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Author: TriSec    Date: 08/19/2008 10:26:33

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,980th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4144
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4005
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3683
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3285
Since Election (1/31/05): 2707

Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 574
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 348
Contractor Deaths: 444


We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 546,663,200,000.00


Cutting right to the chase, we'll start this morning in Afghanistan. Once again, another US military installation has come under attack.
KABUL, Afghanistan - Suicide bombers tried unsuccessfully to storm a U.S. military base near Afghanistan-Pakistan border in a daring attack on a major American installation, officials said Tuesday. Six insurgents detonated their vests after being surrounded.

The attack came a day after a suicide bomb outside the same base killed 10 civilians and wounded 13 others. The fighting was still going on early Tuesday, said U.S. coalition spokesman 1st Lt. Nathan Perry. There have been no American deaths, he said.

The militants failed to gain entry to Camp Salerno in Khost city after launching waves of attacks just before midnight on Monday, said Arsallah Jamal, the governor of Khost. The base is just a few miles from Pakistan's border.

Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi, the Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman, said Afghan soldiers, aided by U.S. troops, chased and surrounded a group of insurgents, and that six militants blew themselves up when cornered. Seven other militants died in those explosions and a rolling gun battle, he said.

"(The Afghan National Army) is saying that anytime we get close to them, they detonate themselves," Jamal said.

At least 13 insurgents and two Afghan civilians died in the attack, officials said. Five Afghan soldiers were wounded in the fighting, Azimi said.

Officials also said Tuesday that French soldiers were involved in a large battle 30 miles outside of the capital and that casualties were feared.

Qazi Suliman, the district chief in Surobi, says a patrol of French soldiers came under Taliban attack on Monday, sparking a three-hour gunbattle. Suliman says he has a report that 13 militants were killed.


That's certainly not a good thing; and if you recall from earlier in the summer, we withdrew from another base after a succesful attack by the Taliban.

I don't know about you, but that seems to me like we're losing this one.

Of course the candidates have different opinions. John McCain, for example, thinks Senator Obama tried to legislate failure in Iraq.
ORLANDO, Fla. ¡V John McCain told fellow veterans Monday that Barack Obama tried to legislate failure in Iraq and has refused to admit he erred when opposing the military surge there last year.

Mr. McCain said Mr. Obama placed his political self-interest ahead of his country's. Mr. McCain told a convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars that Mr. Obama's positions have changed as his political ambitions grew.

"A lot of people are still trying to square Sen. Obama's varying positions on the surge in Iraq. First, he opposed the surge and confidently predicted that it would fail. Then he tried to prevent funding for the troops who carried out the surge," Mr. McCain said.

"Not content to merely predict failure in Iraq, my opponent tried to legislate failure."

Mr. Obama has acknowledged the surge reduced violence in Iraq but says it has failed to facilitate a reconciliation among contentious Iraqi factions. He proposes to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq within 16 months; Mr. McCain opposes any timetable for withdrawal.

Iraqi leaders have pressed the U.S. for a timetable for withdrawal.

"It is hard to understand how Sen. McCain can at once proclaim his support for the sovereign government of Iraq, and then stubbornly defy their expressed support for a timeline to remove our combat brigades from their country," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.


There's a mountain of things out there about McCain's stance on Iraq, but here's just two more things to ponder.
The Iraq debate has been reduced to surge rhetoric, which works out great for John McCain. According to a drafted agreement, U.S. troops will leave Iraq in three years. This, combined with less violence there and the increasingly tenuous Afghanistan situation, means the public will begin to forget about Iraq.

---- McCain won't have to dwell on how he voted for a war on false grounds; he can ignore how he supported military action regardless of the lack of weapons of mass destruction.

---- The Iraq occupation will start winding down, but do you trust this man to peacefully resolve conflicts with Iran or other countries? McCain brags about his foreign policy experience, but the choices he's made cast doubt on his ability and judgment.




So, that leaves us as always with the soldiers. I've said it before in this space; the boots on the ground, with a few exceptions, should be beyond reproach in these wars. They've done their job, often thanklessly, and always without complaint. It's up to us to make sure we take care of them when they return.


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 12:13:54
Morning :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 12:30:02
KO Podcast....my first Special Comment!

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 12:52:04
A wee little foily for you this am; not worth a full hat, but just a partially torn sheet of foil...





I see another Gold medal got stolen from another American gymnast again last night. (or 2 nights ago; what time is it in China, anyway?)



In any case, they were talking about the judges and scoring system on NBC last night. No judge from a country with an athlete in the final can be on the floor. So, discuss:



1. The inexperienced judges had no idea what the hell they were doing.

2. Was this a 'defeat by proxy', in that the rest of the countries judging wanted to see the US lose so badly that they subconsciously or not "missed" certain deductions for the Chinese gymnast?

3. What's up with the Chinese gymnast anyway? What is she, 7?

4. I want the old scoring system back; I'll deal with the ocassional "4 from the Russian Judge" in exchange for experience on the floor that knows what the hell they're looking at.





And in an unrelated event, did you see the French gymnast last night on the still rings? He did something called a "victorian". It's simple really, lie down flat on your back, then imagine holding that position while holding onto a set of rings 8 feet off the floor. Just astonishing. But he never had a chance at the medal, for reasons unknown to me.





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 13:04:54
Weather!



Random/Mondo (you're the same now, oh Florida branch of the blog!) Did any of this storm land on Lake Okeechobee? Maybe this will help the drought in Palm Beach County. (you never told us where you come from random....the family TriSec has a compound in Lake Worth.)



Georgia bloggers: Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope this hits you guys too. We're all aware of the water situation in Atlanta...



North Carolina folks: As long as you're not on the outer banks...



And it'll probably dissipate before it gets to anyone on the northern tier...





Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 13:07:36
From DCRTV



Dan Bartlett To CBS - 8/18 - Former counselor to President Bush, Dan Bartlett, has joined CBS News as a political analyst. Bartlett will provide on-air analysis on a variety of political issues, "including at the Democratic and Republican National Conventions and beyond," according to a CBS statement.....





And I thought that MSM is completely liberal

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 13:09:49
: Deadpan Chris : "I don't think that's helpful..."





Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:14:56
:coffee: Good morning!



HOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:25:55
Speaking of the Storm... it is set to hit Ft. Myers Beach... I hope that we HAVE a condo to go to on our honeymoon. :(







Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 13:28:01
I'm sure it'll be fine

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:31:50
Listening to the news, it sounds like Fort Myers is doing ok.







Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:33:30
Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:50:23
AWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I love this lil Girl!!!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:54:03
Uhm.... McCain says he plans to consult John LEWIS??



Evidently it is news to John Lewis too.





But even though McCain has now repeatedly cited Lewis as a role model and potential adviser, McCain has not established a relationship with the Georgia Democrat in the 22 years they have served in Congress together. At the time of McCain's Selma speech, a Lewis associate told my colleague David Corn that McCain has never been close to Lewis. Lewis was not told about McCain's speech in Selma in advance, nor was he invited to attend.



In response to McCain's latest invocation of his name, Rep. Lewis said in a statement requested by Mother Jones, "I cannot stop one human being, even a presidential candidate, from admiring the courage and sacrifice of peaceful protesters on the Edmund Pettus Bridge or making comments about it." But, he added, "Sen. McCain and I are colleagues in the US Congress, not confidantes. He does not consult me. And I do not consult him."




Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 13:57:04
Quote by Raine:

AWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I love this lil Girl!!!




She was a cutie :D



Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 13:57:45


Who wants to be a millionaire?

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 14:01:37
morning folks... :coffee:

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 14:03:40
Quote by Raine:



Who wants to be a millionaire?


So only 0.1% of Americans are "rich"?



$5M/yr



holy crap - he's an elitist!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:04:06
:( Aww Damn... Pervis Jackson has passed away.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/19/2008 14:04:27
Gotta run an office errand - back in a few!

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:08:03
Good morning everyone.



Hey, these days I feel like a po' folk thanks to my job situation and the Bush economy.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:08:50
OMG... this caller is just KILLING me. No common sense or critical thinking.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:11:11
*sigh*



No right-to-lifer has ever conclusively answered my question.



I'm glad you believe life begins at conception and abortion is murder. Why should it be the law of the land?





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:11:41
I wake up and this idiot caller is what I have to hear. Can we explain to him how often fertilization doesn't occur or that a fertilized egg can often come out during a woman's period. Another person who needs to stop watching Fox News and try to get more sources.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:13:55
Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:14:38
Every sperm is sacred

Every sperm is great

If a sperm gets wasted

God gets quite irate.


Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 14:18:35
Quote by livingonli:

Every sperm is sacred

Every sperm is great

If a sperm gets wasted

God gets quite irate.




Hm...Than god's pretty mad at random. Dun think Random can ever gain god's favor now.

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:20:14
If men could get pregnant, they would serve beer and pretzels in abortion clinics.



--George Carlin.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:28:30
Say now, Sam Adams has made a Cherry Wheat for a number of years now (re: before it became 'trendy'). It's pretty good stuff...





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:30:10
Considering that I'm sitting at work right now, I'm afraid to type "poodle balling" into Google...





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:34:31
Quote by TriSec:

Considering that I'm sitting at work right now, I'm afraid to type "poodle balling" into Google...





That'll show up on the security board.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:40:10
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Every sperm is sacred

Every sperm is great

If a sperm gets wasted

God gets quite irate.




Hm...Than god's pretty mad at random. Dun think Random can ever gain god's favor now.


:rofl:







Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:41:00
:thud: I had a lot of email to go thru!

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:41:49
I loves me some Margaret Chao!

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:42:42
Quote by Raine:

:thud: I had a lot of email to go thru!


I go through that every day. That's why I now have a laptop to take with me on trips.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:47:51
Say Raine, hope you don't mind the aerial stalking this trip....



:peace:





Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 14:52:08
huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.





Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:56:30
Quote by TriSec:

huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.



No one knows when Obama is going to announce... I am waiting for his Text message.



Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:57:08
I don't want my kids listening to your radio program down by the ce-ment pond.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:57:45
Quote by TriSec:

Say Raine, hope you don't mind the aerial stalking this trip....



:peace:



I guess Bobber didn't tell you I WANTED the stalk I was very exited! :D







Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 14:58:40
Nice... after all teh worrying about the clidren... he calls them a name.

Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 14:59:50
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.



No one knows when Obama is going to announce... I am waiting for his Text message.



Will you share this with us?

Comment by BobR on 08/19/2008 15:01:43
I feel like I just got hit with a hurricane of salt :wacko:





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 15:02:14
Won't someone please think of the children?

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:04:20
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

huh?



Why announce *when* you're announcing your VP pick?



Obama should announce his an hour before or an hour after, then.



No one knows when Obama is going to announce... I am waiting for his Text message.



Will you share this with us?
No. I am gonna keep it a secret. ME and the millions of others that signed up for the Text Message.



I keed. But I have a feeling the entire country will know collectivly and that is an AWESOME thing.



Comment by Random on 08/19/2008 15:05:14
Ha...Random weird.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 15:12:02
I eagerly await said text message....but I'll tell you that Obama will announce on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday next week.



[TriSec's vacation...we'll be up in the mountains of Cow Hampshire with spotty cell coverage, so I'll miss it.]



Speaking of which, we've chattered a bit in the lair about it, but "Ask A Vet" needs coverage next Tuesday....any takers among those assembled that have the power?



(I'll be around on my other blog days over the next week and a half...)



Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:15:04
VP will be Bill Richardson, Kaine or Biden.

Comment by TriSec on 08/19/2008 15:17:24
Richardson for Secretary of State in my world....





Comment by livingonli on 08/19/2008 15:17:52
All hail Random.

Comment by Raine on 08/19/2008 15:20:21
Quote by TriSec:

I eagerly await said text message....but I'll tell you that Obama will announce on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday next week.



[TriSec's vacation...we'll be up in the mountains of Cow Hampshire with spotty cell coverage, so I'll miss it.]



Speaking of which, we've chattered a bit in the lair about it, but "Ask A Vet" needs coverage next Tuesday....any takers among those assembled that have the power?



(I'll be around on my other blog days over the next week and a half...)

Bob and I will be needing help with the 1, 3, 4, and 5 of September.



Shane-O will be taking one of those days I believe, he is going to get in touch with me... (tri check your mail...;) ) but yes, We are going on our HomeyNoon the week after the family Trisec Vacation.