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Libertarian Saturday
Author: TriSec    Date: 09/06/2008 10:33:36

Good Morning!

Returning to form this week with the big conventions done...

Diving right in, I am reminded once again of the biggest challenge facing any third party; ballot access. Something curious is happening in the state of Texas, though.

Did you think it was odd that both the major conventions were so late this year? Well, Bob Barr has also found something interesting. The deadline to file paperwork to appear on the Texas ballot was August 25....before both major candidates were even nominated.

The Libertarian Party had their ducks in a row; now the LP candidate is calling for Texas law to be enforced!
The Bob Barr presidential campaign has stated "serious legal consequences" will occur should Senators Barack Obama and John McCain be allowed on the Texas general election ballot after they knowingly missed the state's deadline to file.

According to documents obtained by the Barr campaign, neither John McCain nor Barack Obama complied with Texas Election Code § 192.031, which requires that filings must be submitted “before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before presidential Election Day," listing the "names of the party's nominees for president and vice-president."

"The Election Code of the State of Texas imposes requirements on a political party, which must be met if its candidates for president and vice-presidents are to appear on the general election ballot," Russell Verney, Bob Barr's campaign manager stated in a letter sent to the Texas Secretary of State's office. "The Democratic Party and Mr. Obama, and the Republican Party and Mr. McCain, blatantly ignored the Texas statutory deadline."

The deadline, which was set at 5 p.m. on August 26, passed before Sen. Obama was nominated and before Sen. McCain had even selected his running mate.

"The law is clear, and it was clearly not followed," says Verney. "The Texas Supreme Court was emphatic when it stated that the law 'does not allow political parties or candidates to ignore statutory deadlines . . .' Senators Obama and McCain did not file by the deadline; therefore, Texas should abide by the laws it created. No political party or candidate is above the law."

Libertarian Party presidential candidate Bob Barr represented the 7th District of Georgia in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003.


Bob Barr is certainly right; it may be interesting to keep an eye on this for the next few weeks.



Of course, opposing both the Democrats and the Republicans means the LP has their opinions of the candidates, too. There's a lengthy blog entry about Gov. Palin this morning. It's generally favorable (alas), but the LP is quick to point out that the pick won't help in the long run.

Should Libertarians be happy with Sarah Palin, the current Alaskan governor and now Sen. John McCain's running mate in his presidential bid? The gut reaction is yes, Libertarians should be excited about Palin. Palin has a reputation for fighting government corruption, wears fur, shoots guns, eats moose and has earned the respect of our state affiliate in Alaska.

Palin's reputation as a reformer—standing up to politicians in one of the most corrupt states in the nation—appeals strongly to the anti-establishment tendencies of Libertarians. Additionally, she was one of the leading figures in stopping the infamous Sen. Ted Stevens' "Bridge to Nowhere."

On the surface, Palin looks like she could be the future of the GOP, especially where McCain fails to live up to the image Republicans hoped to recreate following an embarrassing self-defeat in the 2006 election. Her appeal to the religious right for her strong pro-life stance, and her appeal to fiscal conservatives for taking down the Alaska-regime brighten McCain's prospects in winning the hearts of the GOP base.

But like the permafrost that lies a few inches beneath Alaska's soil, is there a troubling layer to Palin that has yet to be exposed?

McCain's pick of Palin will be the defining moment in the 2008 presidential contest. Like going for two instead of sending the game into overtime, McCain's risky choice will be a make or break decision. While other no-name VP picks have helped, or at least not hurt the presidential tickets, Palin's unknown background may end up turning John McCain into a 2008 version of the McGovern/Eagleton ticket from the '72 election.

Aside from a very calculated attempt to attract a number of different groups McCain has struggled to woo (libertarians, Christian-right, young voters), a Palin pick will seriously stunt McCain's most effective attack on Obama: Lack of experience. Some will say that Palin has more experience than Obama—and admittedly, it's a close call, but even in Obama's limited experience in the Senate he will have gained more practical knowledge of the Executive than Palin would have in her brief time as a city councilwoman, mayor and first-term Governor.

After all, Palin will be spending most of her time presiding over the Senate (someone should tell her this).

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?" said State Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla.




Lastly this morning....both of the major party candidates have been attacking each other over their proposed "tax reform" schemes. (Here's both plans) But both sides are really missing the point. Americans are generally stupid voters; we need policy reduced to a sound bite.


A Tax Cut Is a Pay Raise *

by Michael Cloud

Which excites you more: a tax cut or a pay raise?

If you're like most people, it's the pay raise.

Why?

Every year, politicians promise you tax cuts. Every year, they promise targeted tax cuts for families like yours. Every year, they promise you relief from high taxes. And every year, your taxes are the same as last year -- or higher.

Which do you dread more: a tax hike or a pay cut?

For most of us, it's the pay cut.

Why?

Tax increases happen all the time. Sometimes they're big. Usually they're small. Sometimes they happen right away. Usually they happen slowly. Sometimes they hit you hard. Usually they hit you, but it's not as bad as you expected.

"Tax cuts" and "tax hikes" don't push most people's buttons the way they used to. They don't light us up or shut us down. The emotional charge is gone.

But "pay raises" and "pay cuts" get their pulses pounding, and their passions surging. People love pay raises. And hate pay cuts.

To bring back the love for tax cuts and the loathing for tax hikes, we need to re-phrase and re-frame the issue. We need to link them and marry them to pay raises and pay cuts.

While every pay raise is not a tax cut, every tax cut IS a pay raise.

While every pay cut is not a tax hike, every tax hike IS a pay cut.

So our job is simple. Tell people the truth. As simple as a bumper sticker.

A tax cut is a pay raise.

A tax hike is a pay cut.

You can make it more specific.

Here's how we are using this concept with our Ballot Question 1 to END the Income Tax in Massachusetts.

"A $3,700 Income Tax Cut is a $3,700 Pay Raise for 3,400,000 Massachusetts
Workers and Taxpayers." ($3,700 is the estimated savings Massachusetts workers and taxpayers when the state income tax is eliminated.)

Or: "This tax cut is a pay raise for your family."

Or: "Tax Cuts = Pay Raises."

You can say it many ways. But keep it simple.

Try it. Test it. And look at your results.

It's not just what you say -- it's how you say it.

It's not just what you propose -- it's how you propose it.

That's why it pays to say:

A tax cut is a pay raise.

A tax hike is a pay cut.




We've got a hurricane/tropical storm bearing down on the Northeast this morning. Of course that means there's no bread or milk in any store in the six-state region. We'll be here as long as the lights stay on!


 

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Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 11:40:51
So the Libertarians are going to sue the Obama and McCain camps, or the Dem and Rep. Parties?

Because it's very different. The Dem and Reps set conventions this late, meaning neither would have a candidate that would be legally allowed to enter the Texas General presidential election, before or after the 26th deadline. And even then, to say that either camp knowingly ignored this is, well, pointless. If either camp knew about it, they could not put their name onto the ballot until they were officially the nominee of the party, cause that would have been just as illegal..

So, the Texas thing seems like an issue, but one i can hardly blame on Obama or McCain. Money says Texas courts will let both on and Barr will just be pissed off he can't win Texas.





But then again, any party that would go "Yay" over Palin seriously makes me question their sanity along with throwing out any reason i should trust them.

Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 12:36:14
And if Barr were to succeed in Texas, he'd basically hand the election to Obama. With Texas going to some Random contender, McCain will lose a big base state, and that will give Obama more than enough to have a safe running distance.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/06/2008 12:56:50
Why would the Libertarians sue either party? They'd be suing Texas to enforce its law. If it wasn't legal for the Democrats or Republicans to file before having an official nominee, then they did the lawful thing.



If their paperwork is late it's up to Texas to disallow it.



Of course the really funny thing would be if they found a way to allow McCain to be on the ballot, but not Obama.



Ugh, extremely humid this morning while waiting for the wet kiss of Hanna. You can tell the buildings with AC on, the windows are all fogged up.

Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 13:04:58
I was under the impression that they'd be sueing either party...maybe not.

Comment by BobR on 09/06/2008 13:16:06
We are heading down the highway (or would that be up the highway?) in just a little bit. See y'all back in Atlanta!



oh and Random - stay safe; Ike is on his way...

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/06/2008 13:36:56
Hmm. Humidity reads 88% inside, I don't think I've ever seen it that high in here.



Reminds me of a time quite a while ago when I was still living with my parents and we were awaiting a hurricane (that fizzled out - so I think it was Gloria). My bedroom door had swelled to a point I couldn't close it. I had an old round screen color TV in my room that took up a good part of it (I bought it at a church sale and fixed it up a bit). I was watching Johnny Carson when all of a sudden he went green then faded out in a puff of smoke. The high voltage transformer had blown a hole in its side. Took a while to save up enough to buy a new part and put it in.

Comment by m-hadley on 09/06/2008 14:11:59
Quote by Random:

So the Libertarians are going to sue the Obama and McCain camps, or the Dem and Rep. Parties?

Because it's very different. The Dem and Reps set conventions this late, meaning neither would have a candidate that would be legally allowed to enter the Texas General presidential election, before or after the 26th deadline. And even then, to say that either camp knowingly ignored this is, well, pointless. If either camp knew about it, they could not put their name onto the ballot until they were officially the nominee of the party, cause that would have been just as illegal..

So, the Texas thing seems like an issue, but one i can hardly blame on Obama or McCain. Money says Texas courts will let both on and Barr will just be pissed off he can't win Texas.





But then again, any party that would go "Yay" over Palin seriously makes me question their sanity along with throwing out any reason i should trust them.




Random,

Where do you live? I'm just curious, 'cause of BobR's comment that you should take care with Ike heading to the mainland. Anyway, I couldn't agree more with your comment on the Libertarian beef with Texas. I think it would be great if the Republic of Texas was left out of the election game this year. :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye



BTB, Safe travels Raine & BobR - sounds like you both had a good (and much needed vacation :D) We, on the bloggie, will be glad to have you back :fbump:

Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 15:16:52
Good morning everyone.



I did get some bread yesterday so I can have some sandwiches which at least saves me money on meals. If I am going to get anything done, I better do it early before Hannah hits. Right now it's just cloudy.



mfaye, I believe Random lives in South Florida but I don't know the specific town

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/06/2008 15:23:08
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I did get some bread yesterday so I can have some sandwiches which at least saves me money on meals. If I am going to get anything done, I better do it early before Hannah hits. Right now it's just cloudy.



mfaye, I believe Random lives in South Florida but I don't know the specific town




Just stepping outside makes me break into a sweat. Yuk. Really surprised noone's raiding the store shelves.



Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 15:30:45
It is so muggy here that even the air conditioners were getting moist. Then again I am running them non-stop.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/06/2008 15:41:41
Morning all.. A rare weekend appearance both at the office and on el bloggerino.



And DAMN is it muggy outside! I'm sticky like a pig rollin' in syrup.. I just hope I get home before the real stormy stuff gets here.



That Texas thing is all screwed up man.. I've actually heard some reports that the filing was done but not processed because the nominating conventions wer so late, and that amended filings would be sent in after both parties were done. When you look at the Texas SOS site now that the conventions are done, the blank spots in the row for President have been filled in.





Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 15:44:28
The conventions used to be much earlier. I wish they would move them back up but the Republicans feel the need to have their convention before 9-11 to exploit it just like they did in 2004.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/06/2008 15:55:48
"It's dispiriting... This is just partisan poison, and after a while you get tired of covering it."



- Brit Hume, retiring Fox News Channel anchor



Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 15:59:18
Considering the crap Fox News has spewed of late. They just sound increasing desperate and less fact-based. Hope that finally drives people away from the network. Although it will still be watched by the die-hards.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/06/2008 15:59:43
Happy Caturday everyone!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/06/2008 16:17:00
Quote by BobR:

We are heading down the highway (or would that be up the highway?) in just a little bit. See y'all back in Atlanta!



oh and Random - stay safe; Ike is on his way...






Are you heading down the Atlanta highway in Chrysler as big as a whale? Yeah it was lame, put when you see such a tasty belt high pitch you need to swing. I made contact! I went right over the shortstop's head I got to first base on that!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/06/2008 16:19:56
Rabbit, Liv, Scoop welcome to my world! Humidity, check. Cyclonic weather systems, check.



Tri, when my mom went to her local Piggly Wiggly for a few items the other day Hannah fever had hit eastern North Carolina. No bottled water or canned meats. I guess that included Dinty Moore stew.

Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 17:02:02
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Random:

So the Libertarians are going to sue the Obama and McCain camps, or the Dem and Rep. Parties?

Because it's very different. The Dem and Reps set conventions this late, meaning neither would have a candidate that would be legally allowed to enter the Texas General presidential election, before or after the 26th deadline. And even then, to say that either camp knowingly ignored this is, well, pointless. If either camp knew about it, they could not put their name onto the ballot until they were officially the nominee of the party, cause that would have been just as illegal..

So, the Texas thing seems like an issue, but one i can hardly blame on Obama or McCain. Money says Texas courts will let both on and Barr will just be pissed off he can't win Texas.





But then again, any party that would go "Yay" over Palin seriously makes me question their sanity along with throwing out any reason i should trust them.




Random,

Where do you live? I'm just curious, 'cause of BobR's comment that you should take care with Ike heading to the mainland. Anyway, I couldn't agree more with your comment on the Libertarian beef with Texas. I think it would be great if the Republic of Texas was left out of the election game this year. :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye



BTB, Safe travels Raine & BobR - sounds like you both had a good (and much needed vacation :D) We, on the bloggie, will be glad to have you back :fbump:


South Florida.

And I'm not sure what my comments were. I think it was calling the Libertarians babies, and it was truly a fruitless battle.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/06/2008 18:05:40
Just checked the latest satellite - storm's centered over DC now but most of the big rain looks like it's up through PA & NY..

Comment by Scoopster on 09/06/2008 18:52:01
This is a really BIG image so I'll just link it..



Epic lulz, but don't wanna break the bloggie!

Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 18:55:04
The rain has started here. I just dropped my laundry off and now I'm chilling.

Comment by TriSec on 09/06/2008 18:55:09
Passing through....



Outside it's like having a wool blanket fresh out of the dryer draped over you while someone pours on buckets of hot water.....yick.



The sun has been in and out, though. Looks like the leading edge is making for NYC. We're all set with 6 loaves of bread and 5 gallons of milk.





Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 19:19:30
They already called the Met game for today a few hours ago. So, they will have a doubleheader tomorrow.

Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 19:40:07
I should have checked this, WNET is running the whole Frontline on the build up to the Iraq war.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/06/2008 19:52:02
Looks like we're a few minutes away from the first band of crap hitting here.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/06/2008 19:54:47
Through the first wave here, nothing much, just heavy rain for about 10 minutes..



The next band looks more promising though. With any luck I'll be on the way home before it gets here.

Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 21:35:21
Headline News is reporting that Silver State Bank in Nevada has been shut down. We haven't seen bank takeovers like this since the Great Depression.

Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 22:04:40
Any buddy home?

Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 22:38:00
Hi Random. I'm home because it's not a day to go out here.

Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 23:26:03
Wow...Is Pam here?

I saw the Ghost Hunter episode FREAKY!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/06/2008 23:29:48
Quote by Random:

Any buddy home?




Home, but bouncing all over the place. You know when you try to multi-task too many things nothing gets done.

Comment by livingonli on 09/06/2008 23:34:19
Quote by Random:

Wow...Is Pam here?

I saw the Ghost Hunter episode FREAKY!


She usually doesn't blog on weekends.

Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 23:34:54
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Random:

Any buddy home?




Home, but bouncing all over the place. You know when you try to multi-task too many things nothing gets done.


*sitting in underwear eating cookies.* Hm?

Comment by Random on 09/06/2008 23:50:20
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Wow...Is Pam here?

I saw the Ghost Hunter episode FREAKY!


She usually doesn't blog on weekends.


Well, damn me.

Comment by Random on 09/07/2008 00:19:10
Random found a cool British show, called Primeval. If ya can check it out.

Comment by livingonli on 09/07/2008 01:08:58
I figured more people would be on the blog tonight with this weather.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/07/2008 01:16:02
I'm around.. digging through stuff and playing Final Fantasy, waiting for the power to go out again :p

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/07/2008 01:36:35
I finally got around to watching Supper Club.

Comment by velveeta jones on 09/07/2008 01:42:36
Well finally! Hey all. Great post TriSec. I would like to see the Green Party and the Libertarian Party both on the ballots! The more the merrier!



:D



Anyway, with my craptop down for the count, at least for awhile, we are a one computer family. And wrestling the computer from Aunt Azalea is not easy, she's stingy with ......hey, put down that fry pan.....



OW!

Comment by livingonli on 09/07/2008 01:45:38
Velveeta, wake up. Say a few syllables.



:applies smelling salts, cold water:

Comment by velveeta jones on 09/07/2008 02:09:59
:rofl:



I'm awake!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/07/2008 02:16:20
Quote by Scoopster:

I'm around.. digging through stuff and playing Final Fantasy, waiting for the power to go out again :p






Scoop, I feel thy pain. Power is on...no wait...off...no on. Screw it, I'm going to a movie.

Comment by livingonli on 09/07/2008 02:45:48
Power's been holding out here.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/07/2008 02:59:54
Bottom of the 15th Angels and White Sox.

Comment by livingonli on 09/07/2008 03:10:28
How does someone get by with a name like Jackie Bange without someone throwing a double entendre in there?

Comment by Raine on 09/07/2008 03:16:12
Quote by livingonli:

Headline News is reporting that Silver State Bank in Nevada has been shut down. We haven't seen bank takeovers like this since the Great Depression.


That was the same bank that had John McCain's son on the Board of Directors. He resigned a few weeks ago, just before the 3rd quarter profits were going to be made public...





Hey everyone! We are home. It is nice to be back in my fancy computer chair, chilling.

Comment by Raine on 09/07/2008 03:24:59
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Headline News is reporting that Silver State Bank in Nevada has been shut down. We haven't seen bank takeovers like this since the Great Depression.


That was the same bank that had John McCain's son on the Board of Directors. He resigned a few weeks ago, just before the 3rd quarter profits were going to be made public...





Hey everyone! We are home. It is nice to be back in my fancy computer chair, chilling.
oAnd it seems as tho he was also on the Board of Directors Auditing committee as well..



Can anyone say Keating 5 II? Or would that be Keating X?



Comment by livingonli on 09/07/2008 03:25:03
Hi Raine. Did the two of you have a nice trip?

Comment by Raine on 09/07/2008 03:27:33
From CNBC:



Andrew K. McCain, a son of Republican presidential nominee John McCain, sat on the boards of Silver State Bank and of its parent, Silver State Bancorp, starting in February but resigned in July citing "personal reasons," corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission show. Andrew McCain also was a member of the bank's audit committee, responsible for oversight of the company's accounting.



The younger McCain, who is the chief financial officer of Hensley & Co., the beer distributorship of which Cindy McCain is chairwoman, is the Arizona senator's adopted son from his first marriage.




Comment by livingonli on 09/07/2008 03:28:10
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Headline News is reporting that Silver State Bank in Nevada has been shut down. We haven't seen bank takeovers like this since the Great Depression.


That was the same bank that had John McCain's son on the Board of Directors. He resigned a few weeks ago, just before the 3rd quarter profits were going to be made public...





Hey everyone! We are home. It is nice to be back in my fancy computer chair, chilling.
oAnd it seems as tho he was also on the Board of Directors Auditing committee as well..



Can anyone say Keating 5 II? Or would that be Keating X?



Holy shit. Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse. Between this and the crap with Palin, there is more than enough material to destroy this campaign.



BTW, I did pick up the US and National Enquirer when I was in the supermarket yesterday. I'm saving it for some late night reading.