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Country First? Why is that familiar?
Author: TriSec    Date: 09/04/2008 10:45:16

Good Morning!

Have you been keeping up with our friends in Minneapolis? There's been a lot of interesting things happening up there in the Twin Cities.

I believe I have seen a whopping two persons of color on the convention floor....Mondo has observed the automated nature of the applause from the delegates, but "their eyes are empty" as if responding by rote, without any passion or conviction.

I'm impressed by the number of hand-painted signs; I don't know if this is the norm for the convention, but I don't recall seeing that at the DNC in Denver...it really makes this convention look like a bunch of low-budget amateurs.

And nevermind that "deer in the headlights" speech from Governor Palin last night....I don't recall ever hearing such a disjointed and unprofessional speech from a major candidate. And they speak of Obama's lack of experience...


But the thing that I have noticed the most is all of those "Country First" signs. I'm finding it vaguely unsettling. Much has been made about Obama giving a speech in a stadium to cap the convention, and of course comparisons were made to certain rallies that took place in Europe in the 1930s. But isn't sacrificing everything on the altar of the state one of the hallmarks of fascism? I know we're all familiar with it, but a brief review of the 14 characteristics of Fascism is in order. How much of this have we seen so far this week?




-Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

-Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

-Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

-Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

-Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

-Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


But that's not what motivated me to check the history books. Sometimes being a WWII geek has it's uses; today is one of those times. After Germany invaded Poland, and the major powers declared war, the United States chose to sit on the sidelines. During 1940 and most of 1941, the so-called "Great Debate" took place over whether or not the US should become involved. Complicating matters was FDR's campaign for the presidency, which was for an unprecedented 3rd term. Many saw him as a warmonger desperate to drive the US to war; others were looking for the slightest excuse to get the US involved.

It's not like there wasn't opportunity; after the Atlantic Charter in 1941, US Destroyers began escorting ships bound for England, and U-Boats began hunting them. Of course we all know Pearl Harbor ended the debate once and for all.

But at last that brings me to the history I was searching for....for there was an antiwar group called the America First Committee. They too thought the United States should come first, but for different reasons. Their charter was remarkably brief, to whit:


-The United States must build an impregnable defense for America.
-No foreign power, nor group of powers, can successfully attack a prepared America.
-American democracy can be preserved only by keeping out of the European war.
-"Aid short of war" weakens national defense at home and threatens to involve America in war abroad.


Alas....the group turned out to be anti-semitic, but that's a blog entry for another day.

The funny thing is, the America First Committe lives on today. The name was resurrected in 2002 as an isolationist third party. They're tiny; balloting in only two states (MA and FL), but they do have an interesting platform.


Smaller federal government

The party seeks to eliminate several Cabinet departments within the Executive branch of the U.S. federal government, such as the departments of Housing and Urban Development and Education. The party also seeks to eliminate all federal funding for schools, believing that federal government money has led to more federal control over schools -- control, the party believes, that should rest in the hands of local governments.

Church/State issues

The party opposes the idea that the Constitution bars expressions of religious faith in the public square. It seeks to overturn all bans on organized prayer in public places, especially in public schools, as well as bans on displays of religious icons (such as tablets of the Ten Commandments)


I've got to hand it to the GOP leadership, as once again they've taken a theme or an idea that they like the sound of, without checking to see if somebody else might be using the name, or if it has any historical implications.


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 12:11:47
morning :hug:

Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 12:24:19
Morning Tri, Mala :coffee:

Comment by m-hadley on 09/04/2008 12:43:47
Mornin' Mala , Tri and Scoop,

Frustration Nation over at the Live blog - I keep getting bounced out before I can even post, or I get some strange message like "you are posting too quickly, slow down."

It may take me awhile to recover after last night's litany of lies. Who knew that Sarah Palin was such a beee-och?

Cheers,

mfaye

:peace: & :hug:

Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 12:51:44
Now Playing: MGMT / Electric Feel



Get up and dance!! OOOH GIRL, SHOCK ME LIKE ELECTRIC EEL!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:07:37
Good morning everyone.



Took me this long to figure out who Mala was. Hi there! You will note on many things I am extremely slow on the take.

Hi TriSec, mfaye & scoop.



Yeah, the liveblog is major frelled up today. It's like they have to think of new types of errors - quasi-logged in - posting too fast - changing the order of posts.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:09:14
Hey Scoop, Faye and TJ!

Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 13:13:23
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:17:30
That's okay TJ - took me a while to figure out your real name was Paul :D

Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:18:06
So if the only difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull is lipstick, does that mean that Gov. Palin thinks hockey moms are violent, untrainable, and piddle all over the landscape?





Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:19:33
Taaaadddd

Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:20:52
God that woman does have a greating voice

Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:23:12
Are there drinking game rules for this evening yet?





Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:25:42
Quote by wickedpam:

That's okay TJ - took me a while to figure out your real name was Paul :D




Actually I finally figured it out when I got on ProducerChris' friends list and I made a few comments on the pics and something in this loopy head clicked.



Hah, I'm so far behind I'm listening to yesterday's SMS. I'm not sure how much I should claim for coming up with Milfy McMooseburger (the McMooseburger was already there and I just tacked on Milfy). I'm sorta anonymously famous

Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 13:28:43
good morning!!



For those that missed it yesterday:



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SL3r6GfxOiI/AAAAAAAABzk/3P-xBnprg6U/s400/cover2xc3.jpg


Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 13:32:40
Wow, Tri... Great blog.... Do you find it interesting that the Palin family is so closely associated with the Secession group of Alaska? :foil:



That said, the cover IS real...



And the speaches were hate filled last nite.

Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:34:10
Good morning all.



Since we had to wait on a US Open match for MSG, NY I didn't get out of work until 3 AM last night and since the Southern State Pkwy. was closed for road construction, I didn't get home until almost 4 AM.



Raine, I hope that cover is for real.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 13:36:13
So.. who's gonna watch the opening night of the NFL tonight instead of Pow McBush?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:37:44
Well, much more important is that Mama is on Tom Bergeron's Green channel show tonight.

Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 13:38:51
Morning folks... :coffee:



I was also noticing all the "Country First" signs, wondering "what the hell are they trying to say?... do they even know?" Do they even know how ironic that is coming from the party that has led the most self-serving selfish regime the last 8 years?



They say they claim McCain is a "maverick" for reaching across the aisle, yet all of the speeches last night were filled with lies and insinuations attacking the Democrats?



They say they want "reform", yet Palin has a record as dirty as the worst of any Republican?



You'll be able to tell how stupid a person is by the "McCain/Palin" sticker on their car. It means they bought this load of manure.

Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:39:23
If I was home tonight, the Giant game would be first choice for viewing for me. I'll let Mike Malloy yell at the TV.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:39:58
I still hold the belief that NO ONE has Presidental Executive experience until you hold the postion so it's all a moot point.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:44:04
To be honest I didn't watch - Bones, Top Design & Destination Truth, plus the internet were far more interesting.



what the hell is going on with the sound?

Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 13:44:09
This Dobson hypocrisy reminds me of the contradictory sound bites on The Daily show last night. If you missed it, look for it online.

Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:45:27
Sounds like they lost the line. First, the liveblog crashes now the line. I think it's a Republican plot.

Comment by m-hadley on 09/04/2008 13:46:49
Heya kids,

I'm back over here, having given up on the live blog - it's nuts over there. I keep on getting bounced out before I can even scroll down through the previous posts :rage:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:46:52
Quote by wickedpam:

To be honest I didn't watch - Bones, Top Design & Destination Truth, plus the internet were far more interesting.



what the hell is going on with the sound?


They lost the feed from Minneapolis. That's why you heard dead air, Jim go "Uh oh" and then they rolled bumper music. Either they roll a best-of piece or Jim flies solo if they don't get Momma and Chris back.

Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 13:48:19
in the meantime, here's an AP article debunking the worst lies in the speeches last night.

Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:50:42
Quote by Raine:

good morning!!



For those that missed it yesterday:



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SL3r6GfxOiI/AAAAAAAABzk/3P-xBnprg6U/s400/cover2xc3.jpg






Please, please, please, is this on the newsstands this week? Got a link to any stories?



I'd hate for this to be the Onion's work...

Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:51:01
It looks like they had to roll the best-of.

Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:55:04
On the Canal Zone...



Almost from the inception of the Canal Zone, questions arose as to whether the Zone was considered part of the United States for constitutional purposes, or, in the phrase of the day, whether the Constitution followed the flag. On July 28, 1904, Controller of the Treasury Robert Tracewell stated, "While the general spirit and purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the Constitution and laws of the country.[4]



In 1953, Congress passed legislation to specify the status of Americans born in the Canal Zone--and to exclude non-Americans born there from citizenship. Title 8, Section 1403 of the United States Code grants citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone with at least one parent who is a United States citizen. This differs from the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment which grants citizenship to all born in the United States, regardless of parental nationality.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:58:06
Yeah, I guess I'll pretty much give up on the liveblog today. Way too screwy.



Must be a Republican plot.

Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 14:00:07
Quote by TriSec:







Please, please, please, is this on the newsstands this week? Got a link to any stories?



I'd hate for this to be the Onion's work...


ABC News is reporting it

Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:00:43
I thought that Dick Morris liked the taste of prostitute's toes.

Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:03:51
Morning peeps.



Tri! Great Blog entry.

I watched last night, against my better judgement. But, "know thine enemy." RIght? I had expected I would guffaw a couple of times and roll my eyes on more than one ridiculous point. What I did not expect was how angry I would get watching this snarky, pathetic PROM QUEEN trying to wear her big girl pants and tell lie after lie, followed with snide comment after snide comment.

Her speech gave me the same burn in my stomach as George Bush's "Nope, not over here! Those weapons have gotta be here somewhere..." joke.

I cannot believe THIS woman thinks she deserves to be 1 heartbeat away from being the leader of America. What a f*ckin' joke! And, oddly I'm not laughing.



F*ckers.



Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 14:03:52
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 14:05:11
Quote by starling310:

Morning peeps.



Tri! Great Blog entry.

I watched last night, against my better judgement. But, "know thine enemy." RIght? I had expected I would guffaw a couple of times and roll my eyes on more than one ridiculous point. What I did not expect was how angry I would get watching this snarky, pathetic PROM QUEEN trying to wear her big gir pants and tell lie after lie, followed with snide comment after snide comment.

Her speech gave me the same burn in my stomach as George Bush's "Nope, not over here! Those weapons have gotta be here somewhere..." joke.

I cannot believe THIS woman thinks she deserves to be 1 heartbeat away from being the leader of America. What a f*ckin' joke! And, oddly I'm not laughing.



F*ckers.



:clap:

Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 14:05:50
It's 3 am, and John McCain is calling his VP

Comment by velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:07:55
Excellent post TriSec!



Once again, the republicans have topped themselves in the hypocrisy dept.! Sexism? Are you kidding me? Where were they when Hillary was running?



God, I wish Hillary would have jumped up onstage last night and said "I'll show you sexism bitch" before throwing her to the ground and kicking her ass!!



:rofl:

Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:09:04




This is what we need to keep doing.

I can't count how many times I yelled "That's a LIE!" while watching this.



I was a little disappointed by Rachel. I was hoping she would skewer the lies in that speech. But, it's hard to give a well thought out retort when Tweety keeps interrupting.

All of the other pundits calling this a great speech? Seriously?

Keith was most accurate in saying it was on par with Reese Witherspoon in Election.



The only amusing thing about her is that her voice is a cross between Marge Gunderson and Mia Sorvino.



Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:09:45
Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?

Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:10:41
Quote by velveeta jones:

God, I wish Hillary would have jumped up onstage last night and said "I'll show you sexism bitch" before throwing her to the ground and kicking her ass!!



:rofl:




Totally. I have never had more respect for Hillary.



And, what the hell is with saying Obama never wrote any legislation?????



Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 14:11:58
Quote by wickedpam:

Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?


No idea, didn't know there was an opening tomorrow. If you don't have something, I can throw something together.

Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 14:12:45
*** warning audio not work safe ****




Actual video...damn thing hates me. (3 am call...)



(edit from Raine -- but funny as hell)

Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:14:04
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?


No idea, didn't know there was an opening tomorrow. If you don't have something, I can throw something together.




I got something but I was just checking with you since Bob had mentioned you possible doing one. So I have it covered - no worries :D



Comment by velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:17:59
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:



Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.

Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:18:43


I have the Daily Show on right now. It might be easier to watch the 2 PM airing..



Ah, Drunky McPukeshoes leaving a trail of discarded Schlitz cans wherever he goes. I wonder if he's been in the same bathroom as Larry Craig?

Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:19:36
Quote by velveeta jones:

Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:



Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.






There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....

Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 14:20:39
Seems as tho it is true that the Enquirer is talking about a Palin affair this week.



I heard Momma mention something briefly, and wasn't sure if they were just joking or not...



They aren't... the enquirer is promising more on this story next week.

Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 14:21:06
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?


No idea, didn't know there was an opening tomorrow. If you don't have something, I can throw something together.




I got something but I was just checking with you since Bob had mentioned you possible doing one. So I have it covered - no worries :D



Hm...Okay then. Not like i'd do anything but ramble anyway.

Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 14:22:56
Quote by velveeta jones:

Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:



Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.




*grunt*



I'm a community organizer; I oversee a youth program for maybe 40 kids and their parents. I'm responsible for getting all the events planned, lining up adults to lead the meetings, arranging meeting spaces, funding, insurance, volunteers, everything.



Guess she just insulted me. But then again, I'm out here in the trenches, I don't have "people" to arrange photo ops for me.



F*ckers.