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Pitbull or Showdog?
Author: Raine
Date: 09/08/2008 12:30:49
Good Morning. I want to thank everyone for filling in while we were on vacation.
Last week was Sarah Palin week. Understandably so. A surprising and questionable decision for McCain. He wanted to show what a Maverick he is. He wanted to show that He could shake things up. He wanted to show that he is not part of the Washington Elite... He wanted a lot of things. I think the world is finding out a lot of things about Sarah. That is good. Right?
But I would like to get back to McCain for a moment. Let's not forget that he is the one voters elected. Not one person in America cast a vote in the primaries for Sarah Palin. Not one. She put no cracks in any ceiling as the McCain campaign would have you believe.
Republicans are crying Sexism at the very thought to question her choices. I never had a chance to choose to vote for her, nor have I had a chance to learn any more about her than the innuendo I hear around coffee shops, the internet and the radio. I am a woman who likes to make a well educated choice. I will be honest with you, I probably wouldn't vote for McCain anyway, no matter who was on the ticket, but the idea - the true idea - is to be well informed of your choices. That isn't sexist, that is being pragmatic. And truthfully, if John MCCain wants to claim that his running mate is being treated with a sexist bias, perhaps he himself should take a look at how he is treating Sarah Palin Himself. So Apparently, Sarah Palin is too fragile a woman to handle questions from the mean media? Are we supposed to believe that THIS isn't a sexist thing to do? They are keeping the little lady in the back room until the *Big Boys* she so fondly called them are ready to 'let her come out and play'? She claims to be able to run with the big boys, and THIS is what we get? She hasn't answered one friggin' question from anyone, except US Weekly and People Magazine. (both which should be on newsstands any day) If that isn't sexism, I don't know what is. They have subjugated Sarah Palin because they don't think she is strong enough to handle the media.
This campaign and this republican party suddenly are acting as tho they have the corner on feminism and they chose to show it by keeping their VP candidate - one who I haven't had a choice to get to know - in a back room until they are ready to parade her out.
I thought she was a pit bull, not a show dog.
Sarah Palin is not feminist. Sarah Palin is being treated by john McCain the same way he seems to treat all woman, with contempt. John McCain and Sarah Palin are no mavericks.
I urge you to remember that when it comes to Choice, John McCain doesn't want you to have one. It is illustrated very clearly by how he is treating Sarah Palin, and Sarah? She has no problem being told what to do by the big boys. While the Republicans try to tell you that they are the new party of Feminism, Choice and Change, I urge you to remember and remind people...
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for a woman's right to choose.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for better health care.
The Democrats have been the ones for better education.
The Democrats have been the ones to help families have a step up in life.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for civil rights.
The list goes on, but remember all of the things that Democrats have been standing for for decades are not anything CLOSE to creating people like John McCain and Sarah Palin. Don't let the Republicans try to propagate the notion that they are about choice just because they picked a female VP. Women in this country are still a majority, not John McCain and whatsername or any of the Republican party. John McCain is the one running to take away your right to choose. Sarah is just along for the ride, cause well... She is a pretty little pit bull you know.
And yes, THAT was what sexism looks like. Questioning whether or not her daughter REALLY had a choice is not. Questioning her son's motives for joining the military is not. Questioning her choices in literature is not. Questioning her budgetary discretion is not. Questioning her human resource capabilities is not.
But that won't happen until everyone starts being nice to the little lady. That is what Grampa said, and after all, He is the one running for president. Don't forget that. They are using a woman to distract us from the real and serious issues of the day, by putting lipstick on a ... well you get the idea.
:peace: and
Raine
Last week was Sarah Palin week. Understandably so. A surprising and questionable decision for McCain. He wanted to show what a Maverick he is. He wanted to show that He could shake things up. He wanted to show that he is not part of the Washington Elite... He wanted a lot of things. I think the world is finding out a lot of things about Sarah. That is good. Right?
But I would like to get back to McCain for a moment. Let's not forget that he is the one voters elected. Not one person in America cast a vote in the primaries for Sarah Palin. Not one. She put no cracks in any ceiling as the McCain campaign would have you believe.
Republicans are crying Sexism at the very thought to question her choices. I never had a chance to choose to vote for her, nor have I had a chance to learn any more about her than the innuendo I hear around coffee shops, the internet and the radio. I am a woman who likes to make a well educated choice. I will be honest with you, I probably wouldn't vote for McCain anyway, no matter who was on the ticket, but the idea - the true idea - is to be well informed of your choices. That isn't sexist, that is being pragmatic. And truthfully, if John MCCain wants to claim that his running mate is being treated with a sexist bias, perhaps he himself should take a look at how he is treating Sarah Palin Himself.
Rick Davis, campaign manager for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., just told Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace that McCain running mate Gov. Sarah Palin won't subject herself to any tough questions from reporters "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference."
Davis assailed the way the media had discussed Palin and her family in the last week and said the campaign would wait until a less hostile media environment.
This campaign and this republican party suddenly are acting as tho they have the corner on feminism and they chose to show it by keeping their VP candidate - one who I haven't had a choice to get to know - in a back room until they are ready to parade her out.
I thought she was a pit bull, not a show dog.
Sarah Palin is not feminist. Sarah Palin is being treated by john McCain the same way he seems to treat all woman, with contempt. John McCain and Sarah Palin are no mavericks.
I urge you to remember that when it comes to Choice, John McCain doesn't want you to have one. It is illustrated very clearly by how he is treating Sarah Palin, and Sarah? She has no problem being told what to do by the big boys. While the Republicans try to tell you that they are the new party of Feminism, Choice and Change, I urge you to remember and remind people...
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for a woman's right to choose.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for better health care.
The Democrats have been the ones for better education.
The Democrats have been the ones to help families have a step up in life.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for civil rights.
The list goes on, but remember all of the things that Democrats have been standing for for decades are not anything CLOSE to creating people like John McCain and Sarah Palin. Don't let the Republicans try to propagate the notion that they are about choice just because they picked a female VP. Women in this country are still a majority, not John McCain and whatsername or any of the Republican party. John McCain is the one running to take away your right to choose. Sarah is just along for the ride, cause well... She is a pretty little pit bull you know.
And yes, THAT was what sexism looks like. Questioning whether or not her daughter REALLY had a choice is not. Questioning her son's motives for joining the military is not. Questioning her choices in literature is not. Questioning her budgetary discretion is not. Questioning her human resource capabilities is not.
But that won't happen until everyone starts being nice to the little lady. That is what Grampa said, and after all, He is the one running for president. Don't forget that. They are using a woman to distract us from the real and serious issues of the day, by putting lipstick on a ... well you get the idea.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 12:54:19
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 12:54:19
Morning 
Glad our travelers are home safe!
If McPalin won't talk to the media until they "give her some respect" how is she going to deal with countries that don't believe women to be worth the time of day?
Glad our travelers are home safe!
If McPalin won't talk to the media until they "give her some respect" how is she going to deal with countries that don't believe women to be worth the time of day?
Comment by 
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 12:54:24
Brilliant, Raine!
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 12:54:24
I thought she was a pit bull, not a show dog.
Brilliant, Raine!
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/08/2008 12:58:58
TriSec on 09/08/2008 12:58:58
Morning, comrades.
TriSec is disgruntled.
TriSec is disgruntled.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/08/2008 12:59:12
She'll bomb the f*ck out of them?
I would like to know that as well, Mala.
Raine on 09/08/2008 12:59:12
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
Glad our travelers are home safe!
If McPalin won't talk to the media until they "give her some respect" how is she going to deal with countries that don't believe women to be worth the time of day?
I would like to know that as well, Mala.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:02:14
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:02:14
For those that Missed it, Frank Rich had an amazing (once again) peice in yesterdays NYT:
[...]
The Times had it right. The McCain campaign’s claims of a “full vetting process” for Palin were as much a lie as the biographical details they’ve invented for her. There was no F.B.I. background check. The Times found no evidence that a McCain representative spoke to anyone in the State Legislature or business community. Nor did anyone talk to the fired state public safety commissioner at the center of the Palin ethics investigation. No McCain researcher even bothered to consult the relevant back issues of the Wasilla paper. Apparently when McCain said in June that his vice presidential vetting process was basically “a Google,” he wasn’t joking.
This is a roll of the dice beyond even Bill Clinton’s imagination. “Often my haste is a mistake,” McCain conceded in his 2002 memoir, “but I live with the consequences without complaint.” Well, maybe it’s fine if he wants to live with the consequences, but what about his country? Should the unexamined Palin prove unfit to serve at the pinnacle of American power, it will be too late for the rest of us to complain.
We’ve already seen where such visceral decision-making by McCain can lead. In October 2001, he speculated that Saddam Hussein might have been behind the anthrax attacks in America. That same month he out-Cheneyed Cheney in his repeated public insistence that Iraq had a role in 9/11 — even after both American and foreign intelligence services found that unlikely. He was similarly rash in his reading of the supposed evidence of Saddam’s W.M.D. and in his estimate of the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq. (McCain told MSNBC in late 2001 that we could do with fewer than 100,000.) It wasn’t until months after “Mission Accomplished” that he called for more American forces to be tossed into the bloodbath. The whole fiasco might have been prevented had he listened to those like Gen. Eric Shinseki who faulted the Rumsfeld war plan from the start.
In other words, McCain’s hasty vetting of Palin was all too reminiscent of his grave dereliction of due diligence on the war. He has been no less hasty in implying that we might somehow ride to the military rescue of Georgia (“Today, we are all Georgians”) or in reaffirming as late as December 2007 that the crumbling anti-democratic regime of Pervez Musharraf deserved “the benefit of the doubt” even as it was enabling the resurgence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. McCain’s blanket endorsement of Bush administration policy in Pakistan could have consequences for years to come.
“This election is not about issues” so much as the candidates’ images, said the McCain campaign manager, Davis, in one of the season’s most notable pronouncements.[...]
[...]
The Times had it right. The McCain campaign’s claims of a “full vetting process” for Palin were as much a lie as the biographical details they’ve invented for her. There was no F.B.I. background check. The Times found no evidence that a McCain representative spoke to anyone in the State Legislature or business community. Nor did anyone talk to the fired state public safety commissioner at the center of the Palin ethics investigation. No McCain researcher even bothered to consult the relevant back issues of the Wasilla paper. Apparently when McCain said in June that his vice presidential vetting process was basically “a Google,” he wasn’t joking.
This is a roll of the dice beyond even Bill Clinton’s imagination. “Often my haste is a mistake,” McCain conceded in his 2002 memoir, “but I live with the consequences without complaint.” Well, maybe it’s fine if he wants to live with the consequences, but what about his country? Should the unexamined Palin prove unfit to serve at the pinnacle of American power, it will be too late for the rest of us to complain.
We’ve already seen where such visceral decision-making by McCain can lead. In October 2001, he speculated that Saddam Hussein might have been behind the anthrax attacks in America. That same month he out-Cheneyed Cheney in his repeated public insistence that Iraq had a role in 9/11 — even after both American and foreign intelligence services found that unlikely. He was similarly rash in his reading of the supposed evidence of Saddam’s W.M.D. and in his estimate of the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq. (McCain told MSNBC in late 2001 that we could do with fewer than 100,000.) It wasn’t until months after “Mission Accomplished” that he called for more American forces to be tossed into the bloodbath. The whole fiasco might have been prevented had he listened to those like Gen. Eric Shinseki who faulted the Rumsfeld war plan from the start.
In other words, McCain’s hasty vetting of Palin was all too reminiscent of his grave dereliction of due diligence on the war. He has been no less hasty in implying that we might somehow ride to the military rescue of Georgia (“Today, we are all Georgians”) or in reaffirming as late as December 2007 that the crumbling anti-democratic regime of Pervez Musharraf deserved “the benefit of the doubt” even as it was enabling the resurgence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. McCain’s blanket endorsement of Bush administration policy in Pakistan could have consequences for years to come.
“This election is not about issues” so much as the candidates’ images, said the McCain campaign manager, Davis, in one of the season’s most notable pronouncements.[...]
Comment by 
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:06:49
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:06:49
morning folks... :coffee:
back to the grind...
back to the grind...
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:06:51
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:06:51
Welcome home Raine & BobR!
Yes, John McCain is some "Mavrick". And a moran.
I'm not in the media obviously but there's damn few Republicans I'm willing to show ANY respect for. And none of them are neo-con / fascist slime.
Yes, John McCain is some "Mavrick". And a moran.
I'm not in the media obviously but there's damn few Republicans I'm willing to show ANY respect for. And none of them are neo-con / fascist slime.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:07:49
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:07:49
oooOOOooo Frangela!
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:08:34
I hope you find your gruntles...
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:08:34
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
TriSec is disgruntled.
I hope you find your gruntles...
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:10:20
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:10:20
It's my understanding that Palin is going to do a sit down with Charlie Gibson "at the end of this week." i.e. 9/11, 9/12 - right after her son is deployed - so not only does ABC need to thread the needle on the sexism "meanie" charges, but they have to be courteous to her as her son goes to Iraq. Building the "Chinese Wall" up for the interview.
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:12:25
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:12:25
Coney Island to close permanently...
:(
How sad - this is a piece of Americana. I am a little surprised that some deal coudn't have been worked out (considering that Developers were involved, perhaps not too surprised). I'm just glad I got to go once.
:(
How sad - this is a piece of Americana. I am a little surprised that some deal coudn't have been worked out (considering that Developers were involved, perhaps not too surprised). I'm just glad I got to go once.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:16:37
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:16:37
Charlie Gibson... the only reporter who promised to be nice?
I won't be holding my breath about Charlie Gibson. Sorry for the cynicism, but After reading the news that KO and Chris Matthews are no longer going to be doing the News at the debates for MSNBC, after the McCain campaign complained... I am so jaded. From the NYT...
Funny, No one ever makes a stink when news moves to the right...
I won't be holding my breath about Charlie Gibson. Sorry for the cynicism, but After reading the news that KO and Chris Matthews are no longer going to be doing the News at the debates for MSNBC, after the McCain campaign complained... I am so jaded. From the NYT...
MSNBC tried a bold experiment this year by putting two politically incendiary hosts, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, in the anchor chair to lead the cable news channel’s coverage of the election.
That experiment appears to be over.
After months of accusations of political bias and simmering animosity between MSNBC and its parent network NBC, the channel decided over the weekend that the NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host David Gregory would anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night. Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews will remain as analysts during the coverage.
The change — which comes in the home stretch of the long election cycle — is a direct result of tensions associated with the channel’s perceived shift to the political left.
[...]
The McCain campaign has filed letters of complaint to the news division about its coverage and openly tied MSNBC to it. Tension between the network and the campaign hit an apex the day Mr. McCain announced Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. MSNBC had reported Friday morning that Ms. Palin’s plane was enroute to the announcement and she was likely the pick. But McCain campaign officials warned the network off, with one official going so far as to say that all of the candidates on the short list were on their way — which MSNBC then reported.
Funny, No one ever makes a stink when news moves to the right...
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:17:14
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:17:14
Great, and now we've got Frangela instead of Momma. (No knock on the Frangela, just not my kind of listening.)
I need to smash something. It's that kind of morning.
I need to smash something. It's that kind of morning.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:17:42
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:17:42
Anyone surprised?
Of course, this just gives more ammo to Rick Davis and Fox "News."
(edit - oops! -- sorry, Raine - I should have refreshed before posting...)
Of course, this just gives more ammo to Rick Davis and Fox "News."
(edit - oops! -- sorry, Raine - I should have refreshed before posting...)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:18:12
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:18:12
Quote by Shane-O:
It's my understanding that Palin is going to do a sit down with Charlie Gibson "at the end of this week." i.e. 9/11, 9/12 - right after her son is deployed - so not only does ABC need to thread the needle on the sexism "meanie" charges, but they have to be courteous to her as her son goes to Iraq. Building the "Chinese Wall" up for the interview.
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:19:16
I'm sure it'll get the Historic treatment by some group.
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:19:16
Quote by BobR:
Coney Island to close permanently...
:(
How sad - this is a piece of Americana. I am a little surprised that some deal coudn't have been worked out (considering that Developers were involved, perhaps not too surprised). I'm just glad I got to go once.
I'm sure it'll get the Historic treatment by some group.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:21:14
Yes, I know - wishful thinking.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:21:14
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:
It's my understanding that Palin is going to do a sit down with Charlie Gibson "at the end of this week." i.e. 9/11, 9/12 - right after her son is deployed - so not only does ABC need to thread the needle on the sexism "meanie" charges, but they have to be courteous to her as her son goes to Iraq. Building the "Chinese Wall" up for the interview.
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
Yes, I know - wishful thinking.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:22:32
Are there going to be any other election news events?... Other than the debates and election night?
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:22:32
Quote by Shane-O:
Anyone surprised?
Of course, this just gives more ammo to Rick Davis and Fox "News."
(edit - oops! -- sorry, Raine - I should have refreshed before posting...)
Are there going to be any other election news events?... Other than the debates and election night?
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:23:03
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:23:03
pfft. Shane-O that was just another interesting take on this story.
It pisses me off. This is just more of the same manipulation and capitulation of the media.
It pisses me off. This is just more of the same manipulation and capitulation of the media.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:23:24
But HER son is going on 9/11™
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:23:24
Quote by wickedpam:
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
But HER son is going on 9/11™
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:28:19
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:28:19
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:29:15
so they're putting him on a plane or ship all by his lonesome?
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:29:15
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
But HER son is going on 9/11™
so they're putting him on a plane or ship all by his lonesome?
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:32:05
Well, their job is clearly to make a profit - and how do they do that? - By entertaining - certainly not by informing. Who's left to actually get information to an uniformed public? - the campaigns certainly won't. Blogs? They reach only those who read them. LIV's (not you liv) will LIVE ON!
And they will do so despite the wonderful Fox, CNN and MSNBC promos lauding the democratic process.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:32:05
Quote by Raine:
pfft. Shane-O that was just another interesting take on this story.
It pisses me off. This is just more of the same manipulation and capitulation of the media.
Well, their job is clearly to make a profit - and how do they do that? - By entertaining - certainly not by informing. Who's left to actually get information to an uniformed public? - the campaigns certainly won't. Blogs? They reach only those who read them. LIV's (not you liv) will LIVE ON!
And they will do so despite the wonderful Fox, CNN and MSNBC promos lauding the democratic process.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:32:08
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:32:08
Why not? It's an actual child of an actual Republican going to serve.
That's rare enough on it's own merit.
That's rare enough on it's own merit.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:33:03
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:33:03
Just installed a new 24" monitor on my work PC. YIKES, when the desktop came up I was greeted with a gigantic picture of my cat, thought he was going to attack.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:40:49
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:40:49
I have a neighbor with a Pitbull - know what I feel when I see it out?
Not safe.
Not safe.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:41:16
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:41:16
Regarding Astroland...
Most of the "regional" theme parks around New England have long-since closed.
Paragon Park (Hull, MA)
Whalom Park (Lincoln, MA)
Rocky Point (Rhode Island)
Revere Beach (long ago).
There's only two family owned parks left....Canobie Lake (NH) and Lake Compounce (CT).
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Guess you can't make any money in the amusement park business unless you've got cartoon characters and a theme.
Most of the "regional" theme parks around New England have long-since closed.
Paragon Park (Hull, MA)
Whalom Park (Lincoln, MA)
Rocky Point (Rhode Island)
Revere Beach (long ago).
There's only two family owned parks left....Canobie Lake (NH) and Lake Compounce (CT).
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Guess you can't make any money in the amusement park business unless you've got cartoon characters and a theme.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:42:19
No dog is bad from the beginning; they only imitate their atmosphere.
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:42:19
Quote by wickedpam:
I have a neighbor with a Pitbull - know what I feel when I see it out?
Not safe.
No dog is bad from the beginning; they only imitate their atmosphere.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:45:09
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:45:09
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
I have a neighbor with a Pitbull - know what I feel when I see it out?
Not safe.
No dog is bad from the beginning; they only imitate their atmosphere.
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:54:49
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:54:49
Is it time to sound the alarm yet?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:55:57
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:55:57
its the USA Today poll (I think) that people are freaking out about. Thought that was a more conservative paper anyway.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:58:05
We must remian vigilant, but really the key is the individual states. I Am concerned, but this is a post convention Bounce. We didn't really get that becuase of back to back conventions.
I am telling you... it is about the STATES> >>>
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:58:05
Quote by TriSec:
Is it time to sound the alarm yet?
We must remian vigilant, but really the key is the individual states. I Am concerned, but this is a post convention Bounce. We didn't really get that becuase of back to back conventions.
I am telling you... it is about the STATES> >>>
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:02:09
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:02:09
(Out of left field RANT):
I just wish that Obama would put this "breaking with your own party" meme away.
The only reason McCain is claiming to have broken with his own party is because the Republican brand is in the shitter.
Then they come back and chastise Obama for not breaking with his party. Well, since he has been in the Senate, his party has been on the better side of all the issues. Why break from what is better? Be proud - and say "no, I haven't broken from them, because the Dems have been right."
I just wish that Obama would put this "breaking with your own party" meme away.
The only reason McCain is claiming to have broken with his own party is because the Republican brand is in the shitter.
Then they come back and chastise Obama for not breaking with his party. Well, since he has been in the Senate, his party has been on the better side of all the issues. Why break from what is better? Be proud - and say "no, I haven't broken from them, because the Dems have been right."
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:02:13
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:02:13
think that list wasn't correct - I was checkout libarian.net and they noted that any of the Harry Potter books were not printed 1996.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:02:20
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:02:20
Well there it is Like Randi Rhodes says... Privatize the Profits, Socialize the losses... That is the republican way. They took over -- officially -- Fannie and Freddie.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:05:53
I've met plenty of pitbulls and they've all been big sweeties. Next time they're out, you could walk up and ask if s/he's friendly. You might end up with a face full of doggie kisses.
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:05:53
Quote by wickedpam:
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
I've met plenty of pitbulls and they've all been big sweeties. Next time they're out, you could walk up and ask if s/he's friendly. You might end up with a face full of doggie kisses.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:06:07
livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:06:07
Good morning everyone. I have a doctor's appointment at 10:45. We'll see what the results are this time.
My problem is the entire mainstream media in this country has pretty much shifted to the right. Aside from Keith and now Rachel, MSNBC can spew the same claptrap as the others. I usually end up drifting to CNN International (which hasn't turned to a crapfest like its domestic channel), BBC World or EuroNews. Now if only I could get the CBC News on a regular basis.
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
My problem is the entire mainstream media in this country has pretty much shifted to the right. Aside from Keith and now Rachel, MSNBC can spew the same claptrap as the others. I usually end up drifting to CNN International (which hasn't turned to a crapfest like its domestic channel), BBC World or EuroNews. Now if only I could get the CBC News on a regular basis.
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:07:17
knowing people that have the dog - I'd more likely get my face chewed off. They are not very nice people
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:07:17
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
I've met plenty of pitbulls and they've all been big sweeties. Next time they're out, you could walk up and ask if s/he's friendly. You might end up with a face full of doggie kisses.
knowing people that have the dog - I'd more likely get my face chewed off. They are not very nice people
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:07:25
Well, big business apparently liked that. Dow is up 200 points at this hour.
[There is still that part of me that wants to see the market tank.....knowing full well my own retirement would be affected.]
TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:07:25
Quote by Raine:
Well there it is Like Randi Rhodes says... Privatize the Profits, Socialize the losses... That is the republican way. They took over -- officially -- Fannie and Freddie.
Well, big business apparently liked that. Dow is up 200 points at this hour.
[There is still that part of me that wants to see the market tank.....knowing full well my own retirement would be affected.]
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:07:47
I posted it late last night on the blog. The Palin book banning list being circulated around is bogus. It's actually a list of ALL books that people have tried to ban through the years, not books that she specifically tried to ban.
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:07:47
Quote by wickedpam:
think that list wasn't correct - I was checkout libarian.net and they noted that any of the Harry Potter books were not printed 1996.
I posted it late last night on the blog. The Palin book banning list being circulated around is bogus. It's actually a list of ALL books that people have tried to ban through the years, not books that she specifically tried to ban.
Comment by 
starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:08:04
starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:08:04
Good morning all! 
Welcome back BoRaine!
Raine, great post!
Tonight is Rachel Maddow Night!!!
:scans blog:
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
Welcome back BoRaine!
Raine, great post!
Tonight is Rachel Maddow Night!!!
:scans blog:
Quote by TriSec:
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:09:31
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:09:31
REgarding the Independents... I believe that when Palin was chosen, the independents were basically told by the republicans to take a hike.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:11:08
We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:11:08
Quote by starling310:
Good morning all!Quote by TriSec:
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:11:13
There's an amusement park in north GA still open called Lake Winnepesaukah. I believe it is still family owned, but I don't know for sure.
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:11:13
Quote by TriSec:
Regarding Astroland...
Most of the "regional" theme parks around New England have long-since closed.
Paragon Park (Hull, MA)
Whalom Park (Lincoln, MA)
Rocky Point (Rhode Island)
Revere Beach (long ago).
There's only two family owned parks left....Canobie Lake (NH) and Lake Compounce (CT).
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Guess you can't make any money in the amusement park business unless you've got cartoon characters and a theme.
There's an amusement park in north GA still open called Lake Winnepesaukah. I believe it is still family owned, but I don't know for sure.
Comment by starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:12:20
My family took me and my brother every summer! The night before we'd go, I wouldn't be able to sleep!!!!
starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:12:20
Quote by Raine:We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!Quote by starling310:
Good morning all!Quote by TriSec:
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
My family took me and my brother every summer! The night before we'd go, I wouldn't be able to sleep!!!!
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:12:29
And the upper class whines about THIER taxes being a transfer of wealth.
As productivity of the American worker has gone up, wages have gone down. THAT's a transfer of wealth.
As the government prints money to pay its debts, leading to inflation (the most regressive of taxes) - THAT's a transfer of weath.
As the government shifts risk from corporations to the taxpayer - THAT's a transfer of wealth.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:12:29
Quote by Raine:
Well there it is Like Randi Rhodes says... Privatize the Profits, Socialize the losses... That is the republican way. They took over -- officially -- Fannie and Freddie.
And the upper class whines about THIER taxes being a transfer of wealth.
As productivity of the American worker has gone up, wages have gone down. THAT's a transfer of wealth.
As the government prints money to pay its debts, leading to inflation (the most regressive of taxes) - THAT's a transfer of weath.
As the government shifts risk from corporations to the taxpayer - THAT's a transfer of wealth.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:13:40
How is it that he can just move the elections?
Sarah Palin is a pentacostal. We do not need to go to the dominionisting of Sarah Palin now.
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:13:40
Quote by livingonli:
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
Sarah Palin is a pentacostal. We do not need to go to the dominionisting of Sarah Palin now.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:14:37
I disagree - Palin will sure up the far-Right. Now McCain can go out and hunt Independents without fear of losing the far-Right. They are now goose-stepping behind her and won't hear McCain's "moderate" message. His interview on Face the Nation yesterday was the McCain of 2000.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:14:37
Quote by Raine:
REgarding the Independents... I believe that when Palin was chosen, the independents were basically told by the republicans to take a hike.
I disagree - Palin will sure up the far-Right. Now McCain can go out and hunt Independents without fear of losing the far-Right. They are now goose-stepping behind her and won't hear McCain's "moderate" message. His interview on Face the Nation yesterday was the McCain of 2000.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:15:59
hhmmmm - Holy Rollers freak me out, personally
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:15:59
Quote by Raine:How is it that he can just move the elections?Quote by livingonli:
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
Sarah Palin is a pentacostal. We do not need to go to the dominionisting of Sarah Palin now.
hhmmmm - Holy Rollers freak me out, personally
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:17:05
When I was a kid growing up in upstate NY, there was a place called Roseland on the northern tip of Canandaigua Lake. Apparently it was torn down a couple decades ago. That was the place I learned that the Flying Bobs make me want to puke.
Rochester apparently still has
SeaBreeze amusement park, although I never went there (my parents wouldn't drive us all the way into the Big City for that).
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:17:05
Quote by Raine:
We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!
When I was a kid growing up in upstate NY, there was a place called Roseland on the northern tip of Canandaigua Lake. Apparently it was torn down a couple decades ago. That was the place I learned that the Flying Bobs make me want to puke.
Rochester apparently still has
SeaBreeze amusement park, although I never went there (my parents wouldn't drive us all the way into the Big City for that).