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Ask A Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 10/21/2008 10:36:08
Good Morning. It's two weeks to go; everyone still working hard?
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the Warron Terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4186
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4047
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3725
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3328
Since Election (1/31/05): 2748
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 616
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 378
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 445
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 564, 314, 200, 000.00
Checking in with our friends at IAVA, they too have taken note of all the attention being showered on "Joe the plumber". But IAVA has different concerns. What about Jim and Jane the veterans?
Please go and check the source; I've noticed for the first time that the freepers seem to have made it to IAVA now...and some are questioning IAVA's neutrality and Paul Rieckhoff's motivations. More sickness from the right, I suppose....
I know I have posted this before, but as we enter the stretch run to the election, it's worth checking out the Top Ten actions for the next president. [I copied over only the points; please check IAVA for the detail.
Of course, IAVA just released it's congressional report card...given that 3 of the four candidates are sitting Senators, you can easily check and see who is more likely to watch out for our veterans and who is not.
Lastly this morning...we'll take a very brief look at Afghanistan. Unfortunately like the M$M, we here at "Ask a Vet" often overlook this conflict, too. I'm sorry to have to report that it's about to get even lonelier in those mountains. NATO is hinting it may pull out.
You know what's at stake here. There's 14 days to go; let's make the most of it.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the Warron Terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4186
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4047
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3725
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3328
Since Election (1/31/05): 2748
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 616
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 378
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 445
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 564, 314, 200, 000.00
Checking in with our friends at IAVA, they too have taken note of all the attention being showered on "Joe the plumber". But IAVA has different concerns. What about Jim and Jane the veterans?
First it was Main Street. Then it was Joe Six-Pack. And last night, Joe the Plumber took center stage. After three presidential debates between Senators McCain and Obama, our nation’s veterans can’t help but be left wondering: What about us?
Beyond the fact that there was no real talk (straight or otherwise) at all about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, foreign policy or military affairs, Iraq and Afghanistan veterans are facing unbelievable challenges when they come home. More than 300,000 new veterans are suffering from a serious psychological injury, and less than half are receiving the care they need. Tens of thousands of troops have suffered disabling physical injuries, new veterans are also facing high rates of unemployment, and almost two thousand brave men and women who served in Iraq or Afghanistan have already wound up homeless. And all the economic issues hitting the average American are hitting our military folks even harder. Millions are wrestling with the mortgage crisis, rising food costs, and the high price of gas. Now imagine dealing with all that while being deployed to a war zone for 12 months for the third time in five years. This is what our servicemembers are facing.
But not once during the presidential debates did we hear any substance from the candidates about how they plan to support our veterans.
We’ve been bombarded with talking point after talking point on the economy, healthcare, and energy. Joe the Plumber even had his name repeated more than a dozen times last night. But Jim and Jane the Veteran have been left behind.
Please go and check the source; I've noticed for the first time that the freepers seem to have made it to IAVA now...and some are questioning IAVA's neutrality and Paul Rieckhoff's motivations. More sickness from the right, I suppose....
I know I have posted this before, but as we enter the stretch run to the election, it's worth checking out the Top Ten actions for the next president. [I copied over only the points; please check IAVA for the detail.
1. Ensure Thorough, Professional, and Confidential Mental Health Screening
2. Advance-Fund VA Health Care
3. Overhaul the Military and Veterans' Disability System
4. Cut the Claims Backlog in Half
5. End the Passive VA System
6. Combat the Shortage of Mental Health Professionals
7. Create Tax Incentives for Patriotic Employers
8. Fight Homelessness among Veterans
9. Give Families Access to Mental Health Support
10. Repeal the Waiver of High-Deployment Pay
Of course, IAVA just released it's congressional report card...given that 3 of the four candidates are sitting Senators, you can easily check and see who is more likely to watch out for our veterans and who is not.
Lastly this morning...we'll take a very brief look at Afghanistan. Unfortunately like the M$M, we here at "Ask a Vet" often overlook this conflict, too. I'm sorry to have to report that it's about to get even lonelier in those mountains. NATO is hinting it may pull out.
LONDON, Oct 20 (Reuters) - NATO members are wavering in their political commitment to Afghanistan, one of the alliance's top commanders said on Monday, describing the nearly seven-year-old campaign against the Taliban as disjointed.
Pointing to more than 70 "caveats" that gave individual countries a veto over certain operations, and the fact that troop commitments remained unfulfilled, General John Craddock said he was fearful the operation was being short-changed.
"We are demonstrating a political will that is in my judgment sometimes wavering," Craddock, a U.S. general and NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe, said in a speech to policymakers and defence analysts in London.
"It's this wavering political will that impedes operational progress and brings into question the relevance of the alliance here in the 21st century," he said.
NATO troops serve in Afghanistan under a United Nations mandate. That mandate initially limited their operations to Kabul but in 2003 was expanded to give NATO a wider role to support the Afghan government throughout the country.
As insecurity has increased in Afghanistan, NATO troops have steadily been drawn into more deadly operations, a factor that has dissuaded some countries from deeper involvement.
Craddock told Britain's Sky News television more British troops would be needed in Afghanistan's Helmand province but the precise number had yet to be decided.
"That will be up to the commander on the ground but the situation in Helmand province I think is critical," he said. "That's the key area for the production of poppy, it is a key area for the insurgency."
Insecurity has led farmers to switch from producing food to opium, a crop that also funds the Taliban insurgency. Helmand produced about half the world's opium last year.
You know what's at stake here. There's 14 days to go; let's make the most of it.
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Comment by 
BobR on 10/21/2008 12:15:51
BobR on 10/21/2008 12:15:51
Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 12:25:22
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 12:25:22
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/21/2008 12:52:34
TriSec on 10/21/2008 12:52:34
I read this last night, in a book of collected speeches and documents on American history.
It's about slavery, but is it also not a metaphor for today's times, and the schism taking place right now?
Although the saying is 150 years old, it's perhaps as true today as when Abraham Lincoln first told us that A house divided against itself cannot stand.
It's about slavery, but is it also not a metaphor for today's times, and the schism taking place right now?
Although the saying is 150 years old, it's perhaps as true today as when Abraham Lincoln first told us that A house divided against itself cannot stand.
Comment by 
Raine on 10/21/2008 13:26:09
Raine on 10/21/2008 13:26:09
Good Morning. WAsn't the Bear the symbol of Russia, IE the USSR, IE Socialism/communism?
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 13:35:16
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 13:35:16
Hello
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 13:36:06
Raine on 10/21/2008 13:36:06
Yup, the BEar is on the logo of the United Russian Party:
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 13:38:29
TriSec on 10/21/2008 13:38:29
I was thinking the metaphor was more basic.
It was a black bear.
It was a black bear.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 13:39:38
Raine on 10/21/2008 13:39:38
Good morning Grump! :hug:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 13:41:02
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 13:41:02
Morning all! 
wtf at the bear cub thing..
And as if that wasn't enough, there's this nonsense too.
[rant]
Let's be perfectly honest about this. The people who are perpetrating these crimes - and yes that's exactly what they are; premediated criminal actions against life and property alike - are a small, extremely active minority of McCain's supporters. These people are not mentally ill. These people have no defense for their actions. These people are domestic terrorists. These people deserve to be arrested, arraigned, tried, and hopefully sentenced to some jail time.
However, they do not represent the whole. They might be acting in a manner they see as supportive to McCain's campaign for the presidency, but they are not doing it for him, they are not doing it for McCain's other more mannered supporters, and they're sure not doing it with McCain's blessing. In that spirit I'm sure if McCain were pressed on the question he would eventually squeak out an equivocative response repudiating these actions.
Riiiight.
Now let's be honest here the left is not without fault. We have had our share of domestic terrorists over time. And yes, the infamous Bill Ayers was one of them. However his crimes were forty years ago. He has already admitted his crime, and served his sentence for it. He has since reformed himself into a productive member of society. He has completed a college education and become an educator himself. He continues to be a political activist, but now he works within the system to change and implement policy, rather than insult and destroy it. This was the path that led him to the Annenburg Foundation and his colleage-level association with Barack Obama.
This isn't the only example on the left, and there are just as many examples on the right as well of criminals being reintroduced to society - just look at Gordon Libby, or Scooter Libby, or John Negroponte, or Oliver North, or Judith Miller who are all fine examples of the kind of people that are allowed to reenter society productively after commiting a crime. Sure they haven't exactly done their time like Ayers did, but let's not let that prevent them from getting another chance.
So who knows.. perhaps today's baby bear killers and window smashing graffiti artists are tomorrow's National Director of Intelligence and Fox News Analyst. We'll just have to wait and see.
[/rant]
wtf at the bear cub thing.. And as if that wasn't enough, there's this nonsense too.
[rant]
Let's be perfectly honest about this. The people who are perpetrating these crimes - and yes that's exactly what they are; premediated criminal actions against life and property alike - are a small, extremely active minority of McCain's supporters. These people are not mentally ill. These people have no defense for their actions. These people are domestic terrorists. These people deserve to be arrested, arraigned, tried, and hopefully sentenced to some jail time.
However, they do not represent the whole. They might be acting in a manner they see as supportive to McCain's campaign for the presidency, but they are not doing it for him, they are not doing it for McCain's other more mannered supporters, and they're sure not doing it with McCain's blessing. In that spirit I'm sure if McCain were pressed on the question he would eventually squeak out an equivocative response repudiating these actions.
Riiiight.
Now let's be honest here the left is not without fault. We have had our share of domestic terrorists over time. And yes, the infamous Bill Ayers was one of them. However his crimes were forty years ago. He has already admitted his crime, and served his sentence for it. He has since reformed himself into a productive member of society. He has completed a college education and become an educator himself. He continues to be a political activist, but now he works within the system to change and implement policy, rather than insult and destroy it. This was the path that led him to the Annenburg Foundation and his colleage-level association with Barack Obama.
This isn't the only example on the left, and there are just as many examples on the right as well of criminals being reintroduced to society - just look at Gordon Libby, or Scooter Libby, or John Negroponte, or Oliver North, or Judith Miller who are all fine examples of the kind of people that are allowed to reenter society productively after commiting a crime. Sure they haven't exactly done their time like Ayers did, but let's not let that prevent them from getting another chance.
So who knows.. perhaps today's baby bear killers and window smashing graffiti artists are tomorrow's National Director of Intelligence and Fox News Analyst. We'll just have to wait and see.
[/rant]
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 13:42:20
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 13:42:20
Thank you Chris - I did the same thing
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 13:44:27
Raine on 10/21/2008 13:44:27
*sigh* 2 more weeks.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 13:53:16
Raine on 10/21/2008 13:53:16
Nice rant Scoop.
What the hell? These people need to spend a little time in Jail for these acts. Seriously.
I can only imagine what Halloween is going to be like.
What the hell? These people need to spend a little time in Jail for these acts. Seriously.
I can only imagine what Halloween is going to be like.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 13:57:46
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 13:57:46
Sorry to say Scoop nothing will be done about this kind of thing.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 13:58:25
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 13:58:25
was that w Time Machine pull?
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:02:44
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:02:44
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:12:14
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:12:14
For those that missed KO last night... KO had some interesting stuff on 'best Persons in the World"
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 14:13:22
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 14:13:22
Hey.. I wrote that entire thing without a single curse word.
Fuck yea!
Fuck yea!
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 14:17:54
TriSec on 10/21/2008 14:17:54
Comment by 
Random on 10/21/2008 14:19:25
That's some Freaky Twilight Zone Shit right there man.
Random on 10/21/2008 14:19:25
Quote by Raine:
For those that missed KO last night... KO had some interesting stuff on 'best Persons in the World"
That's some Freaky Twilight Zone Shit right there man.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:20:00
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:20:00
Kerry makes a funny... unfortunately....
I think it's funny, and you may think it's funny, but John Kerry Jokes and the GOP are really really bad ideas.
I guarantee, the GOP will make this an issue. Altho I do wonder if John McCain will have the gumption to call for a repudiation...
I think it's funny, and you may think it's funny, but John Kerry Jokes and the GOP are really really bad ideas.
"These are the exciting last two week moments of the presidential campaign," the Boston Democrat said. "So it's a very special time. I can't wait for it to be over. I am so tired of the press' silly questions that they ask along the way. And cable television which reduces everything to stupidity - the lowest common denominator of conflict."
Kerry tried to relay to the audience what it is like to face the press corps' inquiries.
"I don't know if any of you know what it's like. I do, obviously," he said. "I've been asked all of those brilliant questions that were repeated this year."
"Barack got asked the famous boxers or briefs question," Kerry went on. "I was tempted to say commando."
The senator said Obama successfully parried that question but that John McCain, the GOP nominee, had some problems.
"Then they asked McCain and McCain said, ‘Depends,'" Kerry said to lots of laughter from the crowd.
I guarantee, the GOP will make this an issue. Altho I do wonder if John McCain will have the gumption to call for a repudiation...
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 14:20:24
You're pissed at New Hampshire, when Arizona goes Obama by 14 points? man, it's like raggin on that one B on the reportcard full of As.
Random on 10/21/2008 14:20:24
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Woot.
I'm shopping at 7-11 more, lol
Frickin' Cow Hampshire. Dickweeds.
You're pissed at New Hampshire, when Arizona goes Obama by 14 points? man, it's like raggin on that one B on the reportcard full of As.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:20:28
Hhhheeellllloooooo Virginia!
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:20:28
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:
Woot.
I'm shopping at 7-11 more, lol
Frickin' Cow Hampshire. Dickweeds.
Hhhheeellllloooooo Virginia!
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:22:09
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:22:09
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 14:22:17
Random on 10/21/2008 14:22:17
Random's daily ego rubbing!
Any one who cares, i'll probably stop plugging my blog by the end of the week unless I do a rant or something.
Any one who cares, i'll probably stop plugging my blog by the end of the week unless I do a rant or something.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:23:24
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:23:24
AZ is up that much for Obama? wooOOoot
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 14:24:11
Random on 10/21/2008 14:24:11
I say we let 7-11 decide the election. lol
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:28:59
livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:28:59
Good morning everyone. :yawn:
So if Obama takes even most of the red states at 7-11. Where do the McCain supporters in those states get their coffee? Or do they consider it too fancy pants?
So if Obama takes even most of the red states at 7-11. Where do the McCain supporters in those states get their coffee? Or do they consider it too fancy pants?
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:29:49
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:29:49
:foil: About that Anchorwoman that was attacked in Arkansas.
Anne Pressly's personality made her a hit with television viewers. Now, police want to know whether her celebrity made her a target.
The popular KATV anchorwoman, who had a small part in the Bush biopic "W," was in critical but stable condition Tuesday after a severe beating in her home. Investigators aren't sure whether she was the random victim of a home invasion or a target because of her high-profile job.
"(It) is possible that it is something other than robbery," police spokeswoman Cassandra Davis said. "Our detectives are talking with co-workers because she was a public figure, because she was on the news, in the media."
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:36:28
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:36:28
Lorton is closed Jim
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:39:00
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:39:00
Caribu Barbie or Terrorist - which is more offensive?
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:39:09
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:39:09
HAs the left shot any baby bear cubs? HAs the left dropped ROCKS into cars? has the left slashed some 30 cars tires at an Obama Rally? 
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:39:33
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:39:33
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:40:21
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:40:21
Hang up on this idiot.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:40:25
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:40:25
First of all it's the DemocratIC party and single member of the part is a Democrat.
Second - um - they seem rather happy in Europe, don't they?
Second - um - they seem rather happy in Europe, don't they?
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:40:56
IOIFYR
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:40:56
Quote by Raine:
HAs the left shot any baby bear cubs? HAs the left dropped ROCKS into cars? has the left slashed some 30 cars tires at an Obama Rally?
IOIFYR
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 14:41:07
BobR on 10/21/2008 14:41:07
This caller sounds like my brother
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:41:51
That NEVER fails to make me smile. Perfect timing Grump!
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:41:51
Quote by Grumpymann:
That NEVER fails to make me smile. Perfect timing Grump!
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:42:04
From what I have heard, the quality of life, the lifespan and even the potential for upward mobility are now higher in most European countries than they are in the United States.
livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:42:04
Quote by wickedpam:
First of all it's the DemocratIC party and single member of the part is a Democrat.
Second - um - they seem rather happy in Europe, don't they?
From what I have heard, the quality of life, the lifespan and even the potential for upward mobility are now higher in most European countries than they are in the United States.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 14:42:25
BobR on 10/21/2008 14:42:25
socialized medicine already works.
It's called "Medicare"
It's called "Medicare"
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:42:52
I'm very sorry bob.
And I offer my services as a brother if you would like.
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:42:52
Quote by BobR:
This caller sounds like my brother
I'm very sorry bob.
And I offer my services as a brother if you would like.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:43:13
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:43:13
That is not socialistic health care in Mass
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 14:44:39
BobR on 10/21/2008 14:44:39
Bernie Sanders: left
Teddy Kennedy: left
Barack Obama: not so left...
Teddy Kennedy: left
Barack Obama: not so left...
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:45:00
OH! Bobber, take him up on this! I want Grump as a brother in Law.
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:45:00
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by BobR:
This caller sounds like my brother
I'm very sorry bob.
And I offer my services as a brother if you would like.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:45:07
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:45:07
SINGLE PAYER IS NOT THE SAME AS SOCIALIST!
You uninformed piece of shit
You uninformed piece of shit
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:45:35
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:45:35
Saw this Saturday morning, a week after their very large Obama sign was stolen
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:46:37
livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:46:37
That caller was about as smart as a tree stump.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 14:47:20
My brother is a Libertarian that takes their views to the most extreme and unworkable extremes.
No taxes
EVERYTHING fee-based (including police, fire depts, and roads)
No government intrusion in personal lives or business
We try to argue how it can't work like that and that the Constitution DOES allow for taxation, but he'd prefer no government at all.
BobR on 10/21/2008 14:47:20
Quote by Grumpymann:
I'm very sorry bob.
And I offer my services as a brother if you would like.
My brother is a Libertarian that takes their views to the most extreme and unworkable extremes.
No taxes
EVERYTHING fee-based (including police, fire depts, and roads)
No government intrusion in personal lives or business
We try to argue how it can't work like that and that the Constitution DOES allow for taxation, but he'd prefer no government at all.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:51:38
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:51:38
Sorry I know that's too big - but I can't get a happy medium where you can read the sign
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:53:15
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:53:15
who ever fixed that thank you :hug:
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 14:53:18
AWESOME!!!
I am seeing more and more of these kind of signs going up around the innertubes!
Raine on 10/21/2008 14:53:18
Quote by wickedpam:
Saw this Saturday morning, a week after their very large Obama sign was stolen
AWESOME!!!
I am seeing more and more of these kind of signs going up around the innertubes!
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:53:45
I know the type.
but the offer is still open.
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:53:45
Quote by BobR:Quote by Grumpymann:
I'm very sorry bob.
And I offer my services as a brother if you would like.
My brother is a Libertarian that takes their views to the most extreme and unworkable extremes.
No taxes
EVERYTHING fee-based (including police, fire depts, and roads)
No government intrusion in personal lives or business
We try to argue how it can't work like that and that the Constitution DOES allow for taxation, but he'd prefer no government at all.
I know the type.
but the offer is still open.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:54:18
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:54:18
is it a communist squirrel? Does he wear a red neck kerchief?
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:54:44
livingonli on 10/21/2008 14:54:44
Since he's calling from Communist Virginia does that mean he's calling on the red phone?
:ducks incoming rotten tomatoes:
:ducks incoming rotten tomatoes:
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:55:40
this town usually votes red so I'm interested in how this vote is going to turn out
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:55:40
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Saw this Saturday morning, a week after their very large Obama sign was stolen
AWESOME!!!
I am seeing more and more of these kind of signs going up around the innertubes!
this town usually votes red so I'm interested in how this vote is going to turn out
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:56:09
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 14:56:09
Quote by livingonli:
Since he's calling from Communist Virginia does that mean he's calling on the red phone?
:ducks incoming rotten tomatoes:
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:56:10
OMG!
That is just another of my personal sticking points.
Weddings.
I hate those things.
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 14:56:10
Quote by Raine:
Worst. Best. Man. Ever.
Clickety click.
OMG!
That is just another of my personal sticking points.
Weddings.
I hate those things.
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 14:59:20
TriSec on 10/21/2008 14:59:20
Curious that this Commonwealth doesn't have early voting. But then again, we're so blue that we need oxygen.
In any case, I've always been a morning voter, I expect to be standing outside the polling place when they open the doors, I want to be the first in Waltham to cast a ballot this year.
In any case, I've always been a morning voter, I expect to be standing outside the polling place when they open the doors, I want to be the first in Waltham to cast a ballot this year.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:00:35
See? another reason you should be my Brother in Law!
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:00:35
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Raine:
Worst. Best. Man. Ever.
Clickety click.
OMG!
That is just another of my personal sticking points.
Weddings.
I hate those things.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:01:42
43 states have early voting... I wonder how many that don't are Blue states. NY if I am correct is another one of them.
curious.
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:01:42
Quote by TriSec:
Curious that this Commonwealth doesn't have early voting. But then again, we're so blue that we need oxygen.
In any case, I've always been a morning voter, I expect to be standing outside the polling place when they open the doors, I want to be the first in Waltham to cast a ballot this year.
curious.
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 15:02:16
Eep! Another one of those...
I'm libertarian on social and international issues (mostly) but tend to favor a more realistic approach on the economy. I like safety nets and regulation and stuff.
There used to be fee-based fire services in the colonial era, but after one too many
entire towns burned to the ground, they decided to change that.
TriSec on 10/21/2008 15:02:16
Quote by BobR:Quote by Grumpymann:
I'm very sorry bob.
And I offer my services as a brother if you would like.
My brother is a Libertarian that takes their views to the most extreme and unworkable extremes.
No taxes
EVERYTHING fee-based (including police, fire depts, and roads)
No government intrusion in personal lives or business
We try to argue how it can't work like that and that the Constitution DOES allow for taxation, but he'd prefer no government at all.
Eep! Another one of those...
I'm libertarian on social and international issues (mostly) but tend to favor a more realistic approach on the economy. I like safety nets and regulation and stuff.
There used to be fee-based fire services in the colonial era, but after one too many
entire towns burned to the ground, they decided to change that.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:07:48
That's all I can say as I wipe tears from my eye.
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:07:48
Quote by Raine:See? another reason you should be my Brother in Law!Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Raine:
Worst. Best. Man. Ever.
Clickety click.
OMG!
That is just another of my personal sticking points.
Weddings.
I hate those things.
That's all I can say as I wipe tears from my eye.
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:08:09
Yep. No early voting here. Since with my schedule I don't get up early I will probably vote in the early afternoon. I did request that day off so I can sit home and nervously watch the returns.
livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:08:09
Quote by Raine:43 states have early voting... I wonder how many that don't are Blue states. NY if I am correct is another one of them.Quote by TriSec:
Curious that this Commonwealth doesn't have early voting. But then again, we're so blue that we need oxygen.
In any case, I've always been a morning voter, I expect to be standing outside the polling place when they open the doors, I want to be the first in Waltham to cast a ballot this year.
curious.
Yep. No early voting here. Since with my schedule I don't get up early I will probably vote in the early afternoon. I did request that day off so I can sit home and nervously watch the returns.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:08:19
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:08:19
Just had a guy on a gaming blog say that big government is defined as:
And that includes...
Yeah.. he wants to do away with laws.
I think it's easier to just say everything that isn't explicitly stated in the constitution.
And that includes...
Social security. Incoming carbon emissions stuff. Welfare programs.
Yeah.. he wants to do away with laws.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:10:43
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:10:43
Grump, we got married in the Fulton Country Courthouse, but we celebrated at the MLK center...
A quickie Slideshow...
A quickie Slideshow...
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:11:44
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:11:44
Slightly edited version of my rant this morning..
Someone even corrected me - I didn't know Ayers' prosecution was botched due to the famous COINTELPRO program..
I'll post it over at the forums here in a moment.
Someone even corrected me - I didn't know Ayers' prosecution was botched due to the famous COINTELPRO program..
I'll post it over at the forums here in a moment.
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:11:45
livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:11:45
I really wonder if these right-wing Libertarians who want to turn this country back to a Social Darwinist survival of the fittest country and get rid of even the meager public space we have would really like living under their so-called "paradise"
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 15:15:35
That's it exactly. Since the Constitution allows for enacting laws, any law that doesn't specifically go against the Constitution IS "Constitutional"...
BobR on 10/21/2008 15:15:35
Quote by Scoopster:
Just had a guy on a gaming blog say that big government is defined as:
Yeah.. he wants to do away with laws.
That's it exactly. Since the Constitution allows for enacting laws, any law that doesn't specifically go against the Constitution IS "Constitutional"...
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:16:23
No password.
When Ms. Grump and I went to a JP and then ran to McDonnalds
(Not really)
I spent a few years when I was IN a wedding every few months. Of them all Only 1 cupple is sill together. (They are the ones that admitted that they didn't want to have a "Biggie" in the first place.)
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:16:23
Quote by Raine:
Grump, we got married in the Fulton Country Courthouse, but we celebrated at the MLK center...
A quickie Slideshow...
No password.
When Ms. Grump and I went to a JP and then ran to McDonnalds
(Not really)
I spent a few years when I was IN a wedding every few months. Of them all Only 1 cupple is sill together. (They are the ones that admitted that they didn't want to have a "Biggie" in the first place.)
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 15:18:36
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 15:18:36
I don't have an aunt Bitsy.
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:21:27
livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:21:27
So, now Rush has to shout his talking points. He must be back on the Oxycotin.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 15:22:52
I find it really funny that the hand of "Obama" is obviously white.
Random on 10/21/2008 15:22:52
Quote by Grumpymann:
I find it really funny that the hand of "Obama" is obviously white.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:22:59
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:22:59
Meg Whitman --- McCain's Treasury Sec Pick donated TOO much Money to MCCain...
:thud:
Arguably the biggest whales of all are the several dozen who contributed $70,000 or more to Mr. McCain. They included Marvin Gilliam, an executive at Cumberland Resources, a Virginia coal-mining company where several top officials made sizable contributions to Mr. McCain, as well as Mr. Gilliam’s wife, Marcia; Joe Ricketts, founder of the securities firm TD Ameritrade; and Meg Whitman, former chief executive of eBay and a prominent McCain surrogate, who contributed a total of $92,400, according to F.E.C. records, although some will apparently need to be refunded because of federal contribution limits.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:26:53
You can have mine.
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:26:53
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't have an aunt Bitsy.
You can have mine.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 15:29:10
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 15:29:10
Thats news to Joe Scarbourgh
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 15:29:49
no, no that's okay - I have my own crazy aunts - they just aren't crafty.
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 15:29:49
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by wickedpam:
I don't have an aunt Bitsy.
You can have mine.
no, no that's okay - I have my own crazy aunts - they just aren't crafty.
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:30:12
livingonli on 10/21/2008 15:30:12
PA doesn't have early voting either.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 15:38:12
You know a gaming blog isn't really a gaming blog when something that has nothing to do with gaming is discussed.
Random on 10/21/2008 15:38:12
Quote by Scoopster:
Just had a guy on a gaming blog say that big government is defined as:I think it's easier to just say everything that isn't explicitly stated in the constitution.
And that includes...Social security. Incoming carbon emissions stuff. Welfare programs.
Yeah.. he wants to do away with laws.
You know a gaming blog isn't really a gaming blog when something that has nothing to do with gaming is discussed.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:43:15
:lol: There's an entire section dedicated to non-game topics from politics to how-do-i-confront-my-cheating-girlfriend.. there's also a entire part of that section devoted to nothing but off-the-wall 4chan-esqe threads.
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:43:15
Quote by Random:
You know a gaming blog isn't really a gaming blog when something that has nothing to do with gaming is discussed.
:lol: There's an entire section dedicated to non-game topics from politics to how-do-i-confront-my-cheating-girlfriend.. there's also a entire part of that section devoted to nothing but off-the-wall 4chan-esqe threads.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:43:39
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:43:39
Wait.. gamers have girlfriends?
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:45:49
Yes I'm a Gamer.
But I can't have a GF.....
Wife won't let me.
(And I ask her all the timeif I can.)
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:45:49
Quote by Scoopster:
Wait.. gamers have girlfriends?
Yes I'm a Gamer.
But I can't have a GF.....
Wife won't let me.
(And I ask her all the timeif I can.)
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:47:15
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:47:15
OOOh Grumpy! Have you had the chance to try out Warhammer Online yet?
Fantastic game.... albeit VERY buggy since it's still new.
Fantastic game.... albeit VERY buggy since it's still new.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 15:47:27
Now i know you're lying. Gamers don't have girlfriends.
Random on 10/21/2008 15:47:27
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
You know a gaming blog isn't really a gaming blog when something that has nothing to do with gaming is discussed.
:lol: There's an entire section dedicated to non-game topics from politics to how-do-i-confront-my-cheating-girlfriend.. there's also a entire part of that section devoted to nothing but off-the-wall 4chan-esqe threads.
Now i know you're lying. Gamers don't have girlfriends.
Comment by Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:51:53
Not too much into Video games.
(Got an XBox 360 to plat Mass Effect)
I never play on line.
I though you were talking about RPG as in D&D games.
Basement, dice, paper 7 pencil kind of thing.
Still face to face.
Grumpymann on 10/21/2008 15:51:53
Quote by Scoopster:
OOOh Grumpy! Have you had the chance to try out Warhammer Online yet?
Fantastic game.... albeit VERY buggy since it's still new.
Not too much into Video games.
(Got an XBox 360 to plat Mass Effect)
I never play on line.
I though you were talking about RPG as in D&D games.
Basement, dice, paper 7 pencil kind of thing.
Still face to face.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 15:54:09
Mass Effect is a great game. PLAY IT!
Random on 10/21/2008 15:54:09
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Scoopster:
OOOh Grumpy! Have you had the chance to try out Warhammer Online yet?
Fantastic game.... albeit VERY buggy since it's still new.
Not too much into Video games.
(Got an XBox 360 to plat Mass Effect)
Mass Effect is a great game. PLAY IT!
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:55:05
:spit:
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:55:05
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
You know a gaming blog isn't really a gaming blog when something that has nothing to do with gaming is discussed.
:lol: There's an entire section dedicated to non-game topics from politics to how-do-i-confront-my-cheating-girlfriend.. there's also a entire part of that section devoted to nothing but off-the-wall 4chan-esqe threads.
Now i know you're lying. Gamers don't have girlfriends.
:spit:
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 15:55:10
TriSec on 10/21/2008 15:55:10
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 15:56:18
Barack is half white. Maybe his other hand is black.
kinda like the cookies...
BobR on 10/21/2008 15:56:18
Quote by Random:
I find it really funny that the hand of "Obama" is obviously white.
Barack is half white. Maybe his other hand is black.
kinda like the cookies...
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:56:51
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:56:51
I want Pie.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 15:57:25
Random on 10/21/2008 15:57:25
WTF is a dairy man?
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:57:31
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 15:57:31
I've been looking to check that one out.. I'm still working my way through the Orange Box games (just built the new PC about 5 months ago) but that's slow since I now play two MMOs.
I also hear great things about Crysis.. but I'm pretty sure my machine doesn't have the firepower to handle it.
I also hear great things about Crysis.. but I'm pretty sure my machine doesn't have the firepower to handle it.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:58:10
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:58:10
Who the HELL is Ed the DAiry man? WTF???
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 15:58:16
It's a painful truth random has to deal with.
Random on 10/21/2008 15:58:16
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:
You know a gaming blog isn't really a gaming blog when something that has nothing to do with gaming is discussed.
:lol: There's an entire section dedicated to non-game topics from politics to how-do-i-confront-my-cheating-girlfriend.. there's also a entire part of that section devoted to nothing but off-the-wall 4chan-esqe threads.
Now i know you're lying. Gamers don't have girlfriends.
:spit:
It's a painful truth random has to deal with.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 15:59:48
Raine on 10/21/2008 15:59:48
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:00:32
Reason # 5,879 why you don't have your wedding poolside. :rofl:
Morning all. Doing the Lord's work is exhausting! I'd really like to go to the gym today and sit in whirlpool with nothing but my head exposed but they are closed today!
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:00:32
Quote by Raine:
Worst. Best. Man. Ever.
Clickety click.
Reason # 5,879 why you don't have your wedding poolside. :rofl:
Morning all. Doing the Lord's work is exhausting! I'd really like to go to the gym today and sit in whirlpool with nothing but my head exposed but they are closed today!
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 16:00:50
I only got through Portal. Which is a great Game.
Random on 10/21/2008 16:00:50
Quote by Scoopster:
I've been looking to check that one out.. I'm still working my way through the Orange Box games (just built the new PC about 5 months ago) but that's slow since I now play two MMOs.
I also hear great things about Crysis.. but I'm pretty sure my machine doesn't have the firepower to handle it.
I only got through Portal. Which is a great Game.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 16:02:17
Raine on 10/21/2008 16:02:17
Ed the Dairy Man needs to understand that Sarah Palin is just milking him for votes...
:rolleyes: Americans deserve better than this silliness.
:rolleyes: Americans deserve better than this silliness.
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 16:02:33
TriSec on 10/21/2008 16:02:33
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I find it really funny that the hand of "Obama" is obviously white.
Barack is half white. Maybe his other hand is black.
kinda like the cookies...
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:03:11
Some damn fine cherry pie, just like Special Agent Dale Cooper likes? : speaks backwards, does dance around the Red Room, a giant telling me it is happening again:
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:03:11
Quote by Raine:
I want Pie.
Some damn fine cherry pie, just like Special Agent Dale Cooper likes? : speaks backwards, does dance around the Red Room, a giant telling me it is happening again:
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 16:05:22
And with the Twin Peaks reference, It's my cue to slowly back out the door.
Random on 10/21/2008 16:05:22
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I want Pie.
Some damn fine cherry pie, just like Special Agent Dale Cooper likes? : speaks backwards, does dance around the Red Room, a giant telling me it is happening again:
And with the Twin Peaks reference, It's my cue to slowly back out the door.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 16:15:35
:foil: is THAT what Obama is secretly messaging???
Every day now, I keep hoping Obama mentions Pie on the trail.
Raine on 10/21/2008 16:15:35
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I want Pie.
Some damn fine cherry pie, just like Special Agent Dale Cooper likes? : speaks backwards, does dance around the Red Room, a giant telling me it is happening again:
And with the Twin Peaks reference, It's my cue to slowly back out the door.
:foil: is THAT what Obama is secretly messaging???
Every day now, I keep hoping Obama mentions Pie on the trail.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:17:42
Tri, back me up on this one okay? It works on what level? That it provides care? Or that the claims are paid promptly and in full? If you go by the it provides care yeah it works, but Medicare Part D sucks ass; seniors are paying the highest possible price for meds. I am glad my folks had the good sense and the cash to get supplemental insurance that covers meds and the whole host of things that are not fully covered by it. Medicare also waste time on money on exhausting all options before going to the most obvious treatment. Case in point, my mother had degenerative arthritis in one of her knees. Sounds like a knee replacement, right? Not so fast bucky! First there was round of painful cortisone shots with limited effect. Did they do surgery after that? No. Another round of injections this time with shark cartilage. Again, limited or no effect. So after months of this crap, Mom finally gets the appointment with the orthopedic surgeon and the efficacious treatment she needed.
On the other hand, when she was diagnosed with breast cancer they didn't screw around. I think everything with word cancer is pretty much green lit.
Rant's over.
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:17:42
Quote by BobR:
socialized medicine already works.
It's called "Medicare"
Tri, back me up on this one okay? It works on what level? That it provides care? Or that the claims are paid promptly and in full? If you go by the it provides care yeah it works, but Medicare Part D sucks ass; seniors are paying the highest possible price for meds. I am glad my folks had the good sense and the cash to get supplemental insurance that covers meds and the whole host of things that are not fully covered by it. Medicare also waste time on money on exhausting all options before going to the most obvious treatment. Case in point, my mother had degenerative arthritis in one of her knees. Sounds like a knee replacement, right? Not so fast bucky! First there was round of painful cortisone shots with limited effect. Did they do surgery after that? No. Another round of injections this time with shark cartilage. Again, limited or no effect. So after months of this crap, Mom finally gets the appointment with the orthopedic surgeon and the efficacious treatment she needed.
On the other hand, when she was diagnosed with breast cancer they didn't screw around. I think everything with word cancer is pretty much green lit.
Rant's over.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:20:50
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:20:50
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:22:35
Did I frighten you young Random? Did you have a bad experience watching Twin Peaks when you were a wee little Random? Its okay I won't let the scary man in the suit hurt you.
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:22:35
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I want Pie.
Some damn fine cherry pie, just like Special Agent Dale Cooper likes? : speaks backwards, does dance around the Red Room, a giant telling me it is happening again:
And with the Twin Peaks reference, It's my cue to slowly back out the door.
Did I frighten you young Random? Did you have a bad experience watching Twin Peaks when you were a wee little Random? Its okay I won't let the scary man in the suit hurt you.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 16:23:39
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 16:23:39
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:28:08
No Sevs in Atlanta? Wow just like Jacksonville. It is a hotbed of locally owned, crappy convenience stores. Ever since the might Little Champ empire imploded it has been chaos, dogs and cats living together.
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:28:08
Quote by Raine::kickcan: no 7-11 here.Quote by Random:
Woot.
I'm shopping at 7-11 more, lol
No Sevs in Atlanta? Wow just like Jacksonville. It is a hotbed of locally owned, crappy convenience stores. Ever since the might Little Champ empire imploded it has been chaos, dogs and cats living together.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 16:35:57
Just saying - the whole insurance thing is getting way over-complicated. The simple solution is:
1) Everyone is covered by Medicare. Period.
2) If you'd rather buy private insurance (or use employer-provided insurance), you can opt-out, and get a tax credit.
3) Medicare gets beefed up to work better for patients.
Seems like a simple cost-effective solution to me.
BobR on 10/21/2008 16:35:57
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, back me up on this one okay? It works on what level? That it provides care? Or that the claims are paid promptly and in full? If you go by the it provides care yeah it works, but Medicare Part D sucks ass; seniors are paying the highest possible price for meds. I am glad my folks had the good sense and the cash to get supplemental insurance that covers meds and the whole host of things that are not fully covered by it. Medicare also waste time on money on exhausting all options before going to the most obvious treatment. Case in point, my mother had degenerative arthritis in one of her knees. Sounds like a knee replacement, right? Not so fast bucky! First there was round of painful cortisone shots with limited effect. Did they do surgery after that? No. Another round of injections this time with shark cartilage. Again, limited or no effect. So after months of this crap, Mom finally gets the appointment with the orthopedic surgeon and the efficacious treatment she needed.
On the other hand, when she was diagnosed with breast cancer they didn't screw around. I think everything with word cancer is pretty much green lit.
Rant's over.
Just saying - the whole insurance thing is getting way over-complicated. The simple solution is:
1) Everyone is covered by Medicare. Period.
2) If you'd rather buy private insurance (or use employer-provided insurance), you can opt-out, and get a tax credit.
3) Medicare gets beefed up to work better for patients.
Seems like a simple cost-effective solution to me.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 16:37:23
I seem to remember some hullaballo with Georgia and 7/11s back in the early-to-mid 80's, but I can't recall the details.
BobR on 10/21/2008 16:37:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
No Sevs in Atlanta? Wow just like Jacksonville. It is a hotbed of locally owned, crappy convenience stores. Ever since the might Little Champ empire imploded it has been chaos, dogs and cats living together.
I seem to remember some hullaballo with Georgia and 7/11s back in the early-to-mid 80's, but I can't recall the details.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 16:41:05
I HAVE to admit, I LOVE when Barack talks about Pie. I do.
Raine on 10/21/2008 16:41:05
Quote by Raine:
I want Pie.
I HAVE to admit, I LOVE when Barack talks about Pie. I do.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 16:43:39
I was waiting for this. AS soon as I heard about him leaving for hawaii, I knew they would try this shit.
Joe Biden lost his mom in Law, adn Barack leaves to be with his 'Toot', and they just can't give it a rest.
Raine on 10/21/2008 16:43:39
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I was waiting for this. AS soon as I heard about him leaving for hawaii, I knew they would try this shit.
Joe Biden lost his mom in Law, adn Barack leaves to be with his 'Toot', and they just can't give it a rest.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 16:46:00
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
Random on 10/21/2008 16:46:00
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 16:49:13
I saw one of these Pie vids on Fox news where they had a little pie picture show up everytime he said pie.
Random on 10/21/2008 16:49:13
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
I want Pie.
I HAVE to admit, I LOVE when Barack talks about Pie. I do.
I saw one of these Pie vids on Fox news where they had a little pie picture show up everytime he said pie.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 16:50:07
Note to self, I'm becoming increasingly confused if I'm talking about myself or another person
Random on 10/21/2008 16:50:07
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
Note to self, I'm becoming increasingly confused if I'm talking about myself or another person
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 16:54:12
livingonli on 10/21/2008 16:54:12
I want a black and white cookie.
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 16:58:48
TriSec on 10/21/2008 16:58:48
Medicare is always the payor of last resort; if there is even a hint of another insurance, they'll drag their feet and delay processing a claim.
As for coverage, it's really screwy. Some things they'll cover 100%, while other things they won't touch with a 29-and-a-half foot pole. The things they do cover, Medicare usually has the worst reimbursement rates, too.
However, they are the industry leader in electronic claims processing and were the first payor to go NPI only this year, so technologically they are leading the pack, and it does help keep costs down.
As for this Commonwealth, "Romney Care" sucks ass. What they've done is eliminated the free-care pool. In this state, no provider can legally turn away anyone seeking care, whether or not they have insurance. Pre-Romney, there was a pool of money that was used to reimburse hospitals for this care. After Romney, everyone is now *required* to have insurance (or have a tax penalty.) Part of the law eliminated the free-care pool, assuming everyone would have insurance.
Problem is, there's still a significant number of folks that didn't buy in to the system, so they still go to the hospitals and get their free-care, but now there's no reimbursement pool. Caritas Healthcare (the former Catholic medical system in this state) has particularly been hard-hit by this. St. Elizabeth's hospital is on the verge of bankruptcy.
And of course, all the insurers in the state came up with "affordable" plans for the Romney Care law, but all of them have limited coverage, pre-existing conditions, and up to $10,000 in coinsurance and copays before they kick in.
Not to mention that less than a year after this was enacted, all the commercial insurers came back to the state and complained they were losing money and asked for a rate increase.
As for coverage, it's really screwy. Some things they'll cover 100%, while other things they won't touch with a 29-and-a-half foot pole. The things they do cover, Medicare usually has the worst reimbursement rates, too.
However, they are the industry leader in electronic claims processing and were the first payor to go NPI only this year, so technologically they are leading the pack, and it does help keep costs down.
As for this Commonwealth, "Romney Care" sucks ass. What they've done is eliminated the free-care pool. In this state, no provider can legally turn away anyone seeking care, whether or not they have insurance. Pre-Romney, there was a pool of money that was used to reimburse hospitals for this care. After Romney, everyone is now *required* to have insurance (or have a tax penalty.) Part of the law eliminated the free-care pool, assuming everyone would have insurance.
Problem is, there's still a significant number of folks that didn't buy in to the system, so they still go to the hospitals and get their free-care, but now there's no reimbursement pool. Caritas Healthcare (the former Catholic medical system in this state) has particularly been hard-hit by this. St. Elizabeth's hospital is on the verge of bankruptcy.
And of course, all the insurers in the state came up with "affordable" plans for the Romney Care law, but all of them have limited coverage, pre-existing conditions, and up to $10,000 in coinsurance and copays before they kick in.
Not to mention that less than a year after this was enacted, all the commercial insurers came back to the state and complained they were losing money and asked for a rate increase.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:58:52
Works for me, Bobber. Especially number 3
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 16:58:52
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, back me up on this one okay? It works on what level? That it provides care? Or that the claims are paid promptly and in full? If you go by the it provides care yeah it works, but Medicare Part D sucks ass; seniors are paying the highest possible price for meds. I am glad my folks had the good sense and the cash to get supplemental insurance that covers meds and the whole host of things that are not fully covered by it. Medicare also waste time on money on exhausting all options before going to the most obvious treatment. Case in point, my mother had degenerative arthritis in one of her knees. Sounds like a knee replacement, right? Not so fast bucky! First there was round of painful cortisone shots with limited effect. Did they do surgery after that? No. Another round of injections this time with shark cartilage. Again, limited or no effect. So after months of this crap, Mom finally gets the appointment with the orthopedic surgeon and the efficacious treatment she needed.
On the other hand, when she was diagnosed with breast cancer they didn't screw around. I think everything with word cancer is pretty much green lit.
Rant's over.
Just saying - the whole insurance thing is getting way over-complicated. The simple solution is:
1) Everyone is covered by Medicare. Period.
2) If you'd rather buy private insurance (or use employer-provided insurance), you can opt-out, and get a tax credit.
3) Medicare gets beefed up to work better for patients.
Seems like a simple cost-effective solution to me.
Works for me, Bobber. Especially number 3
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:02:56
Please feel free to cross post here!
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:02:56
Quote by Random:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
Note to self, I'm becoming increasingly confused if I'm talking about myself or another person
Please feel free to cross post here!
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 17:04:52
I saw a cue for the av-dork to chime in.
If Obama is on the East Coast, he's got to fly 3500 air miles to LAX or SFO and refuel (assuming he's flying on the campaign jet, a Boeing 757-200), as it doesn't have that kind of range. It's an additional 3500 air miles to Honolulu from the West Coast. So, it's a six-hour marathon to make the west coast, then six more to make it to mid-Pacific.
If he flies commercial (which he likely won't because of security concerns), wherever he is, he'd have to get to New York, Washington, or Atlanta and pick up a non-stop to Honolulu via Boeing 747 (which does have the range), or make the same tortuous route via the West Coast on a smaller jet.
I'd imagine there's some logistics involved with Secret Service and State and Local security (which Random alluded to) that have to be done before he flies in. Usually such visits need at least 48 hours to arrange and set up.
TriSec on 10/21/2008 17:04:52
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
I saw a cue for the av-dork to chime in.
If Obama is on the East Coast, he's got to fly 3500 air miles to LAX or SFO and refuel (assuming he's flying on the campaign jet, a Boeing 757-200), as it doesn't have that kind of range. It's an additional 3500 air miles to Honolulu from the West Coast. So, it's a six-hour marathon to make the west coast, then six more to make it to mid-Pacific.
If he flies commercial (which he likely won't because of security concerns), wherever he is, he'd have to get to New York, Washington, or Atlanta and pick up a non-stop to Honolulu via Boeing 747 (which does have the range), or make the same tortuous route via the West Coast on a smaller jet.
I'd imagine there's some logistics involved with Secret Service and State and Local security (which Random alluded to) that have to be done before he flies in. Usually such visits need at least 48 hours to arrange and set up.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 17:05:41
But i need people to visit...*poke* Maybe my next rant...It'll only be like..5 minutes.
Random on 10/21/2008 17:05:41
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
Note to self, I'm becoming increasingly confused if I'm talking about myself or another person
Please feel free to cross post here!
But i need people to visit...*poke* Maybe my next rant...It'll only be like..5 minutes.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:06:26
As long as they don't play this at Obama rallies, we are safe. :rofl:
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:06:26
As long as they don't play this at Obama rallies, we are safe. :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:06:42
I love it. I really do.
I WANT PIE!
I may even make a sweet potato Pie for Thanksgiving!
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:06:42
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
I want Pie.
I HAVE to admit, I LOVE when Barack talks about Pie. I do.
I saw one of these Pie vids on Fox news where they had a little pie picture show up everytime he said pie.
I love it. I really do.
I WANT PIE!
I may even make a sweet potato Pie for Thanksgiving!
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 17:07:43
Which i do believe in about 48 hours he plans on leaving. Correct?
Random on 10/21/2008 17:07:43
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
I saw a cue for the av-dork to chime in.
If Obama is on the East Coast, he's got to fly 3500 air miles to LAX or SFO and refuel (assuming he's flying on the campaign jet, a Boeing 757-200), as it doesn't have that kind of range. It's an additional 3500 air miles to Honolulu from the West Coast. So, it's a six-hour marathon to make the west coast, then six more to make it to mid-Pacific.
If he flies commercial (which he likely won't because of security concerns), wherever he is, he'd have to get to New York, Washington, or Atlanta and pick up a non-stop to Honolulu via Boeing 747 (which does have the range), or make the same tortuous route via the West Coast on a smaller jet.
I'd imagine there's some logistics involved with Secret Service and State and Local security (which Random alluded to) that have to be done before he flies in. Usually such visits need at least 48 hours to arrange and set up.
Which i do believe in about 48 hours he plans on leaving. Correct?
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:11:59
Linkity to the video!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even Cherry PIE!!!!
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:11:59
Quote by Mondobubba:
As long as they don't play this at Obama rallies, we are safe. :rofl:
Linkity to the video!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even Cherry PIE!!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:12:23
Having flown to Hawai'i many times, there are no non-stops from Washington or Atlanta to Honolulu. Every time we went, it was DCA to LAX or SFO then onto Honolulu. I'm just sayin. It all of those flights to and from there was only 747. Mostly it is DC 10s and I think the odd L1011. But I might be wrong about that.
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:12:23
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:
Oh what the FUCK...
These people disgust me, they really do.
I have a feeling Random's going to be Ranting Alot. Now he has a forum to do it without cluttering up the 4F blog.
I saw a cue for the av-dork to chime in.
If Obama is on the East Coast, he's got to fly 3500 air miles to LAX or SFO and refuel (assuming he's flying on the campaign jet, a Boeing 757-200), as it doesn't have that kind of range. It's an additional 3500 air miles to Honolulu from the West Coast. So, it's a six-hour marathon to make the west coast, then six more to make it to mid-Pacific.
If he flies commercial (which he likely won't because of security concerns), wherever he is, he'd have to get to New York, Washington, or Atlanta and pick up a non-stop to Honolulu via Boeing 747 (which does have the range), or make the same tortuous route via the West Coast on a smaller jet.
I'd imagine there's some logistics involved with Secret Service and State and Local security (which Random alluded to) that have to be done before he flies in. Usually such visits need at least 48 hours to arrange and set up.
Having flown to Hawai'i many times, there are no non-stops from Washington or Atlanta to Honolulu. Every time we went, it was DCA to LAX or SFO then onto Honolulu. I'm just sayin. It all of those flights to and from there was only 747. Mostly it is DC 10s and I think the odd L1011. But I might be wrong about that.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:15:22
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:15:22
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:15:27
Which is about the same time the mighty Southland Corp. Bailed on NE Florida.
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:15:27
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
No Sevs in Atlanta? Wow just like Jacksonville. It is a hotbed of locally owned, crappy convenience stores. Ever since the might Little Champ empire imploded it has been chaos, dogs and cats living together.
I seem to remember some hullaballo with Georgia and 7/11s back in the early-to-mid 80's, but I can't recall the details.
Which is about the same time the mighty Southland Corp. Bailed on NE Florida.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:16:07
Now, that is damn fine pie, Harry!
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 17:16:07
Quote by Raine:
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now, that is damn fine pie, Harry!
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 17:19:26
Random on 10/21/2008 17:19:26
I almost wish i added a part where I compared it to McCain's suspension of his campaign.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:23:40
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:23:40
Regarding Barack Obama and his Birth certificate:
Accusation: Barack Obama does not qualifyas a Natural Borm citizen becuase his Mother was too young
FALSE
Accusation: Barack Obama has refused to make his Birth certificate available becuase it contains damaging information about him.
AGAIN, FALSE.
Accusation: Barack Obama does not qualifyas a Natural Borm citizen becuase his Mother was too young
FALSE
Accusation: Barack Obama has refused to make his Birth certificate available becuase it contains damaging information about him.
AGAIN, FALSE.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:29:32
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:29:32
I am on a PIE mission... I came across this... Apple Pie Is Not Good Enough For Barack Obama
That's it. Barack hates Apple pie and he MUST be a terrorist!
--- seriously, that is the title of the you tube vid. Here is the vid descript:
Barack Obama on the stump in Philadelphia says that he likes coconut pie, not the traditonal "American" apple pie.
:rofl:
That's it. Barack hates Apple pie and he MUST be a terrorist!
--- seriously, that is the title of the you tube vid. Here is the vid descript:
Barack Obama on the stump in Philadelphia says that he likes coconut pie, not the traditonal "American" apple pie.
:rofl:
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 17:34:32
TriSec on 10/21/2008 17:34:32
Birth Certificate Information from Fight The Smears...
However, that is the official Obama website, you may have better results debunking arguments with a non-partisan link.
However, that is the official Obama website, you may have better results debunking arguments with a non-partisan link.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:39:13
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:39:13
Hey Stan!!! 
(I like Pie.)
(I like Pie.)
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:40:13
I take him at his word.
This Birth certificate thing is screwy.
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:40:13
Quote by TriSec:
Birth Certificate Information from Fight The Smears...
However, that is the official Obama website, you may have better results debunking arguments with a non-partisan link.
I take him at his word.
This Birth certificate thing is screwy.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 17:48:44
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 17:48:44
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 17:54:00
Raine on 10/21/2008 17:54:00
Pathetic, no --- really.
It's one thing for people here to joke about it, but for a presidential candidate too? Come on.
[uote]John McCain has hit Barack Obama on taxes, the economy, national security, health care, earmarks, the mortgage crisis and his association with a 1960s radical. Now, Mr. McCain has gone after what he suggested was Mr. Obama’s flip-flopping on his choice of World Series teams, the Philadelphia Phillies and the Tampa Bay Rays.
“I heard that Senator Obama was showing some love to the Rays down in Tampa Bay yesterday,’’ Mr. McCain told a modest crowd at a manufacturing plant on Tuesday morning here in this battleground state vital to his election on Nov. 4, as is Florida. “Now, I’m not dumb enough to get mixed up in aWorld Series between swing states, but I think I may have detected a little pattern with Senator Obama.’’
As the crowd booed, Mr. McCain added: “It’s pretty simple really. When he’s campaigning in Philadelphia, he roots for the Phillies, and when he’s campaigning in Tampa Bay, he shows love to the Rays. It’s kind of like the way he campaigns on tax cuts, but then votes for tax increases after he’s elected.
It's one thing for people here to joke about it, but for a presidential candidate too? Come on.
[uote]John McCain has hit Barack Obama on taxes, the economy, national security, health care, earmarks, the mortgage crisis and his association with a 1960s radical. Now, Mr. McCain has gone after what he suggested was Mr. Obama’s flip-flopping on his choice of World Series teams, the Philadelphia Phillies and the Tampa Bay Rays.
“I heard that Senator Obama was showing some love to the Rays down in Tampa Bay yesterday,’’ Mr. McCain told a modest crowd at a manufacturing plant on Tuesday morning here in this battleground state vital to his election on Nov. 4, as is Florida. “Now, I’m not dumb enough to get mixed up in aWorld Series between swing states, but I think I may have detected a little pattern with Senator Obama.’’
As the crowd booed, Mr. McCain added: “It’s pretty simple really. When he’s campaigning in Philadelphia, he roots for the Phillies, and when he’s campaigning in Tampa Bay, he shows love to the Rays. It’s kind of like the way he campaigns on tax cuts, but then votes for tax increases after he’s elected.
TRMS: Really?
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 17:56:38
RawStory is one of the sites that makes it easy to embed the videos:
BobR on 10/21/2008 17:56:38
Quote by Raine:
pFreind or pFoe?
John Stewart is genius.
RawStory is one of the sites that makes it easy to embed the videos:
Get the Flash Player to see this player.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 17:57:19
oh gawd, that is SUCH a bad song...
BobR on 10/21/2008 17:57:19
Quote by Mondobubba:
As long as they don't play this at Obama rallies, we are safe. :rofl:
oh gawd, that is SUCH a bad song...
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 18:01:20
REQUEST FOR SHANE-O!! a music mash-up:
So bye bye *sweet potato pie*
Drove my chevy to the levee *for some coconut pie*
Them good ole' boys were *eating pumpkin pie*
Singin' this is *some mighty fine pie*
this is *some damn fine pie*
This is merely a "serving suggestion"... use whatever voice bits work (note: might require using a couple from Twin Peaks).
BobR on 10/21/2008 18:01:20
Quote by Raine:Because EVERYONE wants a piece of the Pie.
I love it. I really do.
I WANT PIE!
I may even make a sweet potato Pie for Thanksgiving!
REQUEST FOR SHANE-O!! a music mash-up:
So bye bye *sweet potato pie*
Drove my chevy to the levee *for some coconut pie*
Them good ole' boys were *eating pumpkin pie*
Singin' this is *some mighty fine pie*
this is *some damn fine pie*
This is merely a "serving suggestion"... use whatever voice bits work (note: might require using a couple from Twin Peaks).
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:04:00
Oh dear.
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:04:00
Oh dear.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:06:23
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:06:23
Warning: link not safe for the mind - emphasis below added
Awwww.. I think the wingnuts are gettin' a lil teary-eyed 'cause we're playin' hardball.
Like Joe the Plumber, Americans who oppose the One (?!?!) are beginning to understand the level of retribution you can expect at the hands of religiously devoted followers. One red-blooded American feeling that pain right now is Republican Michele Bachmann of Minnesota's Sixth Congressional District. Having angered the devout, her race for reelection received an injection of tithes to her opponent's coffers, much of it courtesy internet cesspool DailyKos.
Awwww.. I think the wingnuts are gettin' a lil teary-eyed 'cause we're playin' hardball.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:09:29
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:09:29
$8,672.55 for Grampy's Make up.
Anonymous sources say Cindy is jealous. But seriously... read this:
WHY does Grampy need more make up this month? What the HELL is going on? What are they-- LITERALLY-- trying to cover up?
Anonymous sources say Cindy is jealous. But seriously... read this:
Tifanie White, who reportedly has done makeup for the shows "So You Think You Can Dance" and "American Idol," was paid a total of $8,672.55 in September by the McCain-Palin campaign, according to the campaign's latest monthly financial report filed this week with the Federal Election Commission. She was paid $5,583.43 the previous month, records show.
WHY does Grampy need more make up this month? What the HELL is going on? What are they-- LITERALLY-- trying to cover up?
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:12:55
Poor babies.
Liberals being liberals eh?
Yeah that was the cardinal sin.
They are really losing any ability to use common sense these days.
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:12:55
Quote by Scoopster:
Warning: link not safe for the mind - emphasis below addedLike Joe the Plumber, Americans who oppose the One (?!?!) are beginning to understand the level of retribution you can expect at the hands of religiously devoted followers. One red-blooded American feeling that pain right now is Republican Michele Bachmann of Minnesota's Sixth Congressional District. Having angered the devout, her race for reelection received an injection of tithes to her opponent's coffers, much of it courtesy internet cesspool DailyKos.
Awwww.. I think the wingnuts are gettin' a lil teary-eyed 'cause we're playin' hardball.
Liberals being liberals eh?
Yeah that was the cardinal sin.
They are really losing any ability to use common sense these days.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:13:13
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:13:13
wtf... I don't think even Tammy Faye Bakker had that much makeup on in her heyday.
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 18:13:42
TriSec on 10/21/2008 18:13:42
McCain, Obama, and Barr disagree about pie...
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:18:01
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:18:01
And what the heck does "Americans who oppose the One" mean?!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 18:23:03
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 18:23:03
I, Mondo am watching "The Battle For Algiers" I will be back when it is over. It is French and Arabic so, I need to read sub-titles.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:27:01
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:27:01
TriSec:
A NewsChannel 5 Photojournalist shot video of a crew taking down the American flag after Sen. McCain's campaign rally in New Town-St. Charles Monday.
In the video, you see the crane lower the flag to the ground and then a crewman cut rope connected to the flag.
The photojournalist stopped recording the video and approached the crew. They had no response to his questions about how the flag was handled.
NewsChannel 5 has a crew working on this story. We are seeking comment from Sen. McCain's campaign.
NewsChannel 5 wants to know how you feel about the way the flag was handled? Watch the video, and then leave us your comment below.
KSDK
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 18:27:12
Hide Behind Slogans
Reach out to weak-minded fools
Founding Fathers cry.
TriSec on 10/21/2008 18:27:12
Quote by Raine:
Hide Behind Slogans
Reach out to weak-minded fools
Founding Fathers cry.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:28:19
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:28:19
From the same dude on the gaming blog I quoted earlier..
:wacko:
the fact that congress has the power to pass laws doesn't give it the power to pass any laws. Otherwise congress would have unlimited powers.
:wacko:
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:29:05
McCain, BTW ---
HAD A FIT when he thought the Dems threw away Flags.
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:29:05
Quote by Raine:
TriSec:A NewsChannel 5 Photojournalist shot video of a crew taking down the American flag after Sen. McCain's campaign rally in New Town-St. Charles Monday.
In the video, you see the crane lower the flag to the ground and then a crewman cut rope connected to the flag.
The photojournalist stopped recording the video and approached the crew. They had no response to his questions about how the flag was handled.
NewsChannel 5 has a crew working on this story. We are seeking comment from Sen. McCain's campaign.
NewsChannel 5 wants to know how you feel about the way the flag was handled? Watch the video, and then leave us your comment below.
KSDK
McCain, BTW ---
HAD A FIT when he thought the Dems threw away Flags.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:31:46
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:31:46
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
TriSec:A NewsChannel 5 Photojournalist shot video of a crew taking down the American flag after Sen. McCain's campaign rally in New Town-St. Charles Monday.
In the video, you see the crane lower the flag to the ground and then a crewman cut rope connected to the flag.
The photojournalist stopped recording the video and approached the crew. They had no response to his questions about how the flag was handled.
NewsChannel 5 has a crew working on this story. We are seeking comment from Sen. McCain's campaign.
NewsChannel 5 wants to know how you feel about the way the flag was handled? Watch the video, and then leave us your comment below.
KSDK
McCain, BTW ---
HAD A FIT when he thought the Dems threw away Flags.
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 18:34:57
TriSec on 10/21/2008 18:34:57
Raine, I teach flag etiquette for the Boy Scouts.
I was very privileged to be part of the ground-handling team for the so-called "Mt Rushmore Flag" (one of the largest flags ever made, something ridiculous like 50x150 feet) as a member of Troop 61 when the flag was briefly displayed at Saugus High School a number of years ago.
This isn't about Mccain, really. This is about mishandling the flag and disrespecting everything it stands for. I would hope he should issue at least a statement about it.
But then again, I'm not holding my breath, it wasn't at an Obama rally, after all.
I was very privileged to be part of the ground-handling team for the so-called "Mt Rushmore Flag" (one of the largest flags ever made, something ridiculous like 50x150 feet) as a member of Troop 61 when the flag was briefly displayed at Saugus High School a number of years ago.
This isn't about Mccain, really. This is about mishandling the flag and disrespecting everything it stands for. I would hope he should issue at least a statement about it.
But then again, I'm not holding my breath, it wasn't at an Obama rally, after all.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 18:37:52
Spackle is expensive, even when you buy it by the case... :P
BobR on 10/21/2008 18:37:52
Quote by Raine:
$8,672.55 for Grampy's Make up.
Anonymous sources say Cindy is jealous. But seriously... read this:
WHY does Grampy need more make up this month? What the HELL is going on? What are they-- LITERALLY-- trying to cover up?
Spackle is expensive, even when you buy it by the case... :P
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 18:40:29
I guess he's never heard of the other two branches of government and what their roles are?
Christ, this is Social Studies 101...
BobR on 10/21/2008 18:40:29
Quote by Scoopster:
From the same dude on the gaming blog I quoted earlier..the fact that congress has the power to pass laws doesn't give it the power to pass any laws. Otherwise congress would have unlimited powers.
I guess he's never heard of the other two branches of government and what their roles are?
Christ, this is Social Studies 101...
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 18:42:34
one word:
phonebooks.
BobR on 10/21/2008 18:42:34
Quote by Raine:
Oh dear.
one word:
phonebooks.
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:42:47
:rofl:
I like Pie, you like pie?
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:42:47
Quote by TriSec:
McCain, Obama, and Barr disagree about pie...
:rofl:
I like Pie, you like pie?
Comment by wickedpam on 10/21/2008 18:48:13
see now that's plain old fashions funny
wickedpam on 10/21/2008 18:48:13
Quote by Raine:
Oh dear.
see now that's plain old fashions funny
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 18:50:02
Raine on 10/21/2008 18:50:02
Oh grampy... Oh dear.. NOT From the Onion.
A crowd of about 15 people assembled outside the airport's fence to see him descend from the plane.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:56:25
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 18:56:25
For Tri:
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 19:00:41
what do you expect?
It's almost like sneaking in under the cover of darkness. Talk about a poorly run campaign...
BobR on 10/21/2008 19:00:41
Quote by Raine:
Oh grampy... Oh dear.. NOT From the Onion.A crowd of about 15 people assembled outside the airport's fence to see him descend from the plane.
what do you expect?
News of McCain's plan to stop in Columbia surfaced on Thursday but remained unconfirmed by the campaign until Monday morning.
It's almost like sneaking in under the cover of darkness. Talk about a poorly run campaign...
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 19:01:09
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 19:01:09
One more:
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:02:02
livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:02:02
With all this talk about pie, what about people who like cake?
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 19:10:49
That is SO 18th Century.
It's ALL about PIE!
Raine on 10/21/2008 19:10:49
Quote by livingonli:
With all this talk about pie, what about people who like cake?
That is SO 18th Century.
It's ALL about PIE!
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 19:11:15
unAMERICAN!!
BobR on 10/21/2008 19:11:15
Quote by livingonli:
With all this talk about pie, what about people who like cake?
unAMERICAN!!
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 19:11:51
:rofl:
(bobber needs a new keyboard...
)
Raine on 10/21/2008 19:11:51
Quote by Scoopster:
One more:
:rofl:
(bobber needs a new keyboard...
)
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 19:13:59
Cake? We don't need no stinkin' cakes!
TriSec on 10/21/2008 19:13:59
Quote by livingonli:
With all this talk about pie, what about people who like cake?
Cake? We don't need no stinkin' cakes!
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 19:18:36
Raine on 10/21/2008 19:18:36
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:22:37
livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:22:37
Maron v. Seder played a clip from the Sarah Palin porno film. It has the usual wooden acting. They were playing the set-up where two drunken Russian soldiers stop at the Palin residence looking for a phone to call the KGB but you can guess where it's leading.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 19:23:58
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 19:23:58
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 19:26:18
Someone posted a link here last week to the script. It read pretty funny. I didn't realize it had been made already to the point they got a clip. Are you sure they weren't just reading it there on the show?
EDIT: Oh, and "the usual wooden acting"?? So how many pornos do you need to watch to be able to make that proclamation?
:P
BobR on 10/21/2008 19:26:18
Quote by livingonli:
Maron v. Seder played a clip from the Sarah Palin porno film. It has the usual wooden acting. They were playing the set-up where two drunken Russian soldiers stop at the Palin residence looking for a phone to call the KGB but you can guess where it's leading.
Someone posted a link here last week to the script. It read pretty funny. I didn't realize it had been made already to the point they got a clip. Are you sure they weren't just reading it there on the show?
EDIT: Oh, and "the usual wooden acting"?? So how many pornos do you need to watch to be able to make that proclamation?
:P
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 19:29:59
:rofl:
SO wrong.... so very very wrong...
Raine on 10/21/2008 19:29:59
Quote by Scoopster:
Too big to post this one, but I swear you'll laugh until you pee.
:rofl:
SO wrong.... so very very wrong...
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 19:31:16
They need a rewrite... Joe the Plumber MUST be in the script.
And now, it seems -- Ed the Dairy Man.
Raine on 10/21/2008 19:31:16
Quote by livingonli:
Maron v. Seder played a clip from the Sarah Palin porno film. It has the usual wooden acting. They were playing the set-up where two drunken Russian soldiers stop at the Palin residence looking for a phone to call the KGB but you can guess where it's leading.
They need a rewrite... Joe the Plumber MUST be in the script.
And now, it seems -- Ed the Dairy Man.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 19:31:59
BobR on 10/21/2008 19:31:59
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:41:42
I want to play Ed the Dairy Man. I can deliver the cream. :P
:skates off to penalty box:
livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:41:42
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Maron v. Seder played a clip from the Sarah Palin porno film. It has the usual wooden acting. They were playing the set-up where two drunken Russian soldiers stop at the Palin residence looking for a phone to call the KGB but you can guess where it's leading.
They need a rewrite... Joe the Plumber MUST be in the script.
And now, it seems -- Ed the Dairy Man.
I want to play Ed the Dairy Man. I can deliver the cream. :P
:skates off to penalty box:
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:43:42
livingonli on 10/21/2008 19:43:42
And they were playing the video on Maron v Seder, apparently Maron already had a copy.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 19:45:15
:spit: :gets out laptop screen cleaning goo:
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 19:45:15
Quote by Scoopster:
Too big to post this one, but I swear you'll laugh until you pee.
:spit:
:gets out laptop screen cleaning goo:
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 19:47:12
Bob The Builder, of course, is nowhere to be seen... (despite the fact that he knows how to erect things...)
BobR on 10/21/2008 19:47:12
Quote by Raine:
They need a rewrite... Joe the Plumber MUST be in the script.
And now, it seems -- Ed the Dairy Man.
Bob The Builder, of course, is nowhere to be seen... (despite the fact that he knows how to erect things...)
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 19:49:43
BobR on 10/21/2008 19:49:43
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 19:51:34
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 19:51:34
Comment by TriSec on 10/21/2008 19:58:08
: shakes little fist :
Damn you, scoop! (Ya know we have our very own pollwatcher in the Sunshine State...)
TriSec on 10/21/2008 19:58:08
Quote by Scoopster:
Early voter stopped from casting a ballot in Florida today..
: shakes little fist :
Damn you, scoop! (Ya know we have our very own pollwatcher in the Sunshine State...)
Comment by livingonli on 10/21/2008 20:00:04
livingonli on 10/21/2008 20:00:04
And now it's time for me to go head off to the salt mine. Have fun everyone.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 20:00:39
we do?
Random on 10/21/2008 20:00:39
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Scoopster:
Early voter stopped from casting a ballot in Florida today..
: shakes little fist :
Damn you, scoop! (Ya know we have our very own pollwatcher in the Sunshine State...)
we do?
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 20:01:29
Where Is that from?
Random on 10/21/2008 20:01:29
Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
One more:
:rofl:
(bobber needs a new keyboard...
Where Is that from?
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:06:45
Scoop, there is no bullshit or shenanigans going on here. I was poll watching for 8 hours yesterday. The big problem that is causing the lines (at least here) is the ballots have to be printed for each voter since they are not voting in their regular precincts. Since they only have two printers per station it causes a huge back up. Where I was nobody was turned away, everybody who voted got to vote. The only problem was with the paper on the ballots swelling because of the humidity. The scanner rejected those, so when voting closed they brought in a new scanner zeroed it out and tried running the ballots again. I was there as Democratic poll watcher, there was a lawyer from the Obama campaign. The guys from the Supervisor's office were getting more and more frustrated that the ballots wouldn't scan. I watched ballots for both McCain and Obama not scan.
So take that diary with a salt lick, okay?
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:06:45
Quote by Scoopster:
Early voter stopped from casting a ballot in Florida today..
Scoop, there is no bullshit or shenanigans going on here. I was poll watching for 8 hours yesterday. The big problem that is causing the lines (at least here) is the ballots have to be printed for each voter since they are not voting in their regular precincts. Since they only have two printers per station it causes a huge back up. Where I was nobody was turned away, everybody who voted got to vote. The only problem was with the paper on the ballots swelling because of the humidity. The scanner rejected those, so when voting closed they brought in a new scanner zeroed it out and tried running the ballots again. I was there as Democratic poll watcher, there was a lawyer from the Obama campaign. The guys from the Supervisor's office were getting more and more frustrated that the ballots wouldn't scan. I watched ballots for both McCain and Obama not scan.
So take that diary with a salt lick, okay?
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 20:11:54
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 20:11:54
oh dear my Mondo.. did you read it? :lol:
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:13:12
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:13:12
After watching yesterday's MCF with the paper and the scanners and the flaven I have decided that the best way to vote is with a printed ballot, a #2 pencil and ballot box. No mosheens of any kind. You mark the ballot, you put the ballot in the sealed box and you get an "I Voted" sticker.
Oh I forgot to mention if you want to watch ballots being counted in Florida all you need to do is show up at the polling station when they polls close and tell the staff you want to watch. When they are done, you can examine the tape from the mosheen, which is zeroed out each morning.
Oh I forgot to mention if you want to watch ballots being counted in Florida all you need to do is show up at the polling station when they polls close and tell the staff you want to watch. When they are done, you can examine the tape from the mosheen, which is zeroed out each morning.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:14:54
Yeah I did. I still wanted to point out there are no shenanigans. : slight red face:
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:14:54
Quote by Scoopster:
oh dear my Mondo.. did you read it? :lol:
Yeah I did. I still wanted to point out there are no shenanigans. : slight red face:
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:17:44
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:17:44
I did want to punch the Republican poll watcher in the head. I mentioned this last night, but it bears repeating. She kept going on about ACORN. Put her prize comment was when she for some reason started whining about lawyers and how all the justices on SCOTUS are lawyers. That was my WTF moment of the day.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:21:11
What about Thomas the Tank Engine?? Oh right isn't he British?
Mondobubba on 10/21/2008 20:21:11
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
They need a rewrite... Joe the Plumber MUST be in the script.
And now, it seems -- Ed the Dairy Man.
Bob The Builder, of course, is nowhere to be seen... (despite the fact that he knows how to erect things...)
What about Thomas the Tank Engine?? Oh right isn't he British?
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 20:36:36
:rofl:
Aww Mondo... you really need to read it. While you are indeed doing the lord's work, this is a great read.
Raine on 10/21/2008 20:36:36
Quote by Scoopster:
oh dear my Mondo.. did you read it? :lol:
:rofl:
Aww Mondo... you really need to read it. While you are indeed doing the lord's work, this is a great read.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 20:38:24
yes - Mondo (in case you haven't been paying attention the last few days...)
BobR on 10/21/2008 20:38:24
Quote by Random:
we do?
yes - Mondo (in case you haven't been paying attention the last few days...)
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 20:38:56
I am glad to hear the good news from the sunshine state!
Raine on 10/21/2008 20:38:56
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
oh dear my Mondo.. did you read it? :lol:
Yeah I did. I still wanted to point out there are no shenanigans. : slight red face:
I am glad to hear the good news from the sunshine state!
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 21:21:12
You're thinking of the guy that sent the real stuff...
BobR on 10/21/2008 21:21:12
Quote by Raine:
b-b-b-b-b-ut, I thought this guy committed suicide?
You're thinking of the guy that sent the real stuff...
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 21:32:51
silly me.
Raine on 10/21/2008 21:32:51
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
b-b-b-b-b-ut, I thought this guy committed suicide?
You're thinking of the guy that sent the real stuff...
silly me.
Comment by BobR on 10/21/2008 21:38:09
note: I should have said *supposedly* sent...
BobR on 10/21/2008 21:38:09
Quote by Raine:
silly me.
note: I should have said *supposedly* sent...
Comment by Raine on 10/21/2008 21:38:16
Raine on 10/21/2008 21:38:16
So should we have *ush Appointed for LIFE?
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the U.S. may be vulnerable to a terrorist attack during the next six months, with violent groups more likely to try to take advantage of a new president and administration.
``Any period of transition creates a greater vulnerability, meaning there's more likelihood of distraction,'' Chertoff said in an interview. ``You have to be concerned it will create an operational opportunity for terrorists.''
He said that would be true whether Democrat Barack Obama or Republican John McCain is elected president on Nov. 4. That comment undercuts McCain's argument that the U.S. would be more in danger of an attack if Obama, 47, wins.
McCain, 72, has been citing remarks by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden on Oct. 19 that ``it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy,'' should Obama win the White House.
Comment by Random on 10/21/2008 22:14:00
Random on 10/21/2008 22:14:00
So yeah...Random posted a story on his blog. It's a first draft, but i plan on using it to hand in for my creative writing class, so I would really like some feed back.
Also...It's a bit more twisted then some of my previous work so...uh...be warned.
Also...It's a bit more twisted then some of my previous work so...uh...be warned.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/21/2008 22:18:43
Scoopster on 10/21/2008 22:18:43
The pumpkin carving guy - includes an awesome tutorial!
Edit: He has a "Yes We Carve" page where people can post Obama-inspired carvings
And Mondo you're an inspiration to us all!
Edit: He has a "Yes We Carve" page where people can post Obama-inspired carvings
And
Mondo you're an inspiration to us all!
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 10/21/2008 23:13:09
I understand you believe that man descended from aaaaapes.
trojanrabbit on 10/21/2008 23:13:09
Quote by TriSec:Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
I find it really funny that the hand of "Obama" is obviously white.
Barack is half white. Maybe his other hand is black.
kinda like the cookies...
I understand you believe that man descended from aaaaapes.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/21/2008 23:52:41
Peter Percival Patterson had a pet pig named Porky
This Pet Pig named Porky loved pie
He loved pizza pie, pumpkin pie, pineapple pie, pizza pie, mince tarts
and Peter Percival Patterson's pet pig Porky loved
Pie for breakefast, pie for lunch, pie in the afternoon and pie before he went to bed.
Peter Percival Patterson's pet pig Porky ate soo much pie,
Do you know what he did?
He popped.
trojanrabbit on 10/21/2008 23:52:41
This Pet Pig named Porky loved pie
He loved pizza pie, pumpkin pie, pineapple pie, pizza pie, mince tarts
and Peter Percival Patterson's pet pig Porky loved
Pie for breakefast, pie for lunch, pie in the afternoon and pie before he went to bed.
Peter Percival Patterson's pet pig Porky ate soo much pie,
Do you know what he did?
He popped.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 00:14:32
IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 00:14:32
Howdy Bloggeristas!
Bill Maher called Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman Beavis and Butthead.
That plunky Sarah is re-writing her Veep job description. She thnks she's gonna run the senate guys and gals. Yikes!
Bill Maher called Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman Beavis and Butthead.
That plunky Sarah is re-writing her Veep job description. She thnks she's gonna run the senate guys and gals. Yikes!
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 00:18:44
Raine on 10/22/2008 00:18:44
No way! Izzy!!!
:rofl:
I may have to watch it tonite!!!
:rofl:
I may have to watch it tonite!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 00:21:45
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 00:21:45
KO with the Talking Heads!
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 00:28:44
Raine on 10/22/2008 00:28:44
Just turning on KO now....
I have one word!
PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have one word!
PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 00:37:29
AWESOME!
Mmmmm pie. Cake is icky. I think the non pro-Americans eat it.
Hey Raine!
IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 00:37:29
Quote by Scoopster:
The ratings are in - Rachel Maddow DOUBLES Abrams' audience, creams Larry King!!
AWESOME!
Mmmmm pie. Cake is icky. I think the non pro-Americans eat it.
Hey Raine!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 00:48:08
Damnit Raine, I'm gonna have to go up the Village Inn after Rachel for pie!
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 00:48:08
Quote by Raine:
Just turning on KO now....
I have one word!
PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damnit Raine, I'm gonna have to go up the Village Inn after Rachel for pie!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 00:49:11
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 00:49:11
The manatee. A new name for Hannity.
Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2008 00:58:35
TriSec on 10/22/2008 00:58:35
Evening, folks. Just passing through.
I've done a lot of system maintenence over the last two days, so I'm heading out to the flying field to turn some money into smoke and noise.
(Mondo, keep an eye out over [virtual] Jacksonville for an A-26 "Invader"...that would be me.)
I've done a lot of system maintenence over the last two days, so I'm heading out to the flying field to turn some money into smoke and noise.
(Mondo, keep an eye out over [virtual] Jacksonville for an A-26 "Invader"...that would be me.)
Comment by Random on 10/22/2008 01:02:45
Random on 10/22/2008 01:02:45
So...No comments on my story...is it that bad?
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 01:04:23
IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 01:04:23
Holy fuck, Mondo! David Frum is on the CNN machine. Why did I take a peek at it today? Back to Rachel!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:05:02
Landing at Cecil Field or the Naval Air Station? :winch: Please say Cecil. They are flying for the annual air show this weekend. I will be awoken way early on Saturday morning by the sound of jet and radial engines. :wacko:
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:05:02
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks. Just passing through.
I've done a lot of system maintenence over the last two days, so I'm heading out to the flying field to turn some money into smoke and noise.
(Mondo, keep an eye out over [virtual] Jacksonville for an A-26 "Invader"...that would be me.)
Landing at Cecil Field or the Naval Air Station? :winch: Please say Cecil. They are flying for the annual air show this weekend. I will be awoken way early on Saturday morning by the sound of jet and radial engines. :wacko:
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:06:27
And what is the fish lipped douche nozzle on about?
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:06:27
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Holy fuck, Mondo! David Frum is on the CNN machine. Why did I take a peek at it today? Back to Rachel!
And what is the fish lipped douche nozzle on about?
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:26:44
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:26:44
RFK, Jr is wrong about the perfect match thing here. It is what comes out of your mouth not what is on your ID. The head Dem lawyer was all about this when I did the poll watching training.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:28:41
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:28:41
The one provisional that was at my polling station yesterday was for McCain. I just happened to notice when they were putting it in the envelope last night. I'm just sayin.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 01:41:39
IzzyBitz on 10/22/2008 01:41:39
I didn't hang around long enough to hear what David Douche was talking about. Bay Buchanan was also there. My eyes hurt.
Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2008 01:47:11
TriSec on 10/22/2008 01:47:11
And now I'm back. Looks like the maintenence cycle was succesful.
I launched from Jacksonville NAS and made a wide sweep to the East just north of Downtown...
Say, do you have a nuke plant down there? That's what it looked like in the sim, anyway.
Not going to be helpful, it was on a 50º bearing line from downtown....roughly northwest of Craig airport.
I launched from Jacksonville NAS and made a wide sweep to the East just north of Downtown...
Say, do you have a nuke plant down there? That's what it looked like in the sim, anyway.
Not going to be helpful, it was on a 50º bearing line from downtown....roughly northwest of Craig airport.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:53:29
No, that is one of the most advanced coal fired power plants in the country. It has nuke plant style cooling towers. Since the discharge is into the St John's tidal estuary water that hot would be...bad.
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:53:29
Quote by TriSec:
And now I'm back. Looks like the maintenence cycle was succesful.
I launched from Jacksonville NAS and made a wide sweep to the East just north of Downtown...
Say, do you have a nuke plant down there? That's what it looked like in the sim, anyway.
Not going to be helpful, it was on a 50º bearing line from downtown....roughly northwest of Craig airport.
No, that is one of the most advanced coal fired power plants in the country. It has nuke plant style cooling towers. Since the discharge is into the St John's tidal estuary water that hot would be...bad.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:54:39
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 01:54:39
This bit on Rachel's show is priceless! :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 02:29:51
No, it's not bad.
I will scope it out in the morn. :hug:
Raine on 10/22/2008 02:29:51
Quote by Random:
So...No comments on my story...is it that bad?
No, it's not bad.
I will scope it out in the morn. :hug:
clintster
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 02:50:04
Raine on 10/22/2008 02:50:04
PIE!
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 03:06:43
What kind!
Mondobubba on 10/22/2008 03:06:43
Quote by Raine:
PIE!
What kind!
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 03:23:05
American, OR
Sweet potato!
:D
I will take coconut... cream ....
Raine on 10/22/2008 03:23:05
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
PIE!
What kind!
American, OR
Sweet potato!
:D
I will take coconut... cream ....
Comment by Random on 10/22/2008 03:32:34
Must...Not...Make...Pie...Fucker...Joke...
Random on 10/22/2008 03:32:34
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
PIE!
What kind!
American, OR
Sweet potato!
:D
I will take coconut... cream ....
Must...Not...Make...Pie...Fucker...Joke...
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 03:35:45
Make ACORN pie!!!!
Raine on 10/22/2008 03:35:45
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
PIE!
What kind!
American, OR
Sweet potato!
:D
I will take coconut... cream ....
Must...Not...Make...Pie...Fucker...Joke...
Make ACORN pie!!!!
Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2008 03:38:26
With extra nuts for Michelle Bachman.
livingonli on 10/22/2008 03:38:26
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
PIE!
What kind!
American, OR
Sweet potato!
:D
I will take coconut... cream ....
Must...Not...Make...Pie...Fucker...Joke...
Make ACORN pie!!!!
With extra nuts for Michelle Bachman.
Comment by Random on 10/22/2008 03:44:57
I think you mean Ann Coulter
Random on 10/22/2008 03:44:57
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
PIE!
What kind!
American, OR
Sweet potato!
:D
I will take coconut... cream ....
Must...Not...Make...Pie...Fucker...Joke...
Make ACORN pie!!!!
With extra nuts for Michelle Bachman.
I think you mean Ann Coulter
Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2008 03:51:32
livingonli on 10/22/2008 03:51:32
mAnn Coulter has her own nuts.
Comment by Random on 10/22/2008 03:57:42
Random on 10/22/2008 03:57:42
I believe that's the joke.
Comment by Random on 10/22/2008 04:00:20
Midgnight Music Theater!
Random on 10/22/2008 04:00:20
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 04:35:24
Pie... Even Acorn Pie. I want PIE!!!
(bear (sp? ) with me folks, I am on a roll... and even KO seems to get it these days.)
I LIKE PIE!
you like pie?
Raine on 10/22/2008 04:35:24
Quote by Random:
I believe that's the joke.
(bear (sp? ) with me folks, I am on a roll... and even KO seems to get it these days.)
I LIKE PIE!
you like pie?
Comment by Random on 10/22/2008 04:37:25
Well, that's nice, I posted the second draftrsion, and deleted the first draft. I suppose i should have been smart and kept both..>< sorry
Random on 10/22/2008 04:37:25
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
So...No comments on my story...is it that bad?
No, it's not bad.
I will scope it out in the morn. :hug:
Well, that's nice, I posted the second draftrsion, and deleted the first draft. I suppose i should have been smart and kept both..>< sorry
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2008 04:44:55
9675309.
Oh .. wait... I meant 8675309...
Good girls don't apologize for bad numbers, but I do...
:rofl:
Raine on 10/22/2008 04:44:55
Quote by Random:Midgnight Music Theater!
Oh .. wait... I meant 8675309...
Good girls don't apologize for bad numbers, but I do...
:rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2008 06:19:21
livingonli on 10/22/2008 06:19:21
Raine, you must have been the master of drunk dialing.
Comment by Random on 10/22/2008 12:10:54
...I don't get it.
Random on 10/22/2008 12:10:54
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:Midgnight Music Theater! 9675309.
Oh .. wait... I meant 8675309...
Good girls don't apologize for bad numbers, but I do...
:rofl:
...I don't get it.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2008 12:27:58
And an Adam's Apple too.. :lol:
BTW morning Random.. looks like we beat the bloggie to the door this morning.
Scoopster on 10/22/2008 12:27:58
Quote by livingonli:
mAnn Coulter has her own nuts.
And an Adam's Apple too.. :lol:
BTW morning Random.. looks like we beat the bloggie to the door this morning.