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Grand Obstruction Party
Author: Raine
Date: 12/11/2008 13:33:55
Never mind that the economy is in shambles, our climate is in distress, we have huge national security issues, Detroit in ready to implode, Gitmo is still open, we still torture, the government is listening to our phone calls, most of the constitution has been trashed... the list can go on. Never mind all of that. This is what the GOP is concerned about. It's time for them to look to the future by looking back at the past with its classic obstructionist ways: Ah-- the Marc Rich Pardon. Not for nothing, but it wasn't Holder who gave the pardon, nor was he the Attorney General at the time. He was the Deputy AG, and while the entire situation was never something I was pleased with, it was fully within the Power of the President to pardon Rich. I expressed my opinion on Article II, Section 2 the other day.
Patrick Leahy, quickly and rightfully so, responded with a letter to the honorable Senator Specter. It's rather long, so I won't post it here, but it is good. Leahy also posted a backgrounder to the history of nominated Attorney Generals. In particular: I would like to remind Arlen, about Alberto "Torture Memo" Gonzales. How about Mike "not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime" Mukasey? Do I need to tell you about Samuel Alito or John Roberts on the Supreme Court? There were countless number of recess appointments and just plain awful awful picks from the last 8 years, such as Michael "Heck-of-a Job" Brownie. The Marc Rich pardon pales in comparison to the deeds and actions of these people. Most Americans have no idea of who he is.
It could be that the GOP is gearing up to *clinton* the Obama administration. Of that I have little doubt. Hopefully the Democrats will take a cue from Senator Leahy and fight back right from the start because we need to have an administration that is ready to go the day after Barack Obama is sworn in as the 44th President of the United States. There is far too much work that must be done to get this country back on track, and this particular brand of partisan bickering from people like Arlen Specter is a perfect example of how we as a nation got to where we are.
The GOP has talked of trying to rebuild its party, but if they are going to do it by gridlocking the President-elect's selections, I think they will find that most of America will run further away from them and whatever it is they stand for. America is craving a government that works, rather than divide. The GOP has a chance to show that they are grown ups with the 111th Congress. Maybe Arlen Specter can start now by not getting in the way.
:peace: and
Raine
Sen. Arlen Specter, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, has just thrown a wrench into the Eric Holder hearings planned for early January, saying Holder's involvement in the Marc Rich pardon is a "red flag" and a "very serious matter."
Judiciary Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) has been pushing for an early January hearing so that Holder could quickly be confirmed at Barack Obama's attorney general and be in his office by the Jan. 20 inauguration.
But Specter is already applying the brakes, indicating that Republicans are going to make a big deal out of Holder at the hearing. Specter said he sees no way in which the Holder hearings could happen before Jan. 26. Specter said he still needs to see thousands of pages of background documents and Holder's FBI background check.
Patrick Leahy, quickly and rightfully so, responded with a letter to the honorable Senator Specter. It's rather long, so I won't post it here, but it is good. Leahy also posted a backgrounder to the history of nominated Attorney Generals. In particular:
“It is my hope that the Judiciary Committee and the Senate will move promptly on the confirmation proceedings as to Judge Michael Mukasey…We need some time to study the man's record before you go to hearings. But we also need to move with deliberate speed.” Ranking Member Arlen Specter, September 17, 2007
It could be that the GOP is gearing up to *clinton* the Obama administration. Of that I have little doubt. Hopefully the Democrats will take a cue from Senator Leahy and fight back right from the start because we need to have an administration that is ready to go the day after Barack Obama is sworn in as the 44th President of the United States. There is far too much work that must be done to get this country back on track, and this particular brand of partisan bickering from people like Arlen Specter is a perfect example of how we as a nation got to where we are.
The GOP has talked of trying to rebuild its party, but if they are going to do it by gridlocking the President-elect's selections, I think they will find that most of America will run further away from them and whatever it is they stand for. America is craving a government that works, rather than divide. The GOP has a chance to show that they are grown ups with the 111th Congress. Maybe Arlen Specter can start now by not getting in the way.
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 14:07:48
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 14:07:48
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:23:04
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:23:04
G'morn y'all!
:hug:
:hug:
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:23:51
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:23:51
I know we have a drought and all, but I am kinda over the rain. It's been 3 days...
Comment by 
Random on 12/11/2008 14:25:26
Random on 12/11/2008 14:25:26
Hello random people.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:28:33
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:28:33
Sounds like the Mice ate thru the wires today!
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:28:56
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:28:56
Good Morning Random! how are you doing today?
Comment by 
m-hadley on 12/11/2008 14:30:39
m-hadley on 12/11/2008 14:30:39
Mornin' Everybody (Random, Raine, Mala and others :P)
:hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
TriSec on 12/11/2008 14:32:12
TriSec on 12/11/2008 14:32:12
TriSec sez: 
Just because I'm not in the mood to be merry yet.
Bah.
Humbug.
Just because I'm not in the mood to be merry yet.
Bah.
Humbug.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 12/11/2008 14:36:27
Scoopster on 12/11/2008 14:36:27
Morning all. 
commute problems today abound!
If you didn't see it I had a bit of an angry rant early this morning on yesterday's blog. I'll toss a repost in the 4F forums.
commute problems today abound!If you didn't see it I had a bit of an angry rant early this morning on yesterday's blog. I'll toss a repost in the 4F forums.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:36:37
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:36:37
:yadda: to the caller. Please...
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:36:57
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:36:57
{shutup}
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:38:06
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:38:06
I'm not saying ... but yet, caller is saying... PUHLEESE!!!!
Obama does not have to answer for one damn thing regarding Blago!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama does not have to answer for one damn thing regarding Blago!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 14:38:47
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 14:38:47
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:42:31
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:42:31
wingers coming out of the woodwork like crazy today.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 14:43:40
Raine on 12/11/2008 14:43:40
Once, I talked to a person who later went to jail. That must make me connected to every prisoner in the NYS department of justice.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 14:45:53
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 14:45:53
its the whole guilt by association thing all again...
Comment by Scoopster on 12/11/2008 14:49:53
Scoopster on 12/11/2008 14:49:53
Here we are.. I can't believe this idiot actually said something like this.
If you have a chance, and a strong stomach, jump on that NPR link I have in there and listen to the entire interview.
If you have a chance, and a strong stomach, jump on that NPR link I have in there and listen to the entire interview.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 15:02:00
Amazing. It seems like a pattern with this asses.
Raine on 12/11/2008 15:02:00
Quote by Scoopster:
Here we are.. I can't believe this idiot actually said something like this.
If you have a chance, and a strong stomach, jump on that NPR link I have in there and listen to the entire interview.
Amazing. It seems like a pattern with this asses.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 15:10:05
Raine on 12/11/2008 15:10:05
:kickcan: I am so damn bummed that the party is on Sunday night. Once again, I will not have a chance to meet momma and the mooks!
Comment by 
BobR on 12/11/2008 15:11:58
BobR on 12/11/2008 15:11:58
morning folks... :coffee:
Comment by BobR on 12/11/2008 15:14:46
barnacles?... did he mean "albatross"?
asshat.
BobR on 12/11/2008 15:14:46
Quote by Scoopster:
Here we are.. I can't believe this idiot actually said something like this.
If you have a chance, and a strong stomach, jump on that NPR link I have in there and listen to the entire interview.
barnacles?... did he mean "albatross"?
asshat.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:15:22
Yeah 6-9 is not a good time for me either - I was psyched to go when I heard it was 4-6
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:15:22
Quote by Raine:
:kickcan: I am so damn bummed that the party is on Sunday night. Once again, I will not have a chance to meet momma and the mooks!
Yeah 6-9 is not a good time for me either - I was psyched to go when I heard it was 4-6
Comment by Random on 12/11/2008 15:15:32
better...
Random on 12/11/2008 15:15:32
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning Random! how are you doing today?
better...
Comment by Random on 12/11/2008 15:17:27
I actually responded to your post yesterday (this morning...whatever) scoop.
Random on 12/11/2008 15:17:27
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Here we are.. I can't believe this idiot actually said something like this.
If you have a chance, and a strong stomach, jump on that NPR link I have in there and listen to the entire interview.
barnacles?... did he mean "albatross"?
asshat.
I actually responded to your post yesterday (this morning...whatever) scoop.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 15:32:53
Raine on 12/11/2008 15:32:53
I can't believe this... a dark horse --for sure--- has taken the lead...
As the Obama transition team is filling out the rest of the President-elect's cabinet, one name that pops to the surface is Rep. Sanford Bishop.
The Georgia Democrat is believed to be in the running for Agriculture Secretary, and his staff readily admits that he wants the post -- though they say that no deal is "officially" in the works.
"The congressman would very much like to have the position if it is in fact offered," said Bishop's chief of staff Phyllis Hallmon. "But we have had no official interaction with the President-elect's staff."
Bishop's name has been floated in numerous agriculture publications, as well as (mostly local) press. The resume seems, generally, right. He was co-chairman of Obama's Georgia campaign and has served on the House agricultural subcommittee since 2006. He represents one of the largest agricultural districts in the nation and is considered a "go-to lawmaker for Southern farmers."
A blue dog Democrat, Bishop is also regarded as the most conservative African-American Democrat in Congress. He has long championed federal subsidies and price boosters for peanuts (understandably -- they're his home state's biggest product). There are various controversies in his past, including a bizarre bathroom incident on an airline flight in 2002, but nothing seemingly debilitating to his chances.
As the Obama transition team is filling out the rest of the President-elect's cabinet, one name that pops to the surface is Rep. Sanford Bishop.
The Georgia Democrat is believed to be in the running for Agriculture Secretary, and his staff readily admits that he wants the post -- though they say that no deal is "officially" in the works.
"The congressman would very much like to have the position if it is in fact offered," said Bishop's chief of staff Phyllis Hallmon. "But we have had no official interaction with the President-elect's staff."
Bishop's name has been floated in numerous agriculture publications, as well as (mostly local) press. The resume seems, generally, right. He was co-chairman of Obama's Georgia campaign and has served on the House agricultural subcommittee since 2006. He represents one of the largest agricultural districts in the nation and is considered a "go-to lawmaker for Southern farmers."
A blue dog Democrat, Bishop is also regarded as the most conservative African-American Democrat in Congress. He has long championed federal subsidies and price boosters for peanuts (understandably -- they're his home state's biggest product). There are various controversies in his past, including a bizarre bathroom incident on an airline flight in 2002, but nothing seemingly debilitating to his chances.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 15:33:30
That is good to hear.
:)
Raine on 12/11/2008 15:33:30
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Good Morning Random! how are you doing today?
better...
That is good to hear.
:)
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:38:21
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:38:21
the Chicago way? Is all Sean learned about Chicago come from The Untouchables?
Comment by Scoopster on 12/11/2008 15:50:44
I did see that actually.. I agree with you in regards to teacher merit pay, and partly on modernization. Sure jobs are going to be lost due to technology. But I disagree with the idea that organized labor has not made efforts to modernize the movement. In particular, the NEA & UAW has bent over backwards to concede wage and pension increases, and have taken on some financial responsibility on paying health care premiums. (Note - the NEA in Rhode Island is a HUGE pain in the ass and usually concedes nothing without being forced into arbitration.. I'll admit that much)
As far as corruption in unions goes, it exists. Just like corruption in public office and corporate boardrooms exists. Greed is an unfortunate human condition and can strike us all when in any position of power. In fact corruption in labor is probably more amplified, since it's usually both more heinous and the corporate bosses don't mind spreading the word around in the media.
Scoopster on 12/11/2008 15:50:44
Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Here we are.. I can't believe this idiot actually said something like this.
If you have a chance, and a strong stomach, jump on that NPR link I have in there and listen to the entire interview.
barnacles?... did he mean "albatross"?
asshat.
I actually responded to your post yesterday (this morning...whatever) scoop.
I did see that actually.. I agree with you in regards to teacher merit pay, and partly on modernization. Sure jobs are going to be lost due to technology. But I disagree with the idea that organized labor has not made efforts to modernize the movement. In particular, the NEA & UAW has bent over backwards to concede wage and pension increases, and have taken on some financial responsibility on paying health care premiums. (Note - the NEA in Rhode Island is a HUGE pain in the ass and usually concedes nothing without being forced into arbitration.. I'll admit that much)
As far as corruption in unions goes, it exists. Just like corruption in public office and corporate boardrooms exists. Greed is an unfortunate human condition and can strike us all when in any position of power. In fact corruption in labor is probably more amplified, since it's usually both more heinous and the corporate bosses don't mind spreading the word around in the media.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:57:33
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:57:33
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 15:57:41
Raine on 12/11/2008 15:57:41
:rolleyes2: winger caller alert!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:57:52
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:57:52
wtf people. 
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 15:58:21
Raine on 12/11/2008 15:58:21
Good leave the country MoFo. Go on... leave. You racist pig.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:59:56
that wasn't even a winger, that guy was a downright racist.
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 15:59:56
Quote by Raine:
:rolleyes2: winger caller alert!!!
that wasn't even a winger, that guy was a downright racist.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:08:00
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:08:00
I thought we already did that :scratchhead:
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:11:40
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:11:40
interesting
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 16:13:15
I would like it if the SMS would hire bobber! :P
Raine on 12/11/2008 16:13:15
Quote by wickedpam:
I thought we already did that :scratchhead:
I would like it if the SMS would hire bobber! :P
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:17:16
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:17:16
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:18:20
Ya never know if ya don't poke the producer with a pointy stick :p
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:18:20
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
I thought we already did that :scratchhead:
I would like it if the SMS would hire bobber! :P
Ya never know if ya don't poke the producer with a pointy stick :p
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:18:47
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:18:47
Leno = vapid entertainment 
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 16:19:41
I think that one is gonna bomb.
Raine on 12/11/2008 16:19:41
Quote by wickedpam:
Leno = vapid entertainment
I think that one is gonna bomb.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 16:20:32
True Dat.
Raine on 12/11/2008 16:20:32
Quote by wickedpam:
Ya never know if ya don't poke the producer with a pointy stick :p
True Dat.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 16:22:20
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 16:22:20
Morning all. Don't mind me, I just came by to raid the blog supply closet. I need to restock the Study Bunker. :rummages through closets for toilet paper, sniffs milk in blog kitchen etc:
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 16:23:16
Raine on 12/11/2008 16:23:16
Comment by Scoopster on 12/11/2008 16:25:11
I'm not sure what to think of this yet.. I'm kinda hoping Leno takes more serious and topical material into this new gig.
And Leno's best joke ever was the other day on Countdown when he said writing jokes is hard. Give me a f'kin break he's been buying jokes for years.
Scoopster on 12/11/2008 16:25:11
Quote by wickedpam:
Leno = vapid entertainment
I'm not sure what to think of this yet.. I'm kinda hoping Leno takes more serious and topical material into this new gig.
And Leno's best joke ever was the other day on Countdown when he said writing jokes is hard. Give me a f'kin break he's been buying jokes for years.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:25:44
I would love for it to bomb but I think it's gonna get good ratings, enough to the point that the 10pm is going to lose anything creative for entertainment
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:25:44
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Leno = vapid entertainment
I think that one is gonna bomb.
I would love for it to bomb but I think it's gonna get good ratings, enough to the point that the 10pm is going to lose anything creative for entertainment
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 16:30:31
Raine on 12/11/2008 16:30:31
She's bAAAaaack... (and a mighty quick healer too!)
Ann Coulter: "Hallelujah" Print is Dead!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:39:12
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 16:39:12
Yes Chris it does get cold here - we spend a number of days below 30 every year. I'll give ya that no one here can drive when someone spits on the street though
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 17:06:20
Ann there is a difference between TV stations and TV networks. Stations are the local downlink for the the network. Got it? So when you say there are three TV station, we know you mean networks, but the syphilis is rotting your brain.
On a side note here is my Ann Coulter lecture day dream during Q&A
Me: Mister Coulter I have a two-part question. How do you hide your junk? Do you just tuck it? Or like Divine do you actually wear a cheater. You know a fake vagina.
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 17:06:20
Quote by Raine:
She's bAAAaaack... (and a mighty quick healer too!)Ann Coulter: "Hallelujah" Print is Dead!
Ann there is a difference between TV stations and TV networks. Stations are the local downlink for the the network. Got it? So when you say there are three TV station, we know you mean networks, but the syphilis is rotting your brain.
On a side note here is my Ann Coulter lecture day dream during Q&A
Me: Mister Coulter I have a two-part question. How do you hide your junk? Do you just tuck it? Or like Divine do you actually wear a cheater. You know a fake vagina.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:09:02
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:09:02
:rofl:
well done herr mondo.
well done herr mondo.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:10:46
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:10:46
Susan Powter annoys the hell out of me.
Comment by 
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:13:27
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:13:27
Why Thom why? Why Susan Powter?
Comment by starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:14:02
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:14:02
Could you imagine get cornered by Susan Powter at a cocktail party? :thud:
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:16:03
I would eat chopped live in her face!!!
Sorry, that was wrong. I know...
this woman just makes my eardrums bleed!!!
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:16:03
Quote by starling310:
Could you imagine get cornered by Susan Powter at a cocktail party? :thud:
I would eat chopped live in her face!!!
Sorry, that was wrong. I know...
this woman just makes my eardrums bleed!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 17:16:22
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 17:16:22
annoying yes but she does make some sense
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:17:01
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:17:01
:rofl: She said Shit!!!
Comment by starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:18:00
She just said Oxygen is essential and yet she doesn't SHUT UP for a second to breathe! thereisacureFOROBESITYILOST130poundsandnever
gainedbackandhereswhybecauseilearnedtoMOVEandtoeatWHOLEfoods. . .
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:18:00
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310:
Could you imagine get cornered by Susan Powter at a cocktail party? :thud:
I would eat chopped live in her face!!!
Sorry, that was wrong. I know...
this woman just makes my eardrums bleed!!!
She just said Oxygen is essential and yet she doesn't SHUT UP for a second to breathe! thereisacureFOROBESITYILOST130poundsandnever
gainedbackandhereswhybecauseilearnedtoMOVEandtoeatWHOLEfoods. . .
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:18:01
Totally.
I know what she is saying... but DAYM!!! chillax Susie! Chillax!
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:18:01
Quote by wickedpam:
annoying yes but she does make some sense
Totally.
I know what she is saying... but DAYM!!! chillax Susie! Chillax!
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:19:35
OMG... you know cocain helps solve obesity too... and she sounds like she snorted a line or 2. :D
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:19:35
Quote by starling310:
She just said Oxygen is essential and yet she doesn't SHUT UP for a second to breathe! thereisacureFOROBESITYILOST130poundsandnevergainedbackandhereswhybecauseilearnedtoMOVEandtoeatWHOLEfoods. . .
OMG... you know cocain helps solve obesity too... and she sounds like she snorted a line or 2. :D
Comment by starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:22:14
She does make sense, but presentation is half of your message, ja know?
Best piece of food advice that i ever heard ( and it was delievered in a calm manner ) avoid the aisles at the grocery store. Simple. Unless, you SPECIFICALLY need something, shop the perimeter. WHat's on the perimeter? Veggies, Fruit, Proteins, yada, yada. . . there ya go.
I DO have to go in the aisles cuz I'm a veggie and need beans.
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:22:14
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
annoying yes but she does make some sense
Totally.
I know what she is saying... but DAYM!!! chillax Susie! Chillax!
She does make sense, but presentation is half of your message, ja know?
Best piece of food advice that i ever heard ( and it was delievered in a calm manner ) avoid the aisles at the grocery store. Simple. Unless, you SPECIFICALLY need something, shop the perimeter. WHat's on the perimeter? Veggies, Fruit, Proteins, yada, yada. . . there ya go.
I DO have to go in the aisles cuz I'm a veggie and need beans.
Comment by starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:23:59
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:23:59
Think my run on sentence messed up bloggie. Someone fix that wudja!
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 17:25:19
I forgot something!
Couter: (Drop jawed silence) Sec... security!
(I am forcibly removed from the room my four beefy bouncer types)
Me: Ann who have you infected with syphilis lately? When are you going to come clear about being a shemale! A chick with dick!
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 17:25:19
Quote by Raine:
:rofl:
well done herr mondo.
I forgot something!
Couter: (Drop jawed silence) Sec... security!
(I am forcibly removed from the room my four beefy bouncer types)
Me: Ann who have you infected with syphilis lately? When are you going to come clear about being a shemale! A chick with dick!
Comment by starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:25:40
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:25:40
Oi. . . a friend of mine has to sing a Funeral on Saturday for an 11 year old. He died in his sleep.
Comment by Scoopster on 12/11/2008 17:27:58
Rice is in the aisles too.. but that's once in a while you just buy the 25lb bag, drop it in a holiday popcorn tin and it'll keep for however long it takes to use.
Scoopster on 12/11/2008 17:27:58
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
annoying yes but she does make some sense
Totally.
I know what she is saying... but DAYM!!! chillax Susie! Chillax!
She does make sense, but presentation is half of your message, ja know?
Best piece of food advice that i ever heard ( and it was delievered in a calm manner ) avoid the aisles at the grocery store. Simple. Unless, you SPECIFICALLY need something, shop the perimeter. WHat's on the perimeter? Veggies, Fruit, Proteins, yada, yada. . . there ya go.
I DO have to go in the aisles cuz I'm a veggie and need beans.
Rice is in the aisles too.. but that's once in a while you just buy the 25lb bag, drop it in a holiday popcorn tin and it'll keep for however long it takes to use.
Comment by starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:31:55
Exactly. It was a general rule to avoid buying Pop Tarts, Cookies, Chips, Canned vegetables high in sugar and sodium, soda, etc, etc, etc. . .
starling310 on 12/11/2008 17:31:55
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
annoying yes but she does make some sense
Totally.
I know what she is saying... but DAYM!!! chillax Susie! Chillax!
She does make sense, but presentation is half of your message, ja know?
Best piece of food advice that i ever heard ( and it was delievered in a calm manner ) avoid the aisles at the grocery store. Simple. Unless, you SPECIFICALLY need something, shop the perimeter. WHat's on the perimeter? Veggies, Fruit, Proteins, yada, yada. . . there ya go.
I DO have to go in the aisles cuz I'm a veggie and need beans.
Rice is in the aisles too.. but that's once in a while you just buy the 25lb bag, drop it in a holiday popcorn tin and it'll keep for however long it takes to use.
Exactly. It was a general rule to avoid buying Pop Tarts, Cookies, Chips, Canned vegetables high in sugar and sodium, soda, etc, etc, etc. . .
Comment by 
livingonli on 12/11/2008 17:34:02
livingonli on 12/11/2008 17:34:02
Hi everyone.
I guess I have a good indication how tired I was from lack of sleep the night before since I slept until almost noon today.
I guess I have a good indication how tired I was from lack of sleep the night before since I slept until almost noon today.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:39:02
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:39:02
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 17:44:06
bold face mine.
Raine on 12/11/2008 17:44:06
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
:rofl:
well done herr mondo.
I forgot something!
Couter: (Drop jawed silence) Sec... security!
(I am forcibly removed from the room my four beefy bouncer types)
Me: Ann who have you infected with syphilis lately? When are you going to come clear about being a shemale! A chick with dick!
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 17:52:56
TriSec on 12/11/2008 17:52:56
Passing through...
(staying on the ground today, the weather sucks too bad to make minimums)
(staying on the ground today, the weather sucks too bad to make minimums)
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 17:58:05
People back off my steak, I get it so rarely.
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 17:58:05
People back off my steak, I get it so rarely.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 17:59:14
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 17:59:14
It's also more expensive.
Comment by livingonli on 12/11/2008 18:01:20
livingonli on 12/11/2008 18:01:20
So no one noticed how late I slept today. 
Harrumph! I will be on the fainting couch.
Harrumph! I will be on the fainting couch.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 18:12:33
Raine on 12/11/2008 18:12:33
Liv... Do I need to pull this out?
Comment by livingonli on 12/11/2008 18:13:01
livingonli on 12/11/2008 18:13:01
They are still rioting in Greece.
Comment by Scoopster on 12/11/2008 18:20:00
Scoopster on 12/11/2008 18:20:00
Teacher throws a fit over a student giving out copies of (FREE) Linux in class.
Technotwits with teaching certs annoy me.
Technotwits with teaching certs annoy me.
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 18:20:35
TriSec on 12/11/2008 18:20:35
The hazards of working retail during Christmas:
I was just going to dial up some Xmas music, but decided not to because I'm at the store tonight. By the time I get out of there, I'm not going to care if you saw mommy kissing Santa Claus, just shut up about it already!
I was just going to dial up some Xmas music, but decided not to because I'm at the store tonight. By the time I get out of there, I'm not going to care if you saw mommy kissing Santa Claus, just shut up about it already!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/11/2008 18:24:11
wickedpam on 12/11/2008 18:24:11
Darling, it's hard to work up sympathy when I'm trying to keep from falling asleep at my desk :hug:
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 18:49:59
TriSec on 12/11/2008 18:49:59
You think herding cats is hard?
Ha!
Try organizing a holiday potluck luncheon....there's chaos for ya.
Ha!
Try organizing a holiday potluck luncheon....there's chaos for ya.
Comment by livingonli on 12/11/2008 19:04:44
At least I shouldn't do that at work tonight. (I hope)
livingonli on 12/11/2008 19:04:44
Quote by wickedpam:
Darling, it's hard to work up sympathy when I'm trying to keep from falling asleep at my desk :hug:
At least I shouldn't do that at work tonight. (I hope)
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 19:06:10
TriSec on 12/11/2008 19:06:10
Now Playing:
That's my grandpa sitting to the right of the trumpet solo. (glasses)
That's my grandpa sitting to the right of the trumpet solo. (glasses)
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 19:30:39
What a freaking dumbass.
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 19:30:39
Quote by Scoopster:
Teacher throws a fit over a student giving out copies of (FREE) Linux in class.
What a freaking dumbass.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 19:38:14
That is the definition of herding cats. Does everyone want bring the paper plates?
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 19:38:14
Quote by TriSec:
You think herding cats is hard?
Ha!
Try organizing a holiday potluck luncheon....there's chaos for ya.
That is the definition of herding cats. Does everyone want bring the paper plates?
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 19:42:03
Wow... Let me play with that a bit...
idjit. This is a world were all OS' can get along in the spirit of love and harmony.
Raine on 12/11/2008 19:42:03
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Teacher throws a fit over a student giving out copies of (FREE) Linux in class.
What a freaking dumbass.
This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer, and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all.
Wow... Let me play with that a bit...
This is a world where Christianity rules, and putting on a carnival show for another religion is not helping these children at all.
idjit. This is a world were all OS' can get along in the spirit of love and harmony.
Comment by livingonli on 12/11/2008 19:42:30
livingonli on 12/11/2008 19:42:30
And now it's time to go head off to the salt mine.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 20:02:37
Raine on 12/11/2008 20:02:37
Santa Claus will take you to hell.
YEah. that is a real story... :rolleyes:
A Kansas-based church that has blamed deaths in Iraq on U.S. tolerance of homosexuality has asked Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire's office to approve a "Santa Claus will take you to Hell" message to display among other religious statements in the state capitol's third-floor hallway.
The Westboro Baptist Church's message would be near a Nativity set, three signs mocking atheism, and an atheist sign that celebrates the winter solstice, while also taking a shot at religion as "myth and superstition" that enslaves minds, all in the state Capitol's third-floor hallway.
YEah. that is a real story... :rolleyes:
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 20:06:44
btw... Westboro is taking on the Church of the flying spaghetti Monster!!! My bets are that Santa will take WB to hell. :rofl:
Raine on 12/11/2008 20:06:44
Quote by Raine:
Santa Claus will take you to hell.A Kansas-based church that has blamed deaths in Iraq on U.S. tolerance of homosexuality has asked Washington Gov. Chris Gregoire's office to approve a "Santa Claus will take you to Hell" message to display among other religious statements in the state capitol's third-floor hallway.
The Westboro Baptist Church's message would be near a Nativity set, three signs mocking atheism, and an atheist sign that celebrates the winter solstice, while also taking a shot at religion as "myth and superstition" that enslaves minds, all in the state Capitol's third-floor hallway.
YEah. that is a real story... :rolleyes:
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 20:14:08
TriSec on 12/11/2008 20:14:08
Santa Claus can take me wherever he wants, as long as he brings me a Wii and a GPS.
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 20:17:45
TriSec on 12/11/2008 20:17:45
"You'd better watch out, get ready to cry, You'd better go hide, I'm telling you why 'cuz Santa Claus will take you to hell. He is your favorite idol, you worship at his feet, but when you stand before your God He won't help you take the heat. So get this fact straight: you're feeling God's hate, Santa's to blame for the economy's fate, Santa Claus will take you to hell."
oh. my. God.
oh. my. God.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 20:26:03
:clap:
:rofl: MY sides hurt!!!
Raine on 12/11/2008 20:26:03
Quote by TriSec:
"You'd better watch out, get ready to cry, You'd better go hide, I'm telling you why 'cuz Santa Claus will take you to hell. He is your favorite idol, you worship at his feet, but when you stand before your God He won't help you take the heat. So get this fact straight: you're feeling God's hate, Santa's to blame for the economy's fate, Santa Claus will take you to hell."
oh. my. God.
:rofl: MY sides hurt!!!
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 20:26:54
Raine on 12/11/2008 20:26:54
Tri, I think I am gonna try to get Bobber tonite to let me sing that and record it.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 20:30:41
You, a GPS? Really? There are generations of Scouts spinning it their graves over that Tri. What about a map and compass? Orienteering is becoming a lost art. :wipes froth and spittle from mouth:
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 20:30:41
Quote by TriSec:
Santa Claus can take me wherever he wants, as long as he brings me a Wii and a GPS.
You, a GPS? Really? There are generations of Scouts spinning it their graves over that Tri. What about a map and compass? Orienteering is becoming a lost art. :wipes froth and spittle from mouth:
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 20:35:04
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 20:35:04
Why isn't Fred Phelps in The Dickipedia? I men he is huge self-aggrandizing, swaggering dick of the first order.
On another topic, should I go over to the newly opened Whole Foods and buy a chicken breast for like, twenty-five dollars?
On another topic, should I go over to the newly opened Whole Foods and buy a chicken breast for like, twenty-five dollars?
Comment by m-hadley on 12/11/2008 20:48:01
m-hadley on 12/11/2008 20:48:01
Heya Raine, Mondo, BobR, Mala, & any other 4Fers who are heading to DC for the Inauguration,
Did you all notice that Momma's gig is Sunday night (and $75.00 for a chance to actually meet her :P). We are going to have to drive like the wind to make it to DC by 4:00 Sunday afternoon. When is everybody else arriving in DC? We also have tickets to the American Indian Inaugural Ball (Tuesday night/$110/each). I'm just wondering. Have I mentioned that my girlfriend is scared in crowds? I'm wondering if this is such a great idea... Just thinking outloud now.
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Did you all notice that Momma's gig is Sunday night (and $75.00 for a chance to actually meet her :P). We are going to have to drive like the wind to make it to DC by 4:00 Sunday afternoon. When is everybody else arriving in DC? We also have tickets to the American Indian Inaugural Ball (Tuesday night/$110/each). I'm just wondering. Have I mentioned that my girlfriend is scared in crowds? I'm wondering if this is such a great idea... Just thinking outloud now.
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 20:48:28
You wound me, sir. My father was once merit badge counselor for the Orienteering merit badge. I still own 3 compasses and the sectional charts for most of Eastern MA (as well as the ocean charts from my seafaring days).
GPS is great for roads with a base map, but most of them don't work worth a damn under a forest canopy. Compasses still do.
TriSec on 12/11/2008 20:48:28
Quote by Mondobubba:
You, a GPS? Really? There are generations of Scouts spinning it their graves over that Tri. What about a map and compass? Orienteering is becoming a lost art. :wipes froth and spittle from mouth:
You wound me, sir. My father was once merit badge counselor for the Orienteering merit badge. I still own 3 compasses and the sectional charts for most of Eastern MA (as well as the ocean charts from my seafaring days).
GPS is great for roads with a base map, but most of them don't work worth a damn under a forest canopy. Compasses still do.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 21:08:53
We won't be getting into town till Monday Morn... the big momma gig is out for us.
you g/f should hang with Chris... he isn't looking to forward to the crowds either.
Bob and I are gonna wear 1970-80 outfits on Tuesday night and try to crash a few balls...
Raine on 12/11/2008 21:08:53
Quote by m-hadley:
Heya Raine, Mondo, BobR, Mala, & any other 4Fers who are heading to DC for the Inauguration,
Did you all notice that Momma's gig is Sunday night (and $75.00 for a chance to actually meet her :P). We are going to have to drive like the wind to make it to DC by 4:00 Sunday afternoon. When is everybody else arriving in DC? We also have tickets to the American Indian Inaugural Ball (Tuesday night/$110/each). I'm just wondering. Have I mentioned that my girlfriend is scared in crowds? I'm wondering if this is such a great idea... Just thinking outloud now.
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
the big momma gig is out for us. you g/f should hang with Chris... he isn't looking to forward to the crowds either.
Bob and I are gonna wear 1970-80 outfits on Tuesday night and try to crash a few balls...
Comment by TriSec on 12/11/2008 21:26:56
TriSec on 12/11/2008 21:26:56
Alright gang, I'm heading out. I'm at the store tonight, so see everyone in the am.
:sprint:
:sprint:
Comment by livingonli on 12/11/2008 21:28:14
Someone needs to work on that.
livingonli on 12/11/2008 21:28:14
Quote by Mondobubba:
Why isn't Fred Phelps in The Dickipedia? I men he is huge self-aggrandizing, swaggering dick of the first order.
Someone needs to work on that.
Comment by livingonli on 12/11/2008 21:33:52
livingonli on 12/11/2008 21:33:52
A third day in a row of rain and I'm depressed again. :(
Comment by Random on 12/11/2008 21:42:07
Well, that's kind of my point is that Unions should also think about restructuring themselves, some have, just like some auto industries have, but all of them need to do it. It shouldn't be this protection of jobs, but a protection of quality work. Union leaders view modernization as lost jobs, instead of new ones, since almost always another job to take care of the machines, which can be highly specified, and critical work.
If Unions would also spend the time to get it's blue collar workers through college, or a degree program, they can help lift those workers off the conveyor belt and into better living conditions.
Random on 12/11/2008 21:42:07
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Random:Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Here we are.. I can't believe this idiot actually said something like this.
If you have a chance, and a strong stomach, jump on that NPR link I have in there and listen to the entire interview.
barnacles?... did he mean "albatross"?
asshat.
I actually responded to your post yesterday (this morning...whatever) scoop.
I did see that actually.. I agree with you in regards to teacher merit pay, and partly on modernization. Sure jobs are going to be lost due to technology. But I disagree with the idea that organized labor has not made efforts to modernize the movement. In particular, the NEA & UAW has bent over backwards to concede wage and pension increases, and have taken on some financial responsibility on paying health care premiums. (Note - the NEA in Rhode Island is a HUGE pain in the ass and usually concedes nothing without being forced into arbitration.. I'll admit that much)
As far as corruption in unions goes, it exists. Just like corruption in public office and corporate boardrooms exists. Greed is an unfortunate human condition and can strike us all when in any position of power. In fact corruption in labor is probably more amplified, since it's usually both more heinous and the corporate bosses don't mind spreading the word around in the media.
Well, that's kind of my point is that Unions should also think about restructuring themselves, some have, just like some auto industries have, but all of them need to do it. It shouldn't be this protection of jobs, but a protection of quality work. Union leaders view modernization as lost jobs, instead of new ones, since almost always another job to take care of the machines, which can be highly specified, and critical work.
If Unions would also spend the time to get it's blue collar workers through college, or a degree program, they can help lift those workers off the conveyor belt and into better living conditions.
Comment by Random on 12/11/2008 21:43:49
because you told me to remind you.
Random on 12/11/2008 21:43:49
Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Good Morning Random! how are you doing today?
better...
That is good to hear.
:)
because you told me to remind you.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 21:55:44
Raine on 12/11/2008 21:55:44
Some BIG news that is going under the Radar.
(PDF)
Yeah... check out the names of who released the report... That (other) One.
Bipartisan Report: Rumsfeld Responsible for Detainee Abuse
Senate Committee Finds Officials Made Decisions That Led to Offenses Against Prisoners
A bipartisan Senate report released today says that former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and other top Bush administration officials are directly responsible for abuses of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and charges that decisions by those officials led to serious offenses against prisoners in Iraq and elsewhere.
The Senate Armed Services Committee report accuses Rumsfeld and his deputies of being the principal architects of the plan to use harsh interrogation techniques on captured fighters and terrorism suspects, rejecting the Bush administration's contention that the policies originated lower down the command chain.
"The abuse of detainees in U.S. custody cannot simply be attributed to the actions of 'a few bad apples' acting on their own," the panel concludes. "The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create the appearance of their legality, and authorized their use against detainees."
The report, released by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and based on a nearly two-year investigation, said that both the policies and resulting controversies tarnished the reputation of the United States and undermined national security. "Those efforts damaged our ability to collect accurate intelligence that could save lives, strengthened the hand of our enemies, and compromised our moral authority," it said.
(PDF)
Yeah... check out the names of who released the report... That (other) One.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 21:56:20
Raine on 12/11/2008 21:56:20
Thanks you Random! :hug:
Comment by Random on 12/11/2008 22:05:18
No problem.
Random on 12/11/2008 22:05:18
Quote by Raine:
Thanks you Random! :hug:
No problem.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 22:21:19
I think these are the only guys that can make comedy out of PE Obama.
Raine on 12/11/2008 22:21:19
I think these are the only guys that can make comedy out of PE Obama.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 22:22:18
Raine on 12/11/2008 22:22:18
and let me tell you... RSU isn't even that funny anymore...:(
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 22:28:53
I think the GPS is the Devil's instrument. One more thing in the car to distract you from the road. You know what the most recent research into people's mutitasking abilities shows? We can't. At best we can do many things at once, all very badly.
Mondobubba on 12/11/2008 22:28:53
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
You, a GPS? Really? There are generations of Scouts spinning it their graves over that Tri. What about a map and compass? Orienteering is becoming a lost art. :wipes froth and spittle from mouth:
You wound me, sir. My father was once merit badge counselor for the Orienteering merit badge. I still own 3 compasses and the sectional charts for most of Eastern MA (as well as the ocean charts from my seafaring days).
GPS is great for roads with a base map, but most of them don't work worth a damn under a forest canopy. Compasses still do.
I think the GPS is the Devil's instrument. One more thing in the car to distract you from the road. You know what the most recent research into people's mutitasking abilities shows? We can't. At best we can do many things at once, all very badly.
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 22:34:14
Raine on 12/11/2008 22:34:14
OOpsie... Fruedian slip Dana?
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 22:41:55
Awesome.
Raine on 12/11/2008 22:41:55
Awesome.
Comment by Random on 12/11/2008 22:47:59
that...seems a little cruel.
Random on 12/11/2008 22:47:59
Quote by Raine:
Awesome.
that...seems a little cruel.
Comment by livingonli on 12/11/2008 22:51:38
livingonli on 12/11/2008 22:51:38
Bank of America is going to slash 35,000 jobs. So, where is that bailout going? Whose pockets are being lined while the average worker is being put out to pasture?
Comment by Raine on 12/11/2008 23:18:55
I am aching to se the bonus;' and the quarterly profit sheets. This is getting insane.
Raine on 12/11/2008 23:18:55
Quote by livingonli:
Bank of America is going to slash 35,000 jobs. So, where is that bailout going? Whose pockets are being lined while the average worker is being put out to pasture?
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/12/2008 01:00:25
Mondobubba on 12/12/2008 01:00:25
On the chiron on Hardball:
Obama & The Blagojovich Scandal. Nice way to link the two, Tweety. Douchebag.
Obama & The Blagojovich Scandal. Nice way to link the two, Tweety. Douchebag.
Comment by Random on 12/12/2008 01:05:04
Hey, the chiron is not Tweety's fault.
The producer is in charge of that kind of thing.
Random on 12/12/2008 01:05:04
Quote by Mondobubba:
On the chiron on Hardball:
Obama & The Blagojovich Scandal. Nice way to link the two, Tweety. Douchebag.
Hey, the chiron is not Tweety's fault.
The producer is in charge of that kind of thing.
Comment by Random on 12/12/2008 01:05:29
Random on 12/12/2008 01:05:29
P.S.
Did you get a chance to read it yet Raine?
Did you get a chance to read it yet Raine?
Comment by livingonli on 12/12/2008 01:09:04
With Democrats like him, who needs Republicans? And he wants to be seriously considered as the candidate to go after Specter?
livingonli on 12/12/2008 01:09:04
Quote by Mondobubba:
On the chiron on Hardball:
Obama & The Blagojovich Scandal. Nice way to link the two, Tweety. Douchebag.
With Democrats like him, who needs Republicans? And he wants to be seriously considered as the candidate to go after Specter?
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 12/12/2008 04:13:13
No, $cott Bora$ is being $cott Bora$. Don't know what else I'd expect. Heard on Boston's WEEI that consensus is Manny will be the last to sign because he doesn't want to go to spring training.
trojanrabbit on 12/12/2008 04:13:13
Quote by Raine:
Boston... take heart...
Manny is just being Manny --
No, $cott Bora$ is being $cott Bora$. Don't know what else I'd expect. Heard on Boston's WEEI that consensus is Manny will be the last to sign because he doesn't want to go to spring training.