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The State of the Uniom
Author: Raine
Date: 01/31/2018 14:01:18
I watched for about 3 minutes. That was all I could do. and I am reading the reviews, I think my favorite was from Representative Luis Gutierrez. His statement is glorious.
During the speech, this happened:
Gutierrez was my spirit animal last night. It was also a helluva lot more respectful than yelling "You lie."
The Washington Post fact checked the speech, and it is a doozy.
There is no State of the Uniom. Our Union however, well, I'll let my hometown newspaper say it.
From WaPo's Editorial Board:
Stay Strong. Rest when you need to. Resist Persist and insist that we become the country we need it to be: A country with a system of consitutional checks and balances that refuses to continue to allow a dangerous authoritarian attmpt to dictate to the United states of America.
and 
Raine
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Although I disagreed with almost everything he said, for Trump, the speech was clear and well-delivered," Gutierrez said in a statement. "Whoever translated it for him from Russian did a good job." Gutierrez is one of the most outspoken members of Congress when it comes to helping young, undocumented people brought to the United States as children, and he said that while he remains hopeful, after hearing Trump's immigration proposal, he can't see Congress and the president coming to an agreement that protects DREAMers.
"The White House agenda is to gut legal immigration in exchange for allowing some of the DREAMers to live here," he said, and Democrats and Republicans who both support legal immigration won't go for this. "The DREAMers themselves have said they do not want legal status if it comes at the expense of others who will suffer more as part of the bargain," he added. "The speech did nothing to bring the pro- and anti-immigrant sides closer together."
During the speech, this happened:
Gutierrez was my spirit animal last night. It was also a helluva lot more respectful than yelling "You lie."
The Washington Post fact checked the speech, and it is a doozy.
There is no State of the Uniom. Our Union however, well, I'll let my hometown newspaper say it.
From WaPo's Editorial Board:
More to the point, he offered little reason to hope that his second-year policies would be more constructive than those of his first. The president spent the past year attacking America’s democratic institutions and splitting the “American family.†His concern for building “one team†has not stopped him from ramping up deportations of harmless people or imperiling the future of the “dreamers,†all of whom have played their part on the American team. His desire for bipartisanship has not led him to negotiate with Democrats in good-faith on health care, taxes or immigration. His search for unity did not stop him Tuesday from taking a gratuitous dig at football players who kneel during the national anthem. As he took a victory lap on the economy, Mr. Trump displayed his typical indifference to the truth, claiming he “enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history.†They are not. (snip)
Mr. Trump did not mention many of the nation’s biggest, longer-term threats. The fiscal crisis, worsened by his tax bill, threatens future generations. Economic inequality is high. The world continues to warm. Russia’s meddling poses a threat to U.S. elections. Sadly, the morning after a very long speech, none of that is going to look any different.
Stay Strong. Rest when you need to. Resist Persist and insist that we become the country we need it to be: A country with a system of consitutional checks and balances that refuses to continue to allow a dangerous authoritarian attmpt to dictate to the United states of America.
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Comment by 
Raine on 01/31/2018 14:04:48
Good morning, Trying to get that first youtube video to appear...
Raine on 01/31/2018 14:04:48
Good morning, Trying to get that first youtube video to appear...
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 14:06:56
here is the URL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?32=&v=NghnQL9dUXY
Raine on 01/31/2018 14:06:56
Quote by Raine:
here is the URL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?32=&v=NghnQL9dUXY
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 14:10:11
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 14:10:11
Morning 
I watched Goonies. "Goonies never give up!"
I watched Goonies. "Goonies never give up!"
Comment by 
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 14:25:22
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 14:25:22
Grrrrr.. mornin' all... 
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 14:33:16
Why would they do that?
are you sure it's not your phone?
Raine on 01/31/2018 14:33:16
Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
are you sure it's not your phone?
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 14:35:38
Nope, unfortunately not.
Forcing people to update apps via their cell data is fucking atrocious, tho it can still be done over wi-fi. Still, downloading large files like that over a wireless connection is slow as hell. It's MUCH easier and faster to download it on a PC and update with the USB cable.
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 14:35:38
Quote by Raine:Why would they do that?Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
are you sure it's not your phone?
Nope, unfortunately not.
Forcing people to update apps via their cell data is fucking atrocious, tho it can still be done over wi-fi. Still, downloading large files like that over a wireless connection is slow as hell. It's MUCH easier and faster to download it on a PC and update with the USB cable.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 14:43:01
Wow, what a PITA.
Raine on 01/31/2018 14:43:01
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:Why would they do that?Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
are you sure it's not your phone?
Nope, unfortunately not.
Forcing people to update apps via their cell data is fucking atrocious, tho it can still be done over wi-fi. Still, downloading large files like that over a wireless connection is slow as hell. It's MUCH easier and faster to download it on a PC and update with the USB cable.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 15:01:05
Raine on 01/31/2018 15:01:05
Some of this came out last night, but this article gives an important deet:
If Sessions lied to Mueller he's in a world of hurt.
In the weeks before special counsel Robert Mueller’s team interviewed Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Justice Department turned over a cache of internal correspondence, including documents related to the proposed resignation of Sessions last year and emails with the White House about fired national security adviser Michael Flynn, according to a source with knowledge of the matter.
If Sessions lied to Mueller he's in a world of hurt.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 15:04:24
Why do you think I switched about four-five years ago? I got tired of Apple's shenanigans. When your contract's up might I suggest Project Fi from The Googles? I've had them about a year. It is super easy. The downside there are only like two phones, the Pixel 2 and the Pixel. The upside to the limited selection, there's no provided added bloatware.
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 15:04:24
Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
Why do you think I switched about four-five years ago? I got tired of Apple's shenanigans. When your contract's up might I suggest Project Fi from The Googles? I've had them about a year. It is super easy. The downside there are only like two phones, the Pixel 2 and the Pixel. The upside to the limited selection, there's no provided added bloatware.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 15:07:16
I love my Galaxy but I'm starting to consider the Pixel - my contract ends next month and it looks like I'm finally gonna have to "buy/lease" the phone. Not looking forward to my bill going up again.
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 15:07:16
Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
I love my Galaxy but I'm starting to consider the Pixel - my contract ends next month and it looks like I'm finally gonna have to "buy/lease" the phone. Not looking forward to my bill going up again.
Comment by 
BobR on 01/31/2018 15:16:23
I am VERY happy with my Samsung
BobR on 01/31/2018 15:16:23
Quote by Raine:Wow, what a PITA.Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:Why would they do that?Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
are you sure it's not your phone?
Nope, unfortunately not.
Forcing people to update apps via their cell data is fucking atrocious, tho it can still be done over wi-fi. Still, downloading large files like that over a wireless connection is slow as hell. It's MUCH easier and faster to download it on a PC and update with the USB cable.
I am VERY happy with my Samsung
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 15:46:46
Raine on 01/31/2018 15:46:46
Listening to parts of the speech (SMShow) and he's worse than last year, 
added invisible commas, and pauses in the speach and it really sounded like he didn't know what he was reading.
added invisible commas, and pauses in the speach and it really sounded like he didn't know what he was reading.
Comment by BobR on 01/31/2018 15:49:14
BobR on 01/31/2018 15:49:14
Quote by Raine:
Listening to parts of the speech (SMShow) and he's worse than last year,
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/31/2018 15:58:26
TriSec on 01/31/2018 15:58:26
'Rambling and incoherent' is about the kindest thing I could say.
Has any other SOTU featured as many people in the gallery that got called out last night?
And what was with all that physical posturing? I pulled up the classic photo of Mussolini thrusting his jaw, and Anal Fistula struck that pose more times than I could count.
Has any other SOTU featured as many people in the gallery that got called out last night?
And what was with all that physical posturing? I pulled up the classic photo of Mussolini thrusting his jaw, and Anal Fistula struck that pose more times than I could count.
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/31/2018 16:01:18
livingonli on 01/31/2018 16:01:18
Apparently on the donor screen of the bullshit party, someone snuck in a "Vladimir P" as one of the donors.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 16:02:45
From what I heard he faced only the GOP side of the aisle most of the time instead of facing forward. What a petty dickhead.
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 16:02:45
Quote by TriSec:
'Rambling and incoherent' is about the kindest thing I could say.
Has any other SOTU featured as many people in the gallery that got called out last night?
And what was with all that physical posturing? I pulled up the classic photo of Mussolini thrusting his jaw, and Anal Fistula struck that pose more times than I could count.
From what I heard he faced only the GOP side of the aisle most of the time instead of facing forward. What a petty dickhead.
Comment by BobR on 01/31/2018 16:29:53
BobR on 01/31/2018 16:29:53
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently on the donor screen of the bullshit party, someone snuck in a "Vladimir P" as one of the donors.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 16:34:53
Raine on 01/31/2018 16:34:53
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 16:35:11
Brilliant!
Raine on 01/31/2018 16:35:11
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently on the donor screen of the bullshit party, someone snuck in a "Vladimir P" as one of the donors.
Brilliant!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 16:44:29
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 16:44:29
I wish people would stop saying "blue tsunami" I'm a lot worried we are putting the cart before the horse.
There is good momentum but just a tiny pebble can trip us up if we are not careful.
There is good momentum but just a tiny pebble can trip us up if we are not careful.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 16:48:05
Raine on 01/31/2018 16:48:05
OMG
NEWS — The train carrying GOP lawmakers to the retreat in West Virginia has collided with a dump truck. Initial reports indicate everything is OK.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 31, 2018
Comment by BobR on 01/31/2018 16:51:44
I am loving this
BobR on 01/31/2018 16:51:44
Quote by Raine:
I am loving this
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 16:54:41
I just saw this too.. and my first reaction was something akin to "two piles of garbage eh?".
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 16:54:41
Quote by Raine:
OMGNEWS — The train carrying GOP lawmakers to the retreat in West Virginia has collided with a dump truck. Initial reports indicate everything is OK.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 31, 2018
I just saw this too.. and my first reaction was something akin to "two piles of garbage eh?".
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:01:11
Not gonna lie, I did kinda guiltily snort chuckle hearing it was a trash truck.
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:01:11
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
OMGNEWS — The train carrying GOP lawmakers to the retreat in West Virginia has collided with a dump truck. Initial reports indicate everything is OK.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 31, 2018
I just saw this too.. and my first reaction was something akin to "two piles of garbage eh?".
Not gonna lie, I did kinda guiltily snort chuckle hearing it was a trash truck.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 17:03:25
Minor injuries include GOP pride.
That was the tRumpTrain.
Raine on 01/31/2018 17:03:25
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:
OMGNEWS — The train carrying GOP lawmakers to the retreat in West Virginia has collided with a dump truck. Initial reports indicate everything is OK.
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 31, 2018
I just saw this too.. and my first reaction was something akin to "two piles of garbage eh?".
Not gonna lie, I did kinda guiltily snort chuckle hearing it was a trash truck.
Minor injuries include GOP pride.
That was the tRumpTrain.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 17:09:50
Look into Project Fi, Mala. Your bill will likely go down, even if you add in the phone payment.
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 17:09:50
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
I love my Galaxy but I'm starting to consider the Pixel - my contract ends next month and it looks like I'm finally gonna have to "buy/lease" the phone. Not looking forward to my bill going up again.
Look into Project Fi, Mala. Your bill will likely go down, even if you add in the phone payment.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:17:20
Not sure I understand what Project Fi is. Is it something in addtion to my Verizon account or a whole other network (ie Sprint, T-Mobile, etc)
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:17:20
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
I love my Galaxy but I'm starting to consider the Pixel - my contract ends next month and it looks like I'm finally gonna have to "buy/lease" the phone. Not looking forward to my bill going up again.
Look into Project Fi, Mala. Your bill will likely go down, even if you add in the phone payment.
Not sure I understand what Project Fi is. Is it something in addtion to my Verizon account or a whole other network (ie Sprint, T-Mobile, etc)
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:20:47
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:20:47
And Trey Gowdy is outta here.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 17:25:28
Wait. WHAT?
He's quitting?
Raine on 01/31/2018 17:25:28
Quote by wickedpam:
And Trey Gowdy is outta here.
Wait. WHAT?
He's quitting?
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 17:26:33
Jeez just saw this too. That's 34 GOP retirements this cycle.
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 17:26:33
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
And Trey Gowdy is outta here.
Wait. WHAT?
He's quitting?
Jeez just saw this too. That's 34 GOP retirements this cycle.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:29:26
Its craziness. I almost feel like they know something we don't, and its worrisome.
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 17:29:26
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
And Trey Gowdy is outta here.
Wait. WHAT?
He's quitting?
Jeez just saw this too. That's 34 GOP retirements this cycle.
Its craziness. I almost feel like they know something we don't, and its worrisome.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 17:58:29
It is cell service from Google. The cost for unlimited text and talk is $20.00. You pick how much data you want for $10 per gig. If you go over six gigs it goes unlimited. I typically use about .5 gigs in a month. I pay for my phone at $24.07 a month. I paid $55.80 last month.
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 17:58:29
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
I love my Galaxy but I'm starting to consider the Pixel - my contract ends next month and it looks like I'm finally gonna have to "buy/lease" the phone. Not looking forward to my bill going up again.
Look into Project Fi, Mala. Your bill will likely go down, even if you add in the phone payment.
Not sure I understand what Project Fi is. Is it something in addtion to my Verizon account or a whole other network (ie Sprint, T-Mobile, etc)
It is cell service from Google. The cost for unlimited text and talk is $20.00. You pick how much data you want for $10 per gig. If you go over six gigs it goes unlimited. I typically use about .5 gigs in a month. I pay for my phone at $24.07 a month. I paid $55.80 last month.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 18:04:21
hmmm, might have to look at that then. Thing is mom's phone is on my account but she never uses data and refuses to have a smart phone of any kind. Which I understand, she just wants to dial a phone in case of emergency. Plus I have my internet bundled with my phone. Gawd, they make this stuff so complicated.
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 18:04:21
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
Grrrrr.. mornin' all...
Just discovered that Apple removed the functionality of iTunes to download, load or update apps for an iPhone. WHY THE FUCKING HELL WOULD THEY DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT?!
I'm done. First moment that my phone goes off contract, I'm selling it & getting an Android one.
I love my Galaxy but I'm starting to consider the Pixel - my contract ends next month and it looks like I'm finally gonna have to "buy/lease" the phone. Not looking forward to my bill going up again.
Look into Project Fi, Mala. Your bill will likely go down, even if you add in the phone payment.
Not sure I understand what Project Fi is. Is it something in addtion to my Verizon account or a whole other network (ie Sprint, T-Mobile, etc)
It is cell service from Google. The cost for unlimited text and talk is $20.00. You pick how much data you want for $10 per gig. If you go over six gigs it goes unlimited. I typically use about .5 gigs in a month. I pay for my phone at $24.07 a month. I paid $55.80 last month.
hmmm, might have to look at that then. Thing is mom's phone is on my account but she never uses data and refuses to have a smart phone of any kind. Which I understand, she just wants to dial a phone in case of emergency. Plus I have my internet bundled with my phone. Gawd, they make this stuff so complicated.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 18:07:47
Raine on 01/31/2018 18:07:47
Funny that.
Because there are no coincidences in politics, I'll note that a seat on the Fourth Circuit (covers South Carolina) became vacant just *yesterday* https://t.co/y7NrUsyEhQ https://t.co/F5GkbFu0YP
— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 31, 2018
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 18:28:25
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 18:28:25
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that 
husband of hers.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
husband of hers.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 18:35:52
Wait, what?! I thought that kid belonged to the other lady. Why the F would they do that! That's creepy.
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 18:35:52
Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Wait, what?! I thought that kid belonged to the other lady. Why the F would they do that! That's creepy.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 18:53:22
Citation, please?
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 18:53:22
Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Citation, please?
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 19:10:29
Fox News, of all places.
Here's a comparison with Barron's photo (from the eclipse, I think?)
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 19:10:29
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Citation, please?
Fox News, of all places.
Here's a comparison with Barron's photo (from the eclipse, I think?)
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 19:11:47
On the other side of him? I thought that was Tiffany (his half-sister).
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 19:11:47
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Wait, what?! I thought that kid belonged to the other lady. Why the F would they do that! That's creepy.
On the other side of him? I thought that was Tiffany (his half-sister).
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 19:11:55
I think he belongs to the blond lady.
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 19:11:55
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Citation, please?
Fox News, of all places.
Here's a comparison with Barron's photo (from the eclipse, I think?)
I think he belongs to the blond lady.
Comment by BobR on 01/31/2018 19:15:04
Definitely not Tiffany tRump
BobR on 01/31/2018 19:15:04
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Wait, what?! I thought that kid belonged to the other lady. Why the F would they do that! That's creepy.
On the other side of him? I thought that was Tiffany (his half-sister).
Definitely not Tiffany tRump
Comment by wickedpam on 01/31/2018 19:32:41
No, that's one of the special guests. Tiffany doesn't rank front row for that. She's lucky they let her through the door.
wickedpam on 01/31/2018 19:32:41
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Wait, what?! I thought that kid belonged to the other lady. Why the F would they do that! That's creepy.
On the other side of him? I thought that was Tiffany (his half-sister).
No, that's one of the special guests. Tiffany doesn't rank front row for that. She's lucky they let her through the door.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 19:58:41
Again, this is not a citation, this is a picture of some kid sitting next to Melania. Now if there had been a caption that said "Barron Trump" you might have something.
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 19:58:41
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Citation, please?
Fox News, of all places.
Here's a comparison with Barron's photo (from the eclipse, I think?)
I think he belongs to the blond lady.
Again, this is not a citation, this is a picture of some kid sitting next to Melania. Now if there had been a caption that said "Barron Trump" you might have something.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 19:59:31
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 19:59:31
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 20:24:09
Raine on 01/31/2018 20:24:09
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 20:28:43
being stubborn is fine, however, is not being contrary just to be contrary,
I found this with a search in under a minute. Mondo, you could have done the same thing.
That isn't so extraordinary proof.
Raine on 01/31/2018 20:28:43
Quote by Mondobubba:
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
being stubborn is fine, however, is not being contrary just to be contrary,
I found this with a search in under a minute. Mondo, you could have done the same thing.
Preston Sharp, a young boy who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 American flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves through a campaign he calls the Flag and Flower Challenge. Preston’s efforts began in 2015 after a visit to the grave of his grandfather, a veteran, when he noticed other veterans’ graves that were undecorated.
That isn't so extraordinary proof.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 20:31:54
Mondo is going to go into his cave now. He will be contemplating how being a hard-headed dick isn't always the way to go.
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 20:31:54
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
being stubborn is fine, however, is not being contrary just to be contrary,
I found this with a search in under a minute. Mondo, you could have done the same thing.Preston Sharp, a young boy who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 American flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves through a campaign he calls the Flag and Flower Challenge. Preston’s efforts began in 2015 after a visit to the grave of his grandfather, a veteran, when he noticed other veterans’ graves that were undecorated.
That isn't so extraordinary proof.
Mondo is going to go into his cave now. He will be contemplating how being a hard-headed dick isn't always the way to go.
Comment by livingonli on 01/31/2018 20:38:42
livingonli on 01/31/2018 20:38:42
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 20:49:00
He's in DC. His former School was in NYC.
Raine on 01/31/2018 20:49:00
Quote by livingonli:
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 20:49:52
I love you, brother.
I just felt the need to say that.
Raine on 01/31/2018 20:49:52
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
being stubborn is fine, however, is not being contrary just to be contrary,
I found this with a search in under a minute. Mondo, you could have done the same thing.Preston Sharp, a young boy who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 American flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves through a campaign he calls the Flag and Flower Challenge. Preston’s efforts began in 2015 after a visit to the grave of his grandfather, a veteran, when he noticed other veterans’ graves that were undecorated.
That isn't so extraordinary proof.
Mondo is going to go into his cave now. He will be contemplating how being a hard-headed dick isn't always the way to go.
I just felt the need to say that.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 20:51:39
Tiffany Trump is currently getting her masters at Georgetown, I believe.
ETA: Georgetown Law.
Raine on 01/31/2018 20:51:39
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Scoopster:
They actually had a child actor at the SOTU in Barron's place.
I don't blame Melania for not wanting her child exposed any more to that
Wait, what?! I thought that kid belonged to the other lady. Why the F would they do that! That's creepy.
On the other side of him? I thought that was Tiffany (his half-sister).
Definitely not Tiffany tRump
Tiffany Trump is currently getting her masters at Georgetown, I believe.
ETA: Georgetown Law.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/31/2018 21:14:57
Scoopster on 01/31/2018 21:14:57
Ughggh.. my connection at work has been flaky all day. It took about 5 mins for the quote button here to do anything.
To be honest, I look at it as training. Training in making sure to include valid source material with what we post. Unfortunately we can't afford to be lax in our vigilance against the false bullshit being thrown around these days. I did think you were being a little harsh about it, but I thought of it as necessary.
Kent Jones was right, kids! VIGILANCE!!!
Quote by Mondobubba:
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
To be honest, I look at it as training. Training in making sure to include valid source material with what we post. Unfortunately we can't afford to be lax in our vigilance against the false bullshit being thrown around these days. I did think you were being a little harsh about it, but I thought of it as necessary.
Kent Jones was right, kids! VIGILANCE!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 21:35:04
Thank you, Raine.
Mondobubba on 01/31/2018 21:35:04
Quote by Raine:I love you, brother.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
being stubborn is fine, however, is not being contrary just to be contrary,
I found this with a search in under a minute. Mondo, you could have done the same thing.Preston Sharp, a young boy who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 American flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves through a campaign he calls the Flag and Flower Challenge. Preston’s efforts began in 2015 after a visit to the grave of his grandfather, a veteran, when he noticed other veterans’ graves that were undecorated.
That isn't so extraordinary proof.
Mondo is going to go into his cave now. He will be contemplating how being a hard-headed dick isn't always the way to go.
I just felt the need to say that.
Thank you, Raine.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 22:26:24
Pff.
no need, Mondo.
I know I can be a bit a PITA.
Raine on 01/31/2018 22:26:24
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I love you, brother.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
being stubborn is fine, however, is not being contrary just to be contrary,
I found this with a search in under a minute. Mondo, you could have done the same thing.Preston Sharp, a young boy who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 American flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves through a campaign he calls the Flag and Flower Challenge. Preston’s efforts began in 2015 after a visit to the grave of his grandfather, a veteran, when he noticed other veterans’ graves that were undecorated.
That isn't so extraordinary proof.
Mondo is going to go into his cave now. He will be contemplating how being a hard-headed dick isn't always the way to go.
I just felt the need to say that.
Thank you, Raine.
no need, Mondo.
I know I can be a bit a PITA.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 22:27:52
That's the thing, here we should be able to say 'Hey, what's the source?'
this is a safe place , IMO.
Raine on 01/31/2018 22:27:52
Quote by Scoopster:
Ughggh.. my connection at work has been flaky all day. It took about 5 mins for the quote button here to do anything.Quote by Mondobubba:
Sorry, I am being so stubborn, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
To be honest, I look at it as training. Training in making sure to include valid source material with what we post. Unfortunately we can't afford to be lax in our vigilance against the false bullshit being thrown around these days. I did think you were being a little harsh about it, but I thought of it as necessary.
Kent Jones was right, kids! VIGILANCE!!!
this is a safe place , IMO.
Comment by livingonli on 01/31/2018 22:31:37
I remember a report saying that he was being put in a private school that wasn't in DC which would mean he is probably boarding wherever he went.
livingonli on 01/31/2018 22:31:37
Quote by Raine:He's in DC. His former School was in NYC.Quote by livingonli:
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
I remember a report saying that he was being put in a private school that wasn't in DC which would mean he is probably boarding wherever he went.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 22:35:18
Raine on 01/31/2018 22:35:18
BTW, for those that don't usually listen to TUTN , we made an announcement. IF you are friends with Heidi Hollen and Sue Ensor on FB, they are cohosts -- I am wing woman.
We have a new show developing. Here is the twitter page.
We'll be getting a FB page and website up soon. If you can, give us a follow?
We have a new show developing. Here is the twitter page.
We'll be getting a FB page and website up soon. If you can, give us a follow?
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 22:37:45
Hmm. I looked it up.
The school is actually in Potomac, Maryland.
Raine on 01/31/2018 22:37:45
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:He's in DC. His former School was in NYC.Quote by livingonli:
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
I remember a report saying that he was being put in a private school that wasn't in DC which would mean he is probably boarding wherever he went.
Hmm. I looked it up.
The school is actually in Potomac, Maryland.
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 22:41:25
You could be correct about him being in a boarding school.
That seems pretty far to travel everyday with SS.
All I know is that must bother MElania. I know (personally from trusted friends) that she always accompnaied him to his school in NY and picked him up --
until her . husband made it that she could not anymore.
Raine on 01/31/2018 22:41:25
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:He's in DC. His former School was in NYC.Quote by livingonli:
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
I remember a report saying that he was being put in a private school that wasn't in DC which would mean he is probably boarding wherever he went.
Hmm. I looked it up.
The school is actually in Potomac, Maryland.
You could be correct about him being in a boarding school.
That seems pretty far to travel everyday with SS.
All I know is that must bother MElania. I know (personally from trusted friends) that she always accompnaied him to his school in NY and picked him up --
until her .
husband made it that she could not anymore.
Comment by livingonli on 01/31/2018 22:54:32
And without her son being around, and infidelity being waved in front of her face must be making everything frustrating and unhappy for her.
livingonli on 01/31/2018 22:54:32
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:He's in DC. His former School was in NYC.Quote by livingonli:
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
I remember a report saying that he was being put in a private school that wasn't in DC which would mean he is probably boarding wherever he went.
Hmm. I looked it up.
The school is actually in Potomac, Maryland.
You could be correct about him being in a boarding school.
That seems pretty far to travel everyday with SS.
All I know is that must bother MElania. I know (personally from trusted friends) that she always accompnaied him to his school in NY and picked him up --
until her .
And without her son being around, and
infidelity being waved in front of her face must be making everything frustrating and unhappy for her.
Comment by livingonli on 01/31/2018 23:06:46
livingonli on 01/31/2018 23:06:46
Comment by Raine on 01/31/2018 23:07:55
Yes. A lot of people say a lot of things about her, her son is the joy of her life.
That abusive (IMO) bastard took that away.
And when I say abusive, this is why I don't believe she believes the birther conspiracy that promoted. I don't believe she told the truth to Joy Behar. I think she was told to keep spreading that lie.
And no, I am not joking.
Raine on 01/31/2018 23:07:55
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:He's in DC. His former School was in NYC.Quote by livingonli:
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
I remember a report saying that he was being put in a private school that wasn't in DC which would mean he is probably boarding wherever he went.
Hmm. I looked it up.
The school is actually in Potomac, Maryland.
You could be correct about him being in a boarding school.
That seems pretty far to travel everyday with SS.
All I know is that must bother MElania. I know (personally from trusted friends) that she always accompnaied him to his school in NY and picked him up --
until her .
And without her son being around, and
That abusive (IMO) bastard took that away.
And when I say abusive, this is why I don't believe she believes the birther conspiracy that
promoted. I don't believe she told the truth to Joy Behar. I think she was told to keep spreading that lie. And no, I am not joking.
Comment by livingonli on 01/31/2018 23:18:23
Supposedly she was an admirer of Michelle Obama which is why she ended up with that plagiarized speech at the RNC Convention so there is a point there. She may have married him for money, but may be now learning that money isn't everything.
livingonli on 01/31/2018 23:18:23
Quote by Raine:Yes. A lot of people say a lot of things about her, her son is the joy of her life.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:He's in DC. His former School was in NYC.Quote by livingonli:
Isn't Barron probably at his school right now? I do remember reports about the school in Delaware?
I remember a report saying that he was being put in a private school that wasn't in DC which would mean he is probably boarding wherever he went.
Hmm. I looked it up.
The school is actually in Potomac, Maryland.
You could be correct about him being in a boarding school.
That seems pretty far to travel everyday with SS.
All I know is that must bother MElania. I know (personally from trusted friends) that she always accompnaied him to his school in NY and picked him up --
until her .
And without her son being around, and
That abusive (IMO) bastard took that away.
And when I say abusive, this is why I don't believe she believes the birther conspiracy that
And no, I am not joking.
Supposedly she was an admirer of Michelle Obama which is why she ended up with that plagiarized speech at the RNC Convention so there is a point there. She may have married him for money, but may be now learning that money isn't everything.
Comment by livingonli on 01/31/2018 23:20:36
livingonli on 01/31/2018 23:20:36
On a side note, she supposedly coaxed him into running because she was tired of all his bullshit about Obama but that came back to bite her in the ass when he actually "won" the election.