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Veteran's Day 2008
Author: TriSec    Date: 11/11/2008 11:23:43

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,064th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualties from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4193
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4054
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3732
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3335
Since Election (1/31/05): 2756

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 626
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 379
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 445



We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 570, 208, 000, 000 .00



Our friends at IAVA are celebrating veteran's day this year by launching a new ad campaign. Apparently, despite getting a new GI Bill in this last session of congress, the Pentagon is doing a terrible job publicizing it, so once again it falls to the veteran's groups to make sure the soldiers get everything they're entitled to. We all hope this will stop under President Obama.




What has the power to shut down part of JFK Airport, the Number 7 Subway Train, and one of the busiest intersections in New York City?

A bold new campaign to support veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan.

I’ve told you before about the isolation many troops feel when they come home from Iraq. It’s a shock to realize you’ve been fighting a war while for the average American, life has gone on basically unchanged. For many veterans returning from war, it can be hard to reconnect with friends, family and community.

So today, as people gather nationwide to honor all those who have served, I have a very exciting announcement to make. IAVA is launching a historic, groundbreaking Public Service Announcement (PSA) campaign aimed at easing the transition for veterans returning home from combat. Created by veterans, for veterans, this innovative media campaign is like nothing America has ever seen.

We’re going to make sure that today’s veterans find the community and the support that they have earned. These PSAs, which will soon be running nationwide, were created in partnership with the Ad Council. You might not know the organization, but you definitely know their campaigns - these are the folks responsible for “Friends Don’t Let Friends Drive Drunk” and “A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste.” This new campaign will be just as iconic and just as effective.

Sure, it’s a powerful ad. But what is this PSA going to do to help vets?

It will bring them together and connect them with the veteran’s hall of the future. Veterans coming home have told us again and again, the thing they need most of all is to reconnect with other vets. So this innovative campaign links veterans to a new private social network, exclusively for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, at www.CommunityOfVeterans.org.

For many veterans, they are in Baghdad one day and Brooklyn the next. They don’t come home to a community full of people who have also fought in Iraq. CommunityOfVeterans.org will be a place they can build bonds with people who understand where they’re coming from. The website will also provide veterans with a searchable database of vetted resources - including everything from free counseling to help with your home loan. In addition, they’ll get access to specials for vets only-from sporting event tickets to free music.

We’ve all heard horror stories about vets struggling to find their place after coming home from combat. This historic campaign will save lives, and it will finally turn the page on how veterans were treated in America after Vietnam. This is the welcome home that our newest generation of heroes has been waiting for.

But there is still more to do after Veterans Day is over. Our new President will have to move boldly and quickly to support new veterans and their families. And he’ll need the support of every single American-no matter who they voted for or where they stand on the war.







So, what is everyone doing for Veteran's Day this year? Unfortunately, this is one of those holidays that is "optional" in many companies. Fortunately, where I work now gives us the day. (You know who I work for; he can't NOT have Veteran's Day). I always thought it was unfair, especially if there are any servicemen that have to work on a day that was set aside to honor them. If you're sitting at your desk today, why not dash off an e-mail to the CEO asking him why?



Like I said, I have the holiday today...so file under "isn't it ironic?"....I'm off to burn flags this morning.

"The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning."

Every year on Veteran's Day, the town of Concord, MA puts on an elaborate ceremony with Revolutionary War re-enactors, current VFW and US Servicemen, and of course an army of local Scouts.

So...remember to fly your flag today if you can, and thank a veteran. We've still got a few weeks until Mr. Obama takes office, and probably a few months after that before anything will really change in Iraq. But hope is coming!


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 13:59:07
Morning :hug:

Comment by m-hadley on 11/11/2008 14:11:24
Mornin' Mala and Other 4Fers :coffee:

:hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Random on 11/11/2008 14:15:57
At some point...I'm going to shoot myself if we keep talking about animals.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 14:20:07
Is Phoneix the only stream that went down?

Comment by Random on 11/11/2008 14:31:02
Wow...no one is here.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 14:32:38
what do ya mean no one? *pouts*

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 14:35:35
fruit doesn't belong on pizza. I agree.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 14:39:34
Top 10 Most Annoying Phrases



I want to know where "it is what it is" ranks. Nothing has been pissing me off more then to hear someone utter that cop out saying.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 14:40:12
Good Morning!

Comment by starling310 on 11/11/2008 14:49:13
:banana:



Good morning!



It is a beautiful fall day here. 50 degrees, no wind, sunny skies!

And, PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA!!!!





Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 14:50:48
I was just going to say there - there are a good number of people in the news industry who don't vote because they feel they have to give atleast the appearance of being neutral when giving the news.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 14:51:08
AAWwwww - that was cute.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 14:53:01
Hey, does anyone know where I can find the specific information regarding changing the California Constitution? I just went to wiki and didn't see anything about it on the page.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 14:58:02
Quote by Raine:

Hey, does anyone know where I can find the specific information regarding changing the California Constitution? I just went to wiki and didn't see anything about it on the page.






California COnstitution - legal look up Don't have the specific info but seems like a good place to start

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 14:58:57
Quote by wickedpam:

I was just going to say there - there are a good number of people in the news industry who don't vote because they feel they have to give atleast the appearance of being neutral when giving the news.




I can understand tho, the idea of what party you are registered to being public information. But KO, is pretty clear on where his politics lie.



Comment by Shane-O on 11/11/2008 14:59:40
Quote by Raine:

Hey, does anyone know where I can find the specific information regarding changing the California Constitution? I just went to wiki and didn't see anything about it on the page.


What specific information?



Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:00:35
Quote by starling310:

:banana:



Good morning!



It is a beautiful fall day here. 50 degrees, no wind, sunny skies!

And, PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA!!!!



I bet you are wearing a scarf...



I woke up this morning and said to Bob, so any news this morning? For the first time, I found myself saying, I meant good news and said, there has to be good news!



What a wonderful feeling!



Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 15:03:36
Good morning everyone.



I got nuthin'.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:03:40
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Hey, does anyone know where I can find the specific information regarding changing the California Constitution? I just went to wiki and didn't see anything about it on the page.


What specific information?



HEya Shane!



I am trying to find out if what Chris said was correct, that in order to change the California Constitution you need a 2/3 vote and a constitutional convention.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 15:06:26
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I got nuthin'.




you need a hobby

Comment by starling310 on 11/11/2008 15:08:40
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

:banana:



Good morning!



It is a beautiful fall day here. 50 degrees, no wind, sunny skies!

And, PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA!!!!



I bet you are wearing a scarf...



I woke up this morning and said to Bob, so any news this morning? For the first time, I found myself saying, I meant good news and said, there has to be good news!



What a wonderful feeling!





It is nice to not have to hear about the campaign anymore!!!

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 15:09:12
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Hey, does anyone know where I can find the specific information regarding changing the California Constitution? I just went to wiki and didn't see anything about it on the page.


What specific information?



HEya Shane!



I am trying to find out if what Chris said was correct, that in order to change the California Constitution you need a 2/3 vote and a constitutional convention.


I have heard that at least some of the challenges to Prop 8 that are coming out are going to use that argument which would mean that passing a change to the California Constitution especially one that takes away rights cannot be valid through a simple majority vote especially when the constitution was supposed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 15:10:08
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I got nuthin'.




you need a hobby


My hobbies have taken over the space in my apartment.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:11:12
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Hey, does anyone know where I can find the specific information regarding changing the California Constitution? I just went to wiki and didn't see anything about it on the page.






California COnstitution - legal look up Don't have the specific info but seems like a good place to start
I have been looking there... Getting lost in a lot of stuff..



Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:11:21
morning folks... :coffee:

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 15:12:01
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I got nuthin'.




you need a hobby


My hobbies have taken over the space in my apartment.






then get organized so they don't - if I didn't limit mine to one and sometimes two rooms they would take over the whole house.



Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:13:01
:waiting: Still waiting to hear from John Lewis...



:xfingers:

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:14:01
Did Momma just say "I want to ball"??? :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 15:14:22
I want to go to one of the balls but I hear they are crazy crowded

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:14:43
Quote by Raine:

:waiting: Still waiting to hear from John Lewis...



:xfingers:


we won't hear from him until Dec at the earliest...

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:15:53
Quote by wickedpam:







then get organized so they don't - if I didn't limit mine to one and sometimes two rooms they would take over the whole house.



I ended up selling a couple of my keyboards because there just wasn't room for them.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:16:53
***hangs head in shame***



Why is always Georgia?

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 15:18:07
Does anyone have any suggestions on places that might still have rooms? So far, my search has been empty-handed. I do hope we will still have the official spring meet-up in case I can't go there. Not to mention I will probably not be driving down since my car can't handle long trips anymore.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 15:18:23
Morning everyone! Where to begin hmm...



I hope your commutes to work were less adveturous than mine was on this holiday.. DAMN it's too cold to be walking a half hour to catch a sunday schedule bus route!



Okay - "it is what it is" is right up there with "wuteva!" in my book. It's just a more polite way of blowing you off or trying to express frustration with a subject.



And in reply to Shel's post late last night.. Sorry about the lack of immediate response to your situation, but hang in there. I was without a steady permanent job for nearly five years, bounching from temp gig to temp gig, trying to get a foothold somewhere and then when I think I have one my foot gets crushed in the door. And I've been at the same point you have been - 2-3 months out from an assignment, living off minimal unemployment checks, filing tens of applications and resumes weekly only to get one response a month. IT SUCKS, but if anything it makes you work even harder. If you have to, stick with the temp jobs for a while - even in bad times people will be out sick, or on medical leave, or a company will have sudden short-term rushes where they need people to come in. That's where you pounce on the opportunities and earn a premium for being flexible. And you can collect between gigs, even if it's not much. Use the extra time to your advantage and learn to live minimally and outside the normal routine, especially if you're near an urban center. That way when you get back in the game you'll be at an even greater advantage.



:hug: Don't worry about a thing, 'cause every little thing is gonna be alright! :hug:

Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 15:21:27
Oh yah.. I've decided to build my brother a new computer for Christmas & his birthday.



Only thing I haven't decided yet is if I'm gonna retrofit my old machine and give it to him, or if I'm gonna gut the case and make him something more new & speedy.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:22:00
So, looks like Newt is in the running for the head of the RNC...





Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 15:31:53
Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:







then get organized so they don't - if I didn't limit mine to one and sometimes two rooms they would take over the whole house.



I ended up selling a couple of my keyboards because there just wasn't room for them.




This is why I'm happy yarn is squishy and pencils, pens, and watercolors are small - I can pack lots in one room

Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 15:33:46
Quote by livingonli:

Does anyone have any suggestions on places that might still have rooms? So far, my search has been empty-handed. I do hope we will still have the official spring meet-up in case I can't go there. Not to mention I will probably not be driving down since my car can't handle long trips anymore.




I would look outside the city but near the metro or VRE.





At this point I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it in on that day. It all depends on the weather, work and driving conditions



Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:34:44
Sorry for the size of this, but my sister sent me this email and I thought it was cute:



Why did the chicken cross the road?



BARACK OBAMA: The chicken crossed the road because it was time for a change! The chicken wanted change!



JOHN MCCAIN: My friends, that chicken crossed the road because he recognized the need to engage in cooperation and dialog with all the chickens on the other side of the road.



HILLARY CLINTON: When I was First Lady, I personally helped that little chicken to cross the road. This experience makes me uniquely qualified to ensure right from Day One that every chicken in this country gets the chance it deserves to cross the road. But then, this really isn't about me.



GEORGE W. BUSH: We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road, or not. The chicken is either or against us, or for us. There is no middle ground here.



DICK CHENEY: Where's my gun?



COLIN POWELL: Now to the left of the scree n, you can clearly see the satellite image of the chicken crossing the road.



BILL CLINTON: I did not cross the road with that chicken. What is your definition of crossing?



AL GORE: I invented the chicken.



JOHN KERRY: Although I voted to let the chicken cross the road, I am now against it! It was the wrong road to cross, and I was misled about the chicken's intentions. I am not for it now, and will remain against it.



AL SHARPTON: Why are all the chickens white? We need some black chickens.



DR. PHIL: The problem we have here is that this chicken won't realize that he must first deal with the problem on this side of the road before it goes after the problem on the other side of the road. What we need to do is help him realize how stupid he's acting by not taking on his current problems before adding new p roblems.



OPRAH: Well, I understand that the chicken is having problems, which is why he wants to cross this road so bad. So instead of having the chicken learn from his mistakes and take falls, which is a part of life, I'm going to give this chicken a car so that he can just drive across the road and not live his life like the rest of the chickens.



ANDERSON COOPER, CNN: We have reason to believe there is a chicken, but we have not yet been allowed to have access to the other side of the road.



NANCY GRACE: That chicken crossed the road because he's guilty! You can see it in his eyes and the way he walks.



PAT BUCHANAN: To steal the job of a decent, hardworking American.



MARTHA STEWART: No one called me to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a standing order at the Farmers Market to sell my eggs when the price dropped to a certain level. No little bird gave me any insider information.



DR SEUSS: Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, the chicken crossed the road, but why it crossed I've not been told.



ERNEST HEMINGWAY: To die in the rain, alone.



JERRY FALWELL: Because the chicken was gay! Can't you people see the plain truth? That's why they call it the other side. Yes, my friends, that chicken is gay. And if you eat that chicken, you will become gay, too. I say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that the liberal media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like the other side. That chicken should not be crossing the road. It's as plain and as simple as that.



GRANDPA: In my day we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Somebody told us the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough.



BARBARA WALTERS: Isn't that interesting? In a few moments, we will be listening to the chicken tell, for the first time, the heart warming story of how it experienced a serious case of molting, and went on to accomplish its lifelong dream of crossing the road.



ARISTOTLE: It is the nature of chickens to cross the road.



JOHN LENNON: Imagine all the chickens in the world crossing roads together, in peace.



BILL GATES: I have just released eChicken2008, which will not only cross roads, but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your checkbook. Internet Explorer is an integral part of eChicken2008. This new platform is much more stable and will never reboot.



ALBERT EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road, or did the road move beneath the chicken?



COLONEL SANDERS: Did I miss one?



Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:36:19
Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:37:31
You have a baby... in bar....



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/AAP/CamdenBeer.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 15:38:59
"oh dear"

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 15:39:00
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by livingonli:

Does anyone have any suggestions on places that might still have rooms? So far, my search has been empty-handed. I do hope we will still have the official spring meet-up in case I can't go there. Not to mention I will probably not be driving down since my car can't handle long trips anymore.




I would look outside the city but near the metro or VRE.





At this point I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it in on that day. It all depends on the weather, work and driving conditions



My other concern is the weather. If it decides to snow especially a major snow I would be leery of traveling anyway.

Comment by Shane-O on 11/11/2008 15:39:10
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Hey, does anyone know where I can find the specific information regarding changing the California Constitution? I just went to wiki and didn't see anything about it on the page.


What specific information?



HEya Shane!



I am trying to find out if what Chris said was correct, that in order to change the California Constitution you need a 2/3 vote and a constitutional convention.


I have heard that at least some of the challenges to Prop 8 that are coming out are going to use that argument which would mean that passing a change to the California Constitution especially one that takes away rights cannot be valid through a simple majority vote especially when the constitution was supposed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.


:hug: back at y'all.

I wish it was that clear - that's why it will end up in the Courts -AGAIN. Give me a few hours and I can send you some primary material (statutes, cases) -- but the problem is that the conclusion is not clear. The 2/3 vote is the rule for legislative amendment of the CA Constitution - unsure about amendment via proposition...



Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:40:53
Quote by Raine:

So, looks like Newt is in the running for the head of the RNC...





She turned me into a newt!.... I got better...

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:41:42
:D I just posted that story... Michael Steele and Newt. :rolleyes2:

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:43:03
Quote by Shane-O:

:hug: back at y'all.

I wish it was that clear - that's why it will end up in the Courts -AGAIN. Give me a few hours and I can send you some primary material (statutes, cases) -- but the problem is that the conclusion is not clear. The 2/3 vote is the rule for legislative amendment of the CA Constitution - unsure about amendment via proposition...

That is what I get confusled about too.







Comment by m-hadley on 11/11/2008 15:43:27
Quote by Raine:

So, looks like Newt is in the running for the head of the RNC...







That'd be just about right for the GOP - heading into the future by taking a gigantic step backward Good thinking - go with that move :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by TriSec on 11/11/2008 15:43:34
Morning again!



Back from a lovely morning with the Veterans...



I even stood in front of Mr. Thoreau's grave in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery today. It sure feels like everything is going to be alright.



:peace:



:usa:





Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 15:45:55
This is what a phishing email looks like. I got this at my office email. FWIW - I have no Google AdWords account....



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Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 15:48:00
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by livingonli:

Does anyone have any suggestions on places that might still have rooms? So far, my search has been empty-handed. I do hope we will still have the official spring meet-up in case I can't go there. Not to mention I will probably not be driving down since my car can't handle long trips anymore.




I would look outside the city but near the metro or VRE.





At this point I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make it in on that day. It all depends on the weather, work and driving conditions



My other concern is the weather. If it decides to snow especially a major snow I would be leery of traveling anyway.




well, January in DC - there's always a chance but keep an eye on it and I sometimes chech out the farmer's almanac



Comment by m-hadley on 11/11/2008 15:49:38
Fig Newtons and Oreos - what a bunch of kookies they have in the Rethuglican party :D

Sometimes I crack myself up - sometimes I just plain crack up :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:57:26
Indians pitcher and longtime broadcaster Herb Score has left us. HE was 75.

Comment by Shane-O on 11/11/2008 15:58:13
Quote by m-hadley:

Fig Newtons and Oreos - what a bunch of kookies they have in the Rethuglican party :D

Sometimes I crack myself up - sometimes I just plain crack up :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:


:rofl: -- I am SO stealing that joke, Faye. ;)



Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 15:58:23
Quote by TriSec:

Morning again!



Back from a lovely morning with the Veterans...



I even stood in front of Mr. Thoreau's grave in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery today. It sure feels like everything is going to be alright.



:peace:



:usa:



It's such a nice feeling...



Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 16:01:45
AIG caught going on another -- ANOTHER -- retreat.d this one during the SECOND AIG bailout.

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 16:03:28
Quote by TriSec:

Morning again!



Back from a lovely morning with the Veterans...



I even stood in front of Mr. Thoreau's grave in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery today. It sure feels like everything is going to be alright.



:peace:



:usa:





That's an interesting name, since Sleepy Hollow is in NY....

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 16:08:24
Quote by Raine:

AIG caught going on another -- ANOTHER -- retreat.d this one during the SECOND AIG bailout.


They could just as easily have their conference at the local Holiday Inn for a fraction of the cost. Instead, they still have this sense of entitlement.

Comment by starling310 on 11/11/2008 16:09:04
Or, design some better cars. Or, make them affordable. . . etc, etc, etc.



Comment by starling310 on 11/11/2008 16:10:04
Yup! The caller is right. He's just got the wrong solution.



Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 16:11:10
Healthcare in Canada is NOT horrible. Yet another example of "truthiness" from the RW that is patently false.

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 16:12:21
If there are any problems in Canada right now, it's because the right-wing is still in charge up north and Harper is a Bush clone with no charisma.

Comment by TriSec on 11/11/2008 16:14:52
Quote by BobR:

Healthcare in Canada is NOT horrible. Yet another example of "truthiness" from the RW that is patently false.




My dear friend Jordan W. (Liverpool, NS) had two liver and kidney transplants and was on dialysis for the last 10 years of his life. They gave him 10 years he wouldn't have had, so Canadian healthcare has always done right by me. (but they couldn't do everything, he is deceased now.)



They also saved me from dying in the backwoods in 1987...and I have an aunt in Toronto with MS who is being well cared for at this time.







Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 16:14:56
Quote by BobR:

Healthcare in Canada is NOT horrible. Yet another example of "truthiness" from the RW that is patently false.


If Harper tried to privatize Health Care, and there are rumors that he would like to. He would be skewered alive and put on a stick. There isn't a Canadian other than right-wing ideologues who would want to drop National Healthcare and do it the way it's done here.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 16:16:36
.... this whole thing with AIG just sickens me. And they don't even give a shit if they get caught, they'll do it again and keep begging for more money.



This has to be the most glaring example of the kind of legacy that Bush will be leaving behind for Obama and all of us to clean up - the blatant waste of money and overt wallowing in their greed, without a care for their customers or even the taxpayers that have now bailed them out twice and soon to be a third time. It's a sickness - a cancer that has infested our economic & governmental systems and our society. And it's time for a big fuckin' beam of radiation to wipe the damn thing out.

Comment by TriSec on 11/11/2008 16:18:26
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

Morning again!



Back from a lovely morning with the Veterans...



I even stood in front of Mr. Thoreau's grave in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery today. It sure feels like everything is going to be alright.



:peace:



:usa:





That's an interesting name, since Sleepy Hollow is in NY....






Sleepy Hollow, Concord...



I stood here this morning:



http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles14976.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 11/11/2008 16:26:40
cute

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 16:27:06


Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 16:51:40
Comment by TriSec on 11/11/2008 17:01:04
Oh, my.



I finally caught up with Keith's Prop 8 special comment.



He's more intense when he's *not* ranting. Calm, reasoned, cold logic from Keth. Frighteningly intense.





Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 17:12:44
Headlines like this just make me ill. They were repeating this meme last night on FAUX News - Bush is being SO beneficent with this power turnover to Obama. And then they pointed out that poor poor Bush didn't have it as easy as Obama is having it, because of the delay due to the SCOTUS situation.



Boo-f*cking-hoo... :rolleyes:

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 17:24:20
Quote by BobR:

Headlines like this just make me ill. They were repeating this meme last night on FAUX News - Bush is being SO beneficent with this power turnover to Obama. And then they pointed out that poor poor Bush didn't have it as easy as Obama is having it, because of the delay due to the SCOTUS situation.



Boo-f*cking-hoo... :rolleyes:


And since Bush forced it to the Supreme Court in the first place, I will break out my teeny



But of course, it it hadn't had gone to the Supreme Court, maybe Florida would have had to do the vote count and Gore would have ended up winning.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 17:34:37
Awww... So sad... NOT.

The HillaryClinton Forum (home to loverly PUMA's --- like that one lady on the SMS, can't remember her name ---- maybe Random or Trojan can) has closed it's doors.



November 11, 2008



After 9 months, and after devoting seemingly thousands of hours to the administration of this forum, it's time to draw the curtain. I hope those who participated in the HCF during the election found the experience productive. It was like a rollercoaster, and we had some amazing times, that's for sure. Now, however, it's time for me (& maybe you all too!) to take a rest. For me "the battle" is over. I had wanted to move the forum in a different direction to be more inclusive of all people, regardless of political preference, but clearly now is not the right time for that. As such, I have tonight decided, without endless discussion & division, to close the forum until further notice. Maybe in the future some time we can try again at "CommonGroundPolitics" when emotions are less raw. Til then, be well.



Best of luck to everyone,

Admin.






Well at least one sight that is filled with vitriol and hatred is gone.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 17:58:05
Sarah Palin's not the only loser to force women to pay for rape kits



Watch.. this shit's gonna become a plank in the 2012 RNC platform.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 18:55:39
Quote by Scoopster:

Sarah Palin's not the only loser to force women to pay for rape kits



Watch.. this shit's gonna become a plank in the 2012 RNC platform.
Not if I have anything to do with it.



Good gawd.



Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 18:59:16
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp275/TomBorthwick/Shocker.jpg




If only Bush knew the meaning of that hand gesture...

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 19:02:25
Oh, Sarah sarah sarah... do you really wanna go there?



(amy poehler voice) REALLY?



This woman just keeps poking at a hornets nest. I hope she has epinephrine.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 19:07:53
Quote by Scoopster:

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp275/TomBorthwick/Shocker.jpg




If only Bush knew the meaning of that hand gesture...


:redface:



can you tell me? (I do not know)

Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 19:14:08
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp275/TomBorthwick/Shocker.jpg




If only Bush knew the meaning of that hand gesture...


:redface:



can you tell me? (I do not know)


It's REALLY dirty so try not to be too shocked.. it's a euphemism for .. finger-fucking. ("two in the pink, one in the stink")



The irony - a soldier with one leg giving that gesture while in a pic with Bush, who basically double-fucked the nation.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 19:17:27
Quote by Scoopster:

It's REALLY dirty so try not to be too shocked.. it's a euphemism for .. finger-fucking. ("two in the pink, one in the stink")



The irony - a soldier with one leg giving that gesture while in a pic with Bush, who basically double-fucked the nation.
that is too funny!!!











Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 19:23:57
Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 20:09:32
Cold day.. bloggie's curled up in bed! :sleeping:

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 20:17:47
Quote by Scoopster:

Cold day.. bloggie's curled up in bed! :sleeping:


mmMMmmm everyone in the bed!!!



So cozy... so warm...



sniff... THAT was Kizzy!!! ... :rofl:





(off to the penalty box I go!!!)

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 20:19:41
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/IMG_1805.jpg


Whatchutalkin 'bout Willis?


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/11/2008 20:29:28
:Strolls in:



I ended a 5.5 year relationship today. It was all good! I told my shrink I'm ready to go it alone. She was very proud of me. I am very proud of myself. I am also not taking my meds. I've not taken any since Friday last. I feel good! :metal:



After the session, I went to the movies and saw "Relegulous" what a friggin' hoot. I am not sure who the most clueless of the interviewees was. It might be the church of cannabis guy.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/11/2008 20:30:30
Quote by Raine:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/IMG_1805.jpg


Whatchutalkin 'bout Willis?






Kizzy rockin the Shifty Eyed Dog look! :metal:

Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 20:38:53
Quote by Mondobubba:

:Strolls in:



I ended a 5.5 year relationship today. It was all good! I told my shrink I'm ready to go it alone. She was very proud of me. I am very proud of myself. I am also not taking my meds. I've not taken any since Friday last. I feel good! :metal:



After the session, I went to the movies and saw "Relegulous" what a friggin' hoot. I am not sure who the most clueless of the interviewees was. It might be the church of cannabis guy.


Hmm.. Church of Cannabis you say?



That sounds like a religion I can get behind.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/11/2008 20:45:59
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

:Strolls in:



I ended a 5.5 year relationship today. It was all good! I told my shrink I'm ready to go it alone. She was very proud of me. I am very proud of myself. I am also not taking my meds. I've not taken any since Friday last. I feel good! :metal:



After the session, I went to the movies and saw "Relegulous" what a friggin' hoot. I am not sure who the most clueless of the interviewees was. It might be the church of cannabis guy.


Hmm.. Church of Cannabis you say?



That sounds like a religion I can get behind.




Yep based in Amsterdam! Bill Mahr and the pothead pontiff were smoking some weed and waxing philosophic. Then the pontiff's hair caught on fire from the candles behind him! :rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 20:55:09
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/IMG_1805.jpg


Whatchutalkin 'bout Willis?






Kizzy rockin the Shifty Eyed Dog look! :metal:


Kizzy is a hoot indeed. How is she with the cats though?

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 20:57:31
Quote by Mondobubba:





Yep based in Amsterdam! Bill Mahr and the pothead pontiff were smoking some weed and waxing philosophic. Then the pontiff's hair caught on fire from the candles behind him! :rofl:


That guy was a complete stoner. I don't think his hair actually caught fire, I think Maher was just f*cking with him...

Comment by livingonli on 11/11/2008 20:59:51
Oh, well. It's time for me to get to the salt mine and since I am AD tonight I won't be able to really blog so I hope to talk to you all tomorrow. :peace:

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 21:03:12
Quote by livingonli:



Kizzy is a hoot indeed. How is she with the cats though?


She really tries to be friends with them, but they are Heathers...

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 21:05:28
Mondo... congratulations!



It's a very big step I know... Seriously, congrats.

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 21:11:42
I saw this on the facecrack - get ready for an overdose of cute:





Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 21:11:56
Oh man I need to see that flick now.. the idea of a stoned Bill Maher interviewing a guy whose hair is on fire just sounds awesome.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/11/2008 21:13:11
Comment by TriSec on 11/11/2008 21:54:03
Quote by BobR:

I saw this on the facecrack - get ready for an overdose of cute:









Ack! My Pancreas!





Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 22:03:03
Comment by m-hadley on 11/11/2008 22:20:28
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

:Strolls in:



I ended a 5.5 year relationship today. It was all good! I told my shrink I'm ready to go it alone. She was very proud of me. I am very proud of myself. I am also not taking my meds. I've not taken any since Friday last. I feel good! :metal:



After the session, I went to the movies and saw "Relegulous" what a friggin' hoot. I am not sure who the most clueless of the interviewees was. It might be the church of cannabis guy.


Hmm.. Church of Cannabis you say?



That sounds like a religion I can get behind.




Yep based in Amsterdam! Bill Mahr and the pothead pontiff were smoking some weed and waxing philosophic. Then the pontiff's hair caught on fire from the candles behind him! :rofl:




Mondo,

Congrats on movin' on, I am in the process of breaking up with my therapist (but just can't quit the meds :nervous:). I also loved that scene from Religulous (another favorite was Mr. Maher's interview with the guy in the startched white shirt with his cuffs tastefully turned up bragging about his marriage to a former lesbian and their brood of kids. Maher: "you apparently haven't met Little Richard" in response to the sharp-dressed dude's assertion that nobody is born gay.

Scoopster,

I try to attend the Church of the Holy Smoke as often as possible :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 22:24:38
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by BobR:

I saw this on the facecrack - get ready for an overdose of cute:









Ack! My Pancreas!



Isulin!!! Stat!!!



Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 22:55:02
Listening to Randi talk about Joe... you do know he was offered to Chair the department of Veterans affairs?





He turned it down.

Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 22:57:13
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

:Strolls in:



I ended a 5.5 year relationship today. It was all good! I told my shrink I'm ready to go it alone. She was very proud of me. I am very proud of myself. I am also not taking my meds. I've not taken any since Friday last. I feel good! :metal:



After the session, I went to the movies and saw "Relegulous" what a friggin' hoot. I am not sure who the most clueless of the interviewees was. It might be the church of cannabis guy.


Hmm.. Church of Cannabis you say?



That sounds like a religion I can get behind.




Yep based in Amsterdam! Bill Mahr and the pothead pontiff were smoking some weed and waxing philosophic. Then the pontiff's hair caught on fire from the candles behind him! :rofl:




Mondo,

Congrats on movin' on, I am in the process of breaking up with my therapist (but just can't quit the meds :nervous:). I also loved that scene from Religulous (another favorite was Mr. Maher's interview with the guy in the startched white shirt with his cuffs tastefully turned up bragging about his marriage to a former lesbian and their brood of kids. Maher: "you apparently haven't met Little Richard" in response to the sharp-dressed dude's assertion that nobody is born gay.

Scoopster,

I try to attend the Church of the Holy Smoke as often as possible :D

Cheers,

mfaye


The movie was brilliant.



I loved the man who said he was Jesus reborn... he was the most genuine character of the movie.





Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 22:57:31
Quote by Raine:

Listening to Randi talk about Joe... you do know he was offered to Chair the department of Veterans affairs?



He turned it down.


Cry me a river... :violin:

Comment by BobR on 11/11/2008 23:07:05
Paul Reichoff will be on Rachel Maddow tonight @ 9:00... Could this be the return of "Ask a Vet"? :pray:

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/11/2008 23:09:59
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:





Yep based in Amsterdam! Bill Mahr and the pothead pontiff were smoking some weed and waxing philosophic. Then the pontiff's hair caught on fire from the candles behind him! :rofl:


That guy was a complete stoner. I don't think his hair actually caught fire, I think Maher was just f*cking with him...






I know, I didn't want to ruin for Scoop! :rofl:

Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/11/2008 23:28:13
Quote by Raine:

Awww... So sad... NOT.

The HillaryClinton Forum (home to loverly PUMA's --- like that one lady on the SMS, can't remember her name ---- maybe Random or Trojan can) has closed it's doors.



November 11, 2008



After 9 months, and after devoting seemingly thousands of hours to the administration of this forum, it's time to draw the curtain. I hope those who participated in the HCF during the election found the experience productive. It was like a rollercoaster, and we had some amazing times, that's for sure. Now, however, it's time for me (& maybe you all too!) to take a rest. For me "the battle" is over. I had wanted to move the forum in a different direction to be more inclusive of all people, regardless of political preference, but clearly now is not the right time for that. As such, I have tonight decided, without endless discussion & division, to close the forum until further notice. Maybe in the future some time we can try again at "CommonGroundPolitics" when emotions are less raw. Til then, be well.



Best of luck to everyone,

Admin.






Well at least one sight that is filled with vitriol and hatred is gone.




Sorry, I've tossed her name down the memory hole as well. Adele? Adela? I suppose if I really felt ambitious I could check the SMS archives I have from back near convention time. But right now I'm just taking a break from exercising on the Wii.



Comment by Raine on 11/11/2008 23:57:33
Ahh YES!! !Adele!



Poor Adele. I wish her the best. Thanks Trojan!!

Comment by Raine on 11/12/2008 00:05:29
Quote by BobR:

Paul Reichoff will be on Rachel Maddow tonight @ 9:00... Could this be the return of "Ask a Vet"? :pray:


That would be awesome!



I know that he was in NYC today on board the Intrepid, and he marched in the PArade today in NYC.



Comment by MMB on 11/12/2008 00:15:38
Congrats Mondo as for me i am happy to still be seeing my shrink of 10 years next month after so many years together we have a much closer relationship than Dr. patient he is more like a friend and protecter. I also feel great on my Cymbalta!!! I guess it takes all kinds ta ta.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/12/2008 00:32:31
h boy, does the kid from Alpharetta, GA in the Jeopardy Teen Tournament look like an almost daily swirly victim.

Comment by MMB on 11/12/2008 00:55:08
We can't all be intelligent as well as beautiful or in his case handsome. Im sure he has some internet friends he will be fine

Comment by Random on 11/12/2008 01:16:22
Quote by Raine:

Ahh YES!! !Adele!



Poor Adele. I wish her the best. Thanks Trojan!!


I miss Adele...I once played a tool that drew her out thinking someone thought like her...I was young and bored...and generally pissed about Florida being included in the delegates. Also, that was pre-Random.

Comment by Random on 11/12/2008 01:18:27
I'm going to assume it's real, because you really can't get gov locations without federal approval. So i'm going to say this is a bit much, and just a wee bit creepy.

Scary

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/12/2008 02:07:42
So, BRaine, what is the drastic social agenda that Chambliss is blathering about? I'm a liberal, but I didn't get the memo.

Comment by TriSec on 11/12/2008 02:15:29
:choke: :hack: :kaff:



Just hanging out here with my old friend Fluenza....



:thud:



Some Tarawa thingy going on on the History channel. That's pretty cool.





Comment by Mondobubba on 11/12/2008 02:27:11
Quote by TriSec:

:choke: :hack: :kaff:



Just hanging out here with my old friend Fluenza....



:thud:



Some Tarawa thingy going on on the History channel. That's pretty cool.









Yeah, but it's on the History Channel. I'm just sayin. :shrug:

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/12/2008 02:35:58
Oh Big Paul is on Rachel riiiiight now!