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Author: TriSec    Date: 03/03/2009 11:58:22

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,176th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from Iraq and Afghanistan, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4254
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4115
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3793
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3396
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 25

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 660
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 431
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 446

We find this morning's cost of war has reached yet another milestone, as we're already quickly past 600 billion.

$ 601, 593, 100, 000.00


One could only wonder how things would be if that money had gone back into the American economy over the past 6 years.



Turning to our friends at IAVA....they had an interesting point of view on Obama's plan to bring the troops home by August 2010. Getting everyone home isn't as easy as starting an aerial tramway with C-5 Galaxies....once the troops get back to these shores, then what?


IAVA's Director of Government Affairs Todd Bowers spoke with WTTG- Fox 5 over the weekend about President Obama's announcement of a troop drawdown in Iraq, emphasizing the need to ensure servicemembers have the proper mental health screening, education benefits and job skills training for the transition home. Check-out his interview...





Lastly this morning....even as the President starts to work out how to get the troops home, there are still troops being called back and prepped to go over. This never-ending cycle continues to disrupt families and destroy lives. Often overlooked are the children of our soldiers. Here's one family's tale.


DAVIDSON, N.C.—When Lisa Pagan reports for duty Sunday, four long years after she was honorably discharged from the Army, she'll arrive with more than her old uniform. She's bringing her kids, too.

"I have to bring them with me," she said. "I don't have a choice."

Pagan is among thousands of former service members who have left active duty since the Sept. 11 attacks, only to later receive orders to return to service. They're not in training, they're not getting a Defense Department salary, but as long as they have time left on their original enlistment contracts, they're on "individual ready reserve" status -- eligible to be recalled at any time.

Soldiers can appeal, and some have won permission to remain in civilian life. Pagan filed several appeals, arguing that because her husband travels for business, no one else can take care of her kids. All were rejected, leaving Pagan with what she says is a choice between deploying to Iraq and abandoning her family, or refusing her orders and potentially facing charges.

Then she hit on the idea of showing up Sunday at Fort Benning, Ga., with her children in tow.

"I guess they'll have to contact the highest person at the base, and they'll have to decide from there what to do," Pagan said. "I either report and bring the children with me or don't report and face dishonorable discharge and possibly being arrested. I guess I'll just have to make my case while I'm there."

Master Sgt. Keith O'Donnell, an Army spokesman in St. Louis, said the commander at Fort Benning will decide how to handle the situation.

"The Army tries to look at the whole picture and they definitely don't want to do anything that jeopardizes the family or jeopardizes the children," O'Donnell said. "At the same time, these are individuals who made obligations and commitments to the country."

Of the 25,000 individual ready reserve troops recalled since September 2001, more than 7,500 have been granted deferments or exemptions, O'Donnell said. About 1,000 have failed to report. O'Donnell most of those cases are still under investigation, while 360 soldiers have been separated from the Army either through "other than honorable" discharges or general discharges.

He said Pagan isn't likely to face charges, since none of the individual ready reserve soldiers who have failed to report faced a court-martial.

Pagan, who grew up near Camden, N.J., was working in a department store when she made her commitment in September 2002. She learned how to drive a truck, and met Travis while stationed in Hawaii. She had her first child while in uniform, and they left the service in 2005 when their enlistments were up.

She always knew there was a chance she could be recalled, so she buried the thought in the back of her mind.

"When I enlisted, they said almost nobody gets called back when you're in the IRR," she said.

The young family settled outside of Charlotte in the college town of Davidson, where Travis landed a job as a salesman. It required lots of travel, but that was OK -- Pagan enjoyed her life as a stay-at-home mom to their son Eric and a daughter named Elizabeth.

She opened a child-care center in her home, and started taking classes at nearby Fayetteville State.

The orders to return to active duty arrived in December 2007. She told the Army there was no one to take care of her children: Her husband spent most of his time on the road, and they believe quitting his job is a sure path to bankruptcy and foreclosure. Her parents live in New Jersey and her husband's parents live in Texas. Neither are able to help out. The Army wasn't persuaded.

Pagan hired attorney Mark Waple, who filed another appeal, which included a letter from Travis Pagan's employer that said bluntly: "In order for Travis to remain an employee, he will be required to travel." In December 2008, her appeal was again rejected.

"It's the obligation of commanders to make certain that service members have a valid family care plan and that clearly has not happened in Lisa's case," Waple said.

Tom Tarantino, a policy associate with the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, a nonprofit group that helps veterans, said the Army has taken a hard line on many of these cases.

"Usually the only way that someone can get out of the deployment or get out of the military due to a family hardship is if they get into a situation where the kids will be put into foster care," Tarantino said.

"That's how serious it has to be, and I'm sure what the military is telling her -- and I'm not saying that this is exactly the right answer -- but the fact that it is inconvenient for her husband's job is not the military's problem. It's very harsh."




 

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Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 13:26:11
First? Good morning.



I will be watching Ms. Pagen's story -- It is just heartbreaking that those kids may end up in Foster care.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2009 13:29:19
Morning :hug:

Comment by BobR on 03/03/2009 13:41:20
morning.



I head into the office this morning to clean out my cubicle and have my exit interview.



yay.



Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2009 14:01:34
Quote by BobR:

morning.



I head into the office this morning to clean out my cubicle and have my exit interview.



yay.





I hope you say soumething about the manner inwhich you received your notice. What that manager did was cowardly. Serious, if your gonna lay someone off then at least give them the respect they deserve.



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 14:10:21
Quote by wickedpam:

I hope you say soumething about the manner inwhich you received your notice. What that manager did was cowardly. Serious, if your gonna lay someone off then at least give them the respect they deserve.



Amen to that, Mala.

Comment by TriSec on 03/03/2009 14:11:00
Quote by BobR:

morning.



I head into the office this morning to clean out my cubicle and have my exit interview.



yay.





At least they let you do that. I was escorted out in shame; they shipped my belongings to me.





Comment by TriSec on 03/03/2009 14:14:02
I've been tempted to send an anonymous "whistle-blower" letter to the director of the department. There's so much going wrong there, and I'm certain the manager is the cause.





Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2009 14:18:08
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by BobR:

morning.



I head into the office this morning to clean out my cubicle and have my exit interview.



yay.





At least they let you do that. I was escorted out in shame; they shipped my belongings to me.









Geez, that's just wrong on so many levels too.



Comment by TriSec on 03/03/2009 14:25:11
Hmm....I just got another sales job lead. Apparently being a longtime Customer Service dude has some transferrable skills after all....





Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 14:26:47
Wow. I am just amazed at the fear that they have regarding Rush.

Comment by Random on 03/03/2009 14:31:23
Hm...it is now no longer in doubt. Fat Gas Bag is in charge of the Republican party

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 14:39:08
Hey Random! Good Morning!

Comment by starling310 on 03/03/2009 14:47:44
Quote by BobR:

morning.



I head into the office this morning to clean out my cubicle and have my exit interview.



yay.





Ummm....what the hell did I miss?



Comment by Random on 03/03/2009 14:49:38
Quote by Raine:

Hey Random! Good Morning!


Mornin Raine.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2009 14:51:35
Morning guys! :hug:

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/03/2009 14:56:09
Morning all.



One could only wonder how things would be if that money had gone back into the American economy over the past 6 years.




Oh Tri..... you hit the nail on the head here. Damn. That's a load of money that could be spent on schools, building our infrastructure, not to mention HEALTH CARE!!. *sigh*



Velveeta's wife is not too good. Someone has broken her!! :cry:



And to top it off her iBook finally died and I must get her a new (refurbished) MacBook so she can be online. With her being so down, her computer has been an important communication tool.



And my friend BobR has to clean his cubicle........ (picturing Dilbert now). :cry:



Anyway....... those are my complaints today.......... back to the fun. I'll suck it up.













Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2009 14:59:04
Oasis banned from performing in China..



Well then they don't know what they're missing. Not to mention, nice segue!





Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2009 15:03:21
Nebraska man put 6 mo. old kitten INSIDE his bong and smoked pot WHILE IT WAS IN THERE.



Okay now this is just wrong. Not to mention it'll be used as an excuse to keep weed illegal.

Comment by starling310 on 03/03/2009 15:06:20
Quote by velveeta jones:



Velveeta's wife is not too good. Someone has broken her!! :cry:



And to top it off her iBook finally died and I must get her a new (refurbished) MacBook so she can be online. With her being so down, her computer has been an important communication tool.



And my friend BobR has to clean his cubicle........ (picturing Dilbert now). :cry:











:: contagious cry a la crying baby airlines :: ------> :cry:



Comment by velveeta jones on 03/03/2009 15:08:32
Sorry Starling...... didn't mean to spread the angst!

Comment by starling310 on 03/03/2009 15:11:29
Quote by velveeta jones:

Sorry Starling...... didn't mean to spread the angst!




No problem. It's like when babies cry in solidarity with one another.

What happened to Bobber?

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:13:01
I just left Bob a message on his phone... told him to remember to keep the red stapler... :P

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:14:37
Quote by starling310:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Sorry Starling...... didn't mean to spread the angst!




No problem. It's like when babies cry in solidarity with one another.

What happened to Bobber?


Bobber had one door closed this week...



Sunday, on the way home from our Fabulous NYC trek, his boss called... he has been laid off.

Comment by starling310 on 03/03/2009 15:16:41
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Sorry Starling...... didn't mean to spread the angst!




No problem. It's like when babies cry in solidarity with one another.

What happened to Bobber?


Bobber had one door closed this week...



Sunday, on the way home from our Fabulous NYC trek, his boss called... he has been laid off.




God D*mn B*tch A** M*ther F*ckin' Sh*t!!!







-----> <------

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:16:58
Quote by velveeta jones:

Velveeta's wife is not too good. Someone has broken her!! :cry:



And to top it off her iBook finally died and I must get her a new (refurbished) MacBook so she can be online. With her being so down, her computer has been an important communication tool.



And my friend BobR has to clean his cubicle........ (picturing Dilbert now). :cry:



Anyway....... those are my complaints today.......... back to the fun. I'll suck it up.



I will keep an eye peeled for good deals. I know how important it is to have a computer these days, especially for Auntie. :hug:



We will get thru this! ALL OF US!

Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2009 15:19:17
:hug:'s all around!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:20:10
Quote by starling310:



God D*mn B*tch A** M*ther F*ckin' Sh*t!!!







-----> <------ :nerd:
What burns my bunch is that they did it over the phone, on a Sunday WHILE he was on vacation.



His boss said he didn't know how long he was going to be away -- even thos the BOSS signed off on the vacation



Fuckers.



But Bob keeps saying it doesn't pay to dwell, I guess he is right. I just hate how they treated him.



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:21:47
-- And as I alluded to yesterday in the blog, we are fortunate in that we can go wherever a job presents itself. This could be a great thing for us. We had a five year plan, it just may be that it is moved up. you have to try to look at the bright side of these things.

Comment by Random on 03/03/2009 15:22:43
hm...

Well...good for you Scott...I do wonder what the point of his call was...

Comment by starling310 on 03/03/2009 15:25:54
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:



God D*mn B*tch A** M*ther F*ckin' Sh*t!!!







-----> <------ :nerd:
What burns my bunch is that they did it over the phone, on a Sunday WHILE he was on vacation.



His boss said he didn't know how long he was going to be away -- even thos the BOSS signed off on the vacation



Fuckers.



But Bob keeps saying it doesn't pay to dwell, I guess he is right. I just hate how they treated him.





That is really crappy! You guys have each other and that makes a HUGE difference!



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:28:33
Is this Scott again?

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:29:52
Quote by starling310:

That is really crappy! You guys have each other and that makes a HUGE difference!


And we have an incredible network of friends. It makes all the difference in the world.

Comment by Random on 03/03/2009 15:30:22
Scott was back.



Why does he keep calling?

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/03/2009 15:30:52
Quote by Raine:

-- And as I alluded to yesterday in the blog, we are fortunate in that we can go wherever a job presents itself. This could be a great thing for us. We had a five year plan, it just may be that it is moved up. you have to try to look at the bright side of these things.




They are hiring where Velveeta lives, btw. Big ad on the teevee this am about a company that does ..... telemarketing? or something similar and hiring Customer Service people. I would assume they need tech guys/gals as well.



And...... there's a house on the market 3 houses down from me! ;)



Comment by starling310 on 03/03/2009 15:41:37
OMG you guys! I had a sex dream about Michelle Obama!



Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2009 15:41:52
I would say come up to my area 'cuz I don't really have too many friends here in RI, but it's quiet possibly the shittiest job environment in the country right now (aside from say.. Michigan).

Comment by livingonli on 03/03/2009 15:46:04
Good morning everyone. :coffee2:



Can Scott just go away already? Do we need to be "entertained" by his neo-Nazi screeds?

Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2009 15:50:49
Quote by Raine:

-- And as I alluded to yesterday in the blog, we are fortunate in that we can go wherever a job presents itself. This could be a great thing for us. We had a five year plan, it just may be that it is moved up. you have to try to look at the bright side of these things.






sooooo - DC might be an area ya'll would consider????? *plots ways to have friends move closer *

Comment by livingonli on 03/03/2009 15:53:39
Quote by TriSec:

I've been tempted to send an anonymous "whistle-blower" letter to the director of the department. There's so much going wrong there, and I'm certain the manager is the cause.





That might not be such a bad idea.

Comment by livingonli on 03/03/2009 15:54:35
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

-- And as I alluded to yesterday in the blog, we are fortunate in that we can go wherever a job presents itself. This could be a great thing for us. We had a five year plan, it just may be that it is moved up. you have to try to look at the bright side of these things.






sooooo - DC might be an area ya'll would consider????? *plots ways to have friends move closer *


How much are apartments renting for in the DC area these days?

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:56:25
Comment by velveeta jones on 03/03/2009 15:58:39
Auntie will soon (in about 4 days) be able to join you online........ refurbished MacBook is on the way for her. :clap:



And, we'll be dining on rice and beans for quite awhile. :kickcan:

Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2009 15:58:46
Quote by Raine:

Ewww?????


Pardon me for sayin' this, but she kinda looks like Bill Clinton's type :lol:

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:58:48
Quote by wickedpam:

sooooo - DC might be an area ya'll would consider????? *plots ways to have friends move closer *
It's on the list of possibilities, actually.



We want to stay on the east coast, that is pretty much our criteria. (and hopefully a progressive area.)







Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 15:59:14
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

Ewww?????


Pardon me for sayin' this, but she kinda looks like Bill Clinton's type :lol:


:spit:

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 16:00:18
Quote by velveeta jones:

Auntie will soon (in about 4 days) be able to join you online........ refurbished MacBook is on the way for her. :clap:



And, we'll be dining on rice and beans for quite awhile. :kickcan:


:clap: for the Mac Book.



:( for the Rice and beans. What happened that made the old one die?

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 16:01:21
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

-- And as I alluded to yesterday in the blog, we are fortunate in that we can go wherever a job presents itself. This could be a great thing for us. We had a five year plan, it just may be that it is moved up. you have to try to look at the bright side of these things.




They are hiring where Velveeta lives, btw. Big ad on the teevee this am about a company that does ..... telemarketing? or something similar and hiring Customer Service people. I would assume they need tech guys/gals as well.



And...... there's a house on the market 3 houses down from me! ;)

I really loved where you lived... Iffin you can find the name of the company, we would surely look into it!



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 16:02:15
Quote by starling310:

OMG you guys! I had a sex dream about Michelle Obama!



Wowser!



I have been having dreams about Obama... I don't think they were sex dreams tho... That is awesome tho! She is hella sexy.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2009 16:03:07
Quote by Random:

Scott was back.



Why does he keep calling?


He is pompous and self important?

Comment by starling310 on 03/03/2009 16:05:25
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

OMG you guys! I had a sex dream about Michelle Obama!



Wowser!



I have been having dreams about Obama... I don't think they were sex dreams tho... That is awesome tho! She is hella sexy.




It wasn't a "graphic" dream, but we were dating or something... there was kissing in the kitchen whilst cooking togther. YIKES! I'm sorry Michelle...