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Author: TriSec    Date: 08/19/2008 10:26:33

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,980th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4144
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4005
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3683
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3285
Since Election (1/31/05): 2707

Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 574
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 348
Contractor Deaths: 444


We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 546,663,200,000.00


Cutting right to the chase, we'll start this morning in Afghanistan. Once again, another US military installation has come under attack.
KABUL, Afghanistan - Suicide bombers tried unsuccessfully to storm a U.S. military base near Afghanistan-Pakistan border in a daring attack on a major American installation, officials said Tuesday. Six insurgents detonated their vests after being surrounded.

The attack came a day after a suicide bomb outside the same base killed 10 civilians and wounded 13 others. The fighting was still going on early Tuesday, said U.S. coalition spokesman 1st Lt. Nathan Perry. There have been no American deaths, he said.

The militants failed to gain entry to Camp Salerno in Khost city after launching waves of attacks just before midnight on Monday, said Arsallah Jamal, the governor of Khost. The base is just a few miles from Pakistan's border.

Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi, the Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman, said Afghan soldiers, aided by U.S. troops, chased and surrounded a group of insurgents, and that six militants blew themselves up when cornered. Seven other militants died in those explosions and a rolling gun battle, he said.

"(The Afghan National Army) is saying that anytime we get close to them, they detonate themselves," Jamal said.

At least 13 insurgents and two Afghan civilians died in the attack, officials said. Five Afghan soldiers were wounded in the fighting, Azimi said.

Officials also said Tuesday that French soldiers were involved in a large battle 30 miles outside of the capital and that casualties were feared.

Qazi Suliman, the district chief in Surobi, says a patrol of French soldiers came under Taliban attack on Monday, sparking a three-hour gunbattle. Suliman says he has a report that 13 militants were killed.


That's certainly not a good thing; and if you recall from earlier in the summer, we withdrew from another base after a succesful attack by the Taliban.

I don't know about you, but that seems to me like we're losing this one.

Of course the candidates have different opinions. John McCain, for example, thinks Senator Obama tried to legislate failure in Iraq.
ORLANDO, Fla. ¡V John McCain told fellow veterans Monday that Barack Obama tried to legislate failure in Iraq and has refused to admit he erred when opposing the military surge there last year.

Mr. McCain said Mr. Obama placed his political self-interest ahead of his country's. Mr. McCain told a convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars that Mr. Obama's positions have changed as his political ambitions grew.

"A lot of people are still trying to square Sen. Obama's varying positions on the surge in Iraq. First, he opposed the surge and confidently predicted that it would fail. Then he tried to prevent funding for the troops who carried out the surge," Mr. McCain said.

"Not content to merely predict failure in Iraq, my opponent tried to legislate failure."

Mr. Obama has acknowledged the surge reduced violence in Iraq but says it has failed to facilitate a reconciliation among contentious Iraqi factions. He proposes to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq within 16 months; Mr. McCain opposes any timetable for withdrawal.

Iraqi leaders have pressed the U.S. for a timetable for withdrawal.

"It is hard to understand how Sen. McCain can at once proclaim his support for the sovereign government of Iraq, and then stubbornly defy their expressed support for a timeline to remove our combat brigades from their country," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.


There's a mountain of things out there about McCain's stance on Iraq, but here's just two more things to ponder.
The Iraq debate has been reduced to surge rhetoric, which works out great for John McCain. According to a drafted agreement, U.S. troops will leave Iraq in three years. This, combined with less violence there and the increasingly tenuous Afghanistan situation, means the public will begin to forget about Iraq.

---- McCain won't have to dwell on how he voted for a war on false grounds; he can ignore how he supported military action regardless of the lack of weapons of mass destruction.

---- The Iraq occupation will start winding down, but do you trust this man to peacefully resolve conflicts with Iran or other countries? McCain brags about his foreign policy experience, but the choices he's made cast doubt on his ability and judgment.




So, that leaves us as always with the soldiers. I've said it before in this space; the boots on the ground, with a few exceptions, should be beyond reproach in these wars. They've done their job, often thanklessly, and always without complaint. It's up to us to make sure we take care of them when they return.


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 12:13:54
Morning :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 12:30:02
KO Podcast....my first Special Comment!

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 12:52:04
A wee little foily for you this am; not worth a full hat, but just a partially torn sheet of foil...





I see another Gold medal got stolen from another American gymnast again last night. (or 2 nights ago; what time is it in China, anyway?)



In any case, they were talking about the judges and scoring system on NBC last night. No judge from a country with an athlete in the final can be on the floor. So, discuss:



1. The inexperienced judges had no idea what the hell they were doing.

2. Was this a 'defeat by proxy', in that the rest of the countries judging wanted to see the US lose so badly that they subconsciously or not "missed" certain deductions for the Chinese gymnast?

3. What's up with the Chinese gymnast anyway? What is she, 7?

4. I want the old scoring system back; I'll deal with the ocassional "4 from the Russian Judge" in exchange for experience on the floor that knows what the hell they're looking at.





And in an unrelated event, did you see the French gymnast last night on the still rings? He did something called a "victorian". It's simple really, lie down flat on your back, then imagine holding that position while holding onto a set of rings 8 feet off the floor. Just astonishing. But he never had a chance at the medal, for reasons unknown to me.





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 13:04:54
Weather!



Random/Mondo (you're the same now, oh Florida branch of the blog!) Did any of this storm land on Lake Okeechobee? Maybe this will help the drought in Palm Beach County. (you never told us where you come from random....the family TriSec has a compound in Lake Worth.)



Georgia bloggers: Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope this hits you guys too. We're all aware of the water situation in Atlanta...



North Carolina folks: As long as you're not on the outer banks...



And it'll probably dissipate before it gets to anyone on the northern tier...





Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 13:07:36
From DCRTV



Dan Bartlett To CBS - 8/18 - Former counselor to President Bush, Dan Bartlett, has joined CBS News as a political analyst. Bartlett will provide on-air analysis on a variety of political issues, "including at the Democratic and Republican National Conventions and beyond," according to a CBS statement.....





And I thought that MSM is completely liberal

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 13:09:49
: Deadpan Chris : "I don't think that's helpful..."





Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:14:56
:coffee: Good morning!



HOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:25:55
Speaking of the Storm... it is set to hit Ft. Myers Beach... I hope that we HAVE a condo to go to on our honeymoon. :(







Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 13:28:01
I'm sure it'll be fine

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:31:50
Listening to the news, it sounds like Fort Myers is doing ok.







Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:33:30
Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:50:23
AWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I love this lil Girl!!!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:54:03
Uhm.... McCain says he plans to consult John LEWIS??



Evidently it is news to John Lewis too.





But even though McCain has now repeatedly cited Lewis as a role model and potential adviser, McCain has not established a relationship with the Georgia Democrat in the 22 years they have served in Congress together. At the time of McCain's Selma speech, a Lewis associate told my colleague David Corn that McCain has never been close to Lewis. Lewis was not told about McCain's speech in Selma in advance, nor was he invited to attend.



In response to McCain's latest invocation of his name, Rep. Lewis said in a statement requested by Mother Jones, "I cannot stop one human being, even a presidential candidate, from admiring the courage and sacrifice of peaceful protesters on the Edmund Pettus Bridge or making comments about it." But, he added, "Sen. McCain and I are colleagues in the US Congress, not confidantes. He does not consult me. And I do not consult him."




Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 13:57:04
Quote by Raine:

AWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I love this lil Girl!!!




She was a cutie :D



Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:57:45


Who wants to be a millionaire?

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 14:01:37
morning folks... :coffee:

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 14:03:40
Quote by Raine:



Who wants to be a millionaire?


So only 0.1% of Americans are "rich"?



$5M/yr



holy crap - he's an elitist!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:04:06
:( Aww Damn... Pervis Jackson has passed away.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 14:04:27
Gotta run an office errand - back in a few!

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:08:03
Good morning everyone.



Hey, these days I feel like a po' folk thanks to my job situation and the Bush economy.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:08:50
OMG... this caller is just KILLING me. No common sense or critical thinking.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:11:11
*sigh*



No right-to-lifer has ever conclusively answered my question.



I'm glad you believe life begins at conception and abortion is murder. Why should it be the law of the land?





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:11:41
I wake up and this idiot caller is what I have to hear. Can we explain to him how often fertilization doesn't occur or that a fertilized egg can often come out during a woman's period. Another person who needs to stop watching Fox News and try to get more sources.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:13:55
Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:14:38
Every sperm is sacred

Every sperm is great

If a sperm gets wasted

God gets quite irate.


Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 14:18:35
Quote by livingonli:

Every sperm is sacred

Every sperm is great

If a sperm gets wasted

God gets quite irate.




Hm...Than god's pretty mad at random. Dun think Random can ever gain god's favor now.

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:20:14
If men could get pregnant, they would serve beer and pretzels in abortion clinics.



--George Carlin.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:28:30
Say now, Sam Adams has made a Cherry Wheat for a number of years now (re: before it became 'trendy'). It's pretty good stuff...





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:30:10
Considering that I'm sitting at work right now, I'm afraid to type "poodle balling" into Google...





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:34:31
Quote by TriSec:

Considering that I'm sitting at work right now, I'm afraid to type "poodle balling" into Google...





That'll show up on the security board.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:40:10
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Every sperm is sacred

Every sperm is great

If a sperm gets wasted

God gets quite irate.




Hm...Than god's pretty mad at random. Dun think Random can ever gain god's favor now.


:rofl:







Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:41:00
:thud: I had a lot of email to go thru!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:41:49
I loves me some Margaret Chao!

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:42:42
Quote by Raine:

:thud: I had a lot of email to go thru!


I go through that every day. That's why I now have a laptop to take with me on trips.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:47:51
Say Raine, hope you don't mind the aerial stalking this trip....



:peace:





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:52:08
huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.





Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:56:30
Quote by TriSec:

huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.



No one knows when Obama is going to announce... I am waiting for his Text message.



Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:57:08
I don't want my kids listening to your radio program down by the ce-ment pond.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:57:45
Quote by TriSec:

Say Raine, hope you don't mind the aerial stalking this trip....



:peace:



I guess Bobber didn't tell you I WANTED the stalk I was very exited! :D







Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:58:40
Nice... after all teh worrying about the clidren... he calls them a name.

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:59:50
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.



No one knows when Obama is going to announce... I am waiting for his Text message.



Will you share this with us?

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 15:01:43
I feel like I just got hit with a hurricane of salt :wacko:





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 15:02:14
Won't someone please think of the children?

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:04:20
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.



No one knows when Obama is going to announce... I am waiting for his Text message.



Will you share this with us?
No. I am gonna keep it a secret. ME and the millions of others that signed up for the Text Message.



I keed. But I have a feeling the entire country will know collectivly and that is an AWESOME thing.



Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 15:05:14
Ha...Random weird.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 15:12:02
I eagerly await said text message....but I'll tell you that Obama will announce on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday next week.



[TriSec's vacation...we'll be up in the mountains of Cow Hampshire with spotty cell coverage, so I'll miss it.]



Speaking of which, we've chattered a bit in the lair about it, but "Ask A Vet" needs coverage next Tuesday....any takers among those assembled that have the power?



(I'll be around on my other blog days over the next week and a half...)



Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:15:04
VP will be Bill Richardson, Kaine or Biden.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 15:17:24
Richardson for Secretary of State in my world....





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 15:17:52
All hail Random.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:20:21
Quote by TriSec:

I eagerly await said text message....but I'll tell you that Obama will announce on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday next week.



[TriSec's vacation...we'll be up in the mountains of Cow Hampshire with spotty cell coverage, so I'll miss it.]



Speaking of which, we've chattered a bit in the lair about it, but "Ask A Vet" needs coverage next Tuesday....any takers among those assembled that have the power?



(I'll be around on my other blog days over the next week and a half...)

Bob and I will be needing help with the 1, 3, 4, and 5 of September.



Shane-O will be taking one of those days I believe, he is going to get in touch with me... (tri check your mail...;) ) but yes, We are going on our HomeyNoon the week after the family Trisec Vacation.







Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 15:22:28
Quote by Raine:

Bob and I will be needing help with the 1, 3, 4, and 5 of September.



Shane-O will be taking one of those days I believe, he is going to get in touch with me... (tri check your mail...;) ) but yes, We are going on our HomeyNoon the week after the family Trisec Vacation.







Clinster is also taking a day...

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:34:49
Gak! What day is clinster taking?



I will start a blog about this in a little while I think.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 15:34:56
Morning all. : shakes fist towards Seattle : Damn you Neal Stephenson and your intricately plotted, well written, often funny, full of interesting characters, full of interesting idea novels that are hard to put down.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:36:32
I despise John McCain. HE makes my blood pressure go up.



I am ready to redirecting myself to electing Barack Obama in a MUCH larger way.

Comment by m-hadley on 08/19/2008 15:37:48
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Bob and I will be needing help with the 1, 3, 4, and 5 of September.



Shane-O will be taking one of those days I believe, he is going to get in touch with me... (tri check your mail...;) ) but yes, We are going on our HomeyNoon the week after the family Trisec Vacation.







Clinster is also taking a day...




Raine,

I would be glad to take a day or two - please just let me know, and welcome back :D

How's your sister? How was the protest yesterday? I'm glad that you are back :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

:peace:



Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:37:52
IT is amazing to me that troops are able to donate anything. THAT is a testament to how badly our servicemembers want change.

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 15:40:33
Quote by Raine:

Gak! What day is clinster taking?



I will start a blog about this in a little while I think.


The specific day is still up in the air...

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 15:42:27
So, who saw Keith's special comment last night?

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:42:30
:heart: FAYE!!!! OMG.... I felt like I was on tour. a day here, a day there... Seeing so many people I love.



My sister is SO pregnant! My other sister threw a WONDERFUL party/Shower.



We got to the protest a little late, but the protest was good. for the first time I saw McCain supporters. they really creeped me out. all quiet holding ALL mcCain sponsored signs at waist level, a few in suits, not saying ANYTHING (they were silent) and looking a little scared at us counter protesters. I wanted to go up and ask them when the last time was that they had a hug... and then I realized that I didn't want to even try. I spent a week in NY, and realized that these people are really strange.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 15:43:03
OMG! It is breezy here! It must be the far outer band of Fay! I need to rush out and get plywood, toilet paper, shelf stable milk & Dinty Moore stew!

Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 15:43:42
Okay...so i finally did hte requests to the best of my ability. That being said, this is all i could do.





Senate

Kerry vs Beatty

Martin vs Chambliss

Rice vs Inhofe.jpg

Coleman vs Franken.jpg



House Race

Madia vs Paulsen.jpg

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:44:17
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Gak! What day is clinster taking?



I will start a blog about this in a little while I think.


The specific day is still up in the air...


OK, I can work out the details. We have Faye, Clint, Shane....



HOPEFULLY Random.... and anyone else? Anyone want to do Ask a Vet? Tri can give you the format for it. If not, I will do ask a vet.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 15:45:58
"Dinty Moore Beef Stew"







AUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!



: curls up in a ball, has flashbacks to Boy Scouts :



NO! DON'T OPEN THE STEW!!!















Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 15:49:02
Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Gak! What day is clinster taking?



I will start a blog about this in a little while I think.


The specific day is still up in the air...


OK, I can work out the details. We have Faye, Clint, Shane....



HOPEFULLY Random.... and anyone else? Anyone want to do Ask a Vet? Tri can give you the format for it. If not, I will do ask a vet.




Hey...If you want me to, i'd do one, just some advance notice, so i can procrastinate and pull something from my ass hours before hand.



Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 15:50:19
Heh. Maybe I'll call in during vacation and see if I can apply for the "Official Token Left-Leaning Libertarian that's voting for Obama" position....I'll bet that's open.





Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 15:51:41
Quote by TriSec:

"Dinty Moore Beef Stew"













: curls up in a ball, has flashbacks to Boy Scouts :



NO! DON'T OPEN THE STEW!!!

















: Whispers comforting Av-dorkism in poor Tri's ear : Wasp radial! Super Marine! The A-380 is the ugliest thing to lumber into the air. B-26 Avenger! : hands Tri a fainter with a bendy straw helps him to his fainting couch :



Wow what happened with you and the stew?

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 16:02:12
In my early scouting career, Troop 61 had to eventually institute a policy of "no Dinty Moore beef stew" after a time.



I know it's canned, but we still had kids get sick from eating that slop, plus it's nasty (or it was then) full of stringy horse meat and bad potatoes and carrot tops.



It still makes me shudder to think of it.





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 16:04:04
So, Fay is in the middle of Florida between Fort Myers and W. Palm Beach. Fort Myers had 6 1/2 inches of rain.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 16:12:03
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Gak! What day is clinster taking?



I will start a blog about this in a little while I think.


The specific day is still up in the air...


OK, I can work out the details. We have Faye, Clint, Shane....



HOPEFULLY Random.... and anyone else? Anyone want to do Ask a Vet? Tri can give you the format for it. If not, I will do ask a vet.




Hey...If you want me to, i'd do one, just some advance notice, so i can procrastinate and pull something from my ass hours before hand.

You have good stuff in your ass.



And I know from pulling stuff out of asses!



Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 16:12:25
Oh, good. Just re-pointed my radar to Palm Beach....looks like the lake is picking up a good amount of water, and there's a big cell over Moore Haven (western shore) about to go straight across to Port St. Lucie.



We all followed the drought reports from Atlanta with alarm, but South Florida has been in the throes of a drought for about 4 years now....Lake Okeechobee had been about 9 feet below normal, last I heard.





Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 16:16:18
Quote by livingonli:

So, Fay is in the middle of Florida between Fort Myers and W. Palm Beach. Fort Myers had 6 1/2 inches of rain.


I hope the beach is still there when we arrive in a couple weeks...

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 16:17:03
Quote by TriSec:

In my early scouting career, Troop 61 had to eventually institute a policy of "no Dinty Moore beef stew" after a time.



I know it's canned, but we still had kids get sick from eating that slop, plus it's nasty (or it was then) full of stringy horse meat and bad potatoes and carrot tops.



It still makes me shudder to think of it.









Urp! Yes that is why I picked canned stew. It just sounds nasty.

Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 17:04:30
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Gak! What day is clinster taking?



I will start a blog about this in a little while I think.


The specific day is still up in the air...


OK, I can work out the details. We have Faye, Clint, Shane....



HOPEFULLY Random.... and anyone else? Anyone want to do Ask a Vet? Tri can give you the format for it. If not, I will do ask a vet.




Hey...If you want me to, i'd do one, just some advance notice, so i can procrastinate and pull something from my ass hours before hand.

You have good stuff in your ass.



And I know from pulling stuff out of asses!



That kind of talk only makes me love you more Mrs Robin-I mean Rain.





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 17:25:41
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 17:32:47






I got to see Yaz once. It was in his last season, they did a Yaz day at each AL stadium he came out of the visitor's dugout for the tribute tipped his cap and then went back into the dugout. Didn't play in the game against the O's. It was at Memorial Stadium. The O's lost. :shrug:

Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 17:33:59
finally back.





why is it when the bosses what to play jokes on each other I have to go out and find the stuff to make it happen?



Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 17:40:51
Ah, I saw Yaz many times in my youth. (He remains my favorite all-time Red Sock to this day.)



I was not at the famed "last game" in 1983, but I was at Fenway the day they retired his number...I still have my program and a commemorative pennant from that game.





Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 17:41:26
Quote by wickedpam:

finally back.





why is it when the bosses what to play jokes on each other I have to go out and find the stuff to make it happen?







Umm cause you are the can't do anything without you go-to gal for the office???

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 17:44:40
Quote by wickedpam:

finally back.





why is it when the bosses what to play jokes on each other I have to go out and find the stuff to make it happen?



Sounds like they are trying to make you a pawn in their reindeer games.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 17:47:09
:thud: Major computer clean up this afternoon.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 17:49:09
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

finally back.





why is it when the bosses what to play jokes on each other I have to go out and find the stuff to make it happen?







Umm cause you are the can't do anything without you go-to gal for the office???






I like to think so - just call me Friday



Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 17:50:08
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

finally back.





why is it when the bosses what to play jokes on each other I have to go out and find the stuff to make it happen?



Sounds like they are trying to make you a pawn in their reindeer games.






so long as I don't take scrapenal on a hit I'm fine with it. It's just a lot of plotting and running around at the last minute



Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 17:51:09
OK, so I will be figurig out logistics... we have Faye, Clint, Shane and Random for the bloggie posters the days we re not around.



August is always a quiet month...



Who wants Ask A Vet on the 26th? am I REALLY the only one brave enough to take it?

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 17:52:22
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

finally back.





why is it when the bosses what to play jokes on each other I have to go out and find the stuff to make it happen?







Umm cause you are the can't do anything without you go-to gal for the office???






I like to think so - just call me Friday

That's our gal! :hug:



Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 17:54:47
Quote by Raine:

OK, so I will be figurig out logistics... we have Faye, Clint, Shane and Random for the bloggie posters the days we re not around.



August is always a quiet month...



Who wants Ask A Vet on the 26th? am I REALLY the only one brave enough to take it?


You might rabbit, you might.

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 17:58:32
Quote by wickedpam:







I like to think so - just call me Friday



*marks calendar... 'Call Mala on Friday...'*

Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 17:59:08
Quote by Raine:

OK, so I will be figurig out logistics... we have Faye, Clint, Shane and Random for the bloggie posters the days we re not around.



August is always a quiet month...



Who wants Ask A Vet on the 26th? am I REALLY the only one brave enough to take it?


If it twerent for the research...

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 17:59:55
McCain Pick Fred Thompson for VP.



In the most shocking political comeback of this election season, John McCain announced today that octogenarian Fred Thompson will be his vice presidential running mate in the 2008 election.



McCain expressed confidence that Thompson's advanced age and decrepitude would make himself look younger and more vigorous by comparison.



"I can still walk and chew my own food," McCain said. "Fred can't even take a shit unless someone else massages his bowels."



"Fred and I agree on so many issues, it just made sense," McCain said, adding, "We both know our job is taking care of business--and I mean that literally. When someone puts a big chunk of change in your pocket, they expect some service and Fred and I will both deliver. I turned on a dime on that off-shore drilling nonsense once big oil told their people to get out the checkbooks. Fred knows the ropes--hell, he was even a lobbyist for a while, so he wrote the checks."



When asked if he was concerned about the Religious Right's reaction to tapping Thompson, McCain said, "Fred is an actor. If he has to speak in tongues, handle snakes, and roll on the floor to get those toothless hillbillies votes, he'll do it, and they'll believe him. Hell, they believed a silver spoon, spoiled frat boy like Bush was one of their own--they'll believe anything."




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2771783160_d18dfbe3ec_m.jpg




Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 18:00:34
Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:







I like to think so - just call me Friday



*marks calendar... 'Call Mala on Friday...'*












:p

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 18:03:32
:star: Just got to see your fav scene in LA Confidential! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 18:06:13
Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 18:06:33
Quote by Mondobubba:

:star: Just got to see your fav scene in LA Confidential! :rofl:




"That IS Lana Turner."



Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 18:09:33




I have just spent 15 minutes on the phone navigating Medicare Colorado's convoluted IVR system...and I didn't get an answer on my claim query, either.



Yeah, I'd love to see McCain (or any senior, for that matter) try to get through that in one piece....





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 18:13:59
Quote by Raine:

McCain Pick Fred Thompson for VP.



In the most shocking political comeback of this election season, John McCain announced today that octogenarian Fred Thompson will be his vice presidential running mate in the 2008 election.



McCain expressed confidence that Thompson's advanced age and decrepitude would make himself look younger and more vigorous by comparison.



"I can still walk and chew my own food," McCain said. "Fred can't even take a shit unless someone else massages his bowels."



"Fred and I agree on so many issues, it just made sense," McCain said, adding, "We both know our job is taking care of business--and I mean that literally. When someone puts a big chunk of change in your pocket, they expect some service and Fred and I will both deliver. I turned on a dime on that off-shore drilling nonsense once big oil told their people to get out the checkbooks. Fred knows the ropes--hell, he was even a lobbyist for a while, so he wrote the checks."



When asked if he was concerned about the Religious Right's reaction to tapping Thompson, McCain said, "Fred is an actor. If he has to speak in tongues, handle snakes, and roll on the floor to get those toothless hillbillies votes, he'll do it, and they'll believe him. Hell, they believed a silver spoon, spoiled frat boy like Bush was one of their own--they'll believe anything."




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2771783160_d18dfbe3ec_m.jpg




I posted this yesterday but no one seemed to notice.

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 18:29:01
Time to go head off to the salt mine. I have a department meeting to go to.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 18:46:10
Oil Platform: owned by Chevron



Lobbyist: owned by Chevron



Visit by a presidential candidate? Priceless!





Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 18:50:46
BMX sport or not sport? More importantly, Olympic sport or not? Discuss.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 19:04:15
Quote by Mondobubba:

BMX sport or not sport? More importantly, Olympic sport or not? Discuss.






If snowboarding's a sport I would think BMX racing is. I mean it's bike riding in tough terrain



Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 19:07:15
If trampoline, rhythmic gymnastics, and synchronized swimming and diving can be in the Olympics...



Why not Aerobatics? Everybody's heard of Patty Wagstaff and Mike Goulian, right?



A sport or discipline is included in the Olympic program if the IOC determines that it is widely practiced around the world, that is, the number of countries that compete in a given sport is the indicator of the sport's prevalence. The IOC's requirements reflect participation in the Olympic Games as well — more stringent toward men (as they are represented in higher numbers) and Summer sports (as more nations compete in the Summer Olympics). Sports may not depend primarily on mechanical propulsion, though there were power-boating events in the early days of the Olympics.




From Le Wiki...



Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 19:11:49
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BMX sport or not sport? More importantly, Olympic sport or not? Discuss.






If snowboarding's a sport I would think BMX racing is. I mean it's bike riding in tough terrain



A sport is anything that if you fuck up, you can be seriously injured, or die.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 19:19:23
There's a lot of sports that seem to exist only to be contested at the Olympics...





When was the last time anyone was luging? Or had to vault over a crossbar 16 feet above the ground? Or needed to toss a bowling ball 90 feet?



And in case you didn't notice, this is baseball's last year as an olympic sport...surely that is widely practiced in many countries?





Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 19:20:23
Quote by Random:



A sport is anything that if you fuck up, you can be seriously injured, or die.


Like badminton?

Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 19:21:41
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:



A sport is anything that if you fuck up, you can be seriously injured, or die.


Like badminton?


As Random defines it, no. Unless of course you've got a killer swing and can burrow that...whatever that is, into an eye.



Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 19:24:15
Quote by TriSec:

There's a lot of sports that seem to exist only to be contested at the Olympics...





When was the last time anyone was luging? Or had to vault over a crossbar 16 feet above the ground? Or needed to toss a bowling ball 90 feet?



And in case you didn't notice, this is baseball's last year as an olympic sport...surely that is widely practiced in many countries?





They're getting rid of baseball?? That must be a slam at the U.S.



I remember going to the bronze medal baseball game for the 1996 Olympics here in Atlanta. It was fun.



Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 19:29:06
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:



A sport is anything that if you fuck up, you can be seriously injured, or die.


Like badminton?






You can put an eye out

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 19:37:41
Quote by Random:



As Random defines it, no. Unless of course you've got a killer swing and can burrow that...whatever that is, into an eye.



Reminds me of a Monty Python sketch...





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 19:48:39
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/939/75009120.JPG




It's called a "shuttlecock"





: serves up big meatball over the plate :





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 20:27:41
Graphs for Mondo!



and other cat owners...



Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 20:50:27
fSN continues to hit programming lows. Now, we have on Extreme Paintball.



I'm still waiting for the watching paint dry show.

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 21:00:52
The Extreme Paintball Tournament is coming out of Jacksonville.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 21:30:00
Quote by TriSec:

If trampoline, rhythmic gymnastics, and synchronized swimming and diving can be in the Olympics...



Why not Aerobatics? Everybody's heard of Patty Wagstaff and Mike Goulian, right?



A sport or discipline is included in the Olympic program if the IOC determines that it is widely practiced around the world, that is, the number of countries that compete in a given sport is the indicator of the sport's prevalence. The IOC's requirements reflect participation in the Olympic Games as well — more stringent toward men (as they are represented in higher numbers) and Summer sports (as more nations compete in the Summer Olympics). Sports may not depend primarily on mechanical propulsion, though there were power-boating events in the early days of the Olympics.




From Le Wiki...







Here is one that has been petitioning the IOC for years: Ballroom Dancing AKA "Sport Dance." Yeah that is what the Olympics need yet another sport where the female contestants wear insane amounts of makeup and outlandish costumes. You don't see enough of that at sporting events! :sarcasm:

Comment by clintster on 08/19/2008 21:40:29
Hello, everybody! Just popping in between teaching and rehearsing. I'll be posting info on the show in the forum in the next day or so.



I was just checking out Facecrack, and had an interesting request. Mrs. C. recently signed up and I had a request to confirm that we were in a relationship. "For just the last seven years", I muttered as I went through the Facebook rigmarole. A few seconds later, I got a message saying "Clintster is now married to Mrs. Clintster". And to think I could have saved time, energy, a blood test, and the bureaucracy of a little county in North Carolina.





Comment by clintster on 08/19/2008 21:45:32
Forgive me for using your trumpets, Random, but I think this calls for great fanfare:







Dr. (just not that kind of Dr.) Rachel Maddow to get her own MSNBC show!





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 21:54:32
Quote by clintster:

Forgive me for using your trumpets, Random, but I think this calls for great fanfare:







Dr. (just not that kind of Dr.) Rachel Maddow to get her own MSNBC show!





Woot! About freaking time.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/19/2008 22:02:21
Quote by clintster:

Forgive me for using your trumpets, Random, but I think this calls for great fanfare:







Dr. (just not that kind of Dr.) Rachel Maddow to get her own MSNBC show!









Woohoo! Now that will make Bill O'Reilly's head esplode!

Comment by leorising on 08/19/2008 22:16:09
Hi guys, just heard Rachel's good news and had to pop in to celebrate!



*dances, throws confetti*



^_^



Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 22:26:28
Quote by leorising:

Hi guys, just heard Rachel's good news and had to pop in to celebrate!



*dances, throws confetti*



^_^





Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 22:38:06
Hope you guys are ready for this...





***** NOT SATIRE *****





Toby Kieth Endorsed Barack Obama.

Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 22:42:35
Quote by clintster:

Forgive me for using your trumpets, Random, but I think this calls for great fanfare:







Dr. (just not that kind of Dr.) Rachel Maddow to get her own MSNBC show!







I shall stay my smote button...for now.



Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 22:46:08
Quote by leorising:

Hi guys, just heard Rachel's good news and had to pop in to celebrate!



*dances, throws confetti*



^_^

Hola Leo! isn't this just some of the best news we have had in a while?



:::: still doing a happy dance ::::



Comment by leorising on 08/19/2008 22:49:10
Quote by Raine:

Hope you guys are ready for this...





***** NOT SATIRE *****





Toby Kieth Endorsed Barack Obama.




Forgive me, but...







*doesn't know Toby Keith but is still dancing*

Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 22:51:30
Quote by leorising:

Quote by Raine:

Hope you guys are ready for this...





***** NOT SATIRE *****





Toby Kieth Endorsed Barack Obama.




Forgive me, but...







*doesn't know Toby Keith but is still dancing*




Think biggest country western star.



Comment by leorising on 08/19/2008 22:59:23
Quote by Random:

Quote by leorising:

Quote by Raine:

Hope you guys are ready for this...





***** NOT SATIRE *****









Forgive me, but...







*doesn't know Toby Keith but is still dancing*




Think biggest country western star.





Oooooooh...So, for us, it would be like an endorsement from Rachel Maddow?



BTW, the comments over at Keith Olbermann's diary (Daily Kos) are pretty much a long, sometimes animated, fanletter to Dr. Maddow. See it here.



*still dancin'*

Comment by IzzyBitz on 08/19/2008 23:04:56
Whoo hoo! Rachel with her own show on the TeeVee Machine.



:dance2:



This news calls for a dancing vagina! That sorry little penis just won't do.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 08/19/2008 23:15:27
Quote by leorising:

BTW, the comments over at Keith Olbermann's diary (Daily Kos) are pretty much a long, sometimes animated, fanletter to Dr. Maddow. See it here.




No pie?! Oh, fine. I'm goin' home.





Comment by velveeta jones on 08/19/2008 23:21:53
Velveeta checking in from the sick bed *cough*



Aunt Azalea just woke me to give me the great news!!!



RACHAEL!!!





Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 23:25:26
Quote by leorising:

Quote by Random:

Quote by leorising:

Quote by Raine:

Hope you guys are ready for this...





***** NOT SATIRE *****









Forgive me, but...







*doesn't know Toby Keith but is still dancing*




Think biggest country western star.





Oooooooh...So, for us, it would be like an endorsement from Rachel Maddow?



BTW, the comments over at Keith Olbermann's diary (Daily Kos) are pretty much a long, sometimes animated, fanletter to Dr. Maddow. See it here.



*still dancin'*


I was thinking of it like if Reagan rose from the dead and endorsed Obama.



Comment by leorising on 08/19/2008 23:28:37
LOL, Random!

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 23:28:40
VICTORY ROLL FOR RACHEL!!!!!








Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 23:32:25
Quote by leorising:

LOL, Random!


I was going to say Bush, but thought better of it.

Comment by leorising on 08/19/2008 23:38:28
BTW, hi Raine!

:birthday:

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/19/2008 23:45:23
Well, I'll see your barrel roll with bikes: ALL CELEBRATING RACHAEL!!!





Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:06:25
Not to throw a wet blanket on the Rachel announcement, but I for one can't wait for the hysterical right wing response. I mean she is going to spend an hour five nights a week promoting the gay agenda! How can you get news from one of the gays? It is going to be a hoot!

Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 00:10:24
Heya Velveeta... Sorry to read that you are in a sick bed... Passes a bowl of warm chicken soup.



Still dancing!!!



and yes, the Reich wing is going to have a brain vessel pop. I mean seriously... back to back ... KO and RM???





Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:18:48
Quote by Raine:

Heya Velveeta... Sorry to read that you are in a sick bed... Passes a bowl of warm chicken soup.



Still dancing!!!



and yes, the Reich wing is going to have a brain vessel pop. I mean seriously... back to back ... KO and RM???







Two hours of newsy goodness!



Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 00:20:52
It looks like my weeknight prime-time viewing will be set when I have a night off between Keith, Rachel, and then an hour break until The Daily Show and Colbert Report.

Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 00:24:54
Time for dinner! (Fried Flounder anyone?)







Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:26:53
Quote by Raine:

Time for dinner! (Fried Flounder anyone?)











Mmmmm fishy goodness!

Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 00:29:03
MSG Plus just ran that spot for the Liberian 9-11 coin. Anyone not familiar with it see Tri's Saturday blog.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:31:57
If Amway is so big and they make so many products, how come I don't know anybody who has any of them?

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 00:34:45
Hey ya'll, please digg this Story: Fellow POW: Why I won't vote for McCain.



AMAZING!

Comment by Scoopster on 08/20/2008 00:42:19
:O :O :O :O



Rachel got her own show!

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 00:44:08
EEEEEE!!! A naming contest!!!







Wouldn't it be SUPER COOL for one of us to win the naming of Rachels new show??



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:44:12
Best Damn News Show?



Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 00:44:57
The lesbian goddess hour?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:45:07
Rachel just came up with it: Wide World of Stuff. It sings!

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 00:45:32
Maddow's Meadow?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:46:20
Quote by velveeta jones:

The lesbian goddess hour?




Sounds good.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:47:20
She can get Chuck D for her band leader! And and Lizz Winstead to warm up the studio!

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 00:47:33
Oh, how about: "Stupid people need not bother to watch, news hour" ?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 00:48:39
Seems like we are the only ones with the name ideas, VJ. The rest of the blog, slackers!

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 00:48:48
Quote by Scoopster:



:O :O :O :O

Rachel got her own show!




Dude, that's soooo 2 hours ago. :rolleyes:



:lol:



Comment by Scoopster on 08/20/2008 00:52:35
LOL @ KO schooling rappers who call for the snuffing of the Bill-O!

Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 00:56:47
Rachel's hour of Real News.

Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 00:57:02
Quote by Mondobubba:

Not to throw a wet blanket on the Rachel announcement, but I for one can't wait for the hysterical right wing response. I mean she is going to spend an hour five nights a week promoting the gay agenda! How can you get news from one of the gays? It is going to be a hoot!


*laughs* I can't wait for white right wing world.

Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 01:03:33
I'm at work. It's hard for me to chime in from here.

Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 01:03:45
:pray:



Dear Lord, I know we don't talk as often as we should. Please forgive me. I promise to do better.............. especially if you tell McCain to pick Old Indie Joe as his VP pick.



Amen.

Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 01:09:08
Quote by velveeta jones:

Velveeta checking in from the sick bed *cough*



Aunt Azalea just woke me to give me the great news!!!



RACHAEL!!!





oh no!... what's the problem now?

Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 01:14:24
Quote by velveeta jones:

EEEEEE!!! A naming contest!!!







Wouldn't it be SUPER COOL for one of us to win the naming of Rachels new show??



There's a naming contest?.... for real?... or just for here?....





hmmm.....



Reality Bites with Rachel Maddow?



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 01:19:48
Quote by Scoopster:

:O :O :O :O



Rachel got her own show!




Scoop you've been asleep or playing games online haven't you?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 01:20:45
Rachel Rips the Right a New One Nightly?

Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 01:44:05
Quote by Mondobubba:

Rachel Rips the Right a New One Nightly?


Rachel's righteous reality ripping the Right a really raw rectum :rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 02:16:23
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Rachel Rips the Right a New One Nightly?


Rachel's righteous reality ripping the Right a really raw rectum :rofl:






You slay yourself sometimes, don't you Bobber?

Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 02:19:15
"IQ News with Rachel Maddow"



"Rachel's News Crack"



"Dr. Maddow Here and Now"



Or, we could let sloganizer do it:



«Oh my goddess, it's a Rachel.»



«Rachelrific.» [The Rachelrific News Hour]



«Rachel, the smart choice.»



«Dr. Maddow, the real thing.»



«You don't want Dr. Maddow as your enemy!»



«The ideal Dr. Maddow.»



«Rachel Maddow never lies.»



«Truly Rachel Maddow.»





Good night, folks!



Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 02:40:13
Rachel Maddow, the only anchor with an air wing!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 02:45:53
Rachel Maddow, watch or be bombed.

Comment by clintster on 08/20/2008 02:51:29
Quote by Mondobubba:

Rachel Maddow, watch or be bombed.




Whaddaya mean OR??!?!?





Comment by clintster on 08/20/2008 03:22:35
Incredibly sad news tonight:



DMB saxophonist dies in accident.

Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 03:47:38
Quote by clintster:

Incredibly sad news tonight:



DMB saxophonist dies in accident.


oh that sucks... :(

Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 04:28:07
I think that people are playing games, now.



But in case it is her... you can say Raine found this info! I DO NOT think at this point it will be Sebelius, I am starting to feel that it will be Biden... Still surprised it will b 2 sitting senators. that is VERY historic. And DELAWARE DEMS??? You BETTER put a new Dem in office!!!



HOWEVER there is a part of me that thinks Obama could very well throw a total curveball. this one could come out of right field. I feel very excited about his vp choice. Does anyone know where Bill Richardson is? I do not think he is out of the game. I feel like I am waiting for a are NFL trick play.



That said, I should go to sleep... I have been so very tired.

Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 04:32:02
Quote by TriSec:

"IQ News with Rachel Maddow"



"Rachel's News Crack"



"Dr. Maddow Here and Now"



Or, we could let sloganizer do it:



«Oh my goddess, it's a Rachel.»



«Rachelrific.» [The Rachelrific News Hour]



«Rachel, the smart choice.»



«Dr. Maddow, the real thing.»



«You don't want Dr. Maddow as your enemy!»



«The ideal Dr. Maddow.»



«Rachel Maddow never lies.»



«Truly Rachel Maddow.»





Good night, folks!





Maddow, Unfiltered

(except for NBC and the FCC... )



I would love Unfiltered news or SOMETHING like that!!!



I feel a poll coming.



How about House Call, with Dr. Maddow.?



Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 05:50:10
It sounds like a good poll idea to me. :)

Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 06:58:44
Late night music video theater time;