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Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 10/07/2008 10:31:37
Good Morning.
Today is our 2,029th day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty reports from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths:
Since war began (3/19/03): 4177
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4038
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3716
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3311
Since Election (1/31/05): 2731
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 609
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 376
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 444
We find this morning's cost of war passing through $560, 391, 100, 000.00 (and coupled with the $700 billionbailout rescue of wall street, that's a pretty picture, isn't it?)
So, is everyone ready for tonight's debate? It seems that things have taken a darker turn over the past 48 hours. As we get closer to the election, every action, every appearance, every press conference becomes super-critical. Our troops are noticing too, and they see things through a slightly different lens than the rest of us. Nevertheless, they see this election as a crucial choice for their families and their futures...
Turning to our friends at IAVA, their top story today ties in neatly with ours. Since everyone recognizes the urgency of voting this year, shouldn't it be as easy and painless to vote as we can possibly make it? Soldiers far from their home precincts have always had a challenge in casting US votes....but the good news is some help may be on the way.
Speaking of IAVA, four years ago they released a "congressional report card", a report on how well each member of congress has done in regards to veteran issues. Just in time for the 2008 election, this year's report card is out.
The link seems to be down as I write this, no doubt IAVA is saving it for the press conference today.
Lastly, as we near the holidays, I want everyone to start thinking about veteran's charities....there are thousands of troops stationed far from home that will be spending Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hannukah, and Kwanzaa away from their families, and a little bit of comfort from home would do wonders for their morale. Now is the time to start thinking about doing something, so things reach the troops in time.
Operation USO care package
Any Soldier
Give to the troops
Charity list at "Op-For"
Charity list at IAVA
Today is our 2,029th day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty reports from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths:
Since war began (3/19/03): 4177
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4038
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3716
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3311
Since Election (1/31/05): 2731
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 609
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 376
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 444
We find this morning's cost of war passing through $560, 391, 100, 000.00 (and coupled with the $700 billion
So, is everyone ready for tonight's debate? It seems that things have taken a darker turn over the past 48 hours. As we get closer to the election, every action, every appearance, every press conference becomes super-critical. Our troops are noticing too, and they see things through a slightly different lens than the rest of us. Nevertheless, they see this election as a crucial choice for their families and their futures...
CAMERON, N.C. - For Private First Class Michael Anderson, the perils he could face on his first deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan next year are the least of his worries.
Anderson, 22, says he is more concerned about how his wife, Tunisia, 30, and the four children they are bringing up - from six months to 9 years old - will cope with his long absence; whether they will be able to make ends meet; the long-term effects on their relationship; indeed, even whether the family can hold together.
In the new military housing development where they live outside Fort Bragg, just one of the military communities that ring the Army's largest base on the East Coast, the neatly manicured lawns, American flags, and bright new playgrounds mask a messier reality about military life this election season.
"The family situation for soldiers stinks," Anderson said in the living room of his simple two-story house in Lyndon Oaks, home to enlisted soldiers and their families, as his wife put away groceries from Wal-Mart.
"This is an area that needs a lot of improvement as far as things that help soldiers," he added, including more pay and benefits and family-support programs.
"The wives don't have much to do," he said. "They get bored. They need to have more types of recreational things."
In large part because of such anxieties, soldiers and their spouses are more engaged in this presidential election than ever before, according to longtime observers of the Fort Bragg area. They are keenly interested to see what the candidates' policies will mean for the future of their communities.
But many of them are caught between their frustration with their predicament and a desire to make sure the mission in Iraq is respected and their service is honored.
Anderson, for example, said he believes that "the soldiers aren't being respected when they come home." He complained of local stores in the Fort Bragg area "taking advantage of us" by jacking up prices.
Since the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, the Army has taken unprecedented steps to help soldiers and their families cope with the strains of multiple deployments, unleashing a battalion of family assistance specialists, financial advisers, and setting up a variety of new counseling programs.
The Army has repeatedly acknowledged the strain caused by such deployments, including a higher divorce rate than in other military branches.
"There is a maturity in how the Army supports these families," insists retired Colonel George Quigley, 69, now a community volunteer and organizer for the McCain campaign, which is trying to convince military families that the former prisoner of war will provide more benefits, if not an immediate let-up in the pace of deployments.
Continued...
Turning to our friends at IAVA, their top story today ties in neatly with ours. Since everyone recognizes the urgency of voting this year, shouldn't it be as easy and painless to vote as we can possibly make it? Soldiers far from their home precincts have always had a challenge in casting US votes....but the good news is some help may be on the way.
Our most basic charge as service member is to defend the country and its way of life. No action exemplifies the core principles of freedom more than the simple act of voting. It is our most basic right and one that we have had to fight for throughout our history. One would think that for those charged with its defense, casting a vote would be simple. Sadly, this is not the case. Many service members vote not in the district in which they are stationed, but in their home of record. The transitory lifestyle of the military makes this a common and necessary practice, and local municipalities generally have effective procedures in place to accommodate its constituents serving around the country. However, for those serving overseas the process is difficult, and for those deployed overseas, the process is practically impossible to navigate without the help and support of the DOD.
In 2000, I was deployed to Bosnia during the Presidential Primary Elections. Knowing beforehand that I would be deployed, I applied for an absentee ballot. As I did not know where I would be stationed, I had it sent to my parents thinking that they would be able to send it to me, and I could return it in time. As you can imagine, this was not the case. The ballot took two weeks to get to me at Camp Tuzla, another two weeks for it to return to California, and it missed the deadline. For all of us who have been deployed, we all know and accept the realities of the Military postal system. By and large, the system works pretty well, but it is near impossible to deal with anything time sensitive. In Bosnia, the system was unpredictable. In Iraq and Afghanistan, the system is functional, but chaotic. Clearly, there needs to be a special emphasis and assistance from the DOD in order to ensure that those who are fighting for our freedoms are able to cast their vote and be counted.
Currently the DOD uses the Federal Voter Assistance Program (FVAP), which provides a 460 page instruction manual detailing the step by step procedures for completing and sending the Federal Post Card Application (FPCA). The FPCA is a combined voter registration and absentee ballot application that was created from the Uniformed and Overseas Citizen Absentee Voter Act of 1986. As states have a variety of different requirements, the “catch all” FPCA is difficult to fill out and a significant portion end up getting rejected by the states. According to a Pew Research study, 40,000 military FPCAs were rejected in 2006 due to some error in filling out state requirements. Furthermore, units Voter Assistance Officers are not given proper training on the difference between local registration and the FPCA.
In 2004 I was appointed as the Voter Assistance Officer (VAO) for my Troop. The only information or guidance I received was the memo assigning me the extra duty. Being responsible, I set out on my own to find resources and pathways to get my soldiers registered either locally or in their home state. I did locate the FVAP, and made attempts to get every soldier that was interested properly registered. In 2004 this was not as easy of a task as it is today. In garrison, this program works, as it relies on the predictability of the US. Mail. However, the Pew study shows that in 2004 VAOs reached only 50%of military voters. Furthermore, states require a myriad of different requirements that lead to confusion and error when filling out the FPCA. The Federal Voter Assistance Program is assigned the responsibility to register overseas voters, yet does not have the authority to affect and change the systems needed to make registration happen.
On October 1, the Senate passed S 3073, the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act. This act requires the Secretary of Defense to establish procedures for collecting absentee ballots of military overseas voters in elections for federal office; and delivering such ballots to the appropriate state election officials. Additionally, it mandates that the delivery must take place prior to the polls closing and authorized the DOD to use express mail and contract delivery services to ensure local receipt of ballots.
Continued...
Speaking of IAVA, four years ago they released a "congressional report card", a report on how well each member of congress has done in regards to veteran issues. Just in time for the 2008 election, this year's report card is out.
NEW YORK - Today, the nonpartisan IAVA Action Fund released its 2008 Congressional Report Card. The Report Card grades every Senator and Congressman on his or her leadership and voting record on key Iraq and Afghanistan veterans' issues including the GI Bill, VA funding and mental health care. The Report Card recognizes the 110th Congress' unprecedented achievements on behalf of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans (more than 150 legislators received an A+). It also highlights the lawmakers who failed to make veterans a priority (9 politicians earned a D or F). A searchable version of the Report Card can be found at www.VeteranReportCard.org
"IAVA Action's 2008 Congressional Report Card reveals which lawmakers took a stand on behalf of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans and which ones failed to truly support the troops," said Paul Rieckhoff, Executive Director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA). "From their leadership on the GI Bill to their support of increased VA funding, IAVA Action holds lawmakers accountable with this campaign. Now every American can find out who in Washington really supports Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, and who is just full of hot air."
The link seems to be down as I write this, no doubt IAVA is saving it for the press conference today.
Lastly, as we near the holidays, I want everyone to start thinking about veteran's charities....there are thousands of troops stationed far from home that will be spending Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hannukah, and Kwanzaa away from their families, and a little bit of comfort from home would do wonders for their morale. Now is the time to start thinking about doing something, so things reach the troops in time.
Operation USO care package
Any Soldier
Give to the troops
Charity list at "Op-For"
Charity list at IAVA
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Comment by 
BobR on 10/07/2008 12:14:10
BobR on 10/07/2008 12:14:10
With regards to soldiers' wives (and female soldiers' husbands), it seems an ideal win-win would be to create a program where soldiers' spouses are given preference for civilian jobs on the base. They might even be able to set up a "job sharing" program where two different spouses can work part-time covering the same job if they don't want to work full-time.
Free on-base daycare would complete the scenario.
This would put a little more money in the familes' pockets, alleviate the boredom, and create a permanent labor pool for the base.
Free on-base daycare would complete the scenario.
This would put a little more money in the familes' pockets, alleviate the boredom, and create a permanent labor pool for the base.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 12:51:31
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 12:51:31
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 12:53:49
Sound like great idea but you have to remember one thing.
POLITICTS.
And the other buggabo? RANK.
But other than that it IS a great idea.
Oh yeah HELLO!
Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 12:53:49
Quote by BobR:
With regards to soldiers' wives (and female soldiers' husbands), it seems an ideal win-win would be to create a program where soldiers' spouses are given preference for civilian jobs on the base. They might even be able to set up a "job sharing" program where two different spouses can work part-time covering the same job if they don't want to work full-time.
Free on-base daycare would complete the scenario.
This would put a little more money in the familes' pockets, alleviate the boredom, and create a permanent labor pool for the base.
Sound like great idea but you have to remember one thing.
POLITICTS.
And the other buggabo? RANK.
But other than that it IS a great idea.
Oh yeah HELLO!
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/07/2008 12:57:45
TriSec on 10/07/2008 12:57:45
Ah, the Congressional Report Card website is up now!
So, to review.....
The troop-hating, budget-cutting, cheese-eating surrender monkeys:
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): B (5 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, plus 2 points for Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsorship)
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE): B (6 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, plus 2 points for Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsorship)
And that Troop-loving, fomer Naval Aviator (did I mention he was a POW?), All-American Patriot:
Senator John McCain (R-AZ): D (3 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, not a Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsor)
Alas, governors were not included, so no information regarding Ms. Palin.
Check out your state, it's in a better format than last time, and tons of information out there.
So, to review.....
The troop-hating, budget-cutting, cheese-eating surrender monkeys:
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): B (5 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, plus 2 points for Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsorship)
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE): B (6 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, plus 2 points for Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsorship)
And that Troop-loving, fomer Naval Aviator (did I mention he was a POW?), All-American Patriot:
Senator John McCain (R-AZ): D (3 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, not a Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsor)
Alas, governors were not included, so no information regarding Ms. Palin.
Check out your state, it's in a better format than last time, and tons of information out there.
Comment by 
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 12:59:05
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 12:59:05
Morning all.
:thud:
:thud:
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 13:01:36
Thanks Tri -- finally it's working -- I couldn't access it through FaceBook this am...
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 13:01:36
Quote by TriSec:
Ah, the Congressional Report Card website is up now!
So, to review.....
The troop-hating, budget-cutting, cheese-eating surrender monkeys:
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): B (5 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, plus 2 points for Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsorship)
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE): B (6 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, plus 2 points for Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsorship)
And that Troop-loving, fomer Naval Aviator (did I mention he was a POW?), All-American Patriot:
Senator John McCain (R-AZ): D (3 out of 9 votes with IAVA Action, not a Post-9/11 GI Bill cosponsor)
Alas, governors were not included, so no information regarding Ms. Palin.
Check out your state, it's in a better format than last time, and tons of information out there.
Thanks Tri -- finally it's working -- I couldn't access it through FaceBook this am...
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:03:04
TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:03:04
Senator McCain is sure keeping some exclusive company...
Senate "D List"
Below you will find a complete list of Senators who earned a D or lower from IAVA Action this year. These legislators must improve their voting records if they are to legitimately claim that they support our troops and veterans.
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Michael Enzi (R-WY)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Hell, even Joe Lieberman rates an "A" from IAVA....at least he's right about oneissue...
Senate "D List"
Below you will find a complete list of Senators who earned a D or lower from IAVA Action this year. These legislators must improve their voting records if they are to legitimately claim that they support our troops and veterans.
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Michael Enzi (R-WY)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Hell, even Joe Lieberman rates an "A" from IAVA....at least he's right about oneissue...
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 13:06:32
BobR on 10/07/2008 13:06:32
McCain compares his Keating 5 "ordeal" to - you guessed it - being a POW...
:rolleyes2:
EDIT: On a positive note, the Keating 5 story is gaining some traction...
:rolleyes2:
EDIT: On a positive note, the Keating 5 story is gaining some traction...
Comment by 
clintster on 10/07/2008 13:11:48
clintster on 10/07/2008 13:11:48
Oh Grampy, down with the AC/DC. Thanks, DJ!
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 13:12:15
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 13:12:15
DJ - too funny! :lol:
Comment by 
m-hadley on 10/07/2008 13:13:21
m-hadley on 10/07/2008 13:13:21
Mornin' Everybodee :coffee:
That's what I'm waiting for - I'm not taking a sip of nada but agua til Grampy blows a gasket, tonight :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
That's what I'm waiting for - I'm not taking a sip of nada but agua til Grampy blows a gasket, tonight :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:gobama:
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 13:15:28
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 13:15:28
Stop the Madness! :thud:
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 13:20:56
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 13:20:56
See now I thought up the "Senile and the Unstable" the other day.
Comment by clintster on 10/07/2008 13:25:58
clintster on 10/07/2008 13:25:58
Bobber, is it possible that we could add Grampy's "Haah?" as an audiocon? That's my new audio crack.
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 13:28:23
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 13:28:23
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 13:30:23
The same one I sent Chris is an audicon here under { McCainGrunts }
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 13:30:23
Quote by clintster:
Bobber, is it possible that we could add Grampy's "Haah?" as an audiocon? That's my new audio crack.
The same one I sent Chris is an audicon here under { McCainGrunts }
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:33:28
TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:33:28
Once again, Your Loyal TriSec is solely responsible for the Red Sox win last night.
I had the "miracle radio" going early in the game....but this time the batteries did die, around the 6th inning. I checked our 'battery box', no AAs. So, with a sigh, I resigned myself to the fact that the Sox were going down last night.
In the 8th, the A's scored two, and the Sox seemed to be ready to collapse. Now desperate, I searched the house. Finding my flashlight, I pulled two batteries out of that and slammed them in the radio, just in time for the bottom of the 9th.
Within five minutes of my getting the radio back on, Bay crossed the plate for the win.
I solemnly promise the citizens of Red Sox Nation to never let this happen again.
I had the "miracle radio" going early in the game....but this time the batteries did die, around the 6th inning. I checked our 'battery box', no AAs. So, with a sigh, I resigned myself to the fact that the Sox were going down last night.
In the 8th, the A's scored two, and the Sox seemed to be ready to collapse. Now desperate, I searched the house. Finding my flashlight, I pulled two batteries out of that and slammed them in the radio, just in time for the bottom of the 9th.
Within five minutes of my getting the radio back on, Bay crossed the plate for the win.
I solemnly promise the citizens of Red Sox Nation to never let this happen again.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 13:36:33
Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 13:36:33
Gee I said that a few weeks ago!
Comment by clintster on 10/07/2008 13:36:57
Yeah! Thanks, Shane-O!
clintster on 10/07/2008 13:36:57
Yeah! Thanks, Shane-O!
Comment by 
Raine on 10/07/2008 13:38:20
Raine on 10/07/2008 13:38:20
Good Mornnig!
Congrats on the win last night to our Boston fans! My friends, to day were all Boston.
Congrats on the win last night to our Boston fans! My friends, to day were all Boston.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:39:34
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:39:34
grrrrrrrr!!! 
Morning all!
I will be listening to the debate via radio - unless my teenage boss say's "no way dude". :rolleyes:
Hey! Question. If I were to get up on stage and get people chanting "terrorist" and "kill him" regarding Obama, do you think that I'd be arrested for inciting a riot?
Hmmmmm???
So why ain't Palin in jail!
Morning all!
I will be listening to the debate via radio - unless my teenage boss say's "no way dude". :rolleyes:
Hey! Question. If I were to get up on stage and get people chanting "terrorist" and "kill him" regarding Obama, do you think that I'd be arrested for inciting a riot?
Hmmmmm???
So why ain't Palin in jail!
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:40:06
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:40:06
Plane forced to land in Terhan? what?
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 13:40:19
Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 13:40:19
Mama needs her tussy rubbed!
I can do it!
I can do it!
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:42:59
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:42:59
Wow, some plane forced to land in Iran, but CNN not sure if its American, or Iraqi? 
Or if there is a hostage situation!
Or if there is a hostage situation!
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 13:43:56
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 13:43:56
Morning all! :coffee2:
Well last night I made a commitment to get my sleep schedule back on track - after a week of waking up at 2AM for no particular reason, and then either stay up all night playing games OR watching a movie for a couple hours, falling asleep again then waking up late. Saturday was a mess - I was actually awake for something like.. 6 hours? Sunday I woke up at like 3AM, played some games, then took off for canvassing in NH at like 6AM. Got home at about 9, collapsed from exhaustion, woke up again at about 4AM on Monday.
So yesterday.. I worked, came home and was still worn out from all the walking on Sunday. Passed out early again (before KO's comment went off) and when I woke up at 2AM I was like...
NO-IM-GUNNA-SLEEP-NOW! :modbat:
Woke up again at 4AM.. urgh.. forced myself back to sleep...
Then the alarm went off at 5:30. I made it woo!
Now maybe tonite I can stay awake for the entire debate!
Well last night I made a commitment to get my sleep schedule back on track - after a week of waking up at 2AM for no particular reason, and then either stay up all night playing games OR watching a movie for a couple hours, falling asleep again then waking up late. Saturday was a mess - I was actually awake for something like.. 6 hours? Sunday I woke up at like 3AM, played some games, then took off for canvassing in NH at like 6AM. Got home at about 9, collapsed from exhaustion, woke up again at about 4AM on Monday.
So yesterday.. I worked, came home and was still worn out from all the walking on Sunday. Passed out early again (before KO's comment went off) and when I woke up at 2AM I was like...
NO-IM-GUNNA-SLEEP-NOW! :modbat:
Woke up again at 4AM.. urgh.. forced myself back to sleep...
Then the alarm went off at 5:30. I made it woo!
Now maybe tonite I can stay awake for the entire debate!
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 13:44:04
What!?!
Is it on CNN online?
Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 13:44:04
Quote by velveeta jones:
Wow, some plane forced to land in Iran, but CNN not sure if its American, or Iraqi?
What!?!
Is it on CNN online?
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:47:19
Aunt Azalea just screamed it to me, I can't find any mention on the radio. She said someone speculated that it might have been a military plane that was forced down? Weird! And possibly scary.
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:47:19
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by velveeta jones:
Wow, some plane forced to land in Iran, but CNN not sure if its American, or Iraqi?
What!?!
Is it on CNN online?
Aunt Azalea just screamed it to me, I can't find any mention on the radio. She said someone speculated that it might have been a military plane that was forced down? Weird! And possibly scary.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 13:48:48
I see nothing on the TV. WTH. Off to the googletubes.
Raine on 10/07/2008 13:48:48
Quote by velveeta jones:
Plane forced to land in Terhan? what?
I see nothing on the TV. WTH. Off to the googletubes.
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:51:05
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:51:05
Well, I find nothing. I love it when CNN or FOX or whoever, drops some "panic" bomb and then goes to commercial, only to come back and not mention it! GADS!!!
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:51:26
TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:51:26
Only thing on the 'nets is this incident from yesterday:
BAGHDAD, Oct. 6 (Xinhua) -- Iran rejected Monday the landing of a plane carrying Iraqi parliament speaker on its territories, citing a technical problem at the airport.
Iran's embassy in Baghdad said in a statement that Mahmoud al-Mashhadani's plane was refused to land at the Tehran Airport because there was a technical problem on the airport side.
Iraqi media has reported that Mashhadani, a Sunni, was on the way for a one-day visit to Iran.
Iran's Ambassador to Iraq Hassan Kazemi Qomi later met with Mashhadani and apologized for the incident, and Mashhadani's Iranian counterpart Ali Larijani also called to offer his apology, an Iraqi parliament official told Xinhua.
Mashhadani is scheduled to head to Syria on Tuesday to attend the Arab Inter-Parliamentary Union meeting, according to Iraqi media.
BAGHDAD, Oct. 6 (Xinhua) -- Iran rejected Monday the landing of a plane carrying Iraqi parliament speaker on its territories, citing a technical problem at the airport.
Iran's embassy in Baghdad said in a statement that Mahmoud al-Mashhadani's plane was refused to land at the Tehran Airport because there was a technical problem on the airport side.
Iraqi media has reported that Mashhadani, a Sunni, was on the way for a one-day visit to Iran.
Iran's Ambassador to Iraq Hassan Kazemi Qomi later met with Mashhadani and apologized for the incident, and Mashhadani's Iranian counterpart Ali Larijani also called to offer his apology, an Iraqi parliament official told Xinhua.
Mashhadani is scheduled to head to Syria on Tuesday to attend the Arab Inter-Parliamentary Union meeting, according to Iraqi media.
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:52:24
TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:52:24
Ah, here's the BBC:
A foreign aircraft has been forced to land in Iran after violating Iranian airspace, Iranian news agencies say.
The semi-official Fars said the plane was a US Falcon, while state TV said it belonged to a European aid agency.
Both reports said those on board were released a day later, without saying when the event happened.
The Pentagon denied any of its aircraft had been involved in such an incident, saying all were accounted for and that none had landed in Iran.
The Fars report said the aircraft entered Iranian airspace from Turkey, flying at low altitude to avoid radar.
It said the plane was intercepted by Iranian fighter jets and forced to land at an undisclosed airport.
It said its occupants were released a day later after it became clear they had entered the country unintentionally.
A foreign aircraft has been forced to land in Iran after violating Iranian airspace, Iranian news agencies say.
The semi-official Fars said the plane was a US Falcon, while state TV said it belonged to a European aid agency.
Both reports said those on board were released a day later, without saying when the event happened.
The Pentagon denied any of its aircraft had been involved in such an incident, saying all were accounted for and that none had landed in Iran.
The Fars report said the aircraft entered Iranian airspace from Turkey, flying at low altitude to avoid radar.
It said the plane was intercepted by Iranian fighter jets and forced to land at an undisclosed airport.
It said its occupants were released a day later after it became clear they had entered the country unintentionally.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 13:52:50
Raine on 10/07/2008 13:52:50
From the BBC:
A foreign aircraft has been forced to land in Iran after violating Iranian airspace, Iranian news agencies say.
The semi-official Fars said the plane was a US Falcon, while state TV said it belonged to a European aid agency.
Both reports said those on board were released a day later, without saying when the event happened.
The Pentagon denied any of its aircraft had been involved in such an incident, saying all were accounted for and that none had landed in Iran.
The Fars report said the aircraft entered Iranian airspace from Turkey, flying at low altitude to avoid radar.
It said the plane was intercepted by Iranian fighter jets and forced to land at an undisclosed airport.
It said its occupants were released a day later after it became clear they had entered the country unintentionally.
A foreign aircraft has been forced to land in Iran after violating Iranian airspace, Iranian news agencies say.
The semi-official Fars said the plane was a US Falcon, while state TV said it belonged to a European aid agency.
Both reports said those on board were released a day later, without saying when the event happened.
The Pentagon denied any of its aircraft had been involved in such an incident, saying all were accounted for and that none had landed in Iran.
The Fars report said the aircraft entered Iranian airspace from Turkey, flying at low altitude to avoid radar.
It said the plane was intercepted by Iranian fighter jets and forced to land at an undisclosed airport.
It said its occupants were released a day later after it became clear they had entered the country unintentionally.
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:55:45
TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:55:45
Al-Jazeera and what appears to be the "Iran News Daily" are quiet about this.
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:55:52
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 13:55:52
Sorry to be a part of the panic........
:kickcan:
:kickcan:
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 13:56:21
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 13:56:21
And by the way Tri.. now that the Sox have made it to the next round, I'll be glad to root for our hometown boy Rocco Baldelli to whack out some homahs!
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 13:58:49
Dear gawd.
If the man poops the wrong way, he'd compare it to being a POW.
Raine on 10/07/2008 13:58:49
Quote by BobR:
McCain compares his Keating 5 "ordeal" to - you guessed it - being a POW...
:rolleyes2:
EDIT: On a positive note, the Keating 5 story is gaining some traction...
Dear gawd.
If the man poops the wrong way, he'd compare it to being a POW.
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:59:56
TriSec on 10/07/2008 13:59:56
That's OK, I'll yield the field for a good home-town boy showing. Hell, they can even win a game at Fenway if they like...just as long as we don't lose the war, that's all.
:peace:
:peace:
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 14:01:50
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 14:01:50
Wingnuts are now copying and "fixing" youtube video titles so they can create a fake conspiracy.
And we thought it was bad when these idiots were vandalizing Wikipedia..
And we thought it was bad when these idiots were vandalizing Wikipedia..
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 14:02:33
:McCain looks at poll numbers:
"My friends... I haven't pooped my pants like this since I was a POW..."
BobR on 10/07/2008 14:02:33
Quote by Raine:
Dear gawd.
If the man poops the wrong way, he'd compare it to being a POW.
:McCain looks at poll numbers:
"My friends... I haven't pooped my pants like this since I was a POW..."
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:03:55
naw... it is mos def something to be concerned about. I smell shiny keys.
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:03:55
Quote by velveeta jones:
Sorry to be a part of the panic........
:kickcan:
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 14:07:21
I do too, but if it was something, you'd think Iran and Al-Jazeera would be all over it as a propaganda exercise. It's still too quiet.
However, it's worth noting that it was a Dassault Falcon...generally used as a transport, search and rescue (by the USCG mostly) and aid courier. Usually not as a spy plane, but that doesn't mean they couldn't.
TriSec on 10/07/2008 14:07:21
Quote by Raine:naw... it is mos def something to be concerned about. I smell shiny keys.Quote by velveeta jones:
Sorry to be a part of the panic........
:kickcan:
I do too, but if it was something, you'd think Iran and Al-Jazeera would be all over it as a propaganda exercise. It's still too quiet.
However, it's worth noting that it was a Dassault Falcon...generally used as a transport, search and rescue (by the USCG mostly) and aid courier. Usually not as a spy plane, but that doesn't mean they couldn't.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:09:04
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:09:04
The AP is reporting the John McCain has been linked to Iran Contra.
Interesting that the news outlets are finally doing a little reporting about John MCCain.
Interesting that the news outlets are finally doing a little reporting about John MCCain.
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:13:30
livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:13:30
Good morning everyone. 
So, as Grampy becomes more exposed, will he become even more crazy while trying to claim sympathy for being a POW.
My sleep was very off and on last night so I may get a little out of it as the day progresses.
So, as Grampy becomes more exposed, will he become even more crazy while trying to claim sympathy for being a POW.
My sleep was very off and on last night so I may get a little out of it as the day progresses.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:13:46
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:13:46
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 14:16:07
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 14:16:07
:lol: Raine I think you linked the McCain-Contra story twice there!
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 14:16:54
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 14:16:54
As annoying? :
Course, DJ just uses all my drops...
Cranky - sorry.
Course, DJ just uses all my drops...
Cranky - sorry.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:18:38
:doh:
here ya go!
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:18:38
Quote by Scoopster:
:lol: Raine I think you linked the McCain-Contra story twice there!
:doh:
here ya go!
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 14:19:00
TriSec on 10/07/2008 14:19:00
Senator TriSec, what is your opinion on guns?
"I hate 'em. I've never owned one, never shot anything with one, and haven't even fired one since I was a boy at Scout Camp. I believe in the second Ammendment, if people want to own one, that's fine, but expect to be heavily regulated as specified by the founding fathers..."
Just once, I want a candidate to say that, or something similar.
I mean, really. What does a modern politician need with a gun in the mean streets of Washington, DC? (Here, Governor Palin would be an exception...you probably still need a gun in Anchorage or Juneau.)
"I hate 'em. I've never owned one, never shot anything with one, and haven't even fired one since I was a boy at Scout Camp. I believe in the second Ammendment, if people want to own one, that's fine, but expect to be heavily regulated as specified by the founding fathers..."
Just once, I want a candidate to say that, or something similar.
I mean, really. What does a modern politician need with a gun in the mean streets of Washington, DC? (Here, Governor Palin would be an exception...you probably still need a gun in Anchorage or Juneau.)
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:19:11
:hug:
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:19:11
Quote by Shane-O:
As annoying? :
Course, DJ just uses all my drops...
Cranky - sorry.
:hug:
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:19:23
livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:19:23
My Congresswoman made the A-List on the IAVA report card.
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 14:19:33
You're still the king of mixes Shane-O! You ROCK!! :stroke ego: :D
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 14:19:33
Quote by Shane-O:
As annoying? :
Course, DJ just uses all my drops...
Cranky - sorry.
You're still the king of mixes Shane-O! You ROCK!! :stroke ego: :D
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:20:12
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:20:12
or it could be like me trying to take the "r" outof worsh (wash)
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:20:26
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:20:26
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:21:03
livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:21:03
Former GOP candidates Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul were also on the D list.
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 14:21:55
Thanks VJ - Raine too.
Sorry 'bout that -- I just need some sleep (been awake since 6 am yesterday - eep!)
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 14:21:55
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Shane-O:
As annoying? :
Course, DJ just uses all my drops...
Cranky - sorry.
You're still the king of mixes Shane-O! You ROCK!! :stroke ego: :D
Thanks VJ - Raine too.
Sorry 'bout that -- I just need some sleep (been awake since 6 am yesterday - eep!)
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:25:05
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:25:05
Tom Tom Club!!!~
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:28:23
:rofl:
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:28:23
:rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:35:06
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:35:06
thank you Chris! it is indeed a regional accent thanks to Philly and Baltimore
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:36:44
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:36:44
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 14:41:24
TriSec on 10/07/2008 14:41:24
Boehner chased out of office by bacon
WEST CHESTER, Ohio—The office of an Ohio congressman who has fought against pork barrel spending was evacuated over a suspicious package that turned out to be full of bacon.
Staff members at the office of House Minority Leader John Boehner (BAY'-nur) became concerned Monday after finding an envelope leaking an oily substance. Police evacuated several buildings before determining the package postmarked from Georgia contained bacon.
A note was included with the bacon, but police didn't commenting on its contents.
Boehner was not in the office.
A spokeswoman says it's ironic someone would send Boehner bacon because he has spent his career fighting pork-barrel spending. He's one of the few members of Congress who shuns earmarks, those home-district projects sought by lawmakers.
However, the Republican has drawn criticism for voting for a $700 billion financial bailout bill that critics say was loaded with pork.
WEST CHESTER, Ohio—The office of an Ohio congressman who has fought against pork barrel spending was evacuated over a suspicious package that turned out to be full of bacon.
Staff members at the office of House Minority Leader John Boehner (BAY'-nur) became concerned Monday after finding an envelope leaking an oily substance. Police evacuated several buildings before determining the package postmarked from Georgia contained bacon.
A note was included with the bacon, but police didn't commenting on its contents.
Boehner was not in the office.
A spokeswoman says it's ironic someone would send Boehner bacon because he has spent his career fighting pork-barrel spending. He's one of the few members of Congress who shuns earmarks, those home-district projects sought by lawmakers.
However, the Republican has drawn criticism for voting for a $700 billion financial bailout bill that critics say was loaded with pork.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:42:21
This woman incites this kind of reaction in people.
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:42:21
Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."
This woman incites this kind of reaction in people.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:42:24
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:42:24
I truely, truely, truely dislike that woman. 
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:44:03
livingonli on 10/07/2008 14:44:03
Sarah Palin needs to be brought down several pegs.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:51:08
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 14:51:08
love the giggle!
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 14:53:01
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 14:53:01
American Hunters & Shooters Association - the NRA Alternative
Screw Wayne LaPierre and his gun industry stock portfolio. AHSA has endorsed Obama as well.
Screw Wayne LaPierre and his gun industry stock portfolio. AHSA has endorsed Obama as well.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 14:54:15
Raine on 10/07/2008 14:54:15
That woman is faking her accent. It just keeps getting more and more twangy.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 15:01:08
This is tempting me to go Godwin...
BobR on 10/07/2008 15:01:08
Quote by Raine:Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."
This woman incites this kind of reaction in people.
This is tempting me to go Godwin...
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 15:01:11
She needs to have her mouth stuffed with the shit that comes out of it.
Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 15:01:11
Quote by livingonli:
Sarah Palin needs to be brought down several pegs.
She needs to have her mouth stuffed with the shit that comes out of it.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:04:02
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:04:02
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/06/sarah-s-doodles.aspx
On a recent reporting trip to Alaska, TNR senior editor Noam Scheiber came across a piece of paper from an old Wasilla city budget, on the back of which Palin doodled and brainstormed her potential mayoral campaign themes ("time for a change," "you would be my boss!") and qualifications ("life-long alaskan," "NRA supporter," "taxpayer!"). Read the fine print on this 1996 document; it's a fascinating glimpse into how she thought she could best present herself to the Wasilla electorate.
This is a large version of the document. it is a pdf.
On a recent reporting trip to Alaska, TNR senior editor Noam Scheiber came across a piece of paper from an old Wasilla city budget, on the back of which Palin doodled and brainstormed her potential mayoral campaign themes ("time for a change," "you would be my boss!") and qualifications ("life-long alaskan," "NRA supporter," "taxpayer!"). Read the fine print on this 1996 document; it's a fascinating glimpse into how she thought she could best present herself to the Wasilla electorate.
This is a large version of the document. it is a pdf.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:12:29
I swear, I had nothing to do with it!!!
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:12:29
Quote by TriSec:
Boehner chased out of office by bacon
WEST CHESTER, Ohio—The office of an Ohio congressman who has fought against pork barrel spending was evacuated over a suspicious package that turned out to be full of bacon.
Staff members at the office of House Minority Leader John Boehner (BAY'-nur) became concerned Monday after finding an envelope leaking an oily substance. Police evacuated several buildings before determining the package postmarked from Georgia contained bacon.
A note was included with the bacon, but police didn't commenting on its contents.
Boehner was not in the office.
A spokeswoman says it's ironic someone would send Boehner bacon because he has spent his career fighting pork-barrel spending. He's one of the few members of Congress who shuns earmarks, those home-district projects sought by lawmakers.
However, the Republican has drawn criticism for voting for a $700 billion financial bailout bill that critics say was loaded with pork.
I swear, I had nothing to do with it!!!
A suspicious package found at Congressman John Boehner's campaign office on Cincinnati Dayton Road turns out to be a package of bacon.
The envelope arrived with this afternoon's mail. It was from Georgia, and had a stain on it.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 15:13:48
BobR on 10/07/2008 15:13:48
Happy Pants! :penis:
:penis:
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 15:14:15
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 15:14:15
The View: Sharri the repub, just came alive and gave Elisabitch the "Oh no you di'nt" and called her ass out!!!!! :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:17:19
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:17:19
Louisiana lawmaker stripped of health committee post for proposing to sterilize low-income women
To follow up on Bobber's blog from a little back.
To follow up on Bobber's blog from a little back.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:17:54
I thought I heard your pants ringing!
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:17:54
Quote by BobR:
Happy Pants!
I thought I heard your pants ringing!
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:18:47
I wish she would just go away. I find that little blonde twit very hard to watch.
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:18:47
Quote by velveeta jones:
The View: Sharri the repub, just came alive and gave Elisabitch the "Oh no you di'nt" and called her ass out!!!!! :rofl:
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 15:21:08
:o I swear that looks like satire.
BobR on 10/07/2008 15:21:08
Quote by Raine:
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/06/sarah-s-doodles.aspx
On a recent reporting trip to Alaska, TNR senior editor Noam Scheiber came across a piece of paper from an old Wasilla city budget, on the back of which Palin doodled and brainstormed her potential mayoral campaign themes ("time for a change," "you would be my boss!") and qualifications ("life-long alaskan," "NRA supporter," "taxpayer!"). Read the fine print on this 1996 document; it's a fascinating glimpse into how she thought she could best present herself to the Wasilla electorate.
This is a large version of the document. it is a pdf.
:o I swear that looks like satire.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 15:22:17
Who is "Sharri the repub"? :scratchhead:
BobR on 10/07/2008 15:22:17
Quote by velveeta jones:
The View: Sharri the repub, just came alive and gave Elisabitch the "Oh no you di'nt" and called her ass out!!!!! :rofl:
Who is "Sharri the repub"? :scratchhead:
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:27:51
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:27:51
Velveeta, I heard that Joy almost walked off the set, is this true?
Comment by wickedpam on 10/07/2008 15:31:16
was that the one where elisabitch said "smearing was okay"
wickedpam on 10/07/2008 15:31:16
Quote by velveeta jones:
The View: Sharri the repub, just came alive and gave Elisabitch the "Oh no you di'nt" and called her ass out!!!!! :rofl:
was that the one where elisabitch said "smearing was okay"
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 15:32:36
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 15:32:36
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:34:29
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:34:29
4 minute Video that discusses Sarah Palin and the Rape kits. It's very good and well done.
Has some interesting shots of Wasilla as well.
Has some interesting shots of Wasilla as well.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 15:38:18
BobR on 10/07/2008 15:38:18
Quote by Shane-O:
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 15:42:06
Dunno. I get my View info second hand, I'm busy compiling all my paperwork for my pet death lawsuit. So much paperwork. :wacko:
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 15:42:06
Quote by Raine:
Velveeta, I heard that Joy almost walked off the set, is this true?
Dunno. I get my View info second hand, I'm busy compiling all my paperwork for my pet death lawsuit. So much paperwork. :wacko:
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 15:52:13
TriSec on 10/07/2008 15:52:13
Attention, New England bloggers!
It's WWII weekend at the Collings Foundation!
I'm shooting for the 3:30 action this Sunday. If anyone else can make it on short notice, an impromptu meetup is possible.
{Directions to the Foundation in Stow, MA (off route 495) at the link. It's a charitable foundation, so a minimal donation is needed at the gate.}
It's WWII weekend at the Collings Foundation!
I'm shooting for the 3:30 action this Sunday. If anyone else can make it on short notice, an impromptu meetup is possible.
{Directions to the Foundation in Stow, MA (off route 495) at the link. It's a charitable foundation, so a minimal donation is needed at the gate.}
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 15:52:57
That was on The Rachel Madow Countdown With Keith Olberman Show. Seriously, I don't remember which.
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 15:52:57
Quote by Raine:
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/06/sarah-s-doodles.aspx
On a recent reporting trip to Alaska, TNR senior editor Noam Scheiber came across a piece of paper from an old Wasilla city budget, on the back of which Palin doodled and brainstormed her potential mayoral campaign themes ("time for a change," "you would be my boss!") and qualifications ("life-long alaskan," "NRA supporter," "taxpayer!"). Read the fine print on this 1996 document; it's a fascinating glimpse into how she thought she could best present herself to the Wasilla electorate.
This is a large version of the document. it is a pdf.
That was on The Rachel Madow Countdown With Keith Olberman Show. Seriously, I don't remember which.
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 15:54:00
livingonli on 10/07/2008 15:54:00
Sarah Silverman was just on the View. Too bad I missed Shoot the Messenger since she was the guest. She does a very funny PSA where she is playing herself as a supporter of the Iraq occupation.
Comment by velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 15:55:48
velveeta jones on 10/07/2008 15:55:48
Oh why can't I have Shane-O's "Guys and Gals" drop as my ringtone!!!! I WANT IT!!! 
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 15:56:19
It looks like it was written by someone in High School who was scribbling on the back ot their notebook out of boredom.
livingonli on 10/07/2008 15:56:19
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/06/sarah-s-doodles.aspx
On a recent reporting trip to Alaska, TNR senior editor Noam Scheiber came across a piece of paper from an old Wasilla city budget, on the back of which Palin doodled and brainstormed her potential mayoral campaign themes ("time for a change," "you would be my boss!") and qualifications ("life-long alaskan," "NRA supporter," "taxpayer!"). Read the fine print on this 1996 document; it's a fascinating glimpse into how she thought she could best present herself to the Wasilla electorate.
This is a large version of the document. it is a pdf.
That was on The Rachel Madow Countdown With Keith Olberman Show. Seriously, I don't remember which.
It looks like it was written by someone in High School who was scribbling on the back ot their notebook out of boredom.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 15:59:17
I have had conversations like this.
I love this comic strip, 'get your war on' I didn't know it is now animated.
Raine on 10/07/2008 15:59:17
I have had conversations like this.
I love this comic strip, 'get your war on' I didn't know it is now animated.
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 16:00:56
Can you upload .mp3's to your phone? -- I betcha someone could gettem to ya!
- And I also betcha ya mean Bobber's Guys and Gals mix - yes? ---
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 16:00:56
Quote by velveeta jones:
Oh why can't I have Shane-O's "Guys and Gals" drop as my ringtone!!!! I WANT IT!!!
Can you upload .mp3's to your phone? -- I betcha someone could gettem to ya!
- And I also betcha ya mean Bobber's Guys and Gals mix - yes? ---
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 16:07:37
Raine on 10/07/2008 16:07:37
:thud:
Thom actually said that Sarah is inciting violence. I do believe he is the foirst to actaully SAY that.
Thom actually said that Sarah is inciting violence. I do believe he is the foirst to actaully SAY that.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 16:08:48
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 16:08:48
Comment by Shane-O on 10/07/2008 16:15:27
Shane-O on 10/07/2008 16:15:27
If only Tom Brokaw was moderating tonight's debate at Loyola's College of Journalism.... that would make for a good Lllll-augh... :)
Crashing now - see y'all llll-ater.... :p
Crashing now - see y'all llll-ater.... :p
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 16:17:07
I guess that rose has withered.
livingonli on 10/07/2008 16:17:07
Quote by Mondobubba:
Sarah Palin draws less than 1/2 the number that Obama did.
I guess that rose has withered.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 16:20:51
"Maybe McCain wants to build a rape-based economy"
:rofl:
too funny, except that there probably are idiots that think that way...
BobR on 10/07/2008 16:20:51
Quote by Raine:
I have had conversations like this.
I love this comic strip, 'get your war on' I didn't know it is now animated.
"Maybe McCain wants to build a rape-based economy"
:rofl:
too funny, except that there probably are idiots that think that way...
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 16:24:19
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 16:24:19
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Microsoft finally gives a head-nod to the fact that Vista sucks balls.
In the latest indication that Windows Vista's not one of Redmond's greatest hits, Windows XP (aka "The operating system that will not die") has won another reprieve. Friday, Microsoft confirmed rumors that OEMs bundling Windows Vista Ultimate or Vista Business can continue to order media for downgrades to Windows XP Professional until July 31, 2009. Jan. 31, 2009 remains the deadline for system builders (aka "the corner computer store") to buy Windows XP licenses for their systems.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 16:24:55
Raine on 10/07/2008 16:24:55
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 16:26:10
I heard that - good for him! :clap:
BobR on 10/07/2008 16:26:10
Quote by Raine:
:thud:
Thom actually said that Sarah is inciting violence. I do believe he is the foirst to actaully SAY that.
I heard that - good for him! :clap:
Comment by 
MMB on 10/07/2008 16:27:52
MMB on 10/07/2008 16:27:52
I am going to slit my throat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mom says i am not voting for Obama he has to much of a sneaky background besides nobody can change anything in Washinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess Grampy has a angelic background. My blood pressure is soaring i told her if you get one benefit from a Obama presidency turn it back in to the govt. 
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 16:28:02
gnite Shane!
Raine on 10/07/2008 16:28:02
Quote by Shane-O:
If only Tom Brokaw was moderating tonight's debate at Loyola's College of Journalism.... that would make for a good Lllll-augh... :)
Crashing now - see y'all llll-ater.... :p
gnite Shane!
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 16:30:31
That's great! I refuse to use Vista on my own PC. I've had to use it at work for a test PC... it makes things that used to be simple way too difficult. It's also interesting that MS recently released SP3 for XP, when XP was supposedly a "dead" O/S...
BobR on 10/07/2008 16:30:31
Quote by Scoopster:
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Microsoft finally gives a head-nod to the fact that Vista sucks balls.
That's great! I refuse to use Vista on my own PC. I've had to use it at work for a test PC... it makes things that used to be simple way too difficult. It's also interesting that MS recently released SP3 for XP, when XP was supposedly a "dead" O/S...
Comment by 
Random on 10/07/2008 16:34:38
Random on 10/07/2008 16:34:38
Since little attention is paid to random and his idiotic thoughts, i feel comfortable saying something i noticed.
This general election is strangly mimicing the Democratic Primary. A candidate solidly in the lead, playing a great game, with only a few stumbles. The oponent making mistakes left and right, and in the final stretch needs to play a near perfect.
And like said previous campaign, the gloves are off and attacks are flying, and we all know how well that worked out before.
This election is in the bag.
This general election is strangly mimicing the Democratic Primary. A candidate solidly in the lead, playing a great game, with only a few stumbles. The oponent making mistakes left and right, and in the final stretch needs to play a near perfect.
And like said previous campaign, the gloves are off and attacks are flying, and we all know how well that worked out before.
This election is in the bag.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 16:40:18
I don't want to speak ill of your mother, but I think some people are prejudiced and are looking for any excuse not to vote for him. If she thinks nobody can change anything, why is she voting at all? Why bother?
Perhaps you could print out how all of that "sneaky" stuff has been debunked at Snopes.com and hand it to her. If she's not interested in reading it, then it shows she's not interested in making an informed decision, she's only interested in finding an excuse to not vote for him.
BobR on 10/07/2008 16:40:18
Quote by MMB:
I am going to slit my throat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mom says i am not voting for Obama he has to much of a sneaky background besides nobody can change anything in Washinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess Grampy has a angelic background. My blood pressure is soaring i told her if you get one benefit from a Obama presidency turn it back in to the govt.
I don't want to speak ill of your mother, but I think some people are prejudiced and are looking for any excuse not to vote for him. If she thinks nobody can change anything, why is she voting at all? Why bother?
Perhaps you could print out how all of that "sneaky" stuff has been debunked at Snopes.com and hand it to her. If she's not interested in reading it, then it shows she's not interested in making an informed decision, she's only interested in finding an excuse to not vote for him.
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 16:42:35
livingonli on 10/07/2008 16:42:35
Heya Random. How's tricks? You're going to be here for the debate tonight?
Right now, Bridges TV which I get on Fios is running yesterday's Democracy Now with Naomi Klein but I missed part of it because I didn't know they changed the time. She is actually at the University of Chicago where the whole Chicago school philosophy comes from. Milton Friedman, may you burn in hell.
Right now, Bridges TV which I get on Fios is running yesterday's Democracy Now with Naomi Klein but I missed part of it because I didn't know they changed the time. She is actually at the University of Chicago where the whole Chicago school philosophy comes from. Milton Friedman, may you burn in hell.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 16:43:12
While I agree with you, it would be prudent to avoid complacency. I won't consider it "in the bag" until Obama is taking the oath of office.
BobR on 10/07/2008 16:43:12
Quote by Random:
Since little attention is paid to random and his idiotic thoughts, i feel comfortable saying something i noticed.
This general election is strangly mimicing the Democratic Primary. A candidate solidly in the lead, playing a great game, with only a few stumbles. The oponent making mistakes left and right, and in the final stretch needs to play a near perfect.
And like said previous campaign, the gloves are off and attacks are flying, and we all know how well that worked out before.
This election is in the bag.
While I agree with you, it would be prudent to avoid complacency. I won't consider it "in the bag" until Obama is taking the oath of office.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 16:44:41
Raine on 10/07/2008 16:44:41
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 16:53:59
******* Audio NOT work safe ********
So wear head phones. It's hysterical .
"Hey Sarah Palin" (to "Hey There Delilah")
Hilarious!!
Raine on 10/07/2008 16:53:59
So wear head phones. It's hysterical .
Hilarious!!
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 16:54:34
Random on 10/07/2008 16:54:34
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 16:56:14
I'm going to vote, even if Obama is a head in all 50 states, so you don't have to worry about just skippin out on election day from me. And I'm young, naive, I like beleive the one I'm supporting will win. So don't take that hope away from me.
Random on 10/07/2008 16:56:14
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Since little attention is paid to random and his idiotic thoughts, i feel comfortable saying something i noticed.
This general election is strangly mimicing the Democratic Primary. A candidate solidly in the lead, playing a great game, with only a few stumbles. The oponent making mistakes left and right, and in the final stretch needs to play a near perfect.
And like said previous campaign, the gloves are off and attacks are flying, and we all know how well that worked out before.
This election is in the bag.
While I agree with you, it would be prudent to avoid complacency. I won't consider it "in the bag" until Obama is taking the oath of office.
I'm going to vote, even if Obama is a head in all 50 states, so you don't have to worry about just skippin out on election day from me. And I'm young, naive, I like beleive the one I'm supporting will win. So don't take that hope away from me.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 17:06:02
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 17:06:02
Man shot three times in London for wearing an Obama tee-shirt..
And yes, it's London in the UK, not London Kentucky.
And yes, it's London in the UK, not London Kentucky.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 17:06:05
:spit: It is the highest compliment that I, Mondo can give.
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 17:06:05
Quote by Raine:******* Audio NOT work safe ********
So wear head phones. It's hysterical ."Hey Sarah Palin" (to "Hey There Delilah")
Hilarious!!
:spit:
It is the highest compliment that I, Mondo can give.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 17:09:15
"But the shaven-headed man, who was white..." Why that is a very polite, discrete way of saying racist skinhead.
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 17:09:15
Quote by Scoopster:
Man shot three times in London for wearing an Obama tee-shirt..
And yes, it's London in the UK, not London Kentucky.
"But the shaven-headed man, who was white..." Why that is a very polite, discrete way of saying racist skinhead.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 17:12:42
Raine on 10/07/2008 17:12:42
Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 17:16:41
Not like I'd say much.
Random on 10/07/2008 17:16:41
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
Not like I'd say much.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 17:20:14
Scoop, by saying Vista sucks balls you are implying that using Vista is somehow pleasurable (I for one, never mind...). Which is far from the case. I would say Vista, like Kenny G, blows goats.
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 17:20:14
Quote by Scoopster:
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! Microsoft finally gives a head-nod to the fact that Vista sucks balls.
Scoop, by saying Vista sucks balls you are implying that using Vista is somehow pleasurable (I for one, never mind...). Which is far from the case. I would say Vista, like Kenny G, blows goats.
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 17:27:46
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
TriSec on 10/07/2008 17:27:46
Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 17:30:08
NEVER my dear Random™!!!
:hug:
Raine on 10/07/2008 17:30:08
Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Since little attention is paid to random and his idiotic thoughts, i feel comfortable saying something i noticed.
This general election is strangly mimicing the Democratic Primary. A candidate solidly in the lead, playing a great game, with only a few stumbles. The oponent making mistakes left and right, and in the final stretch needs to play a near perfect.
And like said previous campaign, the gloves are off and attacks are flying, and we all know how well that worked out before.
This election is in the bag.
While I agree with you, it would be prudent to avoid complacency. I won't consider it "in the bag" until Obama is taking the oath of office.
I'm going to vote, even if Obama is a head in all 50 states, so you don't have to worry about just skippin out on election day from me. And I'm young, naive, I like beleive the one I'm supporting will win. So don't take that hope away from me.
NEVER my dear Random™!!!
:hug:
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 17:35:08
I am looking for a good Bingo Game. There are a LOT of them out there, just trying to find the right one.
Raine on 10/07/2008 17:35:08
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 17:35:30
I'm keeping mine simple tonight - gonna just drink rum & cokes when I want, but if McCain drops a N-bomb I'm gonna do a
and immediately donate 50 bucks to Obama.
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 17:35:30
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
I'm keeping mine simple tonight - gonna just drink rum & cokes when I want, but if McCain drops a N-bomb I'm gonna do a
and immediately donate 50 bucks to Obama.
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 17:37:02
If he drops the N-bomb, down a bottle of your most expensive stuff, donate 50 dollars and watch as The map is 100% Blue.
Random on 10/07/2008 17:37:02
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
I'm keeping mine simple tonight - gonna just drink rum & cokes when I want, but if McCain drops a N-bomb I'm gonna do a
If he drops the N-bomb, down a bottle of your most expensive stuff, donate 50 dollars and watch as The map is 100% Blue.
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 17:38:09
Let's put it this way, I can't skip out on class, or at least publically say that i am, lol.
That and i don't have my laptop anymore, so i can't watch and post at the same time...
I miss my laptop.
Random on 10/07/2008 17:38:09
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
Let's put it this way, I can't skip out on class, or at least publically say that i am, lol.
That and i don't have my laptop anymore, so i can't watch and post at the same time...
I miss my laptop.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 17:47:49
From HuffPo, video at the link.
Let me tell you, if that little fela of a brain EVER told me to relax, I would, AFTER I thwopped her head.
Raine on 10/07/2008 17:47:49
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Raine:
Velveeta, I heard that Joy almost walked off the set, is this true?
Dunno. I get my View info second hand, I'm busy compiling all my paperwork for my pet death lawsuit. So much paperwork. :wacko:
From HuffPo, video at the link.
Let me tell you, if that little fela of a brain EVER told me to relax, I would, AFTER I thwopped her head.
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 17:50:52
Raine picks VP bingo game.
Raine wins VP bingo game.
Coincidence?
Discuss.
TriSec on 10/07/2008 17:50:52
Quote by Raine:
I am looking for a good Bingo Game. There are a LOT of them out there, just trying to find the right one.
Raine picks VP bingo game.
Raine wins VP bingo game.
Coincidence?
Discuss.
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 17:51:35
What happened to the laptop?
livingonli on 10/07/2008 17:51:35
Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
Let's put it this way, I can't skip out on class, or at least publically say that i am, lol.
That and i don't have my laptop anymore, so i can't watch and post at the same time...
I miss my laptop.
What happened to the laptop?
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 17:59:52
How about that! The beer currently on the front page there is from Terrapin Brewing in Athens, GA!
BobR on 10/07/2008 17:59:52
Quote by Raine:
I found out WHO Sarah is talking about!!!
How about that! The beer currently on the front page there is from Terrapin Brewing in Athens, GA!
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 18:03:04
The fan quit workin in it. (I drop my Gs too Mrs Palin). Because it was impossible to get to the fan without preformin brain surgeory on the damn thing, i had to take it to a local shop. (Which was 95 + parts instead of 179 + parts at CompUSA)
So I'm waitin for it to get fixed, hopefully today.
Random on 10/07/2008 18:03:04
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
Let's put it this way, I can't skip out on class, or at least publically say that i am, lol.
That and i don't have my laptop anymore, so i can't watch and post at the same time...
I miss my laptop.
What happened to the laptop?
The fan quit workin in it. (I drop my Gs too Mrs Palin). Because it was impossible to get to the fan without preformin brain surgeory on the damn thing, i had to take it to a local shop. (Which was 95 + parts instead of 179 + parts at CompUSA)
So I'm waitin for it to get fixed, hopefully today.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 18:04:28
:modbat:
:rofl:
Raine on 10/07/2008 18:04:28
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
I am looking for a good Bingo Game. There are a LOT of them out there, just trying to find the right one.
Raine picks VP bingo game.
Raine wins VP bingo game.
Coincidence?
Discuss.
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 18:07:29
Raine on 10/07/2008 18:07:29
:puke: *ush is on the TV.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/07/2008 18:08:21
Tri I think in this instance, I'd go halfsies on a bottle of Blue Label with ya.
Scoopster on 10/07/2008 18:08:21
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
I'm keeping mine simple tonight - gonna just drink rum & cokes when I want, but if McCain drops a N-bomb I'm gonna do a
If he drops the N-bomb, down a bottle of your most expensive stuff, donate 50 dollars and watch as The map is 100% Blue.
Tri I think in this instance, I'd go halfsies on a bottle of Blue Label with ya.
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 18:11:59
Random almost wishes he drank. The most expensive stuff he has is a half a 2 liter of sprite.
Random on 10/07/2008 18:11:59
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Nah, got class tonight, so doubt i'll have time to be here.
I had class too, but I just blew it off. (probably easier for me, it's music school...)
Anyway. Is there a drinking game, or have I missed that already?
I'm keeping mine simple tonight - gonna just drink rum & cokes when I want, but if McCain drops a N-bomb I'm gonna do a
If he drops the N-bomb, down a bottle of your most expensive stuff, donate 50 dollars and watch as The map is 100% Blue.
Tri I think in this instance, I'd go halfsies on a bottle of Blue Label with ya.
Random almost wishes he drank. The most expensive stuff he has is a half a 2 liter of sprite.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 18:14:46
Blue Label?
Heathens. :snooty:
It's single malt or nuthin...
BobR on 10/07/2008 18:14:46
Quote by Scoopster:
Tri I think in this instance, I'd go halfsies on a bottle of Blue Label with ya.
Blue Label?
Heathens. :snooty:
It's single malt or nuthin...
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 18:31:53
Grumpymann on 10/07/2008 18:31:53
Comment by Random on 10/07/2008 18:31:55
Random on 10/07/2008 18:31:55
Please excuse Random as he is working on His Japanese Studies.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 18:50:47
Raine on 10/07/2008 18:50:47
She handles the protesters Just fine... And yet says NOTHING when they yell Kill him, or call him a terrorist, etc.
So you see how it is now?
So you see how it is now?
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 18:56:50
How many people have been maimed or killed because of the right wing hate mongering?
Raine on 10/07/2008 18:56:50
Quote by Grumpymann:
Read it for yourself and remember this is not even in the US
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 19:05:01
livingonli on 10/07/2008 19:05:01
Time for me to go head off to the salt mine.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 19:17:22
Raine on 10/07/2008 19:17:22
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 19:26:07
TriSec on 10/07/2008 19:26:07
Hey gang, stocks fell another 400 points while we weren't looking this afternoon...
(hovering around 389 down right now.)
(hovering around 389 down right now.)
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 19:47:16
Raine on 10/07/2008 19:47:16
stealbackyourvote.org ------------------------------------------------->
We have a link right here folks!!!
We have a link right here folks!!!
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 19:49:05
Down about 450...
Raine on 10/07/2008 19:49:05
Quote by TriSec:
Hey gang, stocks fell another 400 points while we weren't looking this afternoon...
(hovering around 389 down right now.)
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 19:51:25
Raine on 10/07/2008 19:51:25
Now the press is forbidden to talk to Palin supporters.
Basically they have been herded into a *free Speach* zone.
Wonder how THEY like it now.
Basically they have been herded into a *free Speach* zone.
Wonder how THEY like it now.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 19:51:50
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 19:51:50
It is on neighbor bitches! A second McCain/Palin sign is up. No Obama signs to be had at the County Dems, but the Jay McGovern sign will tide me over until next Wednesdee.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 19:54:54
Raine on 10/07/2008 19:54:54
5 minutes to go... the market is sitting at 9500.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 19:56:12
Raine on 10/07/2008 19:56:12
dropped below 9500... :nervous:
And to commercial we go.
And to commercial we go.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 20:07:10
We made our own Obama sign...
Good on you Mondo!
Raine on 10/07/2008 20:07:10
Quote by Mondobubba:
It is on neighbor bitches! A second McCain/Palin sign is up. No Obama signs to be had at the County Dems, but the Jay McGovern sign will tide me over until next Wednesdee.
Good on you Mondo!
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 20:09:01
Raine on 10/07/2008 20:09:01
The market closed down over 500 points tonite... McCain will have NO CHOICE but to talk about the economy.
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 20:20:38
TriSec on 10/07/2008 20:20:38
My compromise was to plaster the back of the car with Obama swag. (and I drive a blue car, too!)
I'm parked at the curb in front of my place; everyone walking on the sidewalk can see it, so it's roughly the same as a lawn sign.
Plus, I make sure to park it in a visible place in the Bush Cousin's company parking lot.
I'm parked at the curb in front of my place; everyone walking on the sidewalk can see it, so it's roughly the same as a lawn sign.
Plus, I make sure to park it in a visible place in the Bush Cousin's company parking lot.
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 20:21:21
Tom, I'm not going to answer that question. Instead, I'd like to talk about how being a POW prepared me to be a grumpy old putz.
TriSec on 10/07/2008 20:21:21
Quote by Raine:
The market closed down over 500 points tonite... McCain will have NO CHOICE but to talk about the economy.
Tom, I'm not going to answer that question. Instead, I'd like to talk about how being a POW prepared me to be a grumpy old putz.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 20:23:02
Since I have little in the way of artistic ability, I will wait until next week for the Obama sign. Unless of course I want people to think that the special needs child did a sign.
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 20:23:02
Quote by Raine:We made our own Obama sign...Quote by Mondobubba:
It is on neighbor bitches! A second McCain/Palin sign is up. No Obama signs to be had at the County Dems, but the Jay McGovern sign will tide me over until next Wednesdee.
Good on you Mondo!
Since I have little in the way of artistic ability, I will wait until next week for the Obama sign. Unless of course I want people to think that the special needs child did a sign.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 20:31:22
Remember the Revolution starts in your own back yard!
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 20:31:22
Remember the Revolution starts in your own back yard!
Comment by TriSec on 10/07/2008 20:32:22
TriSec on 10/07/2008 20:32:22
Well, there's this guy in Watertown, MA...
Watertown artist creates Obama mural
WATERTOWN —
Mike Mandel, an Obama supporter, is telling his whole neighborhood.
No, he’s not going door to door extolling “hope” and “change you can believe in,” he’s letting the seven-and-a-half foot tall mosaic portrait of Obama on his porch do the talking for him.
Mandel, a nationally recognized mosaic artist, just happens to live in Watertown, and he just happens to be an ardent Obama supporter.
“What I can do is to use my creativity to make a strong statement visually. It gives me a lot of great satisfaction to know that I can do that,” he said.
For Mandel, the art is also directly related to the political process. With glowing golden hues painting Obama’s face, the candidate appears ennobled, and immortalized in stone. “The fact that people are driving by, they get to see my design, that is a celebration of Obama, it makes him look patriotic, an uplifting feeling of what he represents, to me that feels like I’ve done something to enhance the campaign.”
“As a citizen, if you can do something that is an expression of your commitment to your ideals, it makes you feel better as a person,” Mandel said. “It makes you feel like you’re making a contribution.”
Responses have been largely positive, he said. People living near him on Maplewood Street would come knock on his door to thank him for making the mural, he said. Drivers slow down and look, and so far no McCain supporters have voiced problems with it. Though Mandel does worry about vandalism, he said he hoped people who do not support Obama would be respectful of his art.
Watertown artist creates Obama mural
WATERTOWN —
Mike Mandel, an Obama supporter, is telling his whole neighborhood.
No, he’s not going door to door extolling “hope” and “change you can believe in,” he’s letting the seven-and-a-half foot tall mosaic portrait of Obama on his porch do the talking for him.
Mandel, a nationally recognized mosaic artist, just happens to live in Watertown, and he just happens to be an ardent Obama supporter.
“What I can do is to use my creativity to make a strong statement visually. It gives me a lot of great satisfaction to know that I can do that,” he said.
For Mandel, the art is also directly related to the political process. With glowing golden hues painting Obama’s face, the candidate appears ennobled, and immortalized in stone. “The fact that people are driving by, they get to see my design, that is a celebration of Obama, it makes him look patriotic, an uplifting feeling of what he represents, to me that feels like I’ve done something to enhance the campaign.”
“As a citizen, if you can do something that is an expression of your commitment to your ideals, it makes you feel better as a person,” Mandel said. “It makes you feel like you’re making a contribution.”
Responses have been largely positive, he said. People living near him on Maplewood Street would come knock on his door to thank him for making the mural, he said. Drivers slow down and look, and so far no McCain supporters have voiced problems with it. Though Mandel does worry about vandalism, he said he hoped people who do not support Obama would be respectful of his art.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 21:08:59
Raine on 10/07/2008 21:08:59
Just seen on hardball... :spit:
A photo of McCain: "Out of Touch and Reckless"
and a photo of Palin: "Out to Lunch and Brainless"
:rofl:
A photo of McCain: "Out of Touch and Reckless"
and a photo of Palin: "Out to Lunch and Brainless"
:rofl:
Comment by MMB on 10/07/2008 21:11:35
BobR, I think you hit the nail right on the head. I do love my Mom but I am sad to say I have heard alot of lifetime Democrats say that there is no way they will vote for a Black man. She has not said this but it really worries me that so many people if they feel this way why not be honest . Mom is 65 and set in her ways i told her if Obama wins and is a really great President i do not want to hear a word about it!!! My aunt was a huge Hilary supporter and she is voting for Grampy she felt like Hilary was supposed to be handed the nomination no matter what and how dare that man get in her way. At least my Rep. brother is honest enough to just say he's voting for Grampy. Life is very strange. Thanks for the web site Snopes i will check it out. Have a great night!!
MMB on 10/07/2008 21:11:35
Quote by BobR:Quote by MMB:
I am going to slit my throat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mom says i am not voting for Obama he has to much of a sneaky background besides nobody can change anything in Washinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess Grampy has a angelic background. My blood pressure is soaring i told her if you get one benefit from a Obama presidency turn it back in to the govt.
I don't want to speak ill of your mother, but I think some people are prejudiced and are looking for any excuse not to vote for him. If she thinks nobody can change anything, why is she voting at all? Why bother?
Perhaps you could print out how all of that "sneaky" stuff has been debunked at Snopes.com and hand it to her. If she's not interested in reading it, then it shows she's not interested in making an informed decision, she's only interested in finding an excuse to not vote for him.
Comment by BobR on 10/07/2008 22:22:09
BobR on 10/07/2008 22:22:09
Rachel on NovaM in place of Farius...
not a bad trade.
not a bad trade.
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 22:54:55
livingonli on 10/07/2008 22:54:55
Of course that means KPHX doesn't have any local shows.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/07/2008 22:58:53
IzzyBitz on 10/07/2008 22:58:53
Rachel is gonna be on The Tonight Show on Thursday. wOOt
She had to buy new pants because she only has one pair for the TV machine.
She had to buy new pants because she only has one pair for the TV machine.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 23:03:09
All those smart jackets and no pants to go with them? Wha?
Or right its TV she sits down.
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 23:03:09
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Rachel is gonna be on The Tonight Show on Thursday. wOOt
She had to buy new pants because she only has one pair for the TV machine.
All those smart jackets and no pants to go with them? Wha?
Or right its TV she sits down.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/07/2008 23:11:11
IzzyBitz on 10/07/2008 23:11:11
I guess the Betty Boop boxers would be a bit much for Jay.
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 23:12:45
:party:
In honour of John MCCAin, I am making JERK CHICKEN tonite.
Raine on 10/07/2008 23:12:45
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Rachel is gonna be on The Tonight Show on Thursday. wOOt
She had to buy new pants because she only has one pair for the TV machine.
:party:
In honour of John MCCAin, I am making JERK CHICKEN tonite.
Comment by livingonli on 10/07/2008 23:17:59
livingonli on 10/07/2008 23:17:59
When I saw Rachel with Lizz a few weeks back, I think she must have been glad to get out of the work clothes because she arrived in a t-shirt, jeans, and boots. Not to mention she had her glasses on.
If Rachel is the butch one, is Susan a "femme"?
If Rachel is the butch one, is Susan a "femme"?
Comment by clintster on 10/07/2008 23:27:18
clintster on 10/07/2008 23:27:18
Comment by Raine on 10/07/2008 23:43:13
Off to light a candle. I cannot believe it's been 10 years.
:(
Raine on 10/07/2008 23:43:13
Quote by clintster:
By the way, tonight is a grim ten year anniversary.
Rest in peace, Matthew.
:(
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 23:46:19
No such luck here. I do have an entire six pack of beer it should get me thru the debate.
Ohh bingo!
Mondobubba on 10/07/2008 23:46:19
Quote by Raine:Quote by IzzyBitz:
Rachel is gonna be on The Tonight Show on Thursday. wOOt
She had to buy new pants because she only has one pair for the TV machine.
:party:
In honour of John MCCAin, I am making JERK CHICKEN tonite.
No such luck here. I do have an entire six pack of beer it should get me thru the debate.
Ohh bingo!