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Dante's Inferno
Author: BobR    Date: 02/06/2009 13:39:31

The prison at Guantanamo Bay has been the source of many sleepless nights for those in this country and the rest of the world who value freedom and fairness. It's bad enough that people have been held there for 7 years without a chance to refute the charges against them; no charges have been made. It's bad enough that they are viewed by some as "prisoners of war" when no declaration of war has been made, and there can be no definitive end to our efforts to control terrorism. It's bad enough that this is being done in our name and our only recourse all these years has been our ballot.

No, on top of all this is the common knowledge that it is no better than Abu Ghraib under Saddam Hussein.

Appearing on - of all places - the Daily Show, author Karen Greenberg describes how torture turned Gitmo into a version of Dante's Inferno:
"They're told, 'Look, you don't have to follow the Geneva Conventions'" Greenberg continued, "'but it would be good if you could sort of, you know, be with the spirit of them.' And they look around and they're like, 'What does that mean?'"

"Make this prison Geneva Convention-ish," Stewart suggested.

"It was an 'ish' situation," agreed Greenberg, "and that does not compute for the military. ... Their idea is ... 'We know how to follow rules, that's our job, we're professionals. We don't, you know, improvise when it comes to the law.'"

"When does the word come down," Stewart asked, "that, 'Hey, you know what? We're actually not going to make it even Geneva Convention-ish. That was the honeymoon period. Now, let's make it more Dante's Inferno-ish.'"

Greenberg replied that starting in mid-February 2002, "they bring in a whole other crew" of higher-ranked officers "and it becomes their show. And they're the 'interrogation' military unit, and they take over."

We all remember the justifications, the various apologists trying to claim water-boarding wasn't torture, the memos leaking faster than a rusty rowboat. We remember the euphemistic term "enhanced interrogation techniques" which the previous administration tried to imprint on the mental consciousness of the country with mixed success.

Cheney - like a latter-day Rasputin - is still out there trying to cover his tracks, terrorize the nation, and - in general - justify his bloody past. By now most of you have heard or seen his latest prognostications:
Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed.

In an interview Tuesday with Politico, Cheney unyieldingly defended the Bush administration’s support for the Guantanamo Bay prison and coercive interrogation of terrorism suspects.
[...]
He expressed confidence that files will some day be publicly accessible offering specific evidence that waterboarding and other policies he promoted — over sharp internal dissent from colleagues and harsh public criticism — were directly responsible for averting new Sept. 11-style attacks.

Not content to wait for a historical verdict, Cheney said he is set to plunge into his own memoirs, feeling liberated to describe behind-the-scenes roles over several decades in government now that the “statute of limitations has expired” on many of the most sensitive episodes.

So not only is he unapologetic, he has plans to make money describing the brutal programs he's created over the years. One certainly hopes there's a special ring in Dante's Inferno for Cheney and his ilk; those among us who find a certain satisfaction in poetic justice hope he gets a taste of it before he leaves this earth for good.


 

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Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 13:53:10
Morning, comrades!



Already shaping up to be a lost day....





Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 14:13:56
MOrning :hug:





Chris if you lurking or run by - Cerberus was the dog that guarded the gates of Hades and Charron was the ferryman that escorted souls across the river Styx hence the term to "pay the ferryman"

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 14:21:25
But what about Fek'lehr, guardian of Gre'thor...where the dishonored go when they die?





Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 14:22:21
Morning guys.. :coffee2:



Yeah it's one of those mornings where I just wanted to stay curled up in bed wearing my flannels.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 14:23:46
Quote by TriSec:

But what about Fek'lehr, guardian of Gre'thor...where the dishonored go when they die?



how about Yahweh's Grand Casino and Taco Emporium?

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 14:27:52
off to finish cleaning up, scanning, backing up and doing tediuos other computer things - back in a bit :D

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 14:30:41
No R? New York???!!!??





Whatahya, retahdid?

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 14:33:19
:grumble: everytime I try to login to Facebook my browser locks up.

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 14:35:23
Never mind the "K"s.....what about the fact that their coffee is rank, and the donuts are essentially a ring of frosting?





Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 14:35:47
Good Morning!

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 14:38:07
See now, I'm moderately fluent in Klingon, and what Jim just said is "Your mother rubs chocolate on her boots", which is a blood insult.





Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 14:39:14
Wow, they are really grammar police today... Mondo would be lovin' this!

Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 14:40:34
AAAGGHHH!



Irregardless drives me CRAZY!





Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 14:45:03


B-Box gives a SMACKDOWN to Lindsay Graham!



Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:11:15
Is this the Stephanie Miller show or Noun Talk on NPR?

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 15:11:49
Spring arrives in Boston!



The 18-wheeler that arrived on Friday is the same rig that has transported the Red Sox spring training gear from Fenway Park to Fort Myers, Fla. since 1998. Next year, New England Household Moving & Storage, the firm that conducts the operation, plans to add a new tractor (the front end) to the truck for next year's run.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/06/2009 15:16:47
Good morning, bloggers!!! Excellent post, BobR!!



Maybe the guy with the blow up dolls should check to see if he is allergic to latex? If he is, he might have a rash in an inconvenient place to scratch.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:21:09
Hi Will! how are things in Pheonix?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/06/2009 15:23:41
Quote by Raine:

Hi Will! how are things in Pheonix?




Busy. I have subbed a few days this week, and I had an interview for a long term sub position yesterday. (I should know if I have the position sometime early next week.) I also have a weekend job which is keeping me busy.



Currently, I am waiting for the schools to post positions for the new school year but I think I will have something. I am also taking a night class to help turn my reciprocal teaching certificate to a two year provisional certificate. (I will move up to the next certificate after that.)

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 15:26:14
Quote by Raine:

Is this the Stephanie Miller show or Noun Talk on NPR?








Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 15:29:04
Meh.. I had to open FireFox just to get facecrack to load.



Remind me to tell Microsoft that their products are fookin' QUALITY.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:30:03
That sounds really great for you Will! I am so glad that things are moving in the right direction for you since your move.







Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:31:13
Quote by Scoopster:

Meh.. I had to open FireFox just to get facecrack to load.



Remind me to tell Microsoft that their products are fookin' QUALITY.
I was going to ask you if you were using IE... It locks up a lot for Bob. I think he now uses Google Chrome for the FB.



I use Safari and have no problem with it.



Comment by BobR on 02/06/2009 15:31:54
If anyone is going to be changing jobs soon, here are a few companies that don't do layoffs

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 15:32:29
Good morning everyone. It was a very busy night in the salt mine since I was live most of the evening and had to cut down a delayed Women's Basketball game to 2 hours on the fly. And then I didn't get home until 2 AM so I was pretty pooped.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:34:39
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Is this the Stephanie Miller show or Noun Talk on NPR?








Ahh... good times good times!

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 15:35:18
*grunt*



Well, I'm thinking I can find something more interesting to listen to this morning than the grammar police log....





Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/06/2009 15:36:10
GREAT NEWS!!!!



I just checked my e-mail and I was offered the long-term sub position that I interviewed for yesterday!! So, I accepted!!



Ironically, I still had the course outline with me!!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 15:36:55
Shelagh :D

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 15:37:11
Shelagh on the grammar police pile on.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:38:22
Quote by Will in Phoenix:

GREAT NEWS!!!!



I just checked my e-mail and I was offered the long-term sub position that I interviewed for yesterday!! So, I accepted!!



Ironically, I still had the course outline with me!!
THAT's WONDERFUL!!!!!



:party: :banana::dance: :dance2::dance::banana: :prince::party:



Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 15:38:39
I loved that - saw it on the little bit of Rachel I saw :D

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:38:43
:wub2: I think I love the President when he talks like that!

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 15:38:58
Hmm.. there's some rumbling about that Rush has enlisted his moron listeners to wardial the Senate offices on the stimulus bill.



So if you're trying to call your Senators, keep trying. And don't forget about sending emails or faxes either!

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 15:39:47
Quote by Will in Phoenix:

GREAT NEWS!!!!



I just checked my e-mail and I was offered the long-term sub position that I interviewed for yesterday!! So, I accepted!!



Ironically, I still had the course outline with me!!


Congrats Will!!

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 15:39:49
Quote by Will in Phoenix:

GREAT NEWS!!!!



I just checked my e-mail and I was offered the long-term sub position that I interviewed for yesterday!! So, I accepted!!



Ironically, I still had the course outline with me!!


Great news.





Now if only my job/financial prospects would improve.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:40:14
Quote by Scoopster:

Hmm.. there's some rumbling about that Rush has enlisted his moron listeners to wardial the Senate offices on the stimulus bill.



So if you're trying to call your Senators, keep trying. And don't forget about sending emails or faxes either!
Yeah I have heard that as well. I also heard that for a while on I believe Wednesday, The phone system shut down.







Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 15:41:34
Oh yeah, and you can also call the LOCAL offices for your Senator too.

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 15:41:44
I want a pin so I can puncture Rush.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 15:43:17
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Will in Phoenix:

GREAT NEWS!!!!



I just checked my e-mail and I was offered the long-term sub position that I interviewed for yesterday!! So, I accepted!!



Ironically, I still had the course outline with me!!
THAT's WONDERFUL!!!!!



:party: :banana::dance: :dance2::dance::banana: :prince::party:







WOOHOO!!!



Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:45:06
Quote by Scoopster:

Oh yeah, and you can also call the LOCAL offices for your Senator too.
Thom Hartmann Has been saying this as well.. he also mentioned that if you still send snail mail send it to the local offices because in DC, with all the screening for anthrax and the flaven, it usually takes a few weeks before it hits a reps. Desk.



Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 15:52:41
I love that she used the words "theatrical" and "flamboyant" in reference to Lindsay Graham.





Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:53:54
Lou Dobbs: Not relevant

Comment by BobR on 02/06/2009 15:54:21
I forgot to bring coffee to the office with me this morning, so I am having to drink the skanky office coffee... me ---> >P

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 15:54:23
Quote by starling310:

I love that she used the words "theatrical" and "flamboyant" in reference to Lindsay Graham.





Will you please close that closet door?

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 15:54:43
Quote by starling310:

I love that she used the words "theatrical" and "flamboyant" in reference to Lindsay Graham.



I think she was a tip of the tongue away from calling him a Drama Queen... :lol:



Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 15:55:06
Have to say I did my part to turn people on to how to re-phrase what this thing from Stimulus Package to Job Creation Package on the twitter yesterday :)



Marketing is everything - Thom's right if Dems named things better people would line up for it

Comment by Will in Chicago on 02/06/2009 15:55:46
Quote by livingonli:

I want a pin so I can puncture Rush.




Considering Rush's size, you might need an Imperial Star Destroyer to get that job done!!

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/StarDestroyer.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 15:56:02
I think hookers should be a part of the stimulus package.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:02:11
Quote by wickedpam:

Have to say I did my part to turn people on to how to re-phrase what this thing from Stimulus Package to Job Creation Package on the twitter yesterday :)



Marketing is everything - Thom's right if Dems named things better people would line up for it
I am gonna do that too.



Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 16:05:43
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Have to say I did my part to turn people on to how to re-phrase what this thing from Stimulus Package to Job Creation Package on the twitter yesterday :)



Marketing is everything - Thom's right if Dems named things better people would line up for it
I am gonna do that too.



After all, Republicans would rather see people unemployed.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 16:07:08
Listening to KTLK - man the folks in LA have some issues with rain, and I thought DC drives were crazed by precipitation

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 16:08:43
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Have to say I did my part to turn people on to how to re-phrase what this thing from Stimulus Package to Job Creation Package on the twitter yesterday :)



Marketing is everything - Thom's right if Dems named things better people would line up for it
I am gonna do that too.



After all, Republicans would rather see people unemployed.






saying that is just rheritoric(sp) but if you say they voted against a Jobs Package it holds more weight :)



Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:10:28
Quote by wickedpam:

saying that is just rheritoric(sp) but if you say they voted against a Jobs Package it holds more weight :)





That is right!



Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 16:10:34
Mmm...Funyons!



Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:12:33
Listen if you have headphones on... Otherwise, Not work safe.



Clickety Click

Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 16:14:10
You have to be married to have kids???

Oh dear. . .

I am in big trouble.



Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 16:15:10
I know plenty of married couples who should NOT have children!

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:16:41
Quote by starling310:

You have to be married to have kids???

Oh dear. . .

I am in big trouble.



Yes and I am not doing my womanly duty according to this monstrous woman.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:17:11
Can you feel the woman's rights movement being blast back to the 50's?

Comment by BobR on 02/06/2009 16:18:32
I remember when Mona Charon's columns used to run in our paper and she pissed me off way back then.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:19:03
Man that is the part that STILL kills me. Bristol Palin the unwed knocked up TEENAGER is a different Story...

Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 16:19:31
Quote by Raine:

Can you feel the woman's rights movement being blast back to the 50's?




OMG...this woman is.....is.....I have no words.



Some dude must have done a number on her!



Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 16:20:21
If I have a daughter, I would be proud that she grow up to be like Linda Sanchez.



Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:21:10
I am just as angry hearing it the second time...

Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 16:22:02
I wonder how Mona feels about Gay Adoption.



:rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 16:25:01
Quote by Raine:

I am just as angry hearing it the second time...




which is why I didn't listen the 2nd go round it would just bring about a reoccurance of what i said yesterday

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 16:25:35
Quote by Raine:

Listen if you have headphones on... Otherwise, Not work safe.



Clickety Click


:rofl: fuckin' great!

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:25:57
Quote by starling310:

I wonder how Mona feels about Gay Adoption.



:rofl:


Mona would

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 16:34:50
Frangela :D

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:35:03
Frangela!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 16:35:43
:lol: I'm not the only one who says "swing a dead cat"

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 16:39:39
I have but one question for the posters on this blog.



Why do you hate America?

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:40:46
Quote by Random:

I have but one question for the posters on this blog.



Why do you hate America?


:spit:

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:42:29
What the hell is Matilan Talking about?

Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 16:44:09
I actually would like a PajamaGram.

:shrug:

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 16:53:05
I'm surprised Tri didn't chime in on the whole marriage/having kids discussion.



Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 16:53:06
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk230/RandomObs/poster5318529.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 16:53:32
Quote by Random:

I have but one question for the posters on this blog.



Why do you hate America?






Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:53:32
Keep yapping Sarah -- :yadda:

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:54:14
Did she ever get back to Katie?







Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 16:55:07
So I assume Todd Nailed Sarah after she ran 100 yard dash on the *Track*?

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 16:55:32
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

I have but one question for the posters on this blog.



Why do you hate America?








Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 16:56:15
Sorry...That was bigger than i thought

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 17:10:41
Scoop. Did you ever get back into DK?

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 17:11:27
Quote by Random:

Sorry...That was bigger than i thought


I thought it was kinda cool!

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 17:17:12
Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 17:18:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Sorry...That was bigger than i thought


I thought it was kinda cool!


It is my motto.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 17:21:57
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Listen if you have headphones on... Otherwise, Not work safe.



Clickety Click


:rofl: fuckin' great!




I sense a new audiocon...Bob? Pleasepleaseplease! I promise to feed it and walk and brush it! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese?

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 17:21:57
*twitches*

Who is this idiot on yesterday's Stephanie Miller saying Linda Sanchez is irresponsible?

Comment by wickedpam on 02/06/2009 17:24:12
Quote by Random:

*twitches*

Who is this idiot on yesterday's Stephanie Miller saying Linda Sanchez is irresponsible?






Mona Charon - hypocritical rightwing bitch

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 17:24:33
Quote by Raine:

Scoop. Did you ever get back into DK?


Nope, but I did get some feedback from people I know there as to why it happened. Someone downrated a bunch of my comments for no reason yesterday, so I emailed kos' #2 in charge about it (which is what you're supposed to do). Literally a couple seconds later, some new user uprates everything that got downrated. I didn't put it together at the time, but I think one of those idiots made a sockpuppet and made it look like I was uprating my own comments with a second account, and that triggered the website's autoban. Either that, or it was the dude I was defending because he got banned earlier in the day.



Oh and they also told me that all the idiots I was having 'intense negotiations' with were gloating over my account getting locked.



Seriously, I'm really confounded at the fact that kos lets his website and the flagship website of the progressive blogosphere be ruled by a fucking mob of power-tripping morons.

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 17:26:41
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

*twitches*

Who is this idiot on yesterday's Stephanie Miller saying Linda Sanchez is irresponsible?






Mona Charon - hypocritical rightwing bitch


Mona Charon get a clue...A strong woman, with enough age and wisdom, financial backing, loving other to raise the child is a GOOD rolemodle.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 17:27:55
Quote by Raine:

Wow, they are really grammar police today... Mondo would be lovin' this!






:scans blog: Well yeah, but yanno that sleep thing is very important when is coming on a major strep infection.

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 17:31:34


But do you get to throw things at him?

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 17:32:40
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Scoop. Did you ever get back into DK?


Nope, but I did get some feedback from people I know there as to why it happened. Someone downrated a bunch of my comments for no reason yesterday, so I emailed kos' #2 in charge about it (which is what you're supposed to do). Literally a couple seconds later, some new user uprates everything that got downrated. I didn't put it together at the time, but I think one of those idiots made a sockpuppet and made it look like I was uprating my own comments with a second account, and that triggered the website's autoban. Either that, or it was the dude I was defending because he got banned earlier in the day.



Oh and they also told me that all the idiots I was having 'intense negotiations' with were gloating over my account getting locked.



Seriously, I'm really confounded at the fact that kos lets his website and the flagship website of the progressive blogosphere be ruled by a fucking mob of power-tripping morons.


It looks like the Randi Rhodes message board is not the only place with people on power trips.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 17:32:50
Quote by TriSec:

No R? New York???!!!??





Whatahya, retahdid?






:scan: :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 17:40:55
Quote by livingonli:



But do you get to throw things at him?


http://conservatard.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/walmart_greeter2.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 17:42:24
Microsoft CEO trying to shove Vista down the throats of businesses.



This damn company isn't broken into little tiny pieces like the old AT&T BECAUSE?????

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 17:49:20
Quote by Scoopster:

Microsoft CEO trying to shove Vista down the throats of businesses.



This damn company isn't broken into little tiny pieces like the old AT&T BECAUSE?????


Microsoft has us all by the balls, thats why.



That and fuck you Microsoft. Vista sucks. XP is better...there is a reason Microsoft hasn't changed their OS in eight years.

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 17:53:51
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:



But do you get to throw things at him?


http://conservatard.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/walmart_greeter2.jpg


...

Bush actually made that face...and was photographed making that face...

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 17:57:11
Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

Microsoft CEO trying to shove Vista down the throats of businesses.



This damn company isn't broken into little tiny pieces like the old AT&T BECAUSE?????


Microsoft has us all by the balls, thats why.



That and fuck you Microsoft. Vista sucks. XP is better...there is a reason Microsoft hasn't changed their OS in eight years.


I will say this much - at least the Win7 beta is working pretty solid. It's taken most everything I've thrown at it without a hitch, and the few things I had to work to resolve at least were not being caused by the OS. One piece of very old hardware got rejected, but from what I read that particular part and others like it from other manufacturers are just plain incompatible with Vista/Win7.

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 18:00:52
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

Microsoft CEO trying to shove Vista down the throats of businesses.



This damn company isn't broken into little tiny pieces like the old AT&T BECAUSE?????


Microsoft has us all by the balls, thats why.



That and fuck you Microsoft. Vista sucks. XP is better...there is a reason Microsoft hasn't changed their OS in eight years.


I will say this much - at least the Win7 beta is working pretty solid. It's taken most everything I've thrown at it without a hitch, and the few things I had to work to resolve at least were not being caused by the OS. One piece of very old hardware got rejected, but from what I read that particular part and others like it from other manufacturers are just plain incompatible with Vista/Win7.


No idea what Win7 is

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 18:11:29
Quote by Random:

No idea what Win7 is


It's the new version of Windows, expected for release next year. They actually have a large-scale public beta going on now where you can download it for free and use it for free until at least August (maybe longer if the beta is extended). First time I think that MS has done something like this.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 18:11:43
Okay peeps which is a funnier number, 37 or 42. Discuss.

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 18:16:33
42



Only because i don't get 37

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 18:22:15
Quote by Random:

42



Only because i don't get 37






"Clerks," Random. That is why 37 is so friggin funny.

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 18:28:38
One thing Random does like about talking about comps here(instead of at college where) Is no one is screaming about how Open Source (linux) is sooo much better...

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 18:32:38
*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 18:37:39
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

42



Only because i don't get 37






"Clerks," Random. That is why 37 is so friggin funny.


Oh, from Clerks?

Pft...42 beats it out.

37 is funny because of what it's attached two.

42 is funny because it has meaning.

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 18:45:21
Quote by Scoopster:

*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*


Random doesn't disagree.

But lets face it...Linux will never be the top OS because the mass public would never use a command line.



That and my point was the guy screams (which is his normal talking voice...*shudders) about OPEN SOURCE!!! and...OPEN SOURCE!!!

and...OPEN SOURCE!!!



Random now hates Open Source.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 18:46:13
Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 18:50:32
Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*


Random doesn't disagree.

But lets face it...Linux will never be the top OS because the mass public would never use a command line.



That and my point was the guy screams (which is his normal talking voice...*shudders) about OPEN SOURCE!!! and...OPEN SOURCE!!!

and...OPEN SOURCE!!!



Random now hates Open Source.




I've got a Linux box in the other room, command line, schcommand line. It has a spiffy x-windows interface that works very well, thank you. For many a year DOS was the biggest OS in the biz and it is a crappy command line interface.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 18:52:24






Oh abuse of Little Big-head. I can get behind it.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 18:58:41
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*


Random doesn't disagree.

But lets face it...Linux will never be the top OS because the mass public would never use a command line.



That and my point was the guy screams (which is his normal talking voice...*shudders) about OPEN SOURCE!!! and...OPEN SOURCE!!!

and...OPEN SOURCE!!!



Random now hates Open Source.




I've got a Linux box in the other room, command line, schcommand line. It has a spiffy x-windows interface that works very well, thank you. For many a year DOS was the biggest OS in the biz and it is a crappy command line interface.


I was about to say.. Linux moved into the GUI age a while back.



And tbh, I still use the command line in Windows :lol:

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 19:00:24
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*


Random doesn't disagree.

But lets face it...Linux will never be the top OS because the mass public would never use a command line.



That and my point was the guy screams (which is his normal talking voice...*shudders) about OPEN SOURCE!!! and...OPEN SOURCE!!!

and...OPEN SOURCE!!!



Random now hates Open Source.




I've got a Linux box in the other room, command line, schcommand line. It has a spiffy x-windows interface that works very well, thank you. For many a year DOS was the biggest OS in the biz and it is a crappy command line interface.




Hm...so when did DOS stop being so big...was that with the introduction of Windows and a GUI system.



Well, even with your x-windows Linux will never get big. Sorry...give up that dream.



Any way, I'm bitching about the guy...who yells...and yells...and I can't hear anymore.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 19:06:49
DOS was still fairly mainstream until Windows 95 was released, and even then it was still a usable platform at least until Windows 98 came out.



Edit: Now that I think about it, the real death of DOS was 32-bit operating systems like Windows NT/2000. They used a modified version IBM's OS/2 (which was basically a 16/32-bit version of DOS with a GUI on top of it) as the underpinnings of NT, and XP expanded on that by including innovations that were built into the various flavors of Linux.

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 19:16:04
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*


Random doesn't disagree.

But lets face it...Linux will never be the top OS because the mass public would never use a command line.



That and my point was the guy screams (which is his normal talking voice...*shudders) about OPEN SOURCE!!! and...OPEN SOURCE!!!

and...OPEN SOURCE!!!



Random now hates Open Source.




I've got a Linux box in the other room, command line, schcommand line. It has a spiffy x-windows interface that works very well, thank you. For many a year DOS was the biggest OS in the biz and it is a crappy command line interface.


I was about to say.. Linux moved into the GUI age a while back.



And tbh, I still use the command line in Windows :lol:


...I don't think I need to explain that you aren't the normal public Scoop. You using the Command Line isn't the same as normal people.



P.S. Linux is still based on a command line interface, even with a bit of a GUI part.



Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 19:20:43
Quote by Scoopster:

DOS was still fairly mainstream until Windows 95 was released, and even then it was still a usable platform at least until Windows 98 came out.



Edit: Now that I think about it, the real death of DOS was 32-bit operating systems like Windows NT/2000. They used a modified version IBM's OS/2 (which was basically a 16/32-bit version of DOS with a GUI on top of it) as the underpinnings of NT, and XP expanded on that by including innovations that were built into the various flavors of Linux.




Hm...well, I still used my father's Commadore 64 from time to time, doesn't mean that the majority of the public still uses it. or even continued to use it once more powerful, easier machines were introduced.

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 19:26:47
Will anyone be nostalgic for BASIC?

Comment by Random on 02/06/2009 19:37:23
No Liv...No one will EVER be nostalgic for BASIC

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 19:47:13


At this point the only thing I can say to the Republicans is to go f themselves. All they care about are their moneymakers in the top 1%.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 19:47:51
Oh and once you get past the food stamps and the head start... please note... they are trying to INCREASE DEFENSE SPENDING!







Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 19:48:37
Quote by livingonli:



At this point the only thing I can say to the Republicans is to go f themselves. All they care about are their moneymakers in the top 1%.


IT's the GOP and the Blue Dog Dems.



FUCKERS.

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 19:52:52
The Blue Dems need to be purged with the Rethuglicans. Mike Malloy always said that the Blue Dogs/DLC should be the next on the list after the Republicans have been ousted.

Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 20:05:32
Time to head off to the salt mine.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 20:08:05
Hmm.. What is going on with Randi? She is out again?

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 20:18:05


Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 20:20:44
OH GOOD GOD they're talking about Rosa DeLauro for HHS Secretary now.



That woman doesn't give a SHIT about nursing homes based on her voting record.. what the hell makes them think she'd be a good choice to oversee this nation's healthcare on ANY level?!

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 20:27:02
Quote by Scoopster:

OH GOOD GOD they're talking about Rosa DeLauro for HHS Secretary now.



That woman doesn't give a SHIT about nursing homes based on her voting record.. what the hell makes them think she'd be a good choice to oversee this nation's healthcare on ANY level?!
Who is talking about this? The frigging retarted pundits???



:angry: I am really getting sick of this BULLSHITE!



Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 20:30:28
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

OH GOOD GOD they're talking about Rosa DeLauro for HHS Secretary now.



That woman doesn't give a SHIT about nursing homes based on her voting record.. what the hell makes them think she'd be a good choice to oversee this nation's healthcare on ANY level?!
Who is talking about this? The frigging retarted pundits???



:angry: I am really getting sick of this BULLSHITE!


http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/health2008dr.cfm?DR_ID=56841



Actually it looks like they're quoting the Hartford Courant, which means my mom's gonna see this and flip out.

Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 20:41:02
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

OH GOOD GOD they're talking about Rosa DeLauro for HHS Secretary now.



That woman doesn't give a SHIT about nursing homes based on her voting record.. what the hell makes them think she'd be a good choice to oversee this nation's healthcare on ANY level?!
Who is talking about this? The frigging retarted pundits???



:angry: I am really getting sick of this BULLSHITE!


http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/health2008dr.cfm?DR_ID=56841



Actually it looks like they're quoting the Hartford Courant, which means my mom's gonna see this and flip out.


You know, that is the second time today I read about NEWT.



For the love of god, can this shit stop? PLEASE???? PLEASE????

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 20:42:48
Time for a quick quiz.....



Which sucks more...



This:



http://drtomsvac.com/images/vacuum.gif




or this:



http://www.stevekhan.com/celtics_logo.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 02/06/2009 20:57:14
Sure as hell ain't the Green machine..

Comment by TriSec on 02/06/2009 21:22:05
So long folks! Off wrangling Cub Scouts tonight.....



http://kismif.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/blue-gold-old-patch.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 21:27:48
Quote by Raine:

Hmm.. What is going on with Randi? She is out again?




Yeah. What's the dilly?

Nancy Skinner is a'ight...but, she laughs too much.



Comment by Raine on 02/06/2009 21:50:33
I like Skinner, fer sherz... But I need a little of that Rhodes anger... there I said it.







Comment by starling310 on 02/06/2009 21:50:47
http://www.anarchtee.com/SupportOurTroops.gif




Pfft. No sh*t.



Comment by livingonli on 02/06/2009 21:58:30
Quote by TriSec:

Time for a quick quiz.....



Which sucks more...



This:



http://drtomsvac.com/images/vacuum.gif




or this:



http://www.stevekhan.com/celtics_logo.jpg


Sorry Tri, but the Knicks suck more than both.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/06/2009 22:03:33
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*


Random doesn't disagree.

But lets face it...Linux will never be the top OS because the mass public would never use a command line.



That and my point was the guy screams (which is his normal talking voice...*shudders) about OPEN SOURCE!!! and...OPEN SOURCE!!!

and...OPEN SOURCE!!!



Random now hates Open Source.




I've got a Linux box in the other room, command line, schcommand line. It has a spiffy x-windows interface that works very well, thank you. For many a year DOS was the biggest OS in the biz and it is a crappy command line interface.




Hm...so when did DOS stop being so big...was that with the introduction of Windows and a GUI system.



Well, even with your x-windows Linux will never get big. Sorry...give up that dream.



Any way, I'm bitching about the guy...who yells...and yells...and I can't hear anymore.




Random, did I start yelling in your ear about open source? No, I just pointed out that you don't need to do things from a command line in Linux if you don't want to. As far as Linux not getting "big" there is a huge installed base of it in things you aren't even thinking about. Like PBX systems, my DVD player runs on Linux. The reason I know it does is pretty obvious, when it loads a DVD I will get the "root" on the LCD display. Root is the uber directory in a Linux/Unix OS. Its out there Random everywhere, you just don't know about.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/07/2009 00:03:24
Okay.. I just heard two wild rumors in the prog radio world.....



One is that Randi got the Axe from Nova M. The other is Thom Hartmann is moving to Jones Radio.

Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2009 00:13:38
Actually, the Thom Hartmann rumor is true. He is jumping over to Jones in March and leaving Air America.

Comment by livingonli on 02/07/2009 02:32:00
What happened? Das blog was down but seems to be back now.



Devils up 5-1 over Atlanta in Atlanta tonight. I am working the Devils telecast tonight.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 02/07/2009 02:47:39
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

*whispers that Linux is better than Windows, but let's face it the good games don't usually work under Ubuntu*


Random doesn't disagree.

But lets face it...Linux will never be the top OS because the mass public would never use a command line.



That and my point was the guy screams (which is his normal talking voice...*shudders) about OPEN SOURCE!!! and...OPEN SOURCE!!!

and...OPEN SOURCE!!!



Random now hates Open Source.




I've got a Linux box in the other room, command line, schcommand line. It has a spiffy x-windows interface that works very well, thank you. For many a year DOS was the biggest OS in the biz and it is a crappy command line interface.




Hm...so when did DOS stop being so big...was that with the introduction of Windows and a GUI system.



Well, even with your x-windows Linux will never get big. Sorry...give up that dream.



Any way, I'm bitching about the guy...who yells...and yells...and I can't hear anymore.




Random, did I start yelling in your ear about open source? No, I just pointed out that you don't need to do things from a command line in Linux if you don't want to. As far as Linux not getting "big" there is a huge installed base of it in things you aren't even thinking about. Like PBX systems, my DVD player runs on Linux. The reason I know it does is pretty obvious, when it loads a DVD I will get the "root" on the LCD display. Root is the uber directory in a Linux/Unix OS. Its out there Random everywhere, you just don't know about.


TiVos run Linux. So does the spectrum analyzer I use at work almost every day. It's very disconcerting to see an oscilloscope with a Windows XP screen on boot up.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/07/2009 03:03:09
Watching the Republican Q_Q fest on the c-span mosheen.. McCain is a fuckin' moron i swear to GOD.

Comment by clintster on 02/07/2009 04:32:30
Comment by BobR on 02/07/2009 05:07:11
Quote by Scoopster:

Watching the Republican Q_Q fest on the c-span mosheen.. McCain is a fuckin' moron i swear to GOD.


Rachel took all those morons to task tonight. She called "bullhockey" on them, and explained in easy to understand terms (with statistics) why the Republicans are so wrong on this one.



It should be required viewing for the entire country.