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Punked!
Author: Raine    Date: 12/04/2008 13:14:45

... and also she won't get fooled again---
When a man sounding remarkably like President-elect Barack Obama called a Florida congresswoman Wednesday, she assumed it was a crank call.

So Republican Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen hung up. But, the Miami Herald reports, this was no prank.

"I thought it was one of the radio stations in South Florida playing an incredible, elaborate, terrific prank on me," Ros-Lehtinen told the newspaper. "They got Fidel Castro to go along. They've gotten Hugo Chavez and others to fall for their tricks. I said, 'Oh, no, I won't be punked.'"
I guess the phone call adventures of Sarah Palin have a few people gun shy, but I found this little story fascinating. Although I am sure this is a strange fluke, I am left wondering how many times the pResident that we have now has actually made calls like this -- Especially across the aisle.

I mean not everything in Washington is a joke, right? Right? It's not like Obama tried to sell her the Empire State Building or anything.
In one of the biggest heists in American history, the Daily News "stole" the $2 billion Empire State Building.
And it wasn't that hard.

The News swiped the 102-story Art Deco skyscraper by drawing up a batch of bogus documents, making a fake notary stamp and filing paperwork with the city to transfer the deed to the property. [...]

Less than 90 minutes after the bogus documents were submitted on Monday, the agency rubber-stamped the transfer from Empire State Land Associates to Nelots Properties LLC. Nelots is "stolen" spelled backward.
And you wonder how people like Paulson can get away with stealing 700 billion dollars from Americans.

Yeah I know the stories weren't very political... Seems to me it should be easier to talk to a congressperson than it is to steal a building, no?


Now -- I am off to talk to a guy about a bridge in Brooklyn he is trying to sell me.

:peace: and
Raine

 

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Comment by Random on 12/04/2008 13:23:05
It seems to me a smart person (especially one working in government, who supposedly would be contacted by the president) would wait half a minute past the introduction to see if it's a prank or not (because if the President asks you is your refrigerator is running, it's a prank. And if he asks about a bill, it's not)

Comment by Shane-O on 12/04/2008 13:26:06
Empire State Building theft - HA! -- Trump should have tried that route (rather than trying to obtain control over the ground lease via eviction of the primary lease holders) in the late 90's -- maybe he would have been more successful...

Comment by BobR on 12/04/2008 13:38:39
Nothing quite says Thursday morning like turducken wrapped in bacon...

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 13:40:02
Good Morning!



(This REALLY is Raine) :P

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 13:41:08
Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 13:46:56
Quote by BobR:

Nothing quite says Thursday morning like turducken wrapped in bacon...


Ya know I saw that the other day, and I thought the name "turbaconducken" indicated that it had that turban-like thing in the middle.. :lol:



Aaaaand morning all! Today's pearl of wisdom - don't ever use Zoots for dry cleaning. I waited TWO WEEKS for my winter coat and it cost 42 BUCKS.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 13:48:40


"Spitzer Swallows" would be a natural complement to Ask Dr. Lovemonkey or Savage Love in the alternative weeklies.. :rofl:



Edit: oh wait.. not that kind of advice!

Comment by Shane-O on 12/04/2008 13:58:33
Quote by Raine:

Good Morning!



(This REALLY is Raine) :P




Confused -- did someone steal your online identity???

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 14:01:43
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Good Morning!



(This REALLY is Raine) :P




Confused -- did someone steal your online identity???


Hehehe.. I think it's something to do with today's opener.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 14:02:27
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Good Morning!



(This REALLY is Raine) :P




Confused -- did someone steal your online identity???
naw... it was just a lame joke to go with my oh so lame blog today...



I am still giggling that someone stole the Empire state building!



Comment by Shane-O on 12/04/2008 14:07:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Good Morning!



(This REALLY is Raine) :P




Confused -- did someone steal your online identity???
naw... it was just a lame joke to go with my oh so lame blog today...



I am still giggling that someone stole the Empire state building!



I say (not that it matters that much) - NOT a lame opening... I loved the ESB story.



Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 14:10:28
:rofl:



Mala you here yet?



:hug:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 14:20:22
http://www.kannikskorner.com/toytheater/toyimages/matchdoor.gif


Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 14:20:43
I was having a moment





Morning :hug:

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 14:28:20
Sounds like Novak's Brain tumour is really getting worse.

Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 14:30:49
Segniteerg.



Pfft.



:shrug:







Comment by BobR on 12/04/2008 14:39:18
Quote by TriSec:

Segniteerg.



Pfft.



:shrug:







ydwoh!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 14:48:00
is that MNRN?

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 15:09:22
Everyone is so quiet - RL is interferring with blogging ;)

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 15:14:48
Quote by wickedpam:

Everyone is so quiet - RL is interferring with blogging ;)




I am here just trying to get some stuff done on a project this morning! It's interfering with my blogging time!!



Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 15:17:46
what kinda project (yes I'm being nosey)

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 15:18:50
Quote by wickedpam:

what kinda project (yes I'm being nosey)


Not quite sure yet...



Still in research and development stage.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 15:27:02
Seriously, Since when was bankruptcy such and awful option? IT doesn't mean the company will completly fail, will it? I don't really understand this.

Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 15:32:24
Bankruptcy isn't a bad thing. Or at least it wasn't until Congress changed the rules in 2005.



Our debt was wiped out; everything was set back to zero and we were given a "second chance." Paradoxically, that made it easier to get some credit (albeit at a higher interest rate) since we had no debt load and were a good credit risk.



Anyway....shouldn't a bankruptcy filing allow the company to continue to operate without the creditors nipping at their heels while they re-organize and consolidate debt and figure out a payment plan?



That's the way it's supposed to work, right?



Otherwise, if they don't file, the production line stops when they run out of money, the creditors seize all the assets and have a fire sale. (like when a store closes.)





Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 15:33:02
I would like to know why the bush's are getting enough Christmas money they can buy a house

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 15:35:50
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g37/Wicked_Pam/AddEmoticons0157.gif


Comment by Shane-O on 12/04/2008 15:45:41
Quote by Raine:

Seriously, Since when was bankruptcy such and awful option? IT doesn't mean the company will completly fail, will it? I don't really understand this.




There are REAL issues for the Big 3 going into Chapter 11 - much different than personal bankruptcy.



Particularly - it opens up "renegotiation" of ERISA protected funds (retirement, pensions, healthcare) and also collective bargaining agreements.



Those that are pushing for a re-org really are pushing for union-busting. And liquidation (shift from 11 to 7) is kinda likely.



I was SO against the $700 Billion bailout -- due to the language of the bill. But, depending on this bill, protecting companies (AND JOBS) that actually make THINGS seems a worthy federal expenditure.



My two cents....



Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 15:52:41
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Seriously, Since when was bankruptcy such and awful option? IT doesn't mean the company will completly fail, will it? I don't really understand this.




There are REAL issues for the Big 3 going into Chapter 11 - much different than personal bankruptcy.



Particularly - it opens up "renegotiation" of ERISA protected funds (retirement, pensions, healthcare) and also collective bargaining agreements.



Those that are pushing for a re-org really are pushing for union-busting. And liquidation (shift from 11 to 7) is kinda likely.



I was SO against the $700 Billion bailout -- due to the language of the bill. But, depending on this bill, protecting companies (AND JOBS) that actually make THINGS seems a worthy federal expenditure.



My two cents....



you see... that makes sense to me now. Thank you!



OK so bankruptcy is not really a good idea, I see this now.

Comment by Shane-O on 12/04/2008 15:55:41
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Seriously, Since when was bankruptcy such and awful option? IT doesn't mean the company will completly fail, will it? I don't really understand this.




There are REAL issues for the Big 3 going into Chapter 11 - much different than personal bankruptcy.



Particularly - it opens up "renegotiation" of ERISA protected funds (retirement, pensions, healthcare) and also collective bargaining agreements.



Those that are pushing for a re-org really are pushing for union-busting. And liquidation (shift from 11 to 7) is kinda likely.



I was SO against the $700 Billion bailout -- due to the language of the bill. But, depending on this bill, protecting companies (AND JOBS) that actually make THINGS seems a worthy federal expenditure.



My two cents....



you see... that makes sense to me now. Thank you!



OK so bankruptcy is not really a good idea, I see this now.


NO NO NO -- just listing some of my concerns. Many, many disagree with what I posted. Only another perspective.



Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 15:57:00
Good morning everyone.



Sleeping is getting in the way of my blogging.



Raine, what's the latest on the kittens?



Mala, you did get my blogger Joe e-mail?

Comment by Shane-O on 12/04/2008 15:59:11
And on the same subject - it was welcome (and not surprising) that the UAW publicly announced their willingness to make some MORE concessions. Without that, they just might cease to exist (in bankruptcy).

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 16:01:09
Yep got it! :D

Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 16:09:51
Anyone else having trouble with KPHX?

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 16:10:06
Kathy Najimy is too funny

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 16:10:30
Quote by livingonli:

Anyone else having trouble with KPHX?






it sputtered but its fine now

Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 16:13:57
Mala, where did your emoticon go? There's no peace thing next to your name.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 16:16:15
fixed it - thanks Liv, I'm must be still half asleep

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 16:16:16
Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 16:17:11
So when Bush leaves office, he is giving up the phony "ranch". I guess he's tired of clearing brush.

Comment by m-hadley on 12/04/2008 16:20:16
Heya Kids :coffee:

How's it going today? This here is Sasha Obama - wait, wait, don't hang up... I only want to know if your 'fridge is running - then you better go catch it punked!!! :P

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 16:22:14
mfaye, you are a delight.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 16:27:30
MGM!!!

Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 16:28:41
MGM!

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 16:32:58
Quote by m-hadley:

Heya Kids :coffee:

How's it going today? This here is Sasha Obama - wait, wait, don't hang up... I only want to know if your 'fridge is running - then you better go catch it punked!!! :P

Cheers,

mfaye
:spit:







Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 16:48:21
MGM FOR SENATE 2012! :D

Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/04/2008 16:49:49
Good morning, bloggers!!! Raine, an excellent post. Maybe the Daily News should have said Darth Cheney was the new owner and was going to call it the Vampire State Building.



Raine, another concern with bankruptcy for the Big 3 is getting a credit line. If they go through bankruptcy, there is a huge question if suppliers will be able to provide items that are needed to build autos.



We seem to be operating right now under the Chinese course, May you live in interesting times.



The early edition of the Daily Headlines are up.

Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 16:52:34
PUPPY!



http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/cuteaddiction/cutepuppy.jpg






Thought we needed one for a minute there.





Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 16:55:21
awwwwww

Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/04/2008 16:56:41
In some personal news, I had a major car repair but it is back from the shop. (Fuel pump, filter, water pump, and some other minor work.) I have a job interview tomorrow, after having one earlier this week.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 17:09:40
Gov. Gen Michaelle Jean has approved Prime Minister Harper's request to suspend the Canadian Parliament until the end of January.

Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 17:15:09
I hope Harper's poll numbers fall through the floor like Bush's have.



Raine, when are we getting a kitten update?

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 17:18:32
Quote by Raine:

Gov. Gen Michaelle Jean has approved Prime Minister Harper's request to suspend the Canadian Parliament until the end of January.






This is the first link I could find.

Comment by Random on 12/04/2008 17:19:09
Random is sleepy.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 17:29:31
Quote by livingonli:

So when Bush leaves office, he is giving up the phony "ranch". I guess he's tired of clearing brush.




I don't think he'll give up the ranch. As far as brush clearing, he will start hiring Mexican day laborers from in front of the Crawford Home Depot.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 17:30:24
Press release from the Inaugaral Committee:

In keeping with its pledge to make the inauguration of President-elect Barack Obama one of the most open and accessible in history, the Presidential Inaugural Committee (PIC) announced today that, for the first time, the entire length of the National Mall will be opened to the public so that more people than ever before will be able to witness the swearing-in of the President from a vantage point in sight of the Capitol.



The PIC has worked closely with officials from the District of Columbia government, the National Park Service, the Armed Forces Inaugural Committee (AFIC), and the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies (JCCIC) to make space at this historic location available to members of the public who are unable to obtain tickets to the swearing-in. Those who come to witness the swearing-in on the Mall will be able to watch and listen to the ceremony on large screens that will be provided by the PIC along the Mall.




Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 17:30:32
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Gov. Gen Michaelle Jean has approved Prime Minister Harper's request to suspend the Canadian Parliament until the end of January.






This is the first link I could find.








I'm not sure what the means, my foreign affairs knowledge is very weak.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 17:34:49
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Seriously, Since when was bankruptcy such and awful option? IT doesn't mean the company will completly fail, will it? I don't really understand this.




There are REAL issues for the Big 3 going into Chapter 11 - much different than personal bankruptcy.



Particularly - it opens up "renegotiation" of ERISA protected funds (retirement, pensions, healthcare) and also collective bargaining agreements.



Those that are pushing for a re-org really are pushing for union-busting. And liquidation (shift from 11 to 7) is kinda likely.



I was SO against the $700 Billion bailout -- due to the language of the bill. But, depending on this bill, protecting companies (AND JOBS) that actually make THINGS seems a worthy federal expenditure.



My two cents....





I've saying this to friends of mine. Anybody who has followed any of the recent airline shenanigans when United and Delta were in bankruptcy knows what the Big Three would do with their pension obligation etc. Thanks for posting Shane-O. YDM.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 17:36:10
So Harper now gets an extra 6-8 weeks to bust out the Rove playbook and paint Dion & Layton as separatists. Which is kinda funny since I hear Alberta (Harper's home province) has a bit of desire to become an independent republic itself.



Stephrah Harpalin anyone?

Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 17:41:29
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by livingonli:

So when Bush leaves office, he is giving up the phony "ranch". I guess he's tired of clearing brush.




I don't think he'll give up the ranch. As far as brush clearing, he will start hiring Mexican day laborers from in front of the Crawford Home Depot.


The report on AP Radio News on KPHX seem to state that with Chimpy and Pickles looking for a place in the Dallas area and are planning to move there when they leave office. It doesn't sound like they will keep the place in Crawford though.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/04/2008 17:41:39
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by livingonli:

So when Bush leaves office, he is giving up the phony "ranch". I guess he's tired of clearing brush.




I don't think he'll give up the ranch. As far as brush clearing, he will start hiring Mexican day laborers from in front of the Crawford Home Depot.




According to Laura they are using their Christmas money to buy a home in Texas.



Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 17:44:45
If I remember correctly, Chimpy didn't even pay for the Texas vacation home. His backers bought it for him so he could project that macho Reaganesque image.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 17:52:10
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by livingonli:

So when Bush leaves office, he is giving up the phony "ranch". I guess he's tired of clearing brush.




I don't think he'll give up the ranch. As far as brush clearing, he will start hiring Mexican day laborers from in front of the Crawford Home Depot.




According to Laura they are using their Christmas money to buy a home in Texas.

I heard that too.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/04/2008 18:00:27
I have some things to do, so I will try to swing back later. Be well.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 18:01:52
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by livingonli:

So when Bush leaves office, he is giving up the phony "ranch". I guess he's tired of clearing brush.




I don't think he'll give up the ranch. As far as brush clearing, he will start hiring Mexican day laborers from in front of the Crawford Home Depot.




According to Laura they are using their Christmas money to buy a home in Texas.

I heard that too.





I am not giving up on Bush be driven by the Secret Service to hire illegal day laborers at Home Depot.

Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 18:19:01
Quote by livingonli:

If I remember correctly, Chimpy didn't even pay for the Texas vacation home. His backers bought it for him so he could project that macho Reaganesque image.






That's too bad...of all the things Bush has done in his life, the only one that he's shown any talent for is clearing brush.



If I needed a chainsaw or a splitter...I might be inclined to listen to his opinion on that.



Everything else....not so much.





Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 18:24:30
Quote by livingonli:

If I remember correctly, Chimpy didn't even pay for the Texas vacation home. His backers bought it for him so he could project that macho Reaganesque image.






No, he bought that with some of his Ranger sale money.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 18:26:15
Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 18:29:18
Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 18:29:47
Now playing: Vaughn Monroe (feat. my grandpa playing 2nd Trumpet)

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 18:31:50
Quote by Scoopster:

:huh:



Harry Reid dedicates new DC visitors center by saying tourists stink.. LITERALLY.
I thought I heard that ...



My goodness... tacky much HArry?



When does the 111th senate get sworn in? I might show up wearing no doederant ...



Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 18:33:28
The new Congress should start January 4th meaning they have to deal with the last 16 days of Chimpy.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 18:47:42




What the hell did he say??

Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 19:00:54
Oh, he was just channeling a Revere dialect.



Do you have P.S.D.S.?



First correct answer wins blog points!





Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 19:18:25
Indiana Nat Guard members suing KBR.
Sixteen members of the Indiana National Guard have filed suit against Houston-based military contractor KBR, seeking unspecified damages for alleged exposure to a toxic chemical at an Iraqi water treatment plant in 2003.

In their suit filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Evansville, Ind., the plaintiffs contend KBR knowingly allowed them to be exposed to sodium dichromate, a chemical used as an anti-corrosive but containing the carcinogen hexavalent chromium. The alleged exposure occurred while the guardsmen were providing security for KBR workers at the Qarmat Ali water plant in southern Iraq.






Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 19:26:16
One word about Obama's short list for Secretary of Agriculture..



ICK.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 19:26:48
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 19:27:46
Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 19:30:09
Quote by Scoopster:

One word about Obama's short list for Secretary of Agriculture...



ICK.
Why ick?



I admit I don't know much about that department, but I am curious as why these are icky choices.



Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 19:32:48
Quote by Mondobubba:

Admit it, you want a Sarah Palin calendar for next year
well at least it's predrilled and made in the usa.



other than that...

:puke:



Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 19:35:32
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Admit it, you want a Sarah Palin calendar for next year
well at least it's predrilled and made in the usa.



other than that...

:puke:



But where's the swimsuit pictures?

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 19:38:48
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Admit it, you want a Sarah Palin calendar for next year
well at least it's predrilled and made in the usa.



other than that...

:puke:







There is something smutty there. Really smutty.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 19:44:54
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

One word about Obama's short list for Secretary of Agriculture..



ICK.
Why ick?



I admit I don't know much about that department, but I am curious as why these are icky choices.


Well..



Sebelius actually is OK. She hasn't publically said anything about this rGBH labelling thing going on in her state.. Then again, she will most likely go against it since almost everyone these days is for getting rid of growth hormones. That said, she has no real experience in agriculture matters other than being governor of a plains state.



Stenholm is a lobbyist for the Agriculture industry and was ranking member of the House Agriculture committee. He's in the pocket of ADM/Monsanto/ConAgra etc.. He's insulted organic farmers.



Wolff is a legacy dairy farmer and SecAg for Pennsylvania and he HEARTS Monsanto and has railed against rGBH labelling on foods, though Rendell was able to stop his efforts.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 19:47:37
wtf.. all my linky links are coming out gimpy-gimped today.





Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 19:56:16
Quote by Mondobubba:

Admit it, you want a Sarah Palin calendar for next year






Only if it comes with these...



http://www.americanstyledarts.com/images/dartSampler.jpg


Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:00:57
Quote by Scoopster:

One word about Obama's short list for Secretary of Agriculture..



ICK.
Why ick?



I admit I don't know much about that department, but I am curious as why these are icky choices.



Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:02:30
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Admit it, you want a Sarah Palin calendar for next year
well at least it's predrilled and made in the usa.



other than that...

:puke:







There is something smutty there. Really smutty.
It's only smutty if you add cellophane...



Oh.. wait!



Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 20:08:27
:lol: I'm not the only one having bloggie gas today I see!

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:13:22
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

One word about Obama's short list for Secretary of Agriculture..



ICK.
Why ick?



I admit I don't know much about that department, but I am curious as why these are icky choices.


Well..



Sebelius actually is OK. She hasn't publically said anything about this rGBH labelling thing going on in her state.. Then again, she will most likely go against it since almost everyone these days is for getting rid of growth hormones. That said, she has no real experience in agriculture matters other than being governor of a plains state.



Stenholm is a lobbyist for the Agriculture industry and was ranking member of the House Agriculture committee. He's in the pocket of ADM/Monsanto/ConAgra etc.. He's insulted organic farmers.



Wolff is a legacy dairy farmer and SecAg for Pennsylvania and he HEARTS Monsanto and has railed against rGBH labelling on foods, though Rendell was able to stop his efforts.
Ahhh. That makes sense. I didn't know about these things.



I just tried to get the name of someone my friend was REALLY hoping for... Maybe we can get that name bumped up (once I get the name) it was an awesome pick...



Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 20:13:28
Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:18:31
Salazaar is also on that short list, Scoop.



I am doing a little research on this... and it seems to me that it would not just be hormones, but also energy sources that the Agriculture post might have to deal with.



Interesting... my mind is opening to that cabinet post in ways that I had never dreamed.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:21:16
Quote by Scoopster:

(PDF FILE) Bank of America takes a seemingly big step to stop coal mining by mountaintop removal.



As much as I hate this company, I have to give them for this.
:clap:
Bank of America is particularly concerned about surface mining conducted through

mountain top removal in locations such as central Appalachia. We therefore will phase

out financing of companies whose predominant method of extracting coal is through

mountain top removal. While we acknowledge that surface mining is economically

efficient and creates jobs, it can be conducted in a way that minimizes environmental

impacts in certain geographies.


Now, THIS is something I can get behind. It is high time banks start investing in our environment instead of the practices that will tear it down.





Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:26:11
Low on Cash? There is an inaugural Ball for you.



Prepare to experience that damn dust... ;)

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:30:51
Low on Cash? There is an inaugural Ball for you.



Prepare to experience that damn dust... ;)

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 20:42:30
You dood it again Raine!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 20:49:21
Quote by Scoopster:

(PDF FILE) Bank of America takes a seemingly big step to stop coal mining by mountaintop removal.



As much as I hate this company, I have to give them for this.






Scoop, have you ever banked with BoA? Are they even a presence in New England? Or did you have some unfortunate issue with being anally raped by the entire board of directors the officers of the company and the senior executives?



What I'm saying is hate is awfully strong word. Especially for a company you have no dealings with.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:49:57
Quote by Raine:

I just tried to get the name of someone my friend was REALLY hoping for... Maybe we can get that name bumped up (once I get the name) it was an awesome pick...

Got it!





Michael Pollan



I am thinking it would be nice for PE Obama to pick someone NOT in politics for at least ONE cabinet position... Ag Sec would be a great choice. The man understands Agriculture and American eating habits.



And a LOT more.







Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:51:25
Quote by Scoopster:

You dood it again Raine!
Oh dear... I better go clean that mess up!







Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 20:53:56
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

I just tried to get the name of someone my friend was REALLY hoping for... Maybe we can get that name bumped up (once I get the name) it was an awesome pick...

Got it!





Michael Pollan



I am thinking it would be nice for PE Obama to pick someone NOT in politics for at least ONE cabinet position... Ag Sec would be a great choice. The man understands Agriculture and American eating habits.



And a LOT more.











He would be great! Does he have any executive experience?

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 20:54:17
Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 21:02:35
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

(PDF FILE) Bank of America takes a seemingly big step to stop coal mining by mountaintop removal.



As much as I hate this company, I have to give them for this.






Scoop, have you ever banked with BoA? Are they even a presence in New England? Or did you have some unfortunate issue with being anally raped by the entire board of directors the officers of the company and the senior executives?



What I'm saying is hate is awfully strong word. Especially for a company you have no dealings with.


No dealings? I was with Fleet when the merger went through! Needelss to say, that clusterfuck was the reason I switched my account over to Citizens Bank. They have a huge presence up this way b/c of Fleet; in fact they had to spin off Sovereign Bank as a result of that merger.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 21:02:59
Oh another thing about BoA reevaluating financing MTRM. A lot of banks have been taking a critical look at the environmental impact of the practices of potential customers. HSBC (where I used to work) has a very strong commitment to these lending practices. There was a thing on "Marketplace" on the public radio mosheen about this a while back.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 21:03:41
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

I just tried to get the name of someone my friend was REALLY hoping for... Maybe we can get that name bumped up (once I get the name) it was an awesome pick...

Got it!



Michael Pollan



I am thinking it would be nice for PE Obama to pick someone NOT in politics for at least ONE cabinet position... Ag Sec would be a great choice. The man understands Agriculture and American eating habits.



And a LOT more.


YES.. Excellent choice.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 21:10:25
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

(PDF FILE) Bank of America takes a seemingly big step to stop coal mining by mountaintop removal.



As much as I hate this company, I have to give them for this.






Scoop, have you ever banked with BoA? Are they even a presence in New England? Or did you have some unfortunate issue with being anally raped by the entire board of directors the officers of the company and the senior executives?



What I'm saying is hate is awfully strong word. Especially for a company you have no dealings with.


No dealings? I was with Fleet when the merger went through! Needelss to say, that clusterfuck was the reason I switched my account over to Citizens Bank. They have a huge presence up this way b/c of Fleet; in fact they had to spin off Sovereign Bank as a result of that merger.




Ahh thanks, I stand corrected. I thought that NE was one of the places they wern't. Still, I stand by hate as a rather strong word. The reason I'm thinking about switching banks has more to do with the size of BoA. They are a perfect example of Financiers Gone Wild. They have purchased in the past year the troubled mortgage company CountryWide, the troubled investment bank Merill Lynch. Who knows what troubled institution they will procure next.



I'm not a customer by choice, when I first moved here, the Missus and I opened an account with Barnett Bank. Barnett merged with Sovran then Sovran merged with BoA. Thankfully, I've had no issues in any of the mergers. As far as customer service issues, they have been very good. Especially when I asked about getting the Missus off the account earlier this year. I just hadn't gotten around to it.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 21:13:47
Off to class. With any luck the classroom thermostat will not be on "meatlocker." SQL programing and freezing temps do not mix well.

Comment by TriSec on 12/04/2008 21:20:03
Bank of America swallowed the oldest bank in the US some years ago. BankBoston..founded 1789.



All gone, red Bank of America logos everywhere now.





Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 21:33:05
LIPA wants to jack rates 17%. I may have to seriously consider leaving Long Island.

Comment by livingonli on 12/04/2008 22:16:16
I'm heading off to a night of dinner with friends.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 22:21:18
Quote by livingonli:

I'm heading off to a night of dinner with friends.


Have Fun Liv!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 22:28:31
The thermostat is sent on coolish, not meatlocker. :metal:

Comment by MMB on 12/04/2008 23:06:58
I first started banking when BOA was Barnett many years ago. I aucually think they have great customer service about a year ago i had to change my life ins. beneficiary from my X fiance and i had just changed it but they were very proffessional.

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 23:11:23
For those not listening to WPHX it is changing to KNUV 1190 as of January 1.



-- I don't think it should be a problem for streaming. I have noticed over the past few weeks that sometimes the call letters have been WKNUV and have been wondering why. Now I know.



The signal is stronger according to Mike Newcolm... That is good news for the people in Pheonix.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/04/2008 23:15:59
Quote by Mondobubba:

The thermostat is sent on coolish, not meatlocker. :metal:


You in a plenum room there?

Comment by Raine on 12/04/2008 23:18:04
For those not listening to WPHX it is changing to KNUV 1190 as of January 1.



-- I don't think it should be a problem for streaming. I have noticed over the past few weeks that sometimes the call letters have been WKNUV and have been wondering why. Now I know.



The signal is stronger according to Mike Newcolm... That is good news for the people in Pheonix.

Comment by Random on 12/04/2008 23:37:44
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/04/2008 23:55:14
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

The thermostat is sent on coolish, not meatlocker. :metal:


You in a plenum room there?




Umm no. It is a room in building in suburban office park.

Comment by Random on 12/05/2008 01:28:16
....Hello....lo....lo...lo

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/05/2008 01:48:26
ECHO.....ECHO.....echo....echo

Comment by TriSec on 12/05/2008 01:58:38
Christmas Music!









Comment by Raine on 12/05/2008 02:39:21
Oh Tri! I do believe that is the official 4F Christmas song!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/05/2008 02:51:42
Quote by TriSec:

Christmas Music!













:rofl: Oh excuse me.

Comment by Raine on 12/05/2008 03:16:18
Amazing footage of a dog rescuing a road injured dog.



I have had people tell me that animals don't have feeling or compassion or love like humans.... This video proves them all wrong.

Comment by Raine on 12/05/2008 03:57:15
Comment by livingonli on 12/05/2008 04:51:38
And now I'm home. Everyone have fun tonight? :)

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