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Country First? Why is that familiar?
Author: TriSec
Date: 09/04/2008 10:45:16
Good Morning!
Have you been keeping up with our friends in Minneapolis? There's been a lot of interesting things happening up there in the Twin Cities.
I believe I have seen a whopping two persons of color on the convention floor....Mondo has observed the automated nature of the applause from the delegates, but "their eyes are empty" as if responding by rote, without any passion or conviction.
I'm impressed by the number of hand-painted signs; I don't know if this is the norm for the convention, but I don't recall seeing that at the DNC in Denver...it really makes this convention look like a bunch of low-budget amateurs.
And nevermind that "deer in the headlights" speech from Governor Palin last night....I don't recall ever hearing such a disjointed and unprofessional speech from a major candidate. And they speak of Obama's lack of experience...
But the thing that I have noticed the most is all of those "Country First" signs. I'm finding it vaguely unsettling. Much has been made about Obama giving a speech in a stadium to cap the convention, and of course comparisons were made to certain rallies that took place in Europe in the 1930s. But isn't sacrificing everything on the altar of the state one of the hallmarks of fascism? I know we're all familiar with it, but a brief review of the 14 characteristics of Fascism is in order. How much of this have we seen so far this week?
But that's not what motivated me to check the history books. Sometimes being a WWII geek has it's uses; today is one of those times. After Germany invaded Poland, and the major powers declared war, the United States chose to sit on the sidelines. During 1940 and most of 1941, the so-called "Great Debate" took place over whether or not the US should become involved. Complicating matters was FDR's campaign for the presidency, which was for an unprecedented 3rd term. Many saw him as a warmonger desperate to drive the US to war; others were looking for the slightest excuse to get the US involved.
It's not like there wasn't opportunity; after the Atlantic Charter in 1941, US Destroyers began escorting ships bound for England, and U-Boats began hunting them. Of course we all know Pearl Harbor ended the debate once and for all.
But at last that brings me to the history I was searching for....for there was an antiwar group called the America First Committee. They too thought the United States should come first, but for different reasons. Their charter was remarkably brief, to whit:
Alas....the group turned out to be anti-semitic, but that's a blog entry for another day.
The funny thing is, the America First Committe lives on today. The name was resurrected in 2002 as an isolationist third party. They're tiny; balloting in only two states (MA and FL), but they do have an interesting platform.
I've got to hand it to the GOP leadership, as once again they've taken a theme or an idea that they like the sound of, without checking to see if somebody else might be using the name, or if it has any historical implications.
Have you been keeping up with our friends in Minneapolis? There's been a lot of interesting things happening up there in the Twin Cities.
I believe I have seen a whopping two persons of color on the convention floor....Mondo has observed the automated nature of the applause from the delegates, but "their eyes are empty" as if responding by rote, without any passion or conviction.
I'm impressed by the number of hand-painted signs; I don't know if this is the norm for the convention, but I don't recall seeing that at the DNC in Denver...it really makes this convention look like a bunch of low-budget amateurs.
And nevermind that "deer in the headlights" speech from Governor Palin last night....I don't recall ever hearing such a disjointed and unprofessional speech from a major candidate. And they speak of Obama's lack of experience...
But the thing that I have noticed the most is all of those "Country First" signs. I'm finding it vaguely unsettling. Much has been made about Obama giving a speech in a stadium to cap the convention, and of course comparisons were made to certain rallies that took place in Europe in the 1930s. But isn't sacrificing everything on the altar of the state one of the hallmarks of fascism? I know we're all familiar with it, but a brief review of the 14 characteristics of Fascism is in order. How much of this have we seen so far this week?
-Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
-Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
-Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
-Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
-Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
-Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
But that's not what motivated me to check the history books. Sometimes being a WWII geek has it's uses; today is one of those times. After Germany invaded Poland, and the major powers declared war, the United States chose to sit on the sidelines. During 1940 and most of 1941, the so-called "Great Debate" took place over whether or not the US should become involved. Complicating matters was FDR's campaign for the presidency, which was for an unprecedented 3rd term. Many saw him as a warmonger desperate to drive the US to war; others were looking for the slightest excuse to get the US involved.
It's not like there wasn't opportunity; after the Atlantic Charter in 1941, US Destroyers began escorting ships bound for England, and U-Boats began hunting them. Of course we all know Pearl Harbor ended the debate once and for all.
But at last that brings me to the history I was searching for....for there was an antiwar group called the America First Committee. They too thought the United States should come first, but for different reasons. Their charter was remarkably brief, to whit:
-The United States must build an impregnable defense for America.
-No foreign power, nor group of powers, can successfully attack a prepared America.
-American democracy can be preserved only by keeping out of the European war.
-"Aid short of war" weakens national defense at home and threatens to involve America in war abroad.
Alas....the group turned out to be anti-semitic, but that's a blog entry for another day.
The funny thing is, the America First Committe lives on today. The name was resurrected in 2002 as an isolationist third party. They're tiny; balloting in only two states (MA and FL), but they do have an interesting platform.
Smaller federal government
The party seeks to eliminate several Cabinet departments within the Executive branch of the U.S. federal government, such as the departments of Housing and Urban Development and Education. The party also seeks to eliminate all federal funding for schools, believing that federal government money has led to more federal control over schools -- control, the party believes, that should rest in the hands of local governments.
Church/State issues
The party opposes the idea that the Constitution bars expressions of religious faith in the public square. It seeks to overturn all bans on organized prayer in public places, especially in public schools, as well as bans on displays of religious icons (such as tablets of the Ten Commandments)
I've got to hand it to the GOP leadership, as once again they've taken a theme or an idea that they like the sound of, without checking to see if somebody else might be using the name, or if it has any historical implications.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 12:11:47
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 12:11:47
morning :hug:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 12:24:19
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 12:24:19
Morning Tri, Mala 
:coffee:
:coffee:
Comment by 
m-hadley on 09/04/2008 12:43:47
m-hadley on 09/04/2008 12:43:47
Mornin' Mala , Tri and Scoop,
Frustration Nation over at the Live blog - I keep getting bounced out before I can even post, or I get some strange message like "you are posting too quickly, slow down."
It may take me awhile to recover after last night's litany of lies. Who knew that Sarah Palin was such a beee-och?
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
Frustration Nation over at the Live blog - I keep getting bounced out before I can even post, or I get some strange message like "you are posting too quickly, slow down."
It may take me awhile to recover after last night's litany of lies. Who knew that Sarah Palin was such a beee-och?
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace: & :hug:
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 12:51:44
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 12:51:44
Now Playing: MGMT / Electric Feel
Get up and dance!!
OOOH GIRL, SHOCK ME LIKE ELECTRIC EEL!
Get up and dance!!
OOOH GIRL, SHOCK ME LIKE ELECTRIC EEL!
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:07:37
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:07:37
Good morning everyone.
Took me this long to figure out who Mala was. Hi there!
You will note on many things I am extremely slow on the take.
Hi TriSec, mfaye & scoop.
Yeah, the liveblog is major frelled up today. It's like they have to think of new types of errors - quasi-logged in - posting too fast - changing the order of posts.
Took me this long to figure out who Mala was. Hi there!
You will note on many things I am extremely slow on the take.Hi TriSec, mfaye & scoop.
Yeah, the liveblog is major frelled up today. It's like they have to think of new types of errors - quasi-logged in - posting too fast - changing the order of posts.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:09:14
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:09:14
Hey Scoop, Faye and TJ!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:17:30
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:17:30
That's okay TJ - took me a while to figure out your real name was Paul :D
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:18:06
TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:18:06
So if the only difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull is lipstick, does that mean that Gov. Palin thinks hockey moms are violent, untrainable, and piddle all over the landscape?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:19:33
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:19:33
Taaaadddd
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:20:52
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:20:52
God that woman does have a greating voice
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:23:12
TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:23:12
Are there drinking game rules for this evening yet?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:25:42
Actually I finally figured it out when I got on ProducerChris' friends list and I made a few comments on the pics and something in this loopy head clicked.
Hah, I'm so far behind I'm listening to yesterday's SMS. I'm not sure how much I should claim for coming up with Milfy McMooseburger (the McMooseburger was already there and I just tacked on Milfy). I'm sorta anonymously famous
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:25:42
Quote by wickedpam:
That's okay TJ - took me a while to figure out your real name was Paul :D
Actually I finally figured it out when I got on ProducerChris' friends list and I made a few comments on the pics and something in this loopy head clicked.
Hah, I'm so far behind I'm listening to yesterday's SMS. I'm not sure how much I should claim for coming up with Milfy McMooseburger (the McMooseburger was already there and I just tacked on Milfy). I'm sorta anonymously famous
Comment by 
Raine on 09/04/2008 13:28:43
Raine on 09/04/2008 13:28:43
good morning!!
For those that missed it yesterday:
For those that missed it yesterday:
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 13:32:40
Raine on 09/04/2008 13:32:40
Wow, Tri... Great blog.... Do you find it interesting that the Palin family is so closely associated with the Secession group of Alaska? :foil:
That said, the cover IS real...
And the speaches were hate filled last nite.
That said, the cover IS real...
And the speaches were hate filled last nite.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:34:10
livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:34:10
Good morning all. 
Since we had to wait on a US Open match for MSG, NY I didn't get out of work until 3 AM last night and since the Southern State Pkwy. was closed for road construction, I didn't get home until almost 4 AM.
Raine, I hope that cover is for real.
Since we had to wait on a US Open match for MSG, NY I didn't get out of work until 3 AM last night and since the Southern State Pkwy. was closed for road construction, I didn't get home until almost 4 AM.
Raine, I hope that cover is for real.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 13:36:13
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 13:36:13
So.. who's gonna watch the opening night of the NFL tonight instead of Pow McBush?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:37:44
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:37:44
Well, much more important is that Mama is on Tom Bergeron's Green channel show tonight.
Comment by 
BobR on 09/04/2008 13:38:51
BobR on 09/04/2008 13:38:51
Morning folks... :coffee:
I was also noticing all the "Country First" signs, wondering "what the hell are they trying to say?... do they even know?" Do they even know how ironic that is coming from the party that has led the most self-serving selfish regime the last 8 years?
They say they claim McCain is a "maverick" for reaching across the aisle, yet all of the speeches last night were filled with lies and insinuations attacking the Democrats?
They say they want "reform", yet Palin has a record as dirty as the worst of any Republican?
You'll be able to tell how stupid a person is by the "McCain/Palin" sticker on their car. It means they bought this load of manure.
I was also noticing all the "Country First" signs, wondering "what the hell are they trying to say?... do they even know?" Do they even know how ironic that is coming from the party that has led the most self-serving selfish regime the last 8 years?
They say they claim McCain is a "maverick" for reaching across the aisle, yet all of the speeches last night were filled with lies and insinuations attacking the Democrats?
They say they want "reform", yet Palin has a record as dirty as the worst of any Republican?
You'll be able to tell how stupid a person is by the "McCain/Palin" sticker on their car. It means they bought this load of manure.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:39:23
livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:39:23
If I was home tonight, the Giant game would be first choice for viewing for me. I'll let Mike Malloy yell at the TV.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:39:58
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:39:58
I still hold the belief that NO ONE has Presidental Executive experience until you hold the postion so it's all a moot point.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:44:04
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 13:44:04
To be honest I didn't watch - Bones, Top Design & Destination Truth, plus the internet were far more interesting.
what the hell is going on with the sound?
what the hell is going on with the sound?
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 13:44:09
BobR on 09/04/2008 13:44:09
This Dobson hypocrisy reminds me of the contradictory sound bites on The Daily show last night. If you missed it, look for it online.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:45:27
livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:45:27
Sounds like they lost the line. First, the liveblog crashes now the line. I think it's a Republican plot. 
Comment by m-hadley on 09/04/2008 13:46:49
m-hadley on 09/04/2008 13:46:49
Heya kids,
I'm back over here, having given up on the live blog - it's nuts over there. I keep on getting bounced out before I can even scroll down through the previous posts :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
I'm back over here, having given up on the live blog - it's nuts over there. I keep on getting bounced out before I can even scroll down through the previous posts :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:46:52
They lost the feed from Minneapolis. That's why you heard dead air, Jim go "Uh oh" and then they rolled bumper music. Either they roll a best-of piece or Jim flies solo if they don't get Momma and Chris back.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:46:52
Quote by wickedpam:
To be honest I didn't watch - Bones, Top Design & Destination Truth, plus the internet were far more interesting.
what the hell is going on with the sound?
They lost the feed from Minneapolis. That's why you heard dead air, Jim go "Uh oh" and then they rolled bumper music. Either they roll a best-of piece or Jim flies solo if they don't get Momma and Chris back.
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 13:48:19
BobR on 09/04/2008 13:48:19
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:50:42
Please, please, please, is this on the newsstands this week? Got a link to any stories?
I'd hate for this to be the Onion's work...
TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:50:42
Quote by Raine:
good morning!!
For those that missed it yesterday:
Please, please, please, is this on the newsstands this week? Got a link to any stories?
I'd hate for this to be the Onion's work...
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:51:01
livingonli on 09/04/2008 13:51:01
It looks like they had to roll the best-of.
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:55:04
TriSec on 09/04/2008 13:55:04
On the Canal Zone...
Almost from the inception of the Canal Zone, questions arose as to whether the Zone was considered part of the United States for constitutional purposes, or, in the phrase of the day, whether the Constitution followed the flag. On July 28, 1904, Controller of the Treasury Robert Tracewell stated, "While the general spirit and purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the Constitution and laws of the country.[4]
In 1953, Congress passed legislation to specify the status of Americans born in the Canal Zone--and to exclude non-Americans born there from citizenship. Title 8, Section 1403 of the United States Code grants citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone with at least one parent who is a United States citizen. This differs from the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment which grants citizenship to all born in the United States, regardless of parental nationality.
Almost from the inception of the Canal Zone, questions arose as to whether the Zone was considered part of the United States for constitutional purposes, or, in the phrase of the day, whether the Constitution followed the flag. On July 28, 1904, Controller of the Treasury Robert Tracewell stated, "While the general spirit and purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the Constitution and laws of the country.[4]
In 1953, Congress passed legislation to specify the status of Americans born in the Canal Zone--and to exclude non-Americans born there from citizenship. Title 8, Section 1403 of the United States Code grants citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone with at least one parent who is a United States citizen. This differs from the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment which grants citizenship to all born in the United States, regardless of parental nationality.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:58:06
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 13:58:06
Yeah, I guess I'll pretty much give up on the liveblog today. Way too screwy.
Must be a Republican plot.
Must be a Republican plot.
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 14:00:07
ABC News is reporting it
BobR on 09/04/2008 14:00:07
Quote by TriSec:
Please, please, please, is this on the newsstands this week? Got a link to any stories?
I'd hate for this to be the Onion's work...
ABC News is reporting it
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:00:43
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:00:43
I thought that Dick Morris liked the taste of prostitute's toes.
Comment by 
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:03:51
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:03:51
Morning peeps. 
Tri! Great Blog entry.
I watched last night, against my better judgement. But, "know thine enemy." RIght? I had expected I would guffaw a couple of times and roll my eyes on more than one ridiculous point. What I did not expect was how angry I would get watching this snarky, pathetic PROM QUEEN trying to wear her big girl pants and tell lie after lie, followed with snide comment after snide comment.
Her speech gave me the same burn in my stomach as George Bush's "Nope, not over here! Those weapons have gotta be here somewhere..." joke.
I cannot believe THIS woman thinks she deserves to be 1 heartbeat away from being the leader of America. What a f*ckin' joke! And, oddly I'm not laughing.
F*ckers.
Tri! Great Blog entry.
I watched last night, against my better judgement. But, "know thine enemy." RIght? I had expected I would guffaw a couple of times and roll my eyes on more than one ridiculous point. What I did not expect was how angry I would get watching this snarky, pathetic PROM QUEEN trying to wear her big girl pants and tell lie after lie, followed with snide comment after snide comment.
Her speech gave me the same burn in my stomach as George Bush's "Nope, not over here! Those weapons have gotta be here somewhere..." joke.
I cannot believe THIS woman thinks she deserves to be 1 heartbeat away from being the leader of America. What a f*ckin' joke! And, oddly I'm not laughing.
F*ckers.
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 14:05:11
:clap:
BobR on 09/04/2008 14:05:11
Quote by starling310:
Morning peeps.
Tri! Great Blog entry.
I watched last night, against my better judgement. But, "know thine enemy." RIght? I had expected I would guffaw a couple of times and roll my eyes on more than one ridiculous point. What I did not expect was how angry I would get watching this snarky, pathetic PROM QUEEN trying to wear her big gir pants and tell lie after lie, followed with snide comment after snide comment.
Her speech gave me the same burn in my stomach as George Bush's "Nope, not over here! Those weapons have gotta be here somewhere..." joke.
I cannot believe THIS woman thinks she deserves to be 1 heartbeat away from being the leader of America. What a f*ckin' joke! And, oddly I'm not laughing.
F*ckers.
:clap:
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:07:55
velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:07:55
Excellent post TriSec!
Once again, the republicans have topped themselves in the hypocrisy dept.! Sexism? Are you kidding me? Where were they when Hillary was running?
God, I wish Hillary would have jumped up onstage last night and said "I'll show you sexism bitch" before throwing her to the ground and kicking her ass!!
:rofl:
Once again, the republicans have topped themselves in the hypocrisy dept.! Sexism? Are you kidding me? Where were they when Hillary was running?
God, I wish Hillary would have jumped up onstage last night and said "I'll show you sexism bitch" before throwing her to the ground and kicking her ass!!
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:09:04
This is what we need to keep doing.
I can't count how many times I yelled "That's a LIE!" while watching this.
I was a little disappointed by Rachel. I was hoping she would skewer the lies in that speech.
But, it's hard to give a well thought out retort when Tweety keeps interrupting.
All of the other pundits calling this a great speech? Seriously?
Keith was most accurate in saying it was on par with Reese Witherspoon in Election.
The only amusing thing about her is that her voice is a cross between Marge Gunderson and Mia Sorvino.
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:09:04
Quote by BobR:
More debunking of lies in Palin's speech
This is what we need to keep doing.
I can't count how many times I yelled "That's a LIE!" while watching this.
I was a little disappointed by Rachel. I was hoping she would skewer the lies in that speech.
But, it's hard to give a well thought out retort when Tweety keeps interrupting.All of the other pundits calling this a great speech? Seriously?
Keith was most accurate in saying it was on par with Reese Witherspoon in Election.
The only amusing thing about her is that her voice is a cross between Marge Gunderson and Mia Sorvino.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:09:45
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:09:45
Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:10:41
Totally. I have never had more respect for Hillary.
And, what the hell is with saying Obama never wrote any legislation?????
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:10:41
Quote by velveeta jones:
God, I wish Hillary would have jumped up onstage last night and said "I'll show you sexism bitch" before throwing her to the ground and kicking her ass!!
:rofl:
Totally. I have never had more respect for Hillary.
And, what the hell is with saying Obama never wrote any legislation?????
Comment by 
Random on 09/04/2008 14:11:58
No idea, didn't know there was an opening tomorrow. If you don't have something, I can throw something together.
Random on 09/04/2008 14:11:58
Quote by wickedpam:
Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?
No idea, didn't know there was an opening tomorrow. If you don't have something, I can throw something together.
Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 14:12:45
Random on 09/04/2008 14:12:45
*** warning audio not work safe ****
Actual video...damn thing hates me. (3 am call...)
(edit from Raine -- but funny as hell)
Actual video...damn thing hates me. (3 am call...)
(edit from Raine -- but funny as hell)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:14:04
I got something but I was just checking with you since Bob had mentioned you possible doing one. So I have it covered - no worries :D
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:14:04
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:
Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?
No idea, didn't know there was an opening tomorrow. If you don't have something, I can throw something together.
I got something but I was just checking with you since Bob had mentioned you possible doing one. So I have it covered - no worries :D
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:17:59
velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:17:59
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:18:43
I have the Daily Show on right now. It might be easier to watch the 2 PM airing..
Ah, Drunky McPukeshoes leaving a trail of discarded Schlitz cans wherever he goes. I wonder if he's been in the same bathroom as Larry Craig?
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:18:43
I have the Daily Show on right now. It might be easier to watch the 2 PM airing..
Ah, Drunky McPukeshoes leaving a trail of discarded Schlitz cans wherever he goes. I wonder if he's been in the same bathroom as Larry Craig?
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:19:36
There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:19:36
Quote by velveeta jones:
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 14:20:39
Raine on 09/04/2008 14:20:39
Seems as tho it is true that the Enquirer is talking about a Palin affair this week.
I heard Momma mention something briefly, and wasn't sure if they were just joking or not...
They aren't... the enquirer is promising more on this story next week.
I heard Momma mention something briefly, and wasn't sure if they were just joking or not...
They aren't... the enquirer is promising more on this story next week.
Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 14:21:06
Hm...Okay then. Not like i'd do anything but ramble anyway.
Random on 09/04/2008 14:21:06
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:
Hey Random - are you or I doing the opening tomorrow?
No idea, didn't know there was an opening tomorrow. If you don't have something, I can throw something together.
I got something but I was just checking with you since Bob had mentioned you possible doing one. So I have it covered - no worries :D
Hm...Okay then. Not like i'd do anything but ramble anyway.
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 14:22:56
*grunt*
I'm a community organizer; I oversee a youth program for maybe 40 kids and their parents. I'm responsible for getting all the events planned, lining up adults to lead the meetings, arranging meeting spaces, funding, insurance, volunteers, everything.
Guess she just insulted me. But then again, I'm out here in the trenches, I don't have "people" to arrange photo ops for me.
F*ckers.
TriSec on 09/04/2008 14:22:56
Quote by velveeta jones:
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
*grunt*
I'm a community organizer; I oversee a youth program for maybe 40 kids and their parents. I'm responsible for getting all the events planned, lining up adults to lead the meetings, arranging meeting spaces, funding, insurance, volunteers, everything.
Guess she just insulted me. But then again, I'm out here in the trenches, I don't have "people" to arrange photo ops for me.
F*ckers.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 14:24:22
I know!
That woman made my blood boil.
When she said she took on the *good Ol Boys* in alaska, and now she is partnering with the good ol boys in DC, all I knew was that she has never seen the likes of Joe Biden... and since she said she isn't afraid to play with the big dogs, She lost any of the argument that she is being treated badly becuase she is a woman.
Tough shit Sarah. you ain't seen nothing yet.
Raine on 09/04/2008 14:24:22
Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....
That woman made my blood boil.
When she said she took on the *good Ol Boys* in alaska, and now she is partnering with the good ol boys in DC, all I knew was that she has never seen the likes of Joe Biden... and since she said she isn't afraid to play with the big dogs, She lost any of the argument that she is being treated badly becuase she is a woman.
Tough shit Sarah. you ain't seen nothing yet.
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:25:33
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:25:33
The fact that she uses having a Special Needs child as a qualification. I mean, come on! My aunt is Downs, so I guess if my Grandmother were still alive, she could run for VeePee.
God, that woman pissed me off.
God, that woman pissed me off.
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:26:24
THE GLOVES ARE OFF!!!!
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:26:24
Quote by Raine:I know!Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....
That woman made my blood boil.
When she said she took on the *good Ol Boys* in alaska, and now she is partnering with the good ol boys in DC, all I knew was that she has never seen the likes of Joe Biden... and since she said she isn't afraid to play with the big dogs, She lost any of the argument that she is being treated badly becuase she is a woman.
Tough shit Sarah. you ain't seen nothing yet.
THE GLOVES ARE OFF!!!!
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:29:09
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:29:09
OH! And the "Drill, Baby Drill" chants.
Woh. Nelly.
Woh. Nelly.
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 14:30:34
TriSec on 09/04/2008 14:30:34
Say, using McCain/Palin logic, am I a Naval Expert because I live in a city that's near the ocean?
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:31:29
I know if I won the lottery I would start a 527 that would go after McCain and Palin with both barrels. They would regret all the shit they said at the convention when I'm done with them.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:31:29
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:I know!Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....
That woman made my blood boil.
When she said she took on the *good Ol Boys* in alaska, and now she is partnering with the good ol boys in DC, all I knew was that she has never seen the likes of Joe Biden... and since she said she isn't afraid to play with the big dogs, She lost any of the argument that she is being treated badly becuase she is a woman.
Tough shit Sarah. you ain't seen nothing yet.
THE GLOVES ARE OFF!!!!
I know if I won the lottery I would start a 527 that would go after McCain and Palin with both barrels. They would regret all the shit they said at the convention when I'm done with them.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 14:34:38
I posted this last night, and I would love a little inout on these questions, becuase for myself, this baby thing REALLY bothered me.
From last night:
Sorry but I have to quote myself. I am really bothered by this.
Imagine it... You have a four month old, and your friend calls you up and says I have Pearl Jam Tickets... and you say SURE!
Don't you think someone would wonder why you have a baby ... at a Convention?
This is really really bad for that little boys ears... and emotional well being. you simply do not bring an infant to a loud hall.
And yes, the ear plugs would be nice to know about, especially since Sarah has decided that she is going to be an advocate for people with *special needs* children. I am disgusted at this display. That little infant should NEVER been at the convention.
Raine on 09/04/2008 14:34:38
Quote by starling310:
The fact that she uses having a Special Needs child as a qualification. I mean, come on! My aunt is Downs, so I guess if my Grandmother were still alive, she could run for VeePee.
God, that woman pissed me off.
From last night:
Quote by BobR:
Raine here:
Quick but very important question... did that little baby have EARPLUGS? because I just saw that family on the stage, and that place is VERY VERY loud. NOT good for a 4 month old.
Imagine it... You have a four month old, and your friend calls you up and says I have Pearl Jam Tickets... and you say SURE!
Don't you think someone would wonder why you have a baby ... at a Convention?
This is really really bad for that little boys ears... and emotional well being. you simply do not bring an infant to a loud hall.
And yes, the ear plugs would be nice to know about, especially since Sarah has decided that she is going to be an advocate for people with *special needs* children. I am disgusted at this display. That little infant should NEVER been at the convention.
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:36:17
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:36:17
:LARGE LONG WAILING SCREAM (SILENTLY AS THE COLD HAS TRASHED MY VOICE):
snif.
snif.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 14:36:18
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 14:36:18
My blood pressure started up when Demolitions expert Carly Fiorina opened her piehole, spiked when Mittens Romney launched into his tirade of lies, surged when G9u11ani got the crowd going DRILL BABY, DRILL so there was no place left to go when Milfy McMooseburger started waving her pompoms.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 14:36:31
Why yes sir.
And as I said earlier this week, I have been in Jamaica So I can be an expert on Cafta.
Raine on 09/04/2008 14:36:31
Quote by TriSec:
Say, using McCain/Palin logic, am I a Naval Expert because I live in a city that's near the ocean?
And as I said earlier this week, I have been in Jamaica So I can be an expert on Cafta.
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:37:38
Very true.
Yeah, they were using that kid as a token, definitely.
psst...that was one cute baby.
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:37:38
Quote by Raine:I posted this last night, and I would love a little inout on these questions, becuase for myself, this baby thing REALLY bothered me.Quote by starling310:
The fact that she uses having a Special Needs child as a qualification. I mean, come on! My aunt is Downs, so I guess if my Grandmother were still alive, she could run for VeePee.
God, that woman pissed me off.
From last night:Sorry but I have to quote myself. I am really bothered by this.Quote by BobR:
Raine here:
Quick but very important question... did that little baby have EARPLUGS? because I just saw that family on the stage, and that place is VERY VERY loud. NOT good for a 4 month old.
Imagine it... You have a four month old, and your friend calls you up and says I have Pearl Jam Tickets... and you say SURE!
Don't you think someone would wonder why you have a baby ... at a Convention?
This is really really bad for that little boys ears... and emotional well being. you simply do not bring an infant to a loud hall.
And yes, the ear plugs would be nice to know about, especially since Sarah has decided that she is going to be an advocate for people with *special needs* children. I am disgusted at this display. That little infant should NEVER been at the convention.
Very true.
Yeah, they were using that kid as a token, definitely.
psst...that was one cute baby.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:38:28
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:38:28
traiter 
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:38:33
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:38:33
I've been to Italy. May I be an Ambassador?
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:40:18
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:40:18
btw Raine, it might be difficult to find proper earplugs for a down's baby....most down's kids have problems with the shape of their ear canals.
and that concludes this episode of ask the pediatric surgical nurse.
and that concludes this episode of ask the pediatric surgical nurse.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:41:26
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:41:26
I don't get the attraction to Levi? 
He reminds me of every HS bully that made my years at New Hanover shear hell
He reminds me of every HS bully that made my years at New Hanover shear hell
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:41:59
You get Italy - I want England.
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:41:59
Quote by starling310:
I've been to Italy. May I be an Ambassador?
You get Italy - I want England.
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:42:05
Seriously, Aunt Azalea could not sleep last night. Even Jon Stewert couldn't calm her down. I offered to give her the Sunday blog to rant. And even if she "Goes Harlem" on her (as I call it) I can add the definitions for us "regular" people.
:p
velveeta jones on 09/04/2008 14:42:05
Quote by Raine:I know!Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....
That woman made my blood boil.
When she said she took on the *good Ol Boys* in alaska, and now she is partnering with the good ol boys in DC, all I knew was that she has never seen the likes of Joe Biden... and since she said she isn't afraid to play with the big dogs, She lost any of the argument that she is being treated badly becuase she is a woman.
Tough shit Sarah. you ain't seen nothing yet.
Seriously, Aunt Azalea could not sleep last night. Even Jon Stewert couldn't calm her down. I offered to give her the Sunday blog to rant. And even if she "Goes Harlem" on her (as I call it) I can add the definitions for us "regular" people.
:p
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:42:30
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:42:30
BITCH BITCH BITCH.
okay, I feel a little better now.
okay, I feel a little better now.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:43:01
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 14:43:01
this woman's voice is just nails on a chalk board
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:43:34
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:43:34
Hi MNRN. Need more healing vibes.
God, what an ugly mean-spirited bunch at the GOP convention.
God, what an ugly mean-spirited bunch at the GOP convention.
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:43:59
THANK you! I kept saying the same thing last nite, but I forced myself to watch...the..speech....
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:43:59
Quote by wickedpam:
this woman's voice is just nails on a chalk board
THANK you! I kept saying the same thing last nite, but I forced myself to watch...the..speech....
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:44:16
Then I want Canada.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:44:16
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
I've been to Italy. May I be an Ambassador?
You get Italy - I want England.
Then I want Canada.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 14:46:04
Thank you for that information, I really appreciate it.
it still bothers me so much. The decible leven in that place must have been off the hook. That just can't be healthy.
Raine on 09/04/2008 14:46:04
Quote by MNRN:
btw Raine, it might be difficult to find proper earplugs for a down's baby....most down's kids have problems with the shape of their ear canals.
and that concludes this episode of ask the pediatric surgical nurse.
it still bothers me so much. The decible leven in that place must have been off the hook. That just can't be healthy.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:46:48
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:46:48
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 14:46:56
Oh... I look forward to that Blog!
Raine on 09/04/2008 14:46:56
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:I know!Quote by starling310:Quote by velveeta jones:
Something else about Palin’s snarky speech that I don’t think anyone has touched on:
Republicans want smaller government. So when your government won’t help you - you might turn to a ……. COMMUNITY ORGANIZER to help you find a way to solve your problems!! Just sayin’.
There is just so much about her speech....soooo much.....
That woman made my blood boil.
When she said she took on the *good Ol Boys* in alaska, and now she is partnering with the good ol boys in DC, all I knew was that she has never seen the likes of Joe Biden... and since she said she isn't afraid to play with the big dogs, She lost any of the argument that she is being treated badly becuase she is a woman.
Tough shit Sarah. you ain't seen nothing yet.
Seriously, Aunt Azalea could not sleep last night. Even Jon Stewert couldn't calm her down. I offered to give her the Sunday blog to rant. And even if she "Goes Harlem" on her (as I call it) I can add the definitions for us "regular" people.
:p
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:47:40
hey liv. Yes and Yes.
I was watching the local nooz here. So all the extra money the businesses near the Xcel thought they were going to make....not so much. See, there are so few hotel rooms in downtown St. Paul, the delegates were bussed in and out of town, not spending any real time of money in the actual city of St Paul (and there are a couple of great places right there, lemme tell ya!)
Reap whatcha sow, eh?
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:47:40
Quote by livingonli:
Hi MNRN. Need more healing vibes.
God, what an ugly mean-spirited bunch at the GOP convention.
hey liv. Yes and Yes.
I was watching the local nooz here. So all the extra money the businesses near the Xcel thought they were going to make....not so much. See, there are so few hotel rooms in downtown St. Paul, the delegates were bussed in and out of town, not spending any real time of money in the actual city of St Paul (and there are a couple of great places right there, lemme tell ya!)
Reap whatcha sow, eh?
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:47:54
Yeah, he's got "date rape" written all over him.
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:47:54
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get the attraction to Levi?
Yeah, he's got "date rape" written all over him.
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:49:36
the acoustics in the Xcel are actually good, but my 4 year old found it loud when we went to see the lacrosse team play. I am going to see Coldplay there next month.
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:49:36
Quote by Raine:Thank you for that information, I really appreciate it.Quote by MNRN:
btw Raine, it might be difficult to find proper earplugs for a down's baby....most down's kids have problems with the shape of their ear canals.
and that concludes this episode of ask the pediatric surgical nurse.
it still bothers me so much. The decible leven in that place must have been off the hook. That just can't be healthy.
the acoustics in the Xcel are actually good, but my 4 year old found it loud when we went to see the lacrosse team play. I am going to see Coldplay there next month.
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 14:50:24
I see that in a LOT of Republicans...
BobR on 09/04/2008 14:50:24
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get the attraction to Levi?
I see that in a LOT of Republicans...
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:50:32
I guess the GOPers don't want to hang out with the unwashed masses.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:50:32
Quote by MNRN:Quote by livingonli:
Hi MNRN. Need more healing vibes.
God, what an ugly mean-spirited bunch at the GOP convention.
hey liv. Yes and Yes.
I was watching the local nooz here. So all the extra money the businesses near the Xcel thought they were going to make....not so much. See, there are so few hotel rooms in downtown St. Paul, the delegates were bussed in and out of town, not spending any real time of money in the actual city of St Paul (and there are a couple of great places right there, lemme tell ya!)
Reap whatcha sow, eh?
I guess the GOPers don't want to hang out with the unwashed masses.
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:50:38
starling310 on 09/04/2008 14:50:38
My Baby Daddy said "I'll take the Pant Suit any day."
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 14:51:26
So what's your opinion (as a healthcare provider) on the effect that level of noise would have on a newborn's ears?
BobR on 09/04/2008 14:51:26
Quote by MNRN:
the acoustics in the Xcel are actually good, but my 4 year old found it loud when we went to see the lacrosse team play. I am going to see Coldplay there next month.
So what's your opinion (as a healthcare provider) on the effect that level of noise would have on a newborn's ears?
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:51:46
:rofl: :rofl:
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:51:46
Quote by starling310:
My Baby Daddy said "I'll take the Pant Suit any day."
:rofl:
:rofl: :rofl:
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:54:03
I would not bring a newborn to that place....He should be HOME sleeping. Home. He seems to spend a lot of time sleeping in other places.
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:54:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by MNRN:
the acoustics in the Xcel are actually good, but my 4 year old found it loud when we went to see the lacrosse team play. I am going to see Coldplay there next month.
So what's your opinion (as a healthcare provider) on the effect that level of noise would have on a newborn's ears?
I would not bring a newborn to that place....He should be HOME sleeping. Home. He seems to spend a lot of time sleeping in other places.
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 14:54:33
TriSec on 09/04/2008 14:54:33
Gee, so Obama is going on The Factor tonight?
Competing with the RNC, I see.
Well, here's to hoping he goads Bill into an outburst.
Competing with the RNC, I see.
Well, here's to hoping he goads Bill into an outburst.
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:56:27
MNRN on 09/04/2008 14:56:27
okay, her voice is just ridiculous. I just want to throttle her.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:56:39
That is the kind of guy who must use that drug a lot to take advantage of women. How soon before he disappears to find someone else to notch on his bedpost.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:56:39
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get the attraction to Levi?
Yeah, he's got "date rape" written all over him.
That is the kind of guy who must use that drug a lot to take advantage of women. How soon before he disappears to find someone else to notch on his bedpost.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:57:11
Please do. You're close enough.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 14:57:11
Quote by MNRN:
okay, her voice is just ridiculous. I just want to throttle her.
Please do. You're close enough.
Comment by m-hadley on 09/04/2008 14:58:03
Bingo :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:fbump:
m-hadley on 09/04/2008 14:58:03
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get the attraction to Levi?
Yeah, he's got "date rape" written all over him.
Bingo :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:fbump:
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:00:28
:rofl:
I have actually had to keep myself from heading across the river. I'd get arrested and that would not look good on my academic record at St Kates this first semester, ya know.
I just can't wait to see her in front of the media attempting to answer a question without benefit of a teleprompter.
MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:00:28
Quote by livingonli:Quote by MNRN:
okay, her voice is just ridiculous. I just want to throttle her.
Please do. You're close enough.
:rofl:
I have actually had to keep myself from heading across the river. I'd get arrested and that would not look good on my academic record at St Kates this first semester, ya know.
I just can't wait to see her in front of the media attempting to answer a question without benefit of a teleprompter.
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 15:01:11
BobR on 09/04/2008 15:01:11
Raine Rant:
The speeches last night were like an hour and a half of the FAUX News Half Hour Comedy Hour. We're on a precipice and they're up there making jokes and being nasty. How many soldiers died while she was making her snarky jokes? How many children went to bed hungry? How many seniors had to decide what prescriptions to fill while they were feeding their empty calorie red meat to the base?
(some editing and enhancement on my part...
)
The speeches last night were like an hour and a half of the FAUX News Half Hour Comedy Hour. We're on a precipice and they're up there making jokes and being nasty. How many soldiers died while she was making her snarky jokes? How many children went to bed hungry? How many seniors had to decide what prescriptions to fill while they were feeding their empty calorie red meat to the base?
(some editing and enhancement on my part...
)
Comment by m-hadley on 09/04/2008 15:02:42
No kidding - I give that marriage about nine and half months (nine months for him to knock up another teenage gal and a couple weeks for her to find out that Baby Trojan has a step-brother.) That was one of the names that Mondo came up with yesterday, ennit?
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance:
m-hadley on 09/04/2008 15:02:42
Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get the attraction to Levi?
Yeah, he's got "date rape" written all over him.
That is the kind of guy who must use that drug a lot to take advantage of women. How soon before he disappears to find someone else to notch on his bedpost.
No kidding - I give that marriage about nine and half months (nine months for him to knock up another teenage gal and a couple weeks for her to find out that Baby Trojan has a step-brother.) That was one of the names that Mondo came up with yesterday, ennit?
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance:
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2008 15:04:17
BobR on 09/04/2008 15:04:17
Bob continues his role as Raine's stenographer...
As she mentioned last night, her mentioning the day her son is leaving for Iraq (9/11 of course) is either a lie or breaking the law. You do NOT disclose when the son of a VP candidate is going to be arriving "in country".
As she mentioned last night, her mentioning the day her son is leaving for Iraq (9/11 of course) is either a lie or breaking the law. You do NOT disclose when the son of a VP candidate is going to be arriving "in country".
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:06:40
What makes you think they'll ask her anything of substance?
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:06:40
Quote by MNRN:Quote by livingonli:Quote by MNRN:
okay, her voice is just ridiculous. I just want to throttle her.
Please do. You're close enough.
:rofl:
I have actually had to keep myself from heading across the river. I'd get arrested and that would not look good on my academic record at St Kates this first semester, ya know.
I just can't wait to see her in front of the media attempting to answer a question without benefit of a teleprompter.
What makes you think they'll ask her anything of substance?
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:07:33
Ooh, let's run with it. If the law was enforced, it would seem that 90% of Republican elected officials and their aides would be in jail.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:07:33
Quote by BobR:
Bob continues his role as Raine's stenographer...
As she mentioned last night, her mentioning the day her son is leaving for Iraq (9/11 of course) is either a lie or breaking the law. You do NOT disclose when the son of a VP candidate is going to be arriving "in country".
Ooh, let's run with it. If the law was enforced, it would seem that 90% of Republican elected officials and their aides would be in jail.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:09:21
That's like being a traitor? Isn't it? That's punishable by execution since we're "at war". Right?
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:09:21
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:
Bob continues his role as Raine's stenographer...
As she mentioned last night, her mentioning the day her son is leaving for Iraq (9/11 of course) is either a lie or breaking the law. You do NOT disclose when the son of a VP candidate is going to be arriving "in country".
Ooh, let's run with it. If the law was enforced, it would seem that 90% of Republican elected officials and their aides would be in jail.
That's like being a traitor? Isn't it? That's punishable by execution since we're "at war". Right?
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:11:17
livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:11:17
The baby was passed around like a prop in a movie or Suri Cruise.
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:11:40
starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:11:40
It's working with the wRight...how many people were interviewed last night and said things like "I just think they will keep us safe."
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:12:53
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:12:53
you know, I fell in love with that little gorl Piper last night. She is a cutie patootie. I smell future Dem all over her. When they panned to the kids, it was lil piper who looked at her big brothers and sisters and was like"Guys, Stand up!" and then she stood up, elder siblings followed.
When she was holding her brother, She licked her hand and matted down his hair.. that was an aww moment.
When she was holding her brother, She licked her hand and matted down his hair.. that was an aww moment.
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:15:11
I really wanted to save that little baby from his evil mother.
starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:15:11
Quote by Raine:
you know, I fell in love with that little gorl Piper last night. She is a cutie patootie. I smell future Dem all over her. When they panned to the kids, it was lil piper who looked at her big brothers and sisters and was like"Guys, Stand up!" and then she stood up, elder siblings followed.
When she was holding her brother, She licked her hand and matted down his hair.. that was an aww moment.
I really wanted to save that little baby from his evil mother.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:15:33
That was my politics aside moment.
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:15:33
Quote by Raine:
you know, I fell in love with that little girl Piper last night. She is a cutie patootie. I smell future Dem all over her. When they panned to the kids, it was lil piper who looked at her big brothers and sisters and was like"Guys, Stand up!" and then she stood up, elder siblings followed.
When she was holding her brother, She licked her hand and matted down his hair.. that was an aww moment.
That was my politics aside moment.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:15:54
For the Low Information and Low IQ voters. The child with down's will probably end up smarter than these Republicans.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:15:54
Quote by starling310:
It's working with the wRight...how many people were interviewed last night and said things like "I just think they will keep us safe."
For the Low Information and Low IQ voters. The child with down's will probably end up smarter than these Republicans.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:16:58
I know. it was really bothersome. REALLY.
Sarah has proclaimed that she is an advocate for special needs babies and shows it by bringing her own som and treates him like a football.
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:16:58
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:
you know, I fell in love with that little gorl Piper last night. She is a cutie patootie. I smell future Dem all over her. When they panned to the kids, it was lil piper who looked at her big brothers and sisters and was like"Guys, Stand up!" and then she stood up, elder siblings followed.
When she was holding her brother, She licked her hand and matted down his hair.. that was an aww moment.
I really wanted to save that little baby from his evil mother.
Sarah has proclaimed that she is an advocate for special needs babies and shows it by bringing her own som and treates him like a football.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:19:55
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:19:55
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:20:31
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:20:31
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:23:18
livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:23:18
The Republican chant:
Ein Volt
Ein Reich
Ein Fuhrer
Or something like that since I don't know German.
Ein Volt
Ein Reich
Ein Fuhrer
Or something like that since I don't know German.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 15:24:45
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 15:24:45
Damnit.. Obama's gonna make me break my boycott of ABC's This Week - he's on the show this weekend.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:24:59
livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:24:59
Liberal Smurf posted this on the SMS Live Blog;
The RNC doesn’t beat dead horses. They beat homeless people, and small children. They might rape dead horses, but they don’t beat them.
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:27:48
starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:27:48
Tina Fey is hotter. Why? A ) she's got a hot scar. B ) She's FUNNY!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:28:16
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:28:16
They bring a knife to a gun fight? :scratchhead:
How many times have we been blown away with the bazooka that is propaganda
How many times have we been blown away with the bazooka that is propaganda
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:29:13
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:29:13
From Vanity Fair: This is the costs of the outfits that Laura and Cindy wore the first night of the convention:
Laura Bush
Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500
Stuart Weitzman heels: $325
Pearl stud earrings: $600–$1,500
Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325
Cindy McCain
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600
Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
My Gawd, That is more than the cost of most houses int he United states!!!!!!!!!!
Laura Bush
Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500
Stuart Weitzman heels: $325
Pearl stud earrings: $600–$1,500
Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325
Cindy McCain
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600
Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
My Gawd, That is more than the cost of most houses int he United states!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:31:39
please my house USED to be worth that much now I'm lucky if I can by payless shoes
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:31:39
Quote by Raine:
From Vanity Fair: This is the costs of the outfits that Laura and Cindy wore the first night of the convention:
Laura Bush
Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500
Stuart Weitzman heels: $325
Pearl stud earrings: $600–$1,500
Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325
Cindy McCain
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600
Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
My Gawd, That is more than the cost of most houses int he United states!!!!!!!!!!
please my house USED to be worth that much now I'm lucky if I can by payless shoes
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:31:55
I'd be curious to have the Michelle Obama, Jill Biden comparison.
starling310 on 09/04/2008 15:31:55
Quote by Raine:
From Vanity Fair: This is the costs of the outfits that Laura and Cindy wore the first night of the convention:
Laura Bush
Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500
Stuart Weitzman heels: $325
Pearl stud earrings: $600–$1,500
Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325
Cindy McCain
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600
Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
My Gawd, That is more than the cost of most houses int he United states!!!!!!!!!!
I'd be curious to have the Michelle Obama, Jill Biden comparison.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:33:48
Republicans believe in a scorched earth policy.
livingonli on 09/04/2008 15:33:48
Quote by wickedpam:
They bring a knife to a gun fight? :scratchhead:
How many times have we been blown away with the bazooka that is propaganda
Republicans believe in a scorched earth policy.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:38:18
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:38:18
Notice anything interesting?
First.... no american Flag ... Second, Lest someone tell you otherwise... that is an israeli Pin.
This is the Blue Star Flag :
First.... no american Flag ... Second, Lest someone tell you otherwise... that is an israeli Pin.
This is the Blue Star Flag :
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:39:09
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:39:09
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 15:40:12
TriSec on 09/04/2008 15:40:12
US Invades Pakistan
(OK, it's over the top....but crossing the border without permission is an invasion, no?)
(OK, it's over the top....but crossing the border without permission is an invasion, no?)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:41:08
I don't understand why she is wearing the flag of another nation?
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:41:08
Quote by Raine:
Notice anything interesting?
First.... no american Flag ... Second, Lest someone tell you otherwise... that is an israeli Pin.
This is the Blue Star Flag :
I don't understand why she is wearing the flag of another nation?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:41:10
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:41:10
They've really got to do something about that liveblog. That's just plain insane.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:41:36
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:41:36
her husband is part of the oil industry
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:43:03
Makes about as much sense as having Joe LIEberman speak at the convention, if you catch my drift.
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 15:43:03
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Notice anything interesting?
First.... no american Flag ... Second, Lest someone tell you otherwise... that is an israeli Pin.
This is the Blue Star Flag :
I don't understand why she is wearing the flag of another nation?
Makes about as much sense as having Joe LIEberman speak at the convention, if you catch my drift.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:45:08
I don't understand either, but it REALLY bothers me. Why the Israeli flag?
Especially considering her church had a speaker that believes that all Jews must be converted to Cristianity or face hell.
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:45:08
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't understand why she is wearing the flag of another nation?
Especially considering her church had a speaker that believes that all Jews must be converted to Cristianity or face hell.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:45:10
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:45:10
Sebaluious is would have been a better choice
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:45:48
MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:45:48
sorry-Jew girl here. that doesn't really look like an Israeli flag to me.
However, if it is and she is another one of those born-again supporters of Israel so that the messiah can come again, I am.going.to.esplode
However, if it is and she is another one of those born-again supporters of Israel so that the messiah can come again, I am.going.to.esplode
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:47:21
very strict believers say that any who has not accepted Jesus as their saivour will go to hell including Jewish people who are the "chosen" people. I've mentioned my Aunt right. But even she doesn't wear the flag of another nation.
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:47:21
Quote by Raine:I don't understand either, but it REALLY bothers me. Why the Israeli flag?Quote by wickedpam:
I don't understand why she is wearing the flag of another nation?
Especially considering her church had a speaker that believes that all Jews must be converted to Cristianity or face hell.
very strict believers say that any who has not accepted Jesus as their saivour will go to hell including Jewish people who are the "chosen" people. I've mentioned my Aunt right. But even she doesn't wear the flag of another nation.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:47:48
I love you MNRN!
But here is the Kos story (among others abotu this that I have been reading)
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:47:48
Quote by MNRN:
sorry-Jew girl here. that doesn't really look like an Israeli flag to me.
However, if it is and she is another one of those born-again supporters of Israel so that the messiah can come again, I am.going.to.esplode
I love you MNRN!
But here is the Kos story (among others abotu this that I have been reading)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:48:26
I was thinking that didn't look like a tree in the center it looked like a star. Is there a better picture.
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:48:26
Quote by MNRN:
sorry-Jew girl here. that doesn't really look like an Israeli flag to me.
However, if it is and she is another one of those born-again supporters of Israel so that the messiah can come again, I am.going.to.esplode
I was thinking that didn't look like a tree in the center it looked like a star. Is there a better picture.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:50:01
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:50:01
Oh, and When I said *lest someone sayotherwise* I meant to mention, that some people in freeper land are trying to say that is a blue Star mothers pin.
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 15:50:51
TriSec on 09/04/2008 15:50:51
Say, the Dow is down 236 points at this hour...is that a ringing endorsement, or what?
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 15:56:40
TriSec on 09/04/2008 15:56:40
Just gone through Flag Identifier....
There's no flag with a single star on a white background.
It doesn't appear to be Israeli; it's missing the blue bars at top and bottom.
There's no flag with a single star on a white background.
It doesn't appear to be Israeli; it's missing the blue bars at top and bottom.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:56:55
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:56:55
Different pic same pin
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:57:14
MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:57:14
:having read much of Kos:
esploding,esploding, esploding.
esploding,esploding, esploding.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:59:03
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 15:59:03
what's that Alaska first group?
Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 15:59:19
Random on 09/04/2008 15:59:19
Anyone here still talking to random?
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 15:59:19
That looks different from the pin === Thanks for that one Mala.
And I am sorry for the spolsion MNRN.
Raine on 09/04/2008 15:59:19
Quote by wickedpam:
Different pic same pin
That looks different from the pin === Thanks for that one Mala.
And I am sorry for the spolsion MNRN.
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:59:45
MNRN on 09/04/2008 15:59:45
so she is wearing a sort of blue star mom flag, the wrong way?
Dunno, I am sooo feeling those Alaska shaped earrings tho, how bout you guys?
Dunno, I am sooo feeling those Alaska shaped earrings tho, how bout you guys?
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 16:00:04
livingonli on 09/04/2008 16:00:04
What about the Alaskan flag?
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 16:00:23
Raine on 09/04/2008 16:00:23
Ok, it is pool time. Be back later guys!
:hug:
:hug:
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 16:00:59
MNRN on 09/04/2008 16:00:59
Hello Random, was that you who posted that video earlier that just kicked ASS?!
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 16:01:49
Not even close. The Alaskan flag is the big dipper on a blue background.
Raine on 09/04/2008 16:01:49
Quote by livingonli:
What about the Alaskan flag?
Not even close. The Alaskan flag is the big dipper on a blue background.
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 16:02:51
MNRN on 09/04/2008 16:02:51
okay, lovies, I gotta do a little homework here on the puter.....and hopefully not go to work!
:hug: to all of yous!
:hug: to all of yous!
Comment by Random on 09/04/2008 16:05:12
Hm....Yeah, if i think i know what your talking about.
Random on 09/04/2008 16:05:12
Quote by MNRN:
Hello Random, was that you who posted that video earlier that just kicked ASS?!
Hm....Yeah, if i think i know what your talking about.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 16:06:25
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 16:06:25
That looks like an Army pin actually..
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:06:47
No, that is not an Israeli flag, that is Blue Star Mothers pin. I have a friend who is a double Blue Star mother. My fraternal grandma was a double blue mom too.
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:06:47
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Different pic same pin
That looks different from the pin === Thanks for that one Mala.
And I am sorry for the spolsion MNRN.
No, that is not an Israeli flag, that is Blue Star Mothers pin. I have a friend who is a double Blue Star mother. My fraternal grandma was a double blue mom too.
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 16:11:05
livingonli on 09/04/2008 16:11:05
While checking the Wiki, I discovered that the Alaskan Independence Party is tied with the far -right Constitution Party.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:12:28
: scans blog : Oh that scar, soooo sexy! Funny is always hot!
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:12:28
Quote by starling310:
Tina Fey is hotter. Why? A ) she's got a hot scar. B ) She's FUNNY!!!!
: scans blog : Oh that scar, soooo sexy! Funny is always hot!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:15:37
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:15:37
Okay something about the Blue Star Mothers. It is for the mothers who have children serving in the military. I don't know why Mr Governor is wearing one. Unless he is secretly a woman.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:19:42
: continues scaning : Oh mah Gawd! I have been thinking the same thing.
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:19:42
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get the attraction to Levi?
Yeah, he's got "date rape" written all over him.
: continues scaning : Oh mah Gawd! I have been thinking the same thing.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:41:12
Stephanie on the Youtubes.
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 16:41:12
Stephanie on the Youtubes.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 16:44:50
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 16:44:50
I do think she looks that good on tv, she looks thick to me, kinda dowdy
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 16:55:59
Swerves into nitpicking ditch....
The head of our tenant's association had a son overseas in Iraq (2x). She only displayed the flag when he was deployed....is it proper to display and/or wear while your service member is in training or otherwise in the US?
TriSec on 09/04/2008 16:55:59
Quote by Mondobubba:
Okay something about the Blue Star Mothers. It is for the mothers who have children serving in the military. I don't know why Mr Governor is wearing one. Unless he is secretly a woman.
Swerves into nitpicking ditch....
The head of our tenant's association had a son overseas in Iraq (2x). She only displayed the flag when he was deployed....is it proper to display and/or wear while your service member is in training or otherwise in the US?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 16:57:46
I get the impress that Palin and her husband are only happy when they can wear or display symbols that say "look at me I'm special"
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 16:57:46
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Okay something about the Blue Star Mothers. It is for the mothers who have children serving in the military. I don't know why Mr Governor is wearing one. Unless he is secretly a woman.
Swerves into nitpicking ditch....
The head of our tenant's association had a son overseas in Iraq (2x). She only displayed the flag when he was deployed....is it proper to display and/or wear while your service member is in training or otherwise in the US?
I get the impress that Palin and her husband are only happy when they can wear or display symbols that say "look at me I'm special"
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 17:00:04
TriSec on 09/04/2008 17:00:04
Oh, and God is going to strike me down over what I was thinking last night when she was talking about her son about to be deployed.
I'll not repeat it here; no need to antagonize any right lurkers or CIA operatives secretly casing out our shop...
I'll not repeat it here; no need to antagonize any right lurkers or CIA operatives secretly casing out our shop...
Comment by MNRN on 09/04/2008 17:29:47
MNRN on 09/04/2008 17:29:47
don't worry Tri. Many of us are standing in the general Ahhhrea....
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 17:40:46
That is my impression as well. You display the pin/flag after deployment.
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 17:40:46
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Okay something about the Blue Star Mothers. It is for the mothers who have children serving in the military. I don't know why Mr Governor is wearing one. Unless he is secretly a woman.
Swerves into nitpicking ditch....
The head of our tenant's association had a son overseas in Iraq (2x). She only displayed the flag when he was deployed....is it proper to display and/or wear while your service member is in training or otherwise in the US?
That is my impression as well. You display the pin/flag after deployment.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 18:01:56
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 18:01:56
Back from the midday meeting.. our local wingnut talk station sent us an email proposing some cross advertising, we turned em down! 
And here's another fantastic convert diary.. I especially loved the 'final straw' point in here - it's pretty telling about how people are rejecting the empty suits that Republicans are putting forward this year.
And here's another fantastic convert diary.. I especially loved the 'final straw' point in here - it's pretty telling about how people are rejecting the empty suits that Republicans are putting forward this year.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 18:12:37
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 18:12:37
Okay.. I'm goin across the street to get me a sammich!
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 18:13:33
BAck from the massage at the pool. Mondo I was thinking the same thing (on both coutns as well.)
Raine on 09/04/2008 18:13:33
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Okay something about the Blue Star Mothers. It is for the mothers who have children serving in the military. I don't know why Mr Governor is wearing one. Unless he is secretly a woman.
Swerves into nitpicking ditch....
The head of our tenant's association had a son overseas in Iraq (2x). She only displayed the flag when he was deployed....is it proper to display and/or wear while your service member is in training or otherwise in the US?
That is my impression as well. You display the pin/flag after deployment.
BAck from the massage at the pool. Mondo I was thinking the same thing (on both coutns as well.)
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 18:15:11
Raine on 09/04/2008 18:15:11
BTW, our Massuese it turns out is a life long republican who is going to volunteer for the Barack Obama campain!
HE is what I would call a real republican, after talking to him... his disgust at the past 8 years is amazing. He wants Bush, Cheny rumsfeld et all prosecuted for war crimes.
And he gave an AWESOME massage!
HE is what I would call a real republican, after talking to him... his disgust at the past 8 years is amazing. He wants Bush, Cheny rumsfeld et all prosecuted for war crimes.
And he gave an AWESOME massage!
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 18:17:31
Yes, the Blue star Pin is supposed to be horizontal form everything I have seen on the intertubes research. That was why I showed it earlier.
Raine on 09/04/2008 18:17:31
Quote by MNRN:
so she is wearing a sort of blue star mom flag, the wrong way?
Dunno, I am sooo feeling those Alaska shaped earrings tho, how bout you guys?
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 18:21:21
TriSec on 09/04/2008 18:21:21
Geez, I wish I knew real republicans that I could talk too....
The bane of marrying a Cuban, I know.
My inlaws are so rabid, our trump card had no effect whatsoever on them.
Their own grandson, who is a mere 7 years old...in ten years we'll still have 90 years to go in "McCain's War", and since we don't have any money for college, guess where he's going?
And they're OK with that.
The bane of marrying a Cuban, I know.
My inlaws are so rabid, our trump card had no effect whatsoever on them.
Their own grandson, who is a mere 7 years old...in ten years we'll still have 90 years to go in "McCain's War", and since we don't have any money for college, guess where he's going?
And they're OK with that.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 18:22:08
I've been in recent communication with one of my oldest friends (Thanks Facebook) who too is a registered Republican who is appalled by the last eight years. He is voting for Obama as well.
I know nothing about his massage abilities. But he is great blacksmith!
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 18:22:08
Quote by Raine:
BTW, our Massuese it turns out is a life long republican who is going to volunteer for the Barack Obama campain!
HE is what I would call a real republican, after talking to him... his disgust at the past 8 years is amazing. He wants Bush, Cheny rumsfeld et all prosecuted for war crimes.
And he gave an AWESOME massage!
I've been in recent communication with one of my oldest friends (Thanks Facebook) who too is a registered Republican who is appalled by the last eight years. He is voting for Obama as well.
I know nothing about his massage abilities. But he is great blacksmith!
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 18:27:06
Geebus Tri! I thought those were some sort of metalic Mouse Ears at first!
Mondobubba on 09/04/2008 18:27:06
Quote by TriSec:
Geez, I wish I knew real republicans that I could talk too....
The bane of marrying a Cuban, I know.
My inlaws are so rabid, our trump card had no effect whatsoever on them.
Their own grandson, who is a mere 7 years old...in ten years we'll still have 90 years to go in "McCain's War", and since we don't have any money for college, guess where he's going?
And they're OK with that.
Geebus Tri! I thought those were some sort of metalic Mouse Ears at first!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2008 18:35:24
damn! I almost spit my pudding all over them screen! :rofl:
wickedpam on 09/04/2008 18:35:24
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Geez, I wish I knew real republicans that I could talk too....
The bane of marrying a Cuban, I know.
My inlaws are so rabid, our trump card had no effect whatsoever on them.
Their own grandson, who is a mere 7 years old...in ten years we'll still have 90 years to go in "McCain's War", and since we don't have any money for college, guess where he's going?
And they're OK with that.
Geebus Tri! I thought those were some sort of metalic Mouse Ears at first!
damn! I almost spit my pudding all over them screen! :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 09/04/2008 19:10:26
starling310 on 09/04/2008 19:10:26
Have we talked about this? Woh. Nelly.
Rove Appointee Says No to arresting Obama Assassination Plotters?
Rove Appointee Says No to arresting Obama Assassination Plotters?
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 19:17:44
....
I haven't quoted Malloy in a while, but...
HAVE I MENTIONED YET TODAY HOW MUCH I HATE THESE PEOPLE?!?!!?!?
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 19:17:44
Quote by starling310:
Have we talked about this? Woh. Nelly.
Rove Appointee Says No to arresting Obama Assassination Plotters?
....
I haven't quoted Malloy in a while, but...
HAVE I MENTIONED YET TODAY HOW MUCH I HATE THESE PEOPLE?!?!!?!?
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 19:23:21
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 19:23:21
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 19:27:38
livingonli on 09/04/2008 19:27:38
I'm listening to Randi rip through last night's speeches. If I was watching the convention, I probably would have thrown something and smashed my HDTV set and that I wouldn't want to happen.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 20:14:05
Which is why I do NOT watch this stuff in HD. If I throw the 12" set not as many bad things will happen.
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 20:14:05
Quote by livingonli:
I'm listening to Randi rip through last night's speeches. If I was watching the convention, I probably would have thrown something and smashed my HDTV set and that I wouldn't want to happen.
Which is why I do NOT watch this stuff in HD. If I throw the 12" set not as many bad things will happen.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2008 20:19:40
Scoopster on 09/04/2008 20:19:40
I'm heading home for the evening, but I'll leave you with these words:
You wouldn't know that this is such a critical election by watching the convention last night. I know we had our week. And the Republicans deserve theirs. But it's been amazing for me to watch over the last two nights. If you sit there, and you watch it. You're hearing a lot about John McCain, and he's got a compelling biography as a P.O.W.
You're hearing an awful lot about me. Much of which is not true.
What you're not hearing is a lot about you.
You haven't heard one word about how they're going to make the health system work - so that when a union is negotiating with a company it's not all just a discussion about higher premiums and you guys can actually start talking about higher wages and benefits.
You haven't heard one word about how we're gonna create more apprenticeship programs like the ones we have here. Or give other people a chance to train in new trades.
You haven't heard one word about getting serious about green and alternative energy. The kind of work that is resulting in all the expansion and hiring here.
You haven't heard one word about how we're going to strengthen unions so that working people get a decent stake.
You haven't heard one word about how we're going to improve math and science education so that we can hire more engineers to create more products in green technology.
You haven't heard one word about how we're going to deal with any aspect of the economy that is affecting you and your pocket day to day.
Haven't heard one word about it. Literally. Two nights. They have not said a word about it. They have not said a word about it. They've had a lot to say about me. But they haven't had anything to say about you.
And the thing that I'm insisting on in this election is that we can't keep playing the same political games we always play.
Sen. Barack Obama, York PA, September 4, 2008
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 20:24:39
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 20:24:39
Noticed in the purchaser's cube are 3 new widescreen LCD monitors. One of them should be mine, I guess I'll find out in the morning.
Comment by TriSec on 09/04/2008 20:31:02
TriSec on 09/04/2008 20:31:02
: applies four million volts to self :
VOOOM -->
VOOOM -->
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 21:46:19
Jeebus.
Un believable.
Raine on 09/04/2008 21:46:19
Quote by starling310:
Have we talked about this? Woh. Nelly.
Rove Appointee Says No to arresting Obama Assassination Plotters?
Jeebus.
Un believable.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 21:48:32
That so pissed me off last night. All I can say is Faith based initiatives... Isn't that COMMUNITY ORGANIZING???
I despise these people.
Raine on 09/04/2008 21:48:32
That so pissed me off last night. All I can say is Faith based initiatives... Isn't that COMMUNITY ORGANIZING???
I despise these people.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 21:53:24
Raine on 09/04/2008 21:53:24
Now that is what I am talking about:
Sen. Barack Obama ditched his normal languid cool today, punching back at Gov. Sarah Palin as he spoke with reporters in York, Pa, hotly defending his work as a community organizer. He said he assumes Palin "wants to be treated same way guys want to be treated, which means their records are under scrutinty. I've been through this for 19 months. She's been through it, what four days?"
Obama's hackles were clearly raised by Palin's dismissal of his community organizing --a response to his earlier dismissal of her record as a small-town mayor. "Why would that kind of work be ridiculed?" Obama said. "Who are they fighting for?" The idea that community organizing is not relevant to the presidency, he said, just shows why Republicans "are out of touch and don't get it."[/quote
Bite me sarah Palin.
Comment by leorising on 09/04/2008 22:09:04
Yes! Squeeeee! *parties*
C'mon, Obama Campaign! Hit 'em hard, hit 'em strong, hit 'em NOW!
This:
NOT This:
^_^
leorising on 09/04/2008 22:09:04
Quote by Raine:
Westmorland ® Georgia calls Obama Uppity.
Yes! Squeeeee! *parties*
C'mon, Obama Campaign! Hit 'em hard, hit 'em strong, hit 'em NOW!
This:
NOT This:
^_^
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 22:12:56
trojanrabbit on 09/04/2008 22:12:56
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 22:17:30
Hey Leo....
Uppity... I was waiting for it to finally happen... and it did. I have decided I despise the republicans from the state of Georgia more than any other state.
Raine on 09/04/2008 22:17:30
Quote by leorising:Quote by Raine:
Westmorland ® Georgia calls Obama Uppity.
Yes! Squeeeee! *parties*
C'mon, Obama Campaign! Hit 'em hard, hit 'em strong, hit 'em NOW!
This:
NOT This:
^_^
Hey Leo....
Uppity... I was waiting for it to finally happen... and it did. I have decided I despise the republicans from the state of Georgia more than any other state.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 22:19:06
Was he crying because he got caught?
Raine on 09/04/2008 22:19:06
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Abramoff only gets 4 years.
Probably to have his sentence commuted by Chimpy.
Was he crying because he got caught?
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 22:21:26
Raine on 09/04/2008 22:21:26
Let me make this clear... the ONLY thing we learned about Sarah Palin last night is that she reads a really good (PREPARED by the McCain Campaign)Speach.
And make no mistake, that speach was prepared by and large BEFORE she was nominated.
I could go back and find the link ... but basically the mcCain campaign said they had a very MAsculin speach, and with Sarah on the ticket, they wanted to make it more feminine.
And make no mistake, that speach was prepared by and large BEFORE she was nominated.
I could go back and find the link ... but basically the mcCain campaign said they had a very MAsculin speach, and with Sarah on the ticket, they wanted to make it more feminine.
Comment by leorising on 09/04/2008 22:22:44
I just called the Colorado U.S. Attorney's Office, their main office, at (303)454-0100. I told the receptionist I wasn't from a movement or anything, I was just a citizen, but that I was calling because I was baffled and very concerned about Attorney Eid (prn. Ah-Eed) not pressing charges against the men who had threatened Barack Obama.
The receptionist pondered a moment, then said, "Let me transfer you, okay?" I said, "Sure," of course, and I got a recording. The voicemail said it was for Melba DuPres (sp?), and to leave a msg. etc. I left my name & phone #, along with the same basic message.
Need I encourage you all to do the same? Report back, if you do!
*chuckles naughtily*
^_^
leorising on 09/04/2008 22:22:44
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
Have we talked about this? Woh. Nelly.
Rove Appointee Says No to arresting Obama Assassination Plotters?
Jeebus.
Un believable.
I just called the Colorado U.S. Attorney's Office, their main office, at (303)454-0100. I told the receptionist I wasn't from a movement or anything, I was just a citizen, but that I was calling because I was baffled and very concerned about Attorney Eid (prn. Ah-Eed) not pressing charges against the men who had threatened Barack Obama.
The receptionist pondered a moment, then said, "Let me transfer you, okay?" I said, "Sure," of course, and I got a recording. The voicemail said it was for Melba DuPres (sp?), and to leave a msg. etc. I left my name & phone #, along with the same basic message.
Need I encourage you all to do the same? Report back, if you do!
*chuckles naughtily*
^_^
Comment by leorising on 09/04/2008 22:23:33
leorising on 09/04/2008 22:23:33
Oops, here's a link to the Colorado U.S. Attorney's Office, where I got the phone #:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/co/contact_info/contact_info/index.html
^_^
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/co/contact_info/contact_info/index.html
^_^
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 22:27:46
I have to say this... as much as despise Jackamoff... I still feel that those public officials that allowed themselves to be influenced are FAR more responsible.
They were the people who should have said no... and Johnny Mac is one of them in my opinion.
Raine on 09/04/2008 22:27:46
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Abramoff only gets 4 years.
Probably to have his sentence commuted by Chimpy.
They were the people who should have said no... and Johnny Mac is one of them in my opinion.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 22:29:31
Going to do so now! With the correct number you gave us!
Raine on 09/04/2008 22:29:31
Quote by leorising:Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
Have we talked about this? Woh. Nelly.
Rove Appointee Says No to arresting Obama Assassination Plotters?
Jeebus.
Un believable.
I just called the Colorado U.S. Attorney's Office, their main office, at (303)454-0100. I told the receptionist I wasn't from a movement or anything, I was just a citizen, but that I was calling because I was baffled and very concerned about Attorney Eid (prn. Ah-Eed) not pressing charges against the men who had threatened Barack Obama.
The receptionist pondered a moment, then said, "Let me transfer you, okay?" I said, "Sure," of course, and I got a recording. The voicemail said it was for Melba DuPres (sp?), and to leave a msg. etc. I left my name & phone #, along with the same basic message.
Need I encourage you all to do the same? Report back, if you do!
*chuckles naughtily*
^_^
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 22:35:32
Raine on 09/04/2008 22:35:32
Leo, Done. Left a message to the same woman... asked why, gave my name and and number, asked why, and if they could provide any more information. I too said that I am just a citizen from Georgia, not affiliated with any group, but I was concerned that this was not facing charges since this is a presidential candidate of the United States of America.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 22:49:08
Raine on 09/04/2008 22:49:08
Comment by leorising on 09/04/2008 23:00:18
Wheee!
I just mailed the same basic note out to some good friends. I titled it, "Phone Mob!"
I just want a metric crapload of people to call and say, "Not in my United States!"
This is fun!
leorising on 09/04/2008 23:00:18
Quote by Raine:
Leo, Done. Left a message to the same woman... asked why, gave my name and and number, asked why, and if they could provide any more information. I too said that I am just a citizen from Georgia, not affiliated with any group, but I was concerned that this was not facing charges since this is a presidential candidate of the United States of America.
Wheee! I just mailed the same basic note out to some good friends. I titled it, "Phone Mob!"
I just want a metric crapload of people to call and say, "Not in my United States!"
This is fun!
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 23:02:02
Raine on 09/04/2008 23:02:02
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 23:05:14
It's a great idea. I sent it out to the people I could. Damn... where is scoop? we need him to get a kos Diary up!
Raine on 09/04/2008 23:05:14
Quote by leorising:Quote by Raine:
Leo, Done. Left a message to the same woman... asked why, gave my name and and number, asked why, and if they could provide any more information. I too said that I am just a citizen from Georgia, not affiliated with any group, but I was concerned that this was not facing charges since this is a presidential candidate of the United States of America.
I just mailed the same basic note out to some good friends. I titled it, "Phone Mob!"
I just want a metric crapload of people to call and say, "Not in my United States!"
This is fun!
It's a great idea. I sent it out to the people I could. Damn... where is scoop? we need him to get a kos Diary up!
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2008 23:05:58
Raine on 09/04/2008 23:05:58
I am still blogging from our balcony, BTW... *sigh*
Comment by livingonli on 09/04/2008 23:53:29
livingonli on 09/04/2008 23:53:29
Do you have the Giant game on, Raine? I'm at work so I can't catch the game on the Teevee.
Comment by livingonli on 09/05/2008 00:00:49
livingonli on 09/05/2008 00:00:49
Yankees are also playing the Rays tonight so if you have FSN Florida on the tv you can also see that game.
Comment by Raine on 09/05/2008 00:43:43
Raine on 09/05/2008 00:43:43
In today's LA Times, stalwart feminist Gloria Steinem defines the boundaries of what a feminsit makes.... And yes, we have boundries...
Palin reminds me of Phyllis Schlafly [WIKI=Phyllis_Schlafly]See her Wiki entry... [/WIKI]when she opposed the ERA.
From the LA Times:
Here's the good news: Women have become so politically powerful that even the anti-feminist right wing -- the folks with a headlock on the Republican Party -- are trying to appease the gender gap with a first-ever female vice president. We owe this to women -- and to many men too -- who have picketed, gone on hunger strikes or confronted violence at the polls so women can vote. We owe it to Shirley Chisholm, who first took the "white-male-only" sign off the White House, and to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who hung in there through ridicule and misogyny to win 18 million votes.
But here is even better news: It won't work. This isn't the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It's about making life more fair for women everywhere. It's not about a piece of the existing pie; there are too many of us for that. It's about baking a new pie.
Selecting Sarah Palin, who was touted all summer by Rush Limbaugh, is no way to attract most women, including die-hard Clinton supporters. Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton. Her down-home, divisive and deceptive speech did nothing to cosmeticize a Republican convention that has more than twice as many male delegates as female, a presidential candidate who is owned and operated by the right wing and a platform that opposes pretty much everything Clinton's candidacy stood for -- and that Barack Obama's still does. To vote in protest for McCain/Palin would be like saying, "Somebody stole my shoes, so I'll amputate my legs."....
So let's be clear: The culprit is John McCain. He may have chosen Palin out of change-envy, or a belief that women can't tell the difference between form and content, but the main motive was to please right-wing ideologues; the same ones who nixed anyone who is now or ever has been a supporter of reproductive freedom. If that were not the case, McCain could have chosen a woman who knows what a vice president does and who has thought about Iraq; someone like Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine. McCain could have taken a baby step away from right-wing patriarchs who determine his actions, right down to opposing the Violence Against Women Act.
Palin's value to those patriarchs is clear: She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women's wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves "abstinence-only" programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers' millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn't spend enough money to fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger.
======================================================
Read more at the link.
Sarah is NOT a feminist. she does not represent Women's equality. Not by a long shot.
Palin reminds me of Phyllis Schlafly [WIKI=Phyllis_Schlafly]See her Wiki entry... [/WIKI]when she opposed the ERA.
From the LA Times:
Here's the good news: Women have become so politically powerful that even the anti-feminist right wing -- the folks with a headlock on the Republican Party -- are trying to appease the gender gap with a first-ever female vice president. We owe this to women -- and to many men too -- who have picketed, gone on hunger strikes or confronted violence at the polls so women can vote. We owe it to Shirley Chisholm, who first took the "white-male-only" sign off the White House, and to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who hung in there through ridicule and misogyny to win 18 million votes.
But here is even better news: It won't work. This isn't the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It's about making life more fair for women everywhere. It's not about a piece of the existing pie; there are too many of us for that. It's about baking a new pie.
Selecting Sarah Palin, who was touted all summer by Rush Limbaugh, is no way to attract most women, including die-hard Clinton supporters. Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton. Her down-home, divisive and deceptive speech did nothing to cosmeticize a Republican convention that has more than twice as many male delegates as female, a presidential candidate who is owned and operated by the right wing and a platform that opposes pretty much everything Clinton's candidacy stood for -- and that Barack Obama's still does. To vote in protest for McCain/Palin would be like saying, "Somebody stole my shoes, so I'll amputate my legs."....
So let's be clear: The culprit is John McCain. He may have chosen Palin out of change-envy, or a belief that women can't tell the difference between form and content, but the main motive was to please right-wing ideologues; the same ones who nixed anyone who is now or ever has been a supporter of reproductive freedom. If that were not the case, McCain could have chosen a woman who knows what a vice president does and who has thought about Iraq; someone like Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine. McCain could have taken a baby step away from right-wing patriarchs who determine his actions, right down to opposing the Violence Against Women Act.
Palin's value to those patriarchs is clear: She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women's wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves "abstinence-only" programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers' millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn't spend enough money to fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger.
======================================================
Read more at the link.
Sarah is NOT a feminist. she does not represent Women's equality. Not by a long shot.
Comment by Raine on 09/05/2008 00:44:51
Just turned it on... 16 7 Giants!
Raine on 09/05/2008 00:44:51
Quote by livingonli:
Do you have the Giant game on, Raine? I'm at work so I can't catch the game on the Teevee.
Just turned it on... 16 7 Giants!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:46:46
Nothing wrong with making the punishment for ALL involved so severe and terrible that NO ONE will think of doing it again. One can only hope that Jackoff spilled his guts, but I doubt it.
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:46:46
Quote by Raine:I have to say this... as much as despise Jackamoff... I still feel that those public officials that allowed themselves to be influenced are FAR more responsible.Quote by trojanrabbit:
Abramoff only gets 4 years.
Probably to have his sentence commuted by Chimpy.
They were the people who should have said no... and Johnny Mac is one of them in my opinion.
Nothing wrong with making the punishment for ALL involved so severe and terrible that NO ONE will think of doing it again. One can only hope that Jackoff spilled his guts, but I doubt it.
Comment by Raine on 09/05/2008 00:47:44
Pfff... the yankees are done... and I have the Gulf calling me, the pool the Giants ... I am not going to worry about the yanks.
Raine on 09/05/2008 00:47:44
Quote by livingonli:
Yankees are also playing the Rays tonight so if you have FSN Florida on the tv you can also see that game.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:49:58
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:49:58
Shouldn't bringing a child of ANY age to this convention be considered child abuse?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:50:24
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:50:24
Give it up Gibbs, this crowd is DEAD!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:51:25
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 00:51:25
Is this jackhole going to say that God wants McCain to win?
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 01:00:54
TriSec on 09/05/2008 01:00:54
Evening, folks!
Questions for the masses....
Who the hell was this Gibbs guy, and was that a speech, or a sermon?
Should I risk alcohol poisoning this evening and do vodka shots, or just sip at a bit of brandy?
Is anyone else marveling at the fact that for the second night in a row, I want the Yankees to win?
Football....bah. Wake me up if the Failtriots are relevant this year.
Celtics back to camp in about a month!
(cue the Mission:Impossible theme for Da Broons...)
Questions for the masses....
Who the hell was this Gibbs guy, and was that a speech, or a sermon?
Should I risk alcohol poisoning this evening and do vodka shots, or just sip at a bit of brandy?
Is anyone else marveling at the fact that for the second night in a row, I want the Yankees to win?
Football....bah. Wake me up if the Failtriots are relevant this year.
Celtics back to camp in about a month!
(cue the Mission:Impossible theme for Da Broons...)
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:09:47
Gibbs - famous coach (Redskins) turned NASCAR team owner then
coach again, so it was a speech, sermon and dessert topping.
Am seriously considering not watching, for the moment the TV over my PC with CSPAN on is muted. Am too lazy to see if MSNBC is being recorded tonight in the living room, but Mama is.
Honestly don't care about the Patriots this year. Am in a fantasy football league with the family so that's the only reason I care about football in general. Don't care about the Sox either. Have lost interest in many things over the last year.
Maybe I'll head to the living room for a sec, just to bother the cats.. ;)
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:09:47
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks!
Questions for the masses....
Who the hell was this Gibbs guy, and was that a speech, or a sermon?
Should I risk alcohol poisoning this evening and do vodka shots, or just sip at a bit of brandy?
Is anyone else marveling at the fact that for the second night in a row, I want the Yankees to win?
Football....bah. Wake me up if the Failtriots are relevant this year.
Celtics back to camp in about a month!
(cue the Mission:Impossible theme for Da Broons...)
Gibbs - famous coach (Redskins) turned NASCAR team owner then
coach again, so it was a speech, sermon and dessert topping.
Am seriously considering not watching, for the moment the TV over my PC with CSPAN on is muted. Am too lazy to see if MSNBC is being recorded tonight in the living room, but Mama is.
Honestly don't care about the Patriots this year. Am in a fantasy football league with the family so that's the only reason I care about football in general. Don't care about the Sox either. Have lost interest in many things over the last year.
Maybe I'll head to the living room for a sec, just to bother the cats.. ;)
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:10:41
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:10:41
Watching Lyndsey "butt-boy" Graham. He's mincing through a jingoistic bunch of pablum that doesn't really seem to be getting the crowd going.
What again does victory in Iraq mean?
What again does victory in Iraq mean?
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:12:00
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:12:00
And now they're playing a puff piece on Palin.
:puke:
:puke:
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:12:12
The crowd shot their load last night.
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:12:12
Quote by BobR:
Watching Lyndsey "butt-boy" Graham. He's mincing through a jingoistic bunch of pablum that doesn't really seem to be getting the crowd going.
What again does victory in Iraq mean?
The crowd shot their load last night.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:15:35
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:15:35
This whole convention is a train wreck. They should have played this on the 1st or 2nd days.
And if they use the word "maverick" to describe her any more times, I may have to throw something at the TV.
I am wondering if anyone anywhere has actually counted...
And if they use the word "maverick" to describe her any more times, I may have to throw something at the TV.
I am wondering if anyone anywhere has actually counted...
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:16:14
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:16:14
And now we get Tom Ridge. :rolleyes2:
Comment by livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:19:09
I don't think the hotel would appreciate that just like I wouldn't want to ruin my HDTV. The only good convention viewing it got was the last night of the Democratic Convention which was worth watching in HD.
livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:19:09
Quote by BobR:
This whole convention is a train wreck. They should have played this on the 1st or 2nd days.
And if they use the word "maverick" to describe her any more times, I may have to throw something at the TV.
I am wondering if anyone anywhere has actually counted...
I don't think the hotel would appreciate that just like I wouldn't want to ruin my HDTV. The only good convention viewing it got was the last night of the Democratic Convention which was worth watching in HD.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:22:00
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:22:00
OMFG!
They just showed a guy that was dressed to look like Abe Lincoln.
If he were alive today he'd say "what the hell have you douchebags done to my party??"
They just showed a guy that was dressed to look like Abe Lincoln.
If he were alive today he'd say "what the hell have you douchebags done to my party??"
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:24:54
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:24:54
Ridge's speech is full of empty platitudes about McCain without really saying anything substantive at all. He's just saying stuff that sounds good without really meaning anything.
It's awful!
It's awful!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:25:20
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:25:20
Ha ha, a commercial for CNN Convention coverage on MSNBC
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:27:15
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:27:15
Ridge had to actually instruct the crowd to say "That's John McCain" in the middle of the speech, assuming it seems that it wouldn't happen spontaneously....
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:28:09
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:28:09
Raine wants to report that she saw her 3rd person of color in the audience.
I wonder again how much they're being paid to sit there.
I wonder again how much they're being paid to sit there.
Comment by livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:30:28
Probably not enough. They should ask for more money.
livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:30:28
Quote by BobR:
Raine wants to report that she saw her 3rd person of color in the audience.
I wonder again how much they're being paid to sit there.
Probably not enough. They should ask for more money.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:34:11
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:34:11
And now a puff piece on Cindy Lou Hoo McCain. Oy...
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:35:12
Do they have to pay for their own barf bags?
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:35:12
Quote by livingonli:
Probably not enough. They should ask for more money.
Do they have to pay for their own barf bags?
Comment by livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:37:46
Free barf bags should be included.
livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:37:46
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Probably not enough. They should ask for more money.
Do they have to pay for their own barf bags?
Free barf bags should be included.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:39:37
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:39:37
Is it the style of the time to have your hair look like a wreck?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:40:06
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:40:06
LIZARD EYES!!!!!
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:40:47
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:40:47
Cindy Lou just said (about the folks in NoLa) that "It's not the nature of Americans to feel empathy towards these folks"
(somewhat paraphrased)
(somewhat paraphrased)
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:45:25
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 01:45:25
You might be able to trust John's hand at the wheel, but not on the rudder or throttle.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:47:24
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:47:24
I can't believe that the best they can say about Palin is that she's a moose-killing hockey mom. How the hell is THAT going to get people back into their houses and back to work?
:rage:
:rage:
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:49:33
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:49:33
That looks like a lot of diamonds on her "Navy/USMC" pin. I wonder how many soldiers' paychecks it would take to buy that?
Comment by livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:53:15
livingonli on 09/05/2008 01:53:15
Could they shoot They Live II at the RNC Convention?
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:56:31
Brains...
BRAAAAAAAIIINNNNNsssss....
Nope - none here.
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:56:31
Quote by livingonli:
Could they shoot They Live II at the RNC Convention?
Brains...
BRAAAAAAAIIINNNNNsssss....
Nope - none here.
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 01:56:32
TriSec on 09/05/2008 01:56:32
Is it normal for potential first ladies to give major campaign addresses?
I mean, really. I'm glad you love the guy; how is that going to help me put food on my family?
I mean, really. I'm glad you love the guy; how is that going to help me put food on my family?
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 01:58:23
TriSec on 09/05/2008 01:58:23
Republicans attend a campaign rally...
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 01:58:38
Michelle Obama did, but it was the 1st night, and it was to give people a chance to get to know her.
BobR on 09/05/2008 01:58:38
Quote by TriSec:
Is it normal for potential first ladies to give major campaign addresses?
I mean, really. I'm glad you love the guy; how is that going to help me put food on my family?
Michelle Obama did, but it was the 1st night, and it was to give people a chance to get to know her.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 02:01:20
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 02:01:20
Are any Hasbro attorneys out there, McCain's stealing the Real American Hero motto!
Comment by m-hadley on 09/05/2008 02:01:24
Barf Bags were privatized then outsourced to India - you are on you own as far as obtaining a barf bag :dance:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 09/05/2008 02:01:24
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
Probably not enough. They should ask for more money.
Do they have to pay for their own barf bags?
Free barf bags should be included.
Barf Bags were privatized then outsourced to India - you are on you own as far as obtaining a barf bag :dance:
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:03:03
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:03:03
Isn't the introductory speech supposed to be followed by the person being introduced?
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:03:31
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:03:31
I have a vintage Delta barf bag, as well as a safety card from the now-retired L1011. One of my more prized aviation collectibles...
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:04:15
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:04:15
Gee, they're playing all this 80s music at the convention tonight....
So is it OK to ask about the Keating Five? That happened in the 80s, dont ya know?
So is it OK to ask about the Keating Five? That happened in the 80s, dont ya know?
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:05:12
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:05:12
Raine is incredulous that they are playing "Stray Cat Strut" as a lead-in to McCain.
I reminded her that McCain used to date a stripper... :P
I reminded her that McCain used to date a stripper... :P
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:07:03
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:07:03
Hey - based on this video, I believe that McCain may have been a POW...
I hadn't heard that before.
I hadn't heard that before.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 02:08:47
Grampy forgot how to get to the convention center.
Well, I'm not staying up to watch this. I'm gonna surf the intertubes from bed. Haven't been to Crooks and Liars for a while.
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 02:08:47
Quote by BobR:
Isn't the introductory speech supposed to be followed by the person being introduced?
Grampy forgot how to get to the convention center.
Well, I'm not staying up to watch this. I'm gonna surf the intertubes from bed. Haven't been to Crooks and Liars for a while.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:09:58
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:09:58
McCain went back to VietNam to normalize relations with the gooks Vietnamese
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:11:41
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:11:41
What a load of horseshit
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:13:04
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:13:04
*snort*
RNC propaganda video.....didn't get it right. That was just an F-16 that did the aileron roll pass. The Navy doesn't fly those.
Ah....puff piece or not, I'm remembering some of the reasons why I liked him in 2000.
Alas, all in the past now.
RNC propaganda video.....didn't get it right. That was just an F-16 that did the aileron roll pass. The Navy doesn't fly those.
Ah....puff piece or not, I'm remembering some of the reasons why I liked him in 2000.
Alas, all in the past now.
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:14:41
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:14:41
That has got to be the lamest, most distracting podium and staging ever, BTW.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:15:41
:rofl: :clap:
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:15:41
Quote by TriSec:
RNC propaganda video.....didn't get it right. That was just an F-16 that did the aileron roll pass. The Navy doesn't fly those.
:rofl: :clap:
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:16:20
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:16:20
It looks like we're going to have another green screen opportunity!
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:16:30
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:16:30
What is Milfy McMooseburger wearing tonight? It looks like most of her right breast is "flapping in the breeze".
Comment by leorising on 09/05/2008 02:16:33
leorising on 09/05/2008 02:16:33
Truly, I can't bring myself to watch. Am I missing anything? 
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:18:35
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:18:35
C-SPAN showing the protester holding the "McCain votes against Vets" sign.
The crowd is trying to outshout the protester(s).
The crowd is trying to outshout the protester(s).
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:18:37
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:18:37
That's an IVAW heckler in there! 
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:19:33
Is anyone watching a network channel? I wonder if the Great Unwashed watching this saw that?
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:19:33
Quote by TriSec:
That's an IVAW heckler in there!
Is anyone watching a network channel? I wonder if the Great Unwashed watching this saw that?
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:20:33
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:20:33
Did you just see that delegate wearing a wire?
"Stand Up"
"Sit Down"
"Cheer loudly"
"Start USA Chanc"
"Stand Up"
"Sit Down"
"Cheer loudly"
"Start USA Chanc"
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:21:23
Incompetence, platitudes, and a complete dearth of anything related to the economy or other things that people really care about.
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:21:23
Quote by leorising:
Truly, I can't bring myself to watch. Am I missing anything?
Incompetence, platitudes, and a complete dearth of anything related to the economy or other things that people really care about.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:24:52
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:24:52
Code Pink representin'!!
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:26:41
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:26:41
McCain said he's going to stand on my side?... I'd rather he stand BY my side...
Okay - actually, I would rather he just stay away from me.
Okay - actually, I would rather he just stay away from me.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 02:28:18
Whatever you're missing, I'm missing too.
trojanrabbit on 09/05/2008 02:28:18
Quote by leorising:
Truly, I can't bring myself to watch. Am I missing anything?
Whatever you're missing, I'm missing too.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:28:19
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:28:19
Pailin has tackled corruption?
She not only tackled it, she stole its football, and ran down the field with it.
She not only tackled it, she stole its football, and ran down the field with it.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:29:57
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:29:57
McCain looks like he knows he's lying to everyone. He doesn't seem to even believe the words he's saying.
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:30:44
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:30:44
I'm glad you work for me, Senator. I'm from Massachusetts, I have two Senators. What have you done for Arizona lately, may I ask?
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:32:16
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:32:16
More shots of the audience clapping joylessly.
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:32:38
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:32:38
You fought corrupt deals in the Pentagon? Really?
Then how come your name is prominently mentioned in the recent USAF Tanker Contract Scandal (details out on the MB somewhere) ?
Then how come your name is prominently mentioned in the recent USAF Tanker Contract Scandal (details out on the MB somewhere) ?
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:32:51
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:32:51
The only real cheers seem to be when war is mentioned.
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:33:53
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:33:53
An awful lot of conventioneers have that "Gawker Blocker" look...
You know the kind, they slow down to look at the accident during rush hour traffic?
You know the kind, they slow down to look at the accident during rush hour traffic?
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:35:27
Well considering what a train wreck this is...
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:35:27
Quote by TriSec:
An awful lot of conventioneers have that "Gawker Blocker" look...
You know the kind, they slow down to look at the accident during rush hour traffic?
Well considering what a train wreck this is...
Comment by MNRN on 09/05/2008 02:36:00
MNRN on 09/05/2008 02:36:00
well, looks like Mac did not get to deliver his message uninterrupted....very nice work IAVA and Code Pink!!!
the background on the stage looked ridiculous and the movie intro was stupifying.
I could not take anymore (tho my pals at the SPAN were truly representin the feel of the house...as they always do!) so I came to see u keeds.
I should go to bed, but I did get to nap this afternoon....zzzzzz.....
the background on the stage looked ridiculous and the movie intro was stupifying.
I could not take anymore (tho my pals at the SPAN were truly representin the feel of the house...as they always do!) so I came to see u keeds.
I should go to bed, but I did get to nap this afternoon....zzzzzz.....
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:38:57
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:38:57
OK, McCain has got that little impish grin after stating a talking point that's just as annoying as the "president's" smirk...
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:40:37
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:40:37
Your health care plan will benefit the corporations and shift another $2,000 of expenses into my wallet, you bastard.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:41:25
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:41:25
McCain with the checklist of lies. This should be a piece of cake to refute.
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:42:47
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:42:47
You know, there's an easy way to get jobs back to America.
For everything we used to manufacture, we ought to levy a tariff on it that makes it cost just one cent more to produce overseas than it does to make it in the US.
Hit the companies at the bottom line.
For everything we used to manufacture, we ought to levy a tariff on it that makes it cost just one cent more to produce overseas than it does to make it in the US.
Hit the companies at the bottom line.
Comment by 
clintster on 09/05/2008 02:46:53
I heard this on NPR this afternoon; apparently there are only 36 African-American delegates at Palinpalooza., representing a proud 1% of the Republican delegates.
Would this be a good time for a ROTFL emoticon? YES!!!
clintster on 09/05/2008 02:46:53
Quote by BobR:
Raine wants to report that she saw her 3rd person of color in the audience.
I wonder again how much they're being paid to sit there.
I heard this on NPR this afternoon; apparently there are only 36 African-American delegates at Palinpalooza., representing a proud 1% of the Republican delegates.
Would this be a good time for a ROTFL emoticon? YES!!!
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:48:02
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:48:02
He said drill - everyone cheered
He said Nuclear - everyone clapped
He said Clean coal - everyone clapped
He said wind, solar, tides.... *crickets*
He said Nuclear - everyone clapped
He said Clean coal - everyone clapped
He said wind, solar, tides.... *crickets*
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:50:19
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:50:19
First he essentially says "War with Iran Now!"
then segues into we need to work with Russia...
then segues into we need to work with Russia...
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:53:54
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:53:54
McCain says we need to change everything about how we run the government. That's going to require scrapping the Constitution and starting over...
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:55:36
TriSec on 09/05/2008 02:55:36
Post-Bush, any transparency and accountability at all would be a "new standard"...
Comment by leorising on 09/05/2008 02:56:03
Sounds just lovely. Ick.
Nope, can't be arsed to care.
Thanks, guys, for watching, so I don't have to... 
leorising on 09/05/2008 02:56:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by leorising:
Truly, I can't bring myself to watch. Am I missing anything?
Incompetence, platitudes, and a complete dearth of anything related to the economy or other things that people really care about.
Sounds just lovely. Ick.
Nope, can't be arsed to care.
Thanks, guys, for watching, so I don't have to...
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:56:03
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:56:03
Tonights convention in a nutshell:
POW POW WAR POW WAR POW MAVERICK POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR MAVERICK POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW MAVERICK POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR MAVERICK POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR MAVERICK POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR
POW POW WAR POW WAR POW MAVERICK POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR MAVERICK POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW MAVERICK POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR MAVERICK POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR POW POW WAR MAVERICK POW WAR POW POW WAR POW WAR
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:57:17
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:57:17
POW MAVERICK POW POW WAR
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 02:57:29
Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 02:57:29
Here is my reaction to the 30 seconds of McCain's speech I heard. I am going to extrapolate this to the entire RNC. Wha? Bezethud? Hemnick! Wqh? WTF? Meh? Sebdah? Hugzibah? Bizbizjabu! 
Yeah when I hear the GOP speak, it just leaves me speechless. Especially when the crowd starts chanting USA! or Drill, Baby, Drill. Ahmenehhuh?
Mondo, out for this second.
Yeah when I hear the GOP speak, it just leaves me speechless. Especially when the crowd starts chanting USA! or Drill, Baby, Drill. Ahmenehhuh?
Mondo, out for this second.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:58:00
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:58:00
POW POW POW
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 02:58:51
BobR on 09/05/2008 02:58:51
POW POW POW
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:00:16
What? McCain was POW? I did not know that? Wow! Ya learn something new everyday.
Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:00:16
Quote by BobR:
Hey - based on this video, I believe that McCain may have been a POW...
I hadn't heard that before.
What? McCain was POW? I did not know that? Wow! Ya learn something new everyday.
Comment by BobR on 09/05/2008 03:00:53
BobR on 09/05/2008 03:00:53
I can't take it anymore - switching to The Daily Show
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:03:09
Bobber, did she unhinge her jaw and swallow some unsuspecting aide?
Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:03:09
Quote by BobR:
Cindy Lou just said (about the folks in NoLa) that "It's not the nature of Americans to feel empathy towards these folks"
(somewhat paraphrased)
Bobber, did she unhinge her jaw and swallow some unsuspecting aide?
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 03:03:39
"The Mavrick"
TriSec on 09/05/2008 03:03:39
"The Mavrick"
Comment by TriSec on 09/05/2008 03:07:30
TriSec on 09/05/2008 03:07:30
Alright, that was nowhere near as taxing as I thought it would be.
And yet there's so many people too stupid to walk upright and use simple hand tools that will fall for all this hook, line, and sinker.
61 days to the election.
And yet there's so many people too stupid to walk upright and use simple hand tools that will fall for all this hook, line, and sinker.
61 days to the election.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:24:31
Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:24:31
Huckabee is a douchebag, but at least he has something like a real sense of humor.
Comment by leorising on 09/05/2008 03:26:19
Golly socks! You mean McCain was a POW?
Wait -- that means he must've gotten excellent mental health care from the VA, right? Right? Anyone? Bueller?
leorising on 09/05/2008 03:26:19
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:
Hey - based on this video, I believe that McCain may have been a POW...
I hadn't heard that before.
What? McCain was POW? I did not know that? Wow! Ya learn something new everyday.
Golly socks! You mean McCain was a POW?
Wait -- that means he must've gotten excellent mental health care from the VA, right? Right? Anyone? Bueller?
Comment by clintster on 09/05/2008 03:36:33
Barack needs to hit him in the head with a shovel.
Before I do it.
clintster on 09/05/2008 03:36:33
Quote by Raine:
Westmorland ® Georgia calls Obama Uppity.
Barack needs to hit him in the head with a shovel.
Before I do it.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:39:52
:rofl: Brilliant!
Mondobubba on 09/05/2008 03:39:52
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
Westmorland ® Georgia calls Obama Uppity.
Barack needs to hit him in the head with a shovel.
Before I do it.
:rofl: Brilliant!
Comment by leorising on 09/05/2008 04:15:46
leorising on 09/05/2008 04:15:46
clintster, outstanding! *dies*
Comment by livingonli on 09/05/2008 06:08:54
Tell the Governor I said "Ow!"
livingonli on 09/05/2008 06:08:54
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
Westmorland ® Georgia calls Obama Uppity.
Barack needs to hit him in the head with a shovel.
Before I do it.
Tell the Governor I said "Ow!"
Comment by livingonli on 09/05/2008 06:40:42
That's the kind of maverick Republicans believe in.
livingonli on 09/05/2008 06:40:42
Quote by BobR:
Pailin has tackled corruption?
She not only tackled it, she stole its football, and ran down the field with it.
That's the kind of maverick Republicans believe in.