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Republican Psychoanalysis 101
Author: BobR
Date: 07/30/2008 12:21:56
I had an experience lately that got me thinking about right-wingers and why they think they way they do. As some of you may know, I have a second job at a pizza place. One of my coworkers is a right-winger, and we get along despite this obvious character flaw. I had shown her the letter to the editor I had gotten published regarding drilling for oil, and she tried to correct my "misperceptions". Next to it was a letter regarding Michael Weiner Savage, and she said "I love him". I said he was an asshole and she said "that's why I love him". I mentioned his comments on autistic children and she said "he's right - I have a friend that runs a day care center and she said...". There was some crosstalk (and I had to leave to make a delivery), but then she said "I don't believe in ADD either".
I was livid. It reminded me of a neighbor I used to have who was a staunch Republican who hated Mexicans, was pro-war, and put her dog's food dish down for 10 minutes every day. If he didn't eat, she'd pick up the dish and he'd have to wait until the next day to eat. I never got an explanation from her for this unnecessary authoritarian approach, but she simply proclaimed that she didn't "free feed".
Notice the word "free".
These types seem to come in various flavors with various pet fanaticisms, but the one trait they all seem to have in common is that they are angry that someone somewhere is getting something they didn't earn or don't deserve. They are angry that someone is "getting away with it", getting a free ride, not being properly punished for their behavior.
Imagine a Mexican person standing by the side of the road in the middle of a workday. The Republican will look and think "that lazy bastard, using our system for free healthcare and foodstamps, and my hard-working tax dollars paying for it!" (have you ever met a Republican that wasn't "hard-working"?
). The Democrat will look and think "that poor bastard - so far from home and can't find work. I wonder how he gets by?".
You could substitute "black" for "Mexican" and get nearly the same reaction. A white person would probably generate an entirely different reaction (sadly, for both the Republican AND the Democrat, but that's a different essay for another day).
Republicans seem to be against abortion because "someone is getting away with sex for fun" as much as for religious reasons. They're against taxes because some are being used to help out the "lazy welfare queens" (so naturally they're against Welfare and food stamps). They're for the death penalty and harsh sentences. They're for bombing anyone that criticizes the U.S. They're likely against gay sex because they know gays can have as much sex as they want and not have to worry about pregnancy. They're for school vouchers and NCLB because "bad schools" aren't getting properly punished for poor performance.
It seems to essentially come down to deep-seated anger and dissatisfaction. Neither of the women I mentioned seem "happy". I know other Republicans, and they too seem grumpy all the time, complaining about this or that. The only smiles I see are dripping with sarcasm and cynicism. There's a smirky smile when one of their targets (immigrants, arabs, liberals, or the unemployed) gets their "comeuppance".
Most liberals I know are angry with the state of affairs in the country, but are nonetheless relentlessly upbeat, understanding, and forgiving. They smile easily.
Republicans want to be the stern mother with the paddle in her hand, lording it over the kids and threatening them with a beating should they step out of line. Democrats want to be the loving mother that keeps the kids happy, thriving and thus behaving.
Perhaps it's all about how we were raised... and how some of us overcame it anyway.
Just a thought...
I was livid. It reminded me of a neighbor I used to have who was a staunch Republican who hated Mexicans, was pro-war, and put her dog's food dish down for 10 minutes every day. If he didn't eat, she'd pick up the dish and he'd have to wait until the next day to eat. I never got an explanation from her for this unnecessary authoritarian approach, but she simply proclaimed that she didn't "free feed".
Notice the word "free".
These types seem to come in various flavors with various pet fanaticisms, but the one trait they all seem to have in common is that they are angry that someone somewhere is getting something they didn't earn or don't deserve. They are angry that someone is "getting away with it", getting a free ride, not being properly punished for their behavior.
Imagine a Mexican person standing by the side of the road in the middle of a workday. The Republican will look and think "that lazy bastard, using our system for free healthcare and foodstamps, and my hard-working tax dollars paying for it!" (have you ever met a Republican that wasn't "hard-working"?
). The Democrat will look and think "that poor bastard - so far from home and can't find work. I wonder how he gets by?". You could substitute "black" for "Mexican" and get nearly the same reaction. A white person would probably generate an entirely different reaction (sadly, for both the Republican AND the Democrat, but that's a different essay for another day).
Republicans seem to be against abortion because "someone is getting away with sex for fun" as much as for religious reasons. They're against taxes because some are being used to help out the "lazy welfare queens" (so naturally they're against Welfare and food stamps). They're for the death penalty and harsh sentences. They're for bombing anyone that criticizes the U.S. They're likely against gay sex because they know gays can have as much sex as they want and not have to worry about pregnancy. They're for school vouchers and NCLB because "bad schools" aren't getting properly punished for poor performance.
It seems to essentially come down to deep-seated anger and dissatisfaction. Neither of the women I mentioned seem "happy". I know other Republicans, and they too seem grumpy all the time, complaining about this or that. The only smiles I see are dripping with sarcasm and cynicism. There's a smirky smile when one of their targets (immigrants, arabs, liberals, or the unemployed) gets their "comeuppance".
Most liberals I know are angry with the state of affairs in the country, but are nonetheless relentlessly upbeat, understanding, and forgiving. They smile easily.
Republicans want to be the stern mother with the paddle in her hand, lording it over the kids and threatening them with a beating should they step out of line. Democrats want to be the loving mother that keeps the kids happy, thriving and thus behaving.
Perhaps it's all about how we were raised... and how some of us overcame it anyway.
Just a thought...
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Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 12:36:15
velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 12:36:15
Excellent points BobR. Though I would say that "unhappy" or pissed off Republicans is a generalization. I certainly know some (Al From WV comes to mind) that seem content and happy. Maybe they have a certain thing we call: brains/smart.
Ya know, here's a subject that is rarely talked about. We would not have all these (black) welfare moms if we, as a Nation, had not screwed up Reconstruction! After the Civil War, we set all the slaves free........... with nothing. How did they think that was gonna turn out? Hmmm?
Ya know, here's a subject that is rarely talked about. We would not have all these (black) welfare moms if we, as a Nation, had not screwed up Reconstruction! After the Civil War, we set all the slaves free........... with nothing. How did they think that was gonna turn out? Hmmm?
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/30/2008 12:41:44
Shane-O on 07/30/2008 12:41:44
First - may I comment - yay! 4F is back!!!
BobR - your post is thought provoking. I agree with your observations - and might I add (or suggest) that while accurate, the broad portrayal does not apply to all Republican or all Democrats?
There are the outliers... the occasional happy Conservative and the sometimes depressing Liberal...
BobR - your post is thought provoking. I agree with your observations - and might I add (or suggest) that while accurate, the broad portrayal does not apply to all Republican or all Democrats?
There are the outliers... the occasional happy Conservative and the sometimes depressing Liberal...
Comment by 
Scoopster on 07/30/2008 12:46:36
Scoopster on 07/30/2008 12:46:36
Morning all! :banana:
Ok first thing first..
pillow - check!
tubing - check!
steady supply of quality information from the internets - check!
Now inserting the mainline... Okay, just a lil pinprick.....
So good to be back on the bloggie!! :hug:
Ok first thing first..
pillow - check!
tubing - check!
steady supply of quality information from the internets - check!
Now inserting the mainline... Okay, just a lil pinprick.....
So good to be back on the bloggie!! :hug:
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 12:51:56
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 12:51:56
Morning :hug:
Hmmm - have to say, as Vel did, thought provoking opening this morning. Not sure about generalizing one side or the other. I don't think anyone is that cut and dried, I certianaly have my pissed off moments and I don't like to see people who break the rules get away with it. Suppose it's more a jealously issue, cause I know when I try to break the rules I usally get caught.
As for the person on the side of the road - usually my first thought it is "damn, hope they don't get hit"
Hmmm - have to say, as Vel did, thought provoking opening this morning. Not sure about generalizing one side or the other. I don't think anyone is that cut and dried, I certianaly have my pissed off moments and I don't like to see people who break the rules get away with it. Suppose it's more a jealously issue, cause I know when I try to break the rules I usally get caught.
As for the person on the side of the road - usually my first thought it is "damn, hope they don't get hit"
Comment by 
Random on 07/30/2008 12:53:41
Random on 07/30/2008 12:53:41
Hm...Interesting. Liberals are the L.A. Mothers trying to reason with a 5 year old brat, while Conservatives are New York Mothers threating to beat the 5 year old brat.
Neither which i particularly believe work.
Side Note, in proof of the Liberals laugh easier, look at the great stand-up comics, or the nice ones we see on TV. Most Comics tend to lean liberal in their views. You'd be very hard pressed to find a "good" conservative Comic. Also, Liberals are more willing to laugh at themselves. Who doesn't love a good Clinton BJ joke?
Another Side-Note: I also don't by into ADD.
Neither which i particularly believe work.
Side Note, in proof of the Liberals laugh easier, look at the great stand-up comics, or the nice ones we see on TV. Most Comics tend to lean liberal in their views. You'd be very hard pressed to find a "good" conservative Comic. Also, Liberals are more willing to laugh at themselves. Who doesn't love a good Clinton BJ joke?
Another Side-Note: I also don't by into ADD.
Comment by Shane-O on 07/30/2008 13:02:10
Shane-O on 07/30/2008 13:02:10
I was thinking more about your post BobR - you spoke of individuals - Conservatives imposing structure on individuals and Liberals wanting more freedom.
Consider the flip side in the corporate context. To use a broad brush, the reverse seems to be the case: Liberals favor imposing restraints on corporations while Conservatives seem to like more freedom for corporations.
Just a thought...
Consider the flip side in the corporate context. To use a broad brush, the reverse seems to be the case: Liberals favor imposing restraints on corporations while Conservatives seem to like more freedom for corporations.
Just a thought...
Comment by 
BobR on 07/30/2008 13:07:12
BobR on 07/30/2008 13:07:12
thanks for the feedback. I know that generalizations are just that and not everyone fits the bill. I think the charactaristics, though, can be found in some form in most cases. I would consider Al to be more of an old-school conservative, not really a Republican.
As to the ADD - I think in a lot of cases it is borderline autism, but that's just my uninformed opinion (I'm not a doctor, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn!)
As to the ADD - I think in a lot of cases it is borderline autism, but that's just my uninformed opinion (I'm not a doctor, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn!)
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 13:08:56
velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 13:08:56
Off topic completely. I saw" X-Files: I want to Puke Believe" yesterday.
Here is Velveeta's quick review:
Do you like Action/Adventure films? Do you like Romantic comedies? Horror? Thrillers? Well, if you like any of these, then The X-Files is not the film to see! But if you like sitting in the dark, eating stale popcorn, rolling your eyes often and saying "Oh for shit's sake!" then X-Files movie is a winner.
Here is Velveeta's quick review:
Do you like Action/Adventure films? Do you like Romantic comedies? Horror? Thrillers? Well, if you like any of these, then The X-Files is not the film to see! But if you like sitting in the dark, eating stale popcorn, rolling your eyes often and saying "Oh for shit's sake!" then X-Files movie is a winner.
Comment by BobR on 07/30/2008 13:09:33
Your first part dovetails nicely with the authoritarian nature of Republicans I was trying to illustrate. The latter part relates to selfishness -vs- selflessness that I didn't want to get into.
BobR on 07/30/2008 13:09:33
Quote by Shane-O:
I was thinking more about your post BobR - you spoke of individuals - Conservatives imposing structure on individuals and Liberals wanting more freedom.
Consider the flip side in the corporate context. To use a broad brush, the reverse seems to be the case: Liberals favor imposing restraints on corporations while Conservatives seem to like more freedom for corporations.
Just a thought...
Your first part dovetails nicely with the authoritarian nature of Republicans I was trying to illustrate. The latter part relates to selfishness -vs- selflessness that I didn't want to get into.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:10:52
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:10:52
I have squirrels that stand on the top of the back fence and stares at ya when you look out the back patio door
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:11:53
Good thing I put it on my netflix list instead of going to see it in the theatre
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:11:53
Quote by velveeta jones:
Off topic completely. I saw" X-Files: I want toPukeBelieve" yesterday.
Here is Velveeta's quick review:
Do you like Action/Adventure films? Do you like Romantic comedies? Horror? Thrillers? Well, if you like any of these, then The X-Files is not the film to see! But if you like sitting in the dark, eating stale popcorn, rolling your eyes often and saying "Oh for shit's sake!" then X-Files movie is a winner.
Good thing I put it on my netflix list instead of going to see it in the theatre
Comment by Random on 07/30/2008 13:12:47
My beef with ADD is that all of a sudden if a 7 year old can't sit still in a class room he's got ADD.
Random on 07/30/2008 13:12:47
Quote by BobR:
thanks for the feedback. I know that generalizations are just that and not everyone fits the bill. I think the charactaristics, though, can be found in some form in most cases. I would consider Al to be more of an old-school conservative, not really a Republican.
As to the ADD - I think in a lot of cases it is borderline autism, but that's just my uninformed opinion (I'm not a doctor, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn!)
My beef with ADD is that all of a sudden if a 7 year old can't sit still in a class room he's got ADD.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:12:51
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:12:51
ugh
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:13:54
True - morely it's too much sugar or some other reason.
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:13:54
Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:
thanks for the feedback. I know that generalizations are just that and not everyone fits the bill. I think the charactaristics, though, can be found in some form in most cases. I would consider Al to be more of an old-school conservative, not really a Republican.
As to the ADD - I think in a lot of cases it is borderline autism, but that's just my uninformed opinion (I'm not a doctor, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn!)
My beef with ADD is that all of a sudden if a 7 year old can't sit still in a class room he's got ADD.
True - morely it's too much sugar or some other reason.
Comment by Random on 07/30/2008 13:16:32
or...they're 7. You know, a little kid more interested in his little world then the one around him?
Random on 07/30/2008 13:16:32
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:
thanks for the feedback. I know that generalizations are just that and not everyone fits the bill. I think the charactaristics, though, can be found in some form in most cases. I would consider Al to be more of an old-school conservative, not really a Republican.
As to the ADD - I think in a lot of cases it is borderline autism, but that's just my uninformed opinion (I'm not a doctor, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn!)
My beef with ADD is that all of a sudden if a 7 year old can't sit still in a class room he's got ADD.
True - morely it's too much sugar or some other reason.
or...they're 7. You know, a little kid more interested in his little world then the one around him?
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:17:48
TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:17:48
Good morning, comrades!
*snifffffffffffffffffffffff* ah, nothing like a shiny new blog!
*snifffffffffffffffffffffff* ah, nothing like a shiny new blog!
Comment by BobR on 07/30/2008 13:20:14
That still gets back to the contrasting responses. The Republican thinks the proper response is punishnent, and the Democrat thinks the proper response is channeling that energy into creative and learning opportunities.
BobR on 07/30/2008 13:20:14
Quote by Random:
or...they're 7. You know, a little kid more interested in his little world then the one around him?
That still gets back to the contrasting responses. The Republican thinks the proper response is punishnent, and the Democrat thinks the proper response is channeling that energy into creative and learning opportunities.
Comment by TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:21:17
TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:21:17
My take on Republicans?
The one thing that infuriates me is that they are absolutely right about everything. I have yet to meet one that even has the slightest conception that another opinion or point of view exists.
And god forbid that you have *actual* facts that contradicts something they've been told. They're so inflexible that they are completely incapable of conceiving that their information might be incorrect.
I was raised by a college administrator; I learned at an early age to take "facts" with a grain of salt and to always look for confirmation or alternatives...
The one thing that infuriates me is that they are absolutely right about everything. I have yet to meet one that even has the slightest conception that another opinion or point of view exists.
And god forbid that you have *actual* facts that contradicts something they've been told. They're so inflexible that they are completely incapable of conceiving that their information might be incorrect.
I was raised by a college administrator; I learned at an early age to take "facts" with a grain of salt and to always look for confirmation or alternatives...
Comment by Random on 07/30/2008 13:21:46
*shudders* dear lord, makes me glad i'm not a democrat (or republican)
Random on 07/30/2008 13:21:46
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
or...they're 7. You know, a little kid more interested in his little world then the one around him?
That still gets back to the contrasting responses. The Republican thinks the proper response is punishnent, and the Democrat thinks the proper response is channeling that energy into creative and learning opportunities.
*shudders* dear lord, makes me glad i'm not a democrat (or republican)
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 13:22:27
velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 13:22:27
Reposting from the other side:
So TRUE! Now is the time to write write write write! Write to your local right-wing hate speech radio, newspapers and televisions.
We have momentum and the PROOF that this kind of hate, while they are free to speak it, only incites violence! They should not be speaking it on our radio airwaves. Let'em find the same means that other hate groups have.
Quote by AuntAzalea:
Why we need to get rid of hate speech.
So TRUE! Now is the time to write write write write! Write to your local right-wing hate speech radio, newspapers and televisions.
We have momentum and the PROOF that this kind of hate, while they are free to speak it, only incites violence! They should not be speaking it on our radio airwaves. Let'em find the same means that other hate groups have.
Comment by capt on 07/30/2008 13:26:36
capt on 07/30/2008 13:26:36
No time for much but . . .
The connection is unavoidable.
UGH real life!
The believing mind is externally impervious to evidence. The most that can be accomplished with it is to induce it to substitute one delusion for another. It rejects all overt evidence as wicked...
~ H L Mencken
The connection is unavoidable.
UGH real life!
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:29:34
livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:29:34
Good morning everyone. 
Just a little tired this morning. Maybe because my vacation's over and I have to go back to work tonight.
Just a little tired this morning. Maybe because my vacation's over and I have to go back to work tonight.
Comment by BobR on 07/30/2008 13:30:06
That link isn't responding for me...
BobR on 07/30/2008 13:30:06
Quote by velveeta jones:
Reposting from the other side:Quote by AuntAzalea:
Why we need to get rid of hate speech.
So TRUE! Now is the time to write write write write! Write to your local right-wing hate speech radio, newspapers and televisions.
We have momentum and the PROOF that this kind of hate, while they are free to speak it, only incites violence! They should not be speaking it on our radio airwaves. Let'em find the same means that other hate groups have.
That link isn't responding for me...
Comment by TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:32:10
TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:32:10
Seen on the internets:
So, McCain is an unbranded range animal?
Main Entry:
1mav·er·ick Listen to the pronunciation of 1maverick
Pronunciation:
\ˈmav-rik, ˈma-və-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Samuel A. Maverick died 1870 American pioneer who did not brand his calves
Date:
1867
1: an unbranded range animal; especially : a motherless calf
So, McCain is an unbranded range animal?
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 13:33:44
Sorry 'bout that. We had trouble getting on this am. I think it must be overloaded. I'll try reposting later.
But basically, it says that this Atchisson guy who shot up the church, was a frequent listener and letter writer to Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage.
Not that you're shocked, I'm sure.
velveeta jones on 07/30/2008 13:33:44
Quote by BobR:Quote by velveeta jones:
Reposting from the other side:Quote by AuntAzalea:
Why we need to get rid of hate speech.
So TRUE! Now is the time to write write write write! Write to your local right-wing hate speech radio, newspapers and televisions.
We have momentum and the PROOF that this kind of hate, while they are free to speak it, only incites violence! They should not be speaking it on our radio airwaves. Let'em find the same means that other hate groups have.
That link isn't responding for me...
Sorry 'bout that. We had trouble getting on this am. I think it must be overloaded. I'll try reposting later.
But basically, it says that this Atchisson guy who shot up the church, was a frequent listener and letter writer to Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage.
Not that you're shocked, I'm sure.
Comment by TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:36:33
TriSec on 07/30/2008 13:36:33
"foppish" has nothing to do with the inherent gayness of a person.
Indeed, Mr. O'Reilly himself might be a fop.
Main Entry:
fop·pish
Function:
adjective
Date:
1599
1 obsolete : foolish, silly
Indeed, Mr. O'Reilly himself might be a fop.
Main Entry:
fop·pish
Function:
adjective
Date:
1599
1 obsolete : foolish, silly
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/30/2008 13:39:21
starling310 on 07/30/2008 13:39:21
Good morning! Good morning! Oh, I am so glad bloggie is back.
Some Randomâ„¢ thoughts that I wasn't able to share yesterday:
- Can we use our tax dollars to post signs every few yards, on the highway, that read "The Left Lane is for PASSING!!!! If you are not PASSING, move the F* over!"
- Using a re-usable coffee mug gets you strange looks at certain fast food joints.
- I am thinking of getting another tattoo; this time on my wrist.
- I am thinking of quitting smoking.
- What is the point of "Road to the White House" with David Gregory? Really? We need an hour every day for the next 4 months dedicated to the Presidential Race? Are there not other things going on?
You guys are definitely taking the right path, in my opinion. Does ADD exist? Of course it does. Sh*t, I have ADD, practically. The real discussion is about the overmedication of kids. We shouldn't be giving 7 year olds a "crutch." We should be giving them avenues, and creative education tools to harnass that energy and use it effectively. I love Thom Hartmann's 'Hunters and Gatherers' theory.
Some Randomâ„¢ thoughts that I wasn't able to share yesterday:
- Can we use our tax dollars to post signs every few yards, on the highway, that read "The Left Lane is for PASSING!!!! If you are not PASSING, move the F* over!"
- Using a re-usable coffee mug gets you strange looks at certain fast food joints.
- I am thinking of getting another tattoo; this time on my wrist.
- I am thinking of quitting smoking.
- What is the point of "Road to the White House" with David Gregory? Really? We need an hour every day for the next 4 months dedicated to the Presidential Race? Are there not other things going on?
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
or...they're 7. You know, a little kid more interested in his little world then the one around him?
That still gets back to the contrasting responses. The Republican thinks the proper response is punishnent, and the Democrat thinks the proper response is channeling that energy into creative and learning opportunities.
You guys are definitely taking the right path, in my opinion. Does ADD exist? Of course it does. Sh*t, I have ADD, practically. The real discussion is about the overmedication of kids. We shouldn't be giving 7 year olds a "crutch." We should be giving them avenues, and creative education tools to harnass that energy and use it effectively. I love Thom Hartmann's 'Hunters and Gatherers' theory.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:41:06
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:41:06
We do have the cooler celebs (not that it matters)
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 07/30/2008 13:43:28
Grumpymann on 07/30/2008 13:43:28
Great post (as usual) Bob.
I just wonder how you can be so dispassionate about it.
Oh yes hey folks!
I just wonder how you can be so dispassionate about it.
Oh yes hey folks!
Comment by Random on 07/30/2008 13:46:22
....O.O no comment
Random on 07/30/2008 13:46:22
Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
or...they're 7. You know, a little kid more interested in his little world then the one around him?
That still gets back to the contrasting responses. The Republican thinks the proper response is punishnent, and the Democrat thinks the proper response is channeling that energy into creative and learning opportunities.
You guys are definitely taking the right path, in my opinion. Does ADD exist? Of course it does. Sh*t, I have ADD, practically. The real discussion is about the overmedication of kids. We shouldn't be giving 7 year olds a "crutch." We should be giving them avenues, and creative education tools to harnass that energy and use it effectively. I love Thom Hartmann's 'Hunters and Gatherers' theory.
....O.O no comment
Comment by livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:46:28
livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:46:28
Good morning Grump. Long time no see..
I just told mfaye that the blog was back up since she was over on the SMS live blog.
I just told mfaye that the blog was back up since she was over on the SMS live blog.
Comment by Random on 07/30/2008 13:49:03
Random on 07/30/2008 13:49:03
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:49:51
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:49:51
Comment by BobR on 07/30/2008 13:50:05
thanks grump, and glad to see you here. As an fyi, lack of cuss words and ranting does not dispassionate make me.
hmmm... that was a bit "yoda-ish", wasn't it?... :lol:
BobR on 07/30/2008 13:50:05
Quote by Grumpymann:
Great post (as usual) Bob.
I just wonder how you can be so dispassionate about it.
Oh yes hey folks!
thanks grump, and glad to see you here. As an fyi, lack of cuss words and ranting does not dispassionate make me.
hmmm... that was a bit "yoda-ish", wasn't it?... :lol:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:50:41
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 13:50:41
Grump! :hug:
Comment by Scoopster on 07/30/2008 13:50:45
Scoopster on 07/30/2008 13:50:45
Grumpy!!!! 
Comment by starling310 on 07/30/2008 13:51:09
Why, no comment?
Saying 'no comment' is sort of a passive way of saying that you disagree.
Maybe you should say what your comment is, or don't say anything.
Just sayin. . . .
starling310 on 07/30/2008 13:51:09
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or...they're 7. You know, a little kid more interested in his little world then the one around him?
That still gets back to the contrasting responses. The Republican thinks the proper response is punishnent, and the Democrat thinks the proper response is channeling that energy into creative and learning opportunities.
You guys are definitely taking the right path, in my opinion. Does ADD exist? Of course it does. Sh*t, I have ADD, practically. The real discussion is about the overmedication of kids. We shouldn't be giving 7 year olds a "crutch." We should be giving them avenues, and creative education tools to harnass that energy and use it effectively. I love Thom Hartmann's 'Hunters and Gatherers' theory.
....O.O no comment
Why, no comment?
Saying 'no comment' is sort of a passive way of saying that you disagree.
Maybe you should say what your comment is, or don't say anything.
Just sayin. . . .
Comment by starling310 on 07/30/2008 13:52:06
starling310 on 07/30/2008 13:52:06
Heya Grump! Long time, no see! 
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/30/2008 13:53:02
Sorry I just see things differently. "You can't reason with a mad dog only deal with it. And bury it in the end."
But you did justice to the point and didn't seem to offend anyone.
Grumpymann on 07/30/2008 13:53:02
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Great post (as usual) Bob.
I just wonder how you can be so dispassionate about it.
Oh yes hey folks!
thanks grump, and glad to see you here. As an fyi, lack of cuss words and ranting does not dispassionate make me.
hmmm... that was a bit "yoda-ish", wasn't it?... :lol:
Sorry I just see things differently. "You can't reason with a mad dog only deal with it. And bury it in the end."
But you did justice to the point and didn't seem to offend anyone.
Comment by livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:53:06
livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:53:06
Alternet seems to be down this morning. Even the e-mail I get from them seems to have trouble opening.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/30/2008 13:54:31
Grumpymann on 07/30/2008 13:54:31
Scoop, WP, Liv Just wanted to pop in and say hello.
I'm off now.
I'm off now.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/30/2008 13:55:48
Kinda like how Sen. Tom Coburn had nothing to say about Stevens getting indicted?
Man I could just imagine the good doctor mumbling "good riddance" to him after that whole episode with the Bridge to Nowhere.
Scoopster on 07/30/2008 13:55:48
Quote by starling310:
Why, no comment?
Saying 'no comment' is sort of a passive way of saying that you disagree.
Maybe you should say what your comment is, or don't say anything.
Just sayin. . . .
Kinda like how Sen. Tom Coburn had nothing to say about Stevens getting indicted?
Man I could just imagine the good doctor mumbling "good riddance" to him after that whole episode with the Bridge to Nowhere.
Comment by livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:56:11
livingonli on 07/30/2008 13:56:11
Take care then Grump. Don't be a stranger.
Comment by BobR on 07/30/2008 14:08:19
BobR on 07/30/2008 14:08:19
off to the dentist - see y'all later...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 14:08:54
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 14:08:54
Didn't they site the others in contempt too? Didn't nothingness come from it?
Comment by wickedpam on 07/30/2008 14:09:38
wickedpam on 07/30/2008 14:09:38
Were the Jew's enslaved far longer?
Comment by 
m-hadley on 07/30/2008 14:10:22
m-hadley on 07/30/2008 14:10:22
Mornin' Everybody,
I am soooo very glad that you all are back online - I missed my online home
Things look good BobR and Raine - thank you so very much for all you do to make this place possible!
cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
I am soooo very glad that you all are back online - I missed my online home
Things look good BobR and Raine - thank you so very much for all you do to make this place possible!
cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Comment by livingonli on 07/30/2008 14:10:36
livingonli on 07/30/2008 14:10:36
I want to see Karl Rove locked up in the Congressional basement.
Comment by 
Raine on 07/30/2008 14:10:48
Raine on 07/30/2008 14:10:48
Good morning! 
I missed Grump?
I missed Grump?