUNT RAINE!
RAINE....
RAINE....
RAINE.....
RAINE, STOP TALKING!
STOP TALKING RAINE!
YOU'RE WRONG!
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
RAINE....
RAINE....
RAINE....
STOP TALKING!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
BUT... I am trying to... BUT... BUT... What I mean is ... BUT....
BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....
BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....BUT....
you are a poopie head. I win.
:rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:32:55
you crack me up! :lol:
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:32:55
you crack me up! :lol:
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:37:00
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:37:00
I hope OVSOHEHO LSOAIHPOVICH keeps a seat warm next to him for BUSH!
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:39:03
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:39:03
I make out well. . . . .
Or, so I've been told.
Or, so I've been told.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:39:33
capt on 07/22/2008 17:39:33
Bush started a war based on his trumped up lies. He violated the peace on this planet. Nothing is more important than to hold people that start illegal and unnecessary wars to account for their crimes.
That means Bush Cheney, Mugabe, et al
That means Bush Cheney, Mugabe, et al
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:40:00
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:40:00
I think they should take away "Ruggie."
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:40:12
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:40:12
Bill Richardson to John McCain: Quit whining.
HE really does look like a whiny baby, as do ALL of the righties.
HE really does look like a whiny baby, as do ALL of the righties.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:40:31
Give him a Jute Mat instead
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 17:40:31
Quote by starling310:
I think they should take away "Ruggie."
Give him a Jute Mat instead
Comment by BobR on 07/22/2008 17:43:32
I thought it was from the neck up... :P
BobR on 07/22/2008 17:43:32
Quote by capt:
He can't travel he has an anal cyst. (from the neck down)
I thought it was from the neck up... :P
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/22/2008 17:44:22
trojanrabbit on 07/22/2008 17:44:22
Good day all.
Weird week. Car's in the shop today, I'll be getting it back $500 lighter (O2 sensors, but after 150K miles I REALLY can't complain). So I had the wife's PT Cruiser, of which it's only saving grace AFAIC is that it has XM radio so I caught part of the 3rd hour of the SMS. Tried calling in about the old TV shows but by the time I called Stephanie was moving on to Tinsel Talk. At least I got to say hi to Rebekah.
Weird week. Car's in the shop today, I'll be getting it back $500 lighter (O2 sensors, but after 150K miles I REALLY can't complain). So I had the wife's PT Cruiser, of which it's only saving grace AFAIC is that it has XM radio so I caught part of the 3rd hour of the SMS. Tried calling in about the old TV shows but by the time I called Stephanie was moving on to Tinsel Talk. At least I got to say hi to Rebekah.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:44:45
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:44:45
Keith and Rachel!!! Wooh! Wooh! :: raise the roof ::
Do you think Keith started pushing for Rachel to be his fill in?
I just think it's very cute how much Keith seems to like her...in a brotherly way, of course.
It reminds me of 1 of my boy friends.
Do you think Keith started pushing for Rachel to be his fill in?
I just think it's very cute how much Keith seems to like her...in a brotherly way, of course.
It reminds me of 1 of my boy friends.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:46:05
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:46:05
That IS a good point, Mark.
Comment by BobR on 07/22/2008 17:47:28
BobR on 07/22/2008 17:47:28
Quote by starling310:
I make out well. . . . .
Or, so I've been told.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 17:47:54
BobR - 1
capt - 0
*right you are*
capt on 07/22/2008 17:47:54
Quote by BobR:Quote by capt:
He can't travel he has an anal cyst. (from the neck down)
I thought it was from the neck up... :P
BobR - 1
capt - 0
*right you are*
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:48:27
starling310 on 07/22/2008 17:48:27
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
I make out well. . . . .
Or, so I've been told.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 17:52:38
Raine on 07/22/2008 17:52:38
Comment by BobR on 07/22/2008 17:53:53
BobR on 07/22/2008 17:53:53
FYI to the Blog: I complained to our ISP about the downtime we've been experiencing lately; this is their response:
I just spoke with one of the admins and I do see that the server has been rebooted on a regular basis for the last few months. We are going to be working on this server as it has been rebooted too many times in the last months. Again my apologies for the amount of downtime you have had. I have credited your account with one free month of hosting. We should have things much more stable in a few days once we really get down to what is the issue causing the server to crash. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please let me know.
I just spoke with one of the admins and I do see that the server has been rebooted on a regular basis for the last few months. We are going to be working on this server as it has been rebooted too many times in the last months. Again my apologies for the amount of downtime you have had. I have credited your account with one free month of hosting. We should have things much more stable in a few days once we really get down to what is the issue causing the server to crash. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please let me know.
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 18:02:24
TriSec on 07/22/2008 18:02:24
Bob with the !!
!!
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 18:08:22
TriSec on 07/22/2008 18:08:22
Looks like flight 197 got out of the jet stream; they're up to FL 36 and 469 KIAS now. They're just crossing the line into Colorado, heading for the Continental Divide.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 18:18:18
I was trying to think of a bidet joke but . . .
capt on 07/22/2008 18:18:18
Quote by Raine:
Toilet Rains Hailstones -- enough to fill building...
Now that is a SHITTY day!
I was trying to think of a bidet joke but . . .
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:17:19
Not the actual cover, just a piece inside the magazine with the McCain cover art as a picture.
As far as I can tell, Vanity Fair is crashing browser so I can't confirm.
capt on 07/22/2008 19:17:19
Quote by Raine:
This is for real!!!
From Vanity Fair....
Not the actual cover, just a piece inside the magazine with the McCain cover art as a picture.
As far as I can tell, Vanity Fair is crashing browser so I can't confirm.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 19:18:20
starling310 on 07/22/2008 19:18:20
I am listening to Hour1 of Momma and the Mooks....the whole Gay Marriage, Governor with the Gay daughter story, Pink's "Dear Mr. President," etc.
:star: ------------------------->
:star: ------------------------->
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:18:29
capt on 07/22/2008 19:18:29
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:25:24
capt on 07/22/2008 19:25:24
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:27:56
capt on 07/22/2008 19:27:56
Just in case the WH or McCain have trouble with the translation - this time it is in English:
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:31:52
Are you saying the McCains are on the cover? At the top of the link is the August cover, "new wave" with four gals. Or am I missing something?
capt on 07/22/2008 19:31:52
Quote by Raine:
Here capt... I posted it in complete onthe MB.
Are you saying the McCains are on the cover? At the top of the link is the August cover, "new wave" with four gals. Or am I missing something?
Comment by TriSec on 07/22/2008 19:38:08
TriSec on 07/22/2008 19:38:08
I see Blue 197 on final now; looks like he's made it!
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:39:39
Woo Hoo!
and thank all that is good!
capt on 07/22/2008 19:39:39
Quote by TriSec:
I see Blue 197 on final now; looks like he's made it!
Woo Hoo!
and thank all that is good!
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:44:44
capt on 07/22/2008 19:44:44
The August 2008 Cover is: (I'm pretty sure)
Vanity Fair isn't smart (crazy) enough to run the McCain satire on the actual cover.
They should, the New Yorker should run it out of fairness but alas they will not.
Vanity Fair isn't smart (crazy) enough to run the McCain satire on the actual cover.
They should, the New Yorker should run it out of fairness but alas they will not.
Comment by BobR on 07/22/2008 19:54:15
Here's hoping he has some good luck while he's there. He's about due for some...
BobR on 07/22/2008 19:54:15
Quote by capt:
Woo Hoo!
and thank all that is good!
Here's hoping he has some good luck while he's there. He's about due for some...
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:56:25
capt on 07/22/2008 19:56:25
Quote by BobR:Quote by capt:
Woo Hoo!
and thank all that is good!
Here's hoping he has some good luck while he's there. He's about due for some...
Comment by BobR on 07/22/2008 19:56:25
BobR on 07/22/2008 19:56:25
The problem with the Vanity Fair McCain art is that it's truth, not satire...
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 19:57:30
They can't publish the truth, we are all still living in a house of cards in a windstorm.
capt on 07/22/2008 19:57:30
Quote by BobR:
The problem with the Vanity Fair McCain art is that it's truth, not satire...
They can't publish the truth, we are all still living in a house of cards in a windstorm.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/22/2008 19:58:21
ain't that the truth
wickedpam on 07/22/2008 19:58:21
Quote by BobR:Quote by capt:
Woo Hoo!
and thank all that is good!
Here's hoping he has some good luck while he's there. He's about due for some...
ain't that the truth
Comment by BobR on 07/22/2008 20:01:58
BobR on 07/22/2008 20:01:58
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 20:16:01
What's the scoop, Star!
Howard playing tape of the Savage Weiner with Glenn Beck - the weiner isn't so savage on TV. A limp weiner backing down from his stance, claiming he was taken out of context. Uh, yeah right, jerk off. 
IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 20:16:01
Quote by starling310:
Keith and Rachel!!! Wooh! Wooh! :: raise the roof ::
Do you think Keith started pushing for Rachel to be his fill in?
I just think it's very cute how much Keith seems to like her...in a brotherly way, of course.
It reminds me of 1 of my boy friends.
What's the scoop, Star!
Howard playing tape of the Savage Weiner with Glenn Beck - the weiner isn't so savage on TV. A limp weiner backing down from his stance, claiming he was taken out of context. Uh, yeah right, jerk off.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 20:21:55
Here's to Lucky Livin!
starling310 on 07/22/2008 20:21:55
Quote by capt:Quote by BobR:Quote by capt:
Woo Hoo!
and thank all that is good!
Here's hoping he has some good luck while he's there. He's about due for some...
Here's to Lucky Livin!
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 20:24:39
capt on 07/22/2008 20:24:39
A little keyboard activism - worth a look see! I signed it without reservation. How dare they "edit" real data. It is dishonest.
Census Petition
Census Petition
Dear Director Murdock:
I was dismayed to learn that, in taking the 2010 Census, the Bureau intends to "edit" the accurate responses of legally married same-sex couples to report them falsely as "unmarried partners." Such "editing" would not only be highly offensive, it would lead to the reporting of inaccurate demographic data, completely contrary to the Bureau's mission and goals.
Politics should have no place in the Census. Accuracy should be the only criterion.
Legally married same-sex couples who report themselves as such should be counted that way.
Sincerely,
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 20:29:44
I don't remember; nothing major though. Someone called into Thom and was talking about Keith and Rachel being the reasons that MSNBC's ratings have consistently been going up. And, I have been wondering if it was Keith's doing that has started to get Rachel on the air more. I mean, she is talented by her own right. But, I wonder if he encouraged the higher ups to have her fill in when he is off...It just seems like he genuinely likes and respects her. That's all.
Sorry...didn't mean to get ya excited!
starling310 on 07/22/2008 20:29:44
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by starling310:
Keith and Rachel!!! Wooh! Wooh! :: raise the roof ::
Do you think Keith started pushing for Rachel to be his fill in?
I just think it's very cute how much Keith seems to like her...in a brotherly way, of course.
It reminds me of 1 of my boy friends.
What's the scoop, Star!
Howard playing tape of the Savage Weiner with Glenn Beck - the weiner isn't so savage on TV. A limp weiner backing down from his stance, claiming he was taken out of context. Uh, yeah right, jerk off.
I don't remember; nothing major though. Someone called into Thom and was talking about Keith and Rachel being the reasons that MSNBC's ratings have consistently been going up. And, I have been wondering if it was Keith's doing that has started to get Rachel on the air more. I mean, she is talented by her own right. But, I wonder if he encouraged the higher ups to have her fill in when he is off...It just seems like he genuinely likes and respects her. That's all.
Sorry...didn't mean to get ya excited!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 20:37:27
Hope springs eternal I guess 
Sorry ... but the art is FABU!
Raine on 07/22/2008 20:37:27
Quote by capt:Quote by Raine:
Here capt... I posted it in complete onthe MB.
Are you saying the McCains are on the cover? At the top of the link is the August cover, "new wave" with four gals. Or am I missing something?
Sorry ... but the art is FABU!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 20:37:32
Hope springs eternal I guess Sorry ... but the art is FABU!
Raine on 07/22/2008 20:37:32
Quote by capt:Quote by Raine:
Here capt... I posted it in complete onthe MB.
Are you saying the McCains are on the cover? At the top of the link is the August cover, "new wave" with four gals. Or am I missing something?
Sorry ... but the art is FABU!
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 20:43:05
IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 20:43:05
Well, the were exciting! 
Evidently Rachel is on the short list and Tweety's contract expires next year. It won't be long before she's sitting in the dreaded make-up chair every day.
were exciting! Evidently Rachel is on the short list and Tweety's contract expires next year. It won't be long before she's sitting in the dreaded make-up chair every day.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 20:44:16
Raine on 07/22/2008 20:44:16
Wow. Check out this Kos Diary...
I am floored not only at the 3000 GI's, but what Tweety said on Leno...
I am floored not only at the 3000 GI's, but what Tweety said on Leno...
Comment by 
Random on 07/22/2008 20:48:55
Random on 07/22/2008 20:48:55
Random just got back from seeing "The Dark Knight".
The movie was painfully long. Decent story, decent acting from most of the people (I'm starting to hate Bale...), Ledger was a damn good joker.
That aside, this flick wouldn't be getting the buzz (Oscar or otherwise) If it weren't for Ledger's death (Or Suicide, depending on the rumor you heard).
Decent Flick, but too DAMN long.
The movie was painfully long. Decent story, decent acting from most of the people (I'm starting to hate Bale...), Ledger was a damn good joker.
That aside, this flick wouldn't be getting the buzz (Oscar or otherwise) If it weren't for Ledger's death (Or Suicide, depending on the rumor you heard).
Decent Flick, but too DAMN long.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 20:58:04
Raine on 07/22/2008 20:58:04
From the Atlantic Blog, Catie and Barack Spar... guess who loses? :P
Couric: But talking microcosmically, did the surge, the addition of 30,000 additional troops ... help the situation in Iraq?
Obama: Katie, as … you've asked me three different times, and I have said repeatedly that there is no doubt that our troops helped to reduce violence. There's no doubt.
Couric: But yet you're saying … given what you know now, you still wouldn't support it … so I'm just trying to understand this.
Obama: Because … it's pretty straightforward. By us putting $10 billion to $12 billion a month, $200 billion, that's money that could have gone into Afghanistan. Those additional troops could have gone into Afghanistan. That money also could have been used to shore up a declining economic situation in the United States. That money could have been applied to having a serious energy security plan so that we were reducing our demand on oil, which is helping to fund the insurgents in many countries. So those are all factors that would be taken into consideration in my decision-- to deal with a specific tactic or strategy inside of Iraq.
Couric: And I really don't mean to belabor this, Senator, because I'm really, I'm trying … to figure out your position. Do you think the level of security in Iraq …
Obama: Yes.
Couric … would exist today without the surge?
Obama: Katie, I have no idea what would have happened had we applied my approach, which was to put more pressure on the Iraqis to arrive at a political reconciliation. So this is all hypotheticals. What I can say is that there's no doubt that our U.S. troops have contributed to a reduction of violence in Iraq. I said that-- not just today, not just yesterday, but I've said that-- previously. What that doesn't change is that we've got to have a different strategic approach if we're going to make America as safe as possible.
Comment by starling310 on 07/22/2008 21:00:57
OMG RANDOM! Thank you. I thought it was just me. Everyone I know who has seen it was raving about how great it was. And, I keep thinking "Yeah. the first hour and a half were awesome." After that? It was all "Hey, let's dazzle people with special effects so they won't notice that the story is going nowhere!"
I checked my watch at least 5 times. . . never a good sign. The Pianist was long too ( ha. ha.) but, I didn't check the time once.
Heath Ledger was brilliant, however!!! Best Joker evah!
starling310 on 07/22/2008 21:00:57
Quote by Random:
Random just got back from seeing "The Dark Knight".
The movie was painfully long. Decent story, decent acting from most of the people (I'm starting to hate Bale...), Ledger was a damn good joker.
That aside, this flick wouldn't be getting the buzz (Oscar or otherwise) If it weren't for Ledger's death (Or Suicide, depending on the rumor you heard).
Decent Flick, but too DAMN long.
OMG RANDOM! Thank you. I thought it was just me. Everyone I know who has seen it was raving about how great it was. And, I keep thinking "Yeah. the first hour and a half were awesome." After that? It was all "Hey, let's dazzle people with special effects so they won't notice that the story is going nowhere!"
I checked my watch at least 5 times. . . never a good sign. The Pianist was long too ( ha. ha.) but, I didn't check the time once.
Heath Ledger was brilliant, however!!! Best Joker evah!
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 21:04:03
capt on 07/22/2008 21:04:03
Couric: So you agree with McCain, the surge is a success, we have succeeded and you Barack Obama were wrong just like Johnny sez?
Cheesus she is an pip, eh?
Barack seems to handle the media with grace and respect that is never condescending - unlike McCain.
Cheesus she is an pip, eh?
Barack seems to handle the media with grace and respect that is never condescending - unlike McCain.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:05:42
Our next door neighbor... a SERIOUS batman folllower... I mean he knows EVERY story adn incarnation etc... said the same thing... good movie half hour too long.
Hi Random!! :hug:
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:05:42
Quote by Random:
Random just got back from seeing "The Dark Knight".
The movie was painfully long. Decent story, decent acting from most of the people (I'm starting to hate Bale...), Ledger was a damn good joker.
That aside, this flick wouldn't be getting the buzz (Oscar or otherwise) If it weren't for Ledger's death (Or Suicide, depending on the rumor you heard).
Decent Flick, but too DAMN long.
Hi Random!! :hug:
Comment by Random on 07/22/2008 21:06:08
He was great...I loved the lil quirks he did. They should have gotten rid of most of the Dent stuff after the hospital scene with the joker...
That aside, i loved the lil bit he did on the street as the hospital was going up.
Random on 07/22/2008 21:06:08
Quote by starling310:Quote by Random:
Random just got back from seeing "The Dark Knight".
The movie was painfully long. Decent story, decent acting from most of the people (I'm starting to hate Bale...), Ledger was a damn good joker.
That aside, this flick wouldn't be getting the buzz (Oscar or otherwise) If it weren't for Ledger's death (Or Suicide, depending on the rumor you heard).
Decent Flick, but too DAMN long.
OMG RANDOM! Thank you. I thought it was just me. Everyone I know who has seen it was raving about how great it was. And, I keep thinking "Yeah. the first hour and a half were awesome." After that? It was all "Hey, let's dazzle people with special effects so they won't notice that the story is going nowhere!"
I checked my watch at least 5 times. . . never a good sign. The Pianist was long too ( ha. ha.) but, I didn't check the time once.
Heath Ledger was brilliant, however!!! Best Joker evah!
He was great...I loved the lil quirks he did. They should have gotten rid of most of the Dent stuff after the hospital scene with the joker...
That aside, i loved the lil bit he did on the street as the hospital was going up.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 21:06:55
IzzyBitz on 07/22/2008 21:06:55
I felt the same way about Ironman, Star. The first half-hour could have been cut in half and then the special effects took over where the story basically ended. I can suspend reality, but this movie really pushed me to the limit.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 21:08:10
capt on 07/22/2008 21:08:10
Thanks for the heads up on the flick.
I can't sit still for more than about an hour so I'll be watching it when it comes on the TV/Dishnet.
I can't sit still for more than about an hour so I'll be watching it when it comes on the TV/Dishnet.
Comment by Random on 07/22/2008 21:10:22
Hi Raine!!
Random on 07/22/2008 21:10:22
Quote by Raine:
Hi Random!! :hug:
Hi Raine!!
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:14:01
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:14:01
Could you IMAGINE what the media would do if Obama said this of McCain?
HE is basically accusing Barack Obama of wanting to commit treason. That nasty smirking lil MoFo. Look at that smile at the end.
:rage:
HE is basically accusing Barack Obama of wanting to commit treason. That nasty smirking lil MoFo. Look at that smile at the end.
:rage:
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:16:38
In this case, A little condescention would have been MORE than forgivable.
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:16:38
Quote by capt:
Couric: So you agree with McCain, the surge is a success, we have succeeded and you Barack Obama were wrong just like Johnny sez?
Cheesus she is an pip, eh?
Barack seems to handle the media with grace and respect that is never condescending - unlike McCain.
Comment by Random on 07/22/2008 21:20:36
well, remember, I also said V for Vendetta sucked.
Random on 07/22/2008 21:20:36
Quote by capt:
Thanks for the heads up on the flick.
I can't sit still for more than about an hour so I'll be watching it when it comes on the TV/Dishnet.
well, remember, I also said V for Vendetta sucked.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:23:42
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:23:42
Wha??? McCain alludes to leaving Iraq in LESS than 16 months?
From the NYT:
[...]Nevertheless, the Maliki interview has created a problem for the McCain camp, and the surrogates’ remarks reflected that. At first, they seemed to be endorsing the notion of a timeline, with Representative Wilson saying that Mr. McCain would “like troops to come home earlier than 16 months if the conditions allowed it.”
But when reporters seized on that statement, they then suggested that Mr. McCain will agree to a withdrawal of American troops only when General Petraeus or his successor deem it appropriate to leave.
Rather than the “artificial and arbitrary timetable” Mr. Obama has proposed, an American withdrawal should be contingent upon two things, Mr. Scheuemann said: “the advice of our military commanders and conditions on the ground,” especially “the ability of Iraqi forces to provide for their own security.” It was not clear from his statement whether the Iraqi government would also have a voice in making such a determination.
“The important thing is that our troops come home with victory and our vital national interests secured,” Representative Wilson said when asked about her earlier statement. “That is the difference between John McCain and Senator Obama.”
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What a load of Horseshite.
From the NYT:
[...]Nevertheless, the Maliki interview has created a problem for the McCain camp, and the surrogates’ remarks reflected that. At first, they seemed to be endorsing the notion of a timeline, with Representative Wilson saying that Mr. McCain would “like troops to come home earlier than 16 months if the conditions allowed it.”
But when reporters seized on that statement, they then suggested that Mr. McCain will agree to a withdrawal of American troops only when General Petraeus or his successor deem it appropriate to leave.
Rather than the “artificial and arbitrary timetable” Mr. Obama has proposed, an American withdrawal should be contingent upon two things, Mr. Scheuemann said: “the advice of our military commanders and conditions on the ground,” especially “the ability of Iraqi forces to provide for their own security.” It was not clear from his statement whether the Iraqi government would also have a voice in making such a determination.
“The important thing is that our troops come home with victory and our vital national interests secured,” Representative Wilson said when asked about her earlier statement. “That is the difference between John McCain and Senator Obama.”
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What a load of Horseshite.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:27:38
That was the one you didn't see , right?
(I get so confuzd sumtymes)
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:27:38
Quote by Random:Quote by capt:
Thanks for the heads up on the flick.
I can't sit still for more than about an hour so I'll be watching it when it comes on the TV/Dishnet.
well, remember, I also said V for Vendetta sucked.
(I get so confuzd sumtymes)
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 21:27:44
I have never seen "V" so I agree!
We almost NEVER go to the movies and the real popular ones - fuggetaboutit too crowded.
capt on 07/22/2008 21:27:44
Quote by Random:Quote by capt:
Thanks for the heads up on the flick.
I can't sit still for more than about an hour so I'll be watching it when it comes on the TV/Dishnet.
well, remember, I also said V for Vendetta sucked.
I have never seen "V" so I agree!
We almost NEVER go to the movies and the real popular ones - fuggetaboutit too crowded.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:37:07
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:37:07
Robert Novak thinks he was *Duped* by the McCain campaign...
What an ass. The prince of darkness thinks it's *reprehensible*, I think I may throw up.
What an ass. The prince of darkness thinks it's *reprehensible*, I think I may throw up.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:45:17
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:45:17
Did y'all know that the King of Jordan drove Barack Obama to the Airport?
Do you know why????
Thanks Condi...
Do you know why????
Thanks Condi...
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 21:52:33
2 cool 4 school!
I bet they took the opportunity to discuss things.
I like it.
I have a trust in Obama that I haven't had in my entire life - not for any other politician. I know he is not perfect but I trust him.
capt on 07/22/2008 21:52:33
Quote by Raine:
Obama's Royal Escort.
2 cool 4 school!
I bet they took the opportunity to discuss things.
I like it.
I have a trust in Obama that I haven't had in my entire life - not for any other politician. I know he is not perfect but I trust him.
Comment by Raine on 07/22/2008 21:55:16
This one, you gotta see... Seriously... Here is the article that goes with it.
It takes a drunk to talk about a hangover, you know.
Raine on 07/22/2008 21:55:16
This one, you gotta see... Seriously... Here is the article that goes with it.
It takes a drunk to talk about a hangover, you know.
Comment by capt on 07/22/2008 23:16:34
I wouldn't believe Novak. He is just the worst tool. He is always the victim. UGH
capt on 07/22/2008 23:16:34
Quote by Raine:
Robert Novak thinks he was *Duped* by the McCain campaign...
What an ass. The prince of darkness thinks it's *reprehensible*, I think I may throw up.
I wouldn't believe Novak. He is just the worst tool. He is always the victim. UGH
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 00:00:55
capt on 07/23/2008 00:00:55
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 00:08:46
capt on 07/23/2008 00:08:46
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 00:22:33
livingonli on 07/23/2008 00:22:33
Greetings from Caesars Palace. I got into the hotel a few hours ago and am watching Countdown while deciding what to do for dinner. I may stay close by since I am feeling a little lazy. As soon as I got here, I showered and then spent some time down at the pool and I discovered my sunscreen got all mushed in my bag so I have to get more.
On the plane, I was trying to Steph on XM but the plane lost the signal on America Left and a few other channels although they seemed to have know problem with the 4 XM channels airing right-wing talk. But the signal did come back heading towards Nevada so I did listen to a little of Harrison filling in for Randi.
On the plane, I was trying to Steph on XM but the plane lost the signal on America Left and a few other channels although they seemed to have know problem with the 4 XM channels airing right-wing talk.
But the signal did come back heading towards Nevada so I did listen to a little of Harrison filling in for Randi.
Comment by m-hadley on 07/23/2008 00:24:42
m-hadley on 07/23/2008 00:24:42
Heya Kids,
For those of ya'll who can still reproduce - here's some scary news: An Outrageous Attempt by the Bush Administration to Undermine Women's Rights - apparently BushCo is trying to get the HHS to relabel birth control as "abortion" so that it won't have to provide it via insurance or medicaid - that's some sleazy, nevermind scary, sh*t...
Cheers (I guess )
mfaye
For those of ya'll who can still reproduce - here's some scary news: An Outrageous Attempt by the Bush Administration to Undermine Women's Rights - apparently BushCo is trying to get the HHS to relabel birth control as "abortion" so that it won't have to provide it via insurance or medicaid - that's some sleazy, nevermind scary, sh*t...
Cheers (I guess
)mfaye
Comment by m-hadley on 07/23/2008 00:26:33
m-hadley on 07/23/2008 00:26:33
Heya Livin,
Enjoy your vacation - god knows you deserve one And clean up on the craps table or black jack or whatever you game of choice is!
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Enjoy your vacation - god knows you deserve one
And clean up on the craps table or black jack or whatever you game of choice is! Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 00:28:35
It's the whole religious right anti-sex agenda. I still have to dig it up, but there was an old article in The Nation back in 1990 which really went into how the anti-choice movement was more about controlling women's sexuality than the "right to life".
livingonli on 07/23/2008 00:28:35
Quote by m-hadley:
Heya Kids,
For those of ya'll who can still reproduce - here's some scary news: An Outrageous Attempt by the Bush Administration to Undermine Women's Rights - apparently BushCo is trying to get the HHS to relabel birth control as "abortion" so that it won't have to provide it via insurance or medicaid - that's some sleazy, nevermind scary, sh*t...
Cheers (I guess
mfaye
It's the whole religious right anti-sex agenda. I still have to dig it up, but there was an old article in The Nation back in 1990 which really went into how the anti-choice movement was more about controlling women's sexuality than the "right to life".
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 00:47:58
capt on 07/23/2008 00:47:58
A great source for the how's and why's of the GOP and the regressives:
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
It has been a solid source on about a hundred issues. Dig in there but wear a seat belt, bring a barf bag and a kitty to pet to bring down the blood pressure.
LIV! - so glad to hear you are there and having to face the real hard questions like "what's for dinner?"
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
It has been a solid source on about a hundred issues. Dig in there but wear a seat belt, bring a barf bag and a kitty to pet to bring down the blood pressure.
LIV! - so glad to hear you are there and having to face the real hard questions like "what's for dinner?"
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 01:13:08
Raine on 07/23/2008 01:13:08
Whew... had a storm roll thru, knocked out the internets and the cable... The internets seems to be back up ... but the cable, not so much.
It's all good tho, I got to read some of one of my favorite books... The Andy Warhol Diaries
It's all good tho, I got to read some of one of my favorite books... The Andy Warhol Diaries
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 01:14:53
capt on 07/23/2008 01:14:53
Ever read "Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance?"
If not, it isn't about motorcycle maintenance - a little about zen.
If not, it isn't about motorcycle maintenance - a little about zen.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 01:21:06
capt on 07/23/2008 01:21:06
The Obama presser had a second part:
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 01:25:11
Raine on 07/23/2008 01:25:11
I am glad that I can catch the 10 pm rerun of KO.
:heart: Faye! that story is outrageous!
:heart: Faye! that story is outrageous!
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 01:27:48
you know, I have not read it.
It has been on my list of books to read. It's one of those books I KNOW I should have read YEARS ago... I was stupid and reading about Zen shit instead... :P
This weekend I will walk down to the used bookstore and see about getting a copy.
Raine on 07/23/2008 01:27:48
Quote by capt:
Ever read "Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance?"
If not, it isn't about motorcycle maintenance - a little about zen.
you know, I have not read it.
It has been on my list of books to read. It's one of those books I KNOW I should have read YEARS ago... I was stupid and reading about Zen shit instead... :P
This weekend I will walk down to the used bookstore and see about getting a copy.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 01:38:37
It really is a good book. A little slow at first but from about chapter 3 on it had my full attention. Then I read it again after about a decade - same thing.
I have never known anybody that didn't like it. There are whole studies on it that read more into than I ever got.
capt on 07/23/2008 01:38:37
Quote by Raine:Quote by capt:
Ever read "Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance?"
If not, it isn't about motorcycle maintenance - a little about zen.
you know, I have not read it.
It has been on my list of books to read. It's one of those books I KNOW I should have read YEARS ago... I was stupid and reading about Zen shit instead... :P
This weekend I will walk down to the used bookstore and see about getting a copy.
It really is a good book. A little slow at first but from about chapter 3 on it had my full attention. Then I read it again after about a decade - same thing.
I have never known anybody that didn't like it. There are whole studies on it that read more into than I ever got.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 01:41:47
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 01:41:47
Zounds! Mondo has returned to the home place. Me likee the KO at 1o pm too. Gym, the Borders to spend the gift card from incentive crap at work.
Best o Sam y Dave
Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
Tom "The Gravel Fog" Waits Alice
Ray Charles The Definitive Soul Collection
:dance: :banana:
Best o Sam y Dave
Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
Tom "The Gravel Fog" Waits Alice
Ray Charles The Definitive Soul Collection
:dance: :banana:
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 01:44:45
I posted the story on the MB... I hope this story is sent out ALL over the place.
Personally I think we should -- if this is what they REALLY want to do -- we should consider every friggin wasted sperm an abortion...
And yes... I am talking about THAT kinda sperm.
Raine on 07/23/2008 01:44:45
Quote by m-hadley:
Heya Kids,
For those of ya'll who can still reproduce - here's some scary news: An Outrageous Attempt by the Bush Administration to Undermine Women's Rights - apparently BushCo is trying to get the HHS to relabel birth control as "abortion" so that it won't have to provide it via insurance or medicaid - that's some sleazy, nevermind scary, sh*t...
Cheers (I guess
mfaye
I posted the story on the MB... I hope this story is sent out ALL over the place.
Personally I think we should -- if this is what they REALLY want to do -- we should consider every friggin wasted sperm an abortion...
And yes... I am talking about THAT kinda sperm.
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 01:45:11
capt on 07/23/2008 01:45:11
Not a Gaffe: A Fundemental Misunderstanding of Iraq
The last paragraph at the link really sums it up.
I think the GOP will dump McCain - somehow, he is not doing well at all. Now after begging Barack to go to Iraq he is whining about it? Nobody is missing the point and his gaffe after gaffe is making all the GOP take stock. Can they really try to ride this old horse into battle? Losing down ticket all over, releasing their incumbent senators to say anything, pander to whomsoever it takes to get re-elected?
The last paragraph at the link really sums it up.
I think the GOP will dump McCain - somehow, he is not doing well at all. Now after begging Barack to go to Iraq he is whining about it? Nobody is missing the point and his gaffe after gaffe is making all the GOP take stock. Can they really try to ride this old horse into battle? Losing down ticket all over, releasing their incumbent senators to say anything, pander to whomsoever it takes to get re-elected?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 01:46:22
Bull sperm sold to Iran?
capt on 07/23/2008 01:46:22
Quote by Raine:Quote by m-hadley:
Heya Kids,
For those of ya'll who can still reproduce - here's some scary news: An Outrageous Attempt by the Bush Administration to Undermine Women's Rights - apparently BushCo is trying to get the HHS to relabel birth control as "abortion" so that it won't have to provide it via insurance or medicaid - that's some sleazy, nevermind scary, sh*t...
Cheers (I guess
mfaye
I posted the story on the MB... I hope this story is sent out ALL over the place.
Personally I think we should -- if this is what they REALLY want to do -- we should consider every friggin wasted sperm an abortion...
And yes... I am talking about THAT kinda sperm.
Bull sperm sold to Iran?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 01:48:09
capt on 07/23/2008 01:48:09
We need to save the eggs too?
Every egg is a potential chicken so . . .
Every egg is a potential chicken so . . .
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 01:55:26
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 01:55:26
Now Playing: Kill The Poor/ Dead Kennedys. :stage dives off couch, slam dances with cats:
:stage dives off couch, slam dances with cats:
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 01:58:08
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 01:58:08
Oh, poor Lesbos, they didn't get "lesbian" banned. I'm not kiddin. I have the of Abrams on in anticipation o KO.
Comment by BobR on 07/23/2008 01:59:12
Since when did Bush become a catholic??
BobR on 07/23/2008 01:59:12
Quote by Raine:
I posted the story on the MB... I hope this story is sent out ALL over the place.
Personally I think we should -- if this is what they REALLY want to do -- we should consider every friggin wasted sperm an abortion...
And yes... I am talking about THAT kinda sperm.
Since when did Bush become a catholic??
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:01:50
I think Monty Python said it best
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:01:50
Quote by capt:
We need to save the eggs too?
Every egg is a potential chicken so . . .
I think Monty Python said it best
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:03:57
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:03:57
KO looks grayer in LA! Hmmmm. I need a professionals opinion. Liv, what up with that? Different lighting, camera etc?
Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 02:04:37
Monty Python ALWAYS says it best!
capt on 07/23/2008 02:04:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by capt:
We need to save the eggs too?
Every egg is a potential chicken so . . .
I think Monty Python said it best
Monty Python ALWAYS says it best!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:05:08
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:05:08
BOBBER! OUT OF MY HEAD!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:22:09
Mondobubba on 07/23/2008 02:22:09
Why would the local Fox Noise radio station, featuring conservative talk radio do an ad on MSNBC between 10 and 11 on a weeknight? Yep good market research you Fox boneheads!
I give you WBOB Jacksonville's own O'Reilly outlet.
Yep good market research you Fox boneheads! I give you WBOB Jacksonville's own O'Reilly outlet.
Comment by livingonli on 07/23/2008 04:20:32
As Bugs Bunny would say, "It's a possibility". :shrug:
It probably helps that the LA crew is probably less familiar with dealing with Keith than the New York crew. The New York crew probably works to keep him looking youngish.
livingonli on 07/23/2008 04:20:32
Quote by Mondobubba:
KO looks grayer in LA! Hmmmm. I need a professionals opinion. Liv, what up with that? Different lighting, camera etc?
As Bugs Bunny would say, "It's a possibility". :shrug:
It probably helps that the LA crew is probably less familiar with dealing with Keith than the New York crew. The New York crew probably works to keep him looking youngish.
Comment by BobR on 07/23/2008 04:37:21
I thought his hair looked fluffier, less gelled in place...
BobR on 07/23/2008 04:37:21
Quote by livingonli:
As Bugs Bunny would say, "It's a possibility". :shrug:
It probably helps that the LA crew is probably less familiar with dealing with Keith than the New York crew. The New York crew probably works to keep him looking youngish.
I thought his hair looked fluffier, less gelled in place...
Comment by BobR on 07/23/2008 05:07:12
BobR on 07/23/2008 05:07:12
Comment by Raine on 07/23/2008 05:25:07
This is the end game. CBS tried to cover this up...
They tried and failed, this is is moment --- his dukakis moment... only this time... it is words... not a silly picture to be misunderstood.
I posted on this at the MB. This is what I said there, and now, here:
This isn't confusing Czechoslovakia with the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
This isn't confusing Iran with training Al Qaida members.
This isn't confusing Iraq and Iran.
This isn't confusing Iraq and Afghanistan.
This isn't even confusing the fact that Iraq and Pakistan don't even share a border.
John McCain slipped on ALL of those issues... EVERY ONE OF THEM... and this is NOT about that.
John McCain claims, over and over again... that his strongest aspect is foreign policy.
The gaffe McCain has just made is inexcusable for someone running for President, especially one who claims he was right about the surge.
If you are right about the surge, you should KNOW the history of the surge. John McCain does not.
========================================
:grumble:
Raine on 07/23/2008 05:25:07
Quote by capt:
Not a Gaffe: A Fundemental Misunderstanding of Iraq
The last paragraph at the link really sums it up.
I think the GOP will dump McCain - somehow, he is not doing well at all. Now after begging Barack to go to Iraq he is whining about it? Nobody is missing the point and his gaffe after gaffe is making all the GOP take stock. Can they really try to ride this old horse into battle? Losing down ticket all over, releasing their incumbent senators to say anything, pander to whomsoever it takes to get re-elected?
They tried and failed, this is is moment --- his dukakis moment... only this time... it is words... not a silly picture to be misunderstood.
I posted on this at the MB. This is what I said there, and now, here:
This isn't confusing Czechoslovakia with the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
This isn't confusing Iran with training Al Qaida members.
This isn't confusing Iraq and Iran.
This isn't confusing Iraq and Afghanistan.
This isn't even confusing the fact that Iraq and Pakistan don't even share a border.
John McCain slipped on ALL of those issues... EVERY ONE OF THEM... and this is NOT about that.
John McCain claims, over and over again... that his strongest aspect is foreign policy.
The gaffe McCain has just made is inexcusable for someone running for President, especially one who claims he was right about the surge.
If you are right about the surge, you should KNOW the history of the surge. John McCain does not.
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Comment by capt on 07/23/2008 11:52:16
Get this spread all over. . .
capt on 07/23/2008 11:52:16
Get this spread all over. . .