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Pitbull or Showdog?
Author: Raine
Date: 09/08/2008 12:30:49
Good Morning. I want to thank everyone for filling in while we were on vacation.
Last week was Sarah Palin week. Understandably so. A surprising and questionable decision for McCain. He wanted to show what a Maverick he is. He wanted to show that He could shake things up. He wanted to show that he is not part of the Washington Elite... He wanted a lot of things. I think the world is finding out a lot of things about Sarah. That is good. Right?
But I would like to get back to McCain for a moment. Let's not forget that he is the one voters elected. Not one person in America cast a vote in the primaries for Sarah Palin. Not one. She put no cracks in any ceiling as the McCain campaign would have you believe.
Republicans are crying Sexism at the very thought to question her choices. I never had a chance to choose to vote for her, nor have I had a chance to learn any more about her than the innuendo I hear around coffee shops, the internet and the radio. I am a woman who likes to make a well educated choice. I will be honest with you, I probably wouldn't vote for McCain anyway, no matter who was on the ticket, but the idea - the true idea - is to be well informed of your choices. That isn't sexist, that is being pragmatic. And truthfully, if John MCCain wants to claim that his running mate is being treated with a sexist bias, perhaps he himself should take a look at how he is treating Sarah Palin Himself. So Apparently, Sarah Palin is too fragile a woman to handle questions from the mean media? Are we supposed to believe that THIS isn't a sexist thing to do? They are keeping the little lady in the back room until the *Big Boys* she so fondly called them are ready to 'let her come out and play'? She claims to be able to run with the big boys, and THIS is what we get? She hasn't answered one friggin' question from anyone, except US Weekly and People Magazine. (both which should be on newsstands any day) If that isn't sexism, I don't know what is. They have subjugated Sarah Palin because they don't think she is strong enough to handle the media.
This campaign and this republican party suddenly are acting as tho they have the corner on feminism and they chose to show it by keeping their VP candidate - one who I haven't had a choice to get to know - in a back room until they are ready to parade her out.
I thought she was a pit bull, not a show dog.
Sarah Palin is not feminist. Sarah Palin is being treated by john McCain the same way he seems to treat all woman, with contempt. John McCain and Sarah Palin are no mavericks.
I urge you to remember that when it comes to Choice, John McCain doesn't want you to have one. It is illustrated very clearly by how he is treating Sarah Palin, and Sarah? She has no problem being told what to do by the big boys. While the Republicans try to tell you that they are the new party of Feminism, Choice and Change, I urge you to remember and remind people...
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for a woman's right to choose.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for better health care.
The Democrats have been the ones for better education.
The Democrats have been the ones to help families have a step up in life.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for civil rights.
The list goes on, but remember all of the things that Democrats have been standing for for decades are not anything CLOSE to creating people like John McCain and Sarah Palin. Don't let the Republicans try to propagate the notion that they are about choice just because they picked a female VP. Women in this country are still a majority, not John McCain and whatsername or any of the Republican party. John McCain is the one running to take away your right to choose. Sarah is just along for the ride, cause well... She is a pretty little pit bull you know.
And yes, THAT was what sexism looks like. Questioning whether or not her daughter REALLY had a choice is not. Questioning her son's motives for joining the military is not. Questioning her choices in literature is not. Questioning her budgetary discretion is not. Questioning her human resource capabilities is not.
But that won't happen until everyone starts being nice to the little lady. That is what Grampa said, and after all, He is the one running for president. Don't forget that. They are using a woman to distract us from the real and serious issues of the day, by putting lipstick on a ... well you get the idea.
:peace: and
Raine
Last week was Sarah Palin week. Understandably so. A surprising and questionable decision for McCain. He wanted to show what a Maverick he is. He wanted to show that He could shake things up. He wanted to show that he is not part of the Washington Elite... He wanted a lot of things. I think the world is finding out a lot of things about Sarah. That is good. Right?
But I would like to get back to McCain for a moment. Let's not forget that he is the one voters elected. Not one person in America cast a vote in the primaries for Sarah Palin. Not one. She put no cracks in any ceiling as the McCain campaign would have you believe.
Republicans are crying Sexism at the very thought to question her choices. I never had a chance to choose to vote for her, nor have I had a chance to learn any more about her than the innuendo I hear around coffee shops, the internet and the radio. I am a woman who likes to make a well educated choice. I will be honest with you, I probably wouldn't vote for McCain anyway, no matter who was on the ticket, but the idea - the true idea - is to be well informed of your choices. That isn't sexist, that is being pragmatic. And truthfully, if John MCCain wants to claim that his running mate is being treated with a sexist bias, perhaps he himself should take a look at how he is treating Sarah Palin Himself.
Rick Davis, campaign manager for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., just told Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace that McCain running mate Gov. Sarah Palin won't subject herself to any tough questions from reporters "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference."
Davis assailed the way the media had discussed Palin and her family in the last week and said the campaign would wait until a less hostile media environment.
This campaign and this republican party suddenly are acting as tho they have the corner on feminism and they chose to show it by keeping their VP candidate - one who I haven't had a choice to get to know - in a back room until they are ready to parade her out.
I thought she was a pit bull, not a show dog.
Sarah Palin is not feminist. Sarah Palin is being treated by john McCain the same way he seems to treat all woman, with contempt. John McCain and Sarah Palin are no mavericks.
I urge you to remember that when it comes to Choice, John McCain doesn't want you to have one. It is illustrated very clearly by how he is treating Sarah Palin, and Sarah? She has no problem being told what to do by the big boys. While the Republicans try to tell you that they are the new party of Feminism, Choice and Change, I urge you to remember and remind people...
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for a woman's right to choose.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for better health care.
The Democrats have been the ones for better education.
The Democrats have been the ones to help families have a step up in life.
The Democrats have been the ones to fight for civil rights.
The list goes on, but remember all of the things that Democrats have been standing for for decades are not anything CLOSE to creating people like John McCain and Sarah Palin. Don't let the Republicans try to propagate the notion that they are about choice just because they picked a female VP. Women in this country are still a majority, not John McCain and whatsername or any of the Republican party. John McCain is the one running to take away your right to choose. Sarah is just along for the ride, cause well... She is a pretty little pit bull you know.
And yes, THAT was what sexism looks like. Questioning whether or not her daughter REALLY had a choice is not. Questioning her son's motives for joining the military is not. Questioning her choices in literature is not. Questioning her budgetary discretion is not. Questioning her human resource capabilities is not.
But that won't happen until everyone starts being nice to the little lady. That is what Grampa said, and after all, He is the one running for president. Don't forget that. They are using a woman to distract us from the real and serious issues of the day, by putting lipstick on a ... well you get the idea.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 12:54:19
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 12:54:19
Morning 
Glad our travelers are home safe!
If McPalin won't talk to the media until they "give her some respect" how is she going to deal with countries that don't believe women to be worth the time of day?
Glad our travelers are home safe!
If McPalin won't talk to the media until they "give her some respect" how is she going to deal with countries that don't believe women to be worth the time of day?
Comment by 
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 12:54:24
Brilliant, Raine!
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 12:54:24
I thought she was a pit bull, not a show dog.
Brilliant, Raine!
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/08/2008 12:58:58
TriSec on 09/08/2008 12:58:58
Morning, comrades.
TriSec is disgruntled.
TriSec is disgruntled.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/08/2008 12:59:12
She'll bomb the f*ck out of them?
I would like to know that as well, Mala.
Raine on 09/08/2008 12:59:12
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
Glad our travelers are home safe!
If McPalin won't talk to the media until they "give her some respect" how is she going to deal with countries that don't believe women to be worth the time of day?
I would like to know that as well, Mala.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:02:14
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:02:14
For those that Missed it, Frank Rich had an amazing (once again) peice in yesterdays NYT:
[...]
The Times had it right. The McCain campaign’s claims of a “full vetting process” for Palin were as much a lie as the biographical details they’ve invented for her. There was no F.B.I. background check. The Times found no evidence that a McCain representative spoke to anyone in the State Legislature or business community. Nor did anyone talk to the fired state public safety commissioner at the center of the Palin ethics investigation. No McCain researcher even bothered to consult the relevant back issues of the Wasilla paper. Apparently when McCain said in June that his vice presidential vetting process was basically “a Google,” he wasn’t joking.
This is a roll of the dice beyond even Bill Clinton’s imagination. “Often my haste is a mistake,” McCain conceded in his 2002 memoir, “but I live with the consequences without complaint.” Well, maybe it’s fine if he wants to live with the consequences, but what about his country? Should the unexamined Palin prove unfit to serve at the pinnacle of American power, it will be too late for the rest of us to complain.
We’ve already seen where such visceral decision-making by McCain can lead. In October 2001, he speculated that Saddam Hussein might have been behind the anthrax attacks in America. That same month he out-Cheneyed Cheney in his repeated public insistence that Iraq had a role in 9/11 — even after both American and foreign intelligence services found that unlikely. He was similarly rash in his reading of the supposed evidence of Saddam’s W.M.D. and in his estimate of the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq. (McCain told MSNBC in late 2001 that we could do with fewer than 100,000.) It wasn’t until months after “Mission Accomplished” that he called for more American forces to be tossed into the bloodbath. The whole fiasco might have been prevented had he listened to those like Gen. Eric Shinseki who faulted the Rumsfeld war plan from the start.
In other words, McCain’s hasty vetting of Palin was all too reminiscent of his grave dereliction of due diligence on the war. He has been no less hasty in implying that we might somehow ride to the military rescue of Georgia (“Today, we are all Georgians”) or in reaffirming as late as December 2007 that the crumbling anti-democratic regime of Pervez Musharraf deserved “the benefit of the doubt” even as it was enabling the resurgence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. McCain’s blanket endorsement of Bush administration policy in Pakistan could have consequences for years to come.
“This election is not about issues” so much as the candidates’ images, said the McCain campaign manager, Davis, in one of the season’s most notable pronouncements.[...]
[...]
The Times had it right. The McCain campaign’s claims of a “full vetting process” for Palin were as much a lie as the biographical details they’ve invented for her. There was no F.B.I. background check. The Times found no evidence that a McCain representative spoke to anyone in the State Legislature or business community. Nor did anyone talk to the fired state public safety commissioner at the center of the Palin ethics investigation. No McCain researcher even bothered to consult the relevant back issues of the Wasilla paper. Apparently when McCain said in June that his vice presidential vetting process was basically “a Google,” he wasn’t joking.
This is a roll of the dice beyond even Bill Clinton’s imagination. “Often my haste is a mistake,” McCain conceded in his 2002 memoir, “but I live with the consequences without complaint.” Well, maybe it’s fine if he wants to live with the consequences, but what about his country? Should the unexamined Palin prove unfit to serve at the pinnacle of American power, it will be too late for the rest of us to complain.
We’ve already seen where such visceral decision-making by McCain can lead. In October 2001, he speculated that Saddam Hussein might have been behind the anthrax attacks in America. That same month he out-Cheneyed Cheney in his repeated public insistence that Iraq had a role in 9/11 — even after both American and foreign intelligence services found that unlikely. He was similarly rash in his reading of the supposed evidence of Saddam’s W.M.D. and in his estimate of the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq. (McCain told MSNBC in late 2001 that we could do with fewer than 100,000.) It wasn’t until months after “Mission Accomplished” that he called for more American forces to be tossed into the bloodbath. The whole fiasco might have been prevented had he listened to those like Gen. Eric Shinseki who faulted the Rumsfeld war plan from the start.
In other words, McCain’s hasty vetting of Palin was all too reminiscent of his grave dereliction of due diligence on the war. He has been no less hasty in implying that we might somehow ride to the military rescue of Georgia (“Today, we are all Georgians”) or in reaffirming as late as December 2007 that the crumbling anti-democratic regime of Pervez Musharraf deserved “the benefit of the doubt” even as it was enabling the resurgence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. McCain’s blanket endorsement of Bush administration policy in Pakistan could have consequences for years to come.
“This election is not about issues” so much as the candidates’ images, said the McCain campaign manager, Davis, in one of the season’s most notable pronouncements.[...]
Comment by 
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:06:49
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:06:49
morning folks... :coffee:
back to the grind...
back to the grind...
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:06:51
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:06:51
Welcome home Raine & BobR!
Yes, John McCain is some "Mavrick". And a moran.
I'm not in the media obviously but there's damn few Republicans I'm willing to show ANY respect for. And none of them are neo-con / fascist slime.
Yes, John McCain is some "Mavrick". And a moran.
I'm not in the media obviously but there's damn few Republicans I'm willing to show ANY respect for. And none of them are neo-con / fascist slime.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:07:49
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:07:49
oooOOOooo Frangela!
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:08:34
I hope you find your gruntles...
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:08:34
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
TriSec is disgruntled.
I hope you find your gruntles...
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:10:20
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:10:20
It's my understanding that Palin is going to do a sit down with Charlie Gibson "at the end of this week." i.e. 9/11, 9/12 - right after her son is deployed - so not only does ABC need to thread the needle on the sexism "meanie" charges, but they have to be courteous to her as her son goes to Iraq. Building the "Chinese Wall" up for the interview.
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:12:25
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:12:25
Coney Island to close permanently...
:(
How sad - this is a piece of Americana. I am a little surprised that some deal coudn't have been worked out (considering that Developers were involved, perhaps not too surprised). I'm just glad I got to go once.
:(
How sad - this is a piece of Americana. I am a little surprised that some deal coudn't have been worked out (considering that Developers were involved, perhaps not too surprised). I'm just glad I got to go once.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:16:37
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:16:37
Charlie Gibson... the only reporter who promised to be nice?
I won't be holding my breath about Charlie Gibson. Sorry for the cynicism, but After reading the news that KO and Chris Matthews are no longer going to be doing the News at the debates for MSNBC, after the McCain campaign complained... I am so jaded. From the NYT...
Funny, No one ever makes a stink when news moves to the right...
I won't be holding my breath about Charlie Gibson. Sorry for the cynicism, but After reading the news that KO and Chris Matthews are no longer going to be doing the News at the debates for MSNBC, after the McCain campaign complained... I am so jaded. From the NYT...
MSNBC tried a bold experiment this year by putting two politically incendiary hosts, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, in the anchor chair to lead the cable news channel’s coverage of the election.
That experiment appears to be over.
After months of accusations of political bias and simmering animosity between MSNBC and its parent network NBC, the channel decided over the weekend that the NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host David Gregory would anchor news coverage of the coming debates and election night. Mr. Olbermann and Mr. Matthews will remain as analysts during the coverage.
The change — which comes in the home stretch of the long election cycle — is a direct result of tensions associated with the channel’s perceived shift to the political left.
[...]
The McCain campaign has filed letters of complaint to the news division about its coverage and openly tied MSNBC to it. Tension between the network and the campaign hit an apex the day Mr. McCain announced Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. MSNBC had reported Friday morning that Ms. Palin’s plane was enroute to the announcement and she was likely the pick. But McCain campaign officials warned the network off, with one official going so far as to say that all of the candidates on the short list were on their way — which MSNBC then reported.
Funny, No one ever makes a stink when news moves to the right...
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:17:14
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:17:14
Great, and now we've got Frangela instead of Momma. (No knock on the Frangela, just not my kind of listening.)
I need to smash something. It's that kind of morning.
I need to smash something. It's that kind of morning.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:17:42
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:17:42
Anyone surprised?
Of course, this just gives more ammo to Rick Davis and Fox "News."
(edit - oops! -- sorry, Raine - I should have refreshed before posting...)
Of course, this just gives more ammo to Rick Davis and Fox "News."
(edit - oops! -- sorry, Raine - I should have refreshed before posting...)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:18:12
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:18:12
Quote by Shane-O:
It's my understanding that Palin is going to do a sit down with Charlie Gibson "at the end of this week." i.e. 9/11, 9/12 - right after her son is deployed - so not only does ABC need to thread the needle on the sexism "meanie" charges, but they have to be courteous to her as her son goes to Iraq. Building the "Chinese Wall" up for the interview.
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:19:16
I'm sure it'll get the Historic treatment by some group.
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:19:16
Quote by BobR:
Coney Island to close permanently...
:(
How sad - this is a piece of Americana. I am a little surprised that some deal coudn't have been worked out (considering that Developers were involved, perhaps not too surprised). I'm just glad I got to go once.
I'm sure it'll get the Historic treatment by some group.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:21:14
Yes, I know - wishful thinking.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:21:14
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:
It's my understanding that Palin is going to do a sit down with Charlie Gibson "at the end of this week." i.e. 9/11, 9/12 - right after her son is deployed - so not only does ABC need to thread the needle on the sexism "meanie" charges, but they have to be courteous to her as her son goes to Iraq. Building the "Chinese Wall" up for the interview.
I'd hope that after the pandering, Charlie will ask her about her views on the Freddie and Fannie bailouts. Also, if she were VP right now, would she advise McCain to send aid to Cuba in the wake of hurricane Ike (as they have asked for and Bush has refused)?
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
Yes, I know - wishful thinking.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:22:32
Are there going to be any other election news events?... Other than the debates and election night?
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:22:32
Quote by Shane-O:
Anyone surprised?
Of course, this just gives more ammo to Rick Davis and Fox "News."
(edit - oops! -- sorry, Raine - I should have refreshed before posting...)
Are there going to be any other election news events?... Other than the debates and election night?
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:23:03
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:23:03
pfft. Shane-O that was just another interesting take on this story.
It pisses me off. This is just more of the same manipulation and capitulation of the media.
It pisses me off. This is just more of the same manipulation and capitulation of the media.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 13:23:24
But HER son is going on 9/11™
BobR on 09/08/2008 13:23:24
Quote by wickedpam:
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
But HER son is going on 9/11™
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:28:19
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:28:19
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:29:15
so they're putting him on a plane or ship all by his lonesome?
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:29:15
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
You know Gibson won't do that. While he is a genial man, I find he too is in the right wing tool category. I have seen him "interview" O'Lielly numberous times throwing him so many lightweight questions I had to wonder if it was a T-Ball interview.
As for Palin's son being deployed, while I hope that he is safe as all our other men and women in harms way are, my mom wondered aloud why she thinks she's so special with this deployment. What about all the others - were their deplopyments not special too?
But HER son is going on 9/11™
so they're putting him on a plane or ship all by his lonesome?
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:32:05
Well, their job is clearly to make a profit - and how do they do that? - By entertaining - certainly not by informing. Who's left to actually get information to an uniformed public? - the campaigns certainly won't. Blogs? They reach only those who read them. LIV's (not you liv) will LIVE ON!
And they will do so despite the wonderful Fox, CNN and MSNBC promos lauding the democratic process.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 13:32:05
Quote by Raine:
pfft. Shane-O that was just another interesting take on this story.
It pisses me off. This is just more of the same manipulation and capitulation of the media.
Well, their job is clearly to make a profit - and how do they do that? - By entertaining - certainly not by informing. Who's left to actually get information to an uniformed public? - the campaigns certainly won't. Blogs? They reach only those who read them. LIV's (not you liv) will LIVE ON!
And they will do so despite the wonderful Fox, CNN and MSNBC promos lauding the democratic process.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:32:08
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:32:08
Why not? It's an actual child of an actual Republican going to serve.
That's rare enough on it's own merit.
That's rare enough on it's own merit.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:33:03
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 13:33:03
Just installed a new 24" monitor on my work PC. YIKES, when the desktop came up I was greeted with a gigantic picture of my cat, thought he was going to attack.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:40:49
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:40:49
I have a neighbor with a Pitbull - know what I feel when I see it out?
Not safe.
Not safe.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:41:16
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:41:16
Regarding Astroland...
Most of the "regional" theme parks around New England have long-since closed.
Paragon Park (Hull, MA)
Whalom Park (Lincoln, MA)
Rocky Point (Rhode Island)
Revere Beach (long ago).
There's only two family owned parks left....Canobie Lake (NH) and Lake Compounce (CT).
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Guess you can't make any money in the amusement park business unless you've got cartoon characters and a theme.
Most of the "regional" theme parks around New England have long-since closed.
Paragon Park (Hull, MA)
Whalom Park (Lincoln, MA)
Rocky Point (Rhode Island)
Revere Beach (long ago).
There's only two family owned parks left....Canobie Lake (NH) and Lake Compounce (CT).
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Guess you can't make any money in the amusement park business unless you've got cartoon characters and a theme.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:42:19
No dog is bad from the beginning; they only imitate their atmosphere.
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:42:19
Quote by wickedpam:
I have a neighbor with a Pitbull - know what I feel when I see it out?
Not safe.
No dog is bad from the beginning; they only imitate their atmosphere.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:45:09
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:45:09
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
I have a neighbor with a Pitbull - know what I feel when I see it out?
Not safe.
No dog is bad from the beginning; they only imitate their atmosphere.
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:54:49
TriSec on 09/08/2008 13:54:49
Is it time to sound the alarm yet?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:55:57
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 13:55:57
its the USA Today poll (I think) that people are freaking out about. Thought that was a more conservative paper anyway.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 13:58:05
We must remian vigilant, but really the key is the individual states. I Am concerned, but this is a post convention Bounce. We didn't really get that becuase of back to back conventions.
I am telling you... it is about the STATES> >>>
Raine on 09/08/2008 13:58:05
Quote by TriSec:
Is it time to sound the alarm yet?
We must remian vigilant, but really the key is the individual states. I Am concerned, but this is a post convention Bounce. We didn't really get that becuase of back to back conventions.
I am telling you... it is about the STATES> >>>
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:02:09
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:02:09
(Out of left field RANT):
I just wish that Obama would put this "breaking with your own party" meme away.
The only reason McCain is claiming to have broken with his own party is because the Republican brand is in the shitter.
Then they come back and chastise Obama for not breaking with his party. Well, since he has been in the Senate, his party has been on the better side of all the issues. Why break from what is better? Be proud - and say "no, I haven't broken from them, because the Dems have been right."
I just wish that Obama would put this "breaking with your own party" meme away.
The only reason McCain is claiming to have broken with his own party is because the Republican brand is in the shitter.
Then they come back and chastise Obama for not breaking with his party. Well, since he has been in the Senate, his party has been on the better side of all the issues. Why break from what is better? Be proud - and say "no, I haven't broken from them, because the Dems have been right."
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:02:13
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:02:13
think that list wasn't correct - I was checkout libarian.net and they noted that any of the Harry Potter books were not printed 1996.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:02:20
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:02:20
Well there it is Like Randi Rhodes says... Privatize the Profits, Socialize the losses... That is the republican way. They took over -- officially -- Fannie and Freddie.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:05:53
I've met plenty of pitbulls and they've all been big sweeties. Next time they're out, you could walk up and ask if s/he's friendly. You might end up with a face full of doggie kisses.
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:05:53
Quote by wickedpam:
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
I've met plenty of pitbulls and they've all been big sweeties. Next time they're out, you could walk up and ask if s/he's friendly. You might end up with a face full of doggie kisses.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:06:07
livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:06:07
Good morning everyone. I have a doctor's appointment at 10:45. We'll see what the results are this time.
My problem is the entire mainstream media in this country has pretty much shifted to the right. Aside from Keith and now Rachel, MSNBC can spew the same claptrap as the others. I usually end up drifting to CNN International (which hasn't turned to a crapfest like its domestic channel), BBC World or EuroNews. Now if only I could get the CBC News on a regular basis.
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
My problem is the entire mainstream media in this country has pretty much shifted to the right. Aside from Keith and now Rachel, MSNBC can spew the same claptrap as the others. I usually end up drifting to CNN International (which hasn't turned to a crapfest like its domestic channel), BBC World or EuroNews. Now if only I could get the CBC News on a regular basis.
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:07:17
knowing people that have the dog - I'd more likely get my face chewed off. They are not very nice people
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:07:17
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Still doesn't make me feel any safer around them. THere is a history with the breed unfortunatly and it's horrible they way they have been treated but they haven't come that far yet. German Shepards and Rotti's are more cordial.
I've met plenty of pitbulls and they've all been big sweeties. Next time they're out, you could walk up and ask if s/he's friendly. You might end up with a face full of doggie kisses.
knowing people that have the dog - I'd more likely get my face chewed off. They are not very nice people
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:07:25
Well, big business apparently liked that. Dow is up 200 points at this hour.
[There is still that part of me that wants to see the market tank.....knowing full well my own retirement would be affected.]
TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:07:25
Quote by Raine:
Well there it is Like Randi Rhodes says... Privatize the Profits, Socialize the losses... That is the republican way. They took over -- officially -- Fannie and Freddie.
Well, big business apparently liked that. Dow is up 200 points at this hour.
[There is still that part of me that wants to see the market tank.....knowing full well my own retirement would be affected.]
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:07:47
I posted it late last night on the blog. The Palin book banning list being circulated around is bogus. It's actually a list of ALL books that people have tried to ban through the years, not books that she specifically tried to ban.
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:07:47
Quote by wickedpam:
think that list wasn't correct - I was checkout libarian.net and they noted that any of the Harry Potter books were not printed 1996.
I posted it late last night on the blog. The Palin book banning list being circulated around is bogus. It's actually a list of ALL books that people have tried to ban through the years, not books that she specifically tried to ban.
Comment by 
starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:08:04
starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:08:04
Good morning all! 
Welcome back BoRaine!
Raine, great post!
Tonight is Rachel Maddow Night!!!
:scans blog:
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
Welcome back BoRaine!
Raine, great post!
Tonight is Rachel Maddow Night!!!
:scans blog:
Quote by TriSec:
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:09:31
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:09:31
REgarding the Independents... I believe that when Palin was chosen, the independents were basically told by the republicans to take a hike.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:11:08
We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:11:08
Quote by starling310:
Good morning all!Quote by TriSec:
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:11:13
There's an amusement park in north GA still open called Lake Winnepesaukah. I believe it is still family owned, but I don't know for sure.
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:11:13
Quote by TriSec:
Regarding Astroland...
Most of the "regional" theme parks around New England have long-since closed.
Paragon Park (Hull, MA)
Whalom Park (Lincoln, MA)
Rocky Point (Rhode Island)
Revere Beach (long ago).
There's only two family owned parks left....Canobie Lake (NH) and Lake Compounce (CT).
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Guess you can't make any money in the amusement park business unless you've got cartoon characters and a theme.
There's an amusement park in north GA still open called Lake Winnepesaukah. I believe it is still family owned, but I don't know for sure.
Comment by starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:12:20
My family took me and my brother every summer! The night before we'd go, I wouldn't be able to sleep!!!!
starling310 on 09/08/2008 14:12:20
Quote by Raine:We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!Quote by starling310:
Good morning all!Quote by TriSec:
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Oh man! Many fond memories of RIVERSIDE!
My family took me and my brother every summer! The night before we'd go, I wouldn't be able to sleep!!!!
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:12:29
And the upper class whines about THIER taxes being a transfer of wealth.
As productivity of the American worker has gone up, wages have gone down. THAT's a transfer of wealth.
As the government prints money to pay its debts, leading to inflation (the most regressive of taxes) - THAT's a transfer of weath.
As the government shifts risk from corporations to the taxpayer - THAT's a transfer of wealth.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:12:29
Quote by Raine:
Well there it is Like Randi Rhodes says... Privatize the Profits, Socialize the losses... That is the republican way. They took over -- officially -- Fannie and Freddie.
And the upper class whines about THIER taxes being a transfer of wealth.
As productivity of the American worker has gone up, wages have gone down. THAT's a transfer of wealth.
As the government prints money to pay its debts, leading to inflation (the most regressive of taxes) - THAT's a transfer of weath.
As the government shifts risk from corporations to the taxpayer - THAT's a transfer of wealth.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:13:40
How is it that he can just move the elections?
Sarah Palin is a pentacostal. We do not need to go to the dominionisting of Sarah Palin now.
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:13:40
Quote by livingonli:
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
Sarah Palin is a pentacostal. We do not need to go to the dominionisting of Sarah Palin now.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:14:37
I disagree - Palin will sure up the far-Right. Now McCain can go out and hunt Independents without fear of losing the far-Right. They are now goose-stepping behind her and won't hear McCain's "moderate" message. His interview on Face the Nation yesterday was the McCain of 2000.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:14:37
Quote by Raine:
REgarding the Independents... I believe that when Palin was chosen, the independents were basically told by the republicans to take a hike.
I disagree - Palin will sure up the far-Right. Now McCain can go out and hunt Independents without fear of losing the far-Right. They are now goose-stepping behind her and won't hear McCain's "moderate" message. His interview on Face the Nation yesterday was the McCain of 2000.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:15:59
hhmmmm - Holy Rollers freak me out, personally
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:15:59
Quote by Raine:How is it that he can just move the elections?Quote by livingonli:
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
Sarah Palin is a pentacostal. We do not need to go to the dominionisting of Sarah Palin now.
hhmmmm - Holy Rollers freak me out, personally
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:17:05
When I was a kid growing up in upstate NY, there was a place called Roseland on the northern tip of Canandaigua Lake. Apparently it was torn down a couple decades ago. That was the place I learned that the Flying Bobs make me want to puke.
Rochester apparently still has
SeaBreeze amusement park, although I never went there (my parents wouldn't drive us all the way into the Big City for that).
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:17:05
Quote by Raine:
We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!
When I was a kid growing up in upstate NY, there was a place called Roseland on the northern tip of Canandaigua Lake. Apparently it was torn down a couple decades ago. That was the place I learned that the Flying Bobs make me want to puke.
Rochester apparently still has
SeaBreeze amusement park, although I never went there (my parents wouldn't drive us all the way into the Big City for that).
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:19:52
OMG! -- Roseland! -- I went there as a kid! (They now have Roseland Waterpark, I think).
Yes, SeaBreeze is still up there in Irondequoit!!!
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:19:52
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!
When I was a kid growing up in upstate NY, there was a place called Roseland on the northern tip of Canandaigua Lake. Apparently it was torn down a couple decades ago. That was the place I learned that the Flying Bobs make me want to puke.
Rochester apparently still has
SeaBreeze amusement park, although I never went there (my parents wouldn't drive us all the way into the Big City for that).
OMG! -- Roseland! -- I went there as a kid! (They now have Roseland Waterpark, I think).
Yes, SeaBreeze is still up there in Irondequoit!!!
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:21:09
Canada being a parliamentary system like the UK. The Prime Minister can call election any time during the 5-year term as well as be brought down by a no confidence vote. There are supposedly some scandals brewing for Harper and the Tories and he decided to call the election now rather than be forced through a no confidence vote thinking that he can coast in with a majority since the current Liberal Party leadership is seen as weak.
livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:21:09
Quote by Raine:How is it that he can just move the elections?Quote by livingonli:
My nightmare scenario would be a Harper Tory majority in the Canadian election on October 14th followed by Grampy McSame winning (or stealing) the election here. Well then, I better brush up on my Spanish so I can go to Costa Rica.
Canada being a parliamentary system like the UK. The Prime Minister can call election any time during the 5-year term as well as be brought down by a no confidence vote. There are supposedly some scandals brewing for Harper and the Tories and he decided to call the election now rather than be forced through a no confidence vote thinking that he can coast in with a majority since the current Liberal Party leadership is seen as weak.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:21:52
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:21:52
an "empty updo" I like it :p
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:22:29
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:22:29
McCain Gets BarackRoll'd... 
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 14:22:45
:clap:
I am TOTALLY stealing this...
BobR on 09/08/2008 14:22:45
Quote by Shane-O:
And the upper class whines about THIER taxes being a transfer of wealth.
As productivity of the American worker has gone up, wages have gone down. THAT's a transfer of wealth.
As the government prints money to pay its debts, leading to inflation (the most regressive of taxes) - THAT's a transfer of weath.
As the government shifts risk from corporations to the taxpayer - THAT's a transfer of wealth.
:clap:
I am TOTALLY stealing this...
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:24:35
livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:24:35
Adventureland is still open.
I used to go there quite often as a kid along with Nunley's in Baldwin which also had a miniature golf course. Nunley's is gone but the carousel was declared a landmark.
I used to go there quite often as a kid along with Nunley's in Baldwin which also had a miniature golf course. Nunley's is gone but the carousel was declared a landmark.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:25:21
TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:25:21
Heh. Riverside used to be an annual Labor Day weekend trip for us, too!
(so, have we all been subconsciously linked since childhood?)
I haven't been since it became Six Flags, though.
(so, have we all been subconsciously linked since childhood?)
I haven't been since it became Six Flags, though.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:27:55
TriSec on 09/08/2008 14:27:55
Of course, my hometown has this guy, familiar to anyone who has driven Route 1 North of Boston.....
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:28:52
That's hysterical! :spit:
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:28:52
Quote by Raine:
McCain Gets BarackRoll'd...
That's hysterical! :spit:
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:28:55
And just remember, BobR - that "Big City" - the Rochester Metropolitan Area - has a larger population than the entire State of Alaska...
Maybe Mayor Bob Duffy or Monroe County Executive Maggie Brooks are ready to be the Vice President of the United States?
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 14:28:55
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
We used to go to Riverside every year as the end of school field trips in high school. I remember Riverside!
When I was a kid growing up in upstate NY, there was a place called Roseland on the northern tip of Canandaigua Lake. Apparently it was torn down a couple decades ago. That was the place I learned that the Flying Bobs make me want to puke.
Rochester apparently still has
SeaBreeze amusement park, although I never went there (my parents wouldn't drive us all the way into the Big City for that).
And just remember, BobR - that "Big City" - the Rochester Metropolitan Area - has a larger population than the entire State of Alaska...
Maybe Mayor Bob Duffy or Monroe County Executive Maggie Brooks are ready to be the Vice President of the United States?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 14:32:09
We tried to schedule our visits to when they had the demolition derbies or the Figure-8's
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 14:32:09
Quote by TriSec:
Heh. Riverside used to be an annual Labor Day weekend trip for us, too!
(so, have we all been subconsciously linked since childhood?)
I haven't been since it became Six Flags, though.
We tried to schedule our visits to when they had the demolition derbies or the Figure-8's
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:36:15
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:36:15
Great Kos Diary...
It's Titled "White People, Can We talk?" and it really helped me put a few things into perspective. Yeah, I am nervous, but I am still vigilant.
It's Titled "White People, Can We talk?" and it really helped me put a few things into perspective. Yeah, I am nervous, but I am still vigilant.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:37:23
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:37:23
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 14:38:38
Raine on 09/08/2008 14:38:38
Thank you FRANGELA!
This is some of what I am trying to say in the blog today... They are taking away the right to make an informed decision regarding the VP selection.
This is some of what I am trying to say in the blog today... They are taking away the right to make an informed decision regarding the VP selection.
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:46:17
livingonli on 09/08/2008 14:46:17
Ok, time for me to head off to the doctor's.
Raine, did you see my link to Adventureland? I thought maybe you might have went there.
Raine, did you see my link to Adventureland? I thought maybe you might have went there.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:49:01
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 14:49:01
Good Luck Liv! :hug:
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 14:50:05
trojanrabbit on 09/08/2008 14:50:05
See you later, liv. Good luck.
Comment by 
clintster on 09/08/2008 14:52:31
clintster on 09/08/2008 14:52:31
Mornin' everbody. 10 days to showtime!
When I was growing up in the mountains of NC, there was a small amusement park near us called Tweetsie Railroad. It was built around a 3-mile long steam train ride, and also had a carousel, ferris wheel, chairlift, and other amusements. It was looking to be endangered a few years ago due to greedy developers, but it appears to be safe for now. 51 years and still going strong.
Tweetsie Railroad
When I was growing up in the mountains of NC, there was a small amusement park near us called Tweetsie Railroad. It was built around a 3-mile long steam train ride, and also had a carousel, ferris wheel, chairlift, and other amusements. It was looking to be endangered a few years ago due to greedy developers, but it appears to be safe for now. 51 years and still going strong.
Tweetsie Railroad
Comment by clintster on 09/08/2008 14:53:08
clintster on 09/08/2008 14:53:08
Liv, good luck at the doctor's.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 15:13:45
Raine on 09/08/2008 15:13:45
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 15:14:32
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 15:14:32
How can you be a "breath of fresh air" when you tow the right wing extremist party line?
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 15:14:57
Raine on 09/08/2008 15:14:57
:yadda:
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 15:15:51
She looks fresh... and Clean... and Young and hot.
Raine on 09/08/2008 15:15:51
Quote by wickedpam:
How can you be a "breath of fresh air" when you tow the right wing extremist party line?
She looks fresh... and Clean... and Young and hot.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 15:18:16
so she's a Clearasil girl?
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 15:18:16
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
How can you be a "breath of fresh air" when you tow the right wing extremist party line?
She looks fresh... and Clean... and Young and hot.
so she's a Clearasil girl?
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/08/2008 15:24:25
There's also Lake Quassy out in Woodbury CT..
Scoopster on 09/08/2008 15:24:25
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Regarding Astroland...
Most of the "regional" theme parks around New England have long-since closed.
Paragon Park (Hull, MA)
Whalom Park (Lincoln, MA)
Rocky Point (Rhode Island)
Revere Beach (long ago).
There's only two family owned parks left....Canobie Lake (NH) and Lake Compounce (CT).
And of course, Six Flags NE (Springfield), which used to be the locally-owned Riverside Park before they sold out.
Guess you can't make any money in the amusement park business unless you've got cartoon characters and a theme.
There's an amusement park in north GA still open called Lake Winnepesaukah. I believe it is still family owned, but I don't know for sure.
There's also Lake Quassy out in Woodbury CT..
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2008 15:26:15
Scoopster on 09/08/2008 15:26:15
Btw mornin' guys! :hug:
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 15:27:37
BobR on 09/08/2008 15:27:37
Father and son rescued from Atlantic after treading water for 12 hrs
wow.
That's called determination and not panicking...
wow.
That's called determination and not panicking...
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 15:27:44
TriSec on 09/08/2008 15:27:44
No joy here today
tedium and no respect
where has this job gone?
:kickcan:
tedium and no respect
where has this job gone?
:kickcan:
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 15:32:36
BobR on 09/08/2008 15:32:36
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 15:33:05
Nice haiku...
BobR on 09/08/2008 15:33:05
Quote by TriSec:
No joy here today
tedium and no respect
where has this job gone?
:kickcan:
Nice haiku...
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2008 15:34:33
Scoopster on 09/08/2008 15:34:33
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 15:36:28
Raine on 09/08/2008 15:36:28
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 15:38:27
Or as the newly-minted Right-Wing "feminists" say:
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 15:38:27
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
How can you be a "breath of fresh air" when you tow the right wing extremist party line?
She looks fresh... and Clean... and Young and hot.
Or as the newly-minted Right-Wing "feminists" say:
Comment by 
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 15:44:45
Mornin' Liv, Raine, BobR, Scoop, Mala, Shane-O, Tri, Star, Paul, & Clintster (hope I didn't forget anybody who's on the bloggie this morning),
Hope you all had a great weekend - I am sooooo very frustrated by this "Palin is breath of fresh air" meme.
Won't people wake up? Here is a hero of mine Laura Flanders on Palin. I really don't want to move, but I can't live in a country that is run by McRage and Caribou Barbie :P
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 15:44:45
Quote by livingonli:
Ok, time for me to head off to the doctor's.
Raine, did you see my link to Adventureland? I thought maybe you might have went there.
Mornin' Liv, Raine, BobR, Scoop, Mala, Shane-O, Tri, Star, Paul, & Clintster (hope I didn't forget anybody who's on the bloggie this morning),
Hope you all had a great weekend - I am sooooo very frustrated by this "Palin is breath of fresh air" meme.
Won't people wake up? Here is a hero of mine Laura Flanders on Palin. I really don't want to move, but I can't live in a country that is run by McRage and Caribou Barbie :PCheers,
mfaye :hug:
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 15:45:40
You are evil!!! :rofl:
ok - after trying several times, I couldn't get the embed to work.
BobR on 09/08/2008 15:45:40
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh no.. the internets have done it again..
http://www.morecowbell.dj/
You are evil!!! :rofl:
ok - after trying several times, I couldn't get the embed to work.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 15:47:18
TriSec on 09/08/2008 15:47:18
Jim Hightower for today:
John McCain might love America, in the abstract, but he clearly has little regard for us Americans, in the here and now.
That’s the message that he sent with his choice of Sarah Palin to be Vice President of the United States. Sure, the VP job itself doesn’t require much heavy lifting, but it’s the job-to-come that makes one’s nominee a momentous selection, since 300 million people who might suddenly find this person sitting in the biggest office in America. Being 72 years of age and having a history of health problems, McCain had a special responsibility to choose the best to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. He flubbed it.
This is not about Palin and her readiness for prime-time speechmaking. It’s about McCain’s fitness to be president. The decision on a running mate is the most telling one that a presidential candidate makes, and McCain made his impetuously, almost flippantly.
He wanted his senate buddy, Joe Lieberman, to run with him, but he was denied that choice by the angry right wing of his party. So, at the last minute, he seemed to say, what the hell, how about that lady governor in Alaska? He had not even met Palin until this year. He knew no details about her and had not been considering her at all seriously. Then, at loggerheads with the Republican right and with his nominating convention looming, McCain had to rush her through a cursory background check only 24 hours before he had his first face-to-face meeting with her, which was the same day he hastily up offered the vice-presidency. The vice-presidency!
McCain would have given more thought to picking out another house for himself than he did in picking Sarah Palin. Such recklessness reveals a stunning lack of judgment and shows what little respect he has for the American public. His responsibility was not just to find a political running mate who appeals to the Republican base, but someone who is capable of stepping into the Oval Office as President of the United States.
“Palin Disclosures Spotlight McCain’s Screening Process,” The New York Times, September 2, 2008.
John McCain might love America, in the abstract, but he clearly has little regard for us Americans, in the here and now.
That’s the message that he sent with his choice of Sarah Palin to be Vice President of the United States. Sure, the VP job itself doesn’t require much heavy lifting, but it’s the job-to-come that makes one’s nominee a momentous selection, since 300 million people who might suddenly find this person sitting in the biggest office in America. Being 72 years of age and having a history of health problems, McCain had a special responsibility to choose the best to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. He flubbed it.
This is not about Palin and her readiness for prime-time speechmaking. It’s about McCain’s fitness to be president. The decision on a running mate is the most telling one that a presidential candidate makes, and McCain made his impetuously, almost flippantly.
He wanted his senate buddy, Joe Lieberman, to run with him, but he was denied that choice by the angry right wing of his party. So, at the last minute, he seemed to say, what the hell, how about that lady governor in Alaska? He had not even met Palin until this year. He knew no details about her and had not been considering her at all seriously. Then, at loggerheads with the Republican right and with his nominating convention looming, McCain had to rush her through a cursory background check only 24 hours before he had his first face-to-face meeting with her, which was the same day he hastily up offered the vice-presidency. The vice-presidency!
McCain would have given more thought to picking out another house for himself than he did in picking Sarah Palin. Such recklessness reveals a stunning lack of judgment and shows what little respect he has for the American public. His responsibility was not just to find a political running mate who appeals to the Republican base, but someone who is capable of stepping into the Oval Office as President of the United States.
“Palin Disclosures Spotlight McCain’s Screening Process,” The New York Times, September 2, 2008.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 15:47:51
Raine on 09/08/2008 15:47:51
Palin secret Emails... I found this part VERY interesting... And I am off to check that bloggers site...
But more intriguing than any email correspondence contained in the four boxes was what was not released: about 1100 emails. Palin's office provided McLeod with a 78-page list (PDF) cataloging the emails it was withholding. Many of them had been written by Palin or sent to her. Palin's office claimed most of the undisclosed emails were exempt from release because they were covered by the "executive" or "deliberative process" privileges that protect communications between Palin and her aides about policy matters. But the subject lines of some of the withheld emails suggest they were not related to policy matters. Several refer to one of Palin's political foes, others to a well-known Alaskan journalist. Moreover, some of the withhold emails were CC'ed to Todd Palin, the governor's husband. Todd Palin—a.k.a. the First Dude—holds no official state position (though he has been a close and influential adviser for Governor Palin). The fact that Palin and her aides shared these emails with a citizen outside the government undercuts the claim that they must be protected under executive privilege. McLeod asks, "What is Sarah Palin hiding?"
The list of still-secret emails includes a series of messages that circulated on February 1, 2008, among Palin, Bailey, Frye, and Todd Palin "re Andrew Halcro." A former Republican, Halcro ran as an independent against Palin for governor in 2006, collecting only 9 percent of the vote. Since then he has been a blogger who often criticizes Palin. There is no telling what the emails said about Halcro. But in a July blog posting, Halcro asked, "why in the world is Todd Palin getting copied on emails [about me] that his wife's administration is classifying as confidential....These emails should be released to the public....after all Todd Palin has no standing to claim executive privilege. By including him in the email loop, the Palin administration has arguably breached any claim of executive privilege." And McLeod wonders, "What do emails about Andrew Halcro have to do with policy deliberations?"
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 15:48:03
Exactly - wake up!
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 15:48:03
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by livingonli:
Ok, time for me to head off to the doctor's.
Raine, did you see my link to Adventureland? I thought maybe you might have went there.
Mornin' Liv, Raine, BobR, Scoop, Mala, Shane-O, Tri, Star, Paul, & Clintster (hope I didn't forget anybody who's on the bloggie this morning),
Hope you all had a great weekend - I am sooooo very frustrated by this "Palin is breath of fresh air" meme.
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Exactly - wake up!
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 15:50:06
Raine on 09/08/2008 15:50:06
Interesting...
Why is Todd Sitting in on meeting in the Governopurs office in Alaska? What is going on?
Why is Todd Sitting in on meeting in the Governopurs office in Alaska? What is going on?
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 15:54:48
That SO ROCKS! :rofl:
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 15:54:48
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh no.. the internets have done it again..
http://www.morecowbell.dj/
That SO ROCKS! :rofl:
Comment by m-hadley on 09/08/2008 15:58:05
Right on Shane-O,
Does anybody know if Rebz is off this week? I've tried to call in, but have only gotten a busy signal.
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my fundamentalist Mom and my Barry-Goldwater Republican Dad who are coming to Tulsa to help me celebrate my birthday this weekend - I ain't taking down my Obama yard signs or my Obama poster in my living room (never mind my bumper stickers :P). So we should have some interesting discussions !!! 
:fbump:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 15:58:05
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by livingonli:
Ok, time for me to head off to the doctor's.
Raine, did you see my link to Adventureland? I thought maybe you might have went there.
Mornin' Liv, Raine, BobR, Scoop, Mala, Shane-O, Tri, Star, Paul, & Clintster (hope I didn't forget anybody who's on the bloggie this morning),
Hope you all had a great weekend - I am sooooo very frustrated by this "Palin is breath of fresh air" meme.
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
Exactly - wake up!
Right on Shane-O,
Does anybody know if Rebz is off this week? I've tried to call in, but have only gotten a busy signal.
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my fundamentalist Mom and my Barry-Goldwater Republican Dad who are coming to Tulsa to help me celebrate my birthday this weekend - I ain't taking down my Obama yard signs or my Obama poster in my living room (never mind my bumper stickers :P). So we should have some interesting discussions !!! :fbump:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by starling310 on 09/08/2008 15:58:09
starling310 on 09/08/2008 15:58:09
I'm suprised that the wRight didn't have their convention this week.
If they had, John McCain would've been giving his acceptance speech on 9/11
If they had, John McCain would've been giving his acceptance speech on 9/11
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 15:59:07
Shane-O, I just sent you an email...
Raine on 09/08/2008 15:59:07
Quote by Raine:
Interesting...
Why is Todd Sitting in on meeting in the Governopurs office in Alaska? What is going on?
Shane-O, I just sent you an email...
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 15:59:26
Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 15:59:26
Hello all. Lunch time at geek school. After lunch, a lab. I will be loading SQL server 2005 and configuring it. Sounds like fun!
Comment by 
Random on 09/08/2008 16:00:01
Random on 09/08/2008 16:00:01
Now, I hope the almighty 4F overlords aren't too mad at me making another blog, but I've had a lot on my mind, and needed a place to get it out, and well, this is the only place...Sorry...
Myths of Young Voters
Myths of Young Voters
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 16:03:31
I've heard of it, of course when we were in that part of NC on vaction one year my brother and I were denied! Bummer.
Against all odds, Seaworld is still hanging in there just down the superslab from moi!
Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 16:03:31
Quote by clintster:
Mornin' everbody. 10 days to showtime!
When I was growing up in the mountains of NC, there was a small amusement park near us called Tweetsie Railroad. It was built around a 3-mile long steam train ride, and also had a carousel, ferris wheel, chairlift, and other amusements. It was looking to be endangered a few years ago due to greedy developers, but it appears to be safe for now. 51 years and still going strong.
Tweetsie Railroad
I've heard of it, of course when we were in that part of NC on vaction one year my brother and I were denied! Bummer.
Against all odds, Seaworld is still hanging in there just down the superslab from moi!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:08:31
I enjoyed Seaworld the one time I went. Also liked
Circus World very much
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:08:31
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by clintster:
Mornin' everbody. 10 days to showtime!
When I was growing up in the mountains of NC, there was a small amusement park near us called Tweetsie Railroad. It was built around a 3-mile long steam train ride, and also had a carousel, ferris wheel, chairlift, and other amusements. It was looking to be endangered a few years ago due to greedy developers, but it appears to be safe for now. 51 years and still going strong.
Tweetsie Railroad
I've heard of it, of course when we were in that part of NC on vaction one year my brother and I were denied! Bummer.
Against all odds, Seaworld is still hanging in there just down the superslab from moi!
I enjoyed Seaworld the one time I went. Also liked
Circus World very much
Comment by m-hadley on 09/08/2008 16:14:07
G'Day Mr. Mondo,
Sounds like Geek school is a barrel of minkees :P
Have a good one!
Cheers,
mfaye :dance:
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 16:14:07
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hello all. Lunch time at geek school. After lunch, a lab. I will be loading SQL server 2005 and configuring it. Sounds like fun!
G'Day Mr. Mondo,
Sounds like Geek school is a barrel of minkees :P
Have a good one!
Cheers,
mfaye :dance:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:17:52
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:17:52
Dammit! Now Thom is freaking me out! 
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 16:20:50
Author: Random Date: 9/8/2008 11:58:58 AM
You were one minute and two seconds too early there, youngling!
It's all good...
TriSec on 09/08/2008 16:20:50
Quote by Random:
Now, I hope the almighty 4F overlords aren't too mad at me making another blog, but I've had a lot on my mind, and needed a place to get it out, and well, this is the only place...Sorry...
Myths of Young Voters
Author: Random Date: 9/8/2008 11:58:58 AM
You were one minute and two seconds too early there, youngling!
It's all good...
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 16:30:40
The class is two people. Me and another guy. So I am close to my achieving my goal of having Socratic dialogs instead of Aristotlian lectures. :drops 16 tonne collected works of Greek philosphers on head:
Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 16:30:40
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Mondobubba:
Hello all. Lunch time at geek school. After lunch, a lab. I will be loading SQL server 2005 and configuring it. Sounds like fun!
G'Day Mr. Mondo,
Sounds like Geek school is a barrel of minkees :P
Have a good one!
Cheers,
mfaye :dance:
The class is two people. Me and another guy. So I am close to my achieving my goal of having Socratic dialogs instead of Aristotlian lectures. :drops 16 tonne collected works of Greek philosphers on head:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:31:39
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:31:39
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 16:34:25
livingonli on 09/08/2008 16:34:25
Ok, I'm back. I did lose 3 1/2 pounds and my blood sugar numbers are getting better. Hope, it's a start in the right direction. Then I had to get a blood test before I see the endocrinologist tomorrow.
And now it's time for me to catch up on stuff.
And now it's time for me to catch up on stuff.
Comment by starling310 on 09/08/2008 16:37:16
Replacing them with David Gregory. What a shocker...f*ckin' sell out!
starling310 on 09/08/2008 16:37:16
Quote by Mondobubba:
KO is out as an anchor for campaign coverage.
Replacing them with David Gregory. What a shocker...f*ckin' sell out!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:37:50
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:37:50
Way to got Liv!
Comment by starling310 on 09/08/2008 16:40:26
starling310 on 09/08/2008 16:40:26
Ya know what I found interesting this weekend? USA network showed Air Force One, which features Glenn Close as a FEMALE VICE PRESIDENT followed by United 93 which features 9/11! I thought "hm, is this deliberate?"
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 16:40:41
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 16:40:41
Raine - I sent you the docs you requested.
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 16:43:20
If it weren't for Keith and Rachel, there would be nothing left to watch on that channel. Why does everyone cave-in to the foxification of the news networks?
livingonli on 09/08/2008 16:43:20
Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
KO is out as an anchor for campaign coverage.
Replacing them with David Gregory. What a shocker...f*ckin' sell out!
If it weren't for Keith and Rachel, there would be nothing left to watch on that channel. Why does everyone cave-in to the foxification of the news networks?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 16:52:08
Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 16:52:08
Just because Shane-O added it I have to say this:
Todd is my instructor this week, so what does that mean?
Todd is my instructor this week, so what does that mean?
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 16:52:22
I'm confused, but okay.
Random on 09/08/2008 16:52:22
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Now, I hope the almighty 4F overlords aren't too mad at me making another blog, but I've had a lot on my mind, and needed a place to get it out, and well, this is the only place...Sorry...
Myths of Young Voters
Author: Random Date: 9/8/2008 11:58:58 AM
You were one minute and two seconds too early there, youngling!
It's all good...
I'm confused, but okay.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:52:41
I was wondering why 93 popped up all of a sudden. Didn't think it was the kinda movie USA would show.
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 16:52:41
Quote by starling310:
Ya know what I found interesting this weekend? USA network showed Air Force One, which features Glenn Close as a FEMALE VICE PRESIDENT followed by United 93 which features 9/11! I thought "hm, is this deliberate?"
I was wondering why 93 popped up all of a sudden. Didn't think it was the kinda movie USA would show.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 16:57:16
New bloggies (past the main morning thread) at 12 noon EST or after... I had to ask way back (all of three months ago) too... ;)
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 16:57:16
Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Now, I hope the almighty 4F overlords aren't too mad at me making another blog, but I've had a lot on my mind, and needed a place to get it out, and well, this is the only place...Sorry...
Myths of Young Voters
Author: Random Date: 9/8/2008 11:58:58 AM
You were one minute and two seconds too early there, youngling!
It's all good...
I'm confused, but okay.
New bloggies (past the main morning thread) at 12 noon EST or after... I had to ask way back (all of three months ago) too... ;)
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 16:59:39
Really? WEll, information Logged.
Random on 09/08/2008 16:59:39
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Now, I hope the almighty 4F overlords aren't too mad at me making another blog, but I've had a lot on my mind, and needed a place to get it out, and well, this is the only place...Sorry...
Myths of Young Voters
Author: Random Date: 9/8/2008 11:58:58 AM
You were one minute and two seconds too early there, youngling!
It's all good...
I'm confused, but okay.
New bloggies (past the main morning thread) at 12 noon EST or after... I had to ask way back (all of three months ago) too... ;)
Really? WEll, information Logged.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:01:54
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:01:54
Well - USA Network is owned by NBC Universal which is apparently owner by GE (80%) and Vivendi (20%) according to the Wiki ( so take with grain of salt)
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:04:58
That is true. The NBC family of networks includes besides CNBC, MSNBC, CNBC World, and Telemundo. The channels acquired from the Universal buyout like USA and Sci-Fi. Trio was relaunched as Sleuth. And not to mention other acquisitions like Bravo (from Cablevision) and Oxygen (from Oprah).
livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:04:58
Quote by wickedpam:
Well - USA Network is owned by NBC Universal which is apparently owner by GE (80%) and Vivendi (20%) according to the Wiki ( so take with grain of salt)
That is true. The NBC family of networks includes besides CNBC, MSNBC, CNBC World, and Telemundo. The channels acquired from the Universal buyout like USA and Sci-Fi. Trio was relaunched as Sleuth. And not to mention other acquisitions like Bravo (from Cablevision) and Oxygen (from Oprah).
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:10:39
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:10:39
Who are these people he's refering too - Sally Quinn? JOhn Roberts? That name sounds familiar but I couldn't pick him out of a line up.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:12:01
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:12:01
what were the earmarks for?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:13:20
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:13:20
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:15:07
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:15:07
and again 
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:15:14
I'm trying to remember where Sally Quinn works but I know John Roberts works at CNN and previously worked at CBS. He was rumored to be in line for the anchor job but he bolted when Katie Couric got the job instead. And for trivia note, in the 80's John (then J.D) Roberts was one of the first VJ's on Canada's MuchMusic channel.
Right-wing tool, it is the hypocrisy, stupid.
livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:15:14
Quote by wickedpam:
Who are these people he's refering too - Sally Quinn? JOhn Roberts? That name sounds familiar but I couldn't pick him out of a line up.
I'm trying to remember where Sally Quinn works but I know John Roberts works at CNN and previously worked at CBS. He was rumored to be in line for the anchor job but he bolted when Katie Couric got the job instead. And for trivia note, in the 80's John (then J.D) Roberts was one of the first VJ's on Canada's MuchMusic channel.
Right-wing tool, it is the hypocrisy, stupid.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:15:35
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:15:35
No the Coast Guard recused people!
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 17:15:52
Raine on 09/08/2008 17:15:52
Holy crap... this guy is killing me.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:16:22
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:16:22
AARRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thud:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:17:30
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:17:30
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:17:58
livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:17:58
Must...not...deviate...from...talking...points...script.
Facts have a liberal bias.
Facts have a liberal bias.
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:18:43
livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:18:43
:pirate: 
<----- right-wing tool.
<----- right-wing tool.
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 17:20:30
Which earmarks are you referring to, Mala? (I'm not listening to the show - don't get it here)
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 17:20:30
Quote by wickedpam:
what were the earmarks for?
Which earmarks are you referring to, Mala? (I'm not listening to the show - don't get it here)
Comment by m-hadley on 09/08/2008 17:21:45
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 17:21:45
Heya Kids,
Here's the Native lowdown on Palin (whose husband, TODD, has Inuit/Eskimo heritage on his mother's side). Check it out (from one of my favorite poets and a damn fine sax player - Joy Harjo). Needless to say, Sarah Palin is no friend to Native Alaskans :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance: & :peace:
Here's the Native lowdown on Palin (whose husband, TODD, has Inuit/Eskimo heritage on his mother's side). Check it out (from one of my favorite poets and a damn fine sax player - Joy Harjo). Needless to say, Sarah Palin is no friend to Native Alaskans :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance: & :peace:
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 17:23:04
Good stuff!
I took the liberty of posting this on the board... ;)
BobR on 09/08/2008 17:23:04
Quote by livingonli:
Sarah Palin's 9 most disturbing beliefs.
Good stuff!
I took the liberty of posting this on the board... ;)
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:29:43
livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:29:43
If McCain has a 10-point lead than the American people are on crack. Didn't they learn from 8 years of Bush?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:31:38
frickin' doofus on with THom was talking about Obama wanting earmarks for his district. Some earmarks aren't as bad as they sound. The ones Palin wanted did sound just like spending for spending sake. i wanted to know what what Obama earmarking money for compared to what Palin was.
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:31:38
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by wickedpam:
what were the earmarks for?
Which earmarks are you referring to, Mala? (I'm not listening to the show - don't get it here)
frickin' doofus on with THom was talking about Obama wanting earmarks for his district. Some earmarks aren't as bad as they sound. The ones Palin wanted did sound just like spending for spending sake. i wanted to know what what Obama earmarking money for compared to what Palin was.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:35:47
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:35:47
Hey Faye - your down there in the southwest and work in the Native American field, US and other wise, do you know of any good sites that would give me info the designs used in Day of the Dead skulls?
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2008 17:36:51
I wouldn't believe that shit for a moment. These polls this year are extremely suspect.
Scoopster on 09/08/2008 17:36:51
Quote by livingonli:
If McCain has a 10-point lead than the American people are on crack. Didn't they learn from 8 years of Bush?
I wouldn't believe that shit for a moment. These polls this year are extremely suspect.
Comment by m-hadley on 09/08/2008 17:41:50
Mala,
I'll send you some site via e-mail - okay?
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 17:41:50
Quote by wickedpam:
Hey Faye - your down there in the southwest and work in the Native American field, US and other wise, do you know of any good sites that would give me info the designs used in Day of the Dead skulls?
Mala,
I'll send you some site via e-mail - okay?
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:43:03
Yeah! Cool Beans! You got my email right?
snotra@comtekmail.com
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:43:03
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:
Hey Faye - your down there in the southwest and work in the Native American field, US and other wise, do you know of any good sites that would give me info the designs used in Day of the Dead skulls?
Mala,
I'll send you some site via e-mail - okay?
Cheers,
mfaye
Yeah! Cool Beans! You got my email right?
snotra@comtekmail.com
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 17:45:25
Last nite, CNN showed their "Poll of Polls" with McCain in the leads. Interesting... there was no margin of error shown, nor was there the number of people sampled, nor was the questions asked listed, nor was the site to be found where it was taken--- It was just a bunch of numbers they made out to be fact.
The polls are messed up. The only things I am concerned about are teh numbers from the states becuase they amount to electoral votes.
Raine on 09/08/2008 17:45:25
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by livingonli:
If McCain has a 10-point lead than the American people are on crack. Didn't they learn from 8 years of Bush?
I wouldn't believe that shit for a moment. These polls this year are extremely suspect.
Last nite, CNN showed their "Poll of Polls" with McCain in the leads. Interesting... there was no margin of error shown, nor was there the number of people sampled, nor was the questions asked listed, nor was the site to be found where it was taken--- It was just a bunch of numbers they made out to be fact.
The polls are messed up. The only things I am concerned about are teh numbers from the states becuase they amount to electoral votes.
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:47:58
livingonli on 09/08/2008 17:47:58
If they are mavericks then I'm Superman.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/08/2008 17:48:33
Scoopster on 09/08/2008 17:48:33
CNN is about as accurate as a blind archer with Parkinson's.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 17:49:01
Raine on 09/08/2008 17:49:01
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 17:51:58
TriSec on 09/08/2008 17:51:58
Delegate Graph:
The graph above shows the current number of electoral votes for each candidate since Mar 22, The brown horizontal line shows the 270 electoral vote mark needed to be elected president. The gray vertical lines show the boundaries between the months.
The graph above shows the current number of electoral votes for each candidate since Mar 22, The brown horizontal line shows the 270 electoral vote mark needed to be elected president. The gray vertical lines show the boundaries between the months.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:52:03
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 17:52:03
scary!
Comment by Shane-O on 09/08/2008 17:58:24
The best place to go (thanks to Sen. Obama) for this info is here.
And there are details: Earmarks for Alaska, 2008: earmarks.omb.gov/2008-appropriations-by-state/recipient_state/[ak]_summary.html
Earmarks for Illinois, 2008: earmarks.omb.gov/2008-appropriations-by-state/recipient_state/[il]_summary.html
(Sorry, the brackets on the "ak" and "il" are screwing with the url link)
2009 appropriations are still tied up in the Congress, so details are more difficult to find. If you want Palin's requests (70 pages, on her stationary .pdf format), they are here.
And there are links to all the agencies, and what the earmarks were to pay for on the OMB site.
Shane-O on 09/08/2008 17:58:24
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by wickedpam:
what were the earmarks for?
Which earmarks are you referring to, Mala? (I'm not listening to the show - don't get it here)
frickin' doofus on with THom was talking about Obama wanting earmarks for his district. Some earmarks aren't as bad as they sound. The ones Palin wanted did sound just like spending for spending sake. i wanted to know what what Obama earmarking money for compared to what Palin was.
The best place to go (thanks to Sen. Obama) for this info is here.
And there are details: Earmarks for Alaska, 2008: earmarks.omb.gov/2008-appropriations-by-state/recipient_state/[ak]_summary.html
Earmarks for Illinois, 2008: earmarks.omb.gov/2008-appropriations-by-state/recipient_state/[il]_summary.html
(Sorry, the brackets on the "ak" and "il" are screwing with the url link)
2009 appropriations are still tied up in the Congress, so details are more difficult to find. If you want Palin's requests (70 pages, on her stationary .pdf format), they are here.
And there are links to all the agencies, and what the earmarks were to pay for on the OMB site.
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 18:11:43
livingonli on 09/08/2008 18:11:43
Karl Rove can only win by cheating. You know, in old westerns, the cheater usually ended up getting shot.
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 18:13:30
Wait, is district your word or doofuses?
Random on 09/08/2008 18:13:30
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by wickedpam:
what were the earmarks for?
Which earmarks are you referring to, Mala? (I'm not listening to the show - don't get it here)
frickin' doofus on with THom was talking about Obama wanting earmarks for his district. Some earmarks aren't as bad as they sound. The ones Palin wanted did sound just like spending for spending sake. i wanted to know what what Obama earmarking money for compared to what Palin was.
Wait, is district your word or doofuses?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 18:14:33
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 18:14:33
Thanks Shane-O - you rock!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 18:14:54
huh?
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 18:14:54
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by wickedpam:
what were the earmarks for?
Which earmarks are you referring to, Mala? (I'm not listening to the show - don't get it here)
frickin' doofus on with THom was talking about Obama wanting earmarks for his district. Some earmarks aren't as bad as they sound. The ones Palin wanted did sound just like spending for spending sake. i wanted to know what what Obama earmarking money for compared to what Palin was.
Wait, is district your word or doofuses?
huh?
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 18:25:49
TriSec on 09/08/2008 18:25:49
Going to the well again....
Come on Duke, do your stuff!
:mopes in the corner:
Come on Duke, do your stuff!
:mopes in the corner:
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 18:31:17
Raine on 09/08/2008 18:31:17
I have in my hot little hands... THE copy of *Us Weekly*
Quick perusal? (captions and drop ins) They talk about Todd's step mom being an undecided voter, troopergate, Bitchgate, the bridge, the baby Momma question... Ted Stevens... Bristol's Boyfriend not wanting children... oh... and a picture of Sarah pregnant in an earlier pregnancy compared to 2008.
going off to read!
Quick perusal? (captions and drop ins) They talk about Todd's step mom being an undecided voter, troopergate, Bitchgate, the bridge, the baby Momma question... Ted Stevens... Bristol's Boyfriend not wanting children... oh... and a picture of Sarah pregnant in an earlier pregnancy compared to 2008.
going off to read!
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 18:34:36
:huh:
BobR on 09/08/2008 18:34:36
Quote by TriSec:
Going to the well again....
Come on Duke, do your stuff!
:mopes in the corner:
:huh:
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 18:41:31
Duke Ellington. 
Raine on 09/08/2008 18:41:31
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Going to the well again....
Come on Duke, do your stuff!
:mopes in the corner:
:huh:
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 18:50:59
Once Once again the online version is different than the print version... But aside from the Question as to who the is the parent of Trig... it is the same... I LOVED this quote...
Now THAT is a talking point you can believe in.
Raine on 09/08/2008 18:50:59
Quote by Raine:
From the MAgazine.... ONLINE!
Once Once again the online version is different than the print version... But aside from the Question as to who the is the parent of Trig... it is the same... I LOVED this quote...
Though hailed by many family-values supporters for standing by her daughter during her difficult time, Barbara Belknap, former president of the National Organization of Women's Juneau chapter, is less glowing: "Here's a textbook case of how abstinence - only doesn't work in practice, even if your mom's the governor."
Now THAT is a talking point you can believe in.
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 18:52:10
Hm...Well, Obama doesn't have a district, since he's a senator. Congressmen have districts.
That is if i got this all correctly.
So i was asking if the guy said district, or you're saying district.
Random on 09/08/2008 18:52:10
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:Quote by wickedpam:
what were the earmarks for?
Which earmarks are you referring to, Mala? (I'm not listening to the show - don't get it here)
frickin' doofus on with THom was talking about Obama wanting earmarks for his district. Some earmarks aren't as bad as they sound. The ones Palin wanted did sound just like spending for spending sake. i wanted to know what what Obama earmarking money for compared to what Palin was.
Wait, is district your word or doofuses?
huh?
Hm...Well, Obama doesn't have a district, since he's a senator. Congressmen have districts.
That is if i got this all correctly.
So i was asking if the guy said district, or you're saying district.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/08/2008 18:56:24
wickedpam on 09/08/2008 18:56:24
Random - I said district - I confuse myself and thought is was a district but you are right Senators don't have districts :doh:
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 18:57:41
Random on 09/08/2008 18:57:41
Myth #3: Youth Vote doesn’t Matter.
Far from true “my friends”. (To borrow from John McCain) Roughly 20% of “Young Voters” turned out in the most recent national elections. And with the margin of victory in the 2004 election so low, the Youth Vote could have made all the difference. So in an election year that is so close, so they say, Youth Vote will matter. Of course, it will be very hard to get the young voters. You’d have to inspire them in a process that is foreign and, frankly, scary to them. You have to give them reason to stop and pay attention. This year, it’s become clear that the youth are stopping and paying attention. This is an election that matters more to them to just about any other segment of the population. This is an election that will determine their future. So, tell me that the Youth Vote doesn’t matter.
Far from true “my friends”. (To borrow from John McCain) Roughly 20% of “Young Voters” turned out in the most recent national elections. And with the margin of victory in the 2004 election so low, the Youth Vote could have made all the difference. So in an election year that is so close, so they say, Youth Vote will matter. Of course, it will be very hard to get the young voters. You’d have to inspire them in a process that is foreign and, frankly, scary to them. You have to give them reason to stop and pay attention. This year, it’s become clear that the youth are stopping and paying attention. This is an election that matters more to them to just about any other segment of the population. This is an election that will determine their future. So, tell me that the Youth Vote doesn’t matter.
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 18:58:43
>< Random just get's confused. He just trying to figure the stuffs out.
Random on 09/08/2008 18:58:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Random - I said district - I confuse myself and thought is was a district but you are right Senators don't have districts :doh:
>< Random just get's confused. He just trying to figure the stuffs out.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 19:08:39
Raine on 09/08/2008 19:08:39
Who is filling in? Brad from Brad Blog?
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 19:10:29
Did you add this to your Blog Post?
Raine on 09/08/2008 19:10:29
Quote by Random:
Myth #3: Youth Vote doesn’t Matter.
Far from true “my friends”. (To borrow from John McCain) Roughly 20% of “Young Voters” turned out in the most recent national elections. And with the margin of victory in the 2004 election so low, the Youth Vote could have made all the difference. So in an election year that is so close, so they say, Youth Vote will matter. Of course, it will be very hard to get the young voters. You’d have to inspire them in a process that is foreign and, frankly, scary to them. You have to give them reason to stop and pay attention. This year, it’s become clear that the youth are stopping and paying attention. This is an election that matters more to them to just about any other segment of the population. This is an election that will determine their future. So, tell me that the Youth Vote doesn’t matter.
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 19:12:05
Not yet, was trying to get a number 4.
Random on 09/08/2008 19:12:05
Quote by Raine:Did you add this to your Blog Post?Quote by Random:
Myth #3: Youth Vote doesn’t Matter.
Far from true “my friends”. (To borrow from John McCain) Roughly 20% of “Young Voters” turned out in the most recent national elections. And with the margin of victory in the 2004 election so low, the Youth Vote could have made all the difference. So in an election year that is so close, so they say, Youth Vote will matter. Of course, it will be very hard to get the young voters. You’d have to inspire them in a process that is foreign and, frankly, scary to them. You have to give them reason to stop and pay attention. This year, it’s become clear that the youth are stopping and paying attention. This is an election that matters more to them to just about any other segment of the population. This is an election that will determine their future. So, tell me that the Youth Vote doesn’t matter.
Not yet, was trying to get a number 4.
Comment by BobR on 09/08/2008 19:21:12
BobR on 09/08/2008 19:21:12
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 19:27:49
I have to say to say, I don't believe these myths that are out there about the youth vote, so it is hard for me to come up with questions... but how about the Idea that the youth vote won't be around in 4 years...
Or how about the Idea that people think that because they are young they are idealistist and will eventually become Conservative?
I have seen MANY youths out there doign SO much footwork. One thing I hate is the notion that the youth will finally realize (as I was told by my mother growing up) that eventually you will realize that it's all the same and nothing matters. I never believed my mother... Funny... Things still REALLY matter. I will repost this over in the blog you started Random.
Raine on 09/08/2008 19:27:49
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Did you add this to your Blog Post?Quote by Random:
Myth #3: Youth Vote doesn’t Matter.
Far from true “my friends”. (To borrow from John McCain) Roughly 20% of “Young Voters” turned out in the most recent national elections. And with the margin of victory in the 2004 election so low, the Youth Vote could have made all the difference. So in an election year that is so close, so they say, Youth Vote will matter. Of course, it will be very hard to get the young voters. You’d have to inspire them in a process that is foreign and, frankly, scary to them. You have to give them reason to stop and pay attention. This year, it’s become clear that the youth are stopping and paying attention. This is an election that matters more to them to just about any other segment of the population. This is an election that will determine their future. So, tell me that the Youth Vote doesn’t matter.
Not yet, was trying to get a number 4.
Or how about the Idea that people think that because they are young they are idealistist and will eventually become Conservative?
I have seen MANY youths out there doign SO much footwork. One thing I hate is the notion that the youth will finally realize (as I was told by my mother growing up) that eventually you will realize that it's all the same and nothing matters. I never believed my mother... Funny... Things still REALLY matter. I will repost this over in the blog you started Random.
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 19:46:29
Hm...Well, I will do what i can. But a little busy with sumtin else at the moment.
Random on 09/08/2008 19:46:29
Quote by Raine:I have to say to say, I don't believe these myths that are out there about the youth vote, so it is hard for me to come up with questions... but how about the Idea that the youth vote won't be around in 4 years...Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Did you add this to your Blog Post?Quote by Random:
Myth #3: Youth Vote doesn’t Matter.
Far from true “my friends”. (To borrow from John McCain) Roughly 20% of “Young Voters” turned out in the most recent national elections. And with the margin of victory in the 2004 election so low, the Youth Vote could have made all the difference. So in an election year that is so close, so they say, Youth Vote will matter. Of course, it will be very hard to get the young voters. You’d have to inspire them in a process that is foreign and, frankly, scary to them. You have to give them reason to stop and pay attention. This year, it’s become clear that the youth are stopping and paying attention. This is an election that matters more to them to just about any other segment of the population. This is an election that will determine their future. So, tell me that the Youth Vote doesn’t matter.
Not yet, was trying to get a number 4.
Or how about the Idea that people think that because they are young they are idealistist and will eventually become Conservative?
I have seen MANY youths out there doign SO much footwork. One thing I hate is the notion that the youth will finally realize (as I was told by my mother growing up) that eventually you will realize that it's all the same and nothing matters. I never believed my mother... Funny... Things still REALLY matter. I will repost this over in the blog you started Random.
Hm...Well, I will do what i can. But a little busy with sumtin else at the moment.
Comment by m-hadley on 09/08/2008 19:49:47
BobR,
I just read about this over on HuffPo, what Palin doesn't know could fill the Pacific Ocean :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 19:49:47
BobR,
I just read about this over on HuffPo, what Palin doesn't know could fill the Pacific Ocean :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 19:53:05
TriSec on 09/08/2008 19:53:05
Random, you and your generation are my hope.
Like us old warriors that lived through the Reagan presidency and vowed that we would never vote Republican as long as we shall live, you've gone through worse.
9/11, war, Katrina, the economy tanking, college loans, poor job outlook, unaffordable homes.....I'm hoping many of your contemporaries also say "Never as long as we shall live."
:peace:
Like us old warriors that lived through the Reagan presidency and vowed that we would never vote Republican as long as we shall live, you've gone through worse.
9/11, war, Katrina, the economy tanking, college loans, poor job outlook, unaffordable homes.....I'm hoping many of your contemporaries also say "Never as long as we shall live."
:peace:
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 19:54:00
Random on 09/08/2008 19:54:00
Oh, Right. Random is trying to collect the Obama State buttons (Florida for Obama, kind of thing). So, if anyone knows where i can get them, i'd appreciate.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 19:54:49
Raine on 09/08/2008 19:54:49
Ok, you know what? it is time for progressive media to start talking about OUR candidate...
It is time for that. I am sick of the Sarathon... this is the thing that is concerning be badly.
It is time for that. I am sick of the Sarathon... this is the thing that is concerning be badly.
Comment by TriSec on 09/08/2008 20:18:46
TriSec on 09/08/2008 20:18:46
So, the Patriot's season is over before it really began.
(As I said to someone else recently...wake me up if the Patriots are relevant this year.)
Sox and Rays at Fenway tonight! (First place on the line!)
(No gloating, please. Mr. Brady is legitimately injured here.)
(As I said to someone else recently...wake me up if the Patriots are relevant this year.)
Sox and Rays at Fenway tonight! (First place on the line!)
(No gloating, please. Mr. Brady is legitimately injured here.)
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 20:31:43
livingonli on 09/08/2008 20:31:43
Even though it's a sunny day here. All I feel like doing is sleeping.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 20:39:10
I do hope you weren't thinking of me Tri. When I saw it yesterday, I felt badly for him. I still think the Patriots are going to be contenders. you don't have a season like last year with just a quarterback.
You know, I watched the Falcon Opener yesterday... I was seriously impressed with them. They set a Franchise record rushing yesterday. Between Ryan, Turner and Norwood... it was really nice to see a team come back so energized and smiling like they actually were enjoying the game for the first time in a long time. They have been considered a losing team this year REbuilding... etc., etc., but they sure didn't play like it.
Raine on 09/08/2008 20:39:10
Quote by TriSec:
So, the Patriot's season is over before it really began.
(As I said to someone else recently...wake me up if the Patriots are relevant this year.)
Sox and Rays at Fenway tonight! (First place on the line!)
(No gloating, please. Mr. Brady is legitimately injured here.)
You know, I watched the Falcon Opener yesterday... I was seriously impressed with them. They set a Franchise record rushing yesterday. Between Ryan, Turner and Norwood... it was really nice to see a team come back so energized and smiling like they actually were enjoying the game for the first time in a long time. They have been considered a losing team this year REbuilding... etc., etc., but they sure didn't play like it.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 21:02:11
Faye,
I just did a little research... and added to this thread. you may be interested in what I found.
Raine on 09/08/2008 21:02:11
Quote by m-hadley:
BobR,
I just read about this over on HuffPo, what Palin doesn't know could fill the Pacific Ocean :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
I just did a little research... and added to this thread. you may be interested in what I found.
Comment by Raine on 09/08/2008 21:03:55
Raine on 09/08/2008 21:03:55
WTF?!?!?! the AP is reporting that Bush is going to keep combat troops at the same level until the MIDDLE of January and then bring back 8,000 troops?
Comment by m-hadley on 09/08/2008 21:27:23
Raine,
Just more information that confirms my suspicions that Palin is a typical airhead beauty pageant contestant who happened to luck into a mayorship and a governorship, without the requisite knowledge, understanding or intellect. :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
m-hadley on 09/08/2008 21:27:23
Quote by Raine:Faye,Quote by m-hadley:
BobR,
I just read about this over on HuffPo, what Palin doesn't know could fill the Pacific Ocean :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
I just did a little research... and added to this thread. you may be interested in what I found.
Raine,
Just more information that confirms my suspicions that Palin is a typical airhead beauty pageant contestant who happened to luck into a mayorship and a governorship, without the requisite knowledge, understanding or intellect. :rage:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 21:50:54
livingonli on 09/08/2008 21:50:54
Listening to Brad on the radio and it looks like it's going to be through fixing the voting roles as to how the main technique will be in stealing the election. They know that the GOP is so unpopular that flipping it is not enough and there will be much shenanigans this year.
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 22:22:58
livingonli on 09/08/2008 22:22:58
Is there going to be a blog tonight for Rachel's TV show premiere?
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 22:26:59
livingonli on 09/08/2008 22:26:59
And the first hour of Rachel's show no longer seems to be a simulcast of Race to the White House.
Comment by Random on 09/08/2008 22:52:19
Well...
Random on 09/08/2008 22:52:19
Quote by livingonli:
And the first hour of Rachel's show no longer seems to be a simulcast of Race to the White House.
Well...
Comment by livingonli on 09/08/2008 23:21:00
livingonli on 09/08/2008 23:21:00
I guess because of the TV show, Rachel has 6-8 to herself and the 8 PM hour has become the Ron Reagan show.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 23:51:16
UmmmmYeah?
Mondobubba on 09/08/2008 23:51:16
Quote by livingonli:
Is there going to be a blog tonight for Rachel's TV show premiere?
UmmmmYeah?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 00:08:26
Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 00:08:26
Mmmm KO in digital stereo. Now that is good television!
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 00:47:02
Raine on 09/09/2008 00:47:02
Has anyone noticed that Sarah has an adams apple?
Funny cauz Ann Coulter thinks the only other person more mocked in politics was her...
Cause, you know...mAnn was in politics... *cough*
Funny cauz Ann Coulter thinks the only other person more mocked in politics was her...
Cause, you know...mAnn was in politics... *cough*
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 01:00:16
I am there! . Awesome day. Three blogs. :)
Raine on 09/09/2008 01:00:16
Quote by Mondobubba:
New blog for your Rachel viewing enjoyment